This is a great tutorial. I may be backward but I was always of the opinion that standing off hand shooting was the best way to learn and really hone your skills. I taught myself to shoot like that as a teenager both right and left handed and anytime I tried to rest the rifle I felt it interfered with the recoil. Shooting from standing is a true test of technique though. Like you said breathing is vitally important as is the right grip that suits you to manage the recoil and a nice smooth trigger pull. I always thought shooting off a bench was cheating 🤣
I feel pretty much the same. I started bench resting purely because so many you tubers say it shows the accuracy of a rifle they're demonstrating. Weirdly, I get better accuracy from certain rifles offhand than I do on a bench. Remington Express Compact is a good example.
@@PlanetDrewdog yeah totally agree. I’d hazard a guess you might be a better shot than most of these experts using their bench rests 😉 like you say it does give a better example of the rifles capabilities though. I’m sure some of these experts say they’re at 40 metres when really they’re only at about 20 to make the gun look better too 🤣
I let the skill slip from my youth to my now retired years. However, I've been practicing a few minutes every day. I started at 10 yards for a month. Then out to 20, 30 and larger reactive targets up to 50. Now I can give a tin can fits at 30 yards. Another good interesting and educational video.
I agree with you Drew, once a rifle is proven to be accurate it's time to work on ourselves away from the bench. I typically shoot from kneeling position or completely offhand....point and squeeze the trigger. Too I've found using lower magnification helps. Cheers my friend 🍻👍P.S thanks for the shout-out 😉
I'll certainly give this a try. I've been tied to the bench for the past few years - although giving the shooting sticks a try recently. I know I can be very accurate with a springer out to 50m from the bench, however the Sticks have been a challenge....Keep up the great work - you are a breath of fresh air.....
Thanks for great advice, all my mate bench rest at the range which is great for setting up your sights but I alway prefer to stand I've only been taking air gun shooting seriously since February 2022. I go up the range once a week and almost shoot every day in my garden. I'm gonna have a crack at the sit down on a stool now I've seen you explain it. Thanks Keep them coming 😎✌️
I haven’t got my air rifle yet I’m going to the BSA shop in Birmingham. I used to use a sling for standing kneeling and brown or leaning on a tree never zeroed my rifle on a bench. I told my two grandsons they shouldn’t shoot at 🐀 rats or woodes until they could hit 10 beer bottle tops on the trot. I will be happy at 50 yards before I go hunting. I think you’re right lm sure we’ll all be going off grid soon. Thanks and stay safe pilgrim.
I was thinking the same as you, well done for spelling it out, and the idea of starting with each harder shooting position at a closer range and gradually extending. Great stuff, liked and subscribed
I'm now a frail 77 yr old, and I can no longer hold a heavy rifle offhand, so I have to sit at the bench to continue my passion. With my guitar playing it's the only thing that keeps me going, but I understand what you are saying.
I understand John, and the day is coming when I will be very grateful to have a bench to shoot from too. Agreed, the guitar is so good for the soul my friend. Power to you, Drew
Hello Sir, Thank you very much for your caring, informative, inspiring, instructional video. I'm just getting into airgunning in the last few years after wanting to do it all my life. I'm a twin to another boy. Needless to say, airguns were forbidden. That rule carried regrettably until our much loved father passed in 2017. I didn't race out to buy one. It just slowly unravelled. Seeing your film makes me feel guilty, as though I've subconsciously taken the easy way out with using a bench. I use a bench to sight in an air rifle as this is the most accurate I can be. When hunting, I use a trigger stick. I find them great and so help my accuracy. If I had begun airgunning when I wanted to, in my teens, I think I would have realised the importance of standing and shooting unaided and would have been something I'd have practiced a lot. I think you've been the kick up my backside I needed and will now pay much more attention to how I aim and practice. I do find it difficult holding steady when standing up. I've considered doing some dumb bell work for this, for my arms and shoulders. However, I think the best thing to do is keep practising and work hard to be better. I did notice your low fishing stool, Sir. Your stool being low means your knees come up, giving you a great elbow rest. When I'm out in the field without my trigger stick, I would go down on one knee and use the other as an elbow support similar to how you do. Thank you Sir. You've really made me think and consider what I'm going to do and how I'd like to become a better, more accurate shooter. Best wishes, Ian.
My thoughts here, regarding off hand shooting practice. Go & shoot clays with a under & over. Not some of these pansy auto shot guns. When you have the hand eye coordination through that, pick up an air rifle is easy work. I actually prefer shooting with a springer in the field. It doesn't make such a mess & is a bit more stealthy! Loving your channel fella, nice to see someone on here who is on the level Keep them coming 👍
Nice bit of shooting! I like to shoot my bsa lightning xl tactical "free-hand" occasionally, just to remind myself what it's like. I'm a reasonable shot using this break barrel out to about 25 yards.
I've always sat elbows to knees makes your triangles for support, next "go to" is kneeling unless the ground is bad/wet. if there's a convenient tree I'll stand and use it, only free shoot standing if its the only option. just common sense to me +50 years now. no real recoil with an airgun but I grip the same, pulling a couple lbs both hands into my shoulder as if there were some, for it to be a solid extension of myself. at a bench I'll use my elbows, good enough! its not a dislike for a rest or is it, just never felt the need for one.
Benchrest is fun to test pellets and accuracy of any rifle or just push thr range a bit... But it is not really representative of any real life hunting /field target situations! Interesting tips... I believe ive never ever shot while sitting but unsupported 🤔 Shooting off hand sure is an other pair of gloves!
@@PlanetDrewdog I could do the "same thing but differently" for hours haha [Like installing snares after the storm! I finaly got 2 Snowshoe after more than a week or health walkin" 😢] *But I do like trying new things like slingshots last summer...* _throws them in the garbage._
I'm always elbows to knees or kneel unless there's a branch I can pin to. its different plinking with the BB guns and pistols where I prefer free standing point-n-shoot 10-13 yards.
Hey Jace, well I haven't seen one but I'll bet there's a long barrel PS out there somewhere. For me, I feel comfortable with the carbine - beautifully balanced for such a heavy (ish) rifle.
Hiya, why do you think you fkd up my friend? Gotta be honest, I never tried one - never had the chance yet. I am about to review a Gamo Maxxim Elite 10x though.
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This is a great tutorial. I may be backward but I was always of the opinion that standing off hand shooting was the best way to learn and really hone your skills. I taught myself to shoot like that as a teenager both right and left handed and anytime I tried to rest the rifle I felt it interfered with the recoil. Shooting from standing is a true test of technique though. Like you said breathing is vitally important as is the right grip that suits you to manage the recoil and a nice smooth trigger pull. I always thought shooting off a bench was cheating 🤣
I feel pretty much the same. I started bench resting purely because so many you tubers say it shows the accuracy of a rifle they're demonstrating. Weirdly, I get better accuracy from certain rifles offhand than I do on a bench. Remington Express Compact is a good example.
@@PlanetDrewdog yeah totally agree. I’d hazard a guess you might be a better shot than most of these experts using their bench rests 😉 like you say it does give a better example of the rifles capabilities though. I’m sure some of these experts say they’re at 40 metres when really they’re only at about 20 to make the gun look better too 🤣
I let the skill slip from my youth to my now retired years. However, I've been practicing a few minutes every day. I started at 10 yards for a month. Then out to 20, 30 and larger reactive targets up to 50. Now I can give a tin can fits at 30 yards. Another good interesting and educational video.
Good to hear, and yes - starting close is the way to go. Starting at 30yds + can lead to becoming disheartened I think.
as always great content and great method to improvement . just ordered a cp2 buck rail kit .
Thanks Damion, it seems to work for me. Starting at close range is the secret to not getting disheartened I find.
I've been shooting for over thirty years and he has pointed out things I havnt even thought about before
I agree with you Drew, once a rifle is proven to be accurate it's time to work on ourselves away from the bench. I typically shoot from kneeling position or completely offhand....point and squeeze the trigger. Too I've found using lower magnification helps. Cheers my friend 🍻👍P.S thanks for the shout-out 😉
Yeah good point about the lower magnification, I should have mentioned that for longer range control 👍
I'll certainly give this a try. I've been tied to the bench for the past few years - although giving the shooting sticks a try recently. I know I can be very accurate with a springer out to 50m from the bench, however the Sticks have been a challenge....Keep up the great work - you are a breath of fresh air.....
Thanks Steve, yes it's a challenge but I find the improvements come quite swiftly really.
Thanks for the support my friend.
You have a great channel brother.
I only shoot off hand. There's no bench rest when out walking in the woods or field when hunting, so I want to stay on point off hand.
Thanks for great advice, all my mate bench rest at the range which is great for setting up your sights but I alway prefer to stand I've only been taking air gun shooting seriously since February 2022.
I go up the range once a week and almost shoot every day in my garden.
I'm gonna have a crack at the sit down on a stool now I've seen you explain it.
Thanks
Keep them coming 😎✌️
Thanks brother - yes the stool at the right height is really comfortable to shoot for extended time, plus the rifle feels fully controlled.
I haven’t got my air rifle yet I’m going to the BSA shop in Birmingham. I used to use a sling for standing kneeling and brown or leaning on a tree never zeroed my rifle on a bench. I told my two grandsons they shouldn’t shoot at 🐀 rats or woodes until they could hit 10 beer bottle tops on the trot. I will be happy at 50 yards before I go hunting. I think you’re right lm sure we’ll all be going off grid soon. Thanks and stay safe pilgrim.
Yeah that's wise and compassionate advice for your grandsons my friend. I hope you find the perfect rifle for you at BSA. let me know what you buy.
I was thinking the same as you, well done for spelling it out, and the idea of starting with each harder shooting position at a closer range and gradually extending. Great stuff, liked and subscribed
Thank you Jan.
Drew.
I'm now a frail 77 yr old, and I can no longer hold a heavy rifle offhand, so I have to sit at the bench to continue my passion. With my guitar playing it's the only thing that keeps me going, but I understand what you are saying.
I understand John, and the day is coming when I will be very grateful to have a bench to shoot from too.
Agreed, the guitar is so good for the soul my friend.
Power to you,
Drew
Hello Sir, Thank you very much for your caring, informative, inspiring, instructional video.
I'm just getting into airgunning in the last few years after wanting to do it all my life.
I'm a twin to another boy. Needless to say, airguns were forbidden. That rule carried regrettably until our much loved father passed in 2017. I didn't race out to buy one. It just slowly unravelled.
Seeing your film makes me feel guilty, as though I've subconsciously taken the easy way out with using a bench.
I use a bench to sight in an air rifle as this is the most accurate I can be. When hunting, I use a trigger stick. I find them great and so help my accuracy. If I had begun airgunning when I wanted to, in my teens, I think I would have realised the importance of standing and shooting unaided and would have been something I'd have practiced a lot.
I think you've been the kick up my backside I needed and will now pay much more attention to how I aim and practice. I do find it difficult holding steady when standing up. I've considered doing some dumb bell work for this, for my arms and shoulders. However, I think the best thing to do is keep practising and work hard to be better.
I did notice your low fishing stool, Sir. Your stool being low means your knees come up, giving you a great elbow rest.
When I'm out in the field without my trigger stick, I would go down on one knee and use the other as an elbow support similar to how you do.
Thank you Sir. You've really made me think and consider what I'm going to do and how I'd like to become a better, more accurate shooter.
Best wishes, Ian.
Thank you so much for your comment Ian. Yeah I try to keep challenging myself with working out of my comfort zone - and it does pay off I believe.
My thoughts here, regarding off hand shooting practice. Go & shoot clays with a under & over. Not some of these pansy auto shot guns. When you have the hand eye coordination through that, pick up an air rifle is easy work.
I actually prefer shooting with a springer in the field.
It doesn't make such a mess & is a bit more stealthy!
Loving your channel fella, nice to see someone on here who is on the level
Keep them coming 👍
Thank you kindly! Agreed on the shotgun point entirely 👍
Agreed to hand hold is a skill, by the way the remington express has settled down now seems to like the JSB Exact pointed 15.89gr
Yeah my express likes the JSB Jumbo Diabolo - same weight 😎
Great video and really practical and valuable tips. Your process you described to wane off the bench shooting is simple yet sure to give results
Thanks Tyrone.
Drew
Nice bit of shooting! I like to shoot my bsa lightning xl tactical "free-hand" occasionally, just to remind myself what it's like. I'm a reasonable shot using this break barrel out to about 25 yards.
Yeah it's a very satisfying process - when it goes well!
Heyup Drew, thanks for the education, insightful quality review as usual, Best Regards, Jon 👍 HETV 👍
Hey Jon mate! Hope you're doing well brother, Drew
Great advice. Thank you.
Thank you Paul.
I like standing up better for me but I do find a bench easyer for target shooting but both ways work perfectly fine
Agreed. It's all good.
its like weightraning ,to get better lots of holds and movements must be done
Agreed.
I've always sat elbows to knees makes your triangles for support, next "go to" is kneeling unless the ground is bad/wet. if there's a convenient tree I'll stand and use it, only free shoot standing if its the only option. just common sense to me +50 years now. no real recoil with an airgun but I grip the same, pulling a couple lbs both hands into my shoulder as if there were some, for it to be a solid extension of myself. at a bench I'll use my elbows, good enough! its not a dislike for a rest or is it, just never felt the need for one.
Yep, agreed on all points 👍
Benchrest is fun to test pellets and accuracy of any rifle or just push thr range a bit...
But it is not really representative of any real life hunting /field target situations!
Interesting tips... I believe ive never ever shot while sitting but unsupported 🤔
Shooting off hand sure is an other pair of gloves!
Yeah I think it's great to keep on challenging ourselves - (I get bored easy...)
@@PlanetDrewdog I could do the "same thing but differently" for hours haha
[Like installing snares after the storm! I finaly got 2 Snowshoe after more than a week or health walkin" 😢]
*But I do like trying new things like slingshots last summer...*
_throws them in the garbage._
@@LowkeyAirgunner ha! Yeah I've had so many people tell me to try slingshots 'n the like - I'll give it a try...
I'm always elbows to knees or kneel unless there's a branch I can pin to. its different plinking with the BB guns and pistols where I prefer free standing point-n-shoot 10-13 yards.
@@PlanetDrewdog good slingshot is lots of fun, a thicker flat band throwing 3/8" steel ball is pretty good for the 10-15 bucks spent.
Best all around is fun & challenging.
Bench position is 1 position and boring.
Hunting has many many constantly changing positions and circumstances.
Yeah it's all about the challenge.
Good information just found your channel and enjoy the content just subscribe stay safe
Thank you my friend. Appreciated.
I just might have to get me a pro sport. I wonder if anyone has installed a longer barrel on one.
Hey Jace, well I haven't seen one but I'll bet there's a long barrel PS out there somewhere. For me, I feel comfortable with the carbine - beautifully balanced for such a heavy (ish) rifle.
Guess i fkd up with the gamo whisper ??.
Hiya, why do you think you fkd up my friend? Gotta be honest, I never tried one - never had the chance yet. I am about to review a Gamo Maxxim Elite 10x though.
@@PlanetDrewdog maybe i shudda waited and got weihrauch , seems best option now . Look forward to the review ..
@@Happy_Limpet Well, I see a good few people saying the Whisper is a useful piece of kit 👍
@@Happy_Limpet I don’t know of a single Gamo that’d outclass a Weihrauch, It’s like comparing a Ford to a Ferrari
@@wodensblot yeah , the ford is more affordable and does the job as well ?!.