I own a transport company and I have DAF, MAN, Volvo and Mercedes trucks and so far the most reliable one is MAN (a 2015 d26 480hp with more than a million km only needed regular service like oil changes and filters), with Volvo we've had DPF issues and some electrical anomalies, Mercedes had issues with the retarder(small metal fillings blocked the radiators)and my DAF had issues with the exhaust aftertreatment (also no one can figure why it uses lots of adblue). By far the most economical is our Mercedes (a 450hp unit) with DAF coming second and MAN and Volvo are quite similar here. In terms of cab comfort all my drivers love the DAF, it has a really well designed cab but Mercedes comes second with MAN being the most outdated. We haven't ran Iveco or Scania(we avoid Scania because it's way to expensive and doesn't make much economic sense, I prefer to better pay my drivers). For servicing I do have my own service station and all trucks get serviced yearly or at 100k km(depending on what comes first, we also have telemetry systems and some trucks would adjust their service intervals depending on how hard they have been working). None of them left drivers stranded so far
You forgot the MAN D4276, a bigger-bore version of the D38 that has not been introduced in MAN’s trucks (yet). All MAN inline six diesels of recent decades have been designed for two displacements each - the D2866/76, D2066/2676, D1556/E1856 and most recently the D3876/4276.
I have worked on all kinds of engines over several decades and have to say the best engines I have ever come accross were made by Hanomag. Only one problem; they don't make them anymore but they are above all others.
With the in-line six-cylinder Mercedes has already made a huge step forward, compared to the older V6 engines, but the MAN with D26 (almost 480hp) now consumes 6 liters less in a 4x4 semi and is also much quieter and better sprung than the Mercedes . The predecessor MAN with 500 hp was even better, but it also drank a lot fuel. But my best truck was still the F2000. Simple, quiet, robust and powerful.
F2000 it's a tank, not a truck. A living legend. Too bad there is no AdBlue system to add it in order to increase the pollution norm from E3 to E5 or E6.
New trucks should be good for around 500,000k miles. After their warranty expires, expect replacement of gearboxes, injectors, electronic boxes for the DEF system and much more. Nothing to do with my old truck that hasn't had an injector changed in the last 16 years or nearly 2 million kilometers. Good luck to the future generations of drivers! They will need it.
We've got euro 6 with more than 1 million km, and the most reliable one We've got it's a MAN D26 witch has only needed regular servicing, it's still on the original clutch dpf fuel pumps and turbo
@@Stef.Cata051 That's what I said 1million km are just over 500k miles. That's not very many kilometers for these engines. There are cars that drive 1 million kilometers. And 1 million kilometers should not be an advertisement for this type of engine. The automatic gearbox warranty on Volvo trucks is up to 750k miles. And 450k miles on the Volvo engine. It is normal for the truck to reach these miles in most cases.
The B50 rating on a lot of truck engines are still in the million mile range, but the manufacturers have been cheating. A lot of the items that had life expectancy ratings are now maintenance items. I'm also seeing all the high power numbers and wondering what that is doing to engine life expectancy. Given the same configuration, build quality and displacement, a lower power spec engine that is adequate for the intended use will last longer than its higher output counterpart. That being said, I would expect to be on original fuel pump, dpf and turbo at 1 million km/620,000 miles. A clutch should be good for well over that distance, but it is one of the items that has a lot of variables that affect lifespan.
Its the merc for me, seen V8 trucks transport up to 100+ tons to DRC, in a single route. Plus its the more common commercial truck in East Africa. Maintenance costs are reasonable too.
You sad everything my friend we have a company in DRC and we started with MAN and we had only problems...alot ot problems in a span of 1 year we lost 5 MAN of the 6! We decided to buy Mercedes Actros since 2017 and all of them are still working in DRC they have more than one million kM on the clock !
i am not gonna say that that is bether than this, but the gearboxes Volvo offers twin clutch non-synchronized transmissions that change faster than the boost pressure drops between gears, have seen 550's loaded to 50 ton chase down lighter loaded Scanias with similar engine performance in the hills, and in Norway we got nothing but up's and downs so that is a game changer from the older gearboxes where you had to drop 2 gears as you needed time to load boost again, these new ones drops half a gear and keeps going
The transmission of Volvo truck is the best because it work with I SHIFT speed box you should make some research about the I SHIFT transmission to understand
@@Team_Reaper.All the above state their facts, you issue out a ridicule. Besides, we can't love the same thing. No reason calling someone a Scania fanboy. It's his choice to love Scania.
I have worked at both scania and Mercedes and I will honestly say the scania v8 has much more problems than the Mercedes, the only time I ever saw merc engines fail was when they were ran dry by drivers ignoring low oil level and pressure warning. I cannot say the same about about scania plus the Mercedes is a lot easier to work on. Scania have brought out a new 6 cylinder engine that looks a lot more like the Mercedes and man engine so time will tell if its any good.
I’ve been a truck driver for the past 8 years and still rolling and I’ve heard stories about trucks and engines, confort and disconfort and for the most part, everyone said that Scania is the king of engines and technology but from my experience, for driving a MAN for the entire time going from first models Euro5 to the latest Euro 6 model now and different engine configurations and transmissions (all automatic MAN and Scania) I can say that MAN is a technical bullet proof machine. Even though they’re known for their sometimes electrical issues (which most brands have nowadays considering the mass digitalisation), on the mechanical part, they’re tanks and provide a very reasonable fuel efficiency no matter the engine spec chosen. I wish I would’ve driven other brands as well to provide info about them, but if I ever was going to recommend a brand to someone, MAN would be the one without even having second thoughts!
I am in North America and know all about north American trucks. I have been planning to move to the East (Russia and ex Soviet countries ). I am searching about European trucks,most videos compare driving comfortability not much the engines and drive train. Based on my research MAN (2002-2010 years ) would be the best option for my needs . I will be on a low budget owner operator to start my transport company. I will be mostly hauling fruits and vegetables from central Asian countries to Russia to sell them there . I have connections and networking I just need a good reliable truck
Each in its own way. In my opinion for T.I.R use, at least for European roads, the ideal would be a VOLVO truck with a DAF cabin and a SCANIA engine...
Of course they are much more efficient and environmentally-friendly than their forerunners, but none of them can sound as magnificent as an OM442 or OM402 V8 Mercedes diesels, which were used in 70s, 80s and 90s.
I’ve driven all these makes apart from MAN,without a doubt Scania is the choice for me,reliability is the name of the game along with comfort and ease of driving. Volvo comes a very close second but just doesn’t have the fit and finish of the Scania and the engines are Not as powerful or as quite. Mercedes,I drove a six wheel concrete mixer with the Gutless V6 engine,good quality cab and chassis but that engine was pathetic but reliable just like a Gardner used to be.
Scania also supply a range of 6 cylinder engines up to 540hp (soon to be 560hp). Correct outcome. The 2 Swedish makes would come out on top in an international list of big trucks. Especially for fuel economy & driver comfort.
We've had them all, but Scania is a clear winner for our business. Volvo is great too, but has a higher fuel consumption. We sacked MB because of the poor economy and service. MAN wasn't as good as expected, but had a very smooth sound.
Pretty soon the full BEV -Semi Trucks will enter not just Tesla Semi Truck but also Mercedes e-Casacadia, Man , Volvo, VoltaZero, Bollinger and others Nikola, BYD & other new chinese & korean brands will have first full electric Semi-Trucks ready for first customers in all major cities for local services & delivery trucks starting with :Tesla will have first orders for Pepsi (Elon did confirm it will start in December this year).. the rest will follow soon MAN has started to replace biggest European Airports old diesel trucks with full electric semi-trucks, Volvo same, e-Cascadia will be mostly used in US market along withNikola & Bollinger, BYD will support first Asian market then they will spread to other markets as well.. so yeah..
@@poplaurentiu4148 the problem with a long haul trucking is how much of the trucks weight is battery and how much is gonna be merchandise, sure small local trucking maybe, but for the long haul we are far of the tech to make it feesable yet
I worked at Scania's production facility in Södertälje south of Stockholm for two years on the rear axle assembly line, the complex has the size of a town...
In europe 90% of the heavy 40/44 t trucks are being used with engines in the 13 liter class, 15 or 16 liters are mainly for special operations or ooerators…
Depending on tons of factors, the answer always an be different. In my opinion the truck and engine that lasts the longest time will be the one, that its driver loves the most. If the driver and owner of the company both are interested in the needs of their truck(s), the lifespan will expand on most trucks. So know your equipment and if possible love it and treat it like its your own!
I've driven the Mercedes actros L but I never thought much to the actual pulling power out on the road when I was hauling a trailer full of potatoes. It seems to take some time to get moving off the mark when fully loaded and that's in all types of power modes so maybe it could be the gear box or computers that confuse it hence the delay in reaction time in setting off. I must admit the interior of the Mercedes is very nice and it has plenty of toys and gadgets to play with and they've kept the dashboard tidy by having everything on the touchscreen with just a few selected buttons still on the dashboard just for quicker operation which was a nice touch but the camera instead of mirrors take some getting used to especially when reversing onto a bay with direct sunlight as it creates a bit of a shadow effect but I'm sure Mercedes will correct this. If I had to choose one I would go with the volvo for the power as so far this is the best one I've driven but I've yet to try the MAN and scania so I look forward to it 😁
We think the SCANIA V-8 engine is world,s best. We in the Netherland,s travellercheques, from the port of Rotterdam and Amsterdam to destinations in Asia, Africa, Arabia, Russia and so on. No problems in the desserts and in polar conditions. We think world,s best ! Kind regards. 👌🇳🇱👍🍷👋
The number of service locations is filled in wrong in the table at the end, Volvo and Mercedes are confused. So Mercedes wins with 22 points, then comes Scania with 21, Volvo with 19 and MAN with 16. But, as You can see in the comments below, there are further aspects, which worth to consider, such as price, running costs and reliability. It would be interesting to see a more precise comparison with more aspects and with more brands (DAF, Iveco, Renault).
Sound and engine looks probably aren’t too relevant in a truck as they are in a car, but the Scania V8 looks great and sounds even better than the other manufacturers I6’s
I run a truck body shop, i get to talk to MAN and Mercedes drivers. Seams like people do like Mercedes more specially there latest CNG engine since its way cheaper compared to scania and iveco. Maybe its due to where i live but 80% of older trucks running arround are Mercedes, those old Actros MP1s all over as well as the first and 2nd gen Ategos. They say mercedes has the best fuel economy and chepest service cost. Also from my standpoint mercedes is the most simpler to repair or remove the parts from
Depends on the gearbox been driving a 68plate Volvo 460hp with 800+k km and now stuck in a 71plate Merc 2545 with only 130k give me Volvo better gearbox, and the level of comfort Volvo
Scania for engine sound, MAN for military because of ground clearance, Mercedes (old engines) in the Unimog to use has a all terrain motorhome, Volvo for driving safe and if you aren't a really good driver. And always manual transmission for off-road, for that I would go with the Unimog.
man also has a great sound, and what do you mean ground clearance? wtf are you looking at🤣 why are you comparing all these trucks for different things, all trucks have a good sound, man v8 euro 5 has the best sound imo, and man tga open pipe scania is just unique for its v8 sound, but man sounds better, anyways scania also has good clearance for example scania xt
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@@stigandrmyrardalur5208 because even with all these new things, if you break a transmission it's easier to fix.
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@@Europets2 I'm talking about what we had in the army, we have Mercedes and MAN, MAN are the ones that are higher.
Being a truckmechanic and have done several services on volvos,mercedes,scanias and MAN. i prefere MAN, just for the easy service and easy to change parts, volvo is easy too.
Personally, I don't care about trucks. I will neither buy or drive one. But I've talked to several people that worked in one of the MAN factorys, and for Scania. Compared to the Scania-production/factory, MAN isn't that careful with the components as they are at Scania. So when the MAN-workers visited Scania to learn to assemble the rear axle and gearboxes they started to assemble the parts with hits on sensitive spots with hammers, as they do in the MAN-factory. And everytime MAN sending their part to Scania for a co-op assemble, their components always came in a random and uncareful way of packing, and the parts were always dirty as f*ck. What I want to say is that Scania has a higher standard and finnish on their products. From the handling of the smallest parts to the complete truck. -It's a different mindset.
I would say Volvo. Volvo has a long reputation for reliable and safe trucks, that too they also specialise in construction equipment! Scania engines are good too, the V8 is a celebrity in the truck world, EVERYONE loves the Scania V8 for its sound, and modification possibilities! But I feel like Volvo trucks look good, they never age. Scania trucks look great when brand new, but after 6-10 years, they show their age (but still reliable)
So from my experience, even if I haven't driven any brand in operation, but worked with Mercedes Engines (V6 of the MP2/MP3s and the new I6s) and just have to say, that in terms of reliability the MB Engines are pretty much bullet proof. I also have some buddies working with or driving MAN and Scania. The company which has a couple Scania Trucks has much more problems with them as I had with the MB. Nearly once a week 1 of their I think 5 Scania (old Gen) has a broken NOX-Sensor. The MAN guys report, that they had a couple of problems with the Gearboxes of the trucks. And I also heared that DAF has big problems with the injectors. But all in all I think today you can buy any truck brand and don't buy the wrong one. Every brand has its advantages and disadvantages but there are no "bad trucks" being produced in modern times. Nevertheless I swear on MB (engines) even if they often are called "retiree" because of the slow shifting gearbox. ;)
mb, iveco, man also had v8 bro, and volvo can make same specs of the v8 with their i6 so it DOESNT MATTER ... its just a fancy marketing for scania, nothing more
@@johnnyhun1 With connecting roods looking through the block. Egr and scr + double turbo and big fuel consumption. while the Scania v8 makes due with just scr and much cleaner burn and better fuel consumption. It aint without reason volvo is sued by the mining industry for not delivering
I am currently in a Volvo FH 500 had the privilege to drive the FM LNG and can say that both are unchallenged in pull power but as a driver of many other trucks find this list short of one manufacturer “DAF” - I am looking forward to getting the XG 530 as a XF 530 106 fan, I will also be trial testing electric trucks from Volvo & MAN when we receive demos’ in 2023
For me Volvo is better with engine 13 L 460hp and 2800 NM or 500hp. Volvo does not need much maintenance and lives a large virtual life and meets all the requirements even in terms of comfort in the cabin is very convenient ، Even the man truck is great and a little cheaper than the Volvo and Scania truck, it's especially in the hard business category the best option man tgs 33.480
This is a workplace! Imagine an office where only muffled noises can be heard. Imagine an office where powerful sound comes from all devices. What I want to say, the sound, the music, the concert, what a Scania delivers is a performance, theatre, stage performance all in one. No question it MUST be a Scania.
But Scania don't make economic sense if that is all it has to offer over the other brands. Reliability, serviceability, fuel economy, uptime, are bigger factors than "sounds and theatre".
@@sepg5084 What would you have answered if I had named a different brand? Because as a driver you don't think about supposed things. The Scanias I drove were all great. OK years ago my shifter broke off :-) (Oldy) But nothing else. I am/was a careful driver. Scanias were rather inconspicuous in the points mentioned. What's your opinion? (value free)
Ralf Weidmann: Scania has no good sound , there are the noisiest engines around together with Mercedes and Volvo . But it seems you like to get your ears destroyed by those engines.
1 Scania. 2 Volvo. 3 Man and Mercedes together. That's my opinion as mechanic. For maintenance costs Mercedes today is the highest, maybe Scania and volvo parts are very expensive, but trust me you will be changing only oil filters and brake pads for 150000 miles before any mechanical issues, when Man and Merc start breaking something always around 60000 miles. Also I have to admit M-B and Man are pushing a lot experimental new parts and systems on commercial vehicles, every year a single model can be built with multiple mechanical/electrical/ pneumatic modifications plus various recalls and controls units software upgrades. So, the race for the podium is still on..
Fun fact, that Scania DC7 engine is actually a Cummins ISB 6.7L Euro6. We have Scania buses here in Helsinki (Finland) with these DC7 engine they are nice to drive and move fast :) Scania DC7 280HP to be exact.
D38 is the most powerful MAN truck engine in production. But, it is not MAN's most powerful truck engine of all time, that would be D2868, the 680hp 16.4L V8 for the 1st gen TGX (and RMMV HX81 tank transporter).
Operators always choose wich total package is best. When it comes to certain markets generally each manufacturers excels in one. MB is very good in heavy vehicels who work in urban areas like f.e. garbage trucks, public transport city busses. Scania for long heavy and convoi exeptionel cargo hauling MAN for 6x6 and 8x8 constructionsite dumptrucks. Volvo mostly for ergonomic and safety long haul cargo trucks and coaches A good local dealer also is important wich truckbrand is bought by the operator. Those trucks cost alot of money, equiped with aditional machinery even an insane amount of money! I saw for 2 weeks a brandnew MAN 8x8 converted to a sewer clean/ pipeline inspection vehicle deliverd lately at a pricetag of €600.000 ! The entire package was a technical marvel to behold
Unbelievable you didn’t mention DAF the number one in Europe Ongelofelijk dat je DAF niet noemt de nummer één trekker bouwer in Europa. De nieuw XG is zijn tijd ver vooruit en dat zal DAF nog wel even blijven.
@@obelic71 Yeah, that's why in Indonesia, it's easier to spot Mercedes-Benz bus compared to Scania Heck, even most of Indonesian biggest Bus Rapid Transit (TransJakarta) fleets are Mercedes-Benz (if we also include Fuso Canter based bus), and Scania only comes in 2nd place (3rd place: Toyota/Hino, 4th Isuzu, 5th Volvo, and 6th are Chinese bus from the middle of nowhere)
The way MAN pumps air when low sounds like some 1940 PANZER 🤣 The others are smoother doing it, I always know when a MAN is parking next to me due to the air pumping. Still, they are really good in my opinion I would have a hard time to decide a winner between a TGX and a Streamline R type. I have 3 years as a driver only driven a Volvo FH500, Man TGX 480 and currently on a 2016 Scania R450 Streamline (the bulky bodies, not the last models) which seems to do more horsepower (or maybe better torque, dunno) 🤷 than even the Volvo, I mean full load and on the hills did the best of the 3. The Man was great too.
What about Iveco and DAF trucks? And do make further comparison with American trucks like Peterbilt, Kenworth, Mack and etc as well as Japanese trucks, Hino, Fuso, and UD trucks.
I own a VW Vento . Fascinated to see VW Group owns Skoda Audi Ducati Bentley & Porsche LAMBHORGINI that makes Greatest V8 and V12 petrols. Also in Bugatti they made most powerful petrol engine and now in Scannia they made most powerful commercial Diesel engine . Proud to have a VW car .
Mercedes Benz Trucks parent company is the Daimler Group which has (2021) joined forces with Volvo to help develop Hydrogen Fuel Cell technology and have agreed a deal to work in partnership to build their FCEV trucks.
Did you know that Volvo measures hp at the crank where the the hp is higher but Scania measures hp at the differential where the hp is lower so at the crank where the hp is higher scania makes over 800 hp
@@TruckTropia older times was v8 engined trucks in europe like iveco turbostar, and renaul magnum what had a mach e9 v8 engine. Man sometimes if is ordered has v8 and even v10 egine too but only is for special trucks. even v12. But in standard truck engine offer is only the uniqe is Scania.
I own a transport company and I have DAF, MAN, Volvo and Mercedes trucks and so far the most reliable one is MAN (a 2015 d26 480hp with more than a million km only needed regular service like oil changes and filters), with Volvo we've had DPF issues and some electrical anomalies, Mercedes had issues with the retarder(small metal fillings blocked the radiators)and my DAF had issues with the exhaust aftertreatment (also no one can figure why it uses lots of adblue). By far the most economical is our Mercedes (a 450hp unit) with DAF coming second and MAN and Volvo are quite similar here. In terms of cab comfort all my drivers love the DAF, it has a really well designed cab but Mercedes comes second with MAN being the most outdated. We haven't ran Iveco or Scania(we avoid Scania because it's way to expensive and doesn't make much economic sense, I prefer to better pay my drivers). For servicing I do have my own service station and all trucks get serviced yearly or at 100k km(depending on what comes first, we also have telemetry systems and some trucks would adjust their service intervals depending on how hard they have been working). None of them left drivers stranded so far
Trailers ?
Eveco it's similar to Renault not worth it . And i guess these two are the cheapest over all
This is good of you.
Mercedes a brand u can trust anytime.much love and respect from Africa Kenya ✌️♥️ trucker in 🌍 Africa
Salut,la ce ar trebui sa fiu atent prima cand cumpăr un camion?
Mă gândeam la un Volvo sau Man, fie EEV sau euro 6.
Scania v8 is a masterpiece of engineering
I think all 4 are tremendous Truck, Bus and Coach manufacturers and are a real credit to the European automotive industry.
You forgot the MAN D4276, a bigger-bore version of the D38 that has not been introduced in MAN’s trucks (yet). All MAN inline six diesels of recent decades have been designed for two displacements each - the D2866/76, D2066/2676, D1556/E1856 and most recently the D3876/4276.
MAN built the first Diesel engine named after the German who invented it? MAN built a V12 forget your V8 pussy engine? 🤣
Mercedes Benz
D4276 base on D38 .. diffrent only stroke and ECU system
I have worked on all kinds of engines over several decades and have to say the best engines I have ever come accross were made by Hanomag. Only one problem; they don't make them anymore but they are above all others.
Bollocks!🤣 The best engines are more complicated thus harder to work on?🤣
@thank you universe 888 man.
I have a hanomag 44d its soo fast and never needs Any fixing
@@jasonwarrior2325 yes. I have several hanomags here Inc 2 44d models. There will never be another shovel that good made again.
Why? examples please.
Mercedes - luxury / comfort
Scania - power / off road
Man - road mileage / general safe ball
Volvo - safety / durability
With the in-line six-cylinder Mercedes has already made a huge step forward, compared to the older V6 engines, but the MAN with D26 (almost 480hp) now consumes 6 liters less in a 4x4 semi and is also much quieter and better sprung than the Mercedes . The predecessor MAN with 500 hp was even better, but it also drank a lot fuel.
But my best truck was still the F2000. Simple, quiet, robust and powerful.
There gear boxes suck
F2000 it's a tank, not a truck. A living legend. Too bad there is no AdBlue system to add it in order to increase the pollution norm from E3 to E5 or E6.
Meh, hate of v6 is unfounded.
@@em4703architecture of an inline is much stronger.
Sweden vs Germany
Clash of the Titans
Sweden of course 💪🏼❤️❤️ Scania and Volvo are the best
@@Faris.05 How you prove you never driven a truck without saying it
Scania is owned by Volswagen so both Germany
@@khalidhamid7448Scania majority shareholders are the VW groups, but Scania owner is Sweden.
Scania v8engine is my best engine,above all others
New trucks should be good for around 500,000k miles. After their warranty expires, expect replacement of gearboxes, injectors, electronic boxes for the DEF system and much more. Nothing to do with my old truck that hasn't had an injector changed in the last 16 years or nearly 2 million kilometers. Good luck to the future generations of drivers! They will need it.
We've got euro 6 with more than 1 million km, and the most reliable one We've got it's a MAN D26 witch has only needed regular servicing, it's still on the original clutch dpf fuel pumps and turbo
@@Stef.Cata051 That's what I said 1million km are just over 500k miles. That's not very many kilometers for these engines. There are cars that drive 1 million kilometers. And 1 million kilometers should not be an advertisement for this type of engine. The automatic gearbox warranty on Volvo trucks is up to 750k miles. And 450k miles on the Volvo engine. It is normal for the truck to reach these miles in most cases.
The B50 rating on a lot of truck engines are still in the million mile range, but the manufacturers have been cheating. A lot of the items that had life expectancy ratings are now maintenance items.
I'm also seeing all the high power numbers and wondering what that is doing to engine life expectancy. Given the same configuration, build quality and displacement, a lower power spec engine that is adequate for the intended use will last longer than its higher output counterpart.
That being said, I would expect to be on original fuel pump, dpf and turbo at 1 million km/620,000 miles. A clutch should be good for well over that distance, but it is one of the items that has a lot of variables that affect lifespan.
Its the merc for me, seen V8 trucks transport up to 100+ tons to DRC, in a single route. Plus its the more common commercial truck in East Africa. Maintenance costs are reasonable too.
It's because you're not exposed to better. We can't afford higher end Scanias easily as we can afford mercedes.
That does not mean its the Best.
In Tanzania we have a lot of Scania, most of them second hand. Volvos and Mercedes are seen as luxury with only high end companies having them new.
@@sirmagger
East African mega companies love Mercedes
You sad everything my friend we have a company in DRC and we started with MAN and we had only problems...alot ot problems in a span of 1 year we lost 5 MAN of the 6! We decided to buy Mercedes Actros since 2017 and all of them are still working in DRC they have more than one million kM on the clock !
i am not gonna say that that is bether than this, but the gearboxes Volvo offers twin clutch non-synchronized transmissions that change faster than the boost pressure drops between gears, have seen 550's loaded to 50 ton chase down lighter loaded Scanias with similar engine performance in the hills, and in Norway we got nothing but up's and downs so that is a game changer from the older gearboxes where you had to drop 2 gears as you needed time to load boost again, these new ones drops half a gear and keeps going
I’ve heard from a lot of drivers that Volvo has the best transmission, but nothing can’t beat a V8 of a Scania
The transmission of Volvo truck is the best because it work with I SHIFT speed box you should make some research about the I SHIFT transmission to understand
@@rafikbenabdallah9825 I shift+ crawler gear is the craziest semi transmission I've seen, an uphill climbing monster
scania fan boi with no idea
@@Team_Reaper.All the above state their facts, you issue out a ridicule. Besides, we can't love the same thing. No reason calling someone a Scania fanboy. It's his choice to love Scania.
I have worked at both scania and Mercedes and I will honestly say the scania v8 has much more problems than the Mercedes, the only time I ever saw merc engines fail was when they were ran dry by drivers ignoring low oil level and pressure warning. I cannot say the same about about scania plus the Mercedes is a lot easier to work on. Scania have brought out a new 6 cylinder engine that looks a lot more like the Mercedes and man engine so time will tell if its any good.
❤❤corect. This video is 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve been a truck driver for the past 8 years and still rolling and I’ve heard stories about trucks and engines, confort and disconfort and for the most part, everyone said that Scania is the king of engines and technology but from my experience, for driving a MAN for the entire time going from first models Euro5 to the latest Euro 6 model now and different engine configurations and transmissions (all automatic MAN and Scania) I can say that MAN is a technical bullet proof machine. Even though they’re known for their sometimes electrical issues (which most brands have nowadays considering the mass digitalisation), on the mechanical part, they’re tanks and provide a very reasonable fuel efficiency no matter the engine spec chosen. I wish I would’ve driven other brands as well to provide info about them, but if I ever was going to recommend a brand to someone, MAN would be the one without even having second thoughts!
Mister Man is a Man fan!
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I am in North America and know all about north American trucks. I have been planning to move to the East (Russia and ex Soviet countries ). I am searching about European trucks,most videos compare driving comfortability not much the engines and drive train. Based on my research MAN (2002-2010 years ) would be the best option for my needs . I will be on a low budget owner operator to start my transport company. I will be mostly hauling fruits and vegetables from central Asian countries to Russia to sell them there . I have connections and networking I just need a good reliable truck
Each in its own way. In my opinion for T.I.R use, at least for European roads, the ideal would be a VOLVO truck with a DAF cabin and a SCANIA engine...
Save this man at any cost
Of course they are much more efficient and environmentally-friendly than their forerunners, but none of them can sound as magnificent as an OM442 or OM402 V8 Mercedes diesels, which were used in 70s, 80s and 90s.
I’ve driven all these makes apart from MAN,without a doubt Scania is the choice for me,reliability is the name of the game along with comfort and ease of driving. Volvo comes a very close second but just doesn’t have the fit and finish of the Scania and the engines are Not as powerful or as quite. Mercedes,I drove a six wheel concrete mixer with the Gutless V6 engine,good quality cab and chassis but that engine was pathetic but reliable just like a Gardner used to be.
Scania also supply a range of 6 cylinder engines up to 540hp (soon to be 560hp). Correct outcome. The 2 Swedish makes would come out on top in an international list of big trucks. Especially for fuel economy & driver comfort.
We've had them all, but Scania is a clear winner for our business. Volvo is great too, but has a higher fuel consumption. We sacked MB because of the poor economy and service. MAN wasn't as good as expected, but had a very smooth sound.
You can’t have performance without burning fuel ! Volvo 4 life!
Pretty soon the full BEV -Semi Trucks will enter not just Tesla Semi Truck but also Mercedes e-Casacadia, Man , Volvo, VoltaZero, Bollinger and others Nikola, BYD & other new chinese & korean brands will have first full electric Semi-Trucks ready for first customers in all major cities for local services & delivery trucks starting with :Tesla will have first orders for Pepsi (Elon did confirm it will start in December this year).. the rest will follow soon MAN has started to replace biggest European Airports old diesel trucks with full electric semi-trucks, Volvo same, e-Cascadia will be mostly used in US market along withNikola & Bollinger, BYD will support first Asian market then they will spread to other markets as well.. so yeah..
@@poplaurentiu4148 the problem with a long haul trucking is how much of the trucks weight is battery and how much is gonna be merchandise, sure small local trucking maybe, but for the long haul we are far of the tech to make it feesable yet
@@Stale_Mahoney Well for long haul we will see exactly how good Pepsi will do next years with the Tesla Semi trucks..
@@poplaurentiu4148 alright remember to tell me how that goes.
Fuso 6R10 (derived from Mercedes Benz OM471)
Fuso 6R20 (mutually developed w/ OM470)
UD GH11 & GE13 (Volvo technology)
I worked at Scania's production facility in Södertälje south of Stockholm for two years on the rear axle assembly line, the complex has the size of a town...
I have drove all these trucks but Volvo is outstanding 👌🏿 👏🏾 🙌🏿
We still used 1985 L series Benz in my country with full loaded in mountain 💪💪
In europe 90% of the heavy 40/44 t trucks are being used with engines in the 13 liter class, 15 or 16 liters are mainly for special operations or ooerators…
V8 Engine diferent all Engine. The Best of SCANİA VABIS V8
Renault T460 would be my choice. 380-490hp is enough for flat terrain of Greater Poland
It really isn't 🤣
Clearly the most underrated Chanel on RUclips
Thank you so much
Agree on that. Driveability is also the best in Scania and Volvo. Mercedes and MAN have a more "spongy" feeling!
Fell in love with Scania On Euro Truck Simulator 2
Bro, nostalgia!😭
I play Iveco and haul 60 tons. No joke 🤣
@@destroyerarmor2846 pffff 😂 maad
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Depending on tons of factors, the answer always an be different. In my opinion the truck and engine that lasts the longest time will be the one, that its driver loves the most. If the driver and owner of the company both are interested in the needs of their truck(s), the lifespan will expand on most trucks. So know your equipment and if possible love it and treat it like its your own!
I've driven the Mercedes actros L but I never thought much to the actual pulling power out on the road when I was hauling a trailer full of potatoes. It seems to take some time to get moving off the mark when fully loaded and that's in all types of power modes so maybe it could be the gear box or computers that confuse it hence the delay in reaction time in setting off. I must admit the interior of the Mercedes is very nice and it has plenty of toys and gadgets to play with and they've kept the dashboard tidy by having everything on the touchscreen with just a few selected buttons still on the dashboard just for quicker operation which was a nice touch but the camera instead of mirrors take some getting used to especially when reversing onto a bay with direct sunlight as it creates a bit of a shadow effect but I'm sure Mercedes will correct this. If I had to choose one I would go with the volvo for the power as so far this is the best one I've driven but I've yet to try the MAN and scania so I look forward to it 😁
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We think the SCANIA V-8 engine is world,s best. We in the Netherland,s travellercheques, from the port of Rotterdam and Amsterdam to destinations in Asia, Africa, Arabia, Russia and so on. No problems in the desserts and in polar conditions. We think world,s best ! Kind regards. 👌🇳🇱👍🍷👋
The number of service locations is filled in wrong in the table at the end, Volvo and Mercedes are confused.
So Mercedes wins with 22 points, then comes Scania with 21, Volvo with 19 and MAN with 16.
But, as You can see in the comments below, there are further aspects, which worth to consider, such as price, running costs and reliability.
It would be interesting to see a more precise comparison with more aspects and with more brands (DAF, Iveco, Renault).
Lmao MB bs. Volvo is much better. Very few brain less use MB for no reason
V8 is the legend
Sound and engine looks probably aren’t too relevant in a truck as they are in a car, but the Scania V8 looks great and sounds even better than the other manufacturers I6’s
I run a truck body shop, i get to talk to MAN and Mercedes drivers. Seams like people do like Mercedes more specially there latest CNG engine since its way cheaper compared to scania and iveco. Maybe its due to where i live but 80% of older trucks running arround are Mercedes, those old Actros MP1s all over as well as the first and 2nd gen Ategos. They say mercedes has the best fuel economy and chepest service cost. Also from my standpoint mercedes is the most simpler to repair or remove the parts from
MAN is a value for money product and very reliable.
They're true workhorses
Depends on the gearbox been driving a 68plate Volvo 460hp with 800+k km and now stuck in a 71plate Merc 2545 with only 130k give me Volvo better gearbox, and the level of comfort Volvo
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volvo and comfort in the same sentence LOOL ... bruh....
68 plate means that the gentleman is from the UK and the 68 means that the vehicle was registered for road use between September 2018 and March 2019.
As a ETS2 player I totally agree, Scania and Volvo is the best, even for heavy haul
I drive pre emissions CAT 3406, MPG is a little bit worse than newer engines but no DEF no EGR no DPF no problems 🙂
i hear ya brother!
Scania for engine sound, MAN for military because of ground clearance, Mercedes (old engines) in the Unimog to use has a all terrain motorhome, Volvo for driving safe and if you aren't a really good driver.
And always manual transmission for off-road, for that I would go with the Unimog.
Volvo for safe? Volvo makes a truck for every type of work all the way from racing to military. Everything in between.
Exactly WHY "always manual transmission for off-road"...?????
We're in 2022 now, not 1992
man also has a great sound, and what do you mean ground clearance? wtf are you looking at🤣 why are you comparing all these trucks for different things, all trucks have a good sound, man v8 euro 5 has the best sound imo, and man tga open pipe scania is just unique for its v8 sound, but man sounds better, anyways scania also has good clearance for example scania xt
@@stigandrmyrardalur5208 because even with all these new things, if you break a transmission it's easier to fix.
@@Europets2 I'm talking about what we had in the army, we have Mercedes and MAN, MAN are the ones that are higher.
Being a truckmechanic and have done several services on volvos,mercedes,scanias and MAN. i prefere MAN, just for the easy service and easy to change parts, volvo is easy too.
Have you repaired d38?
Mercedes Benz Diesel Engine, LONG LIFE THE KING
Personally, I don't care about trucks. I will neither buy or drive one. But I've talked to several people that worked in one of the MAN factorys, and for Scania. Compared to the Scania-production/factory, MAN isn't that careful with the components as they are at Scania. So when the MAN-workers visited Scania to learn to assemble the rear axle and gearboxes they started to assemble the parts with hits on sensitive spots with hammers, as they do in the MAN-factory. And everytime MAN sending their part to Scania for a co-op assemble, their components always came in a random and uncareful way of packing, and the parts were always dirty as f*ck. What I want to say is that Scania has a higher standard and finnish on their products. From the handling of the smallest parts to the complete truck. -It's a different mindset.
As a driver Volvo's are the best truck's that I've driven and I have made them work hard for me.
It was like i expected tbh. Volvo and Scania are by far the most reliable too. Interesting video!
I would say Volvo. Volvo has a long reputation for reliable and safe trucks, that too they also specialise in construction equipment!
Scania engines are good too, the V8 is a celebrity in the truck world, EVERYONE loves the Scania V8 for its sound, and modification possibilities!
But I feel like Volvo trucks look good, they never age.
Scania trucks look great when brand new, but after 6-10 years, they show their age (but still reliable)
Thanks for sharing 👍
Scania's V8 engine is the best. I'm a big obsession to the video game Euro Truck Simulator 2.
VOLVO & SCANIA;the best in the world 🌍;they are just,AMAZING😎‼️
So from my experience, even if I haven't driven any brand in operation, but worked with Mercedes Engines (V6 of the MP2/MP3s and the new I6s) and just have to say, that in terms of reliability the MB Engines are pretty much bullet proof.
I also have some buddies working with or driving MAN and Scania. The company which has a couple Scania Trucks has much more problems with them as I had with the MB. Nearly once a week 1 of their I think 5 Scania (old Gen) has a broken NOX-Sensor.
The MAN guys report, that they had a couple of problems with the Gearboxes of the trucks.
And I also heared that DAF has big problems with the injectors.
But all in all I think today you can buy any truck brand and don't buy the wrong one. Every brand has its advantages and disadvantages but there are no "bad trucks" being produced in modern times.
Nevertheless I swear on MB (engines) even if they often are called "retiree" because of the slow shifting gearbox. ;)
Scania is of course the best engine. The V8 is more compact, however an inline 6 might be easier to service.
mb, iveco, man also had v8 bro, and volvo can make same specs of the v8 with their i6 so it DOESNT MATTER ... its just a fancy marketing for scania, nothing more
@@johnnyhun1 With connecting roods looking through the block. Egr and scr + double turbo and big fuel consumption. while the Scania v8 makes due with just scr and much cleaner burn and better fuel consumption. It aint without reason volvo is sued by the mining industry for not delivering
I’ve drove MAN 7 Tonner before during my military, it’s cabin is very small comfortable and quiet95% to drive! 🙂🚚
Scania and MAN are now using the same engine and gear box, volvo owns Renault trucks so there is only actually a couple to choose from.
All the engines are great
They all are great, some are better than others.
Volvo is my favorite and more in bus chassis
Scania
much respect from Zambia
As someone who does a LOT of miles on UK motorways (in a van) I see a lot more Volvo trucks than any others. Renault is up there too though.
I am currently in a Volvo FH 500 had the privilege to drive the FM LNG and can say that both are unchallenged in pull power but as a driver of many other trucks find this list short of one manufacturer “DAF” - I am looking forward to getting the XG 530 as a XF 530 106 fan, I will also be trial testing electric trucks from Volvo & MAN when we receive demos’ in 2023
In my country indonesia MAN is the best..so powerfull for mountain terrain
Define powerful! How many hp? 440, 460, 480, etc
440 hp
The question is which engine's will still be operating in 5-10 year's with minimal downtime and issues 👍🏾
I would say that is Scania
@@nerminkovcic8465 I agree 💯
I would say Scania.
Scania for sure
Volvo is best
Volvo, Scania and MB are on another level 💪
For me Volvo is better with engine 13 L 460hp and 2800 NM or 500hp. Volvo does not need much maintenance and lives a large virtual life and meets all the requirements even in terms of comfort in the cabin is very convenient ، Even the man truck is great and a little cheaper than the Volvo and Scania truck, it's especially in the hard business category the best option man tgs 33.480
Volvo engine is my favorite of all time
Scania, King of the road
Volvo fh16 750
A beast of an engine 👌🏻
says a euro truck simulator 2 driver hahahaha
MAN V8 is Beautiful Engine
Volvo & MAN Real Best Power
Couldnt agree more
This is a workplace! Imagine an office where only muffled noises can be heard. Imagine an office where powerful sound comes from all devices. What I want to say, the sound, the music, the concert, what a Scania delivers is a performance, theatre, stage performance all in one. No question it MUST be a Scania.
But Scania don't make economic sense if that is all it has to offer over the other brands. Reliability, serviceability, fuel economy, uptime, are bigger factors than "sounds and theatre".
@@sepg5084 What would you have answered if I had named a different brand? Because as a driver you don't think about supposed things. The Scanias I drove were all great. OK years ago my shifter broke off :-) (Oldy) But nothing else. I am/was a careful driver. Scanias were rather inconspicuous in the points mentioned. What's your opinion? (value free)
@@sepg5084 Scania is also the most reliable 🤦
Ralf Weidmann: Scania has no good sound , there are the noisiest engines around together with Mercedes and Volvo . But it seems you like to get your ears destroyed by those engines.
1 Scania. 2 Volvo. 3 Man and Mercedes together. That's my opinion as mechanic. For maintenance costs Mercedes today is the highest, maybe Scania and volvo parts are very expensive, but trust me you will be changing only oil filters and brake pads for 150000 miles before any mechanical issues, when Man and Merc start breaking something always around 60000 miles. Also I have to admit M-B and Man are pushing a lot experimental new parts and systems on commercial vehicles, every year a single model can be built with multiple mechanical/electrical/ pneumatic modifications plus various recalls and controls units software upgrades. So, the race for the podium is still on..
The Swedes rock!
The 450 hp scania DC13 at work manages 30L/100km driving both 100km city and around 400km highway every 24 hours :)
Same as my 520 V8 then, 30,06 and going 1100km every 24/h
Had an 450 which didn't go below 36 though...
@@haploj123eriksson8brother is the r520 reliable . The euro 6 uses both scr and egr. I have problem with egr engines. Is it good?
Fun fact, that Scania DC7 engine is actually a Cummins ISB 6.7L Euro6. We have Scania buses here in Helsinki (Finland) with these DC7 engine they are nice to drive and move fast :) Scania DC7 280HP to be exact.
D38 is the most powerful MAN truck engine in production. But, it is not MAN's most powerful truck engine of all time, that would be D2868, the 680hp 16.4L V8 for the 1st gen TGX (and RMMV HX81 tank transporter).
I believe it is still in use today as a Marine engine.
@@MikeWooshy Yes it is. But no longer in TGX😢
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Scania all the way.........and I can't get one here in the States. That V8 will handle anything
I would prefer a Volvo or Man
Simple design, less technology less issues
Less downtime
Operators always choose wich total package is best.
When it comes to certain markets generally each manufacturers excels in one.
MB is very good in heavy vehicels who work in urban areas like f.e. garbage trucks, public transport city busses.
Scania for long heavy and convoi exeptionel cargo hauling
MAN for 6x6 and 8x8 constructionsite dumptrucks.
Volvo mostly for ergonomic and safety long haul cargo trucks and coaches
A good local dealer also is important wich truckbrand is bought by the operator.
Those trucks cost alot of money, equiped with aditional machinery even an insane amount of money!
I saw for 2 weeks a brandnew MAN 8x8 converted to a sewer clean/ pipeline inspection vehicle deliverd lately at a pricetag of €600.000 !
The entire package was a technical marvel to behold
Unbelievable you didn’t mention DAF the number one in Europe
Ongelofelijk dat je DAF niet noemt de nummer één trekker bouwer in Europa.
De nieuw XG is zijn tijd ver vooruit en dat zal DAF nog wel even blijven.
@@1955piet pacar werd niet genoemd in deze video
I just got a MAN 6x4 sewer truck
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Yeah, that's why in Indonesia, it's easier to spot Mercedes-Benz bus compared to Scania
Heck, even most of Indonesian biggest Bus Rapid Transit (TransJakarta) fleets are Mercedes-Benz (if we also include Fuso Canter based bus), and Scania only comes in 2nd place (3rd place: Toyota/Hino, 4th Isuzu, 5th Volvo, and 6th are Chinese bus from the middle of nowhere)
Scania V8......obviously!!!!
Scania
it is undeniable that the most formidable and popular trucks are scania and volvo
I Always had Volvo and Scania so there are similar in many ways and both Amazing as a matter of comfort i say Volvo :)
The way MAN pumps air when low sounds like some 1940 PANZER 🤣
The others are smoother doing it, I always know when a MAN is parking next to me due to the air pumping. Still, they are really good in my opinion I would have a hard time to decide a winner between a TGX and a Streamline R type.
I have 3 years as a driver only driven a Volvo FH500, Man TGX 480 and currently on a 2016 Scania R450 Streamline (the bulky bodies, not the last models) which seems to do more horsepower (or maybe better torque, dunno) 🤷 than even the Volvo, I mean full load and on the hills did the best of the 3. The Man was great too.
MAN manufactured Panther tanks lol
Nice analysis
Scania and Volvo is nr 1 … it is from sweden real power 💪💪💪💪🇸🇪
in terms of reliability I would say volvo and man... not hating but scania been exaggerated a lil too much
Scania always! Great video btw, congrats.
Thanks 👍
When you realise that the engine alone weighs more than the average car.
Mercedes Benz Om 73..its my best truck
And The best is Volvo D13
SCANIA, VOLVO
Companies aren't really trying to make engines as good as possible. They are trying to maximize profits.
What about Iveco and DAF trucks? And do make further comparison with American trucks like Peterbilt, Kenworth, Mack and etc as well as Japanese trucks, Hino, Fuso, and UD trucks.
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@@TruckTropia Awesome. Will look forward to it
Iveco Power :D
Peterbilt, Kenworth both manufactured by the same company and DAF have the same engine mx13 by PACCAR
Volvo. D12 and D13 are beats and good for a million miles if you service them. Torque curve is amazing.
He read the marketing material - excellent.
Happy you liked it
I own a VW Vento . Fascinated to see VW Group owns Skoda Audi Ducati Bentley & Porsche LAMBHORGINI that makes Greatest V8 and V12 petrols. Also in Bugatti they made most powerful petrol engine and now in Scannia they made most powerful commercial Diesel engine . Proud to have a VW car .
Mercedes Benz Trucks parent company is the Daimler Group which has (2021) joined forces with Volvo to help develop Hydrogen Fuel Cell technology and have agreed a deal to work in partnership to build their FCEV trucks.
Scania V8 Symphony...music
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Did you know that Volvo measures hp at the crank where the the hp is higher but Scania measures hp at the differential where the hp is lower so at the crank where the hp is higher scania makes over 800 hp
Scania and the rest of the world
I think Mercedes-Benz one is very good due to low fuel consumption,light weight and good horsepower
In v engines the Scania the best. Power on the road.
Scania is the only V8 Truck engine on the market ;)
@@TruckTropia what about the v8 in man tgx euro 5?
@@TruckTropia older times was v8 engined trucks in europe like iveco turbostar, and renaul magnum what had a mach e9 v8 engine. Man sometimes if is ordered has v8 and even v10 egine too but only is for special trucks. even v12. But in standard truck engine offer is only the uniqe is Scania.