The FUTURE OF SNOWBOARDING ?? - Nidecker Supermatic Step-In Bindings
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Are these step-in bindings the FUTURE of Snowboarding? The Nidecker Supermatic is arguably the most innovative snowboard binding made in the last 30 years. Will they change the industry? How do they perform in powder, chunder, groomers, and cold temperatures? Are they as good as traditional strap bindings? Watch this on-snow review to find out.
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Had to re-upload this after an issue yesterday! I got a tip from Donovan that I need to loosen the middle strap, so stay tuned for an update on how they perform after doing that!
Yes the fitting guide from Nidecker mentions that the middle strap must be loose. It is only there to keep the main strap in the right position.
I love my supermatics. It just takes a few days to get used to the stepping in and out.
They’re growing on me! Update coming soon.
Hi great video and your points are spot on..I bought these in UK a few months ago and used them in France on a 3 week trip.
I'm in my 24th year of boarding and an old books now..bought them as strapping in on traditional bindings was getting tougher.
But like you said I could motor on my twin pig and get in straight off the lift click in on the move.
They are stiffer and in heavy snow you might as you did hop to stamp in 2 clicks..this all got easier and think they are suited to not being over tight for easy access ..so.if you like me tight maybe not so great.
I loved them but probably as I'm less supple but they are great..make your own minds up ..Tony Croft UK
Agreed!
Finally u start reviewing gear
Keep it going bro
Greetings from Serbia 😎
Thanks! Will do! So cool!
I tried the Snow White Tech kit that adapts your existing bindings for fast entry. Not a step-in per say, but I can get in fast, have tight bindings and not have to sit down after getting off the lift. Relatively low cost as well. I like tight bindings as well for control. For taking a look.
I’ve seen that. I’ll have to give it a shot.
I am riding those this season and I already sold my other bindings :)
Nice! Hope you like em!
Interesting how they lock in... I personally bought this season "SP United Mountain double entry" and they feel really good. Easy to step in and out. You can also use them like normal bindings. They are pretty light and very responsive. It just take a bit of time to adjust before the first ride. So you better try them in your living room first. I also noticed that they were a bit narrow so you better get your shoes with you the day you buy them. I usually ride with L binding but with those I had to get the XL as my boot were a bit too large. So I had to move the highback a bit forward to get better board feeling.
Interesting. I’ve never heard of them. They look like flow bindings.
@@BoredProgression yes but 2 straps. They are made in Switzerland.
I've been riding Flow (acquired by Nidecker a while back) Fuse for years. It looks like a ton of the tech was borrowed from the higher-end Flow bindings (footbeds, SLR buckles, AST strap rising mechanics). The only big difference is how you get in and out. I'm not a huge fan of the release, but it should be fairly easy with everything dialed in. The straps should also be adjustable (two or three position) from the bottom of the binding, with the binding off the board. You might want to check that out and mock them up in a controlled environment and give them another shot. Nice work, Dan!
Yeah, I tweaked the middle strap and they were much better! Update coming soon.
@@BoredProgression That's great to hear! I'll keep an eye out for the update!
Love this 👏 As a (very) amateur boarder, I don’t have time to keep up with everything going on with new gear. I’m ready to learn! 🧐
The only recommendation (don’t have to take) is it felt like I was learning about the bindings at the same time as you were. Which isn’t a bad thing but I’m impatient. Tell me about the features after you used them not during😊. Only because the review changes the more you use them as you learn more. Would love a better structure of the video (chapters for topics of the product).
Appreciate this! Yeah I went for more of a “let’s experience this together” vs. a final review. I have another video coming soon with my final thoughts. Thanks for the feedback!
I got these for this season. Yes they are hard to get in and out the very first day or two. Specially if they are new. You literally have to break them in. Also as your update. That middle strap has to be a little loose. Also, making the proper adjustments of the outside buckles prior adjusting the inside ones is a priority. And believe it or not. Making sure sure your pants don’t get cut under the straps makes a huge difference. And yes I know it sounds like a lot but it’s not once you break them in and you pull your pants up when you stepping in. By the 3rd day I was coming off the lift doing a simple lifting of the pants and bang. I was already stationed in and going down the slope while my friends were still strapping in.
Yeah, they got easier with each use, for sure. Stoked to see where the tech goes next!
I have flow step in and gnu, and I like the gnu system better because it does exactly what you are asking for. It lets you set a tight binding then when you lift the back you lock in the ankle strap very tight. I prefer that over the flow as it keeps my heel down much better.
Interesting. I’ll have to try it.
Clew bindings are the best for me..✌️keep shredding..
Right on! Glad you like em!
The best invention they have invented, 95% to 97% works super well, if you want more security tightens them to 100% and ready, the only detail you will have a little more difficulty in entering the boot, but with a little practice, after having gone through the snow, it will be a little easier to enter the boot even if it is tight to 100%, And it responds better than any regular binding and there is no doubt about that.
After tweaking the middle strap, I think you’re right. Update coming in the next video!
The Supermatics might be for people like me. Over tightening causes pain and numbness on my foot so this seems perfect. I don’t need them, but when I ride with skiers they’ll be perfect.
Definitely will be super fast with them!
Over tightening is sometimes compensation for badly fitting boots.
A couple of months ago I bought the Clew bindings and Supermatics and have just tested them out at Brian Head Utah. The Clew bindings were super easy to use and actually felt more responsive as riding goes. The Supermatics were trickier but still easier than the traditional bindings. I think it just takes getting used to it. I'm going to test it out again in March while in Big White Canada and then again at Brian Head at the end of March. I just like the fact that there are people that invent these things, that come up with better ways to strap in and go. Other than having a high back attached to your boots, I really like the Clews.
Yeah, I can't get past the clunky look of them when you're out of the board. I agree though, I think innovation is awesome even if it's not perfect it helps technology push forward.
Which one would you choose now?
Ive used the GnU step ins for a while. Came from Flows. The GnU ones pop open a little more when you step out. Helping with the tightness when entering
Nidecker actually bought Flow. The Gnu looks identical to flow. What’s the difference?
@@BoredProgression the top strap when you open the binding pops open further to help you release your foot. Then you pull up back when you step in then push top buckle down to tighten
Nice vid, thanks for sharing. It was good to see real world tests and scenarios. I bought the Flow NX2 two weeks ago and will be testing tomorrow. I didn't go for the Supermatics as i heard that thr release lever can be a bit of an issue. I'm coming from the K2 Cinch CTX which are similar in operation to the Flows. So lets see how it goes tomorrow. BTW, did you get wear on your boot heel?
Nice. Hope you like em! I didn’t get wear on the boot heel once I loosened the middle strap. I updated my review in the next video based on that adjustment so check it out if you wanna hear my final thoughts on them. I’ll have to try the NX2s if I get the chance!
You really gotta try StepOns with the photon boots. Honestly game changer for me. I went from Union Force bindings with a 32 Lashed Boa (which was honestly a great setup, just had to change for a sizing adjustment) to StepOns and the Photon Soft. Having the ankle strap on the photons is what makes it imo. Dont try step ons without the ankle strap boot. It makes it feel like youre locked into a traditional binding and you get zero heel lift when doing toeside turns. The heelside response is about the same as a strap boot imo, but toeside is insanely responsive because of the way the boot locks in above your achillies. Only thing i would say is if you are a 'soft boot' kinda rider they arent going to be for you. I come from skiing a pair of K2 Recon 130s and really wanted something that could get closer to ski boot stiffness and am super satisfied in that way. Double bonus for now being able to stomp my foot into the binding while going downhill. Did an entire day without my ass in the snow once :D
Good info! If I can demo them I definitely will. Just haven’t had the opportunity yet & not gonna drop the cash to invest in that system.
Yeah the Photon boots are actually harder to get in and out of than ski boots, but totally comfortable; you're just totally locked in and like you said, heel lift isn't a thing with these boots.
Hated the photon boots, toes went numb within 5 minutes.
Guess it's so personal to everyone.
I didn't like the step ons and love the Supermatics. Guess there is a market for everyone and that's good.
Just go out and try them!
I don’t know about these bindings I think I’ll stick to the Malavitas…but that orange jacket and the hoodie you are wearing at the end is heat! 🔥 also this is Snowbird? The terrain looks dope! I need to check that place out! 🤙🏽
Malavitas are decent, but I always had a problem with Burton toe straps coming off while riding. Link to Jacket & Hoodie in the description! & Yeah, this was filmed at the bird. ✌
Had a pair of Supermatics and after a weekend of riding them I sent them back. Super heavy and no where near as easy in and out as Nidecker markets them to be. Agree that they need to be loose enough to get in which is an issue because you lose the responsiveness. It's not the worst iteration of a step-on/through binding but needs some more R&D to decrease the weight and find way to keep them tight while getting in and out. Pro's: Construction is excellent, dual entry is a really nice option. Once your body learns the mechanics it is easy to get in and out but just overall quirky. Cons: As stated quirky in and out. Weight...ugh terrible (believe me you notice it). Pressure points on the heals. After two days my heals were in a lot of pain. Never had this before and switched to traditional bindings (Bataleon Blaster Asym wraps) last week with no heal pain...so not sure why that happened on the SMatics. Overall, not for me but maybe for some one out there. Hope they continue to improve on them as it is a really good idea. Burton Step Ons just arrived so hope they work!
Sorry you had the foot pain. That sucks. I didn’t have that. After I loosened the middle strap, the in & out was much easier. Still not perfect tho. And I got used to the weight but like you said not for everyone.
@@BoredProgression Yeah Second day was much faster. Little tweaks here and there and I really think they have something that could be "the future of snowboarding" but not yet. lol! Thanks for your review! Spot on man.
These should be called stomp ins more than step ins. Also after two days of riding, one light day and one pow day, I found I had to unstrap traditional in heavy snow due to trouble with the lever engaging.
Dang. Did you loosen the “middle” strap as loose as it goes? That made it easier for me.
@@BoredProgression I made sure to do that, but still doesn’t step in. I don’t mind stomping in, it makes sure it’s all the way locked
I’d be awesome to hear your thoughts on the Clew bindings
I think they look dorky as hell. Haha 😂 just being honest. 🤷♂️
Great review. You definitely exposed all the flaws with them, they are heavy, clunky and you have to ride them loose to get in and out. I had the same experience with flow bindings. I am currently riding Burton step ons now, they are seamless getting in and out and very responsive. Down side to Burtons are the boot selection but thats changing with DC and nitro adopting the platform. I would love to see you review the burtons next.
I’m very curious to see if these will be easier after loosening the middle strap. Stay tuned. I’m glad other brands are making boots with the Burton system but I still don’t like the idea of no straps keeping you in. I like the feel of that pressure on top of my feet.
You can ride these very tight if you have them setup properly.
Where is your camera mounted when you're riding solo? Great looking footage.
Thanks! Bite mount. It’s kinda like a mouth guard with a go pro attachment. 🤙 Link in the description below 👇
I’d be interested in seeing how you go with a pair of Flow NX2 bindings, rear entry/step in bindings.
I’m down to try them if I get the opportunity but I don’t think I’d like getting into them on a steep slope as much.
@@BoredProgression They are super easy to get into digging in the toe side of your board.
@@BoredProgression absolutely easy as to get in and out of. I love my Flow NX2 with hybrid bindings, looks like the Nidecker (wouldn’t mind betting there’s a collaboration between them) in a way with all the lockdown clips, however, you have to lift the high back into place. I would guess the Flow high back is more rigid. I’d change my hydrid straps for Flow’s traditional quad strap if I could.
@@Ramsi2377 Nidecker bought Flow, so thats why there are so many similarities.
These are like my Flow bidings from 2003, and I have some newer rear entry has been around for a while. Rather a standard biding, not in that big of a hurry. Idk??
Interestingly, Nidecker now owns Flow. Seems they took the idea and tried to make it better. Maybe they will be on my 3rd go.
Is it bad idea to try these bindings with soft boot? I currently have burton moto boots, and want to try some of the step on/in system. I am on budget so supermatics would be more affordable for me, so i dont need to buy new boots at the same time
I don’t think it’s a bad idea! A softer boot might be nice for a little more flex/play. Shouldn’t compromise the bindings, they’ll just be less aggressive at high speeds.
I like that you can use any boots with these, but I've never been keen on the Flow system. That was an awful lot of stomping you did during the day! You should see if there's a Burton Demo Day coming up, so you can get your feet in a Step-On.
Apparently I had them set up wrong. Loosened the middle strap and they were way easier. Update coming soon. Would try the Burtons on a demo day but I don’t like the idea of a different boot.
I'll add, I've had Burton Step Ons with Photon boots for over a year now (second season using) and would never go back to straps. They are more responsive (sensitive) than straps and something that's not usually mentioned is that they make your setup lighter overall. YT recently fed me a video from another snowboard channel where a guy reviews Step Ons but uses some garbage lace up boot so results were of course mixed. Every other comment let him know that unless you get the good Burton boots like the Photon (I think there's a couple others from Burton) then the test is pretty much worthless so if you do get a chance to review, make sure you get the right boots as that's like half the binding. Regarding the 'toe' strap and liking that tight, personally I don't like bindings super tight but the toe boa on the Photon can get that part of the boot so tight that it hurts the foot so I don't think that would be an issue. Ironically, only slight negative I would add is that it's not always easy clicking in, particularly on uneven or sloped terrain or powder. That said, this is a minor quibble: there's 3 points of connection and you only need to get one in and the other two will connect automatically once you start riding so not a big deal.
The photons were too locked in for me, I ended up getting the swaths. I like the looser feel, and they are still extremely responsive.
Good tips! I don’t like the idea that you are limited to one (or a few) options for a boot tho. Personally I don’t like the way photons look and not everyone’s feet fit the same boots. And to me, the struggle on steep slopes/deep pow is too much of a compromise. I’ll demo them tho if I get the opportunity
@Bored Progression There is no issue getting in to step ons in pow or steep terrain. You just sit down and engage the rear cleat in the binding then stand up. The toes will just click in. You can even pull on the board toward you when sitting to engage the toe clips. They are really a no brainer.
I bought the Burton Step On with the Phontons, but my pinky got hurt so bad, that after 2, 3 hours I had to stop. So I sold the bindings and shoes and am now back at a Flow binding.
A friend of mine got into the Rossi step in decades ago and it didn't really vibe with me. Still to this day 30 years later, they still don't do it for me. Just seems like too many variables at play. I did put some NOW Select Pro on my new Yes PYL yesterday which are both Nidecker, like these bindings on display. So I'm sure these are really good quality.
Nice! Yeah, this is probably the best step in system to date even if it’s not perfect.
@@BoredProgression hmmm well maybe next year I'll check it out.
Did your boots get all chewed up???
Which resort is thos filmed at?
Snowbird
How kinetically connected are you to your board with these bindings?
Board feels like an extension of my body. No play at all. No delay.
@@BoredProgression sweet
I bought the Supermatics and after about 10 days on them, I decided that they’re heavy, and the agility I love to have on my board suffered. So I sold them and went back to my Burton Cartels. In/out wasn’t all that much an issue, but sometimes they wouldn’t release. They’re a good alternative, but I’ll get Step Ons next season
I think I agree. I tried them once more after tweaking the straps and they were way better but still think straps aren’t that much of a hassle.
i can wear my favorite boots 😮
Yup!
I’m kinda on the step on or just traditional straps train… step ons are clean, light, and fast… you can’t go wrong with traditional straps… but this blend of extra weight, extra parts to break, still dealing with adjustments of straps, and high backs that are in your way while skating just isn’t it for me… but if it’s your jam, it’s your jam
To each their own, but the performance of these or any strap binding outperforms stepons IMO.
@@BoredProgression just giving you crap and trying to help the algorithm 🤙
I still prefer a lightweight strap binding. I will never say never. Just not now.
So far, me too!
Clickers are fine
The old K2 clickers?
How is that "the future" ? I can see any step in GNU bindings are much better than that, considering the opening of the GNU opens up when the back of the bindings are down, and they still have straps. So do the Flows and other bindings.
I’m asking if these are the future. Not telling. For some people I think they will be. With those other bindings you can’t strap in like a regular binding when sitting on a steep hill for example.
@@BoredProgression however, those are trash.
Seems like a pretty wonky set up. Good review brother! Kinda weird they would come out with these after Burton more or less perfected their Step On system.
These don’t appear to even come close to being user friendly.
Check out my latest video. I didn’t have them dialed in properly. I think these might be better than Burton’s.
The limited range of boots available for Burton's system is a problem. None of the boots I can buy locally fit my foot shape so that rules out Burton step-on completely for me.
You lose performance vs traditional but those who ride within certain boundaries won't feel it. Like putting a slow, cautious driver in a 500hp car vs a 300hp, they won't feel the difference. Know thy self
Been riding over 25 years, I think I know thyself. They perform well but not everyone is looking for the same thing. For example someone might want more flex laterally than these give or a more dampening footbed. Some people like a muscle car, some like a nimble import. For a step-in binding, they’re more than adequate while riding. Getting in/out of them? I’m not sure yet.
@@BoredProgression I should of been more clear but I was talking generally, not at ya.
But yea im with ya, just gotta be aware of limitations. If someone's riding style fits within the boundaries they will feel these to be perfect. If not, then just like with any other equipment you'll feel like something is lacking
I don’t see how you lose performance when you still have the option to use them as regular bindings…
99% of users will be fine I ride these and average 40mph and hit highs of 60mph and do it all feeling safe with these bindings. They are awesome.
Step one are the best bindings for a boarder in the humble opinion of a skier 😂😈
Skiers don’t get a say. 😂
Lol u tried and adjusted them on yhe slope first? Should adjust them at home first to make it right.. get in and get out. It works for me good, maybe your shoes or adjustment is some kind wrong?
I tried them out in the parking lot first and then had to re-adjust them. I was borrowing them so couldn’t do that at home.
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I saw you at the bird today on a Capita Board. How come you don't rock Capita on videos? You just ride Capita on days your not filming or can you only film your luna boards. What's up with that? Flex a Capita on film if you flex them off film.. truth
Wow. First of all, why didn’t you say 👋 hi? Second of all, I was filming with the Capita DOA. You happened to see the very first day on hill riding it yesterday. It’s literally the next video dropping.
1:08 - Told to look up instructions online.
1:12 - I don't need any instructions.
22:39 - In fact, he needed instructions and proceeded to blame it on lack of instructions in the box. After being told to look them up online.
Guilty as charged. 😝 Still wished there was something more obvious in the box about the middle strap.
@@BoredProgression We are all super guilty of that bro and yes I know, that Nidecker middle strap is something they never mention lol
This review was sponsored by a child…
I’m very skeptical about it
I never tried step ons
Dude just admitted he doesn’t like something because he does t like it despite not even trying it.
Anything you say after that is completely worthless
Sponsored by a child? What on earth are you talking about??
Heavy, but you get used to it. The toe strap goes over the toes, instead of cupping the toes, that's also different. The problem I had was that the stepping in them is not as easy as advertise. Which was the main reason I bought them. Still faster than traditional, first on the slope, but it takes effort, you just get stuck with your heal out. I found myself jumping on the board everything after getting in.
Did you loosen the middle strap buckle? I did and it helped a lot. New video coming to highlight this.
Try the nidecker setup up video on RUclips. Was hard to get in until I adjusted them like in the video. Should honestly have a card in the box telling you to watch the video
Also heavy… like having cement blocks on your feet if you do much jumping..