3 Beginner Tips For Huge Orchestrations

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • In this video, Arn Andersson will take you through 3 of his top beginner tips for achieving bigger, cleaner and more powerful orchestrations in the style of Two Steps From Hell and Thomas Bergersen.
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Комментарии • 171

  • @catplayingthepiano
    @catplayingthepiano 4 года назад +95

    5:40 1.Simplify
    12:30 2.Separation
    24:45 3.Voicing

    • @greggeverman5578
      @greggeverman5578 4 года назад +7

      Time stamps are always appreciated!
      Thanks, man.

    • @poorboy8833
      @poorboy8833 4 года назад +1

      What is name this program?

    • @yuulian4776
      @yuulian4776 4 года назад +2

      @@poorboy8833 cubase

  • @bigchestflex
    @bigchestflex 6 лет назад +41

    This video illustrates a lot that I'm doing/thinking wrong. Thanks, man. You made my life a little easier :)

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +3

      Glad we could be of help! Stay tuned for future tutorials like this one. =)

  • @jamesrossmusic6013
    @jamesrossmusic6013 3 года назад +1

    All makes good sense.. Bell has rung in my head... The lower the frequency, the less bandwidth available for competing instruments and tones. The higher the frequency, the more the bandwidth available for competing tones and instruments and voices.... THANK YOU SIR!!!!

  • @sdm151
    @sdm151 6 лет назад +16

    I'm just starting to dip my toes in cinematic orchestration and this is, hands down, the best beginner video I've seen (and I've watched A LOT). You will be getting another course enrollment soon.

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +3

      Hey! Glad you enjoyed the tutorial, means a lot to our team knowing we're providing useful tools for aspiring composers. Have fun with our courses!

  • @jamesrossmusic6013
    @jamesrossmusic6013 3 года назад +1

    This has been so important to me that you could not imagine.... A bell has gone off in my head about the importance of seperation especially in the low end..... Thank You SIR!!!!

  • @fastrack2170
    @fastrack2170 3 года назад +1

    Thank you! Can't wait till I can join the courses!

  • @mistercat141
    @mistercat141 3 года назад +1

    Very simple yet powerful guide.. thank you

  • @MirkoBrunoOfficial
    @MirkoBrunoOfficial 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for the video! have a good day!

  • @nathanieldiazrua
    @nathanieldiazrua 3 года назад +1

    Thank You! This is awesome!

  • @deltavistastudio124
    @deltavistastudio124 4 года назад +2

    GREAT INFORMATION - Thanks.Too bad your mic kept bottoming out.

    • @ArnAndersson
      @ArnAndersson 4 года назад +1

      Delta Vista Studio Thank you! Yes, had some issues back then, will be better for future videos! Thanks for the support

  • @chanhappy9559
    @chanhappy9559 6 лет назад +15

    The best orchestration tutorial on youtube so far, it is huge!!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the kind words Chan! Glad you find it useful. =)

  • @jasonputradarmawan
    @jasonputradarmawan 4 года назад +1

    very nice turtorial and great music as well!

  • @Call.Me.Afshin
    @Call.Me.Afshin Месяц назад

    I can't tell how much this is helping me at this stage of composing
    Thanks🙏

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  Месяц назад +1

      So glad to hear, cheers!!

  • @marcodallara4682
    @marcodallara4682 3 года назад +1

    Great tips 😉

  • @joseeriveraa
    @joseeriveraa 4 года назад

    great video thank you

  • @andreluisalvesfreitas1728
    @andreluisalvesfreitas1728 3 года назад +1

    This is HUGEEE man!!!
    Thank you!

  • @ckhowes
    @ckhowes Год назад +1

    Most excellent!

  • @vuto8089
    @vuto8089 3 года назад

    this video helped more than you could imagine

  • @Adrian-lb9to
    @Adrian-lb9to Год назад +1

    Thank You for this video!

  • @indyartmusic1142
    @indyartmusic1142 4 года назад +1

    Great video!! I was blind but now i see! Really helpful. Thanks!!

  • @WalidFeghali
    @WalidFeghali 7 лет назад +24

    Looking great! Awesome tips. Thanks!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  7 лет назад +1

      Thanks Walid

  • @fredrick4870
    @fredrick4870 4 года назад +2

    Very helpful video thanks ! Actually you revealed and solved a big mixing issue I had, that was in fact a previous messy composition/orchestration as you pinpointed it so well.

  • @erkansamc2045
    @erkansamc2045 4 года назад +2

    I have effected very much more than i can say from this record. That was a really amazing job. Thanks you👏👏👏👏❤❤❤❤👍👍👍❤❤❤

  • @taliesinriver
    @taliesinriver 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! This will be very useful.

  • @JakeDavies
    @JakeDavies 3 года назад +1

    Amazing! Thanks for the awesome tips :)

  • @petersvan7880
    @petersvan7880 4 года назад

    Very good and useful, thank you!

  • @WilPowerVideoLog
    @WilPowerVideoLog 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent video! Thank you!!

  • @TomHawkComposer
    @TomHawkComposer 6 лет назад +9

    This tutorial was super helpful! :) Love those 4 tips.

  • @RamonRodgers
    @RamonRodgers 6 лет назад +9

    I'm taking all of the courses. In fact I've finished a few already and I love them. But I have to say THIS video... this ONE video on RUclips was the most valuable thing I've seen all year or longer! Thank You! Guilty Guilty Guilty! But its so easy to fall into these traps with a huge template. I can't wait to try something new with this new approach! Thank you again.

    • @ILaxative
      @ILaxative 6 лет назад +3

      Ramon Rodgers hey Ramon! We meet again. lol. I’m about to sign up for his his cinematic course. Does he expand on this more in the course? This video helped me outside of orchestral style music but all of my productions.

  • @theriseundaunted1690
    @theriseundaunted1690 5 лет назад +1

    dude this is gold. honestly clarified so so much and you nailed the presentation. the different examples of the same section reeeaaally made it easy to pinpoint what you are talking about. absolutely top. thank you so much for putting in the time to make this video!

  • @emreteselli6020
    @emreteselli6020 6 месяцев назад

    Very helpful one of the best orchestration videos out here! Thanks so much, and I wonder have you published the music in the video?

  • @PsychologueAtifbenabdallah
    @PsychologueAtifbenabdallah 4 года назад

    Big thanks from Morocco

  • @rfml
    @rfml 6 лет назад +3

    These tips were great, specific, on point and very important. Thanks a lot!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +3

      Glad you found them useful John!

  • @BaddieZaddie
    @BaddieZaddie 4 года назад +2

    This was super helpful for a beginner understanding .You articulated everything really well for me!

  • @RLeaguer_Saint
    @RLeaguer_Saint 5 лет назад +2

    Amazingly helpful - thank you. I went through and took detailed notes - I think I make every mistake you mention, so this should really help.

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  5 лет назад +1

      Glad you found these useful, keep trying and you'll see how quickly you start getting results!

  • @christiaantinga
    @christiaantinga 4 года назад +1

    Thanx for this helpful (to me important) video. What I love so much is your ending electronic version of it. It's like seen the movie in a cinema en watching the whole credits roll over screen. Superb!

  • @udaykollam
    @udaykollam 3 года назад

    brother you are great

  • @mogopolo
    @mogopolo 4 года назад +3

    Inspirational stuff. Also love the musical example!! Wow!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  4 года назад +2

      Cheers buddy! :) - Kenny

  • @bensokol-composer1859
    @bensokol-composer1859 5 лет назад +1

    Fantastic information! I'm pretty much guilty of all three mistakes (repeatedly even).
    Thanks for showing a detailed example of what not to do when orchestrating.

  • @gkgyver
    @gkgyver 4 года назад

    It really helps to get some actual conductor scores and read along, to get the connections between sound and orchestration. Listening and looking at MIDI will only get you so far. Reading Lord of the Rings conductor scores helped me a lot. Shore is very structured, and very good at getting the most out of everything.

    • @NotAnInterestingPerson
      @NotAnInterestingPerson 4 года назад

      I’ve been thinking about getting an LOTR conductor’s score but there appear to be several different versions available. Would you mind sharing which one you went with?

    • @gkgyver
      @gkgyver 4 года назад

      @@NotAnInterestingPerson www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/symphonic-suite-from-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring-conductor-sheet-music/4489352
      The full conductor score to the LotR Symphony is interesting as well.

    • @NotAnInterestingPerson
      @NotAnInterestingPerson 4 года назад

      gkgyver thank you!

  • @GreenHope42
    @GreenHope42 4 года назад +1

    This was a good tutorial. So many great tips. Thanks.

  • @marcus_ohreallyus
    @marcus_ohreallyus 5 месяцев назад

    What you said about a melody drowning in a rainforest of confused string players. That's what I'm going through with my first orchestral composition. It's more like string players rolling down a flight of stairs

  • @TheSamplecast
    @TheSamplecast 6 лет назад +3

    Cool tips here. Thanks for putting this video together and I look forward to more.

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks a bunch! We've plenty of more content coming out in the next few months. :)

  • @AlbertoSueri
    @AlbertoSueri 4 года назад

    lovely, thanks

  • @PhazonX
    @PhazonX 4 года назад +2

    You're amazing, thank you.

  • @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
    @CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 6 лет назад +2

    Awesome! More like this please! Maybe a simple chord voicing/melody writing guide as well?

  • @orlandomarinjr
    @orlandomarinjr 5 лет назад +1

    This has to be the best video ever on this topic thank you so much 🙏🏾

  • @IlkoBirov
    @IlkoBirov 7 лет назад +2

    This is a fantastic tutorial! Thank you for taking the time to put it all together. I found it very, very helpful.
    ... And it's always important to know, that each group of MIDI-folks need their separate space in order to live happily!

  • @rodterrell304
    @rodterrell304 4 года назад

    Helpful tips, thank you .

  • @mirzaaljic
    @mirzaaljic 6 лет назад +2

    A really good presentation, thank you for sharing!

  • @CesarDMarin
    @CesarDMarin 6 лет назад +1

    Total game changer!! Thank you very much!

  • @mistercat141
    @mistercat141 3 года назад

    Me: It's sound great !
    Evenant music : nope..
    Lol.. realized I had a lot of learning progress.. thank you for the insightful video there sir...

  • @markusfrancois6528
    @markusfrancois6528 2 года назад +1

    Hello, the video is a bit older but thanks for these helpful tips. I wanted to ask whether your courses are also intended for people like me to only pursue music as a hobby or do you only accept aspiring and professional composers? Maybe I'll get an answer from you even though the video is already 4 years old 😁

  • @MikeDawson01
    @MikeDawson01 4 года назад

    Excellent video!

  • @h0pesfall
    @h0pesfall 3 года назад

    That choir sounds so amazing. Is it Storm Choir?

  • @ToastandJam52
    @ToastandJam52 4 года назад

    Excellent video packed full of useful information that anyone can use. Just curious what orchestral, etc libraries did you use in this video. Thanks!

  • @tb6265
    @tb6265 4 года назад

    awesome work, thx for that... what are your main libraries you us? cheers

  • @JoshuaTMagee
    @JoshuaTMagee 7 лет назад +2

    Very helpful tutorial, Arn. Would love to see more videos like these!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  7 лет назад +2

      Thanks Josh, happy to hear you liked it. Will be tons more like this coming from now on!

    • @JoshuaTMagee
      @JoshuaTMagee 7 лет назад +1

      Would you be willing to share the MIDI from the "ideal" scenario that you use in this tutorial? That would make it much easier for those of us studying the lessons in the video to examine and break down proper separation and voicing. Thank you!

  • @gryffinfuryproductions4157
    @gryffinfuryproductions4157 6 лет назад

    This video is FANTASTIC! Subscribed! I'm a composer in training, and this is the information that I needed for a composition I'm working on. I can't wait to watch all of your content! Thank you!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      Thanks Elie, glad you enjoyed it! Let us know what you think of the other tutorials on our channel. Also feel free to check out our website at Evenant.com for more in-depth articles in music (we've got a bunch of categories). Not to mention we also have a community of composers from around the world on our Facebook group at facebook.com/groups/evenantmusic/ Good luck on your composition and feel free to share it with us! =)

  • @dremovremen1764
    @dremovremen1764 2 года назад +1

    Sorry, can't stop laughing at 11:03. That's some exceptional meme music right here. Like, dad slam-opening the door to sons room or something.

  • @andresandbergfek
    @andresandbergfek 7 лет назад +19

    Yeah this is great. Please do a video on "How to orchestrate a chord in strings, brass and winds" :) Btw a question: what choir Library?

  • @dafingaz
    @dafingaz 4 года назад

    Great insight!

  • @jingleskhanaudioproductions
    @jingleskhanaudioproductions 2 года назад +1

    thanks Arn for this! very helpful. What is the arpeggio at the end from the synth? which notes of the chord is it playing?

  • @the_other_dude
    @the_other_dude 5 лет назад

    Finally, another decent channel with tips/guides for orchestrations. Ez sub

  • @tinyboy662
    @tinyboy662 5 лет назад

    i really love you so much

  • @sadisticchiwawa8612
    @sadisticchiwawa8612 6 лет назад +1

    great

  • @JaymeSilverstein
    @JaymeSilverstein 6 лет назад +1

    Amazing tutorial.

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned for more tutorials coming soon.

  • @hveguitar
    @hveguitar 4 года назад

    Really awesome stuff, thanks so much

  • @nicolesproducerpack
    @nicolesproducerpack 6 лет назад +2

    Great video thanks for the tips

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @HieuPham-pw6og
    @HieuPham-pw6og 4 года назад

    The best tutorial i already see

  • @sancasper
    @sancasper 6 лет назад

    Wow, thank you so much. Appreaciate you brother. You don't know how much you inspired me!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      Thank so much San! Glad you enjoyed it =)

  • @MitchellBroom
    @MitchellBroom 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome Tips!!

  • @conforzo
    @conforzo 5 лет назад

    I guess looking at the overtone series is a nice way to orchestrate chords.

  • @JohnValhallaMusic
    @JohnValhallaMusic 4 года назад +1

    Loved the tutorial! Btw, what’s the name of the song?

  • @brennan5961
    @brennan5961 6 лет назад

    Awesome tutorial; for all levels of music production!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      Thanks Brennan! Glad you enjoyed it. If you're interested, our course on Cinematic Music goes into an amazing array of detail and depth for a number of subjects.

  • @kingstondread7064
    @kingstondread7064 3 года назад

    Awesome!🌴🇯🇲🌴

  • @salomp1452
    @salomp1452 6 лет назад +3

    This is SOOO helpful. Thank you so much!

  • @thynature
    @thynature 6 лет назад

    Fantastic tutorial!

  • @deepytv
    @deepytv 6 лет назад

    Wow! Thank you so much for this great tutorial! This was really helpful! I never thought about spreading out the different instruments etc, I just did my thing. Thank you so much! I'll definitely subscribe!

  • @Schoendorfer-Music
    @Schoendorfer-Music 3 года назад

    Great tips! Thanks! Can't wait to implement them in my next tracks.
    May i ask you, what orchester-library you use? It sounds amazing.

  • @lauschendelippen-thiskanal1070
    @lauschendelippen-thiskanal1070 6 лет назад

    What for a PC you have? WONDERFULL work - Gratulation. How many time you need fur this heavy Work? 2 days? Very strong what you make.... Wow...

  • @bandoli66
    @bandoli66 6 лет назад

    Great video:THanks!!!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Null_Tunes
    @Null_Tunes 2 года назад +1

    I love Two Steps From Hell.

  • @gkgyver
    @gkgyver 4 года назад +1

    Arn Anderson? The Enforcer? Whoooooo!

  • @conforzo
    @conforzo 6 лет назад +10

    Any tips on how to deal with instrument offsets? Many string samples and choir samples have a short fade in period which is good when playing slow things but becomes way of beat when playing longer passages. I always have to make each midi note a bit longer to make it fall on the beat and sync with percussion etc. Is there any smarter way to do this ?

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +6

      Hey Rustman, most sample libraries should come with the option to adjust the "Attack" levels on each instrument, which is basically how soon you want that instrument's maximum velocity entry to be. And as you said, the longer fade in periods are ideal for slower/legato patches, so an alternative could be (if your CPU can handle it) to duplicate the same instrument patch and have different "attack" settings for both, adjusted to your purposes and liking. Hope this helps! - Isaias

  • @filmweaver2013
    @filmweaver2013 6 лет назад +1

    Amazing tips!! clear and useful...

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned for more tutorials coming soon. =)

  • @Starglance
    @Starglance 6 лет назад

    Great tutorial. Problem here is that I like your original "mess" very much. Ok, it lacks the clear melody, but to me it sounds more atmospheric and interesting...

  • @deltavistastudio124
    @deltavistastudio124 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the salient info!
    A little heavy-handed on the compression of your narration - a LOT of pumping. Peace :)

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks for the input Delta, glad you found it useful.

  • @christiaantinga
    @christiaantinga 4 года назад +1

    "Nothing to write home about" ? Well enough! :)

  • @itsBoo
    @itsBoo 6 лет назад

    Thank youuu!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад

      You're most welcome!

  • @yawhtoi
    @yawhtoi 6 лет назад +1

    hi, may i ask how did you do that ghost channel in cubase? i know i can do that in fl studio but i can't do that in cubase. thanks.

  • @andreasgajewski9524
    @andreasgajewski9524 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the tutorial! Is it possible to hear the full track somewhere?

  • @timnixon9836
    @timnixon9836 6 лет назад +3

    This is a great video! Very informative...This makes me want to look back at older pieces to look at the orchestration & even look at scores of orchestral pieces from different composers.
    Do you or anyone have any recommendations of composers/pieces that do this?
    Something where I can find the score but if not, I’ll listen to it and try to make a score for it.

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +2

      Check out the channel FilmScore Analysis: ruclips.net/channel/UCk_jzTmW2Fmfnm70c2kZHpQ
      And also one of our Evenant contributors, Ashton Gleckman's Behind The Score series: ruclips.net/channel/UC9Z0p8W-IvB_2K_cAQdf7bg

    • @timnixon9836
      @timnixon9836 6 лет назад +1

      Evenant thank you for the suggestions, is it possible you could send those links again? For some reason they wouldn’t load when I clicked on it & I’m using the RUclips app on my phone...maybe it was because it had https instead of http idk

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Try just typing FilmScore Analysis and Ashton Gleckman into the search bar. =)

  • @tommyiglesias2267
    @tommyiglesias2267 6 лет назад +1

    Amazing video! I am interested in the course but can you tell me which strings do you use? Thanks!

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Hey Tommy! Glad you're interested in our courses, which one in particular are you interested in? Here's a basic list of the instruments used here:
      Strings and brass: Hollywood series (east west)
      Choirs are ark and storm choir
      Strings: some Albion One and Ark too
      Perc is a ton of mixes
      Piano is mainly The Giant

  • @vaultcry
    @vaultcry 4 года назад +1

    Thanks so much for the tutorial! Guys, please help me understand how an unknown composer can make money on his work and where to start? What exactly needs to be done? I dont know.

    • @ArnAndersson
      @ArnAndersson 4 года назад +4

      Will touch on stuff like this in coming content! But in the meantime, just compose, compose, compose. Try to be so good that you can’t be ignored. Try to find something unique that sets you apart from other people, something that give people a reason to listen to you and not someone else. Did you play the saxophone before? Maybe Drums? Maybe you are a guitarist? Or an EDM producer already? Then use those influences, bring something fresh to the table. Then share your music on platforms like RUclips and Soundcloud. Network with people, spread value. Get to know filmmakers and/or game developers. Or maybe you want to get into music libraries? I think the first question from me to you is; WHAT do you want to do, and where would this money come from? :)

    • @vaultcry
      @vaultcry 4 года назад +1

      @@ArnAndersson Thanks!

  • @ridgero
    @ridgero 6 лет назад +1

    wow, that was awesome, thank you so much! what brass did you use?

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! Using Hollywood Brass from EastWest here.

  • @mukulkataria9128
    @mukulkataria9128 4 года назад +1

    I'm struggling to find a good software for music composition. I want to create scores for my games. And I'm new to sound design. Can anybody tell me a good software ? I know there are many but I've no knowledge about it. Thank you.

    • @jasonfella265
      @jasonfella265 4 года назад +1

      Check out a company called East West, and their Composer Cloud X, which is a subscription based package, where you have THOUSANDS of instruments at your disposal.

    • @mukulkataria9128
      @mukulkataria9128 4 года назад

      @@jasonfella265 thank you for the suggestion. I appreciate.

    • @emanuel_soundtrack
      @emanuel_soundtrack 2 года назад

      @@mukulkataria9128 logic pro. EW is not a composition software

  • @Bak.R
    @Bak.R 6 лет назад +3

    Do you have more tips like that in your courses?

    • @Evenant
      @Evenant  6 лет назад +1

      Hey, yes definitely! You can check out the curriculum outline on the course page below. The videos covering the entire process of one track goes into a lot of depth. =) courses.evenant.com/p/cinematic-music-from-idea-to-finished-recording

  • @loot6
    @loot6 6 лет назад +1

    Your piano roll editor is so unclear - black with purple notes?

  • @StarryInkArt
    @StarryInkArt 5 лет назад

    What program do you use to make music??? And if it's too expensive for a beginner,are their alternatives?