Can I Fit An Entire Motocamping Kit Into a Small Dry Bag?
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Ben from @MotoCampNerd has thrown down the gauntlet.
He has challenged me to go camping with a motorcycle camping gear kit that will fit in a single 18 liter dry bag.
We're talking motocamping tent, moto camping sleeping bag, sleeping pad, pillow, ground sheet, and a cooking setup that can be squeezed into the confines of a @GiantLoopMoto Rogue Dry Bag.
Can I do it?
Let's run down the minimalist motocamping gear kit I've put together from the moto camping gear that @motoca@MotoCampNerd sells. Here's the complete list of small packing yet surprisingly inexpensive motorcycle camping gear that I'll be taking on my next motorcycle camping trip.
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Jetboil Flash Java Kit: motocampnerd.com/products/jet...
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Minimialist Motocamping Gear in this video:
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Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo Backpacking Tent (Complete Kit): motocampnerd.com/products/six-moon-designs-lunar-solo-tent-complete-kit/?ref=dork
Featherstone Moondance 25 Quilt: motocampnerd.com/products/featherstone-moondance-25-quilt/?ref=dork
Flextail Zero Pump: motocampnerd.com/products/flextail-zero-pump/?ref=dork
Nemo Tensor All Season Ultralight Insulated Sleeping Pad: motocampnerd.com/products/nemo-tensor%E2%84%A2-all-season-ultralight-insulated-sleeping-pad/?ref=dork
Sea to Summit Aeros Premium Pillow: motocampnerd.com/products/sea-to-summit-aeros-premium-pillow/?ref=dork
Jetboil Flash Java Kit: motocampnerd.com/products/jetboil-flash-java-kit/?ref=dork
This is, in my opinion, a great example of win-win sponsored content. Interesting subject matter, interesting gear, clear about sponsorship, and absolutely on-brand for your viewers. Nicely done!
Thank you. That's what I try to do.
Yep this is how sponsorships should be done. Love this channel
We appreciate hearing that as well. We all try to brainstorm video ideas that are a natural normal video so that Dork gets to make fun videos, viewers get to enjoy them, and our name gets thrown out there. It's like a moto community economy, and the goal is always for wins all around.
I love how Chewy is completely undisturbed that you are trying to do something.
Chewy always lending a helping hand
That ground sheet gives me an idea: A cheap alternative would be a shower curtain. Sure, everyone will laugh at you, but when they see how well it works, who'll be laughing then? Well, still them.
I always grab a shower curtains from the dollar store...1 for floor 1 for on top of a picnic table, or to cover my gear at night so no condensation
Genius picnic table hack there.
That’s awesome. Multi use too
Genius! Cheaper, less crinkly and should pack just as small. Tyvek's whole reason for being is that it's breathable, but that obviously doesn't matter for this application.
Clear polyethylene drop cloths in various weighs can be found in any hardware or home improvement store. Cut to size of your tent’s floor.
I've been doing the ultralight camping thing since 1970. I thought Colin Fletcher's Complete Walker book was the pinnacle of ultralight camping but advances in material science would have made today's gear look like magic to hikers in the 70s.
I've seen a few ultralight tents of a similar design because the designs are converging on absolute maximum efficiency. I've always enjoyed hammock camping (that technology has greatly improved too) but the older I get, the more essential it is to get off the ground to get a good night's sleep. I added two tiny poles, pegs and a Tyvek ground cloth so I can pitch my Hennessy hammock as a small tent for moto camping where there are no trees.
I didn't expect to do as much colder weather moto camping as I've done. Packing shelter, sleep systems and clothing for moto camping when it's freezing at night is a challenge. A friend and I are going on a three day moto camping trip tomorrow but nightly low temperatures will be mid 50s so I can take the very tiny summer bag, approximately the size of the quilt in this video. I fit everything into a 66 liter waterproof roll top duffel mounted as a tail bag, and that includes a generous 2.9 liter titanium pot because I like to do some actual cooking for dinner, and a large tool roll.
Be VERY careful about securing loads when moto camping. Moto Giant has forgotten more than I'll ever know about moto camping, and his sleeping bag fell into his rear wheel at 80 MPH, he high sided and he just left the hospital for rehab after a mid calf amputation of his right foot. From his videos, he's maintaining his spirits but that's tough.
Kudos to Ben at Moto Camp Nerd for curating all of these wonderful products for moto camping, and at a reasonable cost to boot. It's not easy to compete against Amazon in online retail.
On the Tyvek floor stick it in your dryer with tennis balls on low heat and just let it tumble it will take a lot of that crumble out of it
I’ve also seen to run it though the washing machine (w no soap) on cold, and let it dry. I did it, and it’s soft and normal. Tyvek rulz
I put mine in the washer. Comes out soft and not noisy at all.
Grand Total: $1,146.81 before sales tax and shipping
1. Tent & Complete Kit Price: $323.95
2. Quilt Price: $219.99
3. Pump Price: $52.99
4. Sleeping Pad Price: $199.95
5. Pillow Price: $54.95
6. Jetboil Price: $144.99
7. Giant Loop Dry Bag: $149.99
Sale tax at 8% is $91.74. After sales tax price is $1,238.55.
Hopefully, many of us would just need one or two of the items, and already have the rest. But this stuff should last many years. I gradually buy better stuff, starting out with cheapest available at first. The expense is less noticeable that way. 😁
Alternative Setup:
1. Paria Outdoors Bryce 1P Tent (3lbs 13oz) $160 (comes with footprint, rainfly, stakes, poles, and seam sealed)
2. Paria Outdoors Thermodown 15 Down Quilt $180
3. Tiny Pump 2x $40 (higher air pressure and has a light!)
4. REI Helix Sleeping Pad $169 (I've seen it on sale as low as $120, wait for sale)
5. Teton Gear Camp Pillow $25
6. Stanley Adventure Nesting 2-cup Cookset $25
7. SOTO Amicus Stove $46 or BSR3000t $17
8. Rhinowalk 30L Tailbag $90 or 15L/$80
Total $735 or $671 with lower cost items (less if the Helix is bought on sale). 8% sales tax on larger total = $58.80. GRAND TOTAL = $793.80. And all of it is good quality gear. Ben is great, MotoCampNerd is great, but so is a savings of $444.75.
Finally, more room for Beer and Brauts😂
Just buy what the ultralight hikers buy. Our "bike" kit has for years been a zpacks triplex (
Yeah, ive done some thru hikes and it's baffling watching these rtw guys with like 120L+ of luggage.
@@Shrouded_reaper to be fair, a decent portion of my motorcycle luggage is tools for the bike and a drone. But yeah, the essentials is just the same thing I use backpacking
It's good to see a video by a motorcycle guy using some of the staples of a backpackers load out. The backpacking crowd really has all this stuff dialed in and figured out. It always amazes me to see a video by a "hardcore ADV" guy with a $10-20k+ rig completely cheap out and camp with heavy, cheap, and vastly inferior camp setup. Usually from Amazon or Walmart.
You know what the cheapest thing on a BMW motorcycle is. THE RIDER! 😆 I'm guilty of this and my bike is a BMW 1250gs. It's definitely one of those things riders have to see the value in it. Tools of the trade.
I go the education route because as this motorcycle and adventure community grows, there are a lot of people who have never been camping getting out there doing it. Some riders just don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes with camping gear and how it's just as technical if not more so than the riding gear.
For most of us, there is a better trade-off between durability/comfort and size/weight. It’s one thing if you’re carrying your gear on your back, but even with things like kayak camping, if you’re not bearing the weight, you don’t have to go uber-light. Free-standing tents have advantages, for example, and slightly thicker fabrics hold up better to junk dropped from trees, or punctures of the floor.
Nice set up, I will definitely be checking some of that stuff out
On my electric bicycle I keep my tent (Mountain Hardwear Nimbus UL1, including ground sheet), sleeping matress, cushion and sleeping bag (all Sea to Summit) in a 15l Ortlieb frontfork bag. The kitchenware including food go in the second frontfork bag.
The nice thing about building your camping setup around a light or ultralight backpacking setup is that no matter how you get there, the same gear will work. Motorcycle? Check. Canoe? Check. Bicycle? Check. Car/truck? Check. Foot? Check. Motorboat? Check. You get the idea.
Amen
Great Video!
Looks like a winner set up, I'll have to call nerd.
Try putting the Tyvek through a wash dry cycle with some jeans. It will feel and sound like cloth, but it will still be waterproof.
Love Chewy!
Camp chair Hack: 55 gallon drum liner full of debris. It’s like a bean bag. Put a second one on top leaning against a tree. Now you have a lounge. 😆
love it
I use my hammock as a camp lounger and camp seat. That's how I eliminated the camp chair.
he is using a tent.
This was insanely good timing, as I'm scrambling to put together gear for a short camping trip in a couple weeks. I'm taking a dual-sport with minimal luggage and riding mostly dirt, so weight and bulk are very important...but I was really _not_ prepared to cough up like $1200-1500 for tent/bag/pad. So yeah, thanks!!!
I'm still kinda fuzzy on the 'quilt' thing (why attach it to the pad at all, and aren't the straps annoying?) but I imagine it will make sense when I see one.
Lighter and more packable has always come at a price. Gizmos are fun when they are free but at 67 I can still blow up my mattress without passing out. A good tent does not need a ground cloth but its nice when packing it up. Mineral spirits mixed with pure silicone to a olive oil consistancy makes a very good seam sealer applied with small foam brush. No more one person tents and sitting on a pad on the ground for me but I still like to keep it simple. There is no right or wrong way when it comes to camping. It is all about your comfort level.
Try packing for hot and cold weather 10-day ride for 2-UP. Now that's tricky! We use compression bags for our Big Agnes double sleeping bag system, 2 single Big Agnes Rapide SL pads, a Kelty Grand Mesa 2 (two-person) tent in a large 70L dry bag, and two Tusk 35L panniers. A couple crash bar bags from Nelson Riggs and a Tusk (questionable large-sized) tank bag. I use two molle bags mounted to the outside of the top bag for cooking gear and foodstuffs.
We do mostly 2up and need to do more videos on our setup.
That pump looks like a Star Wars droid caller!!
Hey Ben, you may already know this, but Tyvek becomes much quieter if you run it through the washing machine a time or two. Once it’s broken in a little bit, it tends to soften just enough to not crinkle.
Cram and jam the camping man.....nice job, Ben.
Really cool. I love it. (Pro to: If you don't want to mess with an air mattress and pump, make a depression in the ground (for your hip-bone) before you lay down the ground cloth and pitch the tent.
Great video dork...best part is Chewy supervising it all!
Well done! I’ve been eyeballing that Giant Loop Rogue bag; as if I needed another reason to look at it harder.
I think this is an excellent video. I know volume is a bit more important the weight when it comes to moto-camping but low volume and low weight tend to have a strong correlation when it comes to camping gear in my experience. I was into ultralight backpacking prior to getting into motorcycles and I'm very surprised at how little crossover there is when it comes to gear. I was never so crazy about it that I was weighing every item and being excessive. My setup is still pretty comfortable. I don't think moto-campers/BDR riders should be at a sub-10lb base weight when it comes to their gear. But I think that 15lb-20lb mark is pretty reasonable for moto-camping. But I'm also a camp to ride kind of person. I think there should definitely be more education when it comes to lighter gear and motocamping. After all, weight may not matter as much but any weight will certainly effect the handling of the bike and make it heavier to pick up.
I've enjoyed ultralight hiking, canoeing, bicycling, mountain biking, and kayaking starting in 1970. Now I'm ultralight motorcycle camping, but it's nowhere near as severe as modern ultralight hiking. Technology and material science have made camping equipment ridiculously lightweight.
Pretty cool setup! I bet it'll work good too!
C-H-E-W-Y !!!!!!!! Great small, lightweight set up Ben. Me likey. Thx for the great ideas, my wife will be SO happy I am buying more Moto-Camping gear. I do love her.
Very interesting, can't wait to see the campout video!
man yall need to look into a hammock its way better than a tent with half the size and work to set it up plus you dont have to worry about ground sheets or where you set it up to not get flooded when it rains its also really comfortable and great at keeping you warm for most of the year
Something not mentioned in this video, your shoes. Got a pair myself and they are amazing lol. Originally got them so I could just have something to slip on and off quickly to run outside then run back in...but now I just sort of wear them everywhere. - Shane
I love these things. I have 2 pair.
Lov it!!! Great job:0. Im ordering the pump NOW!!!
Glad you're on the mend my friend!
You and me both
love the air pump, thanks for the looks at the neat camp gear, we are Yerting it this weekend at South Beach so our camp gear will be very light. Chewy seems to be unimpressed:)
cool setup!!
That Flextail pump Dork is hard to believe, I need to get one! Thank you for sharing
Omg I took like 100lbs on my first cross country BDR trip and smoked my back tire on the 7,000 mile run from FL to ID and back! I didn’t even use 1/3 of what I took lol. Great stuff as usual!
I've noticed a huge difference in tire wear between a light bike with ultralight gear (my choice) and a heavy ADV bike carrying more stuff. I'm 7600 miles into a set of Metzler Tourance tires on my G310GS and it looks like I'll get 9000 to 10,000 miles. Big ADV bikes carrying more stuff get maybe half that many miles from a set of tires. I'm a hefty guy and I accelerate and decelerate like it's a motorcycle.
put the tyevak plastic in dryer will take wringle noise out
Loved seeing Chewy!
You got inside the tent on the wrong end. When you wake up you won’t like the condensation in your face because the fabric sags. That’s why I don’t use triangle type tents anymore anyway. I use a Tarptent Rainbow. It’s a little heavier but worth it.
Thank you for prioritizing size/volume instead of weight/ultralight!!! Motorcycle luggage capacity is measured in L, and it my Honda were _so_ underpowered that weight mattered, I'm already carrying 10 extra kilos everywhere lol could start with exercise!
TWSS 🤣 Also, good to see Chewie! Give him some loves from his fans.
No chair? Nope not gonna happen )))
For Summer camping I have gone out with a poncho and poncho liner. That would be less than 1/2 the weight and size you got there. Winter camping is another story.
Looks like a great set up. And Chewy.......
Very nice setup. The only thing missing is a cigar.... for Chewy.
love the pug. greatest dogs in the world, we have 2 called Barry and Brenda. great video
Great info Dork! Have you tried the mylar sleeping bags? They don't get much smaller than that. Looking forward to the next video!
You didn’t pack any food. We’re sending someone to check on the dog.😎
I did a thru-hike a few years ago and loads of other hikers had that Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo and every. single. one. of them complained about how annoying it was to set up. Many sent it home and replaced it with another option.
.33 “That’s what she said….” 😂
Gotta love that dog mate 😂
Have you tried hammock camping? Would like to see how you think of it.
Can't sleep on my back. Haven't found a hammock that's side sleeping comfortable at my size yet
I've been using a Hennessy Explorer XL for probably 12 years. I recently upgraded to the Zip (side entry zipper instead of the clever Velcro bottom slit) 4-Season (open cell foam in a pouch underneath in lieu of an under quilt) because I'm old and climbing up into the hammock and getting in and out four times a night was a hassle and I surprisingly was doing some winter moto camping when it's freezing at night. I'd now need a very thick mattress to sleep on the ground and crawling in and out of a small tent is now a huge hassle. I also use the hammock as a camp lounger and camp chair so that's one less thing I need to bring.
I’ll second the Hennessy Hammocks. I’m a side sleeper as well, not quite your size, but I’ve converted to a hammock camper unless there’s no trees.
Chewy is the perfect sidekick, He just needs a doggie trenchcoat. (Ben & Silent Chewy)
Cool concept- but I’ll go with a bit bigger and more comfortable. Not paying extra for light weight. Enjoyed the video.
Man what a tough guy
The dog in the frame does a great job ( alive or stuff since he did not move), but the tent is to small for me Alain & Yellow
Doing it right!
when you come to a Fork in the Road, pick it up and take it with you. a spoon and spaghetti may be up ahead
That dog steals the show. What breed is Chewy? A pug? I can never tell with those smaller dogs. Thanks. Going to order that tent. 26oz. That's amazing.
A very good option 🍻
Ultralight, small packing is all well and good, but I think Chewy would prefer an altra plush, large, red velvet armchair.
More Chewie content, please! And great video. Thank you!
I have a similar tent by river country. It has a mesh back well to help with ventilation. $56 I think. I’m a fan
$260 tent and they don't even seal the seams?!
This is actually at the cheaper end of ultralight tents. They can easily blow out to $600+
@@Shrouded_reaper Still...
I threw my tyvec sheet in the washing machine for a quick cycle and it came out almost soft and not crinkly at all
You should check out the Nemo Fillow, legit the best pillow I've ever used. Definitely kept me fresh and alert for when I was out at Get On ADV out in the Black Hills last year
WTF this Giantloop drybag is 150$, who buys that???
Dude, checkout Appalachian Trail thru hikers and their gear. They hike with packs that weight between 20 and 35lbs and they go for 6 months on just that 20 - 35 lbs......and that weight usually includes a liter of water and 4 days of food.
Chewy Rulz !!!
Sorry if I had to camp in that then I would never camp. You could just take a roll of bubble wrap. I prefer comfort and space. So I carry the kitchen sink. Each to his own .👍👍👍
Dogs can definitely eat blackberries. $260 for a dinky basic tent heh. Says it isn't a sleeping bag, shows it's a sleeping bag.
Nice opinion from someone who knows nothing about what they are making a comment about
"That's what she said!"
Run Tyvek in washer and dryer few times it will get quiet
A++
Nice video with Chewie’s help! Is the tent double walled or single? Thank you!
Mostly single but kind of a double at the bottom.
Did you just say $260 tent like that is "inexpensive?"
Chewy seals the deal.
I don't understand why "minimalist" gear is so expensive. I know that motocampnerd has some good value for the segment, by beef is with the segment.
I have that pump and wish it would do a little more pressure. They do have a little bigger pump that will do more pressure and also has a light. I may get that one
Yeah you're gonna have some tradeoffs for that small size. It does the job though.
You don't actually want your pad to be fully inflated. They are much much more comfortable and are way less prone to delamination when you dont inflate them fully. You should be sinking into the mat a little bit.
How does that vent hole at the top of the pole work? Is it going to allow rain in?
Nice compact setup. How much was that tent?! And they didn’t seal the seams?! Wow!
As you stated, you admit to being an over -packer. I'm not trying to lay blame but I do think there is an advantage to those that follow your channel as to why you think, in all the time you've been riding, what is the reason you generally over pack? Thank you...
i couldn't do the krinkly thing. But, cool set up.
My Xmid-2 is so much bigger and packs only slightly bigger.. If you remove the inner bug net its huge inside..
Great video. That looks like a great setup! Do have an estimate of the weight for the whole kit. Thanks!
Can't be more than 10 pounds, I'm guessing. I'll try and remember to weigh it before I go out.
Do you get allowances for water, a chair, and a couple camp meals?
Yeah Chewy 🐕
Hey dork in the road, always love your vids, thank you! I need your help. Ive been looking at the crf300l rally. This bike has so many things that i love like high svc intervals, fuel guage ect but i have 1 major consern. I weigh a little more then 300 lbs. Reolistically my offroad rideing would be limited to gravel roads or perhaps an open field. I know the bike is made to do much more but with a bad back i dont need that. But like i say i love the 300l rally for many reasons. So my question is this. For the rideing i intend to do beeing mainly street at my weight will i require a rear suspension upgrade? This bike used is right at the tipy top of my budget, so 700$ more for a rear shock i just cant do. I know it has preload adj, but is it enouph? Or perhaps is thier a cheep rear suspension upgrade i dont know about? Thanks so much for your content, i sure hope you have time for me.
Unsolicited advice - you could look into a used 300L Rally and get one that already has the suspension upgraded. You could also look into the YSS suspension I think they are much cheaper and are still a major upgrade over stock. Honestly you should get the bike and try it out. Even if the suspension isn't perfect for you it will still be rideable and you'll have a lot of fun. Upgrading later is always an option. Anecdotally... I have a 300L Rally and my offroad riding is similar with 90% of the time being on dirt and gravel roads. I'm 200lbs and the stock suspension is *very* soft, but it hasn't caused any problems for me so far. I'd say I'm at the absolute limit to not be bottoming out on big potholes though.
6:50😂😂😂😂
I feel like Chewie pooped in the footage and it was edited out, which is totally fine. Butt I have seen that posture a million times :)
How do you deal with ticks? That place looks like a tick paradise.
What would be your suggestion for a smallish packing comfortable sleeping pad? I’m currently using the exped megamat 10 and I think it’s the most comfortable but it is huge. I’m 5’11” 220 with back issues. I’d really like something smaller for 1-2 night camps. Also, I do have a widget.
This Nemo pad is pretty good and very small packing. I haven't slept on it yet but I'm optimistic.
I'll throw in the Sea to Summit Comfort Plus Insulated Mat Regular - Mummy. I'm 190 lbs, about 90kg, at 183 cm. It's pretty comfortable and has 2 layers of inflation so if you puncture, you still have a thin pad. The insulation is pretty good. If I know I'm going to camp I take this. If I may have to camp I take a thinner, lighter, single layer Berghaus mat.
Where around Massachusetts was this
Sleeping pads don't work with me, if I'm sleeping alone I turn into a very active sleep and tend to roll all over the place. That little air pump would be nice for getting a fire goin
I am a little over-cautious and bring just about all my gear except boots inside the tent. Any great ways to keep gear from getting damp, infested or torn up by critters, while outside of the tent? My jacket, pants and boots are too big to fit in my panniers or rackless.
The shower curtain over the bike/gear overnight is starting to sound good.
Use a silnylon fly of about 14'x14' instead of a tent - and it will take less space and be a bit lighter.
Then you, the bike, and your gear are all together out of the weather; pitch the fly shoulders/head high in good weather, use the bike as a ridgepole to pitch it low in ugly weather.
Emergency I can't find a hotel room setup. I'm 60 and like my sleep.
Chewie is the best host!
He's a natural. He's always facing the camera.
When do we get some 790 ADV videos?