Nikon Z fc Review - Did Nikon get retro right?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 2 года назад +146

    Never mind the camera, this is worth watching for that amazing winter alone! Wow, is your patch of the world beautiful!

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 2 года назад +12

      It gets old, really quick.

    • @snagra71
      @snagra71 2 года назад +9

      Trust me. It hurts. It's not fun.

    • @ArturoTabera
      @ArturoTabera 2 года назад +3

      @@scottslotterbeck3796 It gets cold, really quick.

    • @SaxonSuccess
      @SaxonSuccess 2 года назад +2

      They've got Trudeau though. That kind of takes the shine off...

    • @jameshuang3898
      @jameshuang3898 2 года назад

      You don’t want this, trust me 😂

  • @siewyuk
    @siewyuk 2 года назад +79

    Only Canadian reviewers can feel build material quality through their mitts. True talent! Thanks for braving it for the review!

  • @maricello13
    @maricello13 2 года назад +59

    Someone probably already commented this, but on the other Zs (and D750) you turn Auto iso on and off by holding the iso button and spinning the front wheel. No need to customise anything for that 😊

    • @artsilva
      @artsilva 2 года назад +5

      obviously!
      The Z fc is a totally different design layout. It is of the old school manual dials of fundamental SLR cameras of the past. The argument is that if Fujifilm can put "auto" on their dedicated printed ISO, Aperture and SS dials, why couldn't Nikon do it?!
      Yes the is a M/A/S/P/Full Auto switch for Manual, Aperture, Shutter Speed, Program, Full Auto [for dummies]... but they left out ISO priority or a way to mix and match on the physical top plate.
      With my Fujis I sometimes quickly switch to Aperture Priority by moving my SS and ISO dials to Auto and just control my aperture ring while I have previously set limits to my auto SS and ISO for when I switch into A priority for street photography for instance.
      Nikon could easily do this and I hope they do in the next iteration, heck they have the excellent matrix and center weighted metering for it.

    • @EdwardMartinsPhotography
      @EdwardMartinsPhotography 2 года назад +1

      @@artsilva It's just poor or incompetent design. The other thing that really bothers me about the Z system is the complete lack of any kind of manual focus distance scale anywhere. Other than those issues though, the Z's are brilliant.

    • @artsilva
      @artsilva 2 года назад

      @@EdwardMartinsPhotography Keep in mind, the Z fc is a smaller brother of the Df with the same dial design which I said that I wish they would have implemented Fuji's auto settings. However the Df is the only modern "Retro" body that will accept EVERY F lens made including the Pre-Ai... but I digress.
      The Z lens design is quite typical of all mirrorless lenses in Focus-by-Wire focusing. It would cost more to have G series type focus override or a clutch like the original 14, 16 and 23mm Fujis which I think would be Awesome. This is what's keeping me from FULLY transferring over to the Z system. I'm still using my G series on the Z via the FTZ and it's quite good.

    • @matt_mkv
      @matt_mkv 2 года назад +2

      @@EdwardMartinsPhotography I dunno, I came from Fujifilm cameras and using the front dial for the Auto ISO toggle was intuitive to the point where I just assumed it was the front dial while holding the ISO button and it worked. One of the things I enjoyed the most getting a Z6 after only ever owning fujifilm cameras was the user interface and how intuitive it felt to me.

  • @BusyZyoung
    @BusyZyoung 2 года назад +16

    I love my zfc. It really brings back the joy of photographing for me, especially with its lovely shutter sound. Great walk around camera.

  • @phillipmaguire4671
    @phillipmaguire4671 2 года назад +31

    I have a Zfc camera and to me it is a very capable "weekend" camera, where I can take it with me anywhere, without having the feeling of doing a serious photographic "assignment" as such. Fun to use, bringing back enjoyment of photography for me. Using dials for the most part, instead of sub menus. Knowing I will have great results. It can not and should not be compared to something like the Z6 or Z7, as they are for a different use. It is a great camera to use, bridging the inadequacies of a phone camera and the complications of a fully pro camera. Nikon do need to release a few more Z mount DX lenses to make the experience complete.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic 2 года назад +2

      Description of a Fujifilm camera 10 years ago

    • @FauxtakuLounge
      @FauxtakuLounge 2 года назад +4

      @@unstanic Except that it autofocuses and likely doesn't need firmware update after firmware update to be viable against contemporaries.

    • @FART-REPELLENT
      @FART-REPELLENT 2 года назад +1

      The ZFC is one of the WORST cameras Nikon created. Given a choice between a brand new ZFC or a second hand Nikon F2 I would go for the F2 any day.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic 2 года назад

      @@FauxtakuLounge I never had issues with not being viable. I was curious about the ZFC's autofocus, as indeed this is Fujifilm's achilles heel, but I was surprised that they said in this video it is only marginal better, given that the Z series have great auto focus. Most likely they didn't beef up this camera as necessary.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic 2 года назад +1

      I think indeed it sucks a bit. No auto iso? Tiny little screen for f-stop (wtf)? Cheapo plastic and battery door? No lens options? This seems just like an alpha version product and everyone praising it seem to be exciting early adopters. Coming from Nikon this should be a better implementation from the get go.

  • @Joseph-iu6ip
    @Joseph-iu6ip 2 года назад +59

    Good review. I have been using a Z fc for 5 months now alongside my Z7 and I also have a lot of older DX lenses that the Z fc works well with using the FTZ. It has become my main walking around camera and it’s just fun to use.

    • @tylerwhitney
      @tylerwhitney Год назад

      Older nikon DX lenses are compatible with the Dfc?

    • @Joseph-iu6ip
      @Joseph-iu6ip Год назад

      @@tylerwhitney yes, with the FTZ I use all the lenses I had with the D5500 on my Zfc.

  • @FramesTM
    @FramesTM 2 года назад +36

    Tiring to repeat: Viltrox has 3 APSC primes (35, 50, 85) + Z mount has 40mm f2, 28mm f2.8. A 26mm pancake is on the way. These are all full frame lenses that allow one to use it on both APSC and FF bodies. Did I say it's a fun and a beautiful camera? Cheers!

    • @FramesTM
      @FramesTM 2 года назад +5

      Absolutely need and want the FF version of this camera with Expeed 7.

    • @SparxNet
      @SparxNet 2 года назад +8

      Correct. Also, these lenses are priced far more economically and have incredible value for money for the image quality they output (certainly, the Nikon ones). Ideally, the mount should be opened up to third party lens makers but there's an understandable reticence that Nikon has in this regard. A major plus point NOT covered here is the USB-C charging capability while the camera is in use. Oh, and let's not forger that it's the first ever mirrorless Nikon with a fully articulating screen.
      For people complaining about the old-school ergonomics, there are 3rd party grips (if you're not living in Asia, where there is a Nikon one available) - you can have old-school looks or modern hand-grip ergonomics - not both.

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft 2 года назад +4

      You shouldn't buy full frame glass for APS-C though, you pay more, carry more and the result is softer than the same glass on full frame. Native glass should always be used no matter the sensor format. You can put the $1200 Nikon 10-24 F4 on the Zfc and I'll put the $899 Fuji 8-16 F2.8 on the X-S10 (same price, has IBIS and tons of other upgrades the Zfc lacks) and my IQ will be better every time. Then again, the Fuji 8-16 is better even when you put the 10-24 on a full frame camera but still.

    • @SparxNet
      @SparxNet 2 года назад +1

      @@Vinterloft Why do you say that FF glass is softer than APS-C glass when used on APS-C cameras ? Is this an empirical observation or something more technical ?
      Buying FX Nikon lenses while owning only a DX camera is a choice (not everyone needs to opt for it) - it also allows for a seamless "upgrade" to FX.
      :-) I see your Fuji "preference" shining through here just like my own one for Nikon. Yes, Fuji has the upper hand in a number of lenses and the mirrorless ecosystem as do other manufacturers because of Nikon's late pivot to mirrorless. But the Z lens ecosystem is developing consistently and giving very, very good lenses at decent price points (not cheap, certainly, but not expensive either). All in all, the people who buy this camera won't be disappointed with it or the images it produces.

    • @FramesTM
      @FramesTM 2 года назад

      @@Vinterloft That would be true for lenses that not designed to resolve 45 megapixels. But these FF lenses are designed to go with Z7 and Z9. Check back on my channel I will soon upload.

  • @rafaeldelauz
    @rafaeldelauz 2 года назад +23

    The Zfc has a key advantage over the Fuji system, this camera is part of a system were FF cameras and ASPC camera share same lens mount. Fujifilm is a more complete system, at this time, but if you want ful frame you have to change brands. Nikon is avoiding that mistake.

  • @trueblack6760
    @trueblack6760 2 года назад +16

    Yes, Chris is right! Nikon need to add A mode in the dial.

    • @kamilpotato3764
      @kamilpotato3764 2 года назад +3

      They had a perfect template with XT series. Was it that hard to take best bits from it and improve here and there?

  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz 2 года назад +25

    Let’s see Nikon go all out with a DF2 that uses a Z9 sensor.

    • @ductrung3993
      @ductrung3993 2 года назад

      a full frame Z fc or a mirrorless DF2 is what we need

  • @safwathim
    @safwathim 2 года назад +8

    This entire video is a good test showing that these cameras work well beyond their operating temperature range. The Zfc is rated for only 0c in the low end. I’ve left my non-weather sealed fuji outdoor overnight and they also survive the cold fine. Cheap memory cards fail in the cold though!

  • @CarletonTorpin
    @CarletonTorpin 2 года назад +18

    All that snow makes for the quietest possible exteriors I've ever heard on video. Thanks to both of you guys for braving the wilderness in order to bring us this beautiful video review. :)

  • @bruderg9857
    @bruderg9857 2 года назад +3

    The Zfc needs the Smallrig plate to become perfect. You get an AS plate and a nice handle and the plastic battery door is protected, too. I have the TT Artisan 35 F9.5 which works perfectly.

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw 2 года назад +7

    One thing I should note regarding the auto ISO, on the FF Z cameras at least (and maybe on the Z50 at least), if you press the ISO button and move the front command dial, this turns on/off Auto ISO. You would have to go into the menus to configure auto ISO but that is a fast way to turn it on/off without having to use the menus.

    • @joekelly9369
      @joekelly9369 2 года назад

      i dont see why hes whining about it ... its right there on a dial , days of film you was stuck with whatever your film was rated at ,

  • @davothedon
    @davothedon 2 года назад +12

    The Z-fc should be good for adapting lenses to, which can be handy.

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ 2 года назад +17

    That’s some solid determination to get out there and shoot this in such freezing temps. And a Canon filming a Nikon… how taboo :)

  • @3sixty2degres
    @3sixty2degres 2 года назад +20

    I think the idea of the iso set on the dial being the lowest once on auto is a great feature, so once you know it, you set it to 100 before toggling the auto and boom

    • @geoffreybassett6741
      @geoffreybassett6741 2 года назад +2

      Agreed, I think that is a fantastic feature. To Chris's point though it should be an option that can be disabled on the camera.

    • @kingsamvisuals
      @kingsamvisuals 2 года назад +20

      @@geoffreybassett6741 It would make a lot more sense for it to be the highest.

    • @Alex_564
      @Alex_564 2 года назад

      If anything it should let the user choose which way it should work. I would think a firmware update can bring that option.

  • @stavros.fourfourianakis
    @stavros.fourfourianakis 2 года назад +13

    To tell you the truth the fact that with ISO dial when it is set to Auto-ISO you can set your lowest possible ISO is an advantage to me. This is how I use it actually. I am having it to Auto-ISO all the time and I am using the dial to set the lower possible ISO depending on the light. I use it in Aperture or in Shutter priority (depending on the scene).

    • @hello.itsme.5635
      @hello.itsme.5635 2 года назад

      Same here. I would want to have it any other way. It's just logical as it is.

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 2 года назад

      I thought of that as well, but honestly, for me it’d be much better the other way around - make the ISO dial set the *highest* allowed number instead. With that I could easily force the camera to shoot at slower speeds in A mode, or let it climb higher if I mount the telezoom, for example.

    • @stavros.fourfourianakis
      @stavros.fourfourianakis 2 года назад

      @@Ildskalli In my view the upper level can be set from the beginning (in the menu system - as it is already there in Auto-ISO settings), setting the higher ISO is acceptable for you, depending on the noise. So, you should only set the lower ISO value in order to ensure that you have enough light that hits the sensor (so, you have set the lower auto ISO value from the dial and the higher auto ISO value from the settings).

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli 2 года назад +1

      @@stavros.fourfourianakis
      Sure, it can be done on the menu, but not on the dial, which is what I’d prefer.

  • @kamikazekurt913
    @kamikazekurt913 2 года назад +2

    The zfc with the 28mm is a fun camera, my first foray into mirrorless. As a Nikon shooter in both digital and film, if a full frame zfc comes out, I will get it and start down the road of Z mount.

  • @joeaddison
    @joeaddison 2 года назад +10

    I highly highly highly recommend the smallrig accessory grip for the zfc like 40 usd and makes the camera feel so much better in my opinion

    • @faisalee
      @faisalee 2 года назад

      I got that! absolutely beautiful amd matches perfectly with the Zfc!

  • @ofmetalphilosophy4837
    @ofmetalphilosophy4837 2 года назад +8

    I decided to use MFT if I'm using a crop sensor. Smaller cheaper and ... numerous lenses!

  • @tuomopoika
    @tuomopoika 2 года назад +11

    Love the dials on my X-T4. I was trying out astro photography in similar temperatures here in Finland. It makes it was more finger friendly experience when you can wear mittens and still change ISO and shutter times.

    • @Mrz8723
      @Mrz8723 Год назад +1

      Astrophotography with an Xt4? I can’t imagine that body works well in low light.

    • @tuomopoika
      @tuomopoika Год назад

      @@Mrz8723 full frame would be better for sure.

  • @cheetahkid
    @cheetahkid 2 года назад +2

    I enjoyed my Zfc and using it as my daily uses. I do have Z6 as well as V3. I do have film cameras as well, Nikon F, F2, F3, F4, F5. Zfc reminded me in the old day that why I like it most. Can't wait for full frame version of it.

  • @btswilliam
    @btswilliam 2 года назад +2

    9:05 I think there was a typo. There's no Fujifilm X-S10 II at the time of this video.

  • @danivar86
    @danivar86 2 года назад +17

    I love this camera and I will be first in line when the FX version is released, regardless of price. I played with the Zfc in a local store and my only complaint, apart from being DX, is that the wheels felt a bit cheap compared to my Nikon film cameras.

    • @MeowjinBoo
      @MeowjinBoo 2 года назад

      i own an f3, and its heavy as fuck.

  • @psoon04286
    @psoon04286 2 года назад +42

    I caught on to the retro styling immediately when the ZFc was first introduced but was so disappointed to learn that IBIS was not in the specs list. I’ve grown to really appreciate the IBIS in my Z5 so was naturally expecting this ‘must have’ feature…….what a pity😔

    • @tielmaster7879
      @tielmaster7879 2 года назад +5

      Have a z50 and was also disappointed with a lack of ibis. However, none of my dslr had ibis and they were fine, as is the z50.

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 2 года назад +11

      IBIS is not very retro.

    • @rhietpas
      @rhietpas 2 года назад +1

      @@thisisbenji90 It's about having modern capabilities in a retro package. If you want actual retro you'd buy a film camera.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic 2 года назад +2

      @@rhietpas He was clearly joking... I think the main problem with IBIS is the ability to fit it into a small camera? But I agree, for video is a must have for these kind of cameras.

    • @psoon04286
      @psoon04286 2 года назад

      @@unstanic I was skeptical of IBIS when they first appeared nearly 2 decades ago. The early implementation was awkward and not as effective as the lens integral ones, but the one great positive was that regardless of what lens you use you’d have some stabilization. Fast forward to 2019 and I got my shakey, 70 yr old hands on the Z6/7 and saw the near miraculous results of shooting handheld at shutter speeds of less than 1/15 sec! Clips of video too were useable whereas in the past it would cause my audience to get sea sick🤪

  • @alainmonnens
    @alainmonnens 2 года назад +4

    I have been using Fujifilm since 2015, if Nikon would come out with a full frame version it would certainly be tempting.... I have had the Nikon Df in the past.

  • @chrismaster2002
    @chrismaster2002 2 года назад +10

    The Auto ISO behavior is the same as on my Df. They missed the chance to correct some of the weird concept issues . But same as Df for Nikon F the Zfc is a pretty nice camera.

    • @ziginox
      @ziginox 2 года назад +1

      My friend's D5500 also has the Auto ISO toggle in a separate menu option. It's not just a setting under the ISO setting, really threw me for a loop. Not sure why Nikon still does it that way.
      Really weird that it uses the ISO dial for the lowest minimum ISO, not the highest maximum like would actually be useful.

  • @matonmacs
    @matonmacs 2 года назад +6

    Nikon never filled out DX (APS-C) back in the F mount days. Is there any reason to think they’ll do that now in Z?

    • @justnoted2995
      @justnoted2995 2 года назад

      nah, a lot to choose from in DX format, and affordable

  • @mehmetdarendeli
    @mehmetdarendeli 2 года назад +1

    I use my Zfc with a SmallRig and Voigtlander VM lenses… if you are comfortable with manual focus, the camera becomes compact and even more fun… I wish they had built a Zf based on Z5… full frame and IBIS would have made this camera amazing for my taste.

  • @OneWeekGetAway
    @OneWeekGetAway 2 года назад

    Agree, Nikon is a Z8 and a ZF (full frame) from being my system of choice. Their lenses have been amazing and the Z9 and ZFC show what they are capable of.

  • @markstemmett5296
    @markstemmett5296 2 года назад +1

    Love my Zfc easy, light and takes me back to my first film fg

  • @michael-4k4000
    @michael-4k4000 2 года назад +2

    There are 3 main controls that is needed on every camera that has ever existed, Aperture, Shutter, ISO. So the question is why do camera companies make it difficult to adjust there’s settings.

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 2 года назад +3

    Great review after a few months of use.
    Im a Nikon fan boy so I have a Z6ii and I bought a Zfc for a get around camera and for my g/g to vlog with.
    I bought the Smallrig grip which makes it much easier to use.
    Like you say its a shame the ISO button does not have a Auto option.

  • @imagenatura
    @imagenatura 2 года назад +4

    I think I prefer the Olympus E-P7. It seems like a more attractive offer- has a lighter body, way more lenses and made for video too (unlike the Fuji lenses).

  • @mikele6458
    @mikele6458 2 года назад +1

    You can program Auto ISO to the record button. Add auto ISO to the top of the list in "My Menu," then have the record button be the item that is at the top of My Menu.

  • @UrbaneHobbit
    @UrbaneHobbit 2 года назад +2

    Fastastic production values as usual, guys. I can’t imagine how many takes it took to get the ducks to enter with perfect timing at 2:32. Hats off to the animal trainer

  • @ThomasPetzwinkler
    @ThomasPetzwinkler 2 года назад +2

    Agreed guys. I do use it as my primary filmmaking camera for RUclips because what it does, it does so well. Excellent video autofocus, great flat profile, really good auto iso etc. etc. Fuji is lacking in a huge way on all of those fronts. The DR is also higher than fuji as far as I can tell. So, in the end It's missing lenses and video features but if you hook it to the atomos Ninja V, you find its a very decent video head for a recorder system. Once again the lack of lenses are the issue. Thanks for another great video!

  • @paceyombex
    @paceyombex 2 года назад +3

    The main hindrance of the Z fc now is the lack of dedicated APSC lenses. But, at least it was a better route when compared to how Canon treated their EOS-M.

  • @NikonDave
    @NikonDave 2 года назад +3

    lol. Very enjoyable. I really debated if I wanted to buy this particular camera but I've found as a "Grab and Go" kit where I can put it and the the 3 lenses in a small bag and take off...It's really quite good. The 3 current Nikon DX Z lenses compared to their DX F mount counterparts are exceptional and the vibration control on the lenses is workable. Again, it tends to go out with me when I have no real objective and just want a small kit to have fun, it's very capable. The issues you brought up with ISO controls don't bother me...never owned a Fuji camera and I developed muscle memory quite quickly to get to the controls when I need them. (I almost never shoot auto ISO anyway.). Biggest thing I want in a second generation of this or the Z 50 is the IBIS. I think I've been spoiled by it and even using some of my better adapted F mount DX lenses I notice I miss shots because I shoot handheld at too low a shutter speed expecting the IBIS to help me out when it isn't there. Stay warm and maybe get those poor geese a round to warm them up.

  • @MB-dq2gz
    @MB-dq2gz 2 года назад +12

    Viltrox does a decent job of covering the APS-C lenses with normal range primes and Nikon compact primes 28mm and 40mm fit well with the body also. I unfortunately purchased a Z50 as a travel camera before hand and I am green with envy of the ZFc alas I can't justify getting one while I have a Z50, so I really hope they put out a full frame model on refresh it down the line!

    • @maxng3977
      @maxng3977 2 года назад

      I had a Viltrox 23mm f1.4 (eqv 35mm) too and I can say it is a great match with Zfc for my weekend causal activities. Auto focus is very fast and photo quality is beyond my expectation.

    • @kg22kg
      @kg22kg 2 года назад

      I have the viltrox 56mm 1.4 for my Nikon z50 and its amazing.

  • @ronboe6325
    @ronboe6325 2 года назад +2

    I picked up the Z50 (after looking really hard at the Fuji - sticking with one eco system was the main reason I stuck with Nikon). I hope/wish Nikon would come out with a semi-pro version of one of these camera's, with better build quality, faster auto focus, better weather sealing, while maintaining the smaller form factore (it's not much but it packs better for my use case) and still cheaper than a Z6II.

  • @ThisIsDavesGarage
    @ThisIsDavesGarage Год назад +1

    There is one thing the Z fc does better than Fujifilm...ISO performance and color and build quality. The Z fc is close in build quality to the Fuji, but the buttons, layout, dials and screen felt higher quality. I spent time with a Z fc, XT4, XS10, and XT30 II. Fuji color isn't bad, but Nikon color can't be beat, especially at higher ISO. Also, you can pair the Z fc with a 40mm f/2, 26mm f2.8, 28mm f2.8, 35mm 1.8 S, 50 mm 1.8 S, or even the kit 16-50 lens and 50-250 is great. Also third party options like the voigtlander 35 f1.2, 23mm f1.2, and almost a hundred more. The Z lens lineup is growing fast, and IMO, having owned many crop and full frame sensor cameras, the 20MP Nikon DX sensor is the best in it's class and IMO not even the R7 or XT5 come close to it's performance. No IBIS is not a deal breaker, the VR in the kit lenses are very good and can hand hold shots at 1/4 shutter and get usable sharpness. If not, just bump up the ISO and shutter and the ISO noise is still better than a Fuji with IBIS.

  • @JoeHoddinott
    @JoeHoddinott 2 года назад +4

    It is such a fun and capable little camera to use. I've found that the f/1.4 Viltrox AF primes are perfect mates for the Zfc.

  • @natedagreat90
    @natedagreat90 2 года назад +1

    You can also set auto iso by pressing the iso button and turning the front dial no need to go into the menu on the other z cameras

  • @JK-photo77
    @JK-photo77 2 года назад +1

    Would be great to see/hear a short video on the experience with adapting some old manual focus lenses to know what the experience is with focus peaking, etc.

  • @CharlieMoger
    @CharlieMoger 2 года назад +4

    What's an interesting comparison is the Z fc vs the Z50. Two seemingly similar cameras, but quite different to use. I miss the function buttons of the Z50 when on the Z fc, but love the faster auto focus on the prettier of the two. It may be me, but it seem the auto focus also gets a little snappier if I go to 12 bit instead of 14 bit. Anyone else seen similar?

  • @j16m02
    @j16m02 2 года назад +2

    I have zero interest in this camera, but DANG! -24 C? I'm blown away by you guys and your commitment. Impressive!

    • @problemat1que
      @problemat1que 2 года назад

      The CIPA rating of the battery probably halved at these temps

  • @RandyMoe
    @RandyMoe 2 года назад

    Love mine. I have many cameras. I bought the SmallRig grip with Arca plate asap. Essential!

  • @andyandy2731
    @andyandy2731 2 года назад +1

    Doing a review at -24C you are our hero!

  • @mickeyreasoner
    @mickeyreasoner 2 года назад

    We use our fc as a weekend camera when taking the 7 II and lenses in it’s big backpack is too much. As such we use the 16-50 primarily. For this use case, we don’t want anything more than a “pocket lense” - but while dx lenses need to be flushed out, we bought an fix F2 40mm, which stays small, was inexpensive, and gives us a faster option at the equivalent 60mm. Got to consider what Fx lenses can be applied to your use case when talking about availability

  • @danbuchman7497
    @danbuchman7497 2 года назад +2

    -24C equals +249K for those people living in the noct world!
    Great video and hey, the camera is nice to look at (wish someone had mentioned that). 👏

  • @AnthonyMarkSchellenberg
    @AnthonyMarkSchellenberg 2 года назад

    Viltrox Viltrox Viltrox. You mention hoping Nikon or third party manufacturers will support the Z dx, that would have been a great time to mention Viltrox. I have their 23mm f1.4 dx z mount auto-focus lens and it's wonderful. I also have their 85mm 1.8 which is full frame. Viltrox also has a 33mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4 dx in z mount and those look fabulous. Nikon does have a wide angle zoom dx z mount finally on their roadmap so that will help as well. I'm loving my z50 and zfc, using them both for some professional work. Thanks for the review!

  • @lsaideOK
    @lsaideOK 2 года назад +3

    I wouldn't hold my breath if you're waiting for Nikon to flesh out the dx lens lineup. They didn't keep the f mount dx lineup up to date. They expect that most Z fc users will stick with the kit lenses. This pushes those who wish to expand their kit to full frame which is where Nikon wants them to be.

  • @tallaganda83
    @tallaganda83 2 года назад +1

    I couldn’t even imagine -20 odd but man it’s stunning.

  • @Specializedfabu
    @Specializedfabu 2 года назад

    Ich hatte die Zfc für 6Monate mit dem 28mm Kit.Sie fühlt sich sehr günstig verarbeitet an. Man kann definitiv heute Bilder mit ihr machen, aber man ist wirklich sehr Objektiv eingeschränkt. Das was Nikon gerade nach und nach auf den Markt bringt ist Qualitativ (haptik) gruselig.Wenn APSC dann Fuji,einfach mal in den Laden gehen und anfassen.Ich habe nach 15Jahren Nikon ins Fuji Lager gewechselt.Und habe es nicht eine Sekunde bereut!

  • @OutRAjious
    @OutRAjious 2 года назад +1

    on paper the fuji xs10 would be the best option but just cannot deny the pop of the nikon images , they are so appealing ..
    could i get that pop out of the rather flat fuji?

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch 2 года назад

    I feel like you guys failed to mention if you liked the styling at all? Can you please do a follow up giving your thoughts about how it looks?

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 2 года назад

    So much fun watching this from Tucson, Arizona! Come on down boys! I think about half of your fellow Canadians are already here! 😎

  • @msg2pnt
    @msg2pnt 2 года назад +2

    Very good review. Congratulations once more. This is a really beautiful and capable camera. The only thing that concerns me is the lack of IBIS.

    • @OutRAjious
      @OutRAjious 2 года назад +1

      and grip … they should put the z50 grip onto the zfc and drop the z50

  • @TenTen-ns7pt
    @TenTen-ns7pt 2 года назад

    The lowest iso selected in the button while using the auto iso is very useful for low light with flash shooting (ie: in the room), otherwise, the camera will shoot with the lowest iso (base iso, for image quality) since the camera will think that the illumination is enough only by the flash, that will make the ambient light become mostly gone (black/dark).

  • @goldfries
    @goldfries 2 года назад

    I'm using the Z fc for my A-rolls - bought it for the flip screen, because the Z 50's screen flip downwards and doesn't work for me.
    So basically the Z fc replaced my D750 for A-rolls while the Z 50 does B-rolls.
    APS-C lenses is not a great issue, unless you're looking for something that has standard range and constant wide aperture (like 17-55 f/2.8 DX) - otherwise the 16-50 is a solid lens. Telephoto range is non issue, it's lacking on the UWA part.
    Just as what you said, consider the lenses. I'm using Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 ART with FTZ on the Z fc.

  • @michastanczyk5704
    @michastanczyk5704 2 года назад +3

    Why didn't you mention 28 and 40mm Nikon Z compact primes? They are really small, light and cheap - perfect of this camera.

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 2 года назад +1

      Right? Seems like they ignore those because they’re full-frame, but they’re actually not any bigger than Fuji APSC glass.

  • @eddiecarrasco878
    @eddiecarrasco878 2 года назад

    I think as an intro to aps-c cameras the Z fc is focusing on simple camera to carry around and you can do simple vlogs. I think of this camera as a simple everyday carry camera that doesn't take up too much space and is beautiful to look at.

  • @stuartmeador8993
    @stuartmeador8993 2 года назад

    Kept my Df... love it ... don't need mirrorless Nikon just yet.

  • @jumpydesign
    @jumpydesign 2 года назад +1

    The 4 little ducks following each other in slow-mo 😍

  • @andrewdavies2109
    @andrewdavies2109 2 года назад +1

    Great review, thanks! I don't agree about the need for a FF version as the priority. Surely they need to fill out the dx lenses, or give sigma/Tamron access so they can. The APS-C sensor makes a lot of sense in a hybrid due to the faster readout... So more APS-C lenses and a z fcv with better video....?

  • @Galeidan
    @Galeidan 2 года назад +17

    Now if Canon could make full frame RF mount digital AE-1 style camera with own prime lenses 24, 28, 35, 50 and 85mm (that look vintage, metal construction etc.) f 1.8 up to f 2.8. I'd be all over it.

    • @teamhazardous201
      @teamhazardous201 2 года назад

      That would be amazing

    • @cyrfung
      @cyrfung 2 года назад

      It seems it’s not possible or at least not easy to fit 35mm format sensor in a compact film camera design. Even if they could, modern expectation of lens quality would make the lenses much bigger.

  • @MaxRomantschuk
    @MaxRomantschuk 2 года назад

    Well done to Chris and Jordan for braving the cold. I was just out with my Z5 here in the Helsinki region for some winter wonderland shooting. And all went well until my aperture didn't keep up anymore and couldn't stop down fast enough. (Older adapted F-mount lens.) Ergonomics with mitts on are totally a thing! I've even bought separate hunting mittens that let you expose individual fingers, which seems to be a good option triggering other things than weapons. :)

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 2 года назад +1

    As for more Nikon DX lenses, I wonder if it is due to the fact that not many DX users buy more than 1 or 2 lenses, or is it that there are so few lenses to chose from?
    We are all wondering if Nikon will produce a z30 or a z90 this year, that may encourage them to make more DX lenses. There are some 3rd party ones, but most are manual.

  • @mydearriley
    @mydearriley 2 года назад

    I think I spott a typo! Unless I'm mistaken, I do not think there has yet been an "X-S10 II" released by Fujifilm!

  • @poniatowski3547
    @poniatowski3547 2 года назад

    cool camera and the only why I haven't bought one is just like you Chris I want a Z-ff! C'mon Nikon, give us a Z body styled on the F3!!!!!!!!

  • @cotswoldphotographers
    @cotswoldphotographers 2 года назад +1

    It’s a lovely little camera and agree with you about the leatherette plastic! 😂 I’d have thought they’d be copying the Z50 🤔 that said it’s not much different in my opinion to my X100v
    My wife has the Zfc and we both love it and she’s bought a fitted leather case which imo improves the feel and grip and adds protection for the battery flap! I sure the lens roadmap will improve however it’s never been on Nikons agenda even with the f mount so thank heaven for the third parties like Viltrox with the apsc 1.4’s

  • @PhilThach
    @PhilThach 2 года назад +5

    I enjoyed your review! The Z fc blows away the X-T3 that I used to own. It has better auto-focus for video and stills and it doesn't have that silly X-tran sensor. I think I may have been the first to come up with the auto-ISO shortcut idea. That is certainly something that needs to be improved and was better on my X-T3. Right now I use my Z fc for landscape work where its small size and weight are great for hiking long distances to a waterfall plus its lenses, while slow, are nice and light and sharp. Again great for landscape work where wide apertures are worthless. I use it the very most for vlogging. It is my number one video camera for my RUclips channel. Thanks to you two for always making great videos.

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove 2 года назад

    FF Z mount lenses on the ZFc makes perfect sense. If your ZFc is a second camera along with a FF Z camera or if you plan to move up to FF in the future. Fuji users are stuck at apsc forever or forced to buy all new lenses if they move to a FF system.

  • @stanobert3475
    @stanobert3475 2 года назад +1

    What is missing is the Z version of the Nikon 18-300. This would attract much more interest in the excellent Zfc.

  • @alanmurphy9263
    @alanmurphy9263 2 года назад

    I keep thinking about -24c, i got 6c and im too chicken to go out to shoot!
    Well done guys gr8 review

  • @daustonian9331
    @daustonian9331 10 месяцев назад

    How about a Megadap E to Z adapter and using Sony’s plethora of APSC lenses? I’ve had good luck with this on the full frame side and Lightroom even shows the Nikon body and the Sony lenses for all adjustments!

  • @TB-up4xi
    @TB-up4xi 2 года назад

    6:08 I can't fathom how you would possibly think this is a drawback. The Auto ISO on other systems (e.g. Olympus ) forces you to input both the minimum and maximum ISO threshholds in the Menu. Once you know how the system works it takes a fraction of a second to set the dial to 100 or 200 ISO before setting ISO to Auto in the menu - setting the maximum in the menu and minumum on the dial seems inifnitely more user freindly to me than say realising you want to set a higher minimum ISO for Auto ISO and having to go back into a menu - Kudos to Nikon for this feature!

  • @ChristianLink
    @ChristianLink 2 года назад

    good video - lovely snowy setting... I wish we would have some snow in Berlin.
    Good review of the camera, I'm planning to get one at the end of the month.
    Viltrox has made some really nice lenses, I guess I'll get the 23mm, 33mm and 56mm, too.
    I'm using a D800 mainly but it's a heavy, big beast and I don't want carry it everyday (anymore).
    So, the small & light Z fc will be my daily "always in my pocket" camera and with a FTZ adapter I can also use the "big lenses" (some Sigma ART lenses, etc.).
    I'll keep the D800 - it's still a good camera.

  • @ericthestone
    @ericthestone 2 года назад +1

    Definitely need to add a smallrig grip to complete the ergonomics of this body. The auto iso issue is annoying, hopefully they will address that with a firmware update, at least let us add to the i menu.

  • @brianaddison2828
    @brianaddison2828 2 года назад

    Zfc + 40mm f/2 Z lens = winner. Great review! Really informative. Some of the new lenses lost after the interview are really great for it and under 200 g

  • @robbybred5702
    @robbybred5702 2 года назад

    What a magical view! Absolutely beautiful back ground! I almost for got about the review enjoying the scene! Hypnotizing look!

  • @stephanweiskorn6760
    @stephanweiskorn6760 Год назад +1

    The ZFc is what the Z50 should have been but keeping PASM controls.

  • @darkdigitalroom1244
    @darkdigitalroom1244 2 года назад +5

    I'm so surprised how many camera reviewers don't know how to quickly toggle Auto ISO on Nikon cameras (excluding DF and Zfc). Just press the ISO button and spin the front dial.

  • @vasiliychernomorov1115
    @vasiliychernomorov1115 2 года назад

    @chris you're better at photos every time, @jordan - love your patience for Chris

  • @charruaporelmundo
    @charruaporelmundo 2 года назад

    A beautiful camera and they use Celsius!… a must watch video 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Combatpzman
    @Combatpzman 2 года назад +2

    What about the Z 28mm and Z 40mm primes? Seem like the perfect fit for this camera.

    • @robertfeliciano5723
      @robertfeliciano5723 2 года назад

      They got knocked for being full frame, since that adds size, weight, cost.
      But for someone like me with a Z6 as well, I prefer them.

    • @madst7521
      @madst7521 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, and you’d have an upgrade path to FF later.

    • @Combatpzman
      @Combatpzman 2 года назад

      @@robertfeliciano5723 Are they really that big and heavy though? Price wise they are about the same as the DX kit glass stand alone, don’t see the problem. I don’t see Nikon investing much into DX Z glass, doesn’t make much sense.

  • @davect01
    @davect01 2 года назад

    Stunning Winter Pictures.
    So glad I don't have to live in snow.

  • @bobjohnson9597
    @bobjohnson9597 11 месяцев назад

    They used to say the same thing about Sony lenses and as we all know over time Nikon will also increase their lens numbers and 3rd parties as well. Nikons full frame Nikon F though more expensive is out already with the same great looks

  • @SovietLensReviews
    @SovietLensReviews 2 года назад +2

    Nikon definitely needs a few more cheap and cheerful Z-mount APS-C primes.

  • @el-drk
    @el-drk 2 года назад

    Beautiful scenery, I wish I knew where they filmed this video!

  • @checksix_TC
    @checksix_TC 2 года назад +1

    Man negative 24°C! The kind of extreme weather to test a Pentax K3 III! 👌

  • @robertfeliciano5723
    @robertfeliciano5723 2 года назад

    Love the color, especially skintones.

  • @jonathonpye8980
    @jonathonpye8980 2 года назад

    Hey @Chris, any chance you can tell me what mittens those are you are wearing? I might be wrong but those look like the warmest flip open mittens I have ever seen.

  • @Honkus
    @Honkus 2 года назад +12

    If only a Z F (full frame) was on it's way with a normal flip up screen :D , the would be just wonderful ::D Still, the Z Fc is a heck of a camera, and I wouldn't mind having one as a second camera.

    • @FART-REPELLENT
      @FART-REPELLENT 2 года назад

      You would be better off using a fart in place of a ZFC

  • @juan_samuel9939
    @juan_samuel9939 2 года назад +1

    Love your video's, could you maybe do a shootout between the Z50 and the Fuji X-S10. I think that would be really interesting.

  • @numovie
    @numovie 2 года назад

    Jordan did a wonderful job with the audio in this one!

  • @jaybleu6169
    @jaybleu6169 2 года назад +2

    I have the Z FC and a Fuji, and don't understand the complaint about lack of lenses. Yeah, Fuji has a lot of lenses in APS-C format, but many of them are also expensive. I have all 3 DX format lenses he mentions in the review, and they are actually really spectacular. I also have the FX format 24-200, which is also great and covers 99% of my shooting situations. beyond that, the 200-500 F-mount works great FTZ adapter, so you also have the whole F range (except the ones that lack a focus motor in the lens, unless you want to shoot them as manual). The lack of such a zoom is actually the main thing that swings me from Fuji to Nikon. Fuji has no single lens that covers this range. The Viltrox primes for the Z are really nice, too, in APS-C format. Also, if you do want to shoot manual focus, you have basically every manual focus lens ever made that can be adapted and also work great with the Z FC.
    So, yeah... the FX lenses (whether Z or F mount) work great on the Z FC, and Fuji lenses are also expensive. There is no shortage of lenses for this camera. If anything, there's an overabundance, and you'll spend all your money on lenses if you don't watch out.

  • @МихаилКулагин-х3ю
    @МихаилКулагин-х3ю 2 года назад

    What's new in the X-S10 II (9:06)? (;
    Looking forward to the review!