I like to throw the loop to the outside of the turn so I can reach down with my index finger /hand as far and fast as needed to help/direct/support my horse. Also the way I learned it. Like you thoughts. Keep it up
I appreciate it and I will keep spouting any nonsense that comes to mind so donut fret. As far as inside to outside in my experience swapping the loop to the outside causes the rider to shift weight in a way that inhibits forward propulsion while swapping to the inside does the opposite. There is a time and place for the weight being either in or out but that is a whole video on its own.
Thank you. I’ve had people make fun of me by handling my mecate that way. Doesn’t make me any difference. Dad taught me to do that. It’s part of my gospel 🙂
I'd love to hear your opinion on martingales. To eliminate that massive movement with your hands, if you use them or not, why. And some of the pros and cons like increase leverage and teaching the horse to talk their had earlier on And some of the pros and cons like increase leverage and teaching the horse to Tuck their head earlier on. Thank you very much.
I have never been a big fan of a martingale. I went through a phase with them like everyone does but I seemed to only creat more work for myself later on. My biggest trouble with them is that some day you have to take them off and then you wonder why you put it on in the first place because now you have to teach the horse to frame the head and neck without it just like you were going to have to do before you put it on. Second I ride outside a lot and not much in an arena so its something to get hung up in brush etc. The worst thing about them is you run the risk of rotating the last vertebra in the spine (I can't spell it and won't try but you can look it up). Using mechanical force to frame the neck puts a lot of pressure on that particular joint and it is the last join to fuse. It fuses at 6 years of age and I have yet to find one that took me 4 years to teach to frame by hand without the aid of a martingale. Once that joint is rotated the true potential of the horse is lost forever. More horses than you think suffer from this, almost every horse you see that jumps into the trailer rather than stepping in. In the end it has just never been worth it to me except when trying to teach a horse to brace on my hands. I don't mean that as a joke, you can't train a Thourobred to run with out a martingale and a lot of three day eventers need them for balance.
@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Thank you very much for your reply. I had no idea about the joint issues. However, I or I only use Martin Gayle's for a minimal amount of time in the first year. With the Indian hackamore. Teaching them to flex and yield to pressure.But I never throw a leg over until after there's 6. Once I saddle them, I only spend 3 days in the round pen. After that, it's all real world, and I have run into the brush issue. That is not fun. I love the videos and plan on picking up some of your books I. Especially appreciated. The ones about Is vaquero tradition
@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Well, I don't. Break up anymore. And it's really important to get more than one opinion on it. That brings the grand total up to 2. I think it's better to have it and not need it than is to need it. Not have it as far as training, but not for use in real-world scenarios.👍😀
@@davidhomen6204 I got to thinking about it and decided if I did three rides in the round pen then off to work on a six year old in an Indian bridle I might like one as well.
The loop is for when the colts starts bucking he can't take your reins, if you don't do the loop the colts starts to buck he'll take your reins away and throw you forward.
@@jaquima36 my overalls? I got them from tractor supply and pig farmer hats come from stetson and are called "open road " but you have to whip a loot off dogs and stuff your head in the mud fixing water gaps to get the real pig farmer look..
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt heck no the hackamore set up. You can’t look like anything other than what you are even dressed lug a pig farmer! Is it one of those bosals you had In Oklahoma? Made by the guy in Lakeview? Name escapes me….Jack something
@@jaquima36 glad I still look like what I am lol. yeah, I had this one in OK it's the Bill Black, he is outa Lakeview. Still have the Jack Armstrongs too, not sure where Jack is located these days, think he got a place and is rawhiding full time
I’m anxious to start using this method on my horse when the weather warms up a bit this week..thanks for the lesson! 🐴
hope it helps, it does for me.
Very informative and well put thanks for the video
Thanks
Iv been doing it wrong all these years . Would l9ve to see a video on those lead changes . Very impressive stuff sir
Funny!
I like to throw the loop to the outside of the turn so I can reach down with my index finger /hand as far and fast as needed to help/direct/support my horse. Also the way I learned it. Like you thoughts. Keep it up
I appreciate it and I will keep spouting any nonsense that comes to mind so donut fret.
As far as inside to outside in my experience swapping the loop to the outside causes the rider to shift weight in a way that inhibits forward propulsion while swapping to the inside does the opposite. There is a time and place for the weight being either in or out but that is a whole video on its own.
Thank you. I’ve had people make fun of me by handling my mecate that way. Doesn’t make me any difference. Dad taught me to do that. It’s part of my gospel 🙂
Damn Stick Horse 🐎 😂❤😂😂❤😂 Horses are a lot smarter than we give credit ‼️💯🙏🙏 Thanks Brett for the basics buddy
glad you liked it.
Good one
I always learn something. Some little. Some a lite bulb moment.
well im glad of that
Right on.
Thanks.
you're welcome
I'd love to hear your opinion on martingales. To eliminate that massive movement with your hands, if you use them or not, why. And some of the pros and cons like increase leverage and teaching the horse to talk their had earlier on And some of the pros and cons like increase leverage and teaching the horse to Tuck their head earlier on. Thank you very much.
I have never been a big fan of a martingale. I went through a phase with them like everyone does but I seemed to only creat more work for myself later on. My biggest trouble with them is that some day you have to take them off and then you wonder why you put it on in the first place because now you have to teach the horse to frame the head and neck without it just like you were going to have to do before you put it on. Second I ride outside a lot and not much in an arena so its something to get hung up in brush etc. The worst thing about them is you run the risk of rotating the last vertebra in the spine (I can't spell it and won't try but you can look it up). Using mechanical force to frame the neck puts a lot of pressure on that particular joint and it is the last join to fuse. It fuses at 6 years of age and I have yet to find one that took me 4 years to teach to frame by hand without the aid of a martingale. Once that joint is rotated the true potential of the horse is lost forever. More horses than you think suffer from this, almost every horse you see that jumps into the trailer rather than stepping in. In the end it has just never been worth it to me except when trying to teach a horse to brace on my hands. I don't mean that as a joke, you can't train a Thourobred to run with out a martingale and a lot of three day eventers need them for balance.
@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Thank you very much for your reply. I had no idea about the joint issues.
However, I or I only use Martin Gayle's for a minimal amount of time in the first year. With the Indian hackamore. Teaching them to flex and yield to pressure.But I never throw a leg over until after there's 6. Once I saddle them, I only spend 3 days in the round pen. After that, it's all real world, and I have run into the brush issue. That is not fun. I love the videos and plan on picking up some of your books I. Especially appreciated. The ones about Is vaquero tradition
@@davidhomen6204 If it works for you go for it.
@HorsemanshipAsAnArt Well, I don't.
Break up anymore.
And it's really important to get more than one opinion on it.
That brings the grand total up to 2. I think it's better to have it and not need it than is to need it. Not have it as far as training, but not for use in real-world scenarios.👍😀
@@davidhomen6204 I got to thinking about it and decided if I did three rides in the round pen then off to work on a six year old in an Indian bridle I might like one as well.
Like that wall, actually I like all that stuff hanging on that wall 😁. Good info, really enjoy your videos. Keep it up. Thanks.
Thank you
That’s the way I was taught as well.
The loop is for when the colts starts bucking he can't take your reins, if you don't do the loop the colts starts to buck he'll take your reins away and throw you forward.
fair enough
Any relation to the Davis s out at the Alvord
No sir
No R in mecate.- other than that, this is a great video.
colloquial pronunciation
I’m really striving to find something to disagree with. No luck so far!
@Rider63, just keep watching, surely I won't disappoint
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt you haven’t yet but you should send me that setup!
@@jaquima36 my overalls? I got them from tractor supply and pig farmer hats come from stetson and are called "open road " but you have to whip a loot off dogs and stuff your head in the mud fixing water gaps to get the real pig farmer look..
@@HorsemanshipAsAnArt heck no the hackamore set up. You can’t look like anything other than what you are even dressed lug a pig farmer! Is it one of those bosals you had In Oklahoma? Made by the guy in Lakeview? Name escapes me….Jack something
@@jaquima36 glad I still look like what I am lol. yeah, I had this one in OK it's the Bill Black, he is outa Lakeview. Still have the Jack Armstrongs too, not sure where Jack is located these days, think he got a place and is rawhiding full time