@@bubbajones7053 the beauty of nursing is that no matter your personality, there is a place for everyone. I loved bedside care, but not everyone does. There are many ways to help in healing, not all at the bedside. I love the OR. I came to OR because after talking and educating for 15 years, I wanted unconscious patients. I’m 11 years in the OR and love it still.
I think it's really sad that it's supposedly acceptable to be verbally abused at work in OR. Totally agree with you, why does it have to be that way? It's unnecessary
Depends on the specialty. Ortho and neuro surgeons are known to have aggressive personalities when things dont go their way. Ortho brings in the money so they get made when an inexperienced nurse slows down the case down. Neuro gets mad since mistakes in the room can have a huge impact on the patient. Breast surgeons and podiatrists are super nice though.
Now days it is a thing. But as an older nurse, it’s not that big a deal. I have great self confidence and while they make me mad, they don’t hurt me. The work environment now is to report everything. I’m not saying that’s wrong, or that bad behavior is acceptable. But I am having a hard time crying to HR because a surgeon made a smart remark, or yelled. I’m not that sensitive, so I really don’t notice.
Is it possible making a video on nursing information that you need to know in order to be successful in the OR? What did you carry on from nursing school that you utilize now?
Where I worked, we did moderate sedation or conscious sedation. You must have ACLS. I was the monitor, not the CRNA. I pushed meds, watched the monitors and the patient. My floor experience helped a great deal because I was familiar with the meds the patient was taking, the different disease processes. True story- I went to a room to give the RN monitor a lunch break. The patient had COPD. She had the O2 up to 96%. She said that was the only way she could get the sats over 93%! Obviously she had gone from school straight to the OR. She should have learned about COPD in school, but she definitely would have if she had gone to a medical floor 1st. I always glanced over my patient's h&p. It helped numerous times over the years. You have that advantage too. I loved it. I stayed 16 years. Good luck 👍
@@ccoop3774would you say that, if you’re a new grad going into OR, maybe one helpful thing you can do is try and read up on different diseases and their treatments? And surgical interventions that might be necessary to resolve a problem cause by the condition? I thin that could be a good idea)
Completely agree with you with all! Im in level I trauma. I will be done with my perioperative program in a few months. It’s sad that verbal or bullying from surgeons it’s “normal “ or like you said develop thick skin.
I'm a new grad, newly licensed, and about to begin my OR residency in a level 1 trauma hospital. I am 100% excited and know that this the type of nursing for me. Thanks for your pros & cons on it.
Unfortunately, my charge nurse was also my biggest bully so I felt like I couldn't report anything either. When I finally had the courage to report, they kinda shrugged it off saying "that's just how the OR is"
@@heeeysabrina everyone has a boss and the physicians have a director. Let them know and also the director of nursing if your direct manager is a bully. Go over her and them! These types of people need to be stopped and checked.
Hey there, great video! I've been a bedside maternal-child RN for 3 years. I have gotten a little OR exposure in the L&D OR and LOVE it! I was wondering if there was a way I could only do OB/GYN surgeries (if so, what are some examples)?
She is saying this because you’re constantly monitoring the patient under anesthesia, so maybe you are the one who needs to go over your responsibilities. Yes it’s easier because you have doctors as main treatment person, but you are still responsible for the patient
I work in an outpatient OR and honestly it is so different from bedside nursing to me! I worked on a med surg floor first and to me they are totally different. In the OR you work as a team and it’s less focused on skills and more on safety, communication, medication knowledge, knowledge about positioning and sterile techniques and time management.
Hey so I work in an outpatient OR as a new grad and we work M-F and surgeries typically go from 7am-5pm 5 days a week. We also do not do many emergency surgeries or work on unstable patients. As far as I know if the pt is unstable then they go to the hospital to get their work done. I bet impatient ORs are awesome too but I don’t know much about them. Hope this helps!
If its a teaching hospital expect a crap ton of call, crazy patient turnover and poor staff retention. Absolutely not a joke when they say that this field needs a thick skin but if you push through you will learn a lot.
This may be a dumb question. You mentioned it’s hard to use the bathroom. I have to go to the bathroom like every hour or two. Would that be a huge problem in the OR ???😭😭
Not a dumb question!! That is a very valid question 😂 so you can go to the bathroom in between surgical cases, if they are quick you can go every hour or so. If they are long surgeries that are 2+ hours, depending on staffing, can be hard to get a break. So going before and after a surgery is best!
I’ve heard that anesthesiologists, surgeons, or other OR staff like nurses and all may resort to wearing adult briefs (diapers). -If not able to go to the rest room. Do OR nurses have to stand long periods or they get to sit some?
Hi sabine, im or nurse for 6 month, your vlog realy affected me a lot, I'm suffering for verbally abuse of surgens, i don't want to finish my career like or nurse, wish me luck✨
I'm in my first semester of nursing school and I've been seriously interested in OR nursing! I heard that it's hard to get an OR job as a new grad is that true? I'm also in MD so I was wondering what it was like for you. Thanks!!
I graduate this week and the pandemic actually helped the OR be much more attainable new grads, all the OR RN residency positions I applied for gave me an offer! They're out there you just have to find them to get into it. I also preceptor in the OR for my final semester which helped a ton.
You've only been called in TWICE within two years!? I take at least five or six days of call every month and get called in at least once or twice each month (not counting the busy months like Nov and Dec). We have overnight call 7p-7a and first and second calls for day shifts. We are a 25 room OR. The call is killer - especially for general OR teams. Most surgeon's are assholes- you've just got to get over it and understand that he/she is probably frustrated and feels vulnerable in the moment. For course, this isn't an excuse for rude and agressive behavior- you've just got to become good at calling them out on it without them kicking you out of the room. If you don't it WILL continue.
M B, thank you for sharing this. I am a medsurg person but I am thinking about getting into OR; you mentioned becoming good at calling them out.....would you mind giving a short example of calling them out.
@@lovetoshare1979 Examples: Dr doesn’t want to sign consent form in holding. Instead, he wants to sign in room against policy. Don’t give in. Let him get away with it once he’ll expect it every time. Involve management if you have to. Things like that not only put him at risk, but also yourself. Also, politely correct them when having a “temper tantrum” episode such as “I didn’t appreciate you saying that and I’d like to discuss it later.” Don’t just let it slide but also keep your integrity intact. For the most part, though, surgeons are pretty nice and understanding (at least where I work lol).
OR nursing was my worst experience in nursing. I NEVER knew when I was getting off. My girlfriend left me because she was convinced I was seeing another woman. The OR would add extras cases right before time to get off so I was constantly having to cancel on her.
No. The surgeon is the star of the show. Everyone else plays a supporting role. If you push back during an operation, you're out. They are at their most vulnerable when operating; if something goes wrong, they are liable - which is why they lash out.
Verbal abuse towards nurses is so normalized. Whether it's from doctors or patients I can't stand them. I don't care about excuses that they're busy, stressed or for patients they're sick. There are people who go through the same thing and don't lash out so if someone does it shows personally what a jerk they are.
Less patient care is a major pro for me! I hate bedside 😂
me too! bedside is NOT something I was ever attracted to
@@313pookie313 So why are you a nurse? To get a paycheck?
@@bubbajones7053 the beauty of nursing is that no matter your personality, there is a place for everyone. I loved bedside care, but not everyone does. There are many ways to help in healing, not all at the bedside. I love the OR. I came to OR because after talking and educating for 15 years, I wanted unconscious patients. I’m 11 years in the OR and love it still.
OR gang gang!
@@bubbajones7053 There is nothing wrong with wanting to get paid. Just do the job right and I could careless if your heart is in it or not. In any job
This is the most honest, clear, personable and to the point pro/con nursing video. Thank you!!
I think it's really sad that it's supposedly acceptable to be verbally abused at work in OR. Totally agree with you, why does it have to be that way? It's unnecessary
Ugh this is why I’m scared to go into this. I don’t want to be yelled at, that’s not okay!
Depends on the specialty. Ortho and neuro surgeons are known to have aggressive personalities when things dont go their way. Ortho brings in the money so they get made when an inexperienced nurse slows down the case down. Neuro gets mad since mistakes in the room can have a huge impact on the patient. Breast surgeons and podiatrists are super nice though.
Now days it is a thing. But as an older nurse, it’s not that big a deal. I have great self confidence and while they make me mad, they don’t hurt me. The work environment now is to report everything. I’m not saying that’s wrong, or that bad behavior is acceptable. But I am having a hard time crying to HR because a surgeon made a smart remark, or yelled. I’m not that sensitive, so I really don’t notice.
I'm a OR nurse, i realy becom to dislike my work because of verbally abuse
cuz we live in a toxic society
Thank you for being real especially about the conflicts with surgeons!! Something I have had concerns about being somewhat reserved myself.
About to start as an OR nurse after working medsurg for 2 years, thanks for the tips!
Is it possible making a video on nursing information that you need to know in order to be successful in the OR? What did you carry on from nursing school that you utilize now?
Where I worked, we did moderate sedation or conscious sedation. You must have ACLS. I was the monitor, not the CRNA. I pushed meds, watched the monitors and the patient. My floor experience helped a great deal because I was familiar with the meds the patient was taking, the different disease processes.
True story- I went to a room to give the RN monitor a lunch break. The patient had COPD. She had the O2 up to 96%. She said that was the only way she could get the sats over 93%! Obviously she had gone from school straight to the OR. She should have learned about COPD in school, but she definitely would have if she had gone to a medical floor 1st. I always glanced over my patient's h&p. It helped numerous times over the years. You have that advantage too. I loved it. I stayed 16 years. Good luck 👍
@@ccoop3774would you say that, if you’re a new grad going into OR, maybe one helpful thing you can do is try and read up on different diseases and their treatments? And surgical interventions that might be necessary to resolve a problem cause by the condition? I thin that could be a good idea)
Completely agree with you with all! Im in level I trauma. I will be done with my perioperative program in a few months. It’s sad that verbal or bullying from surgeons it’s “normal “ or like you said develop thick skin.
I'm a new grad, newly licensed, and about to begin my OR residency in a level 1 trauma hospital. I am 100% excited and know that this the type of nursing for me. Thanks for your pros & cons on it.
Why can’t these rude surgeons be held accountable for their abusive behavior?
They are an asset to the facility. If they leave, you lose
I start in the OR as a new grad in a few weeks. Thank you for this video!
I'm thinking of transferring to OR after working as a floor nurse for many years. How do you like it so far?
DO YOU WORK A T A BIG AREA
@@KandyKaneNails sorry they didn’t answer your question 🥹
Im totally wondering for those with bad menstrual cycles, how does it work with such little breaks :/
Endurance ):
Get a menstrual cup, they hold a lot. Pair with a pad
Diva cup
I think I might love OR nursing compared to other nursing specialties.
Yall need to start reporting these abusive doctors....that y they keep doing that...no one does anything
Unfortunately, my charge nurse was also my biggest bully so I felt like I couldn't report anything either. When I finally had the courage to report, they kinda shrugged it off saying "that's just how the OR is"
@@heeeysabrina everyone has a boss and the physicians have a director. Let them know and also the director of nursing if your direct manager is a bully. Go over her and them! These types of people need to be stopped and checked.
Hey there, great video! I've been a bedside maternal-child RN for 3 years. I have gotten a little OR exposure in the L&D OR and LOVE it! I was wondering if there was a way I could only do OB/GYN surgeries (if so, what are some examples)?
Me too same story but been doing it 4 years
OR nursing is NOT critical care. I’ve been an icu and a cvor nurse. OR nursing is legit the easiest job I’ve had.
Right, I don’t know why she kept saying that!
She is saying this because you’re constantly monitoring the patient under anesthesia, so maybe you are the one who needs to go over your responsibilities. Yes it’s easier because you have doctors as main treatment person, but you are still responsible for the patient
@@Margowka1 monitoring in what ways? Hemodynamics? Co2? That’s what people go to crna or residency for. RNs are not responsible for that in the OR.
Other than rude surgeons sounds pretty low stressed compared to the CVICU I came from
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!! My question is: is OR nursing a lot of bedside nursing?
I work in an outpatient OR and honestly it is so different from bedside nursing to me! I worked on a med surg floor first and to me they are totally different. In the OR you work as a team and it’s less focused on skills and more on safety, communication, medication knowledge, knowledge about positioning and sterile techniques and time management.
Not at all!
Just applied for an OR fellowship. Wish me luck! Could you tell us the difference between inpatient and outpatient OR nursing? Thanks for this video!
Wishing you luck! When did you apply for the fellowship? Last semester or a different time?
Hey so I work in an outpatient OR as a new grad and we work M-F and surgeries typically go from 7am-5pm 5 days a week. We also do not do many emergency surgeries or work on unstable patients. As far as I know if the pt is unstable then they go to the hospital to get their work done. I bet impatient ORs are awesome too but I don’t know much about them. Hope this helps!
If its a teaching hospital expect a crap ton of call, crazy patient turnover and poor staff retention. Absolutely not a joke when they say that this field needs a thick skin but if you push through you will learn a lot.
You give off such a good vibe. Thank you.
Do you find a lack of supplies or equipment when you get to the OR these days?
Thank you for this. I’m interested in or nursing
OR RN here! I 100% agree with you on all these lol
What was the pay like as a new grad OR nurse in your area
Love your video! What happens if you're on call and live an hour away from work?
My coworkers would stay at a hotel nearby! 😅
So what if you scream back at th4 surgeon?
My dream job
This may be a dumb question. You mentioned it’s hard to use the bathroom. I have to go to the bathroom like every hour or two. Would that be a huge problem in the OR ???😭😭
Not a dumb question!! That is a very valid question 😂 so you can go to the bathroom in between surgical cases, if they are quick you can go every hour or so. If they are long surgeries that are 2+ hours, depending on staffing, can be hard to get a break. So going before and after a surgery is best!
Thank you !! How long are your surgical cases usually?
I’ve heard that anesthesiologists, surgeons, or other OR staff like nurses and all may resort to wearing adult briefs (diapers). -If not able to go to the rest room. Do OR nurses have to stand long periods or they get to sit some?
@@penandpencilplow that actually makes sense, I always wondered how they do surgeries for 6 hrs or more
I dislike OR nursing!
Is surgical technician and operations nurse the same
Some strong opinions on this one!. Thanks for a great video
Hi sabine, im or nurse for 6 month, your vlog realy affected me a lot, I'm suffering for verbally abuse of surgens, i don't want to finish my career like or nurse, wish me luck✨
Awww 💔 how’s it been going for you lately?
The feeling is very MUTUAL.
HELLO! OR NURSE FROM THE PHILIPPINES ❤️
Do you recommend going into OR nursing as a new grad?
It depends what your future goals are. You do lose some bedside nursing skills, but more in perioperative skills.
The toxic environment is why I want to leave soon. I’ll travel for a bit then find something else
Are you still on the O.R.?
Yes I am but in an outpatient setting 😊
I have OCD. I think I should be fine 👀👀👀😅
I'm in my first semester of nursing school and I've been seriously interested in OR nursing! I heard that it's hard to get an OR job as a new grad is that true? I'm also in MD so I was wondering what it was like for you.
Thanks!!
I graduate this week and the pandemic actually helped the OR be much more attainable new grads, all the OR RN residency positions I applied for gave me an offer! They're out there you just have to find them to get into it. I also preceptor in the OR for my final semester which helped a ton.
I see plenty of jobs in that area now since pandemic
ok
GBMC?
You've only been called in TWICE within two years!? I take at least five or six days of call every month and get called in at least once or twice each month (not counting the busy months like Nov and Dec). We have overnight call 7p-7a and first and second calls for day shifts. We are a 25 room OR. The call is killer - especially for general OR teams. Most surgeon's are assholes- you've just got to get over it and understand that he/she is probably frustrated and feels vulnerable in the moment. For course, this isn't an excuse for rude and agressive behavior- you've just got to become good at calling them out on it without them kicking you out of the room. If you don't it WILL continue.
M B, thank you for sharing this. I am a medsurg person but I am thinking about getting into OR; you mentioned becoming good at calling them out.....would you mind giving a short example of calling them out.
@@lovetoshare1979 Examples: Dr doesn’t want to sign consent form in holding. Instead, he wants to sign in room against policy. Don’t give in. Let him get away with it once he’ll expect it every time. Involve management if you have to. Things like that not only put him at risk, but also yourself. Also, politely correct them when having a “temper tantrum” episode such as “I didn’t appreciate you saying that and I’d like to discuss it later.” Don’t just let it slide but also keep your integrity intact. For the most part, though, surgeons are pretty nice and understanding (at least where I work lol).
When surgeons yell at you, are you allowed to talk back?
OR nursing was my worst experience in nursing. I NEVER knew when I was getting off. My girlfriend left me because she was convinced I was seeing another woman. The OR would add extras cases right before time to get off so I was constantly having to cancel on her.
can you yell at doctor if they yell at you
No. The surgeon is the star of the show. Everyone else plays a supporting role. If you push back during an operation, you're out. They are at their most vulnerable when operating; if something goes wrong, they are liable - which is why they lash out.
OH WOW ITS BEN A NIT DO YOU WORK IN THE OR
ITS BENA BIT
I will report the surgeon. I can’t stand rude people.
Verbal abuse towards nurses is so normalized. Whether it's from doctors or patients I can't stand them. I don't care about excuses that they're busy, stressed or for patients they're sick. There are people who go through the same thing and don't lash out so if someone does it shows personally what a jerk they are.
Hey there!!What's your IG account kindly?