SOTL vs 7 Extreme AI (but I have 256x mod)
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2020
- Can I take on 7 extreme AI? Normally, not a chance. But what if I can research every tech as many times as I want? Well then, maybe I've got a shot!
Cheat code used: "going above and beyond"
Patreon: / spiritofthelaw
Game: Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition, with Forgotten Empires, African Kingdoms, Rise the Rajas, and Last Khans expansions 
Игры
I fear not the man who has researched10,000 techs once, but I fear the man who has researched one tech 10,000 times.
-Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee, former trade cart owner
666
Well, that man who has more techs than the game allows is someone I fear as well
Bruce Lee wise words 👏👏
It's a reference to this Bruce lee's quote: do not fear the man who has kicked 10000 balls, but fear the man whose balls has been kicked 10000 times.
Sire! We have learned the craft of fletching.
Good. Learn it again.
*Steel Beam* Idiot I just finished high school ...
Fully automated platinum laser fletching.
That'll learn 'em!
😂😂😂
Fear not the man who has learned a thousand kicks; fear the man who has practiced a single kick a thousand times.
Turns out, fighting off an army in the feudal age isn't so bad when you arm your archers with M60's
By the end they were pretty much armed with laser beams.
Theres actually an anime about that. Modern Japan military invading a medival fantasy world lol. It went as expected. (Anime is GATE for short or Gate: Jieitai Kano Chi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri in long)
@Cressecredan I have to correct you for that, Rori Mercury is 961 years old, just a half century she will turn into a deity spirit then turn into a goddess. And yes, best girl- she can also change her form so she's not just a loli but a package of best sizes.
Just like Vietnam, except no Soviet nor Chinese aid
@@Cassadin1883 Also "High School Prodigies Have It Easy...", arming the essentially-medieval population with modern weapons.
at the end theres a whole goose attached to each arrow with all that fletching.
This comment is highly underrated
The horses bulge like mosquitos because of all those bloodlines, but they need it to carry the 35 layers of scale armor and the sword that's had material added to it 85 times
Would explain how they fly so far
lmaoo
I think with that range the goose had been replaced with an orbital targeting system
*enemies in the base, chaos everywhere, death and destruction reigns*
_i think we can start thinking about castle age here pretty soon._
Hehehe dude! good one. 😂😂
Let's get crazy and build a happy little castle.. Here.we go.
@@cyberocioso aight Bob
Hi Fluttershy
@@Steph-pg4rp Hey guys, Spirit of the Ross here
"i only have two lumberjacks, we need to up those numbers a bit. i need at /least/ four" - me playing AOE2 at age seven
Relatable!
I don't know why "4" was always the number of workers on a specific resource when I was little. It just fealth right x)
@@manolgeorgiev9664 Are you both me?
@@manolgeorgiev9664 Funnily enough, I always go in numbers of five. Five archers, then ten, then 15, etc.
Same with villagers. :D
@@manolgeorgiev9664 i prefer 5
Eco must be divisible by 5 or 10 lol
Imagine being the poor sods who has to live in the houses whose sole purpose is to act as wall from the enemy lol, you wake up one morning to people hitting your window with swords
This comment gave me some real zombie vibes for some reason and now I want resident evil AoE game
@@isoSw1fty they are billions?
The 'this is fine' meme has never been as fitting.
Agreed
7:25
"and of course i walled out a villager"
*villager casually walks back inside through the giant hole right next to the house
and then he wonders how militia keep getting in... Dude, There's A Hole
And that is why you use small trees.
@@ichijared and a grid..
That's fun from the guy who made a video about "gaps in the walls"
@@aeth4190 He knows that it happens from first hand experience :D
Guy who constantly blowing the warning horn: Please kill me now!
😂😂😂😂
Imagine being a villager on the opposing team. Nothing happens for about 40 minutes and you're free to continue working until a horde of cavalry teleports to your home, razing it in seconds and killing you in one strike. SOTL just re-invented the Nazgul and all it took was a group of master blacksmiths and horse trainers.
Hahahajah , more like blitzkrieg at the speed of light
The Wild Hunt, AOE style
Is like the ascient human history
Sounds like a Conan movie.
the player is basically Sauron
You know a gamer when he types 'gg' to the AI.
You know you're Canadian when you type "gg" to the AI. So polite.
As he said in an early video, you should always be polite to the AI because when the computers rise up you want them to remember that you were one of the nice humans and then maybe they'll show mercy towards you.
@@carrots1550 in which video he said that? Anyway, it looks like Roko's Basilisk idea spread wide. :)
@ ayo lmao questionable content gang rise up
The AI actually replies to you now if you type GG. Always be polite ;)
I love how SotL is so calm while he's managing his economy, meanwhile there's a light perimeter of full-auto crossbowmen around his base staving off constant assaults from 7 different armies
Oh no... Anyways
By the way:
ruclips.net/video/GYFJjwXtsU4/видео.html
"I don't think we are in Kansas anymore, Dr. Horse" - Trade Cart Guy probably, as fifteen thousand arrows tear the ground apart right behind him.
...and before a dozen of quantum travel light cavalry teleport around him.
Lol
One of the best parts of this video.
"What if we glue another feather on the arrows?"
"Damn it Lee.... that's brilliant, where do you keep getting the idea to glue another feather on the arrow?"
*Presents arrow with giant puff ball on the back*
Presents feathers with feathers glued onto them.
"If you have unlimited ammunition, it does not matter how accurate you are, only how fast you can shoot." - Sun Tzu - Maybe
Overheating perhaps, you will also need unlimited amount of guns xD
"Quantity has a quality all its own"
- Napoleon
*MOAR DAKKA!!!*
SOTL's Light Cav: "Nothing personal kid" *Teleports behind all of red's villagers*
personnel*
@@fullfist Lol no I'm pretty sure I used the right word there.
@@PeferG17 You used the correct word: Personnel is what you have as employees in a company! Personal reflects to yourself! Unless the guy correcting you is French and thought it was a mistake!
@@MALEMization Believe it's just part of the meme
@@ryapowa It is part of a meme yes but nevertheless PeterG17 wrote it correctly. We're studying spelling here, not memeology!
"I'm surprised AI resigned so early"... You had 10x their score.
The Inca hit you with the "My peasants only had a puny 25 HP." I think he might have been a little salty that you researched all that loom...
26:49, the UI is so aggressive that a random trade cart leads the charge
25:55
SOTL: "Attack those Longbows while outranging them!"
Crossbow: "My lord, is that legal?"
SOTL: "I will make it legal." *Spams Fletching*
He can make everything legal if he wants to because he is the Spirit of the Law.
@@Zorisura I can't tell whether you know the reference and make this joke or it flew over your head
@@arshiaaghaei Joke definitely flew over my head.
@@Zorisura You'd be surprised that how many people tend to not actually realize something is a joke
I love the build path for this fight.
opponent: Does anything
Spirit of the Law: Better get fletching
"Its almost like they're automatic crossbows... if only there was a name for chinese crossbows that fire like that"
but the chukonu crossbow was so bad in design that they had to poison the bolts to make them lethal :(
@@themonarchserupt4051 It's a great design... just not for war. But for peacekeping and protecting officials it's kinda great as it's enough to scare off opponents when outnumbered.
More like that abomination a certain German guy made in the woods.
its a shame he didnt actually build chu ko nus ):
@@JonatasAdoM I'll show you its features
Funny tip: Supplies will actually give you food everytime you create a milia when you have researched it a couple times
Ya most effective strategy is definitely: rushing to Feudal > Research Supplies 4-5 times > Queue up 15 militia > Use the free food > Un-queue and re-queue militia > Repeat
@@Tylemaker19 Profit
You can just queue and un-queue because u don't lose the food u get from militia
Stonks
It doesn't give food. It makes it cheaper. 100-50% is 50
-50% is 25
-50% is 12.5
...
It will end at 0. But not negative
Congrats, you've invented tower defense
Longbows : Nooo you can't just outrange us! We are the best archers!
SOTL : Haha! Crossbow go pew pew pew
you wrote one pew to much
He should've written pew 256 times
@@GovernorBroadsideDS yes, that is the right way.
By the end they went Brrrrrrrr
A-10 Crossbow
You should've went with Persian not only for the crazy high amount of cheap archers you could get, but for the perfect opportunity to say "Our arrows will blot out the sun!"
42:22 "Oh yeah! I forgot about relics" said every player ever. Seriously I always forget they are even a thing
SotL: OMG wood only crossbows would be amazing on this
Also SotL: Floats 6k gold while saying that
Heh. Try mayan arbalest they will melt all buildings as well.
@@jeroen92 tbh +6 versus building is not that big of a deal. You could do the same with full skirm, just a couple more thumb ring and you will shoot just as fast as xbows and 4 fletching more and you have just as much damage. 256 mod really is hard to grasp
@@diegeigergarnele7975 the point is speed. You essentially get 6 fletchings for free against buildings which is a big deal as it will allow you to take out enemy towncenters in early castle age with ease. It's the best rush tactic this gametype has to offer and it's really hard to stop.
All he needed to do was build skirmishers or crossbows and keep researching fletching, he didn't even need the light calvary. I've modded a conquerors expansion to allow researching all techs 4 times and ranged units were always better than melee.
@@lilchristuten7568 At 4 times definitely. At 256, the speed boost melee units get might become significant. But ranged units might still have the edge since they can get faster attacks.
If Spiffing's video taught me anything, it's that in this mode if you don't have units firing across the length of the whole map, you don't have enough range upgrade yet.
Bombard cannons come down almost vertically its truly epic
@@tigercs1 You're exiting the game and it still not landing
"The AI's being super aggressive" It might be freaking out because you got Loom literally 3 times. I'd be super aggressive if I was against what is basically a god-empire in the making.
''Stupid SoTL villagers and their mythril armour..."
Mrithil*
@@samuelralte7 mithril*
@@NocturnalNugget2 yes
If you research supplies you get food by making militia
Also if you ring the townbell all your farmers wil drop off their food ;-)
So Malay should do pretty good with Swordsman :D
With this version, it just goes to 0.
@@16semiquavers I have tried it. You get food for making militia after researching supplies for the third or forth time ;-)
@Antun Šturlić have you unlocked the cheat code "going above and beyond"?
You have to fulfill the Tasks you are given in the latest update of DE.
@@satanickeili
-.- you have to complete tasks to unlock cheat codes.
20:20 haha phrases like "let's start getting SOME Thumb Ring"
Villager stabs Man-at-arms to death be like "You picked the wrong house fool!" 11:02
"I've the fever. And the only prescription....is more FLETCHING"
Finally a certain silverboi would be able to beat 4 extreme AI after watching your video.
*sad snek noises*
Even with the mod the amount of thumb rings should be limited to two. After this it should just be possible to get finger rings.
just research longer thumbs to stack more rings onto!
If you make the rings really thin you can fit 128 rings per thumb.
Does anyone know what the benefit of researching that >1 is? They never miss (a stationary target) after that’s researched. I’m so confused as to why he wanted to research it a bunch of times.
jay sullivan it also increases fire rate, so it’s actually an amazing tech to research as many times as it takes to max out fire rate.
@@joshuahart153 , okay, thanks. I thought the attack upgrades at the blacksmith did that.
FINALLY HE DID WHAT HE CONFIRMED IN THE BOAR VIDEO
1 on boar, 7 on sheep
What video was that?
I too am curious to know from where it is :)
Guys, it was SOTL’s most BOAR-ing video. Just search up “aoe2 boar” and the video screen should be one with a boar and captions saying “my most boaring video”
@Lucas Kang - Thanks! It starts around 7:46 for anyone else looking to skip to that part.
SOTL is so nice that he even says "gg" to the AI
>When your walking through a neighborhood full off sprinklers
😂😂😂 that's a good one.
😆
You're*
I'm incredibly disappointed and my day is ruined.
@@freedomofspeech2867 apparently the freedom of speech doesn't include the freedom of making mistakes
@@abelpap5313 I haven't encroached on my own freedom as a consequence.
Rival medieval kingdoms banding together to fend off an alien invasion: colorized, now in full 3D!
I was thinking the same thing.
Something I learned recently: your trade carts can trade with an enemy market, even in 1vs 7. For the 256x cheat, if you spam the increase trade cart speed your carts and cogs zoom around the map, and generate thousands or millions of gold. Build something like 10-20 cart army, send it into and through the nemy base, and they'll auto route back to your market. With 10-20 at least one should make it. Oddly the resource that drags the most is food. Farmers don't gather faster, but also take longer between drop off if you spam handcart. Fishing ships on the other hand and provide a continuous income of food, with big boosts with food when the villagers finally drop of (or you strategically place town centers and ring the bell to force mass drop off).
Richard Lionheart AI abdication:
"Thou art human, with heart and wit.
I am naught but clockwork!
No wonder thou went victorous!
I shall abdicate"
Spirit's heart and wits spamming fletching in 256x mod
26:22 lmao that villager trying to pull off some matrix shit, it always cracks me up when the ai does some insane micro dodging, but i think they need to fix that sometimes it gets very frustrating :(
Just last night I played against an AI and he microed a villager for just under 10 seconds against 50 crossbows with ballistics and thumb ring. It just not fair, haha.
@@Patchnote2.0 it happens all the time :(
Human cheated with tech mod, AI cheated with instant micro. It is fair.
2:35 with 2 free looms with the starting 100 gold = 55 hp, 2/4 armor
3:00 no looms added, villager has 70 hp and 3/6 armor
wtf?
Good catch. That's very strange.
I was wondering where the 3rd 50 gold/loom came from without collecting ressources and researching the tech again^^
Hacks :D
So they implemented a cheat code that is bugged in such a way as to make it even better than it's supposed to be? Not sure if I should even complain.
I tried the same strategy as SOTL with chinese and got the same result... after a few minutes, my dudes went from 55 2/4 to 70 3/6. No idea what it triggered.
We Probably two minutes away.
Exactly two minutes later: You are victorious
"Going Above and Beyond"
When a mod is so popular the devs decide to make it a part of the game itself. XD
"Thou art human, with soul and wit. I am naught but clockwork!"
Honestly, that resignation quote makes me feel bad for the AI. :,(
Now that's entertainment. I hope it was as fun playing as it was fun for us watching. :)
SOTL: I thinks so I'm gonna go with chinease, for there discount on bonuses!
Japanese: I thought we were friends man! :'-(
After all these years...
Learn spesking english befor posting shit
@@LebronJahumes Learn spesking German befor picking shit nick names.
P.S. i really like your word creation. Spesking sounds just awesone.
@@ashmonkey2572 😂😂😂
And something like you has 12 likes 😂
Me 20 minutes into the game: hmm still a lot of defending, does he actually make it out
Me 5 minutes later: still defensive, i think he's gonna lose... oh wait he's making cavalry
1 minute later: :0
39:40 Light cav literally outrunning arrows; the guy in the castle “wait that’s illegal”
I always like to imagine what the original designers would think if they saw this was how people play the game just before releasing the it back in 1999
'Food is the problem'
-Decides to spend every bit of food buildup on redundant techs buffing the things that are already godlike.
-Decides to transition into the most food-heavy unit at his disposal.
Me, an intellect: *researchers Spies 256 times.
Imagine adding Obsidian Arrows times X to those Archers, just smoking castles across the map.
me: *enables cheat codes
The AI im facing, literally one millisecond after the game started: "I R Winner"
The most broken strat is going for the market, trade carts go so fast and collect so much gold.
@@PassengerOnTheMenu But you can't trade with a converted market
@@PassengerOnTheMenu You can trade with enemy markets, and the carts are so blindingly fast they're basically untouchable and they collect so much gold.
If you research the tech for tradecarts like 10 times, each trade cart will fill with 100k gold per run. As long as 1 trade cart makes it, gg no re
@@rebirthofshien364 100k?..
Ya I tried that one vs the ai and got 100k gold in under 10 seconds, just a huge all in trade cart rush. It was amazing
The AI probably had dumbed soooo much resources into the armies to try and kill you early and couldn't understand why crossbows were surviving 40 onagers.
“Im gonna give myself one small advantage”.... i just can turn every one of my units into the offspring of Zeus and the Flash...
*Light cavs destroying Tc's in 5 seconds*
"It's not Fair enought"
Wait.... wait...
Malay... Suppllies... I'm off to try something.
[:EDIT:]
Oh my god, what have I created. Supplies bugged. Militia line is bringing food.
There is an issue with food. You produce military to gain food. My mind broke.
Leszek Phan *cries in goth*
Free labour
@@pancapana0190 Even slave masters had to give them a bit of food... or something
Governemental subvention for ya
why didn't you go multiple town watch?, long range requires long sight
If the wiew range is like in HD, then it caps at 22
Even with the cheat you can only research those techs once each.
@@najarvis That's a shame.
@@najarvis then what's the point of calling it 256x tech mod, (only one time effect researches should be done once (like age) all other researches (which make improvements) should be 256x
@@dhavallad2712 I'm pretty sure it is because the view range maximum is limited by the engine, so at a point you would just be wasting resources. Not sure if that's a valid reason though because it's also a waste to research masonry so many times all your building health goes negative and they self destruct.
35:04 FLOATING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND GOT PLACES TO GO GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAINBOW
"Does he not have to stop and reload?"
"He must have a reeeaaally long bracer or something."
Just go inca, get loom a bunch in dark/feudal and rush their TC. Basically impervious villagers.
Then later you can get infantry upgrades for attack and you'll have super soldiers.
Don't forget Wheelbarrow for villagers to go _fast_
Supremacy is better
@@StepIndonesia also not available in dark age
@@blazingbowman9295 the *zoomies*
"The only way to define your limits is by going beyond them"...
Using cheat codes
Words to live by.
You make alarm sounds go as fast as a rock concert
34:26
"We only got 2 lumberjacks, we need to up that number at least 4."
Alternative title: How to zerg rush in AoE II
You show try this with Spanish and supremacy :D
how original, but i don't think it would work for unique tech, for now.
if it does affect unique tech , he would use Chu Ko Nu with Rocketry
@@ashina2146 TaToH dominates forest nothing with 256x mod using the Spaniards. At one point, the villagers seem to lose their molecular cohesion for going so fast, and they can 1hit about everything.
if you're going to use unique techs then go for the Ethiopians and their infamous torsion ICBMs
@@ashina2146 it does work for unique tech. Its easier to get fletching than roketry multiple times plus chukonu fire next shot after they fired all arrows so multiple thumbring will not affect them and they will be much much slower than crossbows.
@@ashina2146 It does affect unique techs. I tried Warwolf and got global AOE trebuchet shots that nuked everything on the map.
Loving the plague of light cav locusts just ALL over the enemy bases haha!
"Their arrows blot out the sun."
"Then we shall fight in the shade."
Those Archers man and then the speed force cav to finish them off lol.
It's nice to see that Cossacks are getting a medieval spin-off.
Nikita L. Do you have to unlock this cheat I carnt get it to work???
@@azamatbagatov5744 Yes, on the main screen there should be a few easy "quests" or such. Do those and you'll unlock this (I think it's still going? There's also a mod in the workshop that does this if you can't get the cheat)
Ah, I remember that mission where you could buy upgrades for your soldiers an infinite number of times. A few money cheats later, and my Musketeers were doing 350 damage per shot, enough to one shot every unit in the game. I went around most of the map with one guy after that, sniping the enemy armies one by one.
Thanks
@@Codraroll Basically, Saxonian 18th century musketmen in a nutshell.
These vs. AI videos are very enjoyable to watch :)
You should try sapper villagers with high speed. They're scary when you get them high enough as they just one hit most if not all buildings, for very little overall cost per unit.
- So how many times have you researched *Fletching* again?
- *Yes*
-... And how many times for *Conscription* ?
- *Ants* ! Ants everywhere.
- But what is your goal?
- *Yes.*
i got my ass handed to me recently when we were doing a 4v4 where we beat 3 out of 4 people and some guy beat all 4 of us by himself.
Was this me? Had a game like this recently. Was it on alpine lakes and "the guy" played persians? I am just curious, now that u wrote that x)
@@zeggsy0554 No Wayyyyy!
@@madil2259 whut?
@@zeggsy0554 I'm just messing with ya. 😁
About lack of food. With “x256 wheelbarrow” farmers hold a huge amount of food without dropping it to nearest tc or mill.
That's why Khmer is great for this.
Yes he said that like 30 seconds after complaining about the lack of food speedup techs
That can be easily solved by ringing the bell
@@alanbareiro6806 On the one hand that requires additionnal micro, on the other hand, once your farm eco has taken off, they still farm just as fast/faster, the food just comes in in giant chunks instead of 20 at a time
Malay are insane for this. Once you have gill nets x10 or so it's instant pickup food from an infinite source.
Really should have a stance for Villagers that's "if attacked retaliate, if idle attack nearby enemies"
so, aggressive stance?
@@nox_luna More like Defensive, but same difference.
@@ReshyShira i guess if you wanted them to return to thier spot instead of chase a trade cart halfway across the map yeah.
also neat reshiram pfp you got there.
I really like your game commentary. It really helps me understand what's going on on an actual match.
25:54 "Heh, the longbows are like: 'Wait, you can't out-range us. That's illegal!'" LMAO
The craziest thing with the official 256x mod is that when you get Supplies more than 4 times (militia cost -15 food), you start getting given food every time you make militia.
No, I'm not joking.
Aegis: Finally! A Worthy Opponent! Our Battle Will Be Legendary!
Incredible video Spirit! Love seeing mod and scenario videos
Farmer tip I've found from playing 256x cheat/mod is to intermittently just hit town bell. With enough wheelbarrow they garrison almost instantly and you get massive 10k food dropoffs at once.
Try it with infinite resources and aegis. It gets pretty hilarious.
That makes AoE transform into a taxing benchmark, I reckon.
And 500 population limit.
Holy shit. I can smell the fire...
Almost as bad as triple size ultra unit scale in Warhammer 2 with max settings. Never again.
Sounds like deathmatch gameplay actually
I did that. i won within 5 mins
Does squires work with Unique units..
I mean imagine elite teutonic knights or
Goth infantry barrage
good idea if it works
also, if you research Perfusion 3x or so it's almost instant creation of all infantry.
units with high base stats are kind of useless because you can simply substitute for them with a couple of extra techs.
You are really looking for units that have special properties that can not be replicated with techs.
Yes it does work but why use them when you can upgrade your militia line a few times?
If there was a mod that gave something like aggressive stance for monks I'd want to see if this could be done with only monks. just convert all of the enemies.
17:03 "I should gather stone for once and future town centers"
I see what you did there.
Trivia time: Heavy Cav Archer is another unit line tech that reduces the creation time.
I thought that Eagle Warrior was another tech like that, but in that case the change in creation time happens automatically when you advance to the Castle Age. This is probably a holdover from the days when you couldn't produce Eagles at all in Feudal...
YES!!! I've been waiting for a crazy concept like this! Hype!!!
Hey could you make a video on the 9x civ bonus mod? It's like the 256x tech in that its chaotic but it only applies to civs unique stuff.
Do goths recruit at x20 the normal speed? And japaneses have *3 attack speed?
I've found one that is 10x civ bonuses, it gets pretty crazy. Basically everything that can be applied ten times can, so Mongols' team gets +20 LOS on light cav line, Aztec monks get +50 hp per monastery tech, etc. It can take a while to be updated, so the new stuff from the last patch (such as Teutons new armor in Castle and Imp) isn't in as of now, but yeah it can lead to some fun stuff
Them the AI would get the high civ bonuses too
Tatamumu Yes goths are pretty ridiculous because huskarls are created instantly at the barracks with 25 pierce armor and they are free.
Great dedication to make subtitles for the whole video, instead of using a speech to text. Great video 👍
20 minutes in, light cav *teleports through entire map* : Nothing personal, kid *proceeds to destroy 3 castles with one hit*
I'll never forgive the developers for not naming the cheat code "to 256 and beyond"
This man plays at the speed of the AI itself, so it's like an AI with the mod vs 7 others without 😂 superb gameplay 🔥👌🏼
You know, I was trying to fall asleep to this. But thinking back on it---
it's moments like 39:00 that made it impossible.
"Good workout of your working memory to refresh your lumber camps..."
SOTL have you read Peter Carruthers' work on his theory of the mind?
27:03 that female vil is a legend
"Was thinking about which civs..." Japanese + supplies.
Spirit: *picks chinese*.
Who are you...
This would be a big challenge for me. Great video!
SoTL researches husbandry, bloodlines, scale barding armor, and forging 50x as Seven Nation Army starts playing in the background.