i personally think Sasuke gets beaten at the fight with Obito/Jinchuriki. This was enough to overwhelm Naruto AND Bee. Not only that but they were getting all sorts of help AND Naruto was gaining power throughout. Sasuke i think might be able to push the Jinchuriki and Obito to pulling out their trump card early but still ultimately lose.
Like I think their mega cooked not going to lie even I don't think he doing anything to Edo nagato and wm Obito would just kill him since he does not need him like Naruto
@@gameuniverse5973 No Such a weak Pull could not even get Naruto into a Rock Sasuke's just going to grab something with greater force than a 6 Tails which is likely above Bro's Pay Grade.
@ZelZ-.-z Edo nagato is above pain obviously with him also pulling kcm one Naruto pretty easily Even tho kcm one Naruto knows about the Rinnegan with it abilities he also confirmed himself stronger to nagato than his pain arc self which you can extend to six tailed Naruto not just sage Naruto
@@gameuniverse5973 Sasuke is above even that KCM Naruto with far more methods his existing Sword, His Susanoo Swords. Infernal STyle shaped into Swords. He could hold himself down like the Kurama Majestic Attire did for it's Bijuu Bomb in STorm 4 but to a higher degree and worst case worse he might just Pop out a Perfect Susanoo.
everyone starts somewhere he seen six and took bits and parts of what he does but still manages to add his own pieces of information work etc into it you know
I wish that you guys went a bit deeper and talked about how some interactions might've gone. For example, how exactly would Sasuke breakthrough A3’s Lightning armor? Would Sasuke use enton or shoot an arrow? Could chidori mess with the lightning armor? Also how would Sasuke deal with chubakutensei? I suppose he could probably destroy it with a combination of enton and arrow. I really would've liked to hear your take on this stuff. Still a great video, and I was hyped to see that you got six on the channel!
10:45 Just because the vision went out does not mean he would specifically know where Itachi is coming from, then being caught unawares when an arm rips from his back. Itachi can curve shuriken essentially endlessly, so even if they are close it does not mean they would see him when they are hit. 12:57 Nagato might just be able to absorb it by putting up a barrier which was able to negate a point-blank Lariat; Danzō was still able to activate jutsu when the arrow was fired at him. 13:21 Does not really matter if he would just push it off/absorb it all the same. Might not have enough force on his own to destroy the Chibaku Tensei, either. 15:00 Nagato can just close his eyes, he was able to sense the build-up of chakra against Itachi, and just have an animal see for him from another angle. 17:21 The Six Paths of Pain reflects the user in general. Nagato casts non-Rinnegan jutsu through Pain. It would thereby reflect their chakra, which is the means in which dōjutsu manifest. Nothing said it is limited to just the Rinnegan. 19:20 Naruto's Version 1 cloak blocked Amaterasu. The anime is probably just wrong, or at least cannot be taken as gospel either way. 22:08 Like that... 21:32 They are bound by Obito. Sasuke probably cannot overpower his control, since Obito is even stronger than Itachi in that regard, compared to Madara. 25:30 As noted in the databook file for the Sharingan Reflection (Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change), one's one potency/power with genjutsu relates to its effectiveness. Since Obito has the highest level of genjutsu, he could probably reflect it even if he is caught.
Also if you're talking about Naruto Blocking Amaterasu with his Kurama Shroud in the Final Valley. 1: Sasuke was fatigued. 2: Naruto was the target not the Kurama Shroud. 3: It likely could have burned through that if Sasuke could keep focusing and add it to the target to burn through to get to Naruto but he was fatigued. 4: This is post Six Paths Naruto using a different Kurama's Chakra. 5: Full Bijuu Transformation Bee was being Burned by Ama so the V2 States probably aren't tough enough to take on this Power if they are the targets. 6: Naruto is still scared of Itachi's Amaterasu when he's in a form above Kurama Shroud in KCM next to BEE!
1. Sasuke's Amaterasu is probably more potent by that point regardless, but if not, it does mean it can have a limit, whilst Obito has six Edo Tensei that can both regenerate and restore themselves with the Rinnegan. 2. Then Obito can just drop the shroud to make the attack essentially fizzle. 3. The claim being made is that Amaterasu could instantly down a Version 2. That he could use Blaze Release, which is beyond Amaterasu, is irrelevant to the point. 4. Naruto was not using Sage of Six Paths Mode by that point. 5. Version 2 might actually be more durable as the chakra is more condensed; Naruto's Version 2 blocked Orochimaru's sword that could even hurt Enma without a scratch, whilst B's full transformation was cut off by a Chidori Eisō which is weaker than the regular Chidori which he uses for his Chidori Katana for his sword. They are also just constantly ragdolled in the war in general, though I suppose this is all conjecture. 6. Naruto did not have full control over Kurama's chakra by that point, so he might not know "globbing" was an option. Better be safe than sorry.
@@Arcadia_warlic His 5 Barrier Seal. Who's to say the Pains did that? 30% Clones. Once again it seems like from the explanation he sort of directly connects himself to Itachi and Kisame living beings not Pains. 9 Phantom Dragon Seals might be something but also Pain is never the sole one and the rings might be important to that.
Do we have to bring out the scan again mister six which you translated e made it worse Frog song the ultimate genjutsu this was when tsuko was a thing and even kotas also I think
@Virhtue genjutsu needs a medium. Most of the time, it's sight, but it can also be sound, smell, or maybe even touch (izanami?). Special eyes counter genjutsu cast through sight, but it doesn't grant any resistance to genjutsu cast through other mediums. Therefore, frog song can affect pain. But all genjutsu used by itachi and sasuke are cast through sight, therefore the effect of nagato would be little to none, depending on how well he's using the rinnegan.
@@quelqunx7470 I dont care about the medium here, Im talking about Frog Song. Frog Song should be the strongest Genjutsu in the series besides Tsukiyomi if I recall correctly. Him getting cause in that as his pains, doesnt mean he doesnt have good Gen Resistance
EMS Sasuke could track Juubi Obito on par with BSM Naruto (chapter 650) & KCM doesn't have Kurama avatar to match Susano. Nagato isn't grabbing him like the Biju boys so he would do more combos with Itachi and Bee to win quicker. And we already saw Bee run away low on stamina stating a holding back Sasuke still weakened from Itachi was probably his toughest opponent (chapter 415 page 12, chapter 419 page 17) before Sasuke ever used Susano so you shouldn't even pretend he's stronger than him with EMS.
Pre 5 Kage summit Sasuke was said by Tobi and Zetsu to be approaching the level of Nagato. They needed to manipulate him before he surpassed Nagato's strength. EMS Sasuke is tiers above that version.
EMS Sasuke could track Juubi Obito (on par with BSM Naruto, chapter 650) so he's spotting and reacting to anyone before. His Susano also develops quicker since he's in more battles. Easy wins til the Edo Jinchuriki, but Tobi is forced to transform them sooner. Transformed Bee & Sasuke with Full Body Susano combats them. With Kakashi & Guy jumping in. Tobi withdraws them to prep Ten Tails and with Sasuke they deduced Kamui quicker but instead of breaking the mask he slicings Tobi's head off.
@@_JonJon_ That's probably not true. If his Ocular potency improves even through his EMS That's just how it works once he gets his Rinnegan he's tracking and reacting to someone far stronger and faster in Madara and then later Kaguya so that's just a level above.
Kurama didn't use Sharingan abilities through such things so that's likely a visual design showing change and not a physical Sharingan. Also if that were the case wouldn't it be possible it would overwrite the Edo Tensei Scalera and change their eyes to match? Or possibly even if in one pannel be drawn differently as a variant of the user's Eye color?
Yeah, but that was under genjutsu; so another argument could also be that Obito genjutsu’s them to control them and force them to utilize their biju abilities
Great video and awesome collab. Genuine question cause I feel like I missed something but maybe im being dumb and not remembering. How do we know that cave itachi is physically faster than sasuke in the cave, was there a feat or something that put him above? genuinly would like to know.
So I agree with you, I think the way Six worded that is weird and I’ve also said I don’t think Itachi is necessarily faster it’s just the two are relative as that also more so fits with the fatabooks interpretations aswell but I think Six, is maybe arguing for when they first met and Itachi countered and smacked away EMS Sasuke’s Susanoo hand using his three Tomoe Susanoo hand. He also can save Sasuke from the inorganic animation and what not.
If he overuses Sharingan too much he's at risk of blindness and Chakra so he'd get tired real quickly as the War goes on compared to Naruto who had Kurama.
@@VirhtueI think they would see his susanoo coming since they have sharingan (read movements) & rinnegan so if one sees them the others does as well but the thing is even if they see him they still can’t stop him lol.
How did Naruto knowing about Rinnegan help when he's so dumb (which he even admitted) that he still used Rasengan anyway after getting caught? With Susano Sasuke's not being grabbed & after Bee got his chakra absorbed Sasuke would know about it. What speed feats do the Jin have to keep them being snipped by arrows from a Sasuke with far superior eyes?
Yeah, that is true. He didn’t even a fight, a rinnegan user until jubito the question is though is it gonna be at full power or is it gonna be nerf like Naruto was well I guess it doesn’t matter EMS sasuke can’t beat nagato
EMS sasuke is definitely stronger than kcm1 naruto, but sasuke wouldn't be able to use clones to fight all these guys at the same time in different places. So Naruto's abilities are better for the war arc. Kcm2 naruto is definitely stronger than EMS sasuke tho. Although, as his EMS matures and his susanoo grows, he could surpass kcm2 naruto. But kcm2 + sage mode naruto is pretty insane. Sasuke would NEED to have a perfect susanoo to go up against that
1:00 Itachi didn't fight Naruto? Uh they did have a brief taijutsu exchange and Itachi tried to use the Mangekyou Sharingan on Naruto but the crow came out of his mouth and freed Itachi.
Baby EMS is stated above nagato I wish you drove the point home with kabuto stating he had better ocular abilities than nagato offensively and defensively instead of glazing over it once
you overgrade sasuke a lot, naruto did as well as he did because he had killer bee at his side you re saing that sasuke will do better alone compared to two skilled powerfull jinchuriki you re delisuonal he doesn"t have the stamina of a jinchuriki he started he war after jubbi gets resurected naruto nd bee way before that
You said Nagato felt the need to use chibki tensi. Only kabuto was in control so…. For you to use that as if that says something about the hand swipe is insane. This video sucks
@ he said the amtaratsu was just as likely to crack the 3rd raikages armor as the rasen shuriken. How? How does he figure that? It’s not even the same kind of attack. Also I’d argue kabuto would expect it. But he says it like a 100% certainty. Also he legit says he sometimes he takes anime only scenes into account but this time he isn’t, doesn’t that make all the videos meaningless then? When rules change video to video?
Ngl I’d have to REALLY be convinced that EMS sasuke beats KCM 1 Naruto. In a context situation Naruto wasn’t going all out until he got to the battle field with the bijuu.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNarutocope harder😂.kcm is faster higher power output more stamina than ems sasuke😂and bees power out put is way above anything ems sasuke has.ems sasuke struggles with one bijuu bomb
That's a lie/misconception and if you mean sequentially I just think about it's like him being teleported and Zetsu or someone else like Jugo or Karin refilling him for each match.
Let my Boy Kabuto run the Gauntlet of Old Kage's he'll get out with a high % Rate on them. Sakura should win. Wow Mei. I think Suigetsu might be stronger? I don't know about. 5, 6, ... I don't think 7 is that weak. Another Kakashi Video. Oooh Orochimaru has some interesting win cons. I wonder if we know about Gengetsu. I think Guy Solo's I'm on the Lowest Durability Hashirama Agenda. Yagura might fair better than the 3 Tails but it's tough to say they win without dying the best I could see them doing is trying to bait Deidara to use a Bomb then using Water Mirror to make a wild explosion that might kill them but I doubt that. Besides that even with Full Transformation I don't think they could do much Better Deidara could just launch C3 and cower away on Dragons and Birds.
You want an answer to these, they are just super random but I mean Kabuto, Sakura, Mei, Chojuro, Kurotsuchi, Konohamaru, Shin and can’t see the rest while typing
God the glaze is something else First you blatantly are forgetting there edos saying nagato is getting burned by amaterasu when his letting it happen. second he can repel all of Sasuke arsenal why cant nagato just go invisible? and itachi didn't uses genjutsu on nagato hmm wonder why. Third the big one how is he destroying planetary devastation hes not
@Virhtue nagato flat out states to Naruto itachi was using amaterasu then looks surprised that he didn't meaning under normal circumstances Nagato knows what ability itachi is using he's not trying to stop itachi we literally see he can repel the flames even after they've been on him so yes he let that happen
Later version of Sasuke would win. Not the Sasuke against Kabuto. Nagato survived the amaterasu, went invisible before any of the other ninjas could capitalize, reappear then used Shinra Tensei. Amaterasu is even getting absorbed by Nagato. Also, only audio genjutsu affected the pains,not ocular. Sasuke can't destroy Chibaku tensei either.
Bro I’m sorry.. sasuke is not beating edo Nagato by hisself. Not only was Nagato being controlled, but kabuto said things like “what other tricks can he do again” and “there’s that jutsu where he creates a planet to trap them” as if he had to remember what jutsu he could use and couldn’t think of the name of one.. that’s like me not saying rasengan and saying there’s that jutsu where you make a ball of concentrated chakra.. Nagato literally no diffs kcm naruto and v2/base bee.. idk if sasuke could do that even with his dojutusu/ninjutsu being over itachi’s. Keep in mind this is a one rinnegan v2 absorbed Nagato and not 2 rinnegan.. we saw what kakashi and obito both said about having both rinnegan .. like.. bro.. the dude sasuke is going up against.. has both.. these eyes.. and sasuke is still suppose to just magically come out on top by himself when the two top jenchuriki can’t .. :? lol na bro I’m going with Nagato on this one
@@_JonJon_ What do you mean he only uses 1 Rinnegan when he fights them? Not only does he use multiple abilities but he has 2 Rinnegan in his eyes he's using them along with he's using the Animal Path and the shared vision along with the King of Hell's Shared Vision I think. 1 Rinnegan is a Sasuke thing and his Rinnegan is special.
@ Bro no.. during the battle he has one rinnegan covered by his hair, just like kakashi has his sharingan covered. He only uses 2 rinnegan when he absorbs v2 bee chakra .
I'm trying to figure out how we're placing Sasuke's genjutsu on the level of Itachi simply because of them putting each other under genjutsu. Wouldn't in this case they be willingly falling under it's effects because they want it to overwrite Kabuto's genjutsu? If two characters are said to be roughly equal in power, that means they have equal stats in every single category? And where did it say that Sasuke is at the pinnacle of skill in terms of genjutsu? Sharingan Genjutsu will never be on the level of Tsukuyomi for the simple fact that the user cannot use it to manipulate perception of time.
We are going off the basis that Itachi has to try his utmost when his MS is out due to the fro command and the two react at the exact same time and move equally within the genjutsu
@@Virhtue According to what? Itachi wanted Sasuke to break his genjutsu and vice versa... Those genjutsu were cast with the sole purpose of the target breaking free.
Am surprise I haven't seen any Naruto content creator who have correctly interpreted the Itachi vs Nagato fight. But am definately not surprise Itachi fans don't get it not these Virtue and Six
I remember seeing a video about how in an early one on one itachi wins but as more time passes in the fight nagato wins as he has more win cons that requiere setup while itachis best are for surprises and blitzes. I thought that was a kinda fair interpretation although I am partial to nagato.
@@hectorlackless That rule won't work on Nagato. Ameterasu is useless against him,. Susanoo too is useless and we don't know if Itachi's genjutsu would work
I feel like I sub to a higher interpretation of the Base forms of the Jins due to their captures being so offscreened and maybe countered so Yugito could have just been a dumbass who was angered and chased in her thing popped Bijuu Transformation beliving it would work. Wasted her Chakra and ran out of her Bijuu Timer. Got nicked with Blood once. And then lost the battle from there regardless of how well she was doing before. 3 Tails was just in a Lake. 4 Tails had to fight KISAME! 5 Tails was offscreend. 6 Tails was offscreened. 7 Tails was offscreened. 8&9 Took differnet routes one of them being MADARA! That Sharingan thing is interesting I've never thought of that. Sasuke really going about this far differently. You just showed what I feel like is the Manga equivalent of that Anime Scene with the Leech Slip! I just watched the Scene again because I've been on the agenda that this isn't that impressive first he one shots Paths that are pretty Weak in the Human I think and the Naraka. He does it from an offguard and Pain never seems to struggle despite being all 6 paths at once being a bigger split of Chakra in a different area likely far from the Rain and due to that we might not be able to scale just how strong Pain is and they likely went in on a quick crashout not really planning to lose. Them getting away from the Chameleon's Grip if they can burn and mess with Gyuki honestly isn't that shocking. But it doesn't mean that they would have the chance to get away from Sasuke knowing KCM Naruto had tension lines when Itachi's Susanoo grabbed him and if you replaced that Sasuke could probably pull a similar feat and keeping KCM Naruto in your grip is probably far harder than Utakata even with the Slip. Skeletal Susanoo by the way. So I think that Blue state might just be how the Anime translates that Jutsu. Or a mix of that and maybe something akin to how the 4 Tails Naruto split into a second 4 Tails. I don't even know if that ability has a cannonically name despite being used to cut Orochimaru in half. No confirmed Genjutsu Res! Sasuke did alright. These are kinda fun.
KCM Naruto - grabbed because he doesn't have Susano to block, yet still wins in combo with Bee and Itachi after Itachi saves them. But somehow with Sasuke they don't win despite Nagato being unable to grab him.
Sasuke definitely was on deaths door, the 4th raikage was about to kill sasuke before gaara saved him let’s not forget. Further more the raikage only lost his arm because he chose to chop through sasukes rib cage. Sasuke was never winning that fight. Ays wrecklessness is what caused him to lose the fight
If each fight in the war was a stand alone fight i would say Sasuke could do it, but to do it all like Naruto did... I dont believe he has the stamina for that.
Sasuke wins each of those battle quicker because he's smarter and stronger. Ay is unable to get passed Susano. Third Raikage is immediately pierced just as Sasuke attempted the Fourth at the Summit. Edo Nagato wouldn't be able to grab him like Naruto and Bee so Sasuke would combo attack more with Itachi & Bee. Similar for the Jinchuriki fight and with Sasuke there, they deduce Kamui sooner but instead of a Rasengan to the mask Sasuke slices his head off.
Let me post this here for everyone to see. The reason why Edo Itachi was able to beat Edo Nagato Edos are programmed not to attack other Edos. Itachi broke free so he didn't need to follow that rule. But Nagato was still bound and therefore could not fight against Itachi. This is the reason why Nagato couldn't defend himself against Itachi's ameterasu. This is why Kabuto had to take control of him. Think about this. Kabuto simply used shinra tensei to push the black flames away. Why couldn't Nagato do it himself. The only reason is because he was attacked by an Edo which shouldn't have been possible. That created a loophole in the edo tensei technique. Its like a software that develops a bug all of a sudden. So Nagato couldn't react to it because Itachi was still an Edo but was free. Kabuto knew this so he quickly took over. If he hadn't Nagato wouldn't have been able to attack Itachi at all. To prove this point. Read Naruto chapter 525 page 22. The 4 kages wanted to fight each other but they couldn't. So imagine if one of them was freed like Itachi was, that one could have killed all the others and they couldn't have defended against him.
@ no you made the claim of edo’s are programmed not to attack other edo’s, therefore there is a burden on you to prove that point first, so please where is that ever stated
With respect guys, the Sasuke d!*k riding is going too far lol just because Sasuke’s ocular Justus “surpassed” his brother’s doesn’t mean he’s surpassed him in overall combat prowess.
From the video it seems that you replaced bee itachi and naruto against nagato, so sasuke would have no wincon since he doesnt have any sealing jutsu and nagato is just gonna regen. He also has no knowledge on the rinnegan abilities something which severly messed with naruto who should know añl of them by know. The only way this fight ends is if nagato regains conciousness and decides to commit sepuko like hanzo, unironically. If itachi was really just speed blitzing nagato he wouldnt need to blindside him the 2 times he attacked. Naruto and bee also comment on how strong nagato was once he regained his body. Its also kinda baseless to assume that just cause itachi could use a stronger version of the beads that he'd just once shot chibaku tensei. It would be like me asserting that because nagato destroyed naruto he'd be mastered kcm 1 or kcm 2 level. Also kabuto wouldnt be as good at using the abilities like nagato would.
@@Virhtue amaterasu?? He just absorbs that thou even if you wanna ckaim sasuke spears him like in the snime version of fv nvs. He still just absorbs it like in the fight itself.
Chibaku tensei GG , Saskue has 0 answer for that.All of Saskues ninjutsu gets absorbed and unlike Naruto he has no idea of the rinnegans abilities and how to counter them with every time Nagato absorbs his chakra he becomes stronger. To argue genjutsu works you would have to prove that Saskue can genjutsu someone with the chakra level of Nagato ,that he can catch him looking at Saskue’s eyes and prove that his genjutsu would even work on Madara’s rinnegan( Nagato has Madara’s Rinnegan)……. The same Madara who could resist the infinite Tsukoyomi with the same rinnegan.Saskue is not beating Nagato far less a hypothetical Nagato not being poorly controlled by Kabuto.Bad matchup for Saskue.
What was Naruto's brilliant counters to Rinnegan? Using Rasengan after easily being grabbed by Asura path as his soul was almost taken from him until Itachi with Susano, which Sasuke has by the way, saved him because he doesn't have a defense like Susano. >Hypes Chibaku Tensei as if it wouldn't be countered the same way except Sasuke shots arrow(s) instead of RasenShuriken.
Madara was the caster of Infinite Tsukuyomi and had a RinneSharingan Eye or Rinnegan users are just immune to that Genjutsu it doesn't put his Genjutsu res into question and technically the Edo's Rinnegan's are fake/replica's which might not scale their powers or Genjutsu to the OG especially since Frog Song caught Victim.
Prove he’s fast enough to use it, Sasuke has better answer than Itachi, his Yasaka beads blew up 33% of the CT, being generous to the CT. Sasuke’s Susanoo arrow can be fired two at a time, so I mean, 66% is crazy
@ Nah lazy video gets lazy comments….but comment nonetheless 😛. But I’ve seen mixed reviews from the comments. In my opinion Sasuske gets stopped at Nagato. If not Nagato than Obito and Jinchuuriki. He doesn’t clear
I like the ideas of these videos thinking that its gonna be varient a person vs varient b person and that itll be their intelligence and experience and what skills and jutsu they have vs each other. When it ls just a bunch of word mosh of how this guy scales to that guy its so insanely boring.
I think rinnegan has genjutsu resistance because if Itachi is such a big brain he would’ve used a genjutsu that makes nagato fight along side them in the war instead of just sealing him away in a realm of drunken dreams👍👍. The argument is if Itachi is vastly smarter and faster he would’ve just genjutsu blitzed nagato. Keep in mind Itachi basically uses genjutsu in all his fights and didn’t use it against someone he’s blitz levels above 👍👍
These are all battles Naruto won so obviously his superior rival whose undefeated against him (6-0), would do even better. Not only is he like always, smarter, more talented & has better abilities/skills, but he was also definitively stronger. Are you hyping the foes? Third & Fourth Raikage (lightning masters whom Sasuke beat in their own field since the timeskip with Kirin) are obvious wins. Edo Nagato has the other commenters revved up (they also posted dumb one-liner responses to a very well thought out & long video). So maybe that's your issue? Sasuke was paired up with the guy who ran from him and his less intelligent & talented brother. With them Naruto won even without Kurama Avatar which is Susano's equivalent. Tobi? Bee destroys the forest clearing the way for the Edo Jins to get snipped by arrows. Forced to transform then sliced with Susano sword. When Tobi pulls them back and fights himself Kamui would be deduced even quicker with Sasuke and Kakashi there (both smarter than Shikamaru by the way). But instead of a Rasengan to the mask Sasuke cuts his head off.
He did that with KCM. A mode inferior to EMS which could track Juubi Obito on par with BSM Naruto (chapter 650) & has Susano which is equivalent to the Kurama avatar that KCM lacks. If a Naruto-Itachi-Bee combo can beat Nagato obviously a Sasuke-Itachi-Bee combo would do better.
The glaze for naruto is crazy " single handedly?" Naruto thought he could stop the war by himself and almost loses his life against edo nagato in seconds and is saved by edo itachi 😂😂😂 sasuke is on par with naruto through the show
@brysonbender7715 so Naruto didn't sent shadow clones to every front and won those encounters? You're a smooth brain. And Sasuke doesn't have the Shosui Crow, he loses at Nagato and Itachi. Smooth brain
I love when people misspeak in a video because I do that shit all the time and it feels so relatable so thanks for leaving it in
Brother if it makes you feel better usual solo videos have like 20 audio cuts due to that
@ I bet, it’s hard to speak for 30 minutes and not make mistakes
i personally think Sasuke gets beaten at the fight with Obito/Jinchuriki. This was enough to overwhelm Naruto AND Bee. Not only that but they were getting all sorts of help AND Naruto was gaining power throughout. Sasuke i think might be able to push the Jinchuriki and Obito to pulling out their trump card early but still ultimately lose.
Like I think their mega cooked not going to lie even I don't think he doing anything to Edo nagato and wm Obito would just kill him since he does not need him like Naruto
Kcm1 naruto and bee
Why so?
Fire topic my man! Can't wait to start watching this video!
Only reason why id let the nagato loss slide is because Sasuke has itachi and killer bee with him. If this was a 1 on 1, Nagato hands down gg no re.
If Genjutsu is the win con I could see Sasuke doing it fast enough and possibly breaking one Chibaku if he's fast enough on the uptake.
@@ZelZ-.-znooooooo he going to get pulled in immediately and get all his chakra absorb he not winning this fight at this stage
@@gameuniverse5973 No Such a weak Pull could not even get Naruto into a Rock Sasuke's just going to grab something with greater force than a 6 Tails which is likely above Bro's Pay Grade.
@ZelZ-.-z Edo nagato is above pain obviously with him also pulling kcm one Naruto pretty easily
Even tho kcm one Naruto knows about the Rinnegan with it abilities he also confirmed himself stronger to nagato than his pain arc self which you can extend to six tailed Naruto not just sage Naruto
@@gameuniverse5973 Sasuke is above even that KCM Naruto with far more methods his existing Sword, His Susanoo Swords. Infernal STyle shaped into Swords. He could hold himself down like the Kurama Majestic Attire did for it's Bijuu Bomb in STorm 4 but to a higher degree and worst case worse he might just Pop out a Perfect Susanoo.
Yo big six and mini six w duo (great vid virhtue)
Yo whatttttt
everyone starts somewhere he seen six and took bits and parts of what he does but still manages to add his own pieces of information work etc into it you know
I wish that you guys went a bit deeper and talked about how some interactions might've gone.
For example, how exactly would Sasuke breakthrough A3’s Lightning armor? Would Sasuke use enton or shoot an arrow? Could chidori mess with the lightning armor?
Also how would Sasuke deal with chubakutensei? I suppose he could probably destroy it with a combination of enton and arrow.
I really would've liked to hear your take on this stuff.
Still a great video, and I was hyped to see that you got six on the channel!
Six’s voice gets deeper and deeper every video
😭😭
It's the chakra build-up in his throat.
Six collab is huge. Your name getting out there bro get that bag 🔥
Let’s go, I’m excited to see what comes next!
10:45 Just because the vision went out does not mean he would specifically know where Itachi is coming from, then being caught unawares when an arm rips from his back. Itachi can curve shuriken essentially endlessly, so even if they are close it does not mean they would see him when they are hit.
12:57 Nagato might just be able to absorb it by putting up a barrier which was able to negate a point-blank Lariat; Danzō was still able to activate jutsu when the arrow was fired at him.
13:21 Does not really matter if he would just push it off/absorb it all the same. Might not have enough force on his own to destroy the Chibaku Tensei, either.
15:00 Nagato can just close his eyes, he was able to sense the build-up of chakra against Itachi, and just have an animal see for him from another angle.
17:21 The Six Paths of Pain reflects the user in general. Nagato casts non-Rinnegan jutsu through Pain. It would thereby reflect their chakra, which is the means in which dōjutsu manifest. Nothing said it is limited to just the Rinnegan.
19:20 Naruto's Version 1 cloak blocked Amaterasu. The anime is probably just wrong, or at least cannot be taken as gospel either way. 22:08 Like that...
21:32 They are bound by Obito. Sasuke probably cannot overpower his control, since Obito is even stronger than Itachi in that regard, compared to Madara. 25:30 As noted in the databook file for the Sharingan Reflection (Demonic Illusion: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change), one's one potency/power with genjutsu relates to its effectiveness. Since Obito has the highest level of genjutsu, he could probably reflect it even if he is caught.
When does Nagato cast Non-Rinnegan Jutsu through Pain outside of the Anime?
Also if you're talking about Naruto Blocking Amaterasu with his Kurama Shroud in the Final Valley.
1: Sasuke was fatigued.
2: Naruto was the target not the Kurama Shroud.
3: It likely could have burned through that if Sasuke could keep focusing and add it to the target to burn through to get to Naruto but he was fatigued.
4: This is post Six Paths Naruto using a different Kurama's Chakra.
5: Full Bijuu Transformation Bee was being Burned by Ama so the V2 States probably aren't tough enough to take on this Power if they are the targets.
6: Naruto is still scared of Itachi's Amaterasu when he's in a form above Kurama Shroud in KCM next to BEE!
His Five-Barrier Seal, his 30% Clones, the Nine Phantom Dragons, et al.
1. Sasuke's Amaterasu is probably more potent by that point regardless, but if not, it does mean it can have a limit, whilst Obito has six Edo Tensei that can both regenerate and restore themselves with the Rinnegan.
2. Then Obito can just drop the shroud to make the attack essentially fizzle.
3. The claim being made is that Amaterasu could instantly down a Version 2. That he could use Blaze Release, which is beyond Amaterasu, is irrelevant to the point.
4. Naruto was not using Sage of Six Paths Mode by that point.
5. Version 2 might actually be more durable as the chakra is more condensed; Naruto's Version 2 blocked Orochimaru's sword that could even hurt Enma without a scratch, whilst B's full transformation was cut off by a Chidori Eisō which is weaker than the regular Chidori which he uses for his Chidori Katana for his sword. They are also just constantly ragdolled in the war in general, though I suppose this is all conjecture.
6. Naruto did not have full control over Kurama's chakra by that point, so he might not know "globbing" was an option. Better be safe than sorry.
@@Arcadia_warlic His 5 Barrier Seal. Who's to say the Pains did that?
30% Clones. Once again it seems like from the explanation he sort of directly connects himself to Itachi and Kisame living beings not Pains.
9 Phantom Dragon Seals might be something but also Pain is never the sole one and the rings might be important to that.
Intriguing as always. Just like the one on Six’s channel. You two should collaborate more often.
Definitely should be
Saying he doesnt have good genjutsu resistance cause he got caught in Frog Song is insane LMAO.
Do we have to bring out the scan again mister six which you translated e made it worse
Frog song the ultimate genjutsu this was when tsuko was a thing and even kotas also I think
Six is just opening the possibility that his brain can be affected by genjutsu
@Virhtue genjutsu needs a medium. Most of the time, it's sight, but it can also be sound, smell, or maybe even touch (izanami?). Special eyes counter genjutsu cast through sight, but it doesn't grant any resistance to genjutsu cast through other mediums. Therefore, frog song can affect pain. But all genjutsu used by itachi and sasuke are cast through sight, therefore the effect of nagato would be little to none, depending on how well he's using the rinnegan.
@@quelqunx7470 I dont care about the medium here, Im talking about Frog Song.
Frog Song should be the strongest Genjutsu in the series besides Tsukiyomi if I recall correctly.
Him getting cause in that as his pains, doesnt mean he doesnt have good Gen Resistance
“My most special guest yet”
Sounding so excited with that 😂. Great as always guys!
Ahahaha well I mean, that’s just how it is
0:36 “that is me I am 6”
HAHAHA!
Ahh yes
Nice to see the part II of the collab.
For sure
A feature from SIX yeah this vid is fire.🔥🔥🔥
For sure
This sasuke beating edo nagato? You are really a sasuke fan hahaha and it was kabuto using nagato and not nagato by himself
Oh well if you want to make it just Nagato, you realize he can’t walk right?
@@Virhtue But he can fly
If a KCM Naruto with Bee and Itachi's help can win then obviously EMS Sasuke can.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto KCM Naruto and Bee are among the most powerful in the series. EMS Sasuke isn't stronger than both of them
EMS Sasuke could track Juubi Obito on par with BSM Naruto (chapter 650) & KCM doesn't have Kurama avatar to match Susano. Nagato isn't grabbing him like the Biju boys so he would do more combos with Itachi and Bee to win quicker.
And we already saw Bee run away low on stamina stating a holding back Sasuke still weakened from Itachi was probably his toughest opponent (chapter 415 page 12, chapter 419 page 17) before Sasuke ever used Susano so you shouldn't even pretend he's stronger than him with EMS.
Just found your channel today at work. Love your content already, it gives me good vibes💯
Let’s go! Welcome aboard and I hope you find some content to enjoy my friend!
Unironically, EMS Sasuke does really well thanks to that Itachi scaling even when his eyes are fresh
Always like the video b4 it start❤
Appreciate you! 🙏
@@Virhtue 🫡
One of the best collaborations yet
Let’s go, glad you enjoyed it. More to come for sure!
Virtue, when that SwagKage collab coming, lol
Sometime next week
Pre 5 Kage summit Sasuke was said by Tobi and Zetsu to be approaching the level of Nagato. They needed to manipulate him before he surpassed Nagato's strength. EMS Sasuke is tiers above that version.
EMS Sasuke could track Juubi Obito (on par with BSM Naruto, chapter 650) so he's spotting and reacting to anyone before. His Susano also develops quicker since he's in more battles. Easy wins til the Edo Jinchuriki, but Tobi is forced to transform them sooner. Transformed Bee & Sasuke with Full Body Susano combats them. With Kakashi & Guy jumping in. Tobi withdraws them to prep Ten Tails and with Sasuke they deduced Kamui quicker but instead of breaking the mask he slicings Tobi's head off.
Majestic Attire Gyuki sounds hype as shit.
He probably wouldn't use it though since he got the idea from Hashirama.
Yeah, that’s after the area of EMS we are talking about, because mastered EMS is crazy
realistically speaking no version of sasuke before rinnegan sasuke is tracking a stable juubito/BSM naruto.. bro the hype is real ..
@@_JonJon_ That's probably not true. If his Ocular potency improves even through his EMS That's just how it works once he gets his Rinnegan he's tracking and reacting to someone far stronger and faster in Madara and then later Kaguya so that's just a level above.
Abt the projection thing, didn't Kurama's eyes change into sharingan when obito hypnotised it with sharingan genjutsu?
Kurama didn't use Sharingan abilities through such things so that's likely a visual design showing change and not a physical Sharingan. Also if that were the case wouldn't it be possible it would overwrite the Edo Tensei Scalera and change their eyes to match? Or possibly even if in one pannel be drawn differently as a variant of the user's Eye color?
@ZelZ-.-z Yeah, that makes sense
Yeah, but that was under genjutsu; so another argument could also be that Obito genjutsu’s them to control them and force them to utilize their biju abilities
Great video and awesome collab. Genuine question cause I feel like I missed something but maybe im being dumb and not remembering. How do we know that cave itachi is physically faster than sasuke in the cave, was there a feat or something that put him above? genuinly would like to know.
So I agree with you, I think the way Six worded that is weird and I’ve also said I don’t think Itachi is necessarily faster it’s just the two are relative as that also more so fits with the fatabooks interpretations aswell but I think Six, is maybe arguing for when they first met and Itachi countered and smacked away EMS Sasuke’s Susanoo hand using his three Tomoe Susanoo hand. He also can save Sasuke from the inorganic animation and what not.
So in the whole war hes never gonna run out of chackra
If he overuses Sharingan too much he's at risk of blindness and Chakra so he'd get tired real quickly as the War goes on compared to Naruto who had Kurama.
No
Sasuke wouldn’t even know what the rinnegan is and every Jinkuriki sharingan will see his Susanoo coming 😂 wth are yall glazing 😂
Prove that???
@@VirhtueI think they would see his susanoo coming since they have sharingan (read movements) & rinnegan so if one sees them the others does as well but the thing is even if they see him they still can’t stop him lol.
How did Naruto knowing about Rinnegan help when he's so dumb (which he even admitted) that he still used Rasengan anyway after getting caught? With Susano Sasuke's not being grabbed & after Bee got his chakra absorbed Sasuke would know about it. What speed feats do the Jin have to keep them being snipped by arrows from a Sasuke with far superior eyes?
Yeah, that is true. He didn’t even a fight, a rinnegan user until jubito the question is though is it gonna be at full power or is it gonna be nerf like Naruto was well I guess it doesn’t matter EMS sasuke can’t beat nagato
@@TRJ42and obito didnt use any rinnegan abilities. Infact his introduction to rinnegan abilities killed him.
What a great video Idea 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks goat
A controlled nagato is trash; free will nagato is only represented accurately in storm
Well I usually take the canon form
“Free will” nagato can’t walk…
And kabuto is generally smarter than nagato BIQ wise
So he’d actually perform bettter with a controller sticked in
EMS sasuke is definitely stronger than kcm1 naruto, but sasuke wouldn't be able to use clones to fight all these guys at the same time in different places. So Naruto's abilities are better for the war arc. Kcm2 naruto is definitely stronger than EMS sasuke tho. Although, as his EMS matures and his susanoo grows, he could surpass kcm2 naruto. But kcm2 + sage mode naruto is pretty insane. Sasuke would NEED to have a perfect susanoo to go up against that
Kcm naruto did alot bro more than ems sasuke.based on feats(power output,stamina,physical speed) kcm1 naruto is above ems sasuke
Kcm2😂 anything that ems sasuke has kcm2 can counter
Agree KCM2 is definitely stronger but, I would have to say that I think Sasuke’s abilities are atleast fit
can you do battle like shisui vs minato kid forms
I’ve discussed this matchup in some sense before with my buddy Sage of Thick Calces on his video about the prodigy Chunin exams
@@Virhtue oh thanks been looking for those type of videos
My goat 😩😩
W
1:00 Itachi didn't fight Naruto? Uh they did have a brief taijutsu exchange and Itachi tried to use the Mangekyou Sharingan on Naruto but the crow came out of his mouth and freed Itachi.
Yeah, Six was more or less saying he has a fight with Bee not really with Naruto
I havnt watched video but i when i seen six i hoped so much that this isnt a “data book” and this guy scales to this guy so he wins vid
Baby EMS is stated above nagato I wish you drove the point home with kabuto stating he had better ocular abilities than nagato offensively and defensively instead of glazing over it once
Lastly the rinnegan while directly isn't stated to have genjitzu resistance It isn't stated to not have it either.
All we no that no one tried....
you overgrade sasuke a lot, naruto did as well as he did because he had killer bee at his side you re saing that sasuke will do better alone compared to two skilled powerfull jinchuriki you re delisuonal he doesn"t have the stamina of a jinchuriki he started he war after jubbi gets resurected naruto nd bee way before that
Then debunk my scaling, can’t just make a claim out of nowhere, use no evidence and call me delusional my friend
You said Nagato felt the need to use chibki tensi. Only kabuto was in control so…. For you to use that as if that says something about the hand swipe is insane. This video sucks
That's a pretty small mistake in the grand scheme of the video man
@ come bro you have ears. There were many more random things said that don’t at all make sense.
@ he said the amtaratsu was just as likely to crack the 3rd raikages armor as the rasen shuriken. How? How does he figure that? It’s not even the same kind of attack. Also I’d argue kabuto would expect it. But he says it like a 100% certainty. Also he legit says he sometimes he takes anime only scenes into account but this time he isn’t, doesn’t that make all the videos meaningless then? When rules change video to video?
@@jaioncebollero1168 He was saying those attacks are similar in AP to the Sage Mode Rasengan Naruto used to beat the Third Raikage
I respect your opinion, but I disagree.
Ngl I’d have to REALLY be convinced that EMS sasuke beats KCM 1 Naruto. In a context situation Naruto wasn’t going all out until he got to the battle field with the bijuu.
What does kcm2 have to grow a blitz level in ten chapters
The Sasuke Meat Riding is CRAZY, dude is not stronger than Naruto And Bee maybe one or the other but both Nahh
EMS Sasuke could track Juubi Obito on par with BSM Naruto (chapter 650) & KCM doesn't have Kurama avatar to match Susano.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNarutocope harder😂.kcm is faster higher power output more stamina than ems sasuke😂and bees power out put is way above anything ems sasuke has.ems sasuke struggles with one bijuu bomb
Ems sasuke is weaker than both😂
Why
Sasuke don’t have the stamina or Charka reserve for most of these fights
That's a lie/misconception and if you mean sequentially I just think about it's like him being teleported and Zetsu or someone else like Jugo or Karin refilling him for each match.
@@ZelZ-.-zit's true cope harder😂
Why? When has this Sasuke gassed out💀
Video idea: madara vs green ninja ( this is a joke).
1. 2nd Tsuchikage Muu vs Sage Kabuto.
2. Sakura (War Arc) vs 5 tails jinchuriki Han (Edo).
3. Darui (War Arc) vs Mei Terumi (War Arc).
4. Chojuro (Boruto Era) vs Suigetsu (Boruto Era).
5. Yamato vs Kurotsuchi (War Arc).
6. Konohamaru (Boruto Era) vs Konan.
7. Kakuzu vs Shin Uchiha (Boruto).
8. Kakashi (War Arc) vs Killer Bee (War Arc).
9. Orochimaru (War Arc) vs Ohnoki (War Arc).
10. Hiruzen (Nine tails attack) vs Gengetsu Hozuki (War Arc Edo).
11. Might Guy (8 gates) vs Hashirama (Final Valley).
12. Deidara vs Yagura.
Let my Boy Kabuto run the Gauntlet of Old Kage's he'll get out with a high % Rate on them.
Sakura should win.
Wow Mei.
I think Suigetsu might be stronger?
I don't know about. 5, 6, ... I don't think 7 is that weak.
Another Kakashi Video.
Oooh Orochimaru has some interesting win cons.
I wonder if we know about Gengetsu.
I think Guy Solo's I'm on the Lowest Durability Hashirama Agenda.
Yagura might fair better than the 3 Tails but it's tough to say they win without dying the best I could see them doing is trying to bait Deidara to use a Bomb then using Water Mirror to make a wild explosion that might kill them but I doubt that. Besides that even with Full Transformation I don't think they could do much Better Deidara could just launch C3 and cower away on Dragons and Birds.
You want an answer to these, they are just super random but I mean Kabuto, Sakura, Mei, Chojuro, Kurotsuchi, Konohamaru, Shin and can’t see the rest while typing
@@Virhtue thanks, how about the rest of them ?
God the glaze is something else First you blatantly are forgetting there edos saying nagato is getting burned by amaterasu when his letting it happen. second he can repel all of Sasuke arsenal why cant nagato just go invisible? and itachi didn't uses genjutsu on nagato hmm wonder why. Third the big one how is he destroying planetary devastation hes not
Yo in can’t prove he let it happen and it makes almost no sense
@Virhtue nagato flat out states to Naruto itachi was using amaterasu then looks surprised that he didn't meaning under normal circumstances Nagato knows what ability itachi is using he's not trying to stop itachi we literally see he can repel the flames even after they've been on him so yes he let that happen
Later version of Sasuke would win. Not the Sasuke against Kabuto. Nagato survived the amaterasu, went invisible before any of the other ninjas could capitalize, reappear then used Shinra Tensei. Amaterasu is even getting absorbed by Nagato. Also, only audio genjutsu affected the pains,not ocular. Sasuke can't destroy Chibaku tensei either.
Bro I’m sorry.. sasuke is not beating edo Nagato by hisself. Not only was Nagato being controlled, but kabuto said things like “what other tricks can he do again” and “there’s that jutsu where he creates a planet to trap them” as if he had to remember what jutsu he could use and couldn’t think of the name of one.. that’s like me not saying rasengan and saying there’s that jutsu where you make a ball of concentrated chakra.. Nagato literally no diffs kcm naruto and v2/base bee.. idk if sasuke could do that even with his dojutusu/ninjutsu being over itachi’s. Keep in mind this is a one rinnegan v2 absorbed Nagato and not 2 rinnegan.. we saw what kakashi and obito both said about having both rinnegan .. like.. bro.. the dude sasuke is going up against.. has both.. these eyes.. and sasuke is still suppose to just magically come out on top by himself when the two top jenchuriki can’t .. :? lol na bro I’m going with Nagato on this one
What do you mean 1 Rinnegan Nagato he has 2 Rinnegan.
@ he only uses 1 when he is fighting them
@@_JonJon_ What do you mean he only uses 1 Rinnegan when he fights them?
Not only does he use multiple abilities but he has 2 Rinnegan in his eyes he's using them along with he's using the Animal Path and the shared vision along with the King of Hell's Shared Vision I think. 1 Rinnegan is a Sasuke thing and his Rinnegan is special.
@ Bro no.. during the battle he has one rinnegan covered by his hair, just like kakashi has his sharingan covered. He only uses 2 rinnegan when he absorbs v2 bee chakra .
Nagato just doesn’t have the stats
I'm trying to figure out how we're placing Sasuke's genjutsu on the level of Itachi simply because of them putting each other under genjutsu. Wouldn't in this case they be willingly falling under it's effects because they want it to overwrite Kabuto's genjutsu? If two characters are said to be roughly equal in power, that means they have equal stats in every single category? And where did it say that Sasuke is at the pinnacle of skill in terms of genjutsu? Sharingan Genjutsu will never be on the level of Tsukuyomi for the simple fact that the user cannot use it to manipulate perception of time.
We are going off the basis that Itachi has to try his utmost when his MS is out due to the fro command and the two react at the exact same time and move equally within the genjutsu
@@Virhtue According to what? Itachi wanted Sasuke to break his genjutsu and vice versa... Those genjutsu were cast with the sole purpose of the target breaking free.
Am surprise I haven't seen any Naruto content creator who have correctly interpreted the Itachi vs Nagato fight. But am definately not surprise Itachi fans don't get it not these Virtue and Six
I remember seeing a video about how in an early one on one itachi wins but as more time passes in the fight nagato wins as he has more win cons that requiere setup while itachis best are for surprises and blitzes. I thought that was a kinda fair interpretation although I am partial to nagato.
@@hectorlackless That rule won't work on Nagato. Ameterasu is useless against him,. Susanoo too is useless and we don't know if Itachi's genjutsu would work
>Says Susano is useless despite Itachi beating Nagato with it
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@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc I think the blitz attacks that itachi has in this case are tsukyomi and totsuka blade
@@SamuelQuaye-zs4uc There is I think as of now no confirmation Susanoo's can ever be absorbed. Ontop of that their striking speed is far too fast.
Why does it seem like all the Naruto RUclipsrs are forced to be friends for collab clicks and they don’t even try to hide it
Ahhahahaaa
I feel like I sub to a higher interpretation of the Base forms of the Jins due to their captures being so offscreened and maybe countered so Yugito could have just been a dumbass who was angered and chased in her thing popped Bijuu Transformation beliving it would work. Wasted her Chakra and ran out of her Bijuu Timer. Got nicked with Blood once. And then lost the battle from there regardless of how well she was doing before.
3 Tails was just in a Lake.
4 Tails had to fight KISAME!
5 Tails was offscreend.
6 Tails was offscreened.
7 Tails was offscreened.
8&9 Took differnet routes one of them being MADARA!
That Sharingan thing is interesting I've never thought of that.
Sasuke really going about this far differently.
You just showed what I feel like is the Manga equivalent of that Anime Scene with the Leech Slip!
I just watched the Scene again because I've been on the agenda that this isn't that impressive first he one shots Paths that are pretty Weak in the Human I think and the Naraka.
He does it from an offguard and Pain never seems to struggle despite being all 6 paths at once being a bigger split of Chakra in a different area likely far from the Rain and due to that we might not be able to scale just how strong Pain is and they likely went in on a quick crashout not really planning to lose.
Them getting away from the Chameleon's Grip if they can burn and mess with Gyuki honestly isn't that shocking. But it doesn't mean that they would have the chance to get away from Sasuke knowing KCM Naruto had tension lines when Itachi's Susanoo grabbed him and if you replaced that Sasuke could probably pull a similar feat and keeping KCM Naruto in your grip is probably far harder than Utakata even with the Slip.
Skeletal Susanoo by the way.
So I think that Blue state might just be how the Anime translates that Jutsu. Or a mix of that and maybe something akin to how the 4 Tails Naruto split into a second 4 Tails. I don't even know if that ability has a cannonically name despite being used to cut Orochimaru in half.
No confirmed Genjutsu Res!
Sasuke did alright. These are kinda fun.
Not including itachi is weird, he fights Naruto and only breaks out because of Naruto having the crow
Because we wanted to focus more on Nagato to give him a better chance bc with Itachi they blitz Nagato stupidly fast
Maxes out at Nagato
Why so?
W argument
@@Virhtuenot worth an argument and you know that
KCM Naruto - grabbed because he doesn't have Susano to block, yet still wins in combo with Bee and Itachi after Itachi saves them. But somehow with Sasuke they don't win despite Nagato being unable to grab him.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNarutookay tell me will Susano magically mean gravity no longer works on him why would he not be pulled in
If I’m wrong the aye it is what it is but the only reason itachi does fight Naruto is cuz of the bird and kotomasukami
I assume you meant Nagato but yeah, and we are swapping Naruto, Bee and Itachi with Sasuke
Wait so saskue beat edo madara? When he is first sommon in the third rikage fights????
No I explicitly changed the form of EMS Sasuke
Six? Here? Yeah, let's not. Dude sucks.
Six is fire
@@Virhtue Nah, YOU'RE fire, TG also. Six is a bum.
I disagree.@@shlonkyplonky
you're a bum
Sasuke definitely was on deaths door, the 4th raikage was about to kill sasuke before gaara saved him let’s not forget. Further more the raikage only lost his arm because he chose to chop through sasukes rib cage. Sasuke was never winning that fight. Ays wrecklessness is what caused him to lose the fight
He gets packed up by the 3rd raikage
why so?
Ems Sasuke would win just with a Genjutsu and Susanoo arrows if he can track third Raikage's speed.
Why
I love the raikage, but Sasuke is gonna win in a fight against him.
so many Nagato glazers in this comment section
There usually are, for no reason
Kabuto VS Nagato?
That’s a good one, but Kabuto beats him up
If each fight in the war was a stand alone fight i would say Sasuke could do it, but to do it all like Naruto did... I dont believe he has the stamina for that.
Sasuke wins each of those battle quicker because he's smarter and stronger. Ay is unable to get passed Susano. Third Raikage is immediately pierced just as Sasuke attempted the Fourth at the Summit. Edo Nagato wouldn't be able to grab him like Naruto and Bee so Sasuke would combo attack more with Itachi & Bee. Similar for the Jinchuriki fight and with Sasuke there, they deduce Kamui sooner but instead of a Rasengan to the mask Sasuke slices his head off.
They are just stand alone fights to see if he can beat them
@@Virhtue no doubt he could step in for any single Naruto clone 😂
Let me post this here for everyone to see. The reason why Edo Itachi was able to beat Edo Nagato
Edos are programmed not to attack other Edos. Itachi broke free so he didn't need to follow that rule. But Nagato was still bound and therefore could not fight against Itachi. This is the reason why Nagato couldn't defend himself against Itachi's ameterasu. This is why Kabuto had to take control of him. Think about this. Kabuto simply used shinra tensei to push the black flames away. Why couldn't Nagato do it himself. The only reason is because he was attacked by an Edo which shouldn't have been possible. That created a loophole in the edo tensei technique. Its like a software that develops a bug all of a sudden. So Nagato couldn't react to it because Itachi was still an Edo but was free. Kabuto knew this so he quickly took over. If he hadn't Nagato wouldn't have been able to attack Itachi at all.
To prove this point. Read Naruto chapter 525 page 22. The 4 kages wanted to fight each other but they couldn't. So imagine if one of them was freed like Itachi was, that one could have killed all the others and they couldn't have defended against him.
You can’t prove that first point
@@Virhtue i gave you a chapter and a page. Go read it
@ no you made the claim of edo’s are programmed not to attack other edo’s, therefore there is a burden on you to prove that point first, so please where is that ever stated
@@Virhtue Read Naruto chapter 525 page 22.
@@Virhtue Read Naruto chapter 525 page 22.
With respect guys, the Sasuke d!*k riding is going too far lol just because Sasuke’s ocular Justus “surpassed” his brother’s doesn’t mean he’s surpassed him in overall combat prowess.
Yeah and we never said that
Sasuke would have never gotten out of that barrier used to seal tailed beast... Without the barrier counting... Sasuke would have gotten captured
Maybe
Nagato slander
Why so?
If he meets nagato AND itachi together tho
He’s cooked
If Itachi is there aswell, but for this discussion it’s just Naruto
@@Virhtue
*nagato
From the video it seems that you replaced bee itachi and naruto against nagato, so sasuke would have no wincon since he doesnt have any sealing jutsu and nagato is just gonna regen. He also has no knowledge on the rinnegan abilities something which severly messed with naruto who should know añl of them by know. The only way this fight ends is if nagato regains conciousness and decides to commit sepuko like hanzo, unironically. If itachi was really just speed blitzing nagato he wouldnt need to blindside him the 2 times he attacked. Naruto and bee also comment on how strong nagato was once he regained his body. Its also kinda baseless to assume that just cause itachi could use a stronger version of the beads that he'd just once shot chibaku tensei. It would be like me asserting that because nagato destroyed naruto he'd be mastered kcm 1 or kcm 2 level.
Also kabuto wouldnt be as good at using the abilities like nagato would.
Six literally gave a wincon
@@Virhtue amaterasu?? He just absorbs that thou even if you wanna ckaim sasuke spears him like in the snime version of fv nvs. He still just absorbs it like in the fight itself.
There's one little problem with Sasuke. He can't win fights.
He literally does win fights
I stopped at sasuke beating Edo nagato. I can’t take the cap.
Well the whole shinobi alliance is cooked
Maybe
Chibaku tensei GG , Saskue has 0 answer for that.All of Saskues ninjutsu gets absorbed and unlike Naruto he has no idea of the rinnegans abilities and how to counter them with every time Nagato absorbs his chakra he becomes stronger. To argue genjutsu works you would have to prove that Saskue can genjutsu someone with the chakra level of Nagato ,that he can catch him looking at Saskue’s eyes and prove that his genjutsu would even work on Madara’s rinnegan( Nagato has Madara’s Rinnegan)……. The same Madara who could resist the infinite Tsukoyomi with the same rinnegan.Saskue is not beating Nagato far less a hypothetical Nagato not being poorly controlled by Kabuto.Bad matchup for Saskue.
What was Naruto's brilliant counters to Rinnegan? Using Rasengan after easily being grabbed by Asura path as his soul was almost taken from him until Itachi with Susano, which Sasuke has by the way, saved him because he doesn't have a defense like Susano.
>Hypes Chibaku Tensei as if it wouldn't be countered the same way except Sasuke shots arrow(s) instead of RasenShuriken.
Madara was the caster of Infinite Tsukuyomi and had a RinneSharingan Eye or Rinnegan users are just immune to that Genjutsu it doesn't put his Genjutsu res into question and technically the Edo's Rinnegan's are fake/replica's which might not scale their powers or Genjutsu to the OG especially since Frog Song caught Victim.
Prove he’s fast enough to use it, Sasuke has better answer than Itachi, his Yasaka beads blew up 33% of the CT, being generous to the CT. Sasuke’s Susanoo arrow can be fired two at a time, so I mean, 66% is crazy
This video is nonsense and very lazily made with a high bias.
Then try to debunk anything
@ Nah lazy video gets lazy comments….but comment nonetheless 😛.
But I’ve seen mixed reviews from the comments.
In my opinion Sasuske gets stopped at Nagato. If not Nagato than Obito and Jinchuuriki. He doesn’t clear
Damn, virtue here using child labor to make his videos lol.
Algo.
Huh
@@Virhtue
Algorithm, boosting the reach of the vid to a wider audience, when people comment and interact, the more people your vid would reach.
instant like comment for my goat.
Appreciate the love!
This video is just made by Sasuke glazers for Sasuke glazers this guy literally doesn't make it pass the 4th raikage and definitely not the 3rd
Prove that, give me any evidence you would use to support your claims
First
Let’s go
I like the ideas of these videos thinking that its gonna be varient a person vs varient b person and that itll be their intelligence and experience and what skills and jutsu they have vs each other. When it ls just a bunch of word mosh of how this guy scales to that guy its so insanely boring.
Interesting
the glaze to edo itachi smh he is not stronger than Nagato lmao
Doesn't need to be to win the 3v1 battle.
Facts nagato mid diffs itachi
Nagato is the Goat fr.
Unfortunately for that argument
Itachi is stronger
Why?
I think rinnegan has genjutsu resistance because if Itachi is such a big brain he would’ve used a genjutsu that makes nagato fight along side them in the war instead of just sealing him away in a realm of drunken dreams👍👍. The argument is if Itachi is vastly smarter and faster he would’ve just genjutsu blitzed nagato. Keep in mind Itachi basically uses genjutsu in all his fights and didn’t use it against someone he’s blitz levels above 👍👍
Why so
Nah I strongly disagree with Sasuke defeating Nagato
Why
@ because he doesn’t beat Nagato. You’re just fanboying
L video sasuke glaze
These are all battles Naruto won so obviously his superior rival whose undefeated against him (6-0), would do even better. Not only is he like always, smarter, more talented & has better abilities/skills, but he was also definitively stronger.
Are you hyping the foes? Third & Fourth Raikage (lightning masters whom Sasuke beat in their own field since the timeskip with Kirin) are obvious wins. Edo Nagato has the other commenters revved up (they also posted dumb one-liner responses to a very well thought out & long video). So maybe that's your issue?
Sasuke was paired up with the guy who ran from him and his less intelligent & talented brother. With them Naruto won even without Kurama Avatar which is Susano's equivalent. Tobi? Bee destroys the forest clearing the way for the Edo Jins to get snipped by arrows. Forced to transform then sliced with Susano sword.
When Tobi pulls them back and fights himself Kamui would be deduced even quicker with Sasuke and Kakashi there (both smarter than Shikamaru by the way). But instead of a Rasengan to the mask Sasuke cuts his head off.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto😂😂😂cope
Then debunk it
@op•
Kindly debunk all of virhtues claims????
>Cope
With what? You guys denying reality? I'm mocking you as the joke you are.
Based on the comments is Nagato being overrated by the viewers of the video ?
Absolutely, people will always see Nagatk as who they see in their head, not who’s in the manga
Sasuke loses at Nagato and Itachi 😂 Naruto single handedly changed the course of the whole war, Sasuke wouldn't do much
He did that with KCM. A mode inferior to EMS which could track Juubi Obito on par with BSM Naruto (chapter 650) & has Susano which is equivalent to the Kurama avatar that KCM lacks. If a Naruto-Itachi-Bee combo can beat Nagato obviously a Sasuke-Itachi-Bee combo would do better.
The glaze for naruto is crazy " single handedly?" Naruto thought he could stop the war by himself and almost loses his life against edo nagato in seconds and is saved by edo itachi 😂😂😂 sasuke is on par with naruto through the show
@brysonbender7715 so Naruto didn't sent shadow clones to every front and won those encounters? You're a smooth brain. And Sasuke doesn't have the Shosui Crow, he loses at Nagato and Itachi. Smooth brain
Maybe, but what do you think this?