I Bought the MacBook M3 Pro 14″ and Now I Regret It
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
- I've been using the Base Space Black M3 Pro 14" MacBook Pro for the past month and it's not what I expected.
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Appreciate the info from everyone. I didn't realize the M3 Pro has the same media engine (and only 1 compared to 2 on the max) which is why the export time was the same. I also underestimated the impact of RAM.
The M3 pro is way more energy efficient, that's the upgrade you've paid for.
the stutter most likely comes from the memomy bandwith, which was decreased in the standard pro chip. Thats why im opting for an m2 pro.
Apple doesn't make it easy. You have to get more cores to get a memory upgrade 36gb. 150GB/s memory bandwidth of the Pro chip is *bad*. M2 Max on the Mac Studio has 400 GB/s!!!
To be honest, the RAM should be the first thing you would want to upgrade. It's the first thing which significantly improves the speed of basically every task. Especially when you want to be future proof. The internal SSD's are much more workflow depended and don't really change the speed as much as the right amount (enough) of RAM does. Apart from that, when software is properly optimised over time, it brings a lot of efficiency and therefore speed to the table.
I absolutely agree. For the price of MacBook Pros, 32GB should be the standard.
Agreed. 16GB is not enough RAM if you’re working with heavy video. I’m really disappointed that we can’t update RAM like we could back in the day.
Apple understands this mostly deeply. That's why they price the ram upgrade like that.
The other thing with MacBooks is they also use unified memory which in return is a lot more efficient than standard RAM
That is what Apple knows and that is why they charge unreasonable amount of money for RAM.
I was watching this vid to see what was the mistake but I stopped watching when u said that RAM is at the bottom of priorities. Well, I never ever have a Mac but during my search, I think people should aim to 16GB of RAM minimum. Why? Because you can't upgrade RAM but you can plug an external SSD to work with.
I am a software developer using m1 macbook air. I have seen ram at 13-15 GB used easily whereas processor is not used even 60%. So Ram upgrade is much better than procesor. m2 pro chip + 32GB ram is better than buying m3 pro chip + 18GB ram.
For your use case then ram might be a better upgrade. What kind of development do you do?
@@ColeCaccamise Full Stack Web apps.
@@user-it8de6uw9m yes m1 is enough for learning. get 16gb ram + 512gb version. This is bare minimum. Don't buy 8GB ram version as running servers locally won't be possible.
@@user-it8de6uw9m yes
As a system/DevOps engineer, I decided to buy MBA 13" M3 16/512 for my usage - the most excellent choice for me. Even though the M3 Pro 14" costs "only" 300 bucks higher at the moment, I don't see any reason to have a bigger device. But I will appreciate it if my employer decides to give me MBP ))
I bought a refurbished 16” M1 Pro a few months ago and it’s still been amazing, I’m just not keen to spend a lot of money to upgrade something for minimal updates. Great video as always
Thank you man, glad you’re enjoying it!
M1 16" here as well, loving it, but i did have to pay for additional icloud storage last month (bought it second hand for 1,5K £, now they are even cheaper ~1.1K £ still would buy it in 2024)
How do you guys get along with all the payable programs on apple OS? Like even Adobe Acrobat Reader can’t be used without paying?
Hey Jason, how much was the battery capacity when you got it?
I updated from Intel Macbook pro to the m3 pro Macbook pro 14,I love it also love ur content keep it up.
and i think as far as less GPU cores go it feels like they wanted to improve efficiency by decreasing GPU cores and 3nm processor at the same time to show as if the 3nm is a big upgrade for battery life. Love ur videos keep going :)
I personally opted for the option with more storage and cores and I gotta say I’m more than pleased with its performance so far. Tasks such as editing in photoshop go super smooth and I can have dozens of tabs open and the system won’t slow down. And the battery life is just phenomenal.
how is your battery life? Is it 14 or 16"? I'm getting like 7-8 hours on light use. My old m1 was also around this range. I regret switching to pro which was supposed to give "18 hours"
@@mymbrain I got the 14" version. As for battery life, it really depends on your usage. I for one can easily get the advertised 18h or even more than a day without charging. This while having screen brightness and keyboard lighting on auto and while editing texts in word, editing photos in photoshop or also steaming videos. I can’t explain your measly 8h though. Are you using it with 100% brightness?
@@Pascal-ui2lm this 7-8 hours is with 40-50% brightness and no keyboard lightning. If i have 100% brightness it goes max 3-4 hours. I check my CPU & GPU usage, they are usually pretty low. I'm doing the same stuff as in M1 Air and getting less battery life. I think something is wrong with my device but it is very hard to proof since they always say it "depends on the usage"
@@mymbrain You have an M3 Pro Chip and not just the base model right? Because the M3 would be a bit less efficient. But if it’s the Pro then it might be worth asking Apple for support if this short battery life continues. Your battery might have a production fault if that’s the case.
hi as you use mac, I have a question, my brothers M1 Air had a issue when I tried using Photoshop on it, first it was fine, but after some days, it ran into a OpenGL issue, the use GPU option in performance setting gets randomly greyedout sometimes. And it stops updating smart objects, text effects and canvas zoom etc. Have you ran into this issue, please tell me if you know anything about it & if there is a solution, I want to buy M3 air 16gb for Graphic design (first time apole buyer), but this potenial doubt is stopping me from it. Because if it occurs, then it would become useless. And is M3 air 16gb good enough for graphic design, will it handle the workload fine. Thanks.
Reference to some people who think 8GB should be enough. One of my friends recently found that his M2 8GB has over 150TB data written in a year. The amount is huge, probably because of the Apple SWAP. Considering that general consuming 256GB SSDs have 250-300 TBW, I worried about my friends' M2 8GB mini might be down after 2 years. Apple's general warranty is for 2 years. You can see how smart the Apple business strategy is.
I think most of the few small weaknesses of this spec can be easily avoided if its not your only machine, and you have ample storage thats easy to transfer to/work from. Considering the 2k spec went on sale for 1800, its a cost effective powerhouse. I'd love a crazy beefy spec laptop, but the 3-5k could be better spent on a desktop setup.
Another note about raw performance: export times may be similar in some cases but your m3 machine is using less power than your M1 to deliver the same results.
Solid video overall! Thanks for the viewpoint you earned a sub!
Thank you for the support bro!
Thanks 🙏🏾, the honest review indeed !
For most applications, more RAM would always give you better performance than CPU and storage. Not surprised that you didn't see improvement you were expecting with the same 16GB of RAM.
From the other comments it seems to do with the media engine + slower bandwidth. But maybe I was wrong about the benefits of ram
@@ColeCaccamise having more RAM avoids the frequent swapping to disk due to insufficient RAM. Read/Write to RAM is much faster than storage which is why it's best to avoid swapping.
i got one of the m3 base models after using a maxed out 16 inch an in general use an simple tasks, well i say simple... editing 4k is stil super smooth, even on 8gb ram... it depends on the user
But also on the kind of footage, 4K doesn’t mean a lot by itself
Awesome condensed video! thank you following!!! question one (what monitor is in the background and what docketing are you using?) I'm actually STILL holding on to my 2015 MacBook Air (you know the one with the light up apple on the back - so ashamed) BUT gonna upgrade in the next few months. I know REGARDLESS of what I do it's gonna be SO much faster. BUT I'm so torn - do I hold out for the M4 chip (cuz lets face it I'm gonna keep it for a while most likely) or do I just get the 14" Pro M1 or M2 (cuz that seems to be everyone's go to. would love any suggestions you might have.
I went from a 10/24/32/2TB 16' M1 Max to a M3 Pro 12/18/18/1TB 14" (The $2399 option). The M3 hasn't missed a beat. Only thing I see as slower is video export, but that makes sense since it's 2 vs 1 encoder. Everything else feels the same. Size was the factor for me changing.
And that's aactually the answer why the new one isnt any faster, same encoder, same times. Easy as that. So why should it be fast then??
@@Patrick-ds1dgIn the video, he is comparing it to the M1 Pro, which also has one encoder.
@@caedon0756 Yeah, but that's the problem. Same encoder and same count of encoders. How do you wanna see any significant improvement. I cant complain about that, if i miss the fact.
But isn’t the 16 inch MBP cooler especially during processor throttling as compared to 14 inch? Not to mention bigger screen real estate and display resolution.
@@sglatitude He said that the fans weren’t turning on. So there shouldn’t be any throttle.
I got the 16" with 512gig HD. I wanted to upgrade it but amazon had such a good savings for the 512 version. They didn't provide any of the upgrades it had to be whatever the standard version was. If the savings weren't so good I would have gotten more hd space, but I did end up with more ram and it runs amazing so far.
I did the same for the same reason. I think we can still upgrade with a ton of space via microSD and/or portable SSD
I just bought this model and have been using it for a few days. I haven't even edited any video on it yet, but even just with Safari open with my usual bunch of tabs, listening to music in the background or playing a RUclips video, and using Lightroom Classic makes this thing uses all 18GB of RAM and starts hitting swap space on the SSD. This affects performance, but it also means that the SSD is probably going to wear prematurely. I'm taking it back and swapping it for one with 36GB RAM.
Yikes, your workflow sounds exactly like mine😬 Did you get the 36gb one? How do you like it
@@christopherbuckel9180 I had to order it as the local Apple Store didn’t have one in stock. I’m still waiting on it, it should hopefully be here in a week or so.
After doing some more reading, I found a thread on the Adobe community message boards about this. Lightroom Classic just seems to start hogging memory sometimes as it caches images. This doesn’t seem to be a Mac issue but an Adobe one. One person on a 32 GB M2 MacBook said it will hog all that memory and still create up to 10GB cache files sometimes. Another person states that turning graphics acceleration down to basic solves the issue.
So I’m not sure that upping to the 36GB model is even going to solve my problem, but as I want to run some VMs as well, the extra memory will be welcome.
@@christopherbuckel9180 I got it a couple weeks ago.. I went up to the M3 Pro 12/18 core 36GB RAM with 1TB SSD. I like it a lot! So far, I haven't been hitting the swap space at all, super fast, and the battery lasts all day. I'm pretty impressed with it.
@@christopherbuckel9180 Hey, I got the 36GB one and it's much better. Not hitting the swap like the 18GB one.
I'm on a 2017 MacBook Air with 8gb of ram and a small HD. I think this will be a nice upgrade.
Bro.. really bro upgrade! You'll feel like you are living in a new generation.
Im on a 2013 mac air. Only looking to upgrade because I can no longer upgrade the software.
Me over here with my 2011 MacBook Pro.
Going from a 2011 MacBook Pro to a MacBook Pro max was amazing.
great video!
Very nice video. Loved the editing.
Thank you man!
i think a lot of it has to do with performance cores and efficiency cores. a lot of programs are not utilizing all the cores. the programs are just using the performance cores, leaving the efficiency cores idle. this is true for a lot of the audio programs i work with, with only some programs putting all the cores to use.
hey man, im really happy you made this video! just have a question, im a windows user since i was born lol, but now im moving to europe and i really need a laptop! i film using my iphone 15 pro (4k 24/30FPS) and edit all my videos on premiere ( i need to go along with this software coz all my team uses it). do you think buyng an MCP M3 PRO base model as yours will be enough?! im asking it as a newbie who's changing OS for the first time in my life!
You are literally asking if one of the most powerful laptops out there will be enough for you... and if he says no, won't you buy it ...
1:15 I forget that mac people dont understand what IPC improvements are in generations of CPUs. Instructions per clock is IPC and when that goes up, that can be more beneficial than core count. Or it can be equal depending on the IPC vs core counts of both chips. In the M1 to M3 case, the IPC is vastly improved. Plus with a smaller process, the 3nm vs 5nm die makes the M3 as powerful using less energy or more powerful using the same energy. Thats why.
Thanks for the explanation!
IMO the best choice would be to get a cheaper but more powerful Mac mini for home and use the 16 in for when you are on the go
If you're doing any sort of 3d rendering work, M1 gpus are completely obsolete. The M3 pro chip is +%100 faster even the binned version with less cores.
Also will be an improvement on AI and single core driven tasks over the M1. For the rest of the tasks such as video editing there shouldn't be much difference.
For how much you spend 5 years is crazy. I've had my current PC for 9 years now and it will last me until we are forced to upgrade to Windows 11. This has been a beautiful machine at a fraction of the cost. 5 years is nuts and is one of the main reasons I don't purchase a Mac. I get a hair, go look, get excited, and see the cost and support cycle and that ends that :)
Honestly i was coming from a 2013 MacBook air. Anything was a MAJOR upgrade. But yeah this MacBook is great for me.
same!
Same!
It's the memory bandwidth. If you want that to be better you need to buy the Max M3. M1/M2 base/Pro didn't have the same memory bandwidth restriction.
Dang, found this super helpful. Looking to buy my 1st mac. Probably will go for the upgraded version you're thinking of getting (which you should!). The lag while zooming in would tilt me out everytime!
Whats the difference between these setups: having an m3 max macbook (36 gigabyte memory) + external display vs having an m2 ultra mac (64 gigabyte memory) + external display? which is best for heavy video editing?
It’s not confusing. The decoders are the same, that’s why the renders take same ammount of time
I was actually going to buy the base M3 pro at the Apple store upgrading the ram to 16GB but Bestbuy is selling rhe M3 pro wirh 18GB of ram for $1,7950 since im a total member. Also Bestbuy is offering $715 in trade credit for my M2 base Air vs Apple offering $600.
Did you consider upgrading to 36gb memory as a content creator, because my 16gb memory M1 Pro MacBook Pro tends to lag a bit in a final cut which is annoying.
Great video. How does it handle Resolve editing? I'm using an M1 Macbook Air and it can't handle Resolve so I'm forced to use Final Cut. Can the M3 Pro handle Resolve smoothly?
That’s weird, my m1 easily handles resolve. Do you have studio?
storage is 100% the last thing i recommend buying from apple. Pretty much the only thing you can add on after purchase for an absolute fraction of what apple charge (~£1/$1 per gb?!) it's all about the unified memory with these as you cant upgrade it afterwards
Also look at what kind of cores you get with the M3, how many performance cores/efficiency cores.
The new M3 base model with 18 GB would be an upgrade for me from my Mac Air 13.
Tap to click is also a must! Makes it feel much more premium 👍
I ended up with the 16" M3 Max base setup 14-Core CPU, 30-Core GPU, 36GB Unified Memory, 1TB SSD Storage. If your coming from a Previous M chip, you really need to go the max, otherwise not worth the upgrade. I would only upgrade if I was on the intel based setups.
You also need to keep in mind, the M chips are unified memory, it's been shared, so you need more, I would not go less than a 32GB option if you want to get good life out of this. 1TB SSD should be your target also, for swap, longevity etc.
For my current use, so far I have seen it jump to 16GB of memory use. This is running VS Code, browser with roughly 6 tabs, connected to external monitor 4k 50", extended display, if I mirror this drops a bit. Rust Compile times are pretty much instant, no difference from my Arch linux desktop actually. Roughly sits at 12GB mem or lower if I am working on the laptop only.
If battery life is a concern, then the max chip is not for you, Base M3 or pro chip only.
I have no regrets going the M3 Max, actually I am glad I didn't go M3 Pro, which I was so close to doing until I researched others experience. I think the main concern is memory, rather than the cpu.
I thought 16GB of unified memory was like 32GB of RAM?
@@psilocypher I am not sure what you mean, but with unified, it means that GPU and Ram memory are one. With apple it also has a swap, which will then kick in if you exceed your unified memory, this is why apple's performance can function so well even on 8Gb, but you will put more wear on your SSD due to caching. Hence why I recommend more Unified Memory
I am in the first year of university studying computer science and engineering. I am going to start specialisation in AI and machine learning from the third year. I am confused between an M3 Pro 16in MacBook Pro or and M3 Air 15in (when it launches) to purchase. I want atleast 15in screen size. Which one would you suggest? Thanks!
For AI and engineering you really are working yourself into a corner with an ARM Mac
If you’re working with machine learning you really need to consider RAM and processing speed. I wouldn’t go the Air route here.
Don’t get a Mac
Then what do you suggest?@@matthewfraney9108
Yeah coming from Intel, I did my research and felt that given the form factor being much the same an M1 max would be most economical for performance. I got the 64gb ram as I also tend to run Parallels at same time and push the machine regularly with that. I tend to keep my work files open so I know what to do the next day so having that ram saves me having to close apps.
Is it possible that the programs/apps have not yet been optimized for the M3 chip? Maybe after some updates, you will see big improvement.
It could be possible but I think it’s more to do with the bandwidth and media engine as some other commenters have mentioned
i would like to add that the M3 Pro has fewer performance cores and more efficiency cores. Some programs use only the performance cores.
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO
Just watched your video and the only thing that I'm upset about is that I wish the M1pro was made in that black color, that is the only reason why I want the M3 😣 I currently have the M1 pro 14" 10 16 16 1tb ssd
love the vid btw bro!
Hey, do you, guys, also have this issue when mac starts noticeably LAG after few cycles of sleep mode? I have 2 monitors (2k and 4k) attached and it is even more noticeable. I have to restart the thing pretty much every day, and it’s annoying. I wonder it that still be present if I upgrade from base m1 pro to base m3 pro.
Sleep mode always have been an issue on macs.
I’m considering switching to a Mac. I use photoshop to make digital paper with 5-30 layers. I use photoshop elements to edit videos for RUclips. Can you suggest what MacBook Pro or MacBook Air I could use and which I should stay away from please?
I’d recommend the 14" Pro with an M3Pro and 18GB RAM. As for storage, it depends on how much you need. Personally I’d recommend 1TB but that of course comes with a heftier price tag attached to it.
The encoder is usually the bottleneck when exporting videos. Unless you do colour grading and heavy fx the GPU and CPU is hardly used
I really don't understand the issue he mentions about moving the fingers to either ends on trackpad when moving windows. Can someone explain?
I think it's worth getting the M3 over the M1 or M2 just to have added years of support before it becomes obsolete. For most users, these computers can easily last 8+ years, so buying a year or two old processor shortens the lifespan, even if it is cheaper upfront.
And how does the age of the CPU matter here in any way? These CPUs are all on the same architecture, the only difference is the IPC on M3 got better. Is there anything you can do on M3 Pro but can’t do on M1 Pro other than ray tracing? The only difference is that M3 does some tasks faster. Same screen, same keyboard, same speakers, touchpad, chassis. I rather buy older M1 Max with 32GB RAM rather than base M3 pro with cut down memory bandwidth and 18/512 config. I rather buy older but better config for the same price and upgrade 3 years later than buying inferior hardware for the same price because it will be supported longer. I would never want to have 18GB RAM in 2027…
Apple makes products absolete 7 years after they stop selling them. Older processors will go obsolete quicker than newer ones. Not being able to update the OS eventually stinks. If you’d rather replace in a few years, ok. I’d rather get something better now and keep it for 8-9 years.
@@Maineguy42 36GB/1TB M3 Pro is 50-60% more expensive than 32GB/1TB M1 Pro. I rather get that M1 Pro now and later switch to M5 instead of buying M3 now for that 60% higher price and waiting for M8 or whatever apple is gonna release later.
@@patent5421 I don't think the M1 Pro is even sold new? So you'd rather spend less and get a refurbished, 3 year old laptop. That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. I'd rather spend more and get the newest. Hard to argue against that too.
I had to return my m3 pro base (18/512) because it was extremely ram starved in my creative workflows. It would get so laggy in resolve or lightroom and resolve would often crash.
You wrote 16GB for. both but said 18GB for the pro (not to be nitpicky I'm just not familiar enough with the specs to know which is the case)
Basically they nerfed the lowest end 14 inch Macbook Pro in order to mask their stealth price increases. Plus, if you were mostly fine with your M1 Pro then I don't understand why you expected such a major uplift.
Apple basically screwed themselves by offering such a large uplift with the original M1 series that they're still using comparisons against old Intel-based Macs in their presentations. There's nothing really there for people who already got on the M1 train early.
But why would you just use an external SSD for all projects? It doesn’t make sense to always put the footage on your laptop… Your laptop’s SSD gets slower if you keep on putting files on it and removing them since your never fully removing all the data.
I have an issue rendering my video. This creates a huge problem everything lags. Also sometimes I lose video and after reinsert it. any advice
gonna pick up the m3 pro 12/18/16 core with 18gb ram and 1tb storage version for $2050 otd (10.25% wack ass cali tax included) at best buy. coming from a 2019 dell xps, im pretty excited.
🤔I Thought, 🙌🏼💯This is honesty and realistic review...
This is more of rumor on the chips, but makes sense: They switched to 3nm process and TSMC current production yields are not "great." Supposedly TSMC they have a improved process expected Q1 2024. From the weird specs on ram and CPU it does logically make sense they "binning" more (disabling cores/RAM to improve the yields). It is a first gen product under the hood lol.
Many thanks, an honest and well-balanced video that is very helpful.
How has the 512gb done for you? I just ordered this exact model, kinda worried about storage
How is it after 2 weeks ? Is 512gb enough ?
how is the battery life?
You went from a Mid level MBP 16" M1 to a base model MBP 14" M3. That's like a side grade. Should have stuck with the M1 Pro 16. 💯
for video render you have to get the M3 Max chip. its has 2 encoders all other chips only have one encoder
The reason the computer is slower is because of the refresh rate of the display. Also try to connect the power source closer to a window it helps get more power to the device, therefore runs a lot faster! Your welcome :)
what are you saying bro
It’s really true that the M1 Pro is still so similar in functional performance. But also, sadly, you bought the Pro during the year that the Pro was downgraded in cores and memory lanes. You bought the differentiated, nerfed version on the year where Max was the only real option for an upgrade if you have an M series. Plus, with only 100GB free space, you are also slowing your system further. I like to keep 500GB free to keep the memory shuffle down.
Yeah I didn’t realize this until uploading. Will probably go with the max chip next time around
Full disclosure, the Max is so rediculous and unnecessary for most things. I had a 5-layer Hvec-10-bit 1 hour project in Davinci Resolve. I had a similar 40 min project in Capcut. I had noise reduction on a lot of parts etc but they were both heavy projects. I exported Davinci Resolve and Capcut at the same time while creating the thumbnails in Photoshop and had a 4K RUclips stream playing on one of 3 4K monitors. My fans were audible for sure but no lag or slowdown. I also had maybe 40 chrome tabs open because I'm a recruiter with profiles open. I didn't bother to close them. I had Krisp noise reduce a call that occurred during that time, no hickups at all. It was almost like the computer wasn't doing anything. So, would I normally do that? No. In fact, no way. I just wanted to see what was possible. It was idiotic. It's all marketing bro. If I had to replace my system with the M1 Max right now, I wouldn't shed a tear. Trust me, be very happy with your system, it's awesome. Even 3D rendering in Blender... I have an M1 Macbook Air still and it does great. I have some old projects there for 3d Printing. Is it a AAA title gaming render? No, but it's not simple. I'm keeping my system for a long time and recommend the same for everyone that has an M anything.. @@ColeCaccamise
Bro my old m1 pro chip exported an edit in 10 mins and 53 seccond s and my macbook pro m3 chip exported the same exact edit in 3 mins and 2 seccond s so like aint no way theres not a difference
Thanks for this comparison
Appreciate you watching my man
@@ColeCaccamise🙏🏽
As someone who's built his own computers for a long time, I am honestly startled by how Apple treats it's user base.
I consider Apple users people who are willing to pay an extra premium to not have to deal with a difficult system, it should just work. The fact that the RAM and Hardrive are such key components here and they actually allow you to get less than what you need is...well shit. It's inexcusable, they should make it very clear what each model is for and who it is for.
On the customer service side of things there's just no good reason for it.
It’s a little disappointing with the price to performance ratio. The 14” MacBook Pro m2 with the 12 core/19 gpu is looking like the best deal out there right now… if you can still find one.
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro! I am looking to upgrade to a MacBook Pro M3 Pro 11/14 CPU GPU.
Did you do it?
Yeah I’m on a 2013 mac book pro I think this will improve my work flow drastically 🤣
Apple reduced performance cores to increase efficiency of 14 inch. Which is good for travellars, you as an studio producer should have take 14 core or 16 core cpu model. The 14 inch pro model is not for studio use, it is for back packers and travel vloggers.
yeah the max chip probably would've been a better choice
it's Apple, you should be surprised if you weren't disappointed
Yes. RAM, RAM, RAM. no matter how efficient Unified Memory is, 8 is still 8 and 16 is still 16.
I honestly don’t understand your complaints. You had a very strong M1 MacBook and the M3 is not as much stronger as you expected. I have an M1 Air it will be a massive upgrade for me.
I expected two gens later it to be a somewhat noticeable difference, but turns out you need to get a much more upgrade version
If I never owned a Mac, would you you recommend the M3 Pro at base model without upgrading Ram and storage?
you can currently get a 14 m1 pro on amazon renewed for like 1200. i think thats a crazy deal. there really isn't much reason to go for the m2 or m3 pro over an m1 pro when its still super capable. then you can pocket the difference and upgrade the storage/ram
@@ColeCaccamiseSo you save $500-600 to get a used machine with less CPU? I think the M3 Pro would be just fine for someone who’s never owned a Mac. However, I could understand not upgrading if you already had the M1.
M3 Pro is watered down this year to force people into the M3 Max for more money. Due to inflation, if your on a M1 Pro/Max or M2 Pro/Max you got a pretty good deal a don’t even know it.
The ‘YT tech review accent’ has its own category now fr
😂😂😂 I was thinking the same thing!
@@kyleamaker the repetitive intonation pattern is so annoying
@@arjealis97 I agree. Like a really annoying loud whisper.
Does the battery drain more if you go for the higher cpu and ram specs? M3 Pro Chip
I know the max is always a bit, an hour or two depending on the workflow. As for the upgraded pro I’d imagine there some difference but probably not as drastic.
Yeah same media rendering engine since the original m1 pro. You'd need a Max to actually see a differance. Dont get the upgrade to another pro.. for your use case you'll have to bite the bullet and get a base 16 iinch Max it has 2.5x render speed vs m1 pro (and everything else). Also the max has the ability to use 4 external displays while the Pro only 2. Its all on apple's site just have to read the fine print hehe. Id sell / return both and get the 16 max if the main use case was video rendering.
i just bought the same base model m3 pro macbook pro and after a couple hours of web browsing it started to feel kind of warm to the touch so i downloaded TG pro and i noticed that im getting 45C to 50C in thermals stats just when using 1 tab of google chrome, and when iddle its always around 38C - 40C( with anything opened ). My ambient temperature is 20C. Are those temperatures normal? should i ask for a refund? its my first macbook
There are times where my Mac gets hot for no real reason. Has happened with both this and my m1 at some points
Never, ever, use Chrome or any Google service. No privacy at all and memory hungering!
the most beautiful laptops since the 12"/17" PowerBook
The only thing worth upgrading on these machines is integrated memory.... Performance differences between m3 pro and max with same integrated memory are very minor compared to a m3 pro with more integrated memory... And, Apple charges dumb money for storage. Its an SoC with memory on chip, so memory is not upgradeable and still impacts every aspect of use (especially tasks that leverage parallel processing, so true professional applications). You can always use a (blazingly fast) external SSD but you can't upgrade things that exist directly on the die of the processor. If you want longevity, you get the m3 pro build with 36gb of integrated memory and 512gb SSD.
I got a Mac book air 2012 screen broke. I’m debating on mac book pro 14 M2 Max or m3 max
my 2013 MBP 15" is finally starting to give up, 11 years on. I just bought a M3 MBP 16" and it arrives in a few weeks. I figure since I've made it this long on the 2013 i7 (amazing considering I do professional work), it would already be a MASSIVE performance increase going to M3 Pro and that M3 Max would just be overkill. I opted to bump the storage to 2TB instead
This is because of the special rendering CPU‘s. The Pro has only one, the Max has two of them.
I remember reading that at launch but completely forgot about it. Makes sense.
explanation for the weaker pro series: the m1 pro and max chips were so good, that even MKBHD said he didn’t need the m3 max and stayed with the mr3 max. So what apple did is decrease the bandwidth of the pro and decreased the performance cores. they needed to differentiate the max cpu because most people would not need a max chip UNLEAS they did graphics. Now… max chips provide the incentive for more performance cores. Good news though… even the base m3 pro has two nand ssd drivers… so it’s 5 GB writes. you will not feel the decrease in bandwidth with the pros
Appreciate the explanation
Instead of paying more to upgrade to m3 12 core, just pay the same (instead of more) and get the m2 pro 12 core
Now you have 8 performance cores instead of 5 or 6 only
AND you have 19 cores gpu.
Oh and 16gb with 1Tb ssd.
Am I missing something or is that the best deal ever?
Considering the black but hear the inside gets very smudgy?
Mine hasn’t
Hey Cole i want to buy my first laptop for video editing - I have very nice PC setup but its not doing the job well - ryzen 9 5950x rtx 3060 ti 32 gb ram - it is so laggy in premiere when I am editing 1080p with a lot of layers and effects and 4k with not that many layers and effects , also it lags a lot in after effects - my question is this is the m3 pro 14 inch base model will be enough to not lag at 4k in premiere and to do motion graphics with a lot effects in after effects
The M1 pro and M3 pro have the exact same video encoder, so video editing won’t be any faster. The M3 Max chip has two of those encoders and therefore being twice as fast
Makes sense. Thanks man
@@hanish.eclipse I don’t get the question, if there is any
Seems a little small, how do you guys feel about it?
Hey, did you notice scuffs and cosmetic issue with your M3 ? Do you have any ?
not really
@@ColeCaccamise not really ? Which means u do have some ?
Do u recommend putting a shell case on it ?
Please make a video on the ALL BLACK EDC!
coming up ;)
M1 and M1 pro are fantastic processors. They completely changed the video editing experience. M2 and M3 though... Not worth the upgrade...
I’m still using a 2011 iMac 🖥️ 1TB/32GB/i5
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Thank you man!
I personally think most of these problems were your own fault like when you bought the MacBook with lower storage just to want more in the end. Also the M3 Pro with 12 cpu cores is much better even though it costs more. In my opinion the Ram isn't really such a big deal.
MacBook is not designed for everyone. It designed for professional creators and academics use.
If you don’t need it, don’t spend money on it because they are expensive.
If you need it, get a M3 Pro or Max chip, ever it is expensive, it can help you done your job.
A lot of people bought a MacBook and later found they don’t need that because they don’t really understand what the MacBook is designed for.
That is a very lame funny excuse
Most profesional in science and engineering dont use macs,most Software are not for macs when people spend huge money they expect a machine that has the performance that deserve the price that s the reason most teens fall to the Apple marketing.
They re not expensive they re overpriced. But if you make tiktoks or a 16 year old that needs followers buy a mac
Most pros dont buy a mac not because the price is because the hardware that you get for that price.
Are you some sort of messiah of technology to say why you should buy a mac?
You just need the hype..you buy the fantasy of having " status" but it doesnt exist..
There are too many no names with macs.
@@Teluric2 : What professional creators mean and what they usually do?
You can still return it due to Apple’s extended holiday return policy. Get the next level up with the M3 Pro chip, if you purchase it on Apple’s education store, it goes for only $200 more ($2,199) and it comes with 1 TB as well as the additional GPU cores. It’s truly the best model/price combination.
I forgot to grab the student discount initially, might do this tbh
Yes, definitely worth it… my journey to replace my 2017 13” MacBook Pro started with me getting a good deal on a refurbished 15” MacBook Air with 16 GB / 1 TB, but after almost 2 weeks, the M3 MacBook Pro came out, so I returned the Air while it was still within the 14 day return period and got the base M3 MacBook Pro 16 GB / 1 TB instead.
After a month of not having the extra USB-C port on the right, as well as a bit of FOMO on the M3 Pro processor, the extra fan, and the space black color, I returned that base M3 (luckily the extended holiday return period was in effect) and I got the M3 Pro instead.
Now I should be all set for at least 6 years… I hope! 🤞
@@ColeCaccamise Yes I did that got the same laptop for 32gb and saved money compared to even the 18gb spec. Now I'm just debating the 1tb change on the hard drive.
I have the 2019 Mac pro with i5 core and 8 gb ram. My biggest problem... 128 gb of memory.
I am buying the mac m3 pro with 1 tb and 16 of ram. I think that should be enough for the next 10 years.
I work with medical imaging and AI. I know that for much cheaper I could get 32 gb of ram on a windows computes, however, I am not sure that right now, I do not need all of that AAAAND I love the MacOS for coding. Its just much simpler to work with.
I think I am making a good upgrade.
can you share your review, if you have done the upgrade.
How has no one mentioned the incredibly low SSD space he has that is obviously slowing his performance. Its common knowledge that when you're near capacity, which he is that your computer starts running slower.
The first time I'll decide to buy a MacBook,
I searched a lot about (M3 MBA/MBP). Finally I pick a (14" MBP M3 16/512gb) then I thought why i should go with (14" MBP M3 Pro 18/512gb) so that I find out your video.
🤔Now you confused me again with your honest review & you recommendation to (14" MBP M3 pro 18gb 1tb or Old Chips)...
📌Apple is a master at confusing and tricking customers into choosing the best one to buy. Well Planned🍎