queen bih even got murked on her own terms. "sure ill take your poison OPE GUESS IM DYING btw i killed your son teehee" in the end she didnt even die in front of jaime. she got away before he could get revenge for what shed done. the night king wouldve looked at olenna and said "thats cold"
@@vendetta8022 "its a rare thing to meet a man who lives up to his reputation" was some absolute rizz tho. like, you cant explain to me that that wasnt lowkey flirting
@@RKNGL I very sorry to hear that. Both my husband and myself had...less then loving Mother's so I can understand what you mean in a limited sense. How any woman can wish harm upon their own child is beyond my comprehension.
Mine was her questioning Tywin if he ever got curious; talk about bold, there is t a person in Westeros that would have left his chambers alive had they done it #QueenOfThorns
I'm sure we'd be having this same discourse if he brought up "Aluminium" which to US Americans would say , stupid Brits, it's "Aluminum." Sometimes it's spelling differences but most times it's just accent it's spoken in.
She cared little, but was still Prudent about what she said in front of Tywin, and some others; out of concern for her House and family. She had a very sharp mind, and the wit to make clever and cutting remarks. Not all elderly don't give an F people are such wordsmiths.
@Mahawww Margery is just as intelligent though, I'm pretty sure if you catch her at any age, she is likely still smarter than everyone else in the room.
The problem with Joffery he listened to everything his mother said till that moment. Cersei filled his head up with stupid opinions and platitudes without ever teaching him wisdom.
Yet, if Robb also listened to Catelyn AFTER SHE DISREGARDED AND DISRESPECTED HIS COMMAND AS KING and released Jaime, he would've lost the entirety of the North. That point is only usable in specific situations that can be taken out of context. The Mad King said to burn them all, so was he right since it would combat the white walkers in twenty years? No, he was a psychopath and no one in their right mind would listen to him. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"
And apparently in the Books Mace may not be as stupid as people think he is... And thta it may all be a ruse, and that he and Olenna are actually equally deciding key actions for the family...
@@alimusliev187 Rob should have listened to catelyn to not let theon go, to marry a frey girl and to not behead karstark. This would have maintained Rob in a strong position and would have prevented Roose Bolton from betraying and Freys from Red wedding.
@jaqenhghar764 if he did not let Bolton lead his army they would winn cause Bolton tried only to save his man at first battle and lost too TYWIN if he chose some one else to lead his army they would winn vs twin and war would go much easier 😤
Her fiance was said to "prefer the company of his friend". Since he ran off with him and died battling pirates in the Stepstones, it's very likely he was the one who called off the marriage. This was the tragedy of Aegon the Unlikely. He arranged good marriages for his children in hopes of securing alliances and they ran off and made him more enemies. His desperate need for some power eventually led to the tragedy of Summerhall.
@nunyabiznes33 Being married to someone so mean-spirited and overbearing would be rough ngl. It's fun to see in a show, not sure how enjoyable it'd be irl. Ever seen one of those old couples where one spouse just dismisses and mocks anything the other does? And the others self confidence is just gone? I can see why he'd run away
More like she got stood up, lmao. She's just old and bitter, the Targaryens of that era hadn't practiced brother-sister incest since Aegon IV, which occured 90 years before, almost a hundred years. Daeron was a gallant warrior and good person from all accounts, but he did not love her, or any woman for that matter.
@@nunyabiznes33Daeron (son of Aegon V) died in Westeros commanding an army with Ser Jeremy Norridge (his "dear" friend and companion) against a rebellion led by 3 guys (who are only known as The Hawk, The Rat and The Pig). He never went to the Stepstones and he was the one who refused to marry her following the examples of his older siblings (who had all married for love breaking their former betrothals)
@@bebos1262 wtf are you talking about lmao King Aerys and Queen Rhaella were brother and sister. His father, King Jaeharys and Queen Shaera, were also brother and sister
I wonder if she is talking about Catelyn Stark. When Renly and Stannis were gearing up to fight she was the only one pointing out how stupid it was for them to fight while the Lannisters are running amuck burning the Riverlands.
She clearly thought highly of herself, dangerous trait of the arrogant to think they’re invulnerable. Some kings would do well to listen to their mothers but sometimes those mothers were more flawed and foolish than the fools wearing the crowns
Nevermind about Caitlyn giving bad advices half the time and Cersei being Cersei (honestly no one should listen to Cersei lol) this advise is really funny (or sad depending how you see it) considering that Stannis and Renly don't have a mother anymore lol
Cat actually gave good advice for example telling Rob not to send Theon to the Iron islands and telling Renly and Stannis to put aside their beef and join Robb in taking down the Lannisters
@@lonemotheo1964 She gave gopd advice sometimes yes, but other times not so much, for example suggesting that they should trade Sansa and Arya for Jamie, it was driven by her mother instincs yes but a bad advice nonetheless.
@@lonemotheo1964 there would be no way for Stannis and Renly to side together. Claiming otherwise is hindsight bias. Renly couldn't expect back magic and the Reach would never have rallied behind Stannis.
Cersei gave Joffrey good advice one time, and that was when she said that he should let Ned Stark live and go take the black for the Nights Watch; we all know how that ended. Maybe he should have listened to her.
Queen of Thrones... more like Queen of Shades. She, Tywin and Tyrion are my favorites in the show. I would've loved it if the writers would've made at least ONE episode where ALL three had a deep conversation together. That would've been an awesome final season. Oh well, can't wait to get my hands on the book set.
Love your work! ❤ I've read the books and watched the show(s), but it's nice to be reminded of the book version of these characters & situations, as I honestly sometimes conflate them! Your videos are perfect! 😊
Sure Ol Joff was a sicko, but he was born like that. His mother's tendencies of making excuses for & pampering her 1st born, made Joffrey develop into something twisted & cruel. Sfprinkle on the fact that he knows he will be King & therefore everyone is his to torment. Your statement would be true, except we have 2 other sources to draw our conclusions from, that's Tommen & Marcylla. & they are both by all accounts, kind, generous, friendly & Personable. They were also solely raised by Cersei, but didn't develop into Joffrey esque types.
If the kings put their swords down and listen to their mothers, that means the one in King's Landing will follow Cersei, and Cersei wins. She'll put down the sword only when the other kings are dead.
@@nunyabiznes33 In the book Robb's wolf had to be locked up because he kept growling at one of his wife's bannermen. Cat picked up on that right away too.
@@imanabdurahman5394Ned was in prison because of his mother, and it was Varys who propose for Ned to be spare not Cersei, she just tell Tyrion later that she never told Jofrey to kill him ,but she say this after she find out that Tywin is mad at her
I mean, one king certainly would've done better if he had. All he had to do was marry as he promised and instead he pissed off the petty lord he needed.
Not only that, his mother also told him not to send Theon Greyjoy away. This would have actually prevented several issues later. Heck, he might have even won the war if followed his mother's advice.
No one can survive Lady Olyenna burn.
queen bih even got murked on her own terms. "sure ill take your poison OPE GUESS IM DYING btw i killed your son teehee"
in the end she didnt even die in front of jaime. she got away before he could get revenge for what shed done. the night king wouldve looked at olenna and said "thats cold"
Except for Tywin lol.
Tywin can
Best pyromancer in the series.
@@vendetta8022 "its a rare thing to meet a man who lives up to his reputation" was some absolute rizz tho. like, you cant explain to me that that wasnt lowkey flirting
Lady Olyenna one of the best characters
A very prickly woman
And a false Advertiser. However, got to hand it to her she has Grandma vibes. Grandma protects
She was a straight savage😂😂😂
Trion,Tyion,Orlana & the viper were my favourite.
Brilliant acting by the actors playing them.
@@TheMightsparrowWtf are those names
"We mothers do what we can to keep our sons from the grave but they do see to yearn for it"
Mothers are just as foolish as us men as they try to prevent one thing which is the demise of thier child but end up pushing them in that direction
Keep my ass lmao the fool released Jaime, his sons most valuable asset. Most mothers in asoiaf are fools
As a Mother whose only child died 3yrs ago this is a very bitter and sad truth.
@@l33t007 and If I'd listened to mine I'd have been in the grave.
@@RKNGL I very sorry to hear that. Both my husband and myself had...less then loving Mother's so I can understand what you mean in a limited sense.
How any woman can wish harm upon their own child is beyond my comprehension.
You dont need a dragon to burn shit when you have Lady Olyenna.
Gall-ant. Just a heads up.
This was the comment I came looking for
I was hoping someone would say it.
What a kind way to help someone out. Good on you.
Mistakes like this are often deliberate to encourage interaction with the video
Thank you. It was bugging me too :)
"A sword swaller through and through" lives rent free in my head.
Mine was her questioning Tywin if he ever got curious; talk about bold, there is t a person in Westeros that would have left his chambers alive had they done it #QueenOfThorns
GALLANT! YOURE MIXING IT WITH VALIANT
I came for this reply, and I was not disappointed
Thank you 👍
I just thought it was a pronunciation difference, like how the H in "history" is pronounced in some places but not others.
I'm sure we'd be having this same discourse if he brought up "Aluminium" which to US Americans would say , stupid Brits, it's "Aluminum." Sometimes it's spelling differences but most times it's just accent it's spoken in.
He does this in a lot of his videos. I'm pretty sure it's done intentionally to drive engagement through comments.
She's just an old lady who stopped giving a shit about politeness, it's a real phenomena that happens in the real world too
She cared little, but was still Prudent about what she said in front of Tywin, and some others; out of concern for her House and family.
She had a very sharp mind, and the wit to make clever and cutting remarks. Not all elderly don't give an F people are such wordsmiths.
@Mahawww Margery is just as intelligent though, I'm pretty sure if you catch her at any age, she is likely still smarter than everyone else in the room.
Lady Olenna Tyrell was a G to the core, she was Awesome, May the good Woman who 🎬 acted her role Rest in Peace 🙏
If Rob had listen to Catelyn, he wouldn’t be dead, if Joffrey had listen to Cersei and not have Ned killed, there wouldn’t be five kings but three
The problem with Joffery he listened to everything his mother said till that moment. Cersei filled his head up with stupid opinions and platitudes without ever teaching him wisdom.
Yet, if Robb also listened to Catelyn AFTER SHE DISREGARDED AND DISRESPECTED HIS COMMAND AS KING and released Jaime, he would've lost the entirety of the North. That point is only usable in specific situations that can be taken out of context. The Mad King said to burn them all, so was he right since it would combat the white walkers in twenty years? No, he was a psychopath and no one in their right mind would listen to him. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day"
Joffery is the way he is because he listened to cersei. The start of the war began because of catlyne
You don’t know what you’re talking about bro
Catelyn? She destroyed the North and The Riverlands ALONE
I remember reading the first paragraph where she appears in the book and laughing my ass off with how she spoke of everyone, even her family😂😂😂
Every chapter with her in it was such a relief. 😂 She was savage
Lady Olenna should have been a dragon, she throws out the most Savage Burns😅
if she is a dragon I imagine her to be vhagar
Because of the chin?@@NeilsonBuntowa
@@Davidxdgh5 that and like vhagar she wont take shit from anyone especially younger than her as example with arrax.
Literally nothing savage about that
Imagine Vhagar saying: " tell Rhaenyra, I want her to know it was me" hahha
The Queen of Thorns was the true Queen in Westeros….. and my heart. I love a sassy old lady.
Love a sassy old queen babyyy
Olenna said, after having been the main power behind Renly's attempt at the crown.
@lnsflare1 that's how she drew her conclusions. She met him personally and realised he ain't it.
It was Mace's idea to get involved in the War of the 5 Kings. Olenna wanted to be neutral, like in the Dance of the Dragons.
@@billcipherproductions1789 and do as little as possible like in the baratheon rebelleon
Olenna and margaery are two of my favs in the books, I absolutely love their scenes and interactions
And apparently in the Books Mace may not be as stupid as people think he is... And thta it may all be a ruse, and that he and Olenna are actually equally deciding key actions for the family...
She's one of the worst for me Lol 😂😂
She wasn't wrong
Yes she was ROB should never have listened to his mother and his army would not lose under Bolton against Tywin
@@alimusliev187
Rob should have listened to catelyn to not let theon go, to marry a frey girl and to not behead karstark. This would have maintained Rob in a strong position and would have prevented Roose Bolton from betraying and Freys from Red wedding.
She forgot that cersi she was also a mother too
She forgot that cersi she was also a mother too
@jaqenhghar764 if he did not let Bolton lead his army they would winn cause Bolton tried only to save his man at first battle and lost too TYWIN if he chose some one else to lead his army they would winn vs twin and war would go much easier 😤
Olenna could’ve been Queen but refused to marry a Targ due to their “strange customs.”
Her fiance was said to "prefer the company of his friend". Since he ran off with him and died battling pirates in the Stepstones, it's very likely he was the one who called off the marriage.
This was the tragedy of Aegon the Unlikely. He arranged good marriages for his children in hopes of securing alliances and they ran off and made him more enemies. His desperate need for some power eventually led to the tragedy of Summerhall.
@nunyabiznes33 Being married to someone so mean-spirited and overbearing would be rough ngl. It's fun to see in a show, not sure how enjoyable it'd be irl. Ever seen one of those old couples where one spouse just dismisses and mocks anything the other does? And the others self confidence is just gone? I can see why he'd run away
More like she got stood up, lmao. She's just old and bitter, the Targaryens of that era hadn't practiced brother-sister incest since Aegon IV, which occured 90 years before, almost a hundred years.
Daeron was a gallant warrior and good person from all accounts, but he did not love her, or any woman for that matter.
@@nunyabiznes33Daeron (son of Aegon V) died in Westeros commanding an army with Ser Jeremy Norridge (his "dear" friend and companion) against a rebellion led by 3 guys (who are only known as The Hawk, The Rat and The Pig).
He never went to the Stepstones and he was the one who refused to marry her following the examples of his older siblings (who had all married for love breaking their former betrothals)
@@bebos1262 wtf are you talking about lmao
King Aerys and Queen Rhaella were brother and sister.
His father, King Jaeharys and Queen Shaera, were also brother and sister
listen to their mother, like Joffrey ??
😂
I wonder if she is talking about Catelyn Stark. When Renly and Stannis were gearing up to fight she was the only one pointing out how stupid it was for them to fight while the Lannisters are running amuck burning the Riverlands.
Cersei told Joff to pardon Ned but he didn't listen to Mommy 🥲
If he did, Ned would not be killed but sent to the wall
Joffrey's mother told him to send Ned to the Wall to avoid war with House Stark.
Joffrey chose to execute him.The rest is history.
Yeah no he didn't. "Madness. Madness and stupidity."
The Queen of Thorns, the only woman who would have come up on top of Joffrey. And deliver the a$$ whopping Jofffrey deserved.
I can assure you sir,
"Galiant" is not a word.
Gallant it is a typo
She clearly thought highly of herself, dangerous trait of the arrogant to think they’re invulnerable. Some kings would do well to listen to their mothers but sometimes those mothers were more flawed and foolish than the fools wearing the crowns
Nevermind about Caitlyn giving bad advices half the time and Cersei being Cersei (honestly no one should listen to Cersei lol) this advise is really funny (or sad depending how you see it) considering that Stannis and Renly don't have a mother anymore lol
Cat actually gave good advice for example telling Rob not to send Theon to the Iron islands and telling Renly and Stannis to put aside their beef and join Robb in taking down the Lannisters
@@lonemotheo1964 She gave gopd advice sometimes yes, but other times not so much, for example suggesting that they should trade Sansa and Arya for Jamie, it was driven by her mother instincs yes but a bad advice nonetheless.
@@lonemotheo1964 there would be no way for Stannis and Renly to side together. Claiming otherwise is hindsight bias. Renly couldn't expect back magic and the Reach would never have rallied behind Stannis.
Cersei gave Joffrey good advice one time, and that was when she said that he should let Ned Stark live and go take the black for the Nights Watch; we all know how that ended. Maybe he should have listened to her.
Robb Stark: shut up lady olenna
😅😂
Wtf was that last pic bro, Queen of Thorns now a Night Queen? Lol 😂😂
Yeah, that was supposed to be funny somehow but it looks horrible and out of place imo
You know, a king did listen to his mother once. His name was Maegor the Cruel.
and he secured the Targaryen dynasty for generations, so....
@@wiseguy01 Fair enough.
Because that worked so well for Robb.
She was a very wise kick ass Granny Queen 👑 RIP Granny
Gallant and valiant are two different words lol
'If they would just listen to their mothers' joffery and tommen 💀💀💀
"All kings is mostly rapscallions, as fur as I can make out." -Mark Twain, 'The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn'
"Listen to their Mothers"
She forgot that Mothers like Cersi existed for a moment there.
Queen of Thrones... more like Queen of Shades. She, Tywin and Tyrion are my favorites in the show. I would've loved it if the writers would've made at least ONE episode where ALL three had a deep conversation together. That would've been an awesome final season. Oh well, can't wait to get my hands on the book set.
That last pick Queen of MF Nightmares
My favorite character.
Rest In peace Dianna Rigg you were a wonderful actor ❤️
“A sword swallower through and through!” Lady Olenna 😂
One of if not THE best character from the series
I respect that hustle and perspective
So she's just as arrogant as the guys she decries. She wants them to listen to her.
Drogon listened his mother and he burned King's Landing.
“AlL mEn ArE fOoLs” wow really? I guess the rose of Tyrell was never watered with wisdom.
Robb Stark listened to his mother and we seen how that ended…
Lysa, Catelyn, Cersei. Nuff said.
Cat Stark was a mother, her sis was a mother and Cersei was a mother. Look how great and wise they were.
Stannis: I now see why your husband rode a horse off a cliff.
Papa, there’s no “i” in gallant.
Love your work! ❤ I've read the books and watched the show(s), but it's nice to be reminded of the book version of these characters & situations, as I honestly sometimes conflate them! Your videos are perfect! 😊
Yeah, Joffrey's big problem was definitely that he had no listened to his mother enough.....
"He knew how to bathe" hhaaaaaaa! My lady, I will use that in conversation
Ironic foreshadowing for Rob Stark
I would say she is right but then again Joffrey became who is was due to HIS mother
Sure Ol Joff was a sicko, but he was born like that. His mother's tendencies of making excuses for & pampering her 1st born, made Joffrey develop into something twisted & cruel. Sfprinkle on the fact that he knows he will be King & therefore everyone is his to torment. Your statement would be true, except we have 2 other sources to draw our conclusions from, that's Tommen & Marcylla. & they are both by all accounts, kind, generous, friendly & Personable. They were also solely raised by Cersei, but didn't develop into Joffrey esque types.
Last picture of zombie Olenna
I just re-read this passage a few days ago lol. “Left and Right” lol
Damn. That last pic of the Lady O rotting in that High Garden heat is ferocious.
The AI fucking up Gallant is hillarious.
"Olenna" as "Oleena" as well
"Joffrey, listen to your mother'💀😂
Gallant. The word is gallant.
“… and listen to their mothers”
Looks at Cersei with Joffery, yeah I’m sure he’d do a lot better
Mad to have bespoke subtitles and still add an ‘i’ to ‘gallant’
"and listened to their mothers"
That didn't helped joffrey
You gotta love her and burns she delivers
She'd clearly not met Joffrey's mother at that point
She’s right about renly, like seriously how the hell did he think he’s suitable for the throne 💀💀
He probably saw Robert loafing, drinking and whoring and thought, "I can do better". 😅
Rob listened to his mama... ijs....
Thank god they didn't listen to their mothers. What a psychotic affair that would be.
The Olenna art is amazing love the concepts
The last picture will haunt me at every wolf hours
Madam had beef with everyone and everything and had the smoke for it😂😂😂😂
Olenna, the mother of Robert, Stannis, and Renly is fucking dead. She died, and Robert and Stannis watched.
Queen if Thorns indeed
Showing her as one of them at the end is diabolical 💀
When you're right you're right....
"...and very CLEAN."
Because listening to Cersei worked out so well for Joffrey
Gallant, not Galliant. That's not a word.
If the kings put their swords down and listen to their mothers, that means the one in King's Landing will follow Cersei, and Cersei wins. She'll put down the sword only when the other kings are dead.
Even when she was dying, she was still talking smack, lol
Literally the worst periods in Westeros were when they had a Queen.
Imagine a child with Ned and Cat as parents, Olenna as a grandmother and Tywin as a grandfather. Would be the best ruler to ever live
I don't think she wanted Jaffrey to listen to her mother
Their mothers? One of those mothers is Cercei
Funnily enough of Robb listened to Cat about Theon then the whole downfall of House Stark wouldn't have happened.
Exactly. She may be stupid most of the time but she did had some sort of intuition. She was on edge on the lead up to the Red Wedding.
@@nunyabiznes33 In the book Robb's wolf had to be locked up because he kept growling at one of his wife's bannermen. Cat picked up on that right away too.
Not all kings Joffrey was a psychopath. Can you imagine what type of person he would've been if listen to his mother💀
Ned wouldn’t have died if he had listened to his mother 😅
@@imanabdurahman5394Ned was in prison because of his mother, and it was Varys who propose for Ned to be spare not Cersei, she just tell Tyrion later that she never told Jofrey to kill him ,but she say this after she find out that Tywin is mad at her
Except Jeoffrey. Listening to his mother is what got him all messed up to begin with
The woman with an attitude and a great deal of wisdom too. One cannot speak as she does and not be wise, that would end badly
Got dawyum that last photo my guy😂
Well jofrey lisened to Cerci
Tell that to joffery see how it worked out for him.
I love how the actress has the same eyes as Natalie Dormer. Truly a beautiful work casting those ladies.
The last picture was scary af lol
"listen to their mothers" - still not a good advice to Joffrey
She slays
She thinks too high of herself.
Listen to their mothers? Tell that to Robb Stark
1,000% correct! Handsdown favorite family and Matriarch! 🌹
Except Rob: my god, even after dead that woman kept taking bad decisions
Very strong old lady...she is silent yet did what she wanted
For future reference, that's not how you pronounce the word "Gallant"
My absolute most favorite character in the books and the movies. ❤
Ah yes, the queen of hypocrisy
I mean, one king certainly would've done better if he had. All he had to do was marry as he promised and instead he pissed off the petty lord he needed.
Not only that, his mother also told him not to send Theon Greyjoy away. This would have actually prevented several issues later. Heck, he might have even won the war if followed his mother's advice.