I think that “stomp” is a strong word to use. They re likely at the same level, but sasuke should be ahead, as he would have won but also damaged. To consider a stomp sasuke should be able to win without a trouble, what’s not the case
Stomped his reputation. "No one has ever survived Liger Bomb." Says Darui. Yet Sasuke tanked it. Ay is the fastest shinobi alive. Says Shee. Yet Sasuke evaded him & countered his attacks multiple times. Ay is the Lightning Kage. Yet Sasuke used a lightning jutsu to pierce his lightning armor showing greater lightning mastery. Ay is a brawler known for his nintai-jutsu. Yet Sasuke pierces his defense drawing blood whereas he has to sacrafice his arm to do the same.
Respect to Ay, I have no idea how he kept a straight face against Sasuke.This man literally gave up an arm and nearly his whole body just to do any kind of damage to the man who hurt his brother.
@@Virhtuebtw I don’t think the enton spikes would have pierced the raikage because it’s fire. It’s still a GAS not a solid so Ay would have easily went through it.
0:34 Saying he would have won if it gone on longer after he got "help" from Gaara is not exactly fair. 2:08 That C did not see Minato directly does not mean he would be spouting misinformation. 9:29 It probably would have decapitated him if the Susanoo did not brace the blow. 10:30 I would not say it is complete if he is coughing up blood. 11:25 The next chapter leading statement questions if Sasuke's quest has ended. That is, I think the Guillotine Drop would have killed him, and A would have lost his leg. It probably would not pierce right through him as chakra is able to interact with other chakra, like how Tsunade was able to bat away Madara's Fire Release, so it probably would have just coated his leg instead. 12:48 Gaara's sand bullets are not the same as using it defensively. 13:05 May end up going blind first. He definitely would have run out of stamina since he did by the time he was facing Mei, which would cause his Susanoo to degrade, whilst A only needs one more good hit. 13:47 That narrative is fine after he evolves more, even if he would have lost that specific engagement.
@@b-lotus5145 "If you had continued your attack, you would have been further injured by black flames. Plus, there's something I'd like to ask Uchiha Sasuke." No he did not.
@@b-lotus5145 the anime makes it look like he would've fell on the flame, the manga shows pretty clearly that the spike was focused on his leg. Ay was gonna sacrifice his leg to kill Sasuke
I do not agree with the points at all. Raikage tanks Chidori to his chest completely then grabs Sasuke and make a perfect attack, Sasuke “Survives” and he gets the point because he survived and dodged the second attack.
@ he already hit through amaterasu covered rip cage and made Sasuke cough blood. I dont see why he cant do the same thing in his literal next attack. The fight wouldve been a draw if Gaara didnt interfere. Sasuke surpasses Ay with his Susanoo evolve tho
@calebwilliams790 sasukes susanoo ribcage broke to a chop i am sure I don't need to tell you that a full force stomp is far more powerful and destructive then a basic chop. So, if sasukes susanoo ribcage was breached and shattered by a chop a full power stomp slash drop kick would anhilate sasuke, the susanoo, the amaterasu and probably collapse the floor and building.
@IllusorySpectre yes it did. And sasuke got neck chopped. And he tanked it. Why?? Because susanoo took initial force of the hit. The raikage would be fully engulfed in the black flames even if it didn't pierced him. Just like itachi was able to survive kirin even though it demolished his susanoo ribcage
@@calebwilliams790 not sure about if we're going off of the Manga or if it's even different, but in the anime sasukes rib cage didn't seem like it was complete. It looked like the ribs in the front werent formed yet leaving it unguarded.
Enton makes the flames solid. We see this in the war where he created arrows, a sword, sliced Kaguya's ice and pierced Naruto's clones. >Demolished Itachi's ribcage I don't see why would he risk using something that low when he has the armored form & the "invincible" Yata Mirror.
@@Virhtue Where? he was in the floor bleeding and coughing blood and if gaara doesnt interfere raikage would have hit sasuke and kill him and for sure raikage would die after that unless he gets healed by shee
>Says he couldn't keep up while downplaying a move he was able to use because he could keep up >Says it was his only hope despite seeing him activate Skeleton Susano seconds later *when needed* >Says Enton wouldn't work even though Sasuke chose to use it despite having a much better option 😆😆😆
If Ay's simple lateral chop broke through the ribcage and had Sasuke coughing up blood through it, I'm pretty sure the Guillotine Drop would've just straight up killed him. The Enton spikes were focused on his leg, so while yes, Ay would've lost his leg and have to retire as a ninja, Sasuke would've been turned to paste. Gaara blocking Ay's kick isn't an anti feat either, since he was able to block Madar's Susanoo attacks and even Sage Madara's Susanoo sword when he tried to take Shukaku
Sasuke also could’ve EASILY oneshot Ay, Cee, and Darui if he simply controlled the flames that were still burning Ay’s arm. It really would’ve been the ultimate uno reverse. And It’s really only times like these that flame control could TRULY shine. But kishimoto only allows sasuke to use it for bs like flame swords. And Kishimoto REALLY ripped sasuke off with his second MS ability, but I digress. Sasuke controlling the Amaterasu AFTER shooting it at someone would catch pretty much ANYONE off guard. But it’s just one of those times where sasuke’s abilities HAVE to be nerfed in order for the plot to proceed. Like kishimoto removing the 6 paths abilities from adult sasukes arsenal. Realistically, how does sasuke even lose with such hacks and raw power? But again, I digress lol.
Sasuke would have tanked Ay's Guillotine Drop and his Susano'o would have just evolved similarly to when it did after Gaara, Darui, Temari & Kankuro all fired attacks at him after.
Sasuke is downplayed in every battle (by commenters) unless it's something extremely obvious like Rinnegan Sasuke vs baby Naruto. Even then some people would say Kurama would catch him off guard.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto You the most bias person here your name is literally Sasuke I’m not believing a word you say. You ultra glazing a Killer Bee victim.
>Ignores context while calling the other person bias The irony. "Killer" Bee ran away low on stamina stating a holding back Sasuke still weakened from Itachi was probably his toughest opponent (chapter 415 page 12, chapter 417 page 19). Got one-shotted with Genjutsu the moment Sasuke finally activated Mangekyo. Saved by Hachibi then set ablaze by Amaterasu forcing him to flee. Sasuke could have done this the moment he saw him. Raikage with foreknowledge needed V2 to evade Amaterasu. Bee's finished if Sasuke launches it on his head. Tentacle hide and seek won't work in this case.
13:46 Naruto said he needed Kurama to fight him (chapter 490 page 14) & based on Sasuke's Skeleton Susano, let alone the armored version Danzo faced, Gaara believed Madara's would *tank* Sage Mode RasenShuriken (chapter 560 page 13).
Nah this so fine but they don’t translate to each other, firstly him needing the nine tails to beat Sasuke is not referencing power but rather the need to conquer what’s inside him, this narrative is perpetuated through the Tenchi bridge recon arc by the end and similar to the pain arc where Naruto realizes that every time he lets the nine tails take over, it never ends well and he ends up hurting those around him, Naruto had to ideologically conquer Sasuke
Yeah, he needs to conquer what's inside him - Kurama, for a needed power-up because Susano tanks his strongest attack in his strongest mode. He can't win ideologically if he's inferior physically. That's why they resolved things when they were "equal" at the Valley.
What does that matter if it’s a part of his kit? That’s like saying the Raikage needed his Lightning cloak otherwise Sasuke would’ve pierced his heart in their first exchange. Not a good argument bro.
Fire video obviously Nothing I can add to the subject, I would like to however, put my observational hat on and make an assertion for the camp of Five kage summit gaara, feel free people to disagree in the comments or just not read - Id just like ppls opinion on this. 9:15 - this is the moment in question, the ambigious gaara's sand scalling. First off all I would like to give the simple fact to the jury that FKS Gaara > Kazekage retrieval Gaara. This may seem obvious but some people think he like kakashi remain stagnant and even if you argue "we never see him train on screen" we do know that this Gaara is no longer afflicted by shukaku messing with his sleep and psyche and we know that Mental is just as important as physical so even if you say he never trains, he would still be stronger as his mental side of chakra has advanced to due having a better mindset but also not having a demon messing with him. And we see in the war arc how Gaara's mental state improving can GREATLY improve his power. So FKS Gaara is > KR Gaara: Therefore it;s possible for him to be quicker and such. Now to get to the point of the feat. I would like to argue that Gaara's sand IS more likely than not V2 raikage level speed or between V1 and V2 speed: at least for the raikage from the summit since he constantly trains and gets stronger, so specifically is V2 or firmly above V1 from the summit. The reason for stating this is that what people say is V2 level speed is usually not V2 level speed. Ayy is aiding his V2 speed with bodyflicker which could be another reason for why he stops before attacking at 7:45 (Along with what Virhtue stated above) as we would have a similar situation to the Deidara fight where Sasuke's movement is slower while slashing with his sword which is why gaara can react better since it's no longer body flicker. Since in the guiotine drop it's not only an attack but also not a dashing run motion or a straight line dash or leap which is what body flicker is shown to look like (such as minato moving from next to kushina to being on the wall in a straight line motion, or sasuke dashing forward to attack tobi and deidara as well as raikage dashing around himself by running when he uses body flicker in the summit) It seems it has to be Ayy's speed utilising just his V2 assisted speed. As well sasuke is shown being able to erect his amaterasu flames extremly easily in response to the drop even though he is suffering from the previous lateral bolt and effects of the MS, it seems to be shown as an easier move to react to which makes sense if it is not assisted by body flicker. Coupled with the fact that Gaara is able to defend from the amaterasu wisps (as TG and I think Virthue calls them) with his sand as well which must be at least relative to other amaterasu attacks since sasuke comments on him being able to react to and block them with a compliment about gaara's absolute defense standing strong, I argue that Gaara's sand Is definiatly if not as fast as V2 definately far above V1 HOWEVER: it is not above V2 + body flicker. The only thing against this idea is the ambiguity of where the send was and when it was unleashed but coupled with how gaara does with amaterasu shortly after. I would at least like to say it is not a bad take to certainly put him above V1 raikage firmly. Thats what i've got to say, Sorry if its a long read but i've been thinking about this for a while. Appreciate anyones feedback on my ideas here. (Also FKS gaara > deidara maybe?) Have a nice day people, feel free to roast, just tryna get better at understanding naruto scaling like the rest of y'all.
I think putting his sand above or around V one is a pretty solid Take. However, I do find it to be a stretch to claim that kage summit Gara’s sand is v2 level. That claim might be true during the war, but there just isn't enough evidence to suggest that it is during the summit.
@@Virhtue Third Raikage Hellstab has more ap/piercing power than 4th Raikage lightning cloak punches. And we know in Naruto, piercing attacks don’t have many anti feats.
Funny how people assume he'd just blast through the amaterasu spikes(ehich we know have physical presence) and the susanno when he couldn't blast through a small portion of Gaara's sand
@marqusmedina5983 does amaterasu appearing on you held physical force, no it doesn't unlike the guiotine drop. Hell in the manga Sasuke doesn't even use amaterasu on Gaara he uses enton to move amaterasu at Gaara not instantly make it appear on him
@@jiero3253 its doesnt matter. fact of the matter is amaterasu didn't have enough energy to move gaaras sand, shit was useless against it. Gaara sand defensively is massively above raikage, amaterasu, and susanoo rib cage at least. So you can't use gaara to put raikage beneath sasuke because gaara sand out scales BOTH of them. Realistically sasuke would need susanoo arrow or maybe the fists from skeletal to damage gaara and sasuke didnt get arrow till the summit was over.
Gaara's sand is the Ultimate Defence, blocks even stronger Susanoo in the war. Only Sasuke says they are comparable, and he is not exactly a reliable narrator.
This fight always anoys me since sasuke could not physically keep up so he just turtled up instead. The raikage could have just waited and sasuke would have ran out of chakra and went blind and then proceed to get bodied. Since he had to get recovered during the summit itself and spent most of it running around getting beat by every kage and saved.
@@IllusorySpectre dude you realize Sasuke might outlast raikage because he has similar stamina also Gaara could not beat Sasuke. Also you realize I could say something similar that Raikage just decided to use speed instead of strength trying to fight Sasuke but he used speed because he was a coward right?
>Gives Raikage insight on Sasuke's chakra reserves and blindness that he has no way of knowing >Claims every Kage beat him even though no one even touched him aside from the Raikage at the cost of an arm Why are you like this?
@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto I only speak facts. Mei burned him and melted his susanoo he was forced to retreat. Onoki was going to atomise sasuke, but obito saved him. White zetsu had to attach to others and give sasuke Chakra back because sasuke was already reaching his limit. He ran from gaara. The only kage he fought and beat was danzo, and yet even their he still had to be healed and replenished by Karin before that and get saved by obito against danzos' final technique Sasuke literally lost to every kage at the summit or would have lost if others had not intervened and saved him multiple times. The reality is that sasuke was outclassed by every kage and only survived because he had allies with him who had to keep bailing him out of trouble that he got himself into. Literally, the only one he stood a chance against was Ayy, and that is sorely because Ayy is a mele fighter and sasuke happens to have a perfect counter for Ayy in particular. That counter is turtling up since he can't compete in speed, strength, or stamina. None of his long-range ninjutsu can even hit Ayy. So, he can only play defense.
@@Redoren966what in the world gives you the idea that sasuke and ay are similar when it comes to stamina and charka? 🤣 what pack you smoking? Sasuke at no point during the story ever!!! To be said to have charka reserves similar to a tailed beast
>Too strong Had to sacrafice a limb to even touch Sasuke. >Too fast Had to sacrifice a limb because he couldn't blitz Sasuke. >Would have killed Sasuke Completely stopped by a little sand. Enton Spikes>Sand.
Boy was coughing up blood from a standing still karate chop😂.If that high speed axe kick came down sasuke would be done. Ay at best would lose a leg.Worse they both die. And even then if ay just used a little more brain power he wouldn’t of lost any limbs.
Im hyped for this video. For a decade it's pissed me off the ppl try to act like A did well in that fight. He fought like a moron. Bee did way better against sasuke than A did. The worst case scenario for that fight was a draw double death. More likely A dies and the susano mitigates enough of the final blow for Sasuke to get healed by Karin and keep going.
Bro, Sasuke was a sixteen year old going up against a 50 something year old Kage who is insanely buff to the brim and known to be the fastest and he still almost came out with the win lol yeah he's got it. Raikage did put in that work, though.
Another banger again I cant keep up with this amazing cooking. But the vid is accurate seeing that if gara didnt help the raikage aye woudve been cooked ngl💀
Stomp i am not sure in the moment but he definitely would have won. And once he advanced his susanoo everyone in the room was below him. And by his next susanoo stage(v3) he became the fastest and possibly strongest as obito said himself.
Uchiha Death Battles are so annoying and filled with Agenda. Raikage was clearly stronger than that boy and only took damage because he was being more careless due to his brother being kidnapped.
@@Virhtue Been around since the SwagKage era. We both know, no amount of evidence is enough to stop Uchiha Propaganda. It’s the strongest Kekkei Genkai in the Naruto Fandom.
>Says Raikage only took damage because he was reckless >Ignores how that was the only reason Sasuke took damage Every argument you guys make are like this.
I need to rewatch this fight because Sasuke could have used any Sharingan Genjustu to stun A long enough to kill him. I don't remember what Darui was doing at that time to possibly break A out of it.
Yes, Ay had to time his movements with Amaterasu's activation time to evade. So if Sasuke used a subtle genjutsu to throw off his timing like Danzo, an Amaterasu head shot could land.
@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto I don't think he even had to be subtle in the Kazekage rescue arc, Chiyo explained you couldn't 1v1 Uchicha with Sharingan because of basic Sharingan genjustsu. You either needed a Sharingan of your own, a teammate to break you out(or Bijuu), or you could be Guy and look at the feet. That's how Itachi beat Orochimaru so easily.
The raikage didn’t know nor gaf what Amaterasu did. All he knew was that he was gonna exterminate the last known uchiha. He cut off his arm with no care in the world
Hokage Minato would beat Juubito and here is why: 1.AP>Dura: Minato oneshotted the Full Ninetails at 14, Sage Naruto blew Juubitos back out, but couldn't damage half of the ninetails. 2. Speed: Tobirama is shown to be able to blitz and content with Juubito. Tobirama admitted to being inferior to base minato, saying he's better with ftg and according to Tobirama, quick at striking too, implying a conjunction between these two statements. He's also better at bodyflicker, being shown when he arrived at the battlefield before all the other Hokage. Minato can also react to 8th Gate Gai with ftg. 3. Sealing: Minato can seal the full Ninetails without the reaper death seal, he only used the reaper to split the soul of the ninetails into yin and yang portions. The Tentails that Juubito uses has only 7 Bijuus worth of chakra, while full kurama has at least 10 Bijuus worth of chakra, because half kurama is able to overpower or equal out 5 Bijuus at the same time. Potential Debunks: "Minato even in kcm couldn't do much against Juubito, Tobirama>kcm Minato" -> Minato had a stupor during most of the fight, Tobirama only scales relative to a minato with a stupor. Tobirama admitted that Base Minato is superior to him. So Base Minato>KCM Minato with a stupor. "Minato didn't oneshot kurama" -> If he didn't oneshot kurama he and kushina would have died. Minato overpowering the Bijuudama and pushing kurama back is the last thing we see before Minato wakes up in the hospital. In conclusion: Hokage Minato would blitz Juubito with A, a Sage Rasengan and oneshot him or B, blitz him and seal him up.
Everyone in the comments is just crying with no arguments🤣 average gayruto fanboys seeing non downplaying ms Sasuke video instead of sm Naruto deep throat milking video😭 Sasuke stomps both of them either way🤷♂️😞🤫
This is like the equivalent to someone getting shot and knocked on their ass but they have lvl 3 plates on but the person who shot them actually got hit directly. Doesn’t matter how you look at it, Sasuke got more direct hits AND likely would’ve finished Ay off if Gaara didn’t intervene. At the most Sasuke would have gotten gravely injured
I read every comment. Theres not a single good counter argument. They see a little bit of Gaara's sand stop Raikage yet insist a layer of spikes would be useless. Some even pretend it wasn't solid & sharp as if he made spikes for no reason. Sasuke (one of the smartest characters in the series) pierced Raikage's armor with Chidori then decides to use Enton Spikes instead of using Skeleton Susano like he did a few seconds later to tank a greater threat. Yet their conclusion is he had no other option & would definitely be injured or die because the spikes wouldn't pierce Ay, or at least cushion his attack even though a little bit of Gaara's sand did. The constant lack logic on their side & ignoring facts. They aren't arguing what would have happened. They're arguing what they wanted to happen.
Ay was so dumb in this fight he probably could have one with stamina, avoiding the flames because all of his moves used a lot less energy than Sasuske but ya know let’s hit death flames durr
I dont fully agree with some parts. Personally, I believe it should be a 3 - 1. But this has taught me something new as I believed Sasuke and Ay would have died but Sasuke would have tanked the last attack with some moderate damage and with Taka would have cleared C and Darui if the Sand didn't interfere. Overall, good video and a good display of your own abilities in the powerscaling community 💪🏽
@Virhtue Just the point system. I watch boxing and Sensible Saiyan. The first point, I believe, should have gone to Ay. He did more damage, caught Sasuke off guard, and body slammed him, putting him in a disadvantageous position. Sasuke tanked it and reacted well, but he still took damage. On the scoreboard, it would be 10-9 in Ay's favor or 1-0. The rest is relatively the same. Sasuke wins mid-to-high difficulty, 3-1, and would have won due to a permanent KO. That was the only part I really found myself disagreeing with. Ay is much weaker than I thought, and Sasuke is much more durable than I thought.
His legs is gone soon as he kick the susanoo with Amaterasu over it. He used flame control and it was liked super hot spikes so I think sauske wouldn’t really take any damage
The raikage was going to kill himself. He was pissed he lost his brother and was acting like a toddler walking into an open flame. Making the point that Sasuke could put up and manipulate flames to react to the raikage is nuts. They are comparable combatants, so ofc the one who only has to think to activate their jutsu can KEEP UP with their enemy’s physical movements. Raikage needed to chill and think
Eh, when it came to giving sasuke the second point, I respectfully disagree. Both went from full offense on eachother, to sasuke being forced in a defensive position and the raikage forced him to power up to counter. I would say honestly that instead of mangekyou counters v1 cloak, that raikage showed that v1 cloak was enough to push sasuke to the next level in order to restart the battle.
The thing is that Raikage was literally saved by garaa and im not even about that sausage glaze like itachi literally took a whole ass enforced kirin and made 0 scratches on him lol
Ngl sasuke was getting his ass beat, he couldn't keep up with V2 raikage and even before that, his chidori had no chance of piercing ay's chakra cloak, which forced him to use amaterasu, which was fucking his eye up. my boy was playing defense throughout damn near the whole fight 😭🙏🏽
>Says ngl >Immediately lies Chidori pierced his armor drawing blood wheres Raikage had to sacrifice an arm where he would bleed to death without help, just to drew some blood from Sasuke which he didn't need help to recover from. But Sasuke was the one whose ass was beat. 😆 And if he was unable to keep up with V2 Ay would have been able to blitz him.
It would’ve been a double KO or Saskue would have been at near death(at best) after the Raikage’s attack . Bro was not gonna be able to fight the other kage after that.
Sasuke would have cooked the Raikage while he was doing the legdrop but the Raikage would have still land the legdrop severly injuring or even killing Sasuke It would had been a tie Raikage would have lost another limb or be completely incinerated(in both cases he would not had been able to keep fighting Sasuke would had been massively injured or killed again in both cases unable to keep fighting
I didn’t have to read the comments before I formed my opinion. A was definitely about to die and take Sasuke ass with him. Sasuke was fighting for his life
@Virhtue 1. 3T Sasuke vs V1 A) after Ay gets "Serious" and Sasuke hits him with chidori we have to consider the fact that outside MS power it's his highest AP, he gets directly hit in the heart but this chidori couldn't even pierce muscles or bones, Sasuke couldn't really seriously damage this Raikage B) Then Raikage gets even more Serious and Sasuke had to use his Susanoo Ribcage immediately, which in my opinion indicates that he could lose right there without his power up, it does not look good if Raikage uses the same amount of power from the begining, maybe sasuke's chidori would not be able to damage Raikage at all. 2. MS Sasuke vs V2 A) Raikage Dodges Sasuke amaterasu and blitzes him, Sasuke is only able to cover himself with Enton(Which paid off SO well) B) Ay is able to react to this and makes the dumbest possible move, choosing to go all in, it's possible that if Raikage didnt fight recklessly and kept the clear head, he could win this fight, it's a battle of attrition Then, idk how we can argue which one of them is able to hołd their higher forms longer, Raikage could also use his bracelets to attack instead of his body if he could find some gap. If Sasuke gets an Amp during this fight then of course it's over. In original scenario the best we can give Raikage is tie and the worst is Sasuke just winning, but in my opinion i's because Ay was fighting recklessly. (It's in-character i guess, but when we put hem against different characters Ay could look better than Sasuke in a great scheme of things)
Sasuke wins this one assuming Raikage really drop his kick on Sasuke there is a black flame who can burn Raikage then Sasuke can also use his Susanoo rib cage to block that leg drop.Raikage is only a speed but lacks in power according to Madara because Raikage cannot break the ribcage of a clone Madara.
9:09 That's embrassing for Ay. He's a famed Kage decades older than his teenage opponent yet had to sacrafice a limb to potentially harm him after his best stuff was countered, even tanked. All while Sasuke was conserving power for Danzo. Yet was able to dodge the supposed fastest shinobi alive while showing greater lightning mastery than the lightning Kage by piercing his lightning armor with a lightning jutsu drawing blood from him *without* giving up an arm. That page encapsulates Ay's reputation being destroyed.
Sasuke didn't stomp the Raikage... Sasuke probably would of died along with the Raikage if Gaara didn't intervene..... Even if Sasuke survived Raikages guillotine drop it wouldn't have been a stomp
I think ur wrong Sasuke has no stamina if he drew it out by baiting him to which a is faster with Darui and c and garra snipe him at a distance and drops the susanoo for a lariat finish boom he's dead
The raikage would have kill sasuke and I’m a sasuke fan. At that point raikage didn’t care about dying his main goal was to kill sasuke, and he was going to accomplish it
Stopped by a wee bit of sand but was definitely going to overpower Enton spikes & still have enough force to kill Sasuke. Based on him being super mad with no feats to back up this supposed strength.
the fight ended in a draw. sasukes susanoo ribcage took most of the damage from his bolt of pain and thats why sasuke only had a bruise. Ay and B are relative and we saw what a lariat did to sasuke so i doubt he could just tank the full force of ays strike and only get a bruise. and i think in the end ay wouldve broke threw the ribcage again and killed sasuke but then he would burn alive, so they would've both died
He wouldn’t burn alive becuase he has his shield. We see that if you have a charka shield you can block the flames(like Naruto did) so I don’t see why it should be any different with the reikage. If anything I’m not sure as to why the raikage can’t send out a massive electrical blast to disperse his lighting shield. But you are right sasuke would have lost. I don’t see how something so black and white can be debate so much that a whole video can be made on it
@@t-god2439if that were true then why did ay lose his arm? I guess you can say that instead of dispersing the flames he chose to follow up and finish sasuke off?
@@oddlyinteresting24 then at worst he would have lost a leg. Which when I reflect on it I don’t know why he lost his arm. If that lighting clock is just cloak of charka that he is releasing from his body in the form of lighting. Then he should have been able to discharge his lighting cloak and remove the black flame from His shield. If you remember the black flames sat in his shield for as all as he had it active. And he was only forced to chop off his arm once he deactivated his cloak. Another thing to consider is just by being able to create a lighting charka shield he is a genius
I disagree I believe if they had continued it would have been a double KO except kishimoto loves to give sasuke the thicket plot armor in the series because he’s an OP uchiha who needs to kill danzo
The same "plot armor" that made him not copy over 1000 jutsu like Kakashi and obtain EMS right after Itachi died? Plot armor was always a dumb argument. This case in particular stands out considering he was clearly nerfed. Even lost a power - the Curse Mark.
@ he never chosen to copy jutsu and instead master his own , chidorii and susanoo Which battle would allow him to copy various jutsu ? Can’t copy orochimaru and his hax, can’t copy clay bombs, can’t copy itachi genjutsu, I guess he coulda copied danzo’s wind bullets ? ?
He never would of went through but if he reached it Ayy would have no legs, no arm, a hole in his chest and most of his organs would have been beyond repair
I think so if you think he’s relative to Pain however I usually don’t take it that route so I would argue it’s either unprovable or just lean towards Ayy winning
What a biased video? Who said the spiked ameterasu would have killed Raikage. Even if we want to pretend the Ameterasu is as solid as stone (which is not), are we going to ignore the fact that the raikage had a lighting armour that even the chidora which is lighting too could barely penetrate? Sasuke would have died right there. Gaara's analysis is better than yours
You realize you have to prove Ayy’s butt durability is superior to his arm right? For this claim to work, like what I would die if a flame sword stabbed me it doesn’t matter if it’s not the same durability as iron
@@Virhtue Proving Ayy's durability isn't necessary. He didn't even need lightling armour to kill Sasuke. Upon a little digging, I figured out the technique Sasuske was using is called Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi. In english its called Inferno style Flame control. The technique only allows Sasuke ot change the shape of the ameterasu. It doesn't change its state or nature into solid. This was something he was able to do later when he had EMS. Also Gaara's sand crushed the spike shape proving that it wasn't a solid. So this is a visual prove. You can view it in chapter 464
So 2 things, 1. I agree A is a bum although I don't think the spikes would have gone through his ass , i think what was being shown was his leg going into the spikes to hit sasuke in a mutual strike. 2. Is there anything that implies that Minatos FR got faster or even would from when he was a jonin.
Yes, Minato has substantially higher end dog interpretation and characters draw a blatant distinction. The fourth databook states that Ayy boasts a godlike speed not inferior to the yellow flash (Jonin minato) and Minato’s hokage Databook page states that he was praised among all ninja as the greatest in godlike speed, which would also fit with Ayy, the chapter 538 synopsis statement notes that the fourth hokage is even faster than Ayy as Raikage. KCM1 Naruto is compared to Jonin minato multiple times and hokage Minaot has nearly eight lines of scaling above KCM2 Naruto. Yes hokage Minato is certainly stronger, he’s even smarter, the second Databook states that he continues to utilize the command ability he fostered in battle
@Virhtue A lot of that is interpretation based and there's multiple statements that call hokage Minato the yellow flash has well even Yamato saying KCM 1 doesn't have the handling of his speed like the fourth hokage, but that wasn't what I was asking. I agree that he's stronger as hokage than has a jonin , him learning sage mode after. What I was asking is is there anything that states Minato's flying raijin gets faster or even can with the way it works, like would his physical stats making it faster in sage mode or kcm2 or even from just being stronger.
Sasuke's only saving grace was the Amatarasu. Without it, he dies! Plus a "stomp", really bro? The Raikage had him on defense the whole fight... How did Sasuke stomp him?
How the about the Skeleton Susano he clearly had in reserve? Odd thing to ignore when he used it right after when needed. He wasn't only on defense, after evading the supposed fastest ninja alive he pierced the lightning Kage's lightning armor with a lightning jutsu without having to sacrifice an arm like his now disabled opponent. He stomped his reputation as the fastest & best lightning user.
Sasuke is a Amaterasu merchant in this arc without it he looses to the raikage he have way better stats and stamina but he kills him due to Amaterasu 😊
You can’t just get rid of an arsenal thing and just say “See they lose without this” because then let’s get rid of Tsunade’s strength, let’s get rid of particle style for Ohnoki or sand for Gaara
@@akwesirobinson1710 that's not how it works, you can't take away one side's strongest attack and say the other wins, you have to balance the playing field.. if you're gonna take away the black flames then remove the lightning barrier from Raikage and now the playing field is even. So what happens now? Sasuke's Susano kills the Raikage ... So he loses again
I struggle to see how a lot of incredible powers in Part 1 become forgotten in Part 2. This should have been an easy win for Sasuke. He has the Sharingan and lightening proficiency. He should have copied the lightning cloak and this would have been his greatest buff stack for the Sharingan. Precog + Lightning reflexes = unbeatable.
yea. but a better written sasuke would use this version. this cloak increases physical strength and durability. with his superior chakra manipulation and chakra quality. he would have a v2 level amp on top of everything he has @@IllusorySpectre
That is not how the sharinga works. Some techniques require training to use. For example. When Kakashi copied Rock lees taijutus during the Gaara fight, Sasuke had to trained for month in order to be able to fight like Rock Lee. And even that he couldn't maintain it due to lack of stamina. But @illusorySpectre is right by the time of the Boruto series he had learnt to use lighting to amp his speed. So he might have copied it but took some time to train to master it
Least charitable Uchiha glaze
No glaze
@@rip_kaiza283 LMAO
I think that “stomp” is a strong word to use. They re likely at the same level, but sasuke should be ahead, as he would have won but also damaged. To consider a stomp sasuke should be able to win without a trouble, what’s not the case
I should have said dominated
@@Virhtue do us a favour man. go 8gates guy vs mu
Stomped his reputation.
"No one has ever survived Liger Bomb." Says Darui. Yet Sasuke tanked it. Ay is the fastest shinobi alive. Says Shee. Yet Sasuke evaded him & countered his attacks multiple times. Ay is the Lightning Kage. Yet Sasuke used a lightning jutsu to pierce his lightning armor showing greater lightning mastery. Ay is a brawler known for his nintai-jutsu. Yet Sasuke pierces his defense drawing blood whereas he has to sacrafice his arm to do the same.
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4kyMU got clapped by kcm1 Naruto clone. 8gates Guy scales higher
Respect to Ay, I have no idea how he kept a straight face against Sasuke.This man literally gave up an arm and nearly his whole body just to do any kind of damage to the man who hurt his brother.
Nah for real; he’s a goat
Not only is Sasuke's chakra colder and thicker, it is mint chocolate chip flavored
Man's chakra is so thicc it has an OF.
With a hint of dark chocolate
Mmmmm
The exit only joke had me rolling 💀💀💀
Bro it’s the simplest way to phrase it
@@Virhtuebtw I don’t think the enton spikes would have pierced the raikage because it’s fire. It’s still a GAS not a solid so Ay would have easily went through it.
0:34 Saying he would have won if it gone on longer after he got "help" from Gaara is not exactly fair.
2:08 That C did not see Minato directly does not mean he would be spouting misinformation.
9:29 It probably would have decapitated him if the Susanoo did not brace the blow.
10:30 I would not say it is complete if he is coughing up blood.
11:25 The next chapter leading statement questions if Sasuke's quest has ended. That is, I think the Guillotine Drop would have killed him, and A would have lost his leg. It probably would not pierce right through him as chakra is able to interact with other chakra, like how Tsunade was able to bat away Madara's Fire Release, so it probably would have just coated his leg instead.
12:48 Gaara's sand bullets are not the same as using it defensively.
13:05 May end up going blind first. He definitely would have run out of stamina since he did by the time he was facing Mei, which would cause his Susanoo to degrade, whilst A only needs one more good hit.
13:47 That narrative is fine after he evolves more, even if he would have lost that specific engagement.
Gaara saved Ayy, not Sasuke
He can save both. He wanted to save Sasuke first, and he also did not want A to lose a leg.
@@Arcadia_warlic A leg? Gaara states that the amaterasu would have engulfed him completely
@@b-lotus5145 "If you had continued your attack, you would have been further injured by black flames. Plus, there's something I'd like to ask Uchiha Sasuke."
No he did not.
@@b-lotus5145 the anime makes it look like he would've fell on the flame, the manga shows pretty clearly that the spike was focused on his leg. Ay was gonna sacrifice his leg to kill Sasuke
I do not agree with the points at all. Raikage tanks Chidori to his chest completely then grabs Sasuke and make a perfect attack, Sasuke “Survives” and he gets the point because he survived and dodged the second attack.
yea if sasuke got hit again he would have died
@ he already hit through amaterasu covered rip cage and made Sasuke cough blood. I dont see why he cant do the same thing in his literal next attack. The fight wouldve been a draw if Gaara didnt interfere. Sasuke surpasses Ay with his Susanoo evolve tho
@@muhammedgezer3915 the problem is the Amaterasu is solid and just pierces him
@@Redoren966you can still argue that he could still land his attack while being pierced for a draw
"tanks completely" nevermind the panel of sasuke fingering his chest 3:19
Still dont see how amaturasu flames were going to physically stop the raikages downward momentum. Its wouldve been a draw imo.
Dude...Sasuke was still in his susanoo. That would protect him while raikage gets toasted
@calebwilliams790 sasukes susanoo ribcage broke to a chop i am sure I don't need to tell you that a full force stomp is far more powerful and destructive then a basic chop. So, if sasukes susanoo ribcage was breached and shattered by a chop a full power stomp slash drop kick would anhilate sasuke, the susanoo, the amaterasu and probably collapse the floor and building.
@IllusorySpectre yes it did. And sasuke got neck chopped. And he tanked it. Why?? Because susanoo took initial force of the hit. The raikage would be fully engulfed in the black flames even if it didn't pierced him. Just like itachi was able to survive kirin even though it demolished his susanoo ribcage
@@calebwilliams790 not sure about if we're going off of the Manga or if it's even different, but in the anime sasukes rib cage didn't seem like it was complete. It looked like the ribs in the front werent formed yet leaving it unguarded.
Enton makes the flames solid. We see this in the war where he created arrows, a sword, sliced Kaguya's ice and pierced Naruto's clones.
>Demolished Itachi's ribcage
I don't see why would he risk using something that low when he has the armored form & the "invincible" Yata Mirror.
Stomped? sasuke was about to die hahaha the raikage as well so none of them stomped
Raikage's leg, which was stopped by a little sand by the way, was about to be pierced like Naruto's clones and or sliced up like Kaguya's ice.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNarutojust a little sand that took hits from madara uchiha
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto The raikage had a lighting armour on. Those spikes weren't going to hurt him
Sasuke was not close to going ever in this fight, could you tell me where? Or I could just tell you where Ayy was going to die?
@@Virhtue Where? he was in the floor bleeding and coughing blood and if gaara doesnt interfere raikage would have hit sasuke and kill him and for sure raikage would die after that unless he gets healed by shee
The Raikage was gonna put himself and Sasuke on a shirt. Sasuke couldn't keep up with him, his only hope was amaterasu
>Says he couldn't keep up while downplaying a move he was able to use because he could keep up
>Says it was his only hope despite seeing him activate Skeleton Susano seconds later *when needed*
>Says Enton wouldn't work even though Sasuke chose to use it despite having a much better option
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@@Sasukeis6-0againstNarutothe name 😂
7-0 is sure to come in the promised rematch, but Naruto's probably not willing to have it without his Biju buddy (chapter 490 page 14).
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto You glazing heavy on a Sasuke Pack. Raikage clears.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto >Says Enton wouldn't work even though Sasuke chose to use it despite having a much better option
he didnt have choise
If Ay's simple lateral chop broke through the ribcage and had Sasuke coughing up blood through it, I'm pretty sure the Guillotine Drop would've just straight up killed him. The Enton spikes were focused on his leg, so while yes, Ay would've lost his leg and have to retire as a ninja, Sasuke would've been turned to paste. Gaara blocking Ay's kick isn't an anti feat either, since he was able to block Madar's Susanoo attacks and even Sage Madara's Susanoo sword when he tried to take Shukaku
Ayy’s entire body and center of mass were in line with the spikes so they would of gone through the butt and into all of his organs
I love how nearly everyone in the comments watched the video blindfolded and ears covered
Your telling me
Sasuke also could’ve EASILY oneshot Ay, Cee, and Darui if he simply controlled the flames that were still burning Ay’s arm. It really would’ve been the ultimate uno reverse. And It’s really only times like these that flame control could TRULY shine. But kishimoto only allows sasuke to use it for bs like flame swords. And Kishimoto REALLY ripped sasuke off with his second MS ability, but I digress.
Sasuke controlling the Amaterasu AFTER shooting it at someone would catch pretty much ANYONE off guard. But it’s just one of those times where sasuke’s abilities HAVE to be nerfed in order for the plot to proceed. Like kishimoto removing the 6 paths abilities from adult sasukes arsenal. Realistically, how does sasuke even lose with such hacks and raw power? But again, I digress lol.
Agreed
i feel like if ayy wasn't blinded with rage he would have won but in the circumstances of the fight yea he lost
Maybe, if he were to renegade the battle in a separate style
Sasuke would have tanked Ay's Guillotine Drop and his Susano'o would have just evolved similarly to when it did after Gaara, Darui, Temari & Kankuro all fired attacks at him after.
True!!
Sasuke last name is Uchiha, of course his opponent is going to be downplayed. Uchiha Agenda be crazy
Now downplay, just facts, if Ayy was obviously stronger then it shouldn’t be hard to prove?
@ You got possessed by the ghost of Loko lol. I’m going to ignore the Uchiha Agenda. I love when you do cross verse stuff. That’s pretty cool btw.
Sasuke is downplayed in every battle (by commenters) unless it's something extremely obvious like Rinnegan Sasuke vs baby Naruto. Even then some people would say Kurama would catch him off guard.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto You the most bias person here your name is literally Sasuke I’m not believing a word you say. You ultra glazing a Killer Bee victim.
>Ignores context while calling the other person bias
The irony. "Killer" Bee ran away low on stamina stating a holding back Sasuke still weakened from Itachi was probably his toughest opponent (chapter 415 page 12, chapter 417 page 19).
Got one-shotted with Genjutsu the moment Sasuke finally activated Mangekyo. Saved by Hachibi then set ablaze by Amaterasu forcing him to flee. Sasuke could have done this the moment he saw him. Raikage with foreknowledge needed V2 to evade Amaterasu. Bee's finished if Sasuke launches it on his head. Tentacle hide and seek won't work in this case.
13:46 Naruto said he needed Kurama to fight him (chapter 490 page 14) & based on Sasuke's Skeleton Susano, let alone the armored version Danzo faced, Gaara believed Madara's would *tank* Sage Mode RasenShuriken (chapter 560 page 13).
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COOK 🔥🔥🔥
and even when naruto got kurama chakra he still got bullied by v1 A
Nah this so fine but they don’t translate to each other, firstly him needing the nine tails to beat Sasuke is not referencing power but rather the need to conquer what’s inside him, this narrative is perpetuated through the Tenchi bridge recon arc by the end and similar to the pain arc where Naruto realizes that every time he lets the nine tails take over, it never ends well and he ends up hurting those around him, Naruto had to ideologically conquer Sasuke
Yeah, he needs to conquer what's inside him - Kurama, for a needed power-up because Susano tanks his strongest attack in his strongest mode. He can't win ideologically if he's inferior physically. That's why they resolved things when they were "equal" at the Valley.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto They were only equal because Sasuke stole all the tailed beasts
Sasuke literally needed susanoo to even be relative to V1 raikage who was going to kill sasuke.
What does that matter if it’s a part of his kit? That’s like saying the Raikage needed his Lightning cloak otherwise Sasuke would’ve pierced his heart in their first exchange.
Not a good argument bro.
@@justcallmesage2279 I’m saying that the susanoo came out of nowhere and saved his ass. Raikage has always had lightning cloak goofy
@ you mean he activated out of nowhere? It wouldnt pop up otherwise since it’s not autonomous like Gaara and his sand
nice video, i was saying all of this for a long time
Glad I could help you get your point across
Sasuke is goated but the Raikage is the definition of gives no fck. Unc was ready and willing to sacrifice it all.
And it wouldn’t of even killed Sasuke
@@Virhtue Guillotine drop definitely would've killed him if lateral chop made Sasuke cough up blood even with the Susanoo defense
Fire video obviously Nothing I can add to the subject,
I would like to however, put my observational hat on and make an assertion for the camp of Five kage summit gaara, feel free people to disagree in the comments or just not read - Id just like ppls opinion on this.
9:15 - this is the moment in question, the ambigious gaara's sand scalling.
First off all I would like to give the simple fact to the jury that FKS Gaara > Kazekage retrieval Gaara. This may seem obvious but some people think he like kakashi remain stagnant and even if you argue "we never see him train on screen" we do know that this Gaara is no longer afflicted by shukaku messing with his sleep and psyche and we know that Mental is just as important as physical so even if you say he never trains, he would still be stronger as his mental side of chakra has advanced to due having a better mindset but also not having a demon messing with him. And we see in the war arc how Gaara's mental state improving can GREATLY improve his power. So FKS Gaara is > KR Gaara: Therefore it;s possible for him to be quicker and such.
Now to get to the point of the feat. I would like to argue that Gaara's sand IS more likely than not V2 raikage level speed or between V1 and V2 speed: at least for the raikage from the summit since he constantly trains and gets stronger, so specifically is V2 or firmly above V1 from the summit. The reason for stating this is that what people say is V2 level speed is usually not V2 level speed. Ayy is aiding his V2 speed with bodyflicker which could be another reason for why he stops before attacking at 7:45 (Along with what Virhtue stated above) as we would have a similar situation to the Deidara fight where Sasuke's movement is slower while slashing with his sword which is why gaara can react better since it's no longer body flicker.
Since in the guiotine drop it's not only an attack but also not a dashing run motion or a straight line dash or leap which is what body flicker is shown to look like (such as minato moving from next to kushina to being on the wall in a straight line motion, or sasuke dashing forward to attack tobi and deidara as well as raikage dashing around himself by running when he uses body flicker in the summit) It seems it has to be Ayy's speed utilising just his V2 assisted speed. As well sasuke is shown being able to erect his amaterasu flames extremly easily in response to the drop even though he is suffering from the previous lateral bolt and effects of the MS, it seems to be shown as an easier move to react to which makes sense if it is not assisted by body flicker.
Coupled with the fact that Gaara is able to defend from the amaterasu wisps (as TG and I think Virthue calls them) with his sand as well which must be at least relative to other amaterasu attacks since sasuke comments on him being able to react to and block them with a compliment about gaara's absolute defense standing strong, I argue that Gaara's sand Is definiatly if not as fast as V2 definately far above V1 HOWEVER: it is not above V2 + body flicker. The only thing against this idea is the ambiguity of where the send was and when it was unleashed but coupled with how gaara does with amaterasu shortly after. I would at least like to say it is not a bad take to certainly put him above V1 raikage firmly.
Thats what i've got to say, Sorry if its a long read but i've been thinking about this for a while. Appreciate anyones feedback on my ideas here. (Also FKS gaara > deidara maybe?) Have a nice day people, feel free to roast, just tryna get better at understanding naruto scaling like the rest of y'all.
I think putting his sand above or around V one is a pretty solid Take.
However, I do find it to be a stretch to claim that kage summit Gara’s sand is v2 level. That claim might be true during the war, but there just isn't enough evidence to suggest that it is during the summit.
Wild title, dude people are gonna have a problem with it, I bet lol.
They always do and all I ask, is where is your evidence
3:45 I always viewed this as the chidori's shape manipulation making it superior
Most likely. Everyone is glazing Sasuke to insane levels rn.
Interesting take, okay I see that idea
@@Virhtue Third Raikage Hellstab has more ap/piercing power than 4th Raikage lightning cloak punches. And we know in Naruto, piercing attacks don’t have many anti feats.
Funny how people assume he'd just blast through the amaterasu spikes(ehich we know have physical presence) and the susanno when he couldn't blast through a small portion of Gaara's sand
That same sand blocked Amaterasu
@marqusmedina5983 does amaterasu appearing on you held physical force, no it doesn't unlike the guiotine drop. Hell in the manga Sasuke doesn't even use amaterasu on Gaara he uses enton to move amaterasu at Gaara not instantly make it appear on him
You're wondering how he could get through fire when he was blocked by sand? 😂 smooth brain. Sand and fire are 2 different things
@@jiero3253 its doesnt matter. fact of the matter is amaterasu didn't have enough energy to move gaaras sand, shit was useless against it. Gaara sand defensively is massively above raikage, amaterasu, and susanoo rib cage at least. So you can't use gaara to put raikage beneath sasuke because gaara sand out scales BOTH of them. Realistically sasuke would need susanoo arrow or maybe the fists from skeletal to damage gaara and sasuke didnt get arrow till the summit was over.
Gaara's sand is the Ultimate Defence, blocks even stronger Susanoo in the war. Only Sasuke says they are comparable, and he is not exactly a reliable narrator.
Nah dude Raikage was about to put the last Uchiha on a shirt in spectacular fashion
Why
This fight always anoys me since sasuke could not physically keep up so he just turtled up instead. The raikage could have just waited and sasuke would have ran out of chakra and went blind and then proceed to get bodied. Since he had to get recovered during the summit itself and spent most of it running around getting beat by every kage and saved.
@@IllusorySpectre dude you realize Sasuke might outlast raikage because he has similar stamina also Gaara could not beat Sasuke. Also you realize I could say something similar that Raikage just decided to use speed instead of strength trying to fight Sasuke but he used speed because he was a coward right?
>Gives Raikage insight on Sasuke's chakra reserves and blindness that he has no way of knowing
>Claims every Kage beat him even though no one even touched him aside from the Raikage at the cost of an arm
Why are you like this?
@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto I only speak facts. Mei burned him and melted his susanoo he was forced to retreat. Onoki was going to atomise sasuke, but obito saved him. White zetsu had to attach to others and give sasuke Chakra back because sasuke was already reaching his limit. He ran from gaara.
The only kage he fought and beat was danzo, and yet even their he still had to be healed and replenished by Karin before that and get saved by obito against danzos' final technique Sasuke literally lost to every kage at the summit or would have lost if others had not intervened and saved him multiple times.
The reality is that sasuke was outclassed by every kage and only survived because he had allies with him who had to keep bailing him out of trouble that he got himself into. Literally, the only one he stood a chance against was Ayy, and that is sorely because Ayy is a mele fighter and sasuke happens to have a perfect counter for Ayy in particular. That counter is turtling up since he can't compete in speed, strength, or stamina. None of his long-range ninjutsu can even hit Ayy. So, he can only play defense.
Sasuke couldn’t keep up with peak v2 but past that he was fine
@@Redoren966what in the world gives you the idea that sasuke and ay are similar when it comes to stamina and charka? 🤣 what pack you smoking? Sasuke at no point during the story ever!!! To be said to have charka reserves similar to a tailed beast
Ay really Batista Bombed Sasuke 💀
Nah heee did, straight up WWE
Not gonna lie ayy was clearly too strong and too fast. If garaa didn't stop him, he would have killed Sasuke but he would have died from being burned
I doubt the Raikage would've died, lose a leg maybe?
He literally would have died, you are think his organs would have been fine if they were penetrated through his ass?
>Too strong
Had to sacrafice a limb to even touch Sasuke.
>Too fast
Had to sacrifice a limb because he couldn't blitz Sasuke.
>Would have killed Sasuke
Completely stopped by a little sand. Enton Spikes>Sand.
Do more vids like these
I definitely enjoy making them
Sasuke got his ass whooped
@@Archer170 how
@Redoren966 he was about to have his chest caved in
Wanna support that?
Who lost an arm and who didn't?
Boy was coughing up blood from a standing still karate chop😂.If that high speed axe kick came down sasuke would be done.
Ay at best would lose a leg.Worse they both die.
And even then if ay just used a little more brain power he wouldn’t of lost any limbs.
Im hyped for this video. For a decade it's pissed me off the ppl try to act like A did well in that fight. He fought like a moron. Bee did way better against sasuke than A did.
The worst case scenario for that fight was a draw double death. More likely A dies and the susano mitigates enough of the final blow for Sasuke to get healed by Karin and keep going.
Yes he was just really reckless and Sasuke didn’t expect that. Ayy was just throwing stuff at the wall and it managed to stick
If A was levelheaded then he might've had an actual chance of winning.
Now do sasuke versus killer bee I want to see you glaze sasuke into a win lmao
Fks sasuke slams
@@glizzypizza He doesn’t? Killer Bee is still clapping him. Stop glazing for one second
Nah I think that was a close fight, this one wasn’t and if you think it was then drop an argument
@@glizzypizza they fought and we saw what happen correct ?
@@Virhtue It wasn’t a close fight. Killer Bee was playing for most of the fight. If he really wanted Sasuke gone, he wouldn’t be here.
Bro, Sasuke was a sixteen year old going up against a 50 something year old Kage who is insanely buff to the brim and known to be the fastest and he still almost came out with the win lol yeah he's got it. Raikage did put in that work, though.
Nah Ayy is swole, I can’t even lie
Another banger again I cant keep up with this amazing cooking. But the vid is accurate seeing that if gara didnt help the raikage aye woudve been cooked ngl💀
No I totally agree and I appreciate the love my man, it means a lot brother. But like seriously Ayy was going to die💀
@Virhtue Np your content is fire and your mad hilarious. And yeah Ayy was literally going to be cooked 😆
A was crashing out so hard lol.
Stomp i am not sure in the moment but he definitely would have won. And once he advanced his susanoo everyone in the room was below him. And by his next susanoo stage(v3) he became the fastest and possibly strongest as obito said himself.
Interesting
Uchiha Death Battles are so annoying and filled with Agenda. Raikage was clearly stronger than that boy and only took damage because he was being more careless due to his brother being kidnapped.
Then go ahead and use evidence to back this up
@@Virhtue Been around since the SwagKage era. We both know, no amount of evidence is enough to stop Uchiha Propaganda. It’s the strongest Kekkei Genkai in the Naruto Fandom.
@@ExoticZah 🤣 it is the strongest genjustu there is
@@t-god2439 exactly lol
>Says Raikage only took damage because he was reckless
>Ignores how that was the only reason Sasuke took damage
Every argument you guys make are like this.
I’ve been saying this for years but they always wanted to make me sound crazy . Raikage was gonna die
Dude Ayy lost that fight bad by most standards
I need to rewatch this fight because Sasuke could have used any Sharingan Genjustu to stun A long enough to kill him. I don't remember what Darui was doing at that time to possibly break A out of it.
Maybe?
Yes, Ay had to time his movements with Amaterasu's activation time to evade. So if Sasuke used a subtle genjutsu to throw off his timing like Danzo, an Amaterasu head shot could land.
@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto I don't think he even had to be subtle in the Kazekage rescue arc, Chiyo explained you couldn't 1v1 Uchicha with Sharingan because of basic Sharingan genjustsu. You either needed a Sharingan of your own, a teammate to break you out(or Bijuu), or you could be Guy and look at the feet. That's how Itachi beat Orochimaru so easily.
The raikage didn’t know nor gaf what Amaterasu did. All he knew was that he was gonna exterminate the last known uchiha. He cut off his arm with no care in the world
Stood on business
He did. That's why he entered V2 when he saw Amaterasu. He needed the speed boost to evade. Shee knew it by name and was even aware of Enton.
Hokage Minato would beat Juubito and here is why:
1.AP>Dura: Minato oneshotted the Full Ninetails at 14, Sage Naruto blew Juubitos back out, but couldn't damage half of the ninetails.
2. Speed: Tobirama is shown to be able to blitz and content with Juubito. Tobirama admitted to being inferior to base minato, saying he's better with ftg and according to Tobirama, quick at striking too, implying a conjunction between these two statements. He's also better at bodyflicker, being shown when he arrived at the battlefield before all the other Hokage. Minato can also react to 8th Gate Gai with ftg.
3. Sealing: Minato can seal the full Ninetails without the reaper death seal, he only used the reaper to split the soul of the ninetails into yin and yang portions. The Tentails that Juubito uses has only 7 Bijuus worth of chakra, while full kurama has at least 10 Bijuus worth of chakra, because half kurama is able to overpower or equal out 5 Bijuus at the same time.
Potential Debunks: "Minato even in kcm couldn't do much against Juubito, Tobirama>kcm Minato" -> Minato had a stupor during most of the fight, Tobirama only scales relative to a minato with a stupor. Tobirama admitted that Base Minato is superior to him. So Base Minato>KCM Minato with a stupor.
"Minato didn't oneshot kurama" -> If he didn't oneshot kurama he and kushina would have died. Minato overpowering the Bijuudama and pushing kurama back is the last thing we see before Minato wakes up in the hospital.
In conclusion: Hokage Minato would blitz Juubito with A, a Sage Rasengan and oneshot him or B, blitz him and seal him up.
No he wouldn’t, Juubito is above BSM
@Virhtue Minato is above Kurama who is above Juubito.
Everyone in the comments is just crying with no arguments🤣 average gayruto fanboys seeing non downplaying ms Sasuke video instead of sm Naruto deep throat milking video😭 Sasuke stomps both of them either way🤷♂️😞🤫
This is like the equivalent to someone getting shot and knocked on their ass but they have lvl 3 plates on but the person who shot them actually got hit directly. Doesn’t matter how you look at it, Sasuke got more direct hits AND likely would’ve finished Ay off if Gaara didn’t intervene. At the most Sasuke would have gotten gravely injured
It didn’t change my mind, but it was a good video. Ayy was destined to lose that one.
Okay bruh 😭
13:58 there’s something deep rooted here
what happened man?
Ahahaha
I read every comment. Theres not a single good counter argument. They see a little bit of Gaara's sand stop Raikage yet insist a layer of spikes would be useless. Some even pretend it wasn't solid & sharp as if he made spikes for no reason.
Sasuke (one of the smartest characters in the series) pierced Raikage's armor with Chidori then decides to use Enton Spikes instead of using Skeleton Susano like he did a few seconds later to tank a greater threat. Yet their conclusion is he had no other option & would definitely be injured or die because the spikes wouldn't pierce Ay, or at least cushion his attack even though a little bit of Gaara's sand did.
The constant lack logic on their side & ignoring facts. They aren't arguing what would have happened. They're arguing what they wanted to happen.
Bro I love you, spitttt bro plunder for the people in the back. The last part especially
Ay was so dumb in this fight he probably could have one with stamina, avoiding the flames because all of his moves used a lot less energy than Sasuske but ya know let’s hit death flames durr
Yeah that’s the whole thing, like bro was just really dumb
Yeah, he was just acting out of rage.
I dont fully agree with some parts. Personally, I believe it should be a 3 - 1. But this has taught me something new as I believed Sasuke and Ay would have died but Sasuke would have tanked the last attack with some moderate damage and with Taka would have cleared C and Darui if the Sand didn't interfere. Overall, good video and a good display of your own abilities in the powerscaling community 💪🏽
Why so?
@Virhtue Just the point system. I watch boxing and Sensible Saiyan. The first point, I believe, should have gone to Ay. He did more damage, caught Sasuke off guard, and body slammed him, putting him in a disadvantageous position. Sasuke tanked it and reacted well, but he still took damage. On the scoreboard, it would be 10-9 in Ay's favor or 1-0.
The rest is relatively the same. Sasuke wins mid-to-high difficulty, 3-1, and would have won due to a permanent KO. That was the only part I really found myself disagreeing with. Ay is much weaker than I thought, and Sasuke is much more durable than I thought.
I def feel a certain way with no evidence 💯
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His legs is gone soon as he kick the susanoo with Amaterasu over it. He used flame control and it was liked super hot spikes so I think sauske wouldn’t really take any damage
For sure
The raikage was going to kill himself. He was pissed he lost his brother and was acting like a toddler walking into an open flame. Making the point that Sasuke could put up and manipulate flames to react to the raikage is nuts. They are comparable combatants, so ofc the one who only has to think to activate their jutsu can KEEP UP with their enemy’s physical movements.
Raikage needed to chill and think
Agreed
Eh, when it came to giving sasuke the second point, I respectfully disagree. Both went from full offense on eachother, to sasuke being forced in a defensive position and the raikage forced him to power up to counter. I would say honestly that instead of mangekyou counters v1 cloak, that raikage showed that v1 cloak was enough to push sasuke to the next level in order to restart the battle.
He only forced him into the ms because he had no option because the Raikage offguarded Sasuke
The thing is that Raikage was literally saved by garaa and im not even about that sausage glaze like itachi literally took a whole ass enforced kirin and made 0 scratches on him lol
Nah agreed, people say Sasuke was saved, no the Raikage was saved
Ngl sasuke was getting his ass beat, he couldn't keep up with V2 raikage and even before that, his chidori had no chance of piercing ay's chakra cloak, which forced him to use amaterasu, which was fucking his eye up. my boy was playing defense throughout damn near the whole fight 😭🙏🏽
>Says ngl
>Immediately lies
Chidori pierced his armor drawing blood wheres Raikage had to sacrifice an arm where he would bleed to death without help, just to drew some blood from Sasuke which he didn't need help to recover from. But Sasuke was the one whose ass was beat. 😆 And if he was unable to keep up with V2 Ay would have been able to blitz him.
He CHIDORI LITERALLY WENT THROUGH THE PEAK V1 CLOAK, so prove there is a quantifiable change in density between V1 and V2
It would’ve been a double KO or Saskue would have been at near death(at best) after the Raikage’s attack . Bro was not gonna be able to fight the other kage after that.
No it would have just been Ayy, why would Sasuke of died
Sasuke would have cooked the Raikage while he was doing the legdrop but the Raikage would have still land the legdrop severly injuring or even killing Sasuke
It would had been a tie
Raikage would have lost another limb or be completely incinerated(in both cases he would not had been able to keep fighting
Sasuke would had been massively injured or killed again in both cases unable to keep fighting
Why?
I didn’t have to read the comments before I formed my opinion. A was definitely about to die and take Sasuke ass with him. Sasuke was fighting for his life
Can you prove as to why Ayy would have fallen through
I disagree with Sasuke glaze here, i believe that this fight was much closer but this analysis is very good regardless.
Thank you, why do you believe it was closer?
@Virhtue
1. 3T Sasuke vs V1
A) after Ay gets "Serious" and Sasuke hits him with chidori we have to consider the fact that outside MS power it's his highest AP, he gets directly hit in the heart but this chidori couldn't even pierce muscles or bones, Sasuke couldn't really seriously damage this Raikage
B) Then Raikage gets even more Serious and Sasuke had to use his Susanoo Ribcage immediately, which in my opinion indicates that he could lose right there without his power up, it does not look good if Raikage uses the same amount of power from the begining, maybe sasuke's chidori would not be able to damage Raikage at all.
2. MS Sasuke vs V2
A) Raikage Dodges Sasuke amaterasu and blitzes him, Sasuke is only able to cover himself with Enton(Which paid off SO well)
B) Ay is able to react to this and makes the dumbest possible move, choosing to go all in, it's possible that if Raikage didnt fight recklessly and kept the clear head, he could win this fight, it's a battle of attrition Then, idk how we can argue which one of them is able to hołd their higher forms longer, Raikage could also use his bracelets to attack instead of his body if he could find some gap.
If Sasuke gets an Amp during this fight then of course it's over. In original scenario the best we can give Raikage is tie and the worst is Sasuke just winning, but in my opinion i's because Ay was fighting recklessly. (It's in-character i guess, but when we put hem against different characters Ay could look better than Sasuke in a great scheme of things)
Sasuke wins this one assuming Raikage really drop his kick on Sasuke there is a black flame who can burn Raikage then Sasuke can also use his Susanoo rib cage to block that leg drop.Raikage is only a speed but lacks in power according to Madara because Raikage cannot break the ribcage of a clone Madara.
Why so?
9:09 That's embrassing for Ay. He's a famed Kage decades older than his teenage opponent yet had to sacrafice a limb to potentially harm him after his best stuff was countered, even tanked. All while Sasuke was conserving power for Danzo. Yet was able to dodge the supposed fastest shinobi alive while showing greater lightning mastery than the lightning Kage by piercing his lightning armor with a lightning jutsu drawing blood from him *without* giving up an arm. That page encapsulates Ay's reputation being destroyed.
That’s kind of part of it, it’s like Naruto and Sasuke are different than everyone else
Sasuke didn't stomp the Raikage... Sasuke probably would of died along with the Raikage if Gaara didn't intervene..... Even if Sasuke survived Raikages guillotine drop it wouldn't have been a stomp
If MS Sasuke can react to KCM 1 speeds, and Sage Mode Naruto is performing worse than the V2 6 tails, how are they equal?
Sage mode Naruto Has KCM levels of physicality.Speed traded for high reaction/precognition.
@Archer170 I can see that. However, the 6 tails is also stronger than Sage Mode Naruto.
@@i.q.1979hmm pain arc yeah tho I can see him being below kurama fight Naruto
@@Archer170how? wheres the comparison lol you’re making stuff up
sage naruto didn’t perform worse, if you’re talking about the anime 6 tails fight thats not canon
I think ur wrong Sasuke has no stamina if he drew it out by baiting him to which a is faster with Darui and c and garra snipe him at a distance and drops the susanoo for a lariat finish boom he's dead
Why so
The raikage would have kill sasuke and I’m a sasuke fan. At that point raikage didn’t care about dying his main goal was to kill sasuke, and he was going to accomplish it
Stopped by a wee bit of sand but was definitely going to overpower Enton spikes & still have enough force to kill Sasuke. Based on him being super mad with no feats to back up this supposed strength.
Then prove he would have went through the enton
Raikage would have taken Sasuke out as he went out.
No he wouldn’t have
the fight ended in a draw. sasukes susanoo ribcage took most of the damage from his bolt of pain and thats why sasuke only had a bruise. Ay and B are relative and we saw what a lariat did to sasuke so i doubt he could just tank the full force of ays strike and only get a bruise. and i think in the end ay wouldve broke threw the ribcage again and killed sasuke but then he would burn alive, so they would've both died
He wouldn’t burn alive becuase he has his shield. We see that if you have a charka shield you can block the flames(like Naruto did) so I don’t see why it should be any different with the reikage. If anything I’m not sure as to why the raikage can’t send out a massive electrical blast to disperse his lighting shield. But you are right sasuke would have lost. I don’t see how something so black and white can be debate so much that a whole video can be made on it
It ended in I conclusive but if you watch UFC, it’s better described as an early stoppage
@@t-god2439if that were true then why did ay lose his arm? I guess you can say that instead of dispersing the flames he chose to follow up and finish sasuke off?
He wouldn't take the full force if any. The *spikes* would have stopped him just at that little bit of sand did.
@@oddlyinteresting24 then at worst he would have lost a leg. Which when I reflect on it I don’t know why he lost his arm. If that lighting clock is just cloak of charka that he is releasing from his body in the form of lighting. Then he should have been able to discharge his lighting cloak and remove the black flame from
His shield. If you remember the black flames sat in his shield for as all as he had it active. And he was only forced to chop off his arm once he deactivated his cloak. Another thing to consider is just by being able to create a lighting charka shield he is a genius
I disagree I believe if they had continued it would have been a double KO except kishimoto loves to give sasuke the thicket plot armor in the series because he’s an OP uchiha who needs to kill danzo
The same "plot armor" that made him not copy over 1000 jutsu like Kakashi and obtain EMS right after Itachi died? Plot armor was always a dumb argument. This case in particular stands out considering he was clearly nerfed. Even lost a power - the Curse Mark.
@ he never chosen to copy jutsu and instead master his own , chidorii and susanoo
Which battle would allow him to copy various jutsu ? Can’t copy orochimaru and his hax, can’t copy clay bombs, can’t copy itachi genjutsu, I guess he coulda copied danzo’s wind bullets ? ?
There was no plot, give me anything that suggest that Ayy would have won or is stronger in that fight
Can u do how Seth stomped the allegations
Never did
What allegations???
@ADM.II. Do you know what Orochimaru is? That's essentially Seth 🤫
@@Normal_guy9
Kidnapper??
@@ADM.II. Lower than that
Why does bro sound like Seth? Like not voice but like video wise and speech wise. It throws me off.
People say that but I dont see it and when my boys hear me talk they realize I don’t actually sound like him
YOU Sasuke fanare you in your emo phase
This is funny I can’t lie but please just provide an argument as to why you you Ayy wins
@@Virhtue Just kidding broski
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Sasuke would’ve had broken ribs and ate would have no leg n arm
He never would of went through but if he reached it Ayy would have no legs, no arm, a hole in his chest and most of his organs would have been beyond repair
Do you think 5KS/Pain Arc Kakashi would beat 5KS 4th Raikage Aye?
Nope
No
I think so if you think he’s relative to Pain however I usually don’t take it that route so I would argue it’s either unprovable or just lean towards Ayy winning
@@Virhtue How on earth could Kakashi be relative to Pain. How do u people do your analysis.
What a biased video? Who said the spiked ameterasu would have killed Raikage. Even if we want to pretend the Ameterasu is as solid as stone (which is not), are we going to ignore the fact that the raikage had a lighting armour that even the chidora which is lighting too could barely penetrate? Sasuke would have died right there. Gaara's analysis is better than yours
You realize you have to prove Ayy’s butt durability is superior to his arm right? For this claim to work, like what I would die if a flame sword stabbed me it doesn’t matter if it’s not the same durability as iron
@@Virhtue Proving Ayy's durability isn't necessary. He didn't even need lightling armour to kill Sasuke. Upon a little digging, I figured out the technique Sasuske was using is called Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi. In english its called Inferno style Flame control. The technique only allows Sasuke ot change the shape of the ameterasu. It doesn't change its state or nature into solid. This was something he was able to do later when he had EMS. Also Gaara's sand crushed the spike shape proving that it wasn't a solid. So this is a visual prove. You can view it in chapter 464
So 2 things, 1. I agree A is a bum although I don't think the spikes would have gone through his ass , i think what was being shown was his leg going into the spikes to hit sasuke in a mutual strike.
2. Is there anything that implies that Minatos FR got faster or even would from when he was a jonin.
Ay isnt a bum lol sasuke is just a strong mf atp
and FR is teleportation you can’t teleport faster than teleporting
@hammelbear749 He a actual bum
Yes, Minato has substantially higher end dog interpretation and characters draw a blatant distinction. The fourth databook states that Ayy boasts a godlike speed not inferior to the yellow flash (Jonin minato) and Minato’s hokage Databook page states that he was praised among all ninja as the greatest in godlike speed, which would also fit with Ayy, the chapter 538 synopsis statement notes that the fourth hokage is even faster than Ayy as Raikage. KCM1 Naruto is compared to Jonin minato multiple times and hokage Minaot has nearly eight lines of scaling above KCM2 Naruto. Yes hokage Minato is certainly stronger, he’s even smarter, the second Databook states that he continues to utilize the command ability he fostered in battle
@@maku3857 to be a bum in the verse you have to be like hidan level or smthn not kage level
@Virhtue A lot of that is interpretation based and there's multiple statements that call hokage Minato the yellow flash has well even Yamato saying KCM 1 doesn't have the handling of his speed like the fourth hokage, but that wasn't what I was asking. I agree that he's stronger as hokage than has a jonin , him learning sage mode after. What I was asking is is there anything that states Minato's flying raijin gets faster or even can with the way it works, like would his physical stats making it faster in sage mode or kcm2 or even from just being stronger.
Sasuke's only saving grace was the Amatarasu.
Without it, he dies!
Plus a "stomp", really bro?
The Raikage had him on defense the whole fight...
How did Sasuke stomp him?
Without the lightning cloak Ayy dies
How the about the Skeleton Susano he clearly had in reserve? Odd thing to ignore when he used it right after when needed. He wasn't only on defense, after evading the supposed fastest ninja alive he pierced the lightning Kage's lightning armor with a lightning jutsu without having to sacrifice an arm like his now disabled opponent. He stomped his reputation as the fastest & best lightning user.
I will agree with Sasuke over Ayy because Ayy is a bum and the most overrated kage.
U only say that cuz he’s blk
Totally
FIRST!🎉
Let’s goooooooo
Sasuke is a Amaterasu merchant in this arc without it he looses to the raikage he have way better stats and stamina but he kills him due to Amaterasu 😊
So he beats the Raikage .. thnx
You realize if we do that then let’s get rid of the lightning cloak which gives Ay his speed
You can’t just get rid of an arsenal thing and just say “See they lose without this” because then let’s get rid of Tsunade’s strength, let’s get rid of particle style for Ohnoki or sand for Gaara
@@kumarayush9950I say that he win not on the raikage train if gara ain’t there he die I am taking away amateursu I am saying that why he wins
@@akwesirobinson1710 that's not how it works, you can't take away one side's strongest attack and say the other wins, you have to balance the playing field.. if you're gonna take away the black flames then remove the lightning barrier from Raikage and now the playing field is even. So what happens now? Sasuke's Susano kills the Raikage ... So he loses again
The Raikage is so overrated, bro. Like everybody dodges his speed 💀
Bro spitttt, louder for the people in the back!
I struggle to see how a lot of incredible powers in Part 1 become forgotten in Part 2. This should have been an easy win for Sasuke. He has the Sharingan and lightening proficiency. He should have copied the lightning cloak and this would have been his greatest buff stack for the Sharingan. Precog + Lightning reflexes = unbeatable.
Sasuke by the events of boruto does actually use lightning to further amp and improve his speed you see it in the fused momoshiki fight
yea. but a better written sasuke would use this version. this cloak increases physical strength and durability. with his superior chakra manipulation and chakra quality. he would have a v2 level amp on top of everything he has
@@IllusorySpectre
That is not how the sharinga works. Some techniques require training to use. For example. When Kakashi copied Rock lees taijutus during the Gaara fight, Sasuke had to trained for month in order to be able to fight like Rock Lee. And even that he couldn't maintain it due to lack of stamina. But @illusorySpectre is right by the time of the Boruto series he had learnt to use lighting to amp his speed. So he might have copied it but took some time to train to master it
Sasuke literally decided to beat Ayy at his own game
4th Raikage Aye? You mean a Sannin victim 🥱
Looking forward to watching the whole video, Virhtue!
Not losing to a sanin
I’m very glad and hope you enjoyef