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Yes, these are all of the right questions. We should not be intimidated by these people. It is a cover-up.
It's such an obvious cover-up. How can they be so brazen and arrogant to perpetrate such an obvious cover-up right out in the open, right in front of our eyes? The US is becoming more and more corrupt every day. If we tolerate this corruption, it will keep getting worse and worse because they will know they can get away with it.
These people claiming Trump attempted a govt takeover are worse than the Qanon quacks.
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@@lincolnkarkari3210 what? What is zero
How long will an oil based makeup withstand friction from my underpants in various daily activity models? Or did you mean political cover-up?
I was a federal employee for 22 years. Every year we got trained in records management and told that there would be fines and jail time for non-compliance. Somebody needs to be charged.
That’s what I thought
The fines and jail time is obviously a threat and not real when a Trump judge gives probation.
I work in federal IT contracting. The idea they accidentally lost this data is laughable.
exactly i manage a city's record's program and the same holds true here.
The truth is out there somewhere.
First, in recent time, we have lost all trust and respect for the Supreme Court, and now the same for the Secret Service.
YOU SAID IT !!
Why would I ever respect a court that legalized oppresion from day one. Welcolm to reality.
Don't forget the fbi and their handling of whitey Bulger and epstein and the CIA and rendition torture programs.
Everyone that Trump the traitor installed to do his bidding should be removed from office. Period.
See what Trump Did and tried to do make us dought every government agency, so when he gets president again he will position all his yes men,and nobody will question it
If James Murray had any honour, he would resign. As he hasn’t, Biden should fire him. He should be investigated as a Trump accomplice.
But he did, effective Oct
Fire Murray!!
Honour? Trump goons? Really bet on a losing horse! They ALL thought this was going to work! Real bad bet! Dems watch. And wait for the reps to hang themselves. And they will!!! VOTE BLUE 💙💙💙💙💙💙
A Trump toadie like James Murray can't have honor.
Anything going on in your country?
Fire them all and start over. The agency is corrupted, exactly like scotus. Everything t***p touches turns to crap. I sure don't want to pay their salaries.
Me neither
Scrotus
Ah yea but only the wealthy and corporations don't pay. The rest of us.... pay and pay and pay. That's the American Way eh? :-)
That's it exactly, everyone around trump pays for his criminality. He never does and I believe he will never pay for any of it. His children and grandchildren will never live him down
@@selftaopath The old rump told us he doesn't pay taxes cuz he's "smart".
Negligence is not a defense.
James Murray needs to be called in to have a required sit-down with the Jan 6th congressional committee. He has some explaining to do.
Every legal expert on this network has said that the secret service did nothing illegal and didn’t do anything with malicious intent.
he should be taken to gitmo and waterboarded. he's a traitor to the USA. Obstruction of justice on a matter of treason might as well be the treason and get Murrays text. all for four years.
a crime commited could Not Be More Obvious.
@@TheRealCrimdor ever heard of the CFRs, trollski ?
@@TheRealCrimdor incorrect
Well done Lawrence! 👏
As a recently retired Federal Executive Administrative Scheduled employee I can attest that it is a well known protocol that ALL official records are mandated to be retained based on the classification level of the records. We were regularly audited by internal and external auditors for compliance.
So yeah, this was not incompetency but is malicious intent of a cover-up. So at a minimum the director and the connected agents who had a hand in the cover-up should be jailed as an example. A new director should be appointed to clean house to rid the agency of all the bad actors. I had lost all confidence in the Secret Service to do it's jobs effectively and objectively.
Perfectly said. On a side note, people are serving life sentences for less.
Yes we all know. Murderers in jail should not be there very long. We have seen what your da's have done to our cities. SF DA is gone. Los Angeles next and Florida DA gone. Nobody should be in jail except the republican leaders right? Democrats should be able to run for office everywhere unopposed right?
Bingo. Let justice be served.
Search title "A life sentence for $20 of weed? Louisiana stands out for its unequal use of repeat offender laws."
@Neal Johnson Yes, life sentences for repeat controlled substance offenders is the reason for my statement
Thanks to Lawrence for calling out James Murray. He has to be called under oath to answer for his conduct.
The Oath means nothing where money and power are involved.
All of DC are criminals, you're focused on one guy?
🎯
@@Longtack55 The oath does mean something - not that Murray won't lie, but if he is caught out in a lie while under oath then there are at least consequences (well, there should be if the DOJ does it's job).
@@Longtack55 to the REDS especially.
Lawrence speaks it like it is. He's a critical thinker and excellent communicator. His power is his ability to speak the truth with an unshakable belief and formidable fact-based arguments.
Calmly speak the truth
I love this! I've been saying all this on my social media but I don't have the platform. I told every young person I knew in my area to please vote when tRump ran. I told them if he won, their lives were going to change in unimaginable ways...and here we are.
He is "old school" in being a concise and clear speaker, Like the '60's--'70's Huntley and Brinkley. He differs in that he's not giving news headlines, but laying out some facts. As always ( but not apparent in old school broadcasters) it is a the facts that he chooses to bring up that showed his liberalism . It's a , say, limited "bias" ; weakened as he builds a case based on truth . That's fine by me . Conservative media creates scenarios that get people high by raising blood pressure. Crisis made by liberals , reported and created (but "what if") by conservative media.
👍👍👍👍👍😎
He also worked in the Senate and co-wrote some episodes of the "West Wing" t.v. series. When Lawrence Locks onto something he sticks with it!!!
The Secret Service has lost credibility over this incident that it will never recover. An incident like this has cover up written all over it.
Omg yes
I am so grateful that the American media still has such intelligent and decent human beings as Lawrence delivering us the truth. We need more Lawrence’s!
Murray must held legally responsible! He should be charged and indicted for destroying confidential government documents!
I'm with you, lawrence ! This SS might be irretrievably ,but in any event ... it must be suspect from here on !!!
United States Secret Service Director James Murray Announces Retirement effective July 30, 2022
@@shirleyferrill1941 Really...? Trying to avoid prosecution?
@@shirleyferrill1941 "congratulations agent Murray job well done!"
@@shirleyferrill1941
I wonder when he began looking for a new job and when he submitted his resignation.
That Secret Service members were willing to purge texts that they knew by law they had to preserve suggests that they calculated it would be better to face the fallout for deleting the texts than the fallout from whatever was in those texts. - Prof. H.C. Richardson
Facts
EXACTLY! Considering the context of all we now know, it would take less than two kilobytes of nefarious communication to have any number of no-knock warrants issued for any number of Secret Service agents. Yeah, better to drag it out in court for 5 or 10 years. Establish citizenship in Venezuela. Maybe end up with a MAGAt-stacked hung jury!
Exactly
Especially when the so-called fallout would amount to nothing.
True and note how they are pushing past that, so as to look heroic, protecting the VP. Remember Pence did not trust the service.
As a former federal employee who has taken part in investigations, I cannot fathom any way in which this could legitimately be an accident. And I was nowhere NEAR the level of Secret Service. It just makes absolutely zero sense.
Been a detective since 1976. Rest assured that there will be more than one SS agent that comes forward to tell the truth about what went on during the erasure of the texts/emails.
I’d bet my many years of experience on it.
And I’m REALLY old!!
Hello 👋 Kristi. How are you doing. Hope everything is fine over there with you.
I was a migration specialist for many years. Heres the difference between backup, migration and factory reset ...
Migration
• Migration ONLY occurs when the data is moving from one device to another.
• A backup is taken pre-migration
• Migration is completed
• Migration is checked
• Backup is retained for several months and then deleted
Backup
• Either part of a migration process
• Or when no migration is needed (such as user left)
Factory Reset
• If the phone must be erased and fully reset. (Examples are password lock, and user gone)
• Only done after the device is not needed or after backup/migration completed
None of this is accidental! People should be charged and fired.
Very helpful -- informative and presented in a way that helps us digest that info quickly and efficiently. Thank you and kudos.
Very well explained. So..the secret is they were all protecting a former guy?
My speculation: Texts between Trump SS, Pence SS, and the war room. That would show intent and coordination. You migrate a whole device. Succeed or lose random data. Lost data is fixed by re-migration. This is intentional.
@@loyi-kyong An extremely corrupt former guy at that.
Great job with this segment, Lawrence and writers. Bravo! Murray needs to be in front of a grand jury immediately.
And take in his license so he cant do more harm in the future.
Why did President Biden, not replace him? I thought he had purged everyone from trump world.
This is the reason why a functional and objective media is Central to a democracy. Good work Lawrence.
@@Elena-rt9yu Pence would need support from Congres and i think, given how deep many already sunk in the swamp and might end up being complicit... they wont back Pence and will go on to cover up and distract with insane actions. We are not talking about honest people and some might even have other issues (Epstein or whatever) and dont want it to get revealed, if the one who would fall, definitely will drag them down with him.
@@hughgraham6587 Agreed. Social media already sanction audience if rhetoric becomes dangerous for the country... Gov should do the same with the media, to protect the country. Gov being unpopulair already, now look very weak and incompetent, loosing more trust. Gov should also debunk all attacks from official (who took an oath!) immediately.
Thank you Lawrence. While so many are looking at others, you reminded us there is a bigger problem we need to keep an eye on. The Secret Service is a big problem!
How can this guy still be runing the Secret Service when he obviously comitted a crime and covered up others ???
They didn't lose it.
They knew how to purge it and did so in bad faith.
Kops do this EVERY DAY and the Press looks the other way.
Let's hope they stay on this Dirty Kop story!
It's called a DoD wipe or a government wipe.
Exactly, why is everyone afraid to say this? Just say it!
Agreed cause it should remain on a server for two years.
NO SANE Person believes a word the Secret Service is saying re these missing texts…Pleeeaase!
Those employees must go infront of the committee and testify under oath as to why and what was on those texts that they were not backed up
meanwhile Remember: joe biden moved them all Away on Day One..
James Murray and the rest of the people who used to work for the SS will lie regardless of whether they are under oath. Fascist coup plotters don't obey laws.
Annabella, if those Secret Service agents and their Director were willing to intentionally delete those texts after being ordered to preserve them, don’t you believe they’d LIE UNDER OATH to shield their content in an effort to “protect” Trump?
Because THEY ABSOLUTELY WOULD!
@@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 Whom he moved away?
@@ThePoppinger I think ole "jorge" is sniffing the glue again...
Journalism at its best.
I am in my mid 70s and in all my life I have never been so impressed.. and grateful!! .. Mr Lawrence .. for your work.
Thank you. Take care sir. Watch your back.
This is what happend when you dont purge the gov't to not look "political"
Regardless of whether or not anything nefarious is happening with these texts someone needs to clean house at the secret service. This is not acceptable.
There is NO QUESTION that ‘nefarious’ describes these actions/inactions! Ignorance etc is Not an excuse under the law for you & I, surely it should not be for seditious, lying, fascist authoritarian lovers of tRump!
Boot them out with no pension.
Bidet should have cleaned house the moment he got into the WH!
We need a whistleblower at the Secret Service, and a housecleaning to be sure.
Yeah to be safe just disinfect everything organzation trump touched.
So Trump attacked the Secret Service for not participating in the insurrection but also the Secret Service was secretly behind the insurrection. Makes sense.
LMAO!!!
@@peterbills4129 Sure it does. Unless you're incapable of understanding that every agent doesn't need to be in on the plot. And incapable of seeing that Trump going to the Capitol was risky and unnecessary. Grabbing Pence and taking him far away would work just fine. Then he couldn't certify the election, and Senator Grassley could step in and stop the certification. He has already said the day before that he expected to be in that role. He already said he didn't think Pence would be there.
You can do this and still have agents unaware of the plot and still doing their job protecting POTUS and VPOTUS.
@Norma Condlin yeah, I totally agree. If these officials are found guilty of breaking the law they should be eligible to loose their pensions and go to jail.
Whoever "purged" their texts, they themselves need to be PURGED!
Lawrence O’. Very, very well done so that a 5th grade School kid could understand. Hopefully, we will get an apples-to-apples response Hearing! Maybe best ever researched collecction of evidence by any NBC reporter. You are top of list this week!
I hope these traitors within the secret service are rooted out and brought to justice.
If this is 100% true, it sounds like it might be time to clean the slate and rebuild the entire Secret Service from the bottom up. They MUST remain politically neutral. Period.
It might be time to... drain the swamp :D
Sorry. From the Top down my friend
Why? Why for the ss but not politicians? They've deleted stuff and you didn't care.
I agree people need to go but I would like to see some consistency
These SS guys are in with the bricks. They are made guys so don't mess ok.
The Roman pretorian guard was prosecuted and replaced after they killed Caligula
Loyal to the country or loyal to a man - if they allowed by these texts to be destroyed, the secret service has prioritised loyalty to a man over loyalty to their country.
= treason is what that is called, right?
“Donald Bone Spur” criminality just keeps rising to the surface of the cesspool.
To paraphrase Trump’s early election call, the swamp needs to be drained, but not just of crooked politicians, but also crooked civil servants.
If it were even possible for agents to delete documents that law required them to preserve, it must have been BY DESIGN.
And this is just another reason why I love, Lawrence O'Donnell...
Me too!
Hello 👋 Judy. How are you doing. Hope everything is fine over there with you.
It still amazes me how many people put their career or lives in jeopardy trying to coverup for this reckless man child
A reckless manchild? You're being far too kind. DJT is a straight up sociopath.
That's what cult leaders do. It's like they cast a hypnotic spell on their followers. No amount of persuading will snap them out of it. They have to wake up to it themselves before deprogramming can even begin.
rumpt is an insult to men and children
Cohen talks about this phenomenon. He says it was like being under the influence of a cult leader. Some people are masterful manipulators.
Its not that they support him its about white supremacy.whether they know it or not they are doing putins work.
So now we know why Mike Pence refused to get into the car with the Secret Service. He needs to be questioned about that, whether he wants to or not.
Hello 👋 Ann. How are you doing
Thanks Lawrence for this information! This is issues we imagined but you remove all doubt!
Lawrence gives voice to our national conscience.
He is simple invaluable
Like our contemporary Walter Cronkite
@@theodoreolson8529 Absolutely!! Couldn't agree with you more.. Lawrence, Chris Hayes, Mehdi Hassan are the only that I really do trust the most.. Chris Hayes the other day CUSSED ON AIR!! Never heard him ever do that.. Plus, he's a Progressive..
Pity there is no one actually listening to it though
This guy is an evil reporter …
Absolutely absurd that this happened. Secret Service needs complete investigation and people need to go to jail.
People definitely need to go to jail but the SS should NOT be allowed to investigate itself. The whole department is suspect and should be fired. It's obvious that oaths are a joke to Republicans. Their holier than thou protestations are sickening.
No a different agency should investigate SS...maybe the RCMP Canadian Mounties?
"Wipe my email server? You mean like with a cloth???" _--Hillary "Crooked" Clinton_
The problem is there isn’t enough time before the midterms. After the midterms, the senate will be held by the GOP. Then all the Jan 6 committee will be disbanded.
@@deborahdonnelly8423 Biden will also be impeached.
The Complexity of All the Treasonous acts is Unbelievable! All Traitors must be held accountable to preserve our Precious Democracy!
They had to have considered this and determined that the flak from deleting the files was far less than the consequences of having them subpoenaed.
An organization Losing evidence or records is not an accident.
Yeah, Leo, not as tight an agency as the Secret Service. It was not a mistake or a 'my bad' moment, it was deliberate.
Especially when that organization specializes in retaining/recovering data. There is no other reasonable explanation other than a coverup.
Exactly! Every "alphabet" organization in Washington undertakes after action reports of major events. This definitely qualifies as a major event. Many people in the organization had to go over those missing texts. Someone knows what was communicated and they all should be formally questioned about this historic crime.
of course not, but an astute 6th grader could probably retrieve them 😏
@@sheilalopez3983 it smells fishy to me 🤔 they knew!!
Glenn Kirschner said that the Secret Service has more sophisticated methods of retrieving text data than Quantico. If texts are gone, it was not an accident.
yeah this was not a routine device migration or clean sweep, forensics tools were used to completely obliterate that data. knowingly
This corruption is endless. Absolutely everything 45 touched is attached to a greasy fuse with a spark nearby.
@@lf3541, I like the way you put that. Please keep speaking your mind!
@@lf3541 Isn't it amazing how one brutal narcissist can cause so much damage and stress in so many lives for so long???
@@leehaelters6182
Thank you for the lovely compliment, Lee. ❤
Forget " under oath", this crew is a bunch of liars. Put them on a lie detector and send their butts away for good.
When public employees feel they are no longer accountable, they are a threat to democracy. When Secret Service agents are no longer apolitical, they are a threat to those they serve. A top to bottom shakedown is necessary.
Lawrence puts his finger on the heart of the matter once again. Excellent.
Yes. Lawrence has been slowly growing on me. I like his style.
Good night and good luck
The questions are easy. The ANSWERS r even easier!!
@@joeb4142 Same!
Nailed it, again! Lawrence should be up for a prize.
Murrow Awards remember those?
Yeah someone should make him a tube steak dinner!
@@jm1459 Actually the dish is a MAGAt-only delicacy requiring a MAGAt master chef behind the trailer park barbeque grill for sure. You should already know that.
@@jm1459 Aw!! Poor baby magat 😂😂😂
@@beeeb7747 see you at midterms,lol
I have heard, dozens of times, from geeks and techs and "computer and network geniuses", that nothing is ever "gone"; deletion is never complete; there is always a trace, a trail...a copy of all things digital.
Why, therefore, are text deletions a problem?
Thank you, Lawrence. Now is not the time for timid reporting. Now is the time to name names, which hasn't always been done in America by the reporters. Good work. Kudos.
As usual, Lawrence explains these happenings wisely. He’s got a deep understanding of the processes of government,and understands people. He is the best for this.
The electoral college needs to go. One vote for each person. This is true democracy and the only way to insure that the mass amount of people are heard.which harms absolutely no one.,then politicians would have to work for the people and speak to the people not those special interest groups in whinny enrich their pockets:
@@sylviarucker4658 The problem then is that politicians will only serve the cities and most densely populated areas and the rest will be ignored. It's a difficult one
yet he follows the DEM gov't script that the messages are gone as if backups are never made in IT depts.... that there aren't dozens of IT staffers in on this and hardly capable of resisting investigation, for starters, the rich, powerful, masters of the universe like Lawrence would never give them a penny to hire the attorneys needed to stall their subpoenas and testimony, as they are just geeks, good for getting you back on the internet after you clicked on some stupid email and got your computer infected by russian bots.
@@jimmyrecard5056 that would not be right nor would it be beneficial to the country. However, the way it is now is not democratic or fair because no one listens to the people and the politicians go along with party. Why can’t those politicians in those smaller states fight for their states which they do not do as of now. The politicians need to work for the people they represent. I do not believe that as u mentioned will be a bigger concern as u nay expect. Because the senators and politicians of whatever state needs to work for those people instead of special interest groups that feed their United pockets. Not to say that special interest groups will not still be a problem but it would only be according to that state and not country wide. The corruption as it is with the parties is beyond ridiculous and obvious. Yet we fight over party and this is not the issue. I only know what I would like to see the country become. I want as much fairness and equality as possible. How that is achieved can be done quicker as easier if politicians voted into office work for their state. No person (at least on Utube) has even expressed what they want as a republican or a democrat. They just complain about what they don’t like or disagree about how justice is served and who receives that justice. I do not exclude myself in being guilty if the same. It has to be a better way of this chaos being lessened and the only thing I can think of is one vote one person. In all elections. Local as well as state and country. Politicians have to be made to work for the people of their state and not themselves. Do u know of any other way to accomplish this goal so that the buddy buddy system can be eliminated and they stop playing political games with our lives while becoming filthy rich. Because as it stands now this is just the beginning of total chaos and destruction of the entire country and maybe many others as well. Greed, power and prestige is a very dangerous adversary and it needs to stop.
@@russell7489 The recovery isn’t the issue, deleting them in the first place is
Lawrence hit the ball out of the park again. Love how he does it!
Mr. Lawrence O’Donnell, you’re research and journalism is incredible!
If he's found guilty please do not hesitate to...
"LOCK HIM UP!"
"LOCK HIM UP!"
"LOCK HIM UP!"
Etc.
Lawrence O'Donnell is my favourite here on MSNBC. He isn't afraid to speak Truth to Power and I love the way he calls Donald tRump "The Stupidest Man in America" every night!
I love Lawrence! I've been very impressed with MSNBC lately. Mehdi Hasan, Chris Hayes, Ari Melber, Nicole Wallace, Elie Mystal, Zerlina Maxwell and of course Lawrence are the best in the business.
@@christraeger5090 I like all of them too... it is unfortunate that they work for corporate media though. They all hold punches in calling out just how corrupt most of our politicians are and how beholden they are to corporate, big monied, interests that conflict with what most people want and need.
I too used to say the same until he went soft on the Ukraine war - now I don;t watch him much any more
@@christraeger5090 No doubt about it - they're a first class crew!
plus he has experience as a prosecuter and a white house operative...
More members of the criminal cabal. This is a very important description of what we need to learn about from DOJ and Jan 6 Committee investigations. Thanks Lawrence.
cactus - There is a large landfill near my town. The smell is awful. Looking at this nightmare is like going thru the landfill piece by piece and finding more and more decay.
What happens when your 'fellow Americans' think it's a good idea to elect a known career criminal to our White House! Yes. They're all criminals!
Can't say enough about Lawrence...he is the best!
God Bless...
The Justice dept. needs to collect those phones and retrieve those text messages. James Murray needs to be prosecuted.
Lawrence you nailed it
It was informative. Although, I still don't understand all this about texts; maybe it's SS protocol, I don't know. For example, in the middle of the Jan. 6 chaos, I'd be calling my colleague(s) to take Pence away, not texting. Anyhow, with or without texts, SS agents in question should talk before the committee.
Fire every agent that purged their phones. Bring Murray before Congress and Jan 6th Committee. Whatever happened with those 2 guys that were pretending to be agents for a while? This has Trump and Putin written all over it.
Not only fire them. Shame them publicly as well. I want their names plastered all over the media. So they can’t find jobs again.
Did everybody get collective amnesia about General Charles Flynn and his refusal to send troops and then they lied and said he wasn't on the phone call then the military said he was on the phone call and then he got promoted to a brigadier general? The brothers Flynn also were friends with the capital policemen who were suicided and part of the planning
@@ALT-vz3jn so they should starve? They need jobs
@@jjohnson6514 starving would be good for these traitors.
McDonald's is hiring, brush up on your Hambuger knowledge.
Great Program, great coverage of USSS HQ James "Jimmy the Boss" Murray and his phone.
They need to come up with the text messages or be fired and put on trial
Tony Ornato should be tried for treason and spend the rest of his life in prison for deliberately deleting text messages.
But but but Hillary's emails...
AMEN!
Save money, assign Ornato as TRE45ON's SS 'protection' in prison.
2 birds, 1 jail cell.
Trump probably thinks Tony Ornato sings "Tie a Yellow Ribbon".
Every Trump appointee needs to go.
👍Yes!
Including the members of the courts
Every one of them should have been turfed out after 20 Jan 2001. All Biden had to do was delegate the task. He is asleep at the wheel.
Along with the entire Republican party! We can do it, vote blue every election until they're gone!
Yes but the Dems are too weak and passive to do anything aggressive like what you suggest. I now have no regard for either political party in the US.
Awesome reporting Lawrence 👍❤️🙏
It was willfully done we just need to know who and prosecute. Sounds like James Murray needs to hire a lawyer.
Congress should pass a law stating "there is no statute of limitations regarding crimes involved with insurrection, Treason, and terrorism."
who is the terrorist now I am so hungry that I can' think anymore! The gas prices are killing me.
@@claudiaib1960 we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Just because many people are taking advantage of a bad situation through price gouging, and should be held accountable, let's not try and change the subject as a distraction from the fact, a very real, physical and armed attack against this country occurred. And those people too need to be held accountable.
how come civil disobedience is acceptable for the left and not the right?
@@mikedaugherty5501 because this wasn't to change some PDs. It was to keep a man in power who didn't belong there. The Jan 6th insurrection went against everything that this country stands for. It is the most anti American thing done by Americans since the civil war.
@@mikedaugherty5501 what the right did was not civil disobedience….it’s a violent act of treason in a coup attempt.
Brilliant segment. You expressed exactly the problem and what needs to be done. Drag them all. TY
It’s time for a special prosecutor to look into all this and everyone involved should go to prison
So the first of 3 emails was sent in December telling them to preserve emails regarding an event that had not yet occurred? That's not strange.
The Secret Service is more concerned about protecting the former president (and themselves) than the current president (to the extent that we should be concerned about their willingness to protect the current president).
Looking from out side the current president should get a seal 🦭 team in as protection until it can be sorted out.🤔
I believe James Murray is part of the problem at the Secret Service. Most likely there may already be a contract on James Murray but not directly from Trump most likely from people in the USA billionaires club who donate the big money & do the real ordering of Trump & everybody else in the Republican party. Believe lieutenant Mark Meadows is a go between the USA billionaires club & Trump. Besides Trump goons in the Secret Service there maybe Clinton Administration Democrats also loyal to Trump in the Secret Service & ofcourse the Justice Department. It was Clinton who gave the USA Trump & his children & most minority people did not even vote. Believe the turning point was when her criminal investigation was opened up again concerning her strange emails about 17 days just before the big election. Looking for Bernie Sanders to get the Democratic nomination for President. Also believe the real people protecting mob boss & con artist Trump are not really from the Secret Service but are from the mob in the USA & other countries picked by Trump & were put into the Secret Service by Trump & so far are doing a good job especially on the golf course.
uh, these people just so happen to be the same group mike pence refused to get in a vehicle with...to make a decision like that, in those moments, its no question he knew a whole lot about where loyalties lay. absolutely biden shouldn't have them around.
Well duh!
GOP mafiosa familia value$
I absolutely do not believe that the secret service "lost" those text messages.
I agree! ..saying "lost " gives the secret service the benefit of the doubt, ...after asking them to preserve documents THREE times it defies belief! ..bring James Murray in for testimony under oath! ..definitely!
Trump ate them
I am sure that someone with enough ethics in the Secret Service made a backup of all those texts and that at some point they will appear.
This is a crime and Garland should be all over it,…grand jury , subpoenas ,charges, etc. if not Then he is not doing his job..
Donnie appointed another traitor. There's your problem.
The Orange Blob only knows traitors. It is a requirement to get in contact with him.
Yeah, Just like a Mafia Don, no one should trust a Rump appointee!!
Trump’s obsession with personal loyalty is juvenile, it’s one-sided, and it’s sickening.
True. And yet, in this circumstance, it seems to have served him well.
Only criminals think that way. An honest person doesn’t make their employees pledge fealty.
It's what trump and his family have always done and the way they treat people "Mafia family style".
@@GR46404 Never has he apparently been held accountable for his actions, question comes to mind is who has told DJT to ask for loyalty when he is an employee at the time of his presidency of this Nation?
His obsession with loyalty is also mob like, I hope they consider that if they charge them under the RICO act.
Imagine if this was Trump's intention all along. Send the crowd to the Capitol to force Pence out of there, so the counting of the the electoral college could be interrupted and considered null and void... sending the matter back to the states, who after months of priming, would send alternate electors loyal to Trump... and the head of the Secret Service was in on it.
This is rotten to the core. Those texts exist. In the age of the internet, NOTHING is ever truly deleted. They have to pass through a server.
This is deep sh!t... Thanks Lawrence for bringing to the attention of the public. Sure hope Merrick Garland has staff looking into this BS. God help this country!!
Snapchat messed up again. James Murray is retiring as director of the U.S. Secret Service after a 27-year career with the agency to take a position with Snap, Snapchat's parent company, as chief security officer. Murray will join Snap after his term with the Secret Service ends July 30, 2022. Now, he can't join Snapchat because of the texts that were deleted from January 6th Capital Insurrection 😂!! He's responsible for the lost texts. I wouldn't trust him with my security office.
I SINCERELY BELIEVE IT IS TOO LATE! THIS UPCOMING ELECTION WILL TELL US IF WE EVEN DESERVE THIS COUNTRY OR IF WE JUST LET TRUMP AND HIS MINIONS GIVE TO PUTIN OUTRIGHT! BELIEVE ME THAT IS WHAT HE INTENDS AND REPUBLICANS ARE GOOD WITH IT. MURDOCKS MONEY IS THERE AND HE HAS HIS LITTLE PIGGIES TALKING THE REPUBLICANS INTO THINKING PUTIN IS A GOOD IDEA!!
Thnx Lawrence for your outstanding coverage We the American people NEED you….
But wait, I just watched the Dan Bongino guy for the first time and he literally said he knows these people, man this guy Laurence getting old man.
@@stfustfu1871 Dan Vagino is awesome.
Yes Lawrence, America needs you....because we're running out of landfills to dump our garbage in.
British. “We” the people”?? Sad.
The US Secret Service has the best Cyber Recovery staff in the world.
Impossível. They knew it was important, then they were told to keep and deleted. No one delete stuff that isn’t incriminating. They all need to be fired all the way up that told to dele to the ones that deleted.
I was a Federal Records Manager at the VA for many years. Issue 1) Those text messages DO exist. Not only are they backed up daily, they are backed up again monthly. They are not old enough to have aged out. They are in a cloud somewhere. They are being suppressed and could be retrieved if they truly wanted them to be obtained. 2) Not only do federal employees receive training annually, but in this instance, they received additional reminders. They do NOT require specific dates. However, the employees didn't do the wipe-out of the phones, the IT Department under the command of the Chief Information Officer would have done it. The employees would have been required to just hand over their phones and been issued a new one if they were swapping them out. This happened at the Department Chief level. That's where the blame lies.
I agree. I bet Military intel can find that information quickly.
@@flockofone9214 The rot doesn't stop at the door of the military. The US is in peril right now. The Kleptocrats and fascists have been planning this ongoing coup (yes, it's still going on, look at the voting legislation and blatant voting suppression that GOP run states have introduced) for decades. The writing has always been on the wall. Not enough people believed it could ever happen.
Great information. 👍 I thought this was the case.
Well explained. I find it far-fetched that the SS can delete text messages whenever they want to.
👊🏾 If they needed to find a 10 year old text from me, that text would be found quickly! Why are they playing like these texts are gone forever? They need to stop playing us for simpletons. Those texts are NOT gone. I guarantee you someone has forwarded those texts or screen shot those texts and forwarded them on for "safe keeping". Whistle-blower, come forth!
Secret Service device communications ARE NOT private communications! They are governmental protected communications! BIG DIFFERENCE! The government owns those texts!
Which is why it should not be left up to the individual to ensure that the data is preserved. All governmental agencies should have systems in place that automatically archive communications such as SMS messaging and emails.
The decision to hide and say texts were deleted. We have CI’s internationally, really hold these individuals, n Secret Service to a subpoena. We have forensic ppl who could get the info
True, but remember, that's exactly what caused Trump to win over Hillary.
@@malevanor I'm amazed that they don't already have that capability.
It's weird that the secret service has one of the most secure radio communications systems in the world..... but they are using text messages?
I was always in awe of Secret Service. I believe in honesty & protecting the rights of people & have lost several RN jobs from testifying for patients over the mistakes of hospitals. I always thought the Secret Service people would not just protect our government officials lives, but would protect the sanctity of our Constitution. It appears I’ve been very naive about them.
Hello 👋 Cathy. How are you doing
Everyone needs to watch this.
Power corrupts absolutely and that goes for the secret service too.
The trump cult is deep.
I doubt that there isn't ANY aspect of the US Government - big or small - THAT HAS NOT BEEN CORRUPTED by the Orange Blob.
Investigate & LOCK ‘em up!
Too dangerous not to!
The Secret Service already had a bad reputation with booze and women prior to Trump.
Absolute Power was Clint Eastwood's thriller about a corrupt Secret Service. I hope this installment ends as badly for the ones that deserve it.
I wondered what was up with the SS. Now that it's clear that the director is a Trump appointee, everything, including incompetence and deliberate destruction, makes sense. Murray has some 'splaining to do!!Thank you, Lawrence!!
I love that you abbreviated Secret Service to “SS”…very apt under Agent Orange Trump.
@@PeGaSus230 🤭Yep!!
Get him OUT!
Wow!!! that was riveting. Go, Lawrence, Go!
Outstanding investigative journalism, Lawrence, and excellent opinion piece with clear, well-thought through analytical conclusions. Thanks!
Hello 👋 Jill. How are you doing. Hope everything is fine over there with you.
All I can say is, that the world needs more journalists like Lawrence O'Donnell.
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@@dontrump9362 only bots put on a bunch of emojis because they think it bothers people, but you've overdone it we are immune to it, only a 10-year-old would put on emojis like that or a bot
So called billionaire Trump charged the secret service millions to rent golf carts and pay to stay at his hotels. He was republican so the emoluments clause does not apply to him.
O'Donnell is an intellectually challenged conspiracy theorists. At least the right has evidence to back up their conspiracy theories. Like--I just saw ten videos of Ray Epps commiting actual sedition crimes on January 6, yet he was never charged with anything, and people in the crowd were chatting "fed fed fed" at him as Epps told them to "go into the Capitol". I realize that the NYTimes has decided that the theory that Epps is a Fed agent provocateur is a conspiracy theory, but at least there is some engaging evidence to back that theory up. O'Donnell's low IQ theory has no evidence. But I'm sure the NYTimes won't question it.
@@donaldrobinson214 you need to take care of your TDS issue.
I find it insane that the Secret Service is charged with finding the things THEY purposely destroyed. I am so angry.
Right?! How is it in their hands? It's like having a murder suspect in charge of case evidence
High time for DoJ to dig into DHS.
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This is the same Secret Service that is charged with protecting the President & Vice-President. Who is protecting Biden and Harris from the Secret Service?
A very good point. Garland is sitting on top of this pile of BS. He does not seem to have much of a spine. Whenever he is interviewed he looks like a rabbit in the headlights. Not someone with the get up and go to deal with deliberate hiding information vital to a criminal inquiry, which is itself a criminal offence. Garland must go and Biden needs to have another agency carry out the clean up.
Those communications had to be preserved by law, before it became obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence.
There's the saying, "A businessman as president will run the nation like he runs his business."
- Unfortunately, all of Trump's businesses were dismal failures!
This is a freaking *BRILLIANT breakdown* of the deleted Secret Service texts, the related issues, and all of the nuances involved.
Let me be perfectly clear: The context involved elevates the situation beyond mere violation of some dusty archival law to *aggregated treason* and *aggregated seditious conspiracy* against the United States of America - if such enhanced charges can exist due to lives lost as a result of the insurrection and related crimes surrounding Jan 6th. If they did not believe lives would be lost before January 6th, they absolutely knew lives had been lost afterwards - and they committed these crimes with full knowledge that they were covering up critical evidence of felony crimes which had resulted in loss of life. This is just like aggravated burglary or aggrevated bank robbery. I.E. if someone dies during the commission of a felony, even the getaway driver can be charged with that murder and the aggravated bank robbery.
Therefore, the DOJ and the DHS IG need to be leaping into the most aggressively intense and rapid investigation of *everything* mentioned in the amazing piece of journalism and any additional related matters that investigation uncovers. By this I mean executing immediate search warrants, seizures of possible evidence in offices and in homes, detaining individuals who are obvious suspects involved for the express purposes of conducting the most intense sort of interrogations if those individuals.
This is just as urgent as any murder or assassination investigation.
And yes, after they are questioned and released, a subpoena should be sitting there waiting for them to testify before the January 6th Committee.
Well said!
VERY WELL SAID. TOO BAD IT WON'T BE DONE
I think Merrick Garland's head is spinning! There's so much to prosecute and so little time before the midterms! Democrats need to show up like we did to vote Trump out! 🌊💙 Vote blue in 22!
NJ
Note: not meant as reply, trying to swipe !
However, thanks to Lawrence for this information and his clearly stated comments.
great explanation Lawrence, I hope Garland is listening and acting soon, because time is running out.
Thank you as always Lawrence, I adore you!
Thank you Lawrence . This issue is the key to everything. If the SS was involved in the coup attempt it any way it blows away any thing revealed so far. This man and others need to be put under oath so the American people can rest easy about their future role in our nation.
Snapchat messed up again. James Murray is retiring as director of the U.S. Secret Service after a 27-year career with the agency to take a position with Snap, Snapchat's parent company, as chief security officer. Murray will join Snap after his term with the Secret Service ends July 30, 2022. Now, he can't join Snapchat because of the texts that were deleted from January 6th Capital Insurrection 😂!! He's responsible for the lost texts. I wouldn't trust him with my security office. By the way, Snapchat's specialty are texts that delete after 24 hours. Go figure 🤔.
very powerful presentation by Lawrence. kudos.
For the first time in my life, I am starting to understand why countries don't recover from dictatorships.
Vote Blue. No matter what vote blue or you will lose your democracy.
Russia and China never have
Although I take your point, that's not entirely true. Italy and Germany became dictatorships in the 1930s although the context was different. In the setting of WW2 and the defeat of the Nazis, Germany reestablished a democracy as did Italy but it was the defeat of these countries that helped the re-establishment of a democratic system, at least in part where Germany was concerned and not the whole until 1989 with the the demolition of the Berlin Wall
US Secret Service on Jan 6, Milishous NO, just Sloppy governance and lack of protocols being followed. + Texting is NOT typically their style/form of sharing information.
We need to have those text messages retrieved. The American people need to know.
Hello 👋 Sherry. How are you doing. Hope everything is fine over there with you.