For playing looking for extra damage, socketing Amanamu's Gaze into your Darkness Enthroned or having two copies does effectively nothing. It's a hard global cap at 30%.
Thank you very much Balor and Lupus for this FAQ, I've been going thru pages of necros on poeninja trying to figure stuff out. Again, much appreciated!
Bro I'm here just to say thank you! Your Holy Relic build absolutely carried my ass through the campaign, and I even soloed all panicle bosses on day 3 deathless (not uber variants tho). It gotta be the best league starter I've played in years!
This is extremely helpful! I've already got it in a decent spot, but I'll definitely be referring to this and have already sent it to someone who needed more help with the build. Thank you!
Notable option for a cheap and great shield: Svalinn, Girded Tower Shield Lucky block, and the option to socket Molten Shell into it. Grab two block masteries for +max block and I now sit at 91% effective block (no glancing, no mistress of sacrifice) and I feel near immortal going into mid red tier maps.
no mistress of sacrifice/bone offering? hmmm, how is it possible? calculating rn and can't get 91% effective attack block UPD: mwn, figured it out. circles Safeguard, Sanctuary, Wall of Steel, As the Mountain + masteries from these circles. 91% attack block and 91% (+13% overcap) spell block.
@@ZenOnYch I have around 71 block at base. The shield drops our new block cap to 65%, but makes it lucky (aka. 87% effective block). Block comes from tree + tempest shield. The nodes around Blood Magic have very good block. Now we take both max block masteries and two nodes that give max block. Now our new cap is 70% block (aka. 91%). Formula: 1-(1-block)^2 => 1-(1-0.7)^2 = 1-(0.3)^2 = 1-0.09 = 0.91
@@ZenOnYchSo the spell block roll on Svalinn does not matter, since you will be overcapping even with 10%, if you are grabbing all those wheels. I don't see that grabbing wall of Steel is necessary.
@@ermeack right, you're overcapping spell block, but Wall of Steel gives attack block, not spell block. And chance to block attacks drops significantly without Wall of Steel. Another moment here: you still need block mastery from from Wall of Steel if you want 91% block instead of 90%
I would add a Hunter Influenced Rare helmet with Nearby allies have -9% Chaos resistance to the AG options. You can get a bunch of Chaos Res on the helmet, making Bob much tankier too
Thank you for this run down; am totally new to minion builds this league; had no idea bout animate guardian and how it works looool. Fixing that issue just made the feel even better. Keep up the great work man; very informative videos.
Thanks for the guide! New player here, had alot of problems learning and figuring out all the things, gems, what u mean with AG in POB everithing, but now i finished my campaing and im doing some Maps. Funny note: i leveled and wasted all chaos in AG POB gear while leveling in campain for myself 😅😅 Liked and subscribed!
got lucky on a divine drop in a6 HC last night, spent today putting this together. I don't have trigger on cast yet but just about everything else with a throwaway shield and dendrobate for psn chance. Shits cleaning up my campaign run. Not that SRS wasn't already doing that, but this holy relic build feels so much smoother.
Love the guide. Played SHR in 2.24 and was looking for a way to push it further. Before I got Lancing Steel (45 chaos), I was using Kinetic Bolt + Volley as a trigger for SHR. KB spits out a heap of projectiles. This actually worked really well from Level 4 through white maps. KB can also be used with a minion wand for some decent extra +Minion Dmg (inc. Kingsmarch runecraft). Is there some technical reason to prefer LS over KB (or maybe some other attacks)? No-one on POE Ninja seems to use any thing else.
Not rares, but perhaps Skin of the Lords with colors that match your needs since you can't recolor those... or a corrupted Tabula with +1 socketed gems or some other useful implicit?
Lil bit of secret sauce for folks struggling with the cost of spectres: 1. Swap Perfect Forest Tiger for Perfect Guardian Turtle. It gives determ, then wear haste yourself. Perfect Guardian Turtle is 20c.
@@djimpansee4169 Having convocation on a trigger wand solves that problem. You don't need it to deal damage or even stand in any particular location, just exist.
PSA - replacing spectres in King's March does not drop the corpses as it should - they are deleted. Just found this out the hard way. RIP my perfect warlord.
@@kyrialmeijin1482 u should be taking resolute technique on the talent tree which makes monster not be able to evade ur attacks, so your accuracy doesnt matter. And im almost certain the holy relic skill is a spell so they dont need accuracy
I feel like Spectral Wolves on Kill enchant might be good. Minion Poisons are attributed to the player, so anything that dies to a DoT should summon one and they give 3-6 flat phys damage per wolf which gets converted to chaos, plus each wolf is a minion on its own that gets all flat damage and chance to poison.
> Each spectral wolf grants you a buff that adds damage to your attacks. It is worded like Raise Spiders from Arakaalis, whos buff also only applies to the wearer of the item; the player in this case. Or is it different here?
Do we need minion accuracy for relics? Are relics scaling with minion attack/cast speed or it's useless stat for them? What's most important stats to scale damage, cdr/minon damage/+ phydical dmg/+chaos dmg etc.?
Relics dont care about attack/cast speed, as they activate when you attack. Flat Phys/Chaos can scale hit, CDR via quality is the biggest form of scaling, and is gone over in this video.
@@Amardarial Then why in guide in end game tree there are two jewels with +136 accuracy rating and one with minion attack/cast speed? For spectres and animated guardian? There is also minions increased attack/cast speed on large cluster jewel. I am confused about those. As I see it I should only look for life, phys damage, chaos damage, poison chance if not 100% on jewels and maybe some gimmick like hinder/blind or res?
The attack and cast speed affects us. It's not needed it just make it feel way smoother the more attack speed we have. The accuracy is on some jewels because it just was when I got them. It does nothing as holy relics don't need accuracy those were just the jewels I had at the time.
Hi, thanks so much for taking the time to compile the FAQ and for creating this awesome build :) I have a question reg. Ashes version - in your PoB, Holy Relic is on 20% quality socketed in a red socket and Ashes is 30% - which brings Holy Relic to 50% quality (not reaching the 52% breakpoint). I can't figure out where the remaining reduction is coming from. Your boots have 5% CDR but I thought this doesn't apply to minions?
Thanks for the clear up for spectures, even i am playing the Poison SRS. so i know i can keep my pale and arenamaster untill i get the better corpes. If possible add that to the Writen SRS on PoE-vault aswell.
Hey Balormage, thx for a great guide. Question I havent been able to answer here or in the PoB: Why do we need the trigger craft on the sword to start using relics? It doesnt say anywhere, what you put in the sword when you start, altho i can see later you use desecrate and offering, so assuming thats what I need to put in when i start. But offering is just more block, so not sure, why its mandatory to begin using the skills.
@BalorMage Do you need minion attack speed large cluster with 35% increased effect which are the expensive ones if attack speed does nothing for the minions and only really makes the build feel snappier?
A question I do have is about the Explodes from the Gloves - Is it worth taking the 2 points extra on the Passive Tree to get Spiritual Aid so all Minion Damage nodes also affects you which in turn affects and scales the Explosions from the gloves? It's a 2 point investment and skyrocketing the explosion damage, I just want to know if it's even needed - looks like would be insane for stacked enemies like in Blight or Harvest.
So, if I have garb of ephermal on my AG then what major pantheon should I use? Brine kings seems like a waste since I cannot be slowed thanks to this chest
Possibly stupid question, but... once I get a timeless jewel that gives access to Supreme Ostentation, is there a reason not to use tattoos on all possible small passives? Because int, dex and strength do absolutely nothing at that point, right? Or is there a reason we need primary stats that I'm not aware of?
Is PoB still bugged for calculating damage? Based on your first video (5m dps is about 30m), would it be correct to put "Minions deal 500% more damage" in the custom modifiers to get our true dps number, or is the conversion more complex than that?
Honestly it seems to get further and further off the more + levels you get. I don't think any modification we added would be true for all builds or at all stages. I've made the whole build based off how it feels ingame tbh.
why are you not using asenths? i got the profane bloom forbiden jewels do i need them for clear or are people just using them for the temp chain curse?
LF advice: i have pale seraph/perfect forest warrior/arena master, i'm thinking of buying the perfect hulking and perfect warlord who shoiuld i replace to put those in ?
i'm loving the build its been the smoothest league start :) i'm at t17 but i have a question : i have a jewel minion deal more damage if you have used a minion skill recently , does it work or should i replace it with the jewel +2 mana on hit ?
You technically NOT using minion skill recently (trigger-is not YOU) So - it`s not working. Mana will be way better, or use convocation manually (but socket pressure will rise)
Loving the build so far... still missing a lot of pieces, and I'm def. still pretty weak. Aegis is a hell of a drug tho and it seems to carry the defenses in any build it's in... I'm able to handle unending nightmare in T16's and I was able to complete a blight ravaged map with only one death thanks to it being PowerPoint 2024 >.
Sorry if that has been answered already but I struggle to find a way to get my timeless jewel to make me a Supreme Ostentation node, I have two jewels, one being 159,240 and the other being 105,420, which should be inside the range to commemorate the correct guy, but I somehow fail to get the node and get Supreme Grandstanding instead.
Never mind, I thought the number has to be in a range of values which determines the guy it honours, but it just mentions the name of the guy it honours on the jewel. Thanks global chat, I should never have been scared to ask there.
Is there a way to clear my spectre pool please ? I have several large spectre's in my current pool from when i leveled up, and its hard to find the corpse i currently use with the large one's covering them :P
Can you update with new jewel requirements in pobb, please? I'm always confused when you talk about some of them that I didn't use before and don't know which one to replace. Thank you
We don't get whole +10% phys reduction from bone barrier, right? 3 relics +3-4 spectres +1 guradian. I also run chaos golem so I will get 8-9% phys from bone barrier eventually but not full ammount. Is there any way to up this to full 10% with some temporary minions or maybe run zombies and ditch meat shield or minion life (worried this will kill my ag)?
My holy relic minion keeps dying to AOEs in end game (especially rituals and the league mechanic monsters in juiced T16 maps), but I don't see any minion survivability investments in almost all players for this build. Anyone having the same problems?
@@Ildriss I see. I have everything else except the anoint, I'll try the anoint. I've been thinking of taking this cluster (because it's the closest minion survivability cluster to the main tree), but I haven't seen anyone else does this.
Right now ritual is brutal especially with the green balls that freeze and like 20 of them chase you down. I am playing this build as well, once you get levels (empower) this will help with minion life, also as you get more damage you will get more minion life as you will kill them before they kill your minions
@@Ildriss The block node didn't help much, the relic were still dying. But, after I added a Perfect Warlord (which grants Vitality and Endurance Charges) as my 3rd spectre, it was super effective.
I have a problem with this build: i keep dying in T6 maps. And in delve, in the azurite mine, in areas that are only level 79, i almost instant die each time i meet Orra Greengate. I think the damage she makes is the most precisely the one that kills me. With determination i have 7000 armor. All my resistances (fire, lightning, cold) are caped, with fire at 76, and my chaos resistance is also caped to 75%. For now, i have 4025 life point. I'm level 89. Did 3 labs, did not do the last lab yet. I have a 6 link Dialla's Malefaction. Geofri helm + Asenath gloves. What i don't understand, is that in affliction and necropolis leagues, i played SRS, with very similar builds and stats, and i was never dying even in T15 maps. Also, i could go 5 times deeper in the azurite mine without dying (like depth 270 without dying). I even made hardcore SRS characters on these leagues and it was fine. now i have 135 dext and i don't have the unique jewel, but i'm already doing more than enough damage with these holly relics. It's just that i die all the time, even at low level maps. the attack speed of my sword is 1.55.
I'm deep into holy relic right now and really like it, the only thing i dont like is, that it doesnt feel that tanky. Guess i will have to check your min max to get tankier, even in 8-mod t16 maps. PSRS felt tankier as much as i can remember
Heyo, maybe im missing something. So sry if its a stupid question. Maybe someone in the comments can help aswell. But i feel like my spectres and ag are kind of vulnerable to dot/chaos damage. Is there any easy way to add survivabilty? Edit: also thanks alot for the guide and faq!
what do you think about perfect judgment spirit since the perfect hulking seems not the best , also she cast chaos offering and she gives discpline ? well my setup for end game spectre is weird but give me ur comment .. i use perfect warlord and perfect tiger and perfect judgment spirit and perfect forest warrior
Hi, I am using the Chance to poison support and some Jewels with poison chance in my tree (no Darkness Enthroned yet). No matter what I do, my relics show only 40% chance to poison. I have tried to import my build into PoB with the same result showing. The only thing that changes is when I remove the poison support gem. Then the whole chance to poison disappears. The jewels seem to have no effect. What I am doing wrong?
In POB, calc page, select hroc and tick minion stats then look below for poison chance and click it. It should show a breakdown of all your poison sources.
@@greatvalue1337 I use shield charge and it procs the relics. Not total automation, but feels better sometimes on easy maps that you can zoom through without stopping to attack with splitting steel.
Doesn't putting rise spectre in dialla, removing minion damage or added chaos damage, give us more benefit? We can get rise spectre that way to lvl 29=21 (corrupted gem)+1(from ashes)+2 (dialla)+5 (lvl 6 empower) or even 30 with awakened minion damage support. Hulking Miscreation for 100% more damage to relics and all 4 spectres get buffed and are harder to kill.
You are confusing the buff. Hulking Miscreation buff states: Buffs nearby Constructs with 100% increased Damage and 30% Attack and Cast Speed. It's generic INCREASED not MORE.
can someone enlight me on how replica dragonfang influence the holic relics since it gives levels and we need quality? also, what determine the quality milestones for CDR? cheers
Poor dude is an ACTUAL victim of the system designed to feminize males and masculinize whamens. Probably taking pharma meds, has tons of micro plastics and junk food chemicals in him, and had a therapist (whamens) telling him to chop it off for years.
Hey Balor, I am a big fan of your builds, your pSRS build is the first one that got me to level 100. I really wanna play this holy relic build. I have one question, can this build do t17s? not just the map mob but bosses as well? and how much currency do one need to invest in this build to make it a t17 farmer? TIA
I've already ran some this season. Look at my toon right now. It's capable but not super smooth. If I fix the quality on my gem. And get an amulet. I think we are good to farm away.
hey Balor. Love this build since last league when i tried it. Do you think it is CI viable with a MB and adorned jewel? I did a melding,MB, adorned last league and it was really tanky but did not find an optimal way to do CI without loosing quite a bit of DPS. Keep up the good work and +1 to subscribe :D
My problem with the spectres is, my perfect pain artist is always dying even if I buy higher ilvl ones, so I want to level up my raise spectre but the build doesn't reallyyy allow much room for int and in the pob from the last video, balor also has a lvl 20 raise spectre but is missing 40~ int to be able to support it so, I don't really understand. In a constant loop of having to rebuy my pain artist and its painful to say the least.
Balor has a Supreme Ostentation keystone allocated (through the timeless jewel). Supreme Ostentation, at the cost of not getting any inherent bonuses from attributes, eliminates all attribute requirements.
@@Merlin1908 I SEEEEEEEEEE, for some reason I thought this was only limited to armor. That's kinda crazy. Alright well time to farm for a timeless jewel. Thanks for explaining it so clearly too.
Thanks for the infos, but what I don't get is, how does someone get 52 or 82% quality for the breakpoints? Dialla and gem quality only go together to 50% Is there something a new poe player doesnt see?
Tried swapping to a scuffed setup in act 9 (have all 4 required pieces, minus trigger craft). I must be doing something wrong because it takes 30+ seconds to kill a rare.
@@Infestedhobo1 I swapped from SRS in about Act 7/8 and it was very painful until the gems started leveling up. I don't have the lancing transfigured gem yet but running piercing instead of poison is helping.
Should I go with Necromancer or Guardian? I did go with guardian due to Sentinel makes my life easier but I can swap to necromancer my lvl still too low.
I used Tattoo of the Kitava Rebel x10 and am now bleed immune. I also used Tattoo of the Kitava Blood Drinker x6 that say .5% of attack damage is leeched as life I'm at 3% so you just gain more free life from hits. I'm still working on what to use for my int nodes on tree which are very few.
Plus I already did like 12 different places when I started this build the first time. It's gone threw like 15 alterations and now has 4 different end game variants that I've worked hard AF on. Tjay is where the idea came from to start with from me. But he wasn't even the first person to make it either, that was some Korean guy on poeninja with no video. The idea of build ownership is stupid I'm just doing my best to improve it, and help as many people as I can to enjoy it.
For playing looking for extra damage, socketing Amanamu's Gaze into your Darkness Enthroned or having two copies does effectively nothing. It's a hard global cap at 30%.
Thank you very much Balor and Lupus for this FAQ, I've been going thru pages of necros on poeninja trying to figure stuff out. Again, much appreciated!
You're welcome! :)
Bro I'm here just to say thank you! Your Holy Relic build absolutely carried my ass through the campaign, and I even soloed all panicle bosses on day 3 deathless (not uber variants tho). It gotta be the best league starter I've played in years!
This is extremely helpful! I've already got it in a decent spot, but I'll definitely be referring to this and have already sent it to someone who needed more help with the build. Thank you!
Notable option for a cheap and great shield:
Svalinn, Girded Tower Shield
Lucky block, and the option to socket Molten Shell into it.
Grab two block masteries for +max block and I now sit at 91% effective block (no glancing, no mistress of sacrifice) and I feel near immortal going into mid red tier maps.
no mistress of sacrifice/bone offering? hmmm, how is it possible? calculating rn and can't get 91% effective attack block
UPD: mwn, figured it out. circles Safeguard, Sanctuary, Wall of Steel, As the Mountain + masteries from these circles. 91% attack block and 91% (+13% overcap) spell block.
@@ZenOnYch I have around 71 block at base.
The shield drops our new block cap to 65%, but makes it lucky (aka. 87% effective block). Block comes from tree + tempest shield. The nodes around Blood Magic have very good block.
Now we take both max block masteries and two nodes that give max block. Now our new cap is 70% block (aka. 91%).
Formula: 1-(1-block)^2
=> 1-(1-0.7)^2 = 1-(0.3)^2 = 1-0.09 = 0.91
@@ZenOnYchSo the spell block roll on Svalinn does not matter, since you will be overcapping even with 10%, if you are grabbing all those wheels. I don't see that grabbing wall of Steel is necessary.
@@ermeack right, you're overcapping spell block, but Wall of Steel gives attack block, not spell block. And chance to block attacks drops significantly without Wall of Steel.
Another moment here: you still need block mastery from from Wall of Steel if you want 91% block instead of 90%
FYI if you like shield charge snag a fractured siege axe w/attack speed and roll fear essences for the minion damage ..works great
I would add a Hunter Influenced Rare helmet with Nearby allies have -9% Chaos resistance to the AG options. You can get a bunch of Chaos Res on the helmet, making Bob much tankier too
Yooo. That's not a bad idea tbh.
Thank you for this run down; am totally new to minion builds this league; had no idea bout animate guardian and how it works looool. Fixing that issue just made the feel even better. Keep up the great work man; very informative videos.
Thanks for the guide! New player here, had alot of problems learning and figuring out all the things, gems, what u mean with AG in POB everithing, but now i finished my campaing and im doing some Maps.
Funny note: i leveled and wasted all chaos in AG POB gear while leveling in campain for myself 😅😅
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Beautiful work. I'm running regular chaos SRS until i get all the gear for the proper Holy Relic setup. Working nicely.
got lucky on a divine drop in a6 HC last night, spent today putting this together. I don't have trigger on cast yet but just about everything else with a throwaway shield and dendrobate for psn chance. Shits cleaning up my campaign run. Not that SRS wasn't already doing that, but this holy relic build feels so much smoother.
Love the guide. Played SHR in 2.24 and was looking for a way to push it further.
Before I got Lancing Steel (45 chaos), I was using Kinetic Bolt + Volley as a trigger for SHR. KB spits out a heap of projectiles. This actually worked really well from Level 4 through white maps. KB can also be used with a minion wand for some decent extra +Minion Dmg (inc. Kingsmarch runecraft).
Is there some technical reason to prefer LS over KB (or maybe some other attacks)? No-one on POE Ninja seems to use any thing else.
What attributes should I look for on a rare chest armour as Dialla is 4 divine and can't afford it anytime soon
Not rares, but perhaps Skin of the Lords with colors that match your needs since you can't recolor those... or a corrupted Tabula with +1 socketed gems or some other useful implicit?
Just grab crap corrupted 6-link. Anyway you will replase it with Dialla`s later, and dialla isn`t providing res or attributes
@@_Da1v3r true, I got a tabula rasa for now.
Lil bit of secret sauce for folks struggling with the cost of spectres:
1. Swap Perfect Forest Tiger for Perfect Guardian Turtle. It gives determ, then wear haste yourself. Perfect Guardian Turtle is 20c.
its insanely slow though
@@djimpansee4169 Having convocation on a trigger wand solves that problem. You don't need it to deal damage or even stand in any particular location, just exist.
Just started mapping, here comes the grind!
PSA - replacing spectres in King's March does not drop the corpses as it should - they are deleted. Just found this out the hard way. RIP my perfect warlord.
Thank you for your service. Seems it works more like a town than a hideout, huh. And yet you can drop items.... Dammit, GGG, we want a Spectre bank!
Does CDR eldritch modifier on boots work towards the total CDR modifier for the holy relics?
Nope. That only affects us. Not our minions.
Here are 2 questions from me: How important is minion accuracy? How important is my own accuracy?
@@kyrialmeijin1482 u should be taking resolute technique on the talent tree which makes monster not be able to evade ur attacks, so your accuracy doesnt matter. And im almost certain the holy relic skill is a spell so they dont need accuracy
I feel like Spectral Wolves on Kill enchant might be good. Minion Poisons are attributed to the player, so anything that dies to a DoT should summon one and they give 3-6 flat phys damage per wolf which gets converted to chaos, plus each wolf is a minion on its own that gets all flat damage and chance to poison.
> Each spectral wolf grants you a buff that adds damage to your attacks.
It is worded like Raise Spiders from Arakaalis, whos buff also only applies to the wearer of the item; the player in this case.
Or is it different here?
No you're right. It won't work for us. Might work for a nice chains of command build though.
In your Pob Ashes setup, your missing a 23% Quality Holy Relic Gem to get the 82% Breakpoint.
Do we need minion accuracy for relics? Are relics scaling with minion attack/cast speed or it's useless stat for them? What's most important stats to scale damage, cdr/minon damage/+ phydical dmg/+chaos dmg etc.?
No, Relics dont attack, they cast.
Relics dont care about attack/cast speed, as they activate when you attack. Flat Phys/Chaos can scale hit, CDR via quality is the biggest form of scaling, and is gone over in this video.
@@Amardarial Then why in guide in end game tree there are two jewels with +136 accuracy rating and one with minion attack/cast speed? For spectres and animated guardian? There is also minions increased attack/cast speed on large cluster jewel. I am confused about those. As I see it I should only look for life, phys damage, chaos damage, poison chance if not 100% on jewels and maybe some gimmick like hinder/blind or res?
The attack and cast speed affects us. It's not needed it just make it feel way smoother the more attack speed we have. The accuracy is on some jewels because it just was when I got them. It does nothing as holy relics don't need accuracy those were just the jewels I had at the time.
Hi, thanks so much for taking the time to compile the FAQ and for creating this awesome build :) I have a question reg. Ashes version - in your PoB, Holy Relic is on 20% quality socketed in a red socket and Ashes is 30% - which brings Holy Relic to 50% quality (not reaching the 52% breakpoint). I can't figure out where the remaining reduction is coming from. Your boots have 5% CDR but I thought this doesn't apply to minions?
My mistake. Gem needs to be corrupted for extra quality to make up the 2 remaining. Also the boots cdr does nothing for minions.
Thanks for the clear up for spectures, even i am playing the Poison SRS. so i know i can keep my pale and arenamaster untill i get the better corpes. If possible add that to the Writen SRS on PoE-vault aswell.
You're a boss dude. this is dope to have
Hey Balormage, thx for a great guide. Question I havent been able to answer here or in the PoB: Why do we need the trigger craft on the sword to start using relics? It doesnt say anywhere, what you put in the sword when you start, altho i can see later you use desecrate and offering, so assuming thats what I need to put in when i start. But offering is just more block, so not sure, why its mandatory to begin using the skills.
@BalorMage Do you need minion attack speed large cluster with 35% increased effect which are the expensive ones if attack speed does nothing for the minions and only really makes the build feel snappier?
Nope. Not needed. Just nice for us no feel better. Just the inc effect and life is enough. Res is a bonus.
A question I do have is about the Explodes from the Gloves - Is it worth taking the 2 points extra on the Passive Tree to get Spiritual Aid so all Minion Damage nodes also affects you which in turn affects and scales the Explosions from the gloves? It's a 2 point investment and skyrocketing the explosion damage, I just want to know if it's even needed - looks like would be insane for stacked enemies like in Blight or Harvest.
I've never felt the need. But feel free to try it out for sure.
The faq crafting section says to use essences of Woe? is this correct?
So, if I have garb of ephermal on my AG then what major pantheon should I use? Brine kings seems like a waste since I cannot be slowed thanks to this chest
Possibly stupid question, but... once I get a timeless jewel that gives access to Supreme Ostentation, is there a reason not to use tattoos on all possible small passives? Because int, dex and strength do absolutely nothing at that point, right? Or is there a reason we need primary stats that I'm not aware of?
Feel free to use any tattoos on passives
Attack speed on flasks have been removed. What do you suggest as a replacement
should i change to necromancer? i'm playing ghazzy guardian version overall worth to change?
Is PoB still bugged for calculating damage? Based on your first video (5m dps is about 30m), would it be correct to put "Minions deal 500% more damage" in the custom modifiers to get our true dps number, or is the conversion more complex than that?
Honestly it seems to get further and further off the more + levels you get. I don't think any modification we added would be true for all builds or at all stages. I've made the whole build based off how it feels ingame tbh.
why are you not using asenths? i got the profane bloom forbiden jewels do i need them for clear or are people just using them for the temp chain curse?
Hey, does the cdr from gear counts towards gem cdr to get the breakpoint?
is there a skill effect mtx that can replace the holy relic yellow aoe?
LF advice: i have pale seraph/perfect forest warrior/arena master, i'm thinking of buying the perfect hulking and perfect warlord who shoiuld i replace to put those in ?
i'm loving the build its been the smoothest league start :) i'm at t17 but i have a question : i have a jewel minion deal more damage if you have used a minion skill recently , does it work or should i replace it with the jewel +2 mana on hit ?
You technically NOT using minion skill recently (trigger-is not YOU)
So - it`s not working. Mana will be way better, or use convocation manually (but socket pressure will rise)
@@_Da1v3r okay thank you for the answer i will change it for the mana one
Loving the build so far... still missing a lot of pieces, and I'm def. still pretty weak. Aegis is a hell of a drug tho and it seems to carry the defenses in any build it's in... I'm able to handle unending nightmare in T16's and I was able to complete a blight ravaged map with only one death thanks to it being PowerPoint 2024 >.
Sorry if that has been answered already but I struggle to find a way to get my timeless jewel to make me a Supreme Ostentation node, I have two jewels, one being 159,240 and the other being 105,420, which should be inside the range to commemorate the correct guy, but I somehow fail to get the node and get Supreme Grandstanding instead.
Never mind, I thought the number has to be in a range of values which determines the guy it honours, but it just mentions the name of the guy it honours on the jewel. Thanks global chat, I should never have been scared to ask there.
Is there a way to clear my spectre pool please ?
I have several large spectre's in my current pool from when i leveled up, and its hard to find the corpse i currently use with the large one's covering them :P
Can you update with new jewel requirements in pobb, please? I'm always confused when you talk about some of them that I didn't use before and don't know which one to replace. Thank you
We don't get whole +10% phys reduction from bone barrier, right? 3 relics +3-4 spectres +1 guradian. I also run chaos golem so I will get 8-9% phys from bone barrier eventually but not full ammount. Is there any way to up this to full 10% with some temporary minions or maybe run zombies and ditch meat shield or minion life (worried this will kill my ag)?
My holy relic minion keeps dying to AOEs in end game (especially rituals and the league mechanic monsters in juiced T16 maps), but I don't see any minion survivability investments in almost all players for this build. Anyone having the same problems?
That is in the FAQ, 11:43
@@Ildriss I see. I have everything else except the anoint, I'll try the anoint. I've been thinking of taking this cluster (because it's the closest minion survivability cluster to the main tree), but I haven't seen anyone else does this.
@@howrelaxing Hope it helps the build survive! :)
Right now ritual is brutal especially with the green balls that freeze and like 20 of them chase you down. I am playing this build as well, once you get levels (empower) this will help with minion life, also as you get more damage you will get more minion life as you will kill them before they kill your minions
@@Ildriss The block node didn't help much, the relic were still dying. But, after I added a Perfect Warlord (which grants Vitality and Endurance Charges) as my 3rd spectre, it was super effective.
Do you think it would be worth dropping determination to use the new enchant called envy?
Hello, my English is bad, could you help me with a question?
Why the Atk Speed on the weapon?
I have a problem with this build: i keep dying in T6 maps. And in delve, in the azurite mine, in areas that are only level 79, i almost instant die each time i meet Orra Greengate. I think the damage she makes is the most precisely the one that kills me.
With determination i have 7000 armor.
All my resistances (fire, lightning, cold) are caped, with fire at 76, and my chaos resistance is also caped to 75%.
For now, i have 4025 life point.
I'm level 89. Did 3 labs, did not do the last lab yet. I have a 6 link Dialla's Malefaction. Geofri helm + Asenath gloves.
What i don't understand, is that in affliction and necropolis leagues, i played SRS, with very similar builds and stats, and i was never dying even in T15 maps. Also, i could go 5 times deeper in the azurite mine without dying (like depth 270 without dying). I even made hardcore SRS characters on these leagues and it was fine.
now i have 135 dext and i don't have the unique jewel, but i'm already doing more than enough damage with these holly relics. It's just that i die all the time, even at low level maps. the attack speed of my sword is 1.55.
my auras are: determination + tempest shield + vitality
I'm deep into holy relic right now and really like it, the only thing i dont like is, that it doesnt feel that tanky. Guess i will have to check your min max to get tankier, even in 8-mod t16 maps. PSRS felt tankier as much as i can remember
Heyo, maybe im missing something. So sry if its a stupid question. Maybe someone in the comments can help aswell. But i feel like my spectres and ag are kind of vulnerable to dot/chaos damage. Is there any easy way to add survivabilty?
Edit: also thanks alot for the guide and faq!
If i want to use mageblood, how do i adjust the build especially the poison chance?
you can't use mageblood
All the Darkness Enthroned does is double the poison chance from the jewels (at 100%). You would just need to find 2 more jewel sockets.
Well. 4 more. Because you lose the 2 in thr belt. That are doubled. Can move into a double cluster setup that gets you 2. Idk how you get more though
Yess correct, you would need to find 4 more sockets.
Why the 3% inc. attack/cast speed on the cluster? I thought the minions dont scale with attack/cast speed?
@@dethepwner3892 due tô Spiritual Command node, aspd also applies to you, giving more life/mana gain on hit and no worries about breakpoint aspd
@@rildols ohh I see, ty
what do you think about perfect judgment spirit since the perfect hulking seems not the best , also she cast chaos offering and she gives discpline ? well my setup for end game spectre is weird but give me ur comment .. i use perfect warlord and perfect tiger and perfect judgment spirit and perfect forest warrior
what loot filter u use ?
What shield would be tankiest ? Svalinn with lucky block, Surrender or Aegis ?
Hi, I am using the Chance to poison support and some Jewels with poison chance in my tree (no Darkness Enthroned yet). No matter what I do, my relics show only 40% chance to poison. I have tried to import my build into PoB with the same result showing. The only thing that changes is when I remove the poison support gem. Then the whole chance to poison disappears. The jewels seem to have no effect. What I am doing wrong?
In POB, calc page, select hroc and tick minion stats then look below for poison chance and click it. It should show a breakdown of all your poison sources.
@@pauldavies6392 Thank you for your kind help. PoB did not load my passive tree, that was the issue. All fixed, thanks!
Would it be possible to somehow automate the attacks for holy relic. even if it was worse damage?
@@greatvalue1337 I use shield charge and it procs the relics. Not total automation, but feels better sometimes on easy maps that you can zoom through without stopping to attack with splitting steel.
I actually have all my attributes somehow. What timeless jewel would be good if you aren’t worried about that?
I cannot find much help/information on weapon crafting/targeting in 3.25. How is that weapon possible, from start to finish? :D
Faq: ascendency choice?
Some more faq im sure you will get at some point
1 is this build t17 viable (can it do juiced t17s)
2 can it farm simulacrums
Doesn't putting rise spectre in dialla, removing minion damage or added chaos damage, give us more benefit? We can get rise spectre that way to lvl 29=21 (corrupted gem)+1(from ashes)+2 (dialla)+5 (lvl 6 empower) or even 30 with awakened minion damage support. Hulking Miscreation for 100% more damage to relics and all 4 spectres get buffed and are harder to kill.
You are confusing the buff. Hulking Miscreation buff states: Buffs nearby Constructs with 100% increased Damage and 30% Attack and Cast Speed. It's generic INCREASED not MORE.
can someone enlight me on how replica dragonfang influence the holic relics since it gives levels and we need quality? also, what determine the quality milestones for CDR? cheers
20% qual on gem + Diallas + enhance gets you to 82% which is all you need then +3 gems makes it more tanks and do more damage
how does this add up to 82%? 20% gem 30% dialla 16% enhance is 66% not 82 am i missing something?
he says use determination but what other auras does he have? I'm wondering what I should drop to use it.
Im playing sthg else but thats what i call a document. What a Chad(s)
trying really hard to show off them nails susge
You like what you see? It's okay I won't tell anyone.
Poor dude is an ACTUAL victim of the system designed to feminize males and masculinize whamens. Probably taking pharma meds, has tons of micro plastics and junk food chemicals in him, and had a therapist (whamens) telling him to chop it off for years.
Hey Balor, I am a big fan of your builds, your pSRS build is the first one that got me to level 100. I really wanna play this holy relic build. I have one question, can this build do t17s? not just the map mob but bosses as well? and how much currency do one need to invest in this build to make it a t17 farmer? TIA
I've already ran some this season. Look at my toon right now. It's capable but not super smooth. If I fix the quality on my gem. And get an amulet. I think we are good to farm away.
How do I get mana regen and what other defensive layers r there
hey Balor. Love this build since last league when i tried it. Do you think it is CI viable with a MB and adorned jewel? I did a melding,MB, adorned last league and it was really tanky but did not find an optimal way to do CI without loosing quite a bit of DPS. Keep up the good work and +1 to subscribe :D
My problem with the spectres is, my perfect pain artist is always dying even if I buy higher ilvl ones, so I want to level up my raise spectre but the build doesn't reallyyy allow much room for int and in the pob from the last video, balor also has a lvl 20 raise spectre but is missing 40~ int to be able to support it so, I don't really understand. In a constant loop of having to rebuy my pain artist and its painful to say the least.
Balor has a Supreme Ostentation keystone allocated (through the timeless jewel). Supreme Ostentation, at the cost of not getting any inherent bonuses from attributes, eliminates all attribute requirements.
@@Merlin1908 I SEEEEEEEEEE, for some reason I thought this was only limited to armor. That's kinda crazy. Alright well time to farm for a timeless jewel.
Thanks for explaining it so clearly too.
@@YohruuI'm playing without one and I'm fine, there are many ways
I really like the FAQ page.
Thank you. :)
How do i get to 82% CDR without ashes of the stars? 20% gem 30% dialla 16% enhance 3 is only 66% am i missing something?
Put enhance on red socket, should be enough to hit breakpoint
Why should i use empower?
Thanks for the infos, but what I don't get is, how does someone get 52 or 82% quality for the breakpoints? Dialla and gem quality only go together to 50% Is there something a new poe player doesnt see?
Corrupt the skill gem for + quality. It goes to 23. Technically 1 over but that's fine.
Tried swapping to a scuffed setup in act 9 (have all 4 required pieces, minus trigger craft). I must be doing something wrong because it takes 30+ seconds to kill a rare.
@@Infestedhobo1 I swapped from SRS in about Act 7/8 and it was very painful until the gems started leveling up. I don't have the lancing transfigured gem yet but running piercing instead of poison is helping.
Thank you for this amazing document, it was so helpful!
Can we run reflect maps?
@@stefanchiric3691 this build can run any reflect map
Is there a world where we'd do Ashes and Enhance?
If you were trying to go for 128 CDR but that's mental when 82 is ez and more than enough
With a lot of uniques its been difficult to me to cap my resistances @_@
Should I go with Necromancer or Guardian? I did go with guardian due to Sentinel makes my life easier but I can swap to necromancer my lvl still too low.
Can this build do t17?
Yeah.
I used Tattoo of the Kitava Rebel x10 and am now bleed immune. I also used Tattoo of the Kitava Blood Drinker x6 that say .5% of attack damage is leeched as life I'm at 3% so you just gain more free life from hits. I'm still working on what to use for my int nodes on tree which are very few.
My eyes!
the fuzz :o🧸
Dude, shirt! :D
Also - thanks for this video!
What are the best anoint options (besides 3rd spectre, and cheap one). With pros-cons explanations please.
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Build is bonkers. Got already all 4 voidstones and play exclusively destructive play. Dps is insane once you get the ama abyss jewel
bro that white screen is a flashbang and hurts my eyes.. use dark mode! xd
I gave warning! Idk why my dark reader won't turn on.
@@Balormage Q_Q
Now just make a version without spectres and guardians.
Check my latest video.
Give Tjay Noway credit for this build you copied from
I don't know why people say s*** like this, credit goes to the developer that put holy Relic in the game.
Plus I already did like 12 different places when I started this build the first time. It's gone threw like 15 alterations and now has 4 different end game variants that I've worked hard AF on. Tjay is where the idea came from to start with from me. But he wasn't even the first person to make it either, that was some Korean guy on poeninja with no video. The idea of build ownership is stupid I'm just doing my best to improve it, and help as many people as I can to enjoy it.
holy relic sucks
where is ling to this FAQ ?