People keep asking, the 1300 dollars was because Initially couldn’t make the raid because I was doing a Spotify event in New York during the raid time. The raid time got pushed back for a few reasons so I barely slept the last few days because even though I was going to go as Ret I said I’m going to go as holy because half of our healers had never done a raid in WoW before so I was worried that we needed more healing and I had no healing gear so I had to work to get everything. So the 1300 dollars came from changing my flight to the next day (-400 something dollars wtf), getting hotel an extra night (-500 something dollars WTF), and then renting out that streaming booth in some gamer bar in NYC (-300 something dollars WTF?????) but I didn’t want to not make it and worst case scenario shit hits the fan and people die and I’m not there it would just feel bad and I had just done that Spotify event sponsor so yeah… also this comment is so scatter brained because I also slept 3 hours ago and am exhausted see you guys on stream soon gtarp is coming back lol
That's what Pali's do IRL too man. You good. Been a part of the stream for a few months now and it's so nostalgic to see you getting back into classic old school games like WoW! The old school set up for the MC raid also took me back haha. -MrFuniBones :)
@@OGRUclipsEnjoyer Watch the healing meter right after Esfand used LoH. He shot up from 3.3k to 9.3k. Yes there was overlap with someone else's but it was in-fact his LoH. Either way, 1 sec later for either of them and Miz would have died, so good on both of the two paladins who used LoH. Esfand was just faster, thus he was in fact better.
Hearing 'we do so much more damage' about 3/400dps, then realizing some classes in sod are already doing 200+ at level 25 in sod. Sod it gonna be wild at 60
warriors were doing 1.3 and 1.5k dps on bosses THAT is whats insane tho i agree SoD dmg is gonna be insane we're probably gonna do Burning crusade levels of dmg at 60
lol they know, even soda announces that 20 year old veteran players still die in BWL. they know they will lose people. we got a while, they gotta farm onyxia leather lol
I'd love to see what an original BIS list would be for actual vanilla MC. Dire Maul hadn't even been released, no ZG, none of the other unique sets like savage gladiator chain.
Amazing job, so proud of these guys. They came over prepared and executed each boss fight to its strategy, this is why it was so easy. On top of the end game patch and them melting the bosses, its the execution and preparedness that made this such a treat to watch to their success.
I just really want to say to all the people saying negative or diminishing comments. Like oh it was easy they had all buffs etc. Getting 40 people to raid in hc with no deaths is job well done! Grats you guys amazing job!!!
The streaming booth was $300 and the audio, lighting & camera quality suck... That's insanity Great job on the raid!!! Top quality content nonetheless :)
Who is the raid leader in this raid? Dude's way too high-strung, and you can see that spill into their raid. They get real panicky on certain pulls. No understanding of staying calm and quiet, which is critical in those situations, especially on hardcore. Also, this is really wild to see as someone who raided through all of this content back in the 2005-2006 Vanilla era. All of this content was way, way harder back then for some of the reasons you mention at the end of this video, Esfand, and because of that we had to be super clean on our setups, pulls, CC, dispelling, and general strategy. The content wasn't nerfed at that point, nor were certain items buffed/fixed, nor did we have access to ZG and AQ 20 during MC, etc. It was also more difficult since there was no RUclips, limited known resources, etc. We would talk to other raiding guilds to learn things on that cutting edge of content. It's also worth noting that our computer hardware was just primitive compared to now, which added another layer of difficulty. Don't get me wrong - I love seeing these raids go well and people having fun, as that's what WoW raiding should be all about. It's what WoW retail fails to achieve nowadays, and for some years, due to excessive layering of mechanics, addons, and scripted fights.
The most fun about this video is how much you can relate to Esfand if you play/played a holy paladin. Spam spam spam spam spam, move mouse. Spam spam spam spam spam, move mouse Spam spam spam spam spam, spell casting.
I'd be interested to see a dps sim using the gear and specs (class changes during vanilla were pretty frequent) that were available when MC was current content.
3:33 the vocal panic around that moment meanwhile not a single person hp bar is going lower. Followed by a "holy FUCK" by Soda.. I know people will say they are " roleplaying" but..
I'm so disappointed they got to skip so many mechanics. Not that I wanted anyone to die, but just bc I feel like they missed out on a lot of what makes MC fun. Like not even seeing adds on Rag? Oh well, grats to the team and hopefully on future raids they're not overconfident!
they had full buffs and all the bis the possibly could that was mostly acquired with RWT they did the first raid of vanilla with gear from raids released after it its absolute overkill considering when classic released in 2019 ragnaros was downed in the first week by apes who were in mostly green gear and had level 58s in the raid
I Think i explained it fairly clear and even gave a timestamp of the exact time, if you'd like me to point out on YOUR video where they all died and healing is not needed that isnt until 4:02 - 4:04 not to sure of the confusion here man. :p @@EsfandTV
Almost no one was doing MC in full world buffs back in 2019 so not really surprised on that front. However, raiding with people that never did the fights, especially the raid leader, is a red flag to me and you can tell with the lot of unnecessary stress if you look at Soda panicking for no reasons. BWL will be the real test.
He keeps saying its the gear... when its really just world buffs. Its always been world buffs. When you use a mechanic that wasnt intended it trivializes content.
No… we had world buffs on private servers… guilds raided with world buffs back in the day… this conversation is beating a dead horse. It obviously wasn’t “not intended” people just make stuff up to fit their agenda I swear lol
Imagine would have had his on chat and own stream with the other 100k spacial snowflakes it would have been an amazing 250k peeople together in all streams people watching an 29 year old game. That would have been amaxing missed chance by chance and asmon.
Not ON the raid haha, it was to be able to raid, I think I explain it pretty early on in the video? I’ve never bought gold or anything stupid like that
Nah I told them I want to heal and only got 3 hours of sleep 3 nights in a row doing dungeons and stuff to get holy gear once I found out I could make the raid while in New York because I had basically no holy gear then
No… watch the video… it’s not buying gold, I had to spend 1300 dollars in order to make the raid because of hotel flight change, renting a setup at some place in New York. I have never and will never buy gold, my account means too much to me to risk it lol
legit biggest waste of time and click bait in wow entertainment history. they all got boosted. they all bought gold. they all manipulated GDKPs. they farmed phase 6 bis items for months. and then did the easiest raid in the entire game. the only good thing that could have come from it all was perd going to a war instead of a rogue and caused a huge amount of drama but everyone is a bunch of care bears so nothing came from it
Meme raid for this days buying gold and boosts with phase 6 ítems. This is just for content and make more interactions, likes, views, etc. Btw esfand is a bigger streamer for me, i'm not a hater.
@@EsfandTV physical, sure. but don't they get wrecked by magical more than others? And one would have to assume the fire damage in MC is mostly magical rather than physical.
What's the point in even having a guild then if you're just gonna do a raid with half of another guild??💀 can't even get 40 of his own members to do a raid how sad 🤣
@@EsfandTV I know I'm not saying your guild lol I'm saying sodas guild, they made a whole guild specifically for raids lol and then takes half of another guild raiding 😂
People keep asking, the 1300 dollars was because Initially couldn’t make the raid because I was doing a Spotify event in New York during the raid time. The raid time got pushed back for a few reasons so I barely slept the last few days because even though I was going to go as Ret I said I’m going to go as holy because half of our healers had never done a raid in WoW before so I was worried that we needed more healing and I had no healing gear so I had to work to get everything. So the 1300 dollars came from changing my flight to the next day (-400 something dollars wtf), getting hotel an extra night (-500 something dollars WTF), and then renting out that streaming booth in some gamer bar in NYC (-300 something dollars WTF?????) but I didn’t want to not make it and worst case scenario shit hits the fan and people die and I’m not there it would just feel bad and I had just done that Spotify event sponsor so yeah… also this comment is so scatter brained because I also slept 3 hours ago and am exhausted see you guys on stream soon gtarp is coming back lol
Rest up paladin
Rest up. Glad you were able to make it
That's what Pali's do IRL too man. You good. Been a part of the stream for a few months now and it's so nostalgic to see you getting back into classic old school games like WoW! The old school set up for the MC raid also took me back haha. -MrFuniBones :)
I have a question, have you talked to Blizzard about the procrate of T1 in SOD? Ty.
Esfand is absolutely coming in clutch with this Lay on Hands on Miz, all while keeping calm. Number one paladin for sure
@Somnolentias What do you mean? He says it all the time.
@Somnolentias Wasn't even Esfand...
And yet he still does 0 damage. Literally he should have just rolled a priest and he'd of been more functionally useful
@@prod7906you’re actually so stupid, I don’t know how you exist in real life
@@OGRUclipsEnjoyer Watch the healing meter right after Esfand used LoH. He shot up from 3.3k to 9.3k. Yes there was overlap with someone else's but it was in-fact his LoH. Either way, 1 sec later for either of them and Miz would have died, so good on both of the two paladins who used LoH. Esfand was just faster, thus he was in fact better.
Hearing 'we do so much more damage' about 3/400dps, then realizing some classes in sod are already doing 200+ at level 25 in sod. Sod it gonna be wild at 60
warriors were doing 1.3 and 1.5k dps on bosses THAT is whats insane
tho i agree SoD dmg is gonna be insane we're probably gonna do Burning crusade levels of dmg at 60
holy shit what classes are doing 200 dps in sod I swear the highest i've seen is like 150
@@Tonykid7mm hunters, rogues, warriors
@Tonykid7 Idk what kind of handless ppl you play with, but rogues, warriors, ferals and hunters. Warriors can do 50 more
hey Esfand i appericate the YT uploads as someone who cant always catch the stream glad these snips make here.
this audio quality and setup reminds me of old Esfand youtube streams :DD
@@blubblubwhat Aware…
seeing esfand playing holy pala is so weird. Also i am impressed with his performance.
Ret, Holy, Prot, I do it all :D
I actually really enjoy the Holy content. You have a very good analytical voice on all of this, feel like you get more of it in a healer role.
Man looking at how clean they did it possible for them to do bwl but if they have players who never done a single run in bwl that will be wild 😂
lol they know, even soda announces that 20 year old veteran players still die in BWL. they know they will lose people. we got a while, they gotta farm onyxia leather lol
@@khmer5o3 the onyxia leather needed to get into BWL?
@@Ben-Jack ony capes to survive nef shadow flame
@khmer5o3 They are just going to buy the cloaks. Unlimited g2g and simp funds
they overgeared the f out of it
I'd love to see what an original BIS list would be for actual vanilla MC. Dire Maul hadn't even been released, no ZG, none of the other unique sets like savage gladiator chain.
Amazing job, so proud of these guys. They came over prepared and executed each boss fight to its strategy, this is why it was so easy. On top of the end game patch and them melting the bosses, its the execution and preparedness that made this such a treat to watch to their success.
I just really want to say to all the people saying negative or diminishing comments. Like oh it was easy they had all buffs etc. Getting 40 people to raid in hc with no deaths is job well done! Grats you guys amazing job!!!
The streaming booth was $300 and the audio, lighting & camera quality suck... That's insanity
Great job on the raid!!! Top quality content nonetheless :)
yeah I was pretty disappointed in the audio :(
@@EsfandTV You gotta do what you gotta do! Phenomenal raid and congrats.
Who is the raid leader in this raid? Dude's way too high-strung, and you can see that spill into their raid. They get real panicky on certain pulls. No understanding of staying calm and quiet, which is critical in those situations, especially on hardcore. Also, this is really wild to see as someone who raided through all of this content back in the 2005-2006 Vanilla era. All of this content was way, way harder back then for some of the reasons you mention at the end of this video, Esfand, and because of that we had to be super clean on our setups, pulls, CC, dispelling, and general strategy. The content wasn't nerfed at that point, nor were certain items buffed/fixed, nor did we have access to ZG and AQ 20 during MC, etc. It was also more difficult since there was no RUclips, limited known resources, etc. We would talk to other raiding guilds to learn things on that cutting edge of content. It's also worth noting that our computer hardware was just primitive compared to now, which added another layer of difficulty. Don't get me wrong - I love seeing these raids go well and people having fun, as that's what WoW raiding should be all about. It's what WoW retail fails to achieve nowadays, and for some years, due to excessive layering of mechanics, addons, and scripted fights.
BWL is definitely do able with ppl who know what theyre doing just more risks that cant really be negated itll come down to rng & good comms/synergy
I see that priest is still in the guild that was one of the reasons why a tank died and he proceeded to call Sardaco trash... lol
The priest didn't make him run in with no shield or consumes
@Legend011 He also didn't do what he (or any priest) was told to do. Hence why I said "one of the reasons), did you miss that part?
@@Xizek He pulled unprepared not the priest. He was the one that ran in. 🤣. so no, it was solely in his control to not die.
The most fun about this video is how much you can relate to Esfand if you play/played a holy paladin.
Spam spam spam spam spam, move mouse.
Spam spam spam spam spam, move mouse
Spam spam spam spam spam, spell casting.
I'd be interested to see a dps sim using the gear and specs (class changes during vanilla were pretty frequent) that were available when MC was current content.
the $1300 raid pogchamp, the cherry on top would be a legendary item dropping
Great video, brings back so many memories from raiding MC back in the day
I think this might eclipse that Gruul fight you had in TBC !
A raid of WoW sweats, boost famous RUclipsr Rav through Molten Core, in hopes of featuring in one of his videos.
For the right to /pet howard
Maybe I’m out of touch but pretty sure Rav is the biggest nobody in the raid.
Lmao to be fair there’s only like 10 sweats in this raid max
3:33 the vocal panic around that moment meanwhile not a single person hp bar is going lower. Followed by a "holy FUCK" by Soda..
I know people will say they are " roleplaying" but..
Miz aoe taunted and legit almost got one shot from the 8 dogs smacking him once it was super hype ngl
I'm so disappointed they got to skip so many mechanics. Not that I wanted anyone to die, but just bc I feel like they missed out on a lot of what makes MC fun. Like not even seeing adds on Rag? Oh well, grats to the team and hopefully on future raids they're not overconfident!
conveniently forgot to include the part where he bopped Soda on the first pull
love me some mc i dont even play anymore i started 2019 launch and stopped after algalon but this looks fun on hardcore!
Maybe classic raids need upscaling difficulty levels
No point raiding has never been difficult because of addons
they had full buffs and all the bis the possibly could that was mostly acquired with RWT
they did the first raid of vanilla with gear from raids released after it
its absolute overkill considering when classic released in 2019 ragnaros was downed in the first week by apes who were in mostly green gear and had level 58s in the raid
Congratulations! Zero Deaths!
Esfand your thumbnail is terrible. Anyway, the raid was fun, though the egos in the comms were a bit much at times.
8:55 FUCKING LOL 😭😭😭
ehhhhhhhhh, when you know how many bought gold out the guild, nah that aint it. not truly hardcore
Actually boring af. 0 deaths, quick kills, massively over-geared.
what up esfand
World buffs kinda ruin these raids. It was super boring to watch.
Gj on your part Esfand. :)
It’s actually a lot more complicated than just world buffs, raiding without world buffs sucks
1300 bucks for a raid wtf,,,,,,
3:55 when esfand thinks people talking is worse then taking his hands off the keyboard LOL
... the mobs are dead? what are you talking about lmao
I Think i explained it fairly clear and even gave a timestamp of the exact time, if you'd like me to point out on YOUR video where they all died and healing is not needed that isnt until 4:02 - 4:04 not to sure of the confusion here man. :p
@@EsfandTV
Almost no one was doing MC in full world buffs back in 2019 so not really surprised on that front. However, raiding with people that never did the fights, especially the raid leader, is a red flag to me and you can tell with the lot of unnecessary stress if you look at Soda panicking for no reasons. BWL will be the real test.
"Hardcore" should be in the title.
Calling Dragonstalker garbage loot.. come on man.. I mean, I know its pink... but come on man.
Road too Naxx!
What happened to people staying off the mic with pointless chatter
only a 10 hour run 🤣🤣🤣
Miz's fault 3:30
He keeps saying its the gear... when its really just world buffs. Its always been world buffs. When you use a mechanic that wasnt intended it trivializes content.
No… we had world buffs on private servers… guilds raided with world buffs back in the day… this conversation is beating a dead horse. It obviously wasn’t “not intended” people just make stuff up to fit their agenda I swear lol
Proud of will
Why can I never see jodies pov
$1300?! Of what?
How do i get a invite to crusade?
poor video prodcution damn the clicks in the videos are the most annoying thing and We dont wanna talk about your room and microphone lol XD
espescially audiowise cancer bro lol
Looks like fun
how can you spend 1300 bucks on a free game
It wasn’t on the raid, it was to be able to raid. That’s why I’m not at home
Who the fuck is using a void walker on Rag. I get for shield but shouldn’t need if you’re dps pumps lmao
So much background noise, hard for me to watch.
When’s Ony?!
imagine how toxic this raid would have been if assmon was there.
Imagine would have had his on chat and own stream with the other 100k spacial snowflakes it would have been an amazing 250k peeople together in all streams people watching an 29 year old game. That would have been amaxing missed chance by chance and asmon.
no lol
Did he really spend 1300 on the raid? Such a shame if true.
Not ON the raid haha, it was to be able to raid, I think I explain it pretty early on in the video? I’ve never bought gold or anything stupid like that
Wow
how shameful, having to play healbot as a paladin
He is rocking it
Nah I told them I want to heal and only got 3 hours of sleep 3 nights in a row doing dungeons and stuff to get holy gear once I found out I could make the raid while in New York because I had basically no holy gear then
do you member nost lol
Looks so eZ
was this hard core or what ??? go big or go home
is he admitting to buying gold?
No… watch the video… it’s not buying gold, I had to spend 1300 dollars in order to make the raid because of hotel flight change, renting a setup at some place in New York. I have never and will never buy gold, my account means too much to me to risk it lol
My bad homie by the end of the video i realized.. my fault shouldnt have jumped the gun….keep up the good content king see you in ashenvale
Well the exciting part where everyone died over and over leveling is over. Lul raids
So much gold wasted for a raid that could've been done in an hour lol. Need bwl the wbuffs and phase 6 preraids make this so stupid lmao.
legit biggest waste of time and click bait in wow entertainment history.
they all got boosted.
they all bought gold.
they all manipulated GDKPs.
they farmed phase 6 bis items for months.
and then did the easiest raid in the entire game.
the only good thing that could have come from it all was perd going to a war instead of a rogue and caused a huge amount of drama but everyone is a bunch of care bears so nothing came from it
Meme raid for this days buying gold and boosts with phase 6 ítems.
This is just for content and make more interactions, likes, views, etc.
Btw esfand is a bigger streamer for me, i'm not a hater.
you guys legit trusted Miz to tank MC ? As a druid of all things?
Druid tanks are great in vanilla what are you talking about lol
@@EsfandTV physical, sure.
but don't they get wrecked by magical more than others?
And one would have to assume the fire damage in MC is mostly magical rather than physical.
What's the point in even having a guild then if you're just gonna do a raid with half of another guild??💀 can't even get 40 of his own members to do a raid how sad 🤣
What do you mean this is a whole guild run lol, Crusade is my real guild that I run, OnlyFangs is the Hardcore streamer meme guild
@@EsfandTV I know I'm not saying your guild lol I'm saying sodas guild, they made a whole guild specifically for raids lol and then takes half of another guild raiding 😂
@@EliteEmpirex oh okay, it is all OnlyFangs though, some people who got 60 got denied because too many of certain classes
@@EsfandTV I'd be heartbroken lol, grinding to 60 to be told you can't join cus too many people are the same class, WoW can be crazy🤣