Hip rotation is a core principle in Shito Ryu Karate as it enables the fighter to produce an ideal focal impact (Kime). As a matter of fact, the power and beauty of Shito Ryu is that you need to maintain Kime on more natural and dynamic stances in terms of width and length, so you should perform faster and more agile to compensate for the shorter distance, as often is the case in street fights and self-defense situations.
First of all: sorry for my English. So: The basic difference is that Shito-Ryu is the most beautiful :-) Seriously: The main difference is due to the fighting distance. Shotokan fights from further away, so its stances are deeper and therefore its movements are longer. (therefore lift fist over their shoulder) Shito-Ryu fights at closer range therefore the stance is higher the moves are shorter because doesn't have time for long moves. (That's why they only pull the fist up until the shoulder.) But a good example of this is e.g. the Goju-Ryu where the fight is very close and therefore the positions are even higher and the fist is only raised to the upper arm. But hip rotation is the basis of every karate style I know, as is Hara breathing. But of course I may not know it well. It was a long time ago when I studied Shito-Ryu.
I went from Tae Kwon Do to Shitoryu for about a month, and it was tough. An air force instructor had classes in my town. Very different turning the knees inward for blocking groin strikes. Average time to get black belt was 6 years vs Tae Kwon Do of 2 years.
I went into classes in the 80's and my second class was full contact under face with a green belt. No pads. He wore me out pretty good. Instructor left town my second class and the kid he left in charge asked for any volunteers to spar one on one. He was younger than me. I came from a Tae kwon Do back ground. That sparring session went on for a good 45 minutes. I was bruised up pretty good that night. Haha
This is not shito ryu. This is how a shotokan sees the difference between both schools. If I would like to simplify the difference between schools, I would say that in Shito-Ryu moves are smaller than in Shotokan, more natural. And by the way, Shito-Ryu use hip rotation as well
I kind of agree with you. This video was made a while ago after we had one Shotokan Instruction visiting our Shito Ryu club. Once he was lined up and perform these basic movements, Shotokan stands out from the rest of the Shito Ryu students with bigger movements.
That’s really wrong ..who said hip rotation and exhaling are absent in Shito Ryu ? All martial art style will teach you to rotate and exhale ..one of the basic principles..
Interesting, I do get this comment a lot. I am Kofukan Shito Ryu. There is no hip rotation. When Shihan Tomiyama perform, I saw little to no hip rotation. Is there a difference with your Shito Ryu practice?
I used to do Shito Ryu but now I practice Shoto Kan but from both dojos and senseis they both told me that breathing is silent and that the exaggerating breaths is a modern thing
I've practiced Shito-ryu karate-do with Nakahashi Sensei in Corsica Island. He was teaching us how practice all kihon and technics with hips. That was central. Oss
Si dices que los Shito ryu no rotamos la cadera para la ejecución de técnicas estás muy equivocado. Es evidente que pretenden publicitar el estilo de Shoto. No lo hagan a costa de mentir a la gente. De hecho, Shoto envió a sus alumnos principales a aprender con el maestro Kenwa Mabuni, (creador del estilo Shito ryu) porque no sabía más técnicas y katas. De allí él estudió y tergiversó por su egocentrismo. Esa es una historia confirmada.
Shito Ryu's age uke doesn't look like that. There, the arm not only goes up, but also a little forward. You can really see the difference in doubles practice, because the arm goes towards the opponent and it is much safer. In Shotokan, a stronger opponent will easily push down the arm performing the age uke. in Shit Ryu he can't do that because his arm slides off him as he blocks the strike at an angle. The Shotokan rotates the hips almost completely during the defense, leaving the stomach and back unprotected, and a lot of time passes between the defense and the counterattack. Shito Ryu only rotates the hips about forty-five degrees and the defending hand and the other attacking hand move in sync at the same time, so there is hardly any time between the defense and the counterattack.
Soto meaning 'out'. Uchi meaning In. Take the word Soto (Out) for example, the difference of using these words are; Shotokan's Soto Uke means block from the outside in, therefore the blocking arm moves from outside inward. Shito Ryu' soto (uchi) uke block for inside out, therefore the blocking arm moves from inside but is blocking 'out' wards. I found this very interesting, so I made this video.
@@FightEquipt In shito-Ryu we used Soto-Uke as in Shotokan; some master call it Yoko uchi. Uchi (ude) uke is also used in Shito-Ryu or called yoko uke.
Hiki-Te. Common in traditional martial arts like Kung Fu, Tai Kwan Do and karate etc as a basic form. This kind to techniques do not exist in most full contact fight sports like MMA, Western Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai etc with exception for Kyokushin and Kudo which is also karate.
En shito ryu las técnicas salen desde la altura de la boca del estómago (tuigets) y no desde la altura del hombro como en los demás estilos de karate en especial shotokan.
Why? The video didn't say which one is good and which one is bad. It's just saying they are different. They are indeed 2 distinct styles with difference.
Hip rotation is a core principle in Shito Ryu Karate as it enables the fighter to produce an ideal focal impact (Kime). As a matter of fact, the power and beauty of Shito Ryu is that you need to maintain Kime on more natural and dynamic stances in terms of width and length, so you should perform faster and more agile to compensate for the shorter distance, as often is the case in street fights and self-defense situations.
First of all: sorry for my English.
So:
The basic difference is that Shito-Ryu is the most beautiful :-)
Seriously:
The main difference is due to the fighting distance.
Shotokan fights from further away, so its stances are deeper and therefore its movements are longer. (therefore lift fist over their shoulder)
Shito-Ryu fights at closer range therefore the stance is higher the moves are shorter because doesn't have time for long moves. (That's why they only pull the fist up until the shoulder.)
But a good example of this is e.g. the Goju-Ryu where the fight is very close and therefore the positions are even higher and the fist is only raised to the upper arm.
But hip rotation is the basis of every karate style I know, as is Hara breathing.
But of course I may not know it well. It was a long time ago when I studied Shito-Ryu.
As a shodan shitoryu practitioner, I can tell you if your not rotating your hips in your techniques, your probably not doing it right.
I went from Tae Kwon Do to Shitoryu for about a month, and it was tough.
An air force instructor had classes in my town.
Very different turning the knees inward for blocking groin strikes.
Average time to get black belt was 6 years vs Tae Kwon Do of 2 years.
Shito Ryu is a best karate all over the world
I went into classes in the 80's and my second class was full contact under face with a green belt. No pads.
He wore me out pretty good.
Instructor left town my second class and the kid he left in charge asked for any volunteers to spar one on one.
He was younger than me.
I came from a Tae kwon Do back ground.
That sparring session went on for a good 45 minutes.
I was bruised up pretty good that night. Haha
Agreed it's a great sport.
No shotokan
Even I am a black belt in shito ryu
Exactly
Shito-Ryu appears more natural in terms of body movement as it isn't as exaggerated as Shotokan.
Awesome presentation!
Thank you, they are both helpful in different ways. It's good to learn both.
@@FightEquipt indeed.
Shito is more "raw" version
This is not shito ryu. This is how a shotokan sees the difference between both schools. If I would like to simplify the difference between schools, I would say that in Shito-Ryu moves are smaller than in Shotokan, more natural. And by the way, Shito-Ryu use hip rotation as well
I kind of agree with you. This video was made a while ago after we had one Shotokan Instruction visiting our Shito Ryu club. Once he was lined up and perform these basic movements, Shotokan stands out from the rest of the Shito Ryu students with bigger movements.
Both are same.. everything is karate
I like your answer :)
@@FightEquipt :)
That’s really wrong ..who said hip rotation and exhaling are absent in Shito Ryu ? All martial art style will teach you to rotate and exhale ..one of the basic principles..
Ambos ejemplos igual de malos
As a shito ryu karateka i can say that if you're not using hips you're not doing it properly
Interesting, I do get this comment a lot. I am Kofukan Shito Ryu. There is no hip rotation. When Shihan Tomiyama perform, I saw little to no hip rotation. Is there a difference with your Shito Ryu practice?
I think it's because of our Ryu ha, different masters have different interpretations though.
I used to do Shito Ryu but now I practice Shoto Kan but from both dojos and senseis they both told me that breathing is silent and that the exaggerating breaths is a modern thing
Unless they do San chin or Hangatsu :)
which do you find better
I've practiced Shito-ryu karate-do with Nakahashi Sensei in Corsica Island. He was teaching us how practice all kihon and technics with hips. That was central.
Oss
Si dices que los Shito ryu no rotamos la cadera para la ejecución de técnicas estás muy equivocado.
Es evidente que pretenden publicitar el estilo de Shoto. No lo hagan a costa de mentir a la gente. De hecho, Shoto envió a sus alumnos principales a aprender con el maestro Kenwa Mabuni, (creador del estilo Shito ryu) porque no sabía más técnicas y katas. De allí él estudió y tergiversó por su egocentrismo. Esa es una historia confirmada.
Shito Ryu's age uke doesn't look like that. There, the arm not only goes up, but also a little forward. You can really see the difference in doubles practice, because the arm goes towards the opponent and it is much safer. In Shotokan, a stronger opponent will easily push down the arm performing the age uke. in Shit Ryu he can't do that because his arm slides off him as he blocks the strike at an angle.
The Shotokan rotates the hips almost completely during the defense, leaving the stomach and back unprotected, and a lot of time passes between the defense and the counterattack. Shito Ryu only rotates the hips about forty-five degrees and the defending hand and the other attacking hand move in sync at the same time, so there is hardly any time between the defense and the counterattack.
Soto & Uchi Uke are upside down in Shotokan & Shito-Ryu
Soto meaning 'out'. Uchi meaning In. Take the word Soto (Out) for example, the difference of using these words are; Shotokan's Soto Uke means block from the outside in, therefore the blocking arm moves from outside inward. Shito Ryu' soto (uchi) uke block for inside out, therefore the blocking arm moves from inside but is blocking 'out' wards. I found this very interesting, so I made this video.
@@FightEquipt In shito-Ryu we used Soto-Uke as in Shotokan; some master call it Yoko uchi. Uchi (ude) uke is also used in Shito-Ryu or called yoko uke.
Shotokon is nice but shito ryu is best than alll over world than all style you know bloody 😠
That’s not true . According to me you’re making fun of shit-ryu😡.
Em.... I am Shito Ryu so I don't think so. When you are confident thinks that are different are interesting and fun, not being making fun of.
Yes
You didn't no what is uchi uke and what is soto uke in shito ryu
Please do explain.
this has nothing to do with shito ryu. Hip rotation and breathing are core principles. I honestly do not know what this video wants to demonstrate
try these technics in real fight and you will see how they are effective....good luck
The bent arm is so attacks slide off instead of giving the full Force to ur arm
What the fu*k is this? this is a completely lie and this is not shito ryu but it's the best style 💓
Why is the other arm being pulled back?
Hiki-Te. Common in traditional martial arts like Kung Fu, Tai Kwan Do and karate etc as a basic form. This kind to techniques do not exist in most full contact fight sports like MMA, Western Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai etc with exception for Kyokushin and Kudo which is also karate.
@@FightEquipt Dude what are you talking about? lol The question is: Why is the other arm being pulled back?
ഷോട്ടോക്കാനാണ് കൂടുതൽ നന്നായി തോന്നിയത്. രണ്ടും പ്രാക്ടീസ് ചെയ്താൽ നന്നായിരിക്കും
Nice
Entreno shito Ryu y en mis 7 años que e entrenado no e echo el Soto uke así solo de afuera asia adentro
There are hips in shito ryu.
Interesting, I do get this comment a lot. I am Kofukan Shito Ryu. There is no hip rotation. Is there a difference with your Shito Ryu practice?
En shito ryu las técnicas salen desde la altura de la boca del estómago (tuigets) y no desde la altura del hombro como en los demás estilos de karate en especial shotokan.
esta mal lo que estas haciendo en shito ryu te equivocaste en soto uke
It's not fair
I hate
Why? The video didn't say which one is good and which one is bad. It's just saying they are different. They are indeed 2 distinct styles with difference.
you can see the kung fu in the ryu
Bro representing shit-ryu, not Shito-Ryu. 🥱
This is nothing like shito ryu bro
Show me your real Shito Ryu please.
I don't think the stance is quite clear and strong
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Yes Iam Intrested
ALAS.......NOT FOLLOWING THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF SHITORYU NOR SHOTOKAN?
Shotokan is best form shytorio.
Fake
Of course it is
Everything about how you portray Shito Ryu in your video is wrong.
Sorry… but this means your video is BS.
Sorry you feel this way. Shito Ryu is very good.
Nao enporta o estilo os golpes e defesa são os mesmos .ha única diferença no karate que alguns tem mais katas do que os uotros
Practicamente haces mal shito ryu trata de movimientos de cintura
It's not true!!! BAD VIDEO!
That's bs
Oss
No sos bloqueos. Mal interpretación de los katas y los kihon.
Those blocks is not going to work in real life
No, many of the basic movements are not specifically use as how you apply it in real fights.
SHOTOKAN
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You cheater
You have no idea about sitho rye style.
Now stop doing drama.
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