Well they gave Logan Paul a fucking 90 so at this point nobody should be playing this game with the default ratings. I mean the games suck and shouldn't be played at all in the first place, but you get what I mean.
@@mychaeljones7526 I’m guessing it has to do with the USO’s and how it used to be really hard to tell them apart. But also theirs only 1 John in the video so it doesn’t really work 😂.
I don’t think 80-90 are midcarders. I think 80-85 are upper midcarders but 86-90 are main eventers that maybe just haven’t gotten their time to shine (like Sami Zayn). And Sami is definitely main event material he’s got it all.
yeah you're probably right,for me miz is like upper midcard and I would rate him like an 82. Or a liv morgan upper midcard around an 80.@@davidstratton696
It seems like low 70s are jobbers really. Remember the cutoff point was when Gargano was jobbing on B-shows and before the #DIY reunion and the stuff with R-Truth.
@@jagerpudenz Since when did being old effect ratings? Legends get top ratings all the time lmao. Logan has cheated in literally every major match win he's had so even in kayfabe he shouldn't be high.
Damn, John! From -10,002.5 on the last quiz to a HUGE 45 into a belt win! Never seen such a huge comeback, congrats! Also the zoom on Dante's face at 15:42, when he said "If I get it on the money here, I'm screaming" was awesome :)
yeppp thats what i do... i try to change it to how they are doing in the last month or so....maybe 2 months.... roman.. cody... seth...gunther.....maybe even drew for mens, maybe randy i mean he has been ok the last couple months other then losing at rumble and chamber... logan is way to high how is logan 85 and theory 72 wth
The moment I knew the ratings in this game were borked was when I learned that the 1997 version of Eddie Guerrero(aka the year he won both the WCW US and Cruiserweight titles and had the instant classic Halloween Havoc match with Rey Mysterio) was given only a god damned 76 rating.
They said they threw out all past ratings and started from scratch. Thats why people's ratings changed so much. Basically what have you done for me lately ratings.
They did a reset to have dedicated midcarders be in the 70s and uppers in the 80s and main event mainstays in the 90s and while I think they undershot on a few people (Theory!!) in a vacuum it seems fine. When they were slowly leaking the numbers it seemed horrible but everyone except the highest end people are low, so no one is low. Except Maxxine.
It’s awesome that when I found out about you guys I was grounded and I had a computer to do my school works and I would watch you guys while I did my school work
Yeah Logan is way too high for a guy that's wrestled in like 5 matches total especially if he's tied with someone like Gunther who has been going strong as IC champ for years
I don’t know if anyone remembers this particular video but it was way back when ‘22 was coming out and they did this same exact video. Dante kept getting the ratings on the dot while John would be off by a few numbers. Fast forward, now the roles are reversed. John’s getting them on the nose while Dante’s off by a few.
2K and their notoriously bad ratings, lol. Austin Theory hasn't done much but being a 72 is complete disrespect, especially when guys like Dom (who's pretty much a comedy act) are in the 80s.
The fact they gave Gunther and Logan Paul the same rating is just the nail in the coffin for these godawful ratings lmao. Outside of kayfabe, Gunther is obviously ten times as good as Logan, and even in kayfabe, Gunther is like the only heel champion in the company who dominates by just being really damn strong instead of having to cheat like guys like Logan and even Roman does. These make literally no sense.
I have a quiz idea but don't know how to put it together so someone else can steal this idea. When wwe 2k24 comes out have a genetic CAW (or make John and Dante) do entrances and the boys have to guess whose entrance it is.
No he shouldn’t he’s been an awful champ that can’t win on his own. He just always cheats to win and while that works for someone like Logan it doesn’t work with Roman. It just makes Roman look pathetic. They make him out to be this dominant top guy who’s been champ for this long when in reality he just looks weak. He literally only wins due to interference. And it’s easy to be champ for this long when he barely shows up, barely defends it, and even when he does he only wins due to interference. He would’ve lost long ago if not for this interference. So if anything the group bloodline should be 100 but not Roman. Also Roman got pinned last year when he was pinned by Jey.
@@briancallaway1690Being champ for that long means nothing when he’s been booked an awful and pathetically weak champ. It’s super easy to be champ for this long when u always rely on interference to win (on top of barely showing up and barely defending). They make Roman out to be this dominant top guy when in reality he’s not. He’s just a terrible champ. He shouldn’t be a cowardly heel who cheats to win like Logan Paul (who it works with) he should be like Gunther who is a dominant heel who never relies on interference to win. He just wins by pure domination while still making his opponents look amazing. This is definitely how Roman should be. Gunther is a much better champ then Roman and I’m not even that big on Gunther but I’m not blind in seeing he’s a much better champ. If anything the Bloodline group as a whole I could see being 100 but Roman himself? Absolutely not. He’s been booked so badly.
@davidstratton696 so you don't think a heel should be champ? Let me guess, you're a Stardust fan boy? 90% of the time, a heel will win by some kind of interference or cheating. That's just how wrestling works.
@@briancallaway1690 It’s like u didn’t read my comment at all. Theirs a difference between a cowardly heel and a dominant heel. They make Roman out to be a dominant top guy when in reality he’s a cowardly weak looking champ. That’s a problem. It works for Logan who I like as champ but it doesn’t work for Roman. Gunther is a heel and never relies on interference to win. He wins by pure domination while still making his opponents look like a million bucks. This is how Roman should be. Roman is booked terribly as champ. And honestly someone who can only win by interference should not be champ for this long. Not that they shouldn’t be champ but for this long is just so dumb. Now put someone like Gunther in as long of a run as Roman has and I wouldn’t be mad cause he’s actually booked for it to work. On top of Roman hardly showing up and barely defending. Being champ for this long means absolutely nothing and doesn’t make him look strong just cause he’s held it for this long (it’s easy to hold it for this long when he barely defends and only wins due to interference. U can get out of here with that bs. He looks super weak and pathetic. On top of all his matches ending the same. He’s boring, weak, and pathetic as a champ.
Lol 64 isn't insult for maxinne duprey that's too high what's she even did in wwe to have any high rating she is most weakest jobber in female division
I love when fans get mad at the 2k ratings as if they actually matter. And I don't even mean that in a cynical way, like realistically, even in the game... The ratings don't mean anything.
Not really important but the two female cover stars , they couldn't at least give current cody (have no idea if they are any other versions of the American nightmare one) a rating equal to one of them? I just found out that one of the Rock's is 94 (have no ideA if it is current or classic), very curious what Hogan , Cena and Austin are, surprised if they out rank them too.
For real, I don't get why the rating is a big deal or even confrontational thing? Like you can change the rating in-game! If you want Roman at 76 and Cody at 99, you are free to do it!
Seth should be 96 behind Roman.Gunther and Logan Paul both being 90 is terrible. Paul should be 89 and Gunther should be 95 (5th behind Roman Seth Cody)
Nah Gunther should be 96 same as Rhea ripley. He dominant the roster for 2yrs and have been champion for 2yrs. Cody should be atleast 95 if Bianca belair is 95. Cody won more matches than Bianca belair in 2k23 and he is lower than her is weird also Cody is too no.1 face in wwe. Comes to seth Rollins he need to be 95 above than Becky who has 94 since seth achieved more success in 2023 than beth. Being world heavyweight champion, constantly winning matches with 1 or 2 loss possibly, dominated world heavyweight title defence
Gunther and Logan being the same is insane. Logan has been great for a non wrestler but he's not close to a 90, while Gunther has been dominant and the longest running Intercontinental champ ever, 90 seems low for him.
90 is good for Gunther right now. But Logan? He’s no longer a non wrestler. He’s been a wrestler for over over a year. And Logan has been doing amazing both in the ring and on the mic. I think both ratings are fair. Just because Logan isn’t the dominant force Gunther is doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve the same rating. They are different characters and have different reasons why they are high. 90 is a really good score too. Even if Gunther stayed at a 90 that’s still very high.
@@jordanmince7613 Again they are both high for different reasons. Just because Logan’s isn’t for the same reason as Gunther doesn’t mean Logan shouldn’t be rated high. Just be glad Gunther is rated high cause I feel like he’s one that would get get a lower number very stupidly. Like 82 or something.
well the current wrestlers are rated mostly on what they did that year. Even undertaker had a low rating in a year where he didn't do much. That's why this roman is 97 since he wasn't as great as in 2022.
man, I get it Austin Theory didn’t do much in 2023 but 72??? that’s incredibly low
But accurate
@@ParadiseDB7bronson in the 80s
Well they gave Logan Paul a fucking 90 so at this point nobody should be playing this game with the default ratings. I mean the games suck and shouldn't be played at all in the first place, but you get what I mean.
Wym he beat John Cena in 2023 and won elimination chamber to retain the US title
he's like a jobber rn
Austin Theory's rating was personal.
Last year Jimmy was an 89 and Jey was a 90 maybe that’s what John was thinking of
That’s definitely what he was thinking of.
Which "John" lol get it?
@@mychaeljones7526 I’m guessing it has to do with the USO’s and how it used to be really hard to tell them apart. But also theirs only 1 John in the video so it doesn’t really work 😂.
Roman to a Level 72 Theory: “Your daddy ain’t here anymore”
72?? how the hell is Theory lower than Chelsea? lmao
Theory's rating was personal
Cause A town down 😂
Even lower than ricochet and Andrew chase
Eric Bischoff is lowest at 58, man he's popular in WWE 😅
Or maybe that's because he's not a wrestler?
Love to have low score Eric in the games, him vs. Roman matches are 🔥😂
95-100 legends/top 3 wrestlers atm
90-95 main eventers
80-90 upper midcard
70-80 midcard
60-70 lower midcard
50-60 jobbers
jobbers and non-wrestlers
I don’t think 80-90 are midcarders. I think 80-85 are upper midcarders but 86-90 are main eventers that maybe just haven’t gotten their time to shine (like Sami Zayn). And Sami is definitely main event material he’s got it all.
yeah you're probably right,for me miz is like upper midcard and I would rate him like an 82. Or a liv morgan upper midcard around an 80.@@davidstratton696
It seems like low 70s are jobbers really. Remember the cutoff point was when Gargano was jobbing on B-shows and before the #DIY reunion and the stuff with R-Truth.
@@davidstratton696Sami is not main event level material dawg your tripping
Ratings this year are wack asf 😒
logan paul is higher than aj wtf
@@ratedrsuperstar4482exactly
@@ratedrsuperstar4482yeah aj is old and boring while logan is young and a champion. His overall should be better
@@jagerpudenz Since when did being old effect ratings? Legends get top ratings all the time lmao. Logan has cheated in literally every major match win he's had so even in kayfabe he shouldn't be high.
@@jagerpudenzSo explain Randy
Damn, John! From -10,002.5 on the last quiz to a HUGE 45 into a belt win! Never seen such a huge comeback, congrats!
Also the zoom on Dante's face at 15:42, when he said "If I get it on the money here, I'm screaming" was awesome :)
Tiffy Time was in 2k23 as a DLC
Yeah she got downgraded from an 80 to 79, dumb ratings
@@zxyn7One point downgrade. Incredibly dumb >_>
Sophie: *normal voice* '...Chelsea Green'.
Both boys, immediately: 'ChElSeAaAaA GrEeEeEn'!
Austin theory be 72 is crazy thank god we can edit overalls in the game
I know right? Changing Logan to an 85 because he's a good wrestler but he hasn't done much to warrant such a high number like 90
yeppp thats what i do... i try to change it to how they are doing in the last month or so....maybe 2 months....
roman.. cody... seth...gunther.....maybe even drew for mens, maybe randy i mean he has been ok the last couple months other then losing at rumble and chamber... logan is way to high how is logan 85 and theory 72 wth
@@MikeHenry3280 now logan rating is going to be way too high in 2k25 if he remains champions for longers and wins his defences
i just knew theory was going to be the wager 😭😭 his rating is so crazy
Should do an episode where it's basically what the Superstars ratings are in the game versus your opinion of what they should be
Honestly I like to imagine they just went fuck it and used a random number generator for some of the ratings.
The moment I knew the ratings in this game were borked was when I learned that the 1997 version of Eddie Guerrero(aka the year he won both the WCW US and Cruiserweight titles and had the instant classic Halloween Havoc match with Rey Mysterio) was given only a god damned 76 rating.
man i was on the edge of my seat for the wager round hoping Dante could pull off the comeback and retain his title. heartbreaking loss. 😥
Dante can take these kinds of beatings. When it comes to actual wrestling knowledge he almost always wins
facts
cuz he a nerd
AI quizzes usually stumps Dante too
Nobody:
Nobody at all:
Dante: NO WAY!!!!!!!!!
They did Theory dirty😂
Are you guys going to do My GM again this year? Really enjoy that
Dakota Kai just came back. It might be a little early to give her that rating.
72 for theory is insane disrespect tbh
Don’t choke, John.😂
Theory being 72 is beyond disrespectful
Kurt angle being lower then Logan is crazy
It’s crazy that Gargano had a lower rating than Chelsea.
John you were right about what you saw but it was for 2k23 for the usos
Bro Austin as 72 is bizarre
"I had the Angel Numbers, 777!"
Me: "JACKPOT". 😂
MyGM this year should be even better than last years really hope you guys give it another try
They said they threw out all past ratings and started from scratch. Thats why people's ratings changed so much. Basically what have you done for me lately ratings.
Then that’s even worse
@@AWESOMENISH Eh not really, if you look at kayfabe and the results these guys got last year all the ratings are pretty much spot on
They just made them all lower so a higher rating means more
Are you guys doing GM mode again this year?
2k23 went overboard with the ratings and 2k24 brought them to the dirt.
Theory should've been a 84... He literally won against Cena at Wrestlemania... The disrespect bruh... 2k must be high on something..
Winning against Cena is expected now though. That's his job now is to put over the younger guys. And he's happy to do it.
John said they "nerf" the nxt stars so confidently while being completely wrong 😂 that was gold
U guys have to do my GM fan of u guys eh
Did they get Dave Meltzer to do some of the rating
🤣🤣
Especially Theory's
They did a reset to have dedicated midcarders be in the 70s and uppers in the 80s and main event mainstays in the 90s and while I think they undershot on a few people (Theory!!) in a vacuum it seems fine. When they were slowly leaking the numbers it seemed horrible but everyone except the highest end people are low, so no one is low. Except Maxxine.
Yeah lot of people compare to other games because they don't understand that they completely changed it , 75 went from bad to average
That Austin Theory drop off from last year to this year is crazy
It’s awesome that when I found out about you guys I was grounded and I had a computer to do my school works and I would watch you guys while I did my school work
We need John vs Dante My GM Season 2 on WWE2K24 !!!!
I opened RUclips and was ready to cry if I didn’t see my Saturday quiz thank you boys
yep, this is going to be hard get ready gentleman hope one of you guys win?
Yeah Logan is way too high for a guy that's wrestled in like 5 matches total especially if he's tied with someone like Gunther who has been going strong as IC champ for years
What inspires the drip John you always lowkey stunting 😂
I don’t know if anyone remembers this particular video but it was way back when ‘22 was coming out and they did this same exact video. Dante kept getting the ratings on the dot while John would be off by a few numbers. Fast forward, now the roles are reversed. John’s getting them on the nose while Dante’s off by a few.
Starting with the Rebel Heart. This will be good.
We need battle of the brands again!!!
Stink Staches never disappoint🔥🔥
Thanks for doing my 2k quiz again!
MyGM bros coming 🔜
2K and their notoriously bad ratings, lol. Austin Theory hasn't done much but being a 72 is complete disrespect, especially when guys like Dom (who's pretty much a comedy act) are in the 80s.
Bron is too low, IMO
agreed
Next time you guys do this you guys should do guess the closets with out going over and if you both go over then the closets then
The fact they gave Gunther and Logan Paul the same rating is just the nail in the coffin for these godawful ratings lmao. Outside of kayfabe, Gunther is obviously ten times as good as Logan, and even in kayfabe, Gunther is like the only heel champion in the company who dominates by just being really damn strong instead of having to cheat like guys like Logan and even Roman does. These make literally no sense.
As a player idgaf i just change them but as superstars they get an idea of what the company thinks of them so its very interesting
We want… nay… we NEED MyGM bros back
I have a quiz idea but don't know how to put it together so someone else can steal this idea. When wwe 2k24 comes out have a genetic CAW (or make John and Dante) do entrances and the boys have to guess whose entrance it is.
36pts.
#AndNew Undisputed SCW Champion, John!
Good luck everyone and good luck to john and dante
As soon as John started talking smack, Dante caught up. John being overconfident never goes well.
Dante guessing 88 for Randy is wild
Roman Reigns should be 100 since he hasn't lost in like 2 years. He should be in God Mode lol
I agree, regardless of what some people think of him. He's been champion for 3 and a half years. There's no way he shouldn't be at 100.
No he shouldn’t he’s been an awful champ that can’t win on his own. He just always cheats to win and while that works for someone like Logan it doesn’t work with Roman. It just makes Roman look pathetic. They make him out to be this dominant top guy who’s been champ for this long when in reality he just looks weak. He literally only wins due to interference. And it’s easy to be champ for this long when he barely shows up, barely defends it, and even when he does he only wins due to interference. He would’ve lost long ago if not for this interference. So if anything the group bloodline should be 100 but not Roman. Also Roman got pinned last year when he was pinned by Jey.
@@briancallaway1690Being champ for that long means nothing when he’s been booked an awful and pathetically weak champ. It’s super easy to be champ for this long when u always rely on interference to win (on top of barely showing up and barely defending). They make Roman out to be this dominant top guy when in reality he’s not. He’s just a terrible champ. He shouldn’t be a cowardly heel who cheats to win like Logan Paul (who it works with) he should be like Gunther who is a dominant heel who never relies on interference to win. He just wins by pure domination while still making his opponents look amazing. This is definitely how Roman should be. Gunther is a much better champ then Roman and I’m not even that big on Gunther but I’m not blind in seeing he’s a much better champ. If anything the Bloodline group as a whole I could see being 100 but Roman himself? Absolutely not. He’s been booked so badly.
@davidstratton696 so you don't think a heel should be champ? Let me guess, you're a Stardust fan boy? 90% of the time, a heel will win by some kind of interference or cheating. That's just how wrestling works.
@@briancallaway1690 It’s like u didn’t read my comment at all. Theirs a difference between a cowardly heel and a dominant heel. They make Roman out to be a dominant top guy when in reality he’s a cowardly weak looking champ. That’s a problem. It works for Logan who I like as champ but it doesn’t work for Roman. Gunther is a heel and never relies on interference to win. He wins by pure domination while still making his opponents look like a million bucks. This is how Roman should be. Roman is booked terribly as champ. And honestly someone who can only win by interference should not be champ for this long. Not that they shouldn’t be champ but for this long is just so dumb. Now put someone like Gunther in as long of a run as Roman has and I wouldn’t be mad cause he’s actually booked for it to work. On top of Roman hardly showing up and barely defending. Being champ for this long means absolutely nothing and doesn’t make him look strong just cause he’s held it for this long (it’s easy to hold it for this long when he barely defends and only wins due to interference. U can get out of here with that bs. He looks super weak and pathetic. On top of all his matches ending the same. He’s boring, weak, and pathetic as a champ.
After her showing in the Elimination Chamber Tiffiany should be bumped to an 85 at least
I think everyone’s reaction was the same to Austin Theory’s rating 😂
For Austin Theory, I had 81 in my head. 72 seems like an insult, as does 64 for Maxxine Dupri.
Too much for her 🤣🤣
Lol 64 isn't insult for maxinne duprey that's too high what's she even did in wwe to have any high rating she is most weakest jobber in female division
'I hope we get Jimmy next!'
*Jimmy is next*
Solo and Jimmy should be 70s tops
Little mixup with points when logan paul popped up dante said 89 it was 90, never got given the point, i just realized
"Keep on gaming" sent me
I love when fans get mad at the 2k ratings as if they actually matter. And I don't even mean that in a cynical way, like realistically, even in the game... The ratings don't mean anything.
They’re a reflection.
guy on the right kinda looks like seth rollins if he had short hair
Logan paul being 90 is the most disgusting thing 2k did
Maxxine and Theory were done insanely dirty
I agree theory was done dirty, but 64 is very generous for Maxxine. She’s atrocious in the ring
@@oisquidyx I imagined her being 72 and Theory like 81
Eric Bischoff was 69, No Way José was 67, is she worse than them in ring?
@@P3TER_Official23yes, she's worst than josè
@@P3TER_Official23name one Maxine match that wasn't bad
@@P3TER_Official23 yes she is, I don’t think you realise how bad she actually is in the ring.
Not really important but the two female cover stars , they couldn't at least give current cody (have no idea if they are any other versions of the American nightmare one) a rating equal to one of them? I just found out that one of the Rock's is 94 (have no ideA if it is current or classic), very curious what Hogan , Cena and Austin are, surprised if they out rank them too.
I am surprised Cody ain't 95 but Bianca is 95 despite Bianca losing more matches than Cody in 2023 and Cody is too no.1 face of WWE
What's the longest title run on here?
For real, I don't get why the rating is a big deal or even confrontational thing? Like you can change the rating in-game! If you want Roman at 76 and Cody at 99, you are free to do it!
MY GM BROS!!!!!
Who had the worst rating on 2K 23?
It's always Erich Bischoff at 58 lol.
Undertaker should be 100, the Goat of all Time
Seth should be 96 behind Roman.Gunther and Logan Paul both being 90 is terrible. Paul should be 89 and Gunther should be 95 (5th behind Roman Seth Cody)
Nah Gunther should be 96 same as Rhea ripley. He dominant the roster for 2yrs and have been champion for 2yrs.
Cody should be atleast 95 if Bianca belair is 95. Cody won more matches than Bianca belair in 2k23 and he is lower than her is weird also Cody is too no.1 face in wwe.
Comes to seth Rollins he need to be 95 above than Becky who has 94 since seth achieved more success in 2023 than beth. Being world heavyweight champion, constantly winning matches with 1 or 2 loss possibly, dominated world heavyweight title defence
Graiden shouldve looked at the pictures before sending it to them they are all over the place
Gunther and Logan being the same is insane. Logan has been great for a non wrestler but he's not close to a 90, while Gunther has been dominant and the longest running Intercontinental champ ever, 90 seems low for him.
90 is good for Gunther right now. But Logan? He’s no longer a non wrestler. He’s been a wrestler for over over a year. And Logan has been doing amazing both in the ring and on the mic. I think both ratings are fair. Just because Logan isn’t the dominant force Gunther is doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve the same rating. They are different characters and have different reasons why they are high. 90 is a really good score too. Even if Gunther stayed at a 90 that’s still very high.
@@davidstratton696lol no logan should not be rated as high as gunther
@@jordanmince7613 Again they are both high for different reasons. Just because Logan’s isn’t for the same reason as Gunther doesn’t mean Logan shouldn’t be rated high. Just be glad Gunther is rated high cause I feel like he’s one that would get get a lower number very stupidly. Like 82 or something.
@@jordanmince7613 Gunther should be in same rating as Rhea 96
50 seconds in hoping going to the comments doesn’t spoil it but I know Johnny right away because I’m a big Gargano fan and he got did so dirty
AJ Styles even though he has been kinda not doing a lot is a little low.
well the current wrestlers are rated mostly on what they did that year. Even undertaker had a low rating in a year where he didn't do much. That's why this roman is 97 since he wasn't as great as in 2022.
Speaking of My GM you should do that again.
Theory getting shafted.
Liv Morgan should be a 42
Lmao
Yep
Dante will win
ok....whats the rule again?
Why even do this if they saw some of the ratings before this video
I just checked, 58 is the lowest rating and it’s Eric Bishoff
Three women are lower than Maxxine which shocked me
Who are they
The lowest Male wrestler rating is 61. Lowest non wrestler is 58 unless you an beat up Eric Bischoff. The lowest female wrestler is 62.
Never know there was weakest male wrestler than weakest female wrestler in wwe. Who were those
idk about the most points but John def has the record for the least at over -10k lmao
John guesses 84 for both Iyo Sky and Austin Theory and then is blown away when Theory’s lower😅
Why not
Randy should be higher than 91 got to be 97 at least
Fair enough theory has been more or less a jobber in 2023. But a 72 is ridiculous. Same with Ciampa and Gargano
Kane 79 is crazy
John last year jimmy and jey were 89 and 90 I thinks that’s where u got it from