Makes sense but in lol we have two types of lore champions the champions who don't push the lore: Naafiri, blitz, hecarim, vayne, taric, pike and a lot of others. And the ones who push: Zoe, ekko, zillean, aatrox, leblanc, viego, thresh and a lot of other champions. For me it makes sense that some champions don,t push the lore and some others push, like imagine how fast the lore would end if all the champions pushed it.
@abelyoramandradesilva3749 bro the lore will never end. Imagine a novel with 12 chapters and how many events happen in such a novel.we littarly are in chapter 1. We never explored ryze, like that guy alone has insane story potential with many possible encounters with characters. And demacia noxus piltover shurima and the island of ionia. How isn't this lore infinitely explorable with infinite possible encounters and events. There could be an event where all of the nations gets to defend the world from one big threat to the world of runterra despite all their fights and wars between them. This is just an idea i came with on the spot. Like aliens that come to runterra to gather magic and it's whole new champion type. The lore objectively can't end and it's so unexploited right now.
Every champion Pushed Lore in some way. (Maybe not Mundo) Taric told us how it looks when you climb Mount Targon Zoe is concept of "What if Celestial beings were more human and less serious?" Kayle and Morgana - beggining of Demacia and "What is aspect has children?" Naafiri and K'Sante in their stories told us that even ANIMALS can be Ascended/Darkin LeBlanc stories in some way pushed forward the Lore but in some way she just unvailed little stuff that already happened while setting few more question marks. WHOLE ruination event pushed the world forward with each conected champion evolving trough it. Fiddle became primordial great demon, first of 10, Nilah is wielding power from second of their kind. Gwen and Lillia are new type of creature not fully a spirit not fully a real person - more like animated wish of something bigger or stronger Milio didn't gave a lot but still he gave some champions(Zyra, Qiyana, Neeko, Nidalee) place to settle in timeline. Vex is exact oposite of every Yordle we already have. She reveals that Yordles as spirits cannot die. Every Yordle is somewhat personification of concept or archetype. They are immortal and obsesed about something so they become IT. That means they are kind of "unfixable" they will be themselved no matter what. That's why Yordles look liek caricature of their chosen persona Tristana is soldier, Heimer is more about thinking than doing, Lulu wants to "Do magic!" even tho it works 50/50, Vex seems to be depressed 24/7 but still some good feelings spark trough. Just like Veigar tries to be evil but he can't - even Mordekaiser didn't turn him on his side. EVERY champion adds something to the table.
@@fantasticalthoughts hey man makes a lot of sense what u said but they are already making the start of the end. There is the void in the lore that is equivalent to the aliens and sadly the riot games creator of the game is already going to an end of the lore like the rushed one of the worst world enemy( viego) and im feeling that for some sad reason they are gona rush the attack of the void that probably will be in 2 or 4 years in the future
I actually think the lines talking about how powerful she is isn't actually reality, but that is her own perception of herself. She thought she as an individual was powerful and could kill or rule all others. But then she realized that this way of thinking was flawed to begin with. Because every Darkin thought the same about themselves was why they lost.
Basically, I imagine Atroxx has the same opinion of himself. And when sealed i bet he was saying “I was so close to ending those other idiots!! How did I let this happen?!” Just like Doglady here.
Imagine naafiri just coming up with an amazing plan but aatrox ran in 5 mins ago and Xolaani is playing with blood and whispering to herself. It could be tho that she was a tactician.
I think the lore description of Naafiri's power was based in her own opinion of herself. It _is_ written in third person, but the words used to talk about her feel so personal and intimate, like the narrator is more focused on telling us how she feels, not stating the facts
@@danielwoods3896 i think it was that good, prpbably riot has been releasing Complicated champions in a row that sett just feels Like a perfect change
Well, to be fair even she say she is the most powerful doesn’t mean she was. Everyone was fighting for power and leadership, so in their minds they were all the most powerful and deserving of uniting the Darkin.
About Naafiri being especially powerful and having "almost" led the Darkin During the story I interpreted that as her subjective opinion and thought it was a quite spot-on detail Since the story is written from Naafiri's point of view, as a Darkin, it makes a lot of sense that she would believe she was "that close" to rule them all, wouldn't it?
I thought the same, her story is about she leaving her ego to embrace the "pack" thinking so it makes sense that she thought of herself as the most powerful darkin and best suited to lead the other... Just like the other darking xD
The bio's are always written from a narrator's perspective, however since in this scenario the narrator describes her thoughts, what you said is indeed correct
This is just a thought. Maybe instead of being actually powerful enough to rule the darkins, Nafiri was only relatively powerful, and her claiming she could lead them is just her overconfidence speaking. It is mentioned that she is ambitious, and in my opinion, most ambitious people are also overconfident.
Ok, can I talk about how the lore team really made their homework? Because the lore incorporated the idea of how the dune hounds are an apex predators together, just like african wild dogs in real life, one dog is just... A dog, but a whole pack are the scariest thing in the savannah, lions and hyenas go out of their way to kill a pack member, just because how dangerous they are. MAN I LOVE NAAFIRI
You have such a great way of making lore entertaining, even to people like myself who don't really seek it out or care for it much. Good stuff as always
Yep, btw you could take a little inspiration there and try theme (lore accurate) team comps with FFS. Just a single problem either convincing others there to watch some lore or to try to fake you know it XD.
I got the impression that the emphasis on Naafiri's power was more of a nod to the general arrogance the darkin all seem to posses rather than directly referring to their canon strength.
I think Naafiri's hype is most likely that high because all champions weren't having a proper event to introduce them (Except Viego, tho it was catastrophic, he stilled was hyped) But Naafiri remind us of the Darkin Even that is yet to come, thus the hype I think, and not Naafiri itself.
Hey, remember when they fundamentally changed all the rules of the Void by releasing a character and then did absolutely nothing with it because of course the shittiest batch of Star Guardians to ever be thinked up should take the spotlight instead?
i feel like naafiri WANTED to be picked up by a host, waiting for whatever living thing would grasp it, so she willingly separated parts of the weapon while being VERY confused of becoming one with not just one, but multiple vessels. that would leave anyone completely disoriented
Literally every single darkin want nothing more than for a host to pick them up. Obviously? It literally even says in her lore that she called out to the hounds, so they could kill the guy and Naafiri could take over him that way. Every single darkin want to be picked up by a host. lmfao.
How can she even know there is a way out of the prison? Aatrox had no idea he can control others when they pick him up, so how does Naafiri know about it? Was she used before, if so why was that never mentioned in the story?
I think the idea of Naafiri being powerful enough to lead the darkin is all in her head. Like some of the other darkin, she vied for leadership and believed that she deserved to be in control because she believed she was the strongest. It turns into a story of a massive ego humbled into looking at the power dynamics from a different perspective.
Since the story is from Naafiri’s point of view, it could be that every Darkin thought they where the most powerfull and close to leading everyone else, not just Naafiri being another very powerful Darkin
I think Naafiri should be considered an unreliable Narrator when she speaks of her power. The Darkin went mad because of power so it would make sense that each and every one of the Darkin would THINK they were close to becoming leader, even if the reality looks different.
Took a while but finally feel like we got another Champ that fits perfectly. She is also the first simple champion in a long time not with an overloaded kit like everyone seem to have now. She is interesting cause she seems to want to unite her kin well the rest of the darkin are just off doing their own things. If she could unite her Kin they could get revenge on Xolaani
can we take a moment to appreciate that he will tell the lore over and over again for us and new viewers even tho he doesnt have to. Really appreciate this kind of effort man
When the story talks about Naafiri being one of the most powerful darkin and that she could lead the rest, I think it means that this is, in her madness and lust for power, what Naafiri thinks. It fits me less about the dogs taking the dagger. Still I don't see why she couldn't be one of the most powerful, after all those who have awakened have done so by chance, not because of their power.
0:07 I thought we were pretty unified about Renata as well? Awesome Lore, Incredible design, good kit with a strong ult. I'd say, she was received very well (but maybe i'm just a delusional Renata main XD)
They weren't, the story never reinforced or even hinted at this prior to LoR, quite the opposite actually. They all chased their own desires, and hated the rest, they became cruel warmongers with nothing of their former nobility remaining
Personally, I think Naafiri talking to herself about how powerful she was and how she almost ruled all the darkin is just her ego. From her story, it seems she was kind of a "I'm the best, I'll kick everybody's ass and I don't need anyone's help, I'm a god, I can take on the world on my own" kind of person and she is a power crazy darkin so it does fit. She is saying something like "oh dude I could TOTALLY solo every single darkin! Aatrox? Pffff! I could beat Aatrox with one hand but daaaaamn this aspect of twilight! Well I guess I can't really fight them now BUT if not for this pesky aspect, dude! I would totally win trust me. She practically saved them!" It's kind of like if I said "dude I could totally beat Goku". Naafiri does give off that kind of vibe, at least to me.
To me this creates a new path for future darkness story lines because the text makes it sound like naafiri has shaken off her madness at least a bit via the pack wisdom could lead to like so many outcomes It feels like her plot line could change so much that the only thing holding her back is lack of character development seeing as her only goal right now is: find darkin
Every struggle nafiri has trying to get her allies to be alongside eachother is justice and its interesting you said it was rushed given how I've seen things irl. So many left behind cuz they are not good enough when everything is everything for everything to have everything and to leave anything behind is to accept nothing as a result. Whether we all unite or not is not the question, do you think the time is worth connection or a lesson about why it is connection?
I think you misunderstood the "powerful darkin", that is just Naafiri puffing up herself, all the darkin do that... Rhaast does that. And her being able to take multiple hosts... it is more because of the hosts' own peculiar physiology than her power, Varus technically has two hosts and them being human they can together influence him, which means more than one host is too much for Drakins, Naafiri got influenced too... but in a more primal way. To me the story clearly tells that Naafiri isn't even close to being as competent or powerful as she thinks she is, he tentative to use the hounds to make the person carrying her make a mistake misfired, and she got fused with animals, and because there are too many her mind got influenced.
From what I gather, the only Darkin "truly" able to control multiple host bodies simultaneously seems to be Aatrox. Xolaani absolutely loses herself in the Aspect-bane form if I remember my LoR card descriptions right, and Aatrox just brute forces his way through hosts and essentially "burns" up their bodies WAY quicker than the other Darkin. I guess you could make a case for Xolaani being ultimately as powerful as Aatrox in that regard, because she is the one who invented the bloodmagic in the first place. Doesn't necessarily mean she perfected it, but definitely does give her an edge.
@@SwagliciousGamingLikely not, considering her weapon is not really suitable for supporting and her ego is too high to serve someone. Maybe one day we will have Joraal (Darkin Aegis) as a darkin support.
I (as many others in this comment section) think that "being close to leading the Darkin" is more of a thought rather than a fact. We all know Azir used to be the emporor that ruled over Shurima, but we also know the true leader is (not was, because he actually called the other Darkins) Aatrox. We also know Xoolani tried to Coup d'etat Aatrox out of power by brainwashing the other Darkin. Nagiri was probably just a Soldier among the ranks, however with this newly gained insights she could turn Aatrox on a different path completely. And maybe just maybe find a way to release themselfs from their prison and fight back against the Targonians Or restore Azir's Shurima once again
I kind of want a Darkin where their entire shtick is they hunt kther Darkin. Not to become more powerful or to take over the world or anything, but just because they got bored with all of the classic Darkin motivations and decided that they wanted to do something new, that being hunting their brothers and sisters because they're really the only thing they know of at the moment that would entertaining to fight
How I personally interpret Naafiri saying she almost lead them, is that she just thinks herself more powerful than she realistically is. Not saying she isn't powerful at all, just that if I were a near immortal god being my ego wud be pretty big, especially after having eons to remember the days when I could take on some of the best of my kin. Like many of the Darkin she probably thought she knew best and wanted to lead her own way. I'd love to see a story where she actually meets the others and has to confront that the other Darkin don't share her ambitions and even treat her as lesser because of her form, maybe even flat out ignoring her.
Declaring herself to be a rival against xolani and aatrox is just dumb at this point just make her one of their lieutenants but hen again she probably just thought she will be the next azir but the fame and respect of aatrox keep her from getting recognize and xolani's blood magic corrupting everyone's mind she really dont stand a chance
I think she thinks she was really powerful and close to uniting all, but she is absolutely mad so it is possible that this was simply her madness and not the truth.
The "Naafiri is really powerfull" part seemed to me as part of her lamenting. Could be that's just how she sees herself. They are pretty mad after all.
4:45 It was never explicit said that the souls of the Darkin were sealed inside the Chalicar, the "reverse ascension" Ta'anari did with the reflection of the moon on the glass amphitheater seemed to actually killed the Ascended present there because the process of ascension was apparently reverted, Ta'anari even said to Myisha that he was mortal once more before being betrayed by her, she then used the chalicar to cut open his chest and used his heart to create the first Darkin weapon (that supposedly still exists) That's my interpretation at least...
We don't know what did she end up doing with his heart, but the rest of what you said is correct. The Chalicar is a powerful magical weapon, which of course Sivir can't really exploit. However they couldn't really make Ta'anari into a Darkin and they honestly had no need to, as he got reverted back to his mortal form. Apparently this moonfire ritual couldn't be used to defeat the rest of the Darkin, thats why they resorted to the sealing method. Some were perhaps so powerful they couldn't have defeated otherwise. This mishap from Necrit is not surprising in the slightest, though
Naafiri may not be so powerfull she could be darkin leader, but in her story she might think she is. Isn't the whole darkin "civil war" about their power struggle and fighting one another for leadership?
i dont like the design at all, its a dog which bit a knife, how is that even a thing, a dog and a knife, a dog cannot even hold a knife, what is that? i think thats a very low effort design, its just a dog which bit a knife with an eye, i mean come on.
Darkin are arrogant and egocentric, Naafiri saying that she almost ruled them could be just what she thought, from what we know so far, Aatrox and Xoolani where both generals of the Ascended Hosts. Aatrox is shown to be respected by a legion of them, so much so that he was able to awaken and call them from literally all over Runeterra, he respects them all(besides the coward, rhaast and varus) and from what we learn from Xoolani, he waged war against her and the Darkin wilingly ralied to his side while Xoolani only had puppets. I can swallow Naafiri being almost if not as powerful as him, they are all ascended after all, but Aatrox is the general and he has their respect and at least some of them still want to be under his command, I doubt she would be able to rule them without killing both Aatrox and the coward of Icathia(Xoolani for those who don't know)
I would say that now she has a chance of ruling them, she has a way to unite them, she has wisdom to compliment her power. But I think both Naafiri and the Darkin Saga expansion are setting up the Darkin War II. Xoolani and her mortal puppets, Aatrox and his legion, Varus and his mortal followers, Naafiri her hounds and whatever or whoever else she can conquer and MAYBE Valeeva can be a big player in this war since she is mentioned in Twilight of the Gods(if I'm not mistaken) and Varus her a quote just for her.
Personally also not a fan of how they treated the Darkin weapon as something that can break, BUT it opens up a very interesting new avenue as to why other Darkin weapons haven't been broken: If each piece of the weapon acts as a conduit into the Darkin's mind (and to slip under their control), chances are that a Darkin split over many many pieces would just either reassemble their weapon - assuming their power gets weaker, the more they are split - or that the Darkin would just take over an entire country with their own hivemind, by breaking themself into more and more parts. Could be an interesting way to take a potential Darkin (in LoR or something), where the entire gimmick is that they're a hivemind of a lot of people, that got dominated because they all have a tiny shard of the original weapon on their body somewhere.
I think you have a misconception about Darkin weapon. Those weapons aren't "un-DMG able", but "indestructible". Part of weapon is made literally by Darkin's FLESH, you can look at Aatrox sword with a beating heart, Raast and Naafiri have eye with flesh around it. It had been said Aatrox blade and Raast can change their side, big/small at will. Darkin weapon can be damaged, but because it made with Darkin flesh, the regeneration will never stop.
Doesn't matter how hungry dogs are, they WON'T eat a pipe of metal (remember that the sword the guy used to defend didn't get eaten). They eat Naafiri blade because the flesh, and if you look at Naafiri, the whole blade still there, intact inside pack mother's skull.
It was said that an unimaginable force pulled the immortal souls of the Ascended into their weapons, which were already tools used by Gods. Therefore the fact that a dog can just break them apart is incredibly stupid. The Ascended's weapons are also quite large, since they are too, around twice the height of a normal person. In one of Elise's stories, its mentioned that a Shuriman tomb-raider wields an obisidian sword he looted in the ruins, which is theorised by the guy to only have been a dagger for the huge Ascended
It would’ve been cooler if she was actually a weaker Darkin who already had experience using blood magic to make smaller versions of herself and the pack enhanced that in a surprising way for her. Like she had looked down on animals, but experiencing the minds and thoughts of pack animals made her go, “oh, this is so much better.”
I think when she says that she almost led the Darkin it is her pride speaking. Its most likely what most of the darkin thought in their hubris. I think this is true because this isnt a narrarator in the 3rd person(an all knowing narrarator) , but a narrarator in the first person(Naafiri) whom has certain biases. Her real strenght is to be determined
Necrit, Ascendeds aren't only in Shurima there are also those who were in Icathia and most of the darkins come from Icathia thanks to LoR confirming that Aatrox was once called the blade of Icathia
there is a few things that I don't really like about Naafiri : 1) saying she was able to lead the Darkin because she was super powerful blablabla : it's useless and uncalled for. Felt forced and unnecessary 2) she doesn't bring ANYTHING to the general lore. Like... at all. 3) if you wanted a female darkin : you had Varus's sister, Valeeva. If you wanted a dog like Darkin : you had Cebotaru. Valeeva and Cebotaru are BOTH alive somewhere. Naafiri just... happened all of a sudden. It feels unnecessary
Honestly, I took the dogs eating the dagger as a consequence of her decision to call to them instead of to the man carrying her. I've always kind of imagined the Darkin has a minor amount of influence over the people around them... allowing them to persuade more hesitant individuals to becoming their hosts. So, when she called to the hounds, she influenced them to seek power they didn't even know existed... and they took it greedily and happily.
And why is everyone saying Rhaast is weak? Just because he didn't consume Kayn (YET) doesn't mean he is weak. We know Kayn is strong shadow magic user and that magic somehow can kill Darkin. (when you chose Shadow Assassin form Rhaast dies and I know it's a What If scenario but we know what will happen) If timeline continues there is only one possible outcome and it's Rhaast will eventually overcome
her being powerful is good in my opinion i mean all darkin are power hungery u said so why wouldnt they be powerful in majority. and the minority is weak darkin cuz thats what they strived for. and the xolaani part i mean i doubt every darkin would know thats there issue really was xolaani's doing
I actually didn't see someone who liked Naafiri's design. She was a god warrior. Her design should've been like Aatrox and Rhaast. I respect others opinions but I actually hated Naafiri's design. One of the worst designs ever imo.
12:45 for the sake of immersion I'm writing that part of the story off as Naafiri stoking her own ego, she is obviously subservient to Aatrox otherewise she wouldn't have followed his memo
That is because we are sick and tired of champions like Seraphine. I mean enough. We want badass, monster champs that are looking strong and dangerous. Not the ones that are only strong in lore. That is why champs like that black rose woman riding a mechanical horse is not popular at all.
so technicly naafari made it that: aatrox became depressed and suicidal rhaast had to babysit (actually gets babysitted) kayn and be used like a toy varus became the fusion of a couple
so it's probably really obvious but the I believe the reason that Naafiri is a Mid-laner and the next Darkin is going to be a Support is to have at least 1 Darkin champ in each role and I suspect the next Darkin to be a Tank support mainly because I think an Enchanter is not really thematic to the edgy Darkin style but a big aggressive bruiser who feeds kills to their ADC I can see -Top: Aatrox -Jungle: Kyne -Mid: Naafiri -Bot: Varius -Sup: N/A
QUESTION: why can’t the celestial beings just snap their fingers to undo the darkin situation?? More specifically Aatrox’s situation. If his entire philosophy is based on achieving complete oblivion so he can be in peace, why can’t they just snap their fingers and literally blink dude out of existence to end his suffering? Or send him to a quiet plane existence that’s catered just for him. Idk
Naafir: General Aatrox we can still save Darkins. We can destroy whole world but we need to do this together! Aatrox: A DOG! REALLY A DOG! Yeah (proceed to smash her with his sword)
Necrit you need to re-read Twilight of the Gods again and darkin lore in general because you misremembered or misinterpreted so much. The chalicar + moon beam killed them. I don't know where you got the "Xolaani trick the other darkins and infuse them with Blood Magic", there's zero mention of that. From how the writer described it she's literally just controlling their bodies blood with blood magic, even comparing it to ATLA bloodbender.
I think an easy way to make Nafiri important in a way that doesn't tread on other important darkin's territory *and* tie back into her transformation into the pack mind of the dune hounds is to have her be the *first* Darkin Xolani tricked. Have Xolani promise her the power to lead the other Darkin, more power then any other darkin would receive... If only she would show them the way. If only she would take that first step towards further ascension. If only... She accepted the blood magic. That way you have reason for her to believe that she was so close to leading the Darkin, and you also tie back into what she became by having her be the "pack leader" for the Darkin's transformation into... Well, the Darkin. You have that first hint of Nafiri symbolizing the unity of the pack by having her be the one that makes the Darkin trust Xolani. She doesn't have to be extremely powerful to take over a pack, because she was made to *be* a pack from the very start. Bam, now she's not only got a pretty valid reason to be important, you can have interesting interactions with the other Darkin, as Nafiri was simultaneously the first victim, *and* the one that trapped them as Darkin in the first place. It'd especially be interesting in terms of her trying to unite them, having to find ways to ether instill trust or force loyalty and grow the pack. Speaking of that pack, you've also got her little spheal about how everyone is part of one and can think as one, even supposedly independent creatures like humans. That, combined with her desire to grow her pack more, seems to me to hint at her maybe not wanting the same destruction the other Darkin want; the same death and end. She seems more... Collectivist. Like instead of death, she wants to give the Darkin, *her* pack, purpose, in the pack, with the pack, *as* the pack. This would put her at odds with not just Xolani, for control of the Darkin, but Aatrox as well, as she'd oppose his desire to end their suffering. I think Nefiri could be potentially very interesting, but ultimately... I have to agree the lore feels rushed. It feels like there was more there they didnt get to write.
For me, Naafiri saying "i am so powerful i was almost the best" was just self-deception Like We only have their words. And all Darkin are very much known as both power hungry and mad. They passed millenia in a crypt. Rewriting their own memories again and again is probably to be expected at that point.
I think the whole "VERY POWERFUL" spiel is because the story is narrated from each of the darkins point of view. All of them think for themselves that they're the strongest
I was under the impression that her statement about being able to control all the darkin was more of a baseless boost instead of her actually being that powerful.
Do you think they'll bring out the corrupted ascended ? (Corrupted Azir, Xerath, Renekton, Nasus), I feel like since they are based on blood magic ascended, maybe this might be later released?
All the Bios are "false". They are written from the point of view of the protagonist. Naafiri "believes" to be stronger, but in reality she is "average" compared to them. Moreover ... If she was strong, she could choose other hosts, like Aatrox who change them continuosly.
So, if all Ascended had animal forms, does that mean Darkin should look vaguely animal too? And if Darkin are just crazed ascended with blood magic, would Renekton with blood magic classify him as Darkin?
Wait Necrit so what are you saying is that ppl craft weapons like chalicar (i don't know how it's written) and then seal darkin in it, right? But what about Aatrox's phrase: 'I chose a sword,a noble weapon.' What about that? 🤔
A monster type champ ? Has riot finally stopped their bullshit "good looking shirtless/ cute champ" dynamic ? I guess they probably sold enough skins and reached their money quota for a little while
I'm actually disappointed with her design, not because it's bad one, I mean she is a silly dog, I love that, but they sell her as a monster champion and well... She is not, you can argue that yes and etc but, when I'm thinking about a monster champion in league I would never pick Naafiri as one of them... :'/ I mean they promised a monster design, she looks more like a quite normal dog, saying that Naafiri has a monster design it's like saying that Yumi has one or Anivia, and not just that but the concept or she being a a single being in a lot of hosts, like a collective conscience sounds pretty cool, but in the actually looks it's more like she is an specific dog and the other just follow the leader without mind, they don't seem of equal importance. The same as I don't think about a monster cat being just a normal cat with an antenna in her forehead and purple , I don't think about a monster dog just being normal dog with blades in her neck and red...
what matters to me is whether naafiri can push the lore forwards and not just a missing piece to the darkin story
Makes sense but in lol we have two types of lore champions the champions who don't push the lore: Naafiri, blitz, hecarim, vayne, taric, pike and a lot of others. And the ones who push: Zoe, ekko, zillean, aatrox, leblanc, viego, thresh and a lot of other champions.
For me it makes sense that some champions don,t push the lore and some others push, like imagine how fast the lore would end if all the champions pushed it.
@abelyoramandradesilva3749 bro the lore will never end. Imagine a novel with 12 chapters and how many events happen in such a novel.we littarly are in chapter 1. We never explored ryze, like that guy alone has insane story potential with many possible encounters with characters. And demacia noxus piltover shurima and the island of ionia. How isn't this lore infinitely explorable with infinite possible encounters and events. There could be an event where all of the nations gets to defend the world from one big threat to the world of runterra despite all their fights and wars between them. This is just an idea i came with on the spot. Like aliens that come to runterra to gather magic and it's whole new champion type. The lore objectively can't end and it's so unexploited right now.
Every champion Pushed Lore in some way. (Maybe not Mundo)
Taric told us how it looks when you climb Mount Targon
Zoe is concept of "What if Celestial beings were more human and less serious?"
Kayle and Morgana - beggining of Demacia and "What is aspect has children?"
Naafiri and K'Sante in their stories told us that even ANIMALS can be Ascended/Darkin
LeBlanc stories in some way pushed forward the Lore but in some way she just unvailed little stuff that already happened while setting few more question marks.
WHOLE ruination event pushed the world forward with each conected champion evolving trough it.
Fiddle became primordial great demon, first of 10, Nilah is wielding power from second of their kind.
Gwen and Lillia are new type of creature not fully a spirit not fully a real person - more like animated wish of something bigger or stronger
Milio didn't gave a lot but still he gave some champions(Zyra, Qiyana, Neeko, Nidalee) place to settle in timeline.
Vex is exact oposite of every Yordle we already have. She reveals that Yordles as spirits cannot die. Every Yordle is somewhat personification of concept or archetype. They are immortal and obsesed about something so they become IT. That means they are kind of "unfixable" they will be themselved no matter what. That's why Yordles look liek caricature of their chosen persona Tristana is soldier, Heimer is more about thinking than doing, Lulu wants to "Do magic!" even tho it works 50/50, Vex seems to be depressed 24/7 but still some good feelings spark trough. Just like Veigar tries to be evil but he can't - even Mordekaiser didn't turn him on his side.
EVERY champion adds something to the table.
@@fantasticalthoughts hey man makes a lot of sense what u said but they are already making the start of the end. There is the void in the lore that is equivalent to the aliens and sadly the riot games creator of the game is already going to an end of the lore like the rushed one of the worst world enemy( viego) and im feeling that for some sad reason they are gona rush the attack of the void that probably will be in 2 or 4 years in the future
@@fantasticalthoughts u can not make a good story if you just put things together.
I actually think the lines talking about how powerful she is isn't actually reality, but that is her own perception of herself. She thought she as an individual was powerful and could kill or rule all others. But then she realized that this way of thinking was flawed to begin with.
Because every Darkin thought the same about themselves was why they lost.
I had the same interpretation🤝
spot on my guy
Yeah I thought of the same thing
I had the same idea. Felt less like her actual power among the Darkin and more just her own ego.
Basically, I imagine Atroxx has the same opinion of himself. And when sealed i bet he was saying “I was so close to ending those other idiots!! How did I let this happen?!” Just like Doglady here.
riot showed us that they can still make simple champions with good lore and designs
It looks like a jungle camp monster.
@@tony-cotterellisyou can pet her
All is forgiven
@@tony-cotterellis🤓🤓🤓
@@tony-cotterellis it doesn't
and make them stupidly broken
We need a cinematic that pits Naafiri against Yuumi
Dawnbringer and nightbringer skins!
@@bengorohagrid859Nightbringer Yuumi
and the result is yuumi being deleted from league. Good idea
Nature is Metal style, right?
@@crisscore157I second this
I like the idea that she didn’t “almost lead the darkin” because she was powerful, but because she was smart and tactical.
Imagine naafiri just coming up with an amazing plan but aatrox ran in 5 mins ago and Xolaani is playing with blood and whispering to herself. It could be tho that she was a tactician.
Nah, that's just her coping mechanism.
@@josiahlewis5838 AAAAATROOOOX JENKINS!
@zema9401 oh god he just ran in *enemy double kill!*
@@zema9401 gwen gaming
I think the lore description of Naafiri's power was based in her own opinion of herself. It _is_ written in third person, but the words used to talk about her feel so personal and intimate, like the narrator is more focused on telling us how she feels, not stating the facts
The 3rd person narrator being herself also makes sense because she's no longer 1 entity, but a pack.
do you think maybe the lore description of xerath as traitorous short sighted scum was written in azir's perspective?
there only 2 most powerful darkin in the lore so Nafiri being the 3rd strongest is just capping on her part.
"Dude I could TOTALLY beat Aatrox this goddamn aspect of twilight saved his ass so bad! Sooo unlucky man!" ~Naafiri
The release of Sett in 2020 truly shattered my expectations and left an indelible mark on my mind.
You could even say that he suplexed and W'd the entire League community.
I was taking a break, was it that bad?
@@danielwoods3896 i think it was that good, prpbably riot has been releasing Complicated champions in a row that sett just feels Like a perfect change
@@danielwoods3896huh? They were praising Sett's impact to the Runeterra lore.
how they have zolani 's picture. is that a real champ?
Well, to be fair even she say she is the most powerful doesn’t mean she was. Everyone was fighting for power and leadership, so in their minds they were all the most powerful and deserving of uniting the Darkin.
About Naafiri being especially powerful and having "almost" led the Darkin
During the story I interpreted that as her subjective opinion and thought it was a quite spot-on detail
Since the story is written from Naafiri's point of view, as a Darkin, it makes a lot of sense that she would believe she was "that close" to rule them all, wouldn't it?
I agree. Besides, all Darkin are ridiculously powerful; half of the reason they needed to be sealed away
I thought the same, her story is about she leaving her ego to embrace the "pack" thinking so it makes sense that she thought of herself as the most powerful darkin and best suited to lead the other... Just like the other darking xD
The bio's are always written from a narrator's perspective, however since in this scenario the narrator describes her thoughts, what you said is indeed correct
This is just a thought. Maybe instead of being actually powerful enough to rule the darkins, Nafiri was only relatively powerful, and her claiming she could lead them is just her overconfidence speaking. It is mentioned that she is ambitious, and in my opinion, most ambitious people are also overconfident.
Ok, can I talk about how the lore team really made their homework? Because the lore incorporated the idea of how the dune hounds are an apex predators together, just like african wild dogs in real life, one dog is just... A dog, but a whole pack are the scariest thing in the savannah, lions and hyenas go out of their way to kill a pack member, just because how dangerous they are.
MAN I LOVE NAAFIRI
You have such a great way of making lore entertaining, even to people like myself who don't really seek it out or care for it much. Good stuff as always
Yep, btw you could take a little inspiration there and try theme (lore accurate) team comps with FFS. Just a single problem either convincing others there to watch some lore or to try to fake you know it XD.
Naafiri when she meets yuumi: *finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary*
I got the impression that the emphasis on Naafiri's power was more of a nod to the general arrogance the darkin all seem to posses rather than directly referring to their canon strength.
I think Naafiri's hype is most likely that high because all champions weren't having a proper event to introduce them (Except Viego, tho it was catastrophic, he stilled was hyped)
But Naafiri remind us of the Darkin Even that is yet to come, thus the hype I think, and not Naafiri itself.
Hey, remember when they fundamentally changed all the rules of the Void by releasing a character and then did absolutely nothing with it because of course the shittiest batch of Star Guardians to ever be thinked up should take the spotlight instead?
I'm not hyped for some event, I'm hyped for the puppy
Darkins and their lore is popular among the players. So it's not that surprising that a solid Darkin character would also become popular.
Event? I lost all faith of events last year😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
i feel like naafiri WANTED to be picked up by a host, waiting for whatever living thing would grasp it, so she willingly separated parts of the weapon while being VERY confused of becoming one with not just one, but multiple vessels. that would leave anyone completely disoriented
Literally every single darkin want nothing more than for a host to pick them up. Obviously? It literally even says in her lore that she called out to the hounds, so they could kill the guy and Naafiri could take over him that way. Every single darkin want to be picked up by a host. lmfao.
How can she even know there is a way out of the prison? Aatrox had no idea he can control others when they pick him up, so how does Naafiri know about it? Was she used before, if so why was that never mentioned in the story?
I think the idea of Naafiri being powerful enough to lead the darkin is all in her head. Like some of the other darkin, she vied for leadership and believed that she deserved to be in control because she believed she was the strongest. It turns into a story of a massive ego humbled into looking at the power dynamics from a different perspective.
Since the story is from Naafiri’s point of view, it could be that every Darkin thought they where the most powerfull and close to leading everyone else, not just Naafiri being another very powerful Darkin
Always happy to see lore videos on champions with more lore than Shaco!
So any champion?
@@thesolarhunter exactly
That's not a very high bar to set, I don't think Shaco even exists in lore right now
@@jsc1jake512 and you would be correct
Got a HOT feeling that this story continues in LoR someday! The darkin ballista could be the first darkin that she encounters!
Oh boy, dog vs chicken. Who will be roasted the most by Aatrox?
@@kalebriss one day we'll find out!
I think Naafiri should be considered an unreliable Narrator when she speaks of her power. The Darkin went mad because of power so it would make sense that each and every one of the Darkin would THINK they were close to becoming leader, even if the reality looks different.
Took a while but finally feel like we got another Champ that fits perfectly. She is also the first simple champion in a long time not with an overloaded kit like everyone seem to have now. She is interesting cause she seems to want to unite her kin well the rest of the darkin are just off doing their own things. If she could unite her Kin they could get revenge on Xolaani
Good narrative yes but her kit is over tuned the bleed and true sight from a press dumb
Let the bleed go away for true sight on Q mark
can we take a moment to appreciate that he will tell the lore over and over again for us and new viewers even tho he doesnt have to. Really appreciate this kind of effort man
I'd love to see the original forms of the darkin sometime.
Riot didn't confirm she was strong enough to beat aatrox. She did. Doesn't mean it's true. She could just be really overconfident. I like that.
When the story talks about Naafiri being one of the most powerful darkin and that she could lead the rest, I think it means that this is, in her madness and lust for power, what Naafiri thinks. It fits me less about the dogs taking the dagger. Still I don't see why she couldn't be one of the most powerful, after all those who have awakened have done so by chance, not because of their power.
0:07 I thought we were pretty unified about Renata as well? Awesome Lore, Incredible design, good kit with a strong ult. I'd say, she was received very well (but maybe i'm just a delusional Renata main XD)
I mean, she had potential. And then they did absolutely nothing with her.
@@Ronan-ht6jc same with Bel'veth
Lets hope for Arcane Season 2
Sounds like the darkin were split into multiple factions after Asir’s death and Naafiri and Aatrox were the leaders of some of these factions.
Xolaani and Aatrox were among the 2 biggest faction leaders from what I know. Any other factions were of smaller scale and lesser impact.
They weren't, the story never reinforced or even hinted at this prior to LoR, quite the opposite actually. They all chased their own desires, and hated the rest, they became cruel warmongers with nothing of their former nobility remaining
Personally, I think Naafiri talking to herself about how powerful she was and how she almost ruled all the darkin is just her ego. From her story, it seems she was kind of a "I'm the best, I'll kick everybody's ass and I don't need anyone's help, I'm a god, I can take on the world on my own" kind of person and she is a power crazy darkin so it does fit. She is saying something like "oh dude I could TOTALLY solo every single darkin! Aatrox? Pffff! I could beat Aatrox with one hand but daaaaamn this aspect of twilight! Well I guess I can't really fight them now BUT if not for this pesky aspect, dude! I would totally win trust me. She practically saved them!" It's kind of like if I said "dude I could totally beat Goku". Naafiri does give off that kind of vibe, at least to me.
Sad, Sivir is so bad the Darkin inside of the Chalikar doesn't even want to be used by her.
To me this creates a new path for future darkness story lines because the text makes it sound like naafiri has shaken off her madness at least a bit via the pack wisdom could lead to like so many outcomes It feels like her plot line could change so much that the only thing holding her back is lack of character development seeing as her only goal right now is: find darkin
Every struggle nafiri has trying to get her allies to be alongside eachother is justice and its interesting you said it was rushed given how I've seen things irl. So many left behind cuz they are not good enough when everything is everything for everything to have everything and to leave anything behind is to accept nothing as a result. Whether we all unite or not is not the question, do you think the time is worth connection or a lesson about why it is connection?
I think you misunderstood the "powerful darkin", that is just Naafiri puffing up herself, all the darkin do that... Rhaast does that.
And her being able to take multiple hosts... it is more because of the hosts' own peculiar physiology than her power, Varus technically has two hosts and them being human they can together influence him, which means more than one host is too much for Drakins, Naafiri got influenced too... but in a more primal way.
To me the story clearly tells that Naafiri isn't even close to being as competent or powerful as she thinks she is, he tentative to use the hounds to make the person carrying her make a mistake misfired, and she got fused with animals, and because there are too many her mind got influenced.
From what I gather, the only Darkin "truly" able to control multiple host bodies simultaneously seems to be Aatrox. Xolaani absolutely loses herself in the Aspect-bane form if I remember my LoR card descriptions right, and Aatrox just brute forces his way through hosts and essentially "burns" up their bodies WAY quicker than the other Darkin. I guess you could make a case for Xolaani being ultimately as powerful as Aatrox in that regard, because she is the one who invented the bloodmagic in the first place. Doesn't necessarily mean she perfected it, but definitely does give her an edge.
:) I enjoy her ability to heal her pack, for now I consider her a healer. Unfortunate she won't heal the other allies. Oh well :)
I'm waiting for the darkin support :_)
@@josiahlewis5838 the darkin support would most likely be xolaani, since shes a healer in the lore
@@SwagliciousGamingLikely not, considering her weapon is not really suitable for supporting and her ego is too high to serve someone. Maybe one day we will have Joraal (Darkin Aegis) as a darkin support.
I (as many others in this comment section) think that "being close to leading the Darkin" is more of a thought rather than a fact. We all know Azir used to be the emporor that ruled over Shurima, but we also know the true leader is (not was, because he actually called the other Darkins) Aatrox. We also know Xoolani tried to Coup d'etat Aatrox out of power by brainwashing the other Darkin. Nagiri was probably just a Soldier among the ranks, however with this newly gained insights she could turn Aatrox on a different path completely. And maybe just maybe find a way to release themselfs from their prison and fight back against the Targonians Or restore Azir's Shurima once again
I look forward to hearing AAtrox´s new voice lines
I dont think thats happening anytime soon
They don’t tend to add lines to old champs when they introduce new ones.
I kind of want a Darkin where their entire shtick is they hunt kther Darkin. Not to become more powerful or to take over the world or anything, but just because they got bored with all of the classic Darkin motivations and decided that they wanted to do something new, that being hunting their brothers and sisters because they're really the only thing they know of at the moment that would entertaining to fight
Man riot said naafiri would be a darkin topless female assassin with daggers. Wtf is this shit. Even reserved all the naafiri ign's too xd
How I personally interpret Naafiri saying she almost lead them, is that she just thinks herself more powerful than she realistically is. Not saying she isn't powerful at all, just that if I were a near immortal god being my ego wud be pretty big, especially after having eons to remember the days when I could take on some of the best of my kin. Like many of the Darkin she probably thought she knew best and wanted to lead her own way. I'd love to see a story where she actually meets the others and has to confront that the other Darkin don't share her ambitions and even treat her as lesser because of her form, maybe even flat out ignoring her.
The story didn't say she WAS a really powerful and almost took over the Darkin.
She THOUGHT she was.
Like every other Darkin.
feels a bit unfitting for naafiri to be pet as a league animation but ig it was obligatory dog champ thing
Declaring herself to be a rival against xolani and aatrox is just dumb at this point just make her one of their lieutenants but hen again she probably just thought she will be the next azir but the fame and respect of aatrox keep her from getting recognize and xolani's blood magic corrupting everyone's mind she really dont stand a chance
I think the "really strong" and "almost ruled" part is essential for all the darkin
I think she thinks she was really powerful and close to uniting all, but she is absolutely mad so it is possible that this was simply her madness and not the truth.
Imagine if Xolaani gets Silco-ed and she is replaced by Naafiri down to her goals even.
Like how Silco was basically replaced by Renata.
Me on my way to listen to Darkins' lore again for the 968th time at 3 A.M.
The "Naafiri is really powerfull" part seemed to me as part of her lamenting. Could be that's just how she sees herself. They are pretty mad after all.
4:45 It was never explicit said that the souls of the Darkin were sealed inside the Chalicar, the "reverse ascension" Ta'anari did with the reflection of the moon on the glass amphitheater seemed to actually killed the Ascended present there because the process of ascension was apparently reverted, Ta'anari even said to Myisha that he was mortal once more before being betrayed by her, she then used the chalicar to cut open his chest and used his heart to create the first Darkin weapon (that supposedly still exists)
That's my interpretation at least...
We don't know what did she end up doing with his heart, but the rest of what you said is correct. The Chalicar is a powerful magical weapon, which of course Sivir can't really exploit. However they couldn't really make Ta'anari into a Darkin and they honestly had no need to, as he got reverted back to his mortal form.
Apparently this moonfire ritual couldn't be used to defeat the rest of the Darkin, thats why they resorted to the sealing method. Some were perhaps so powerful they couldn't have defeated otherwise. This mishap from Necrit is not surprising in the slightest, though
Naafiri may not be so powerfull she could be darkin leader, but in her story she might think she is. Isn't the whole darkin "civil war" about their power struggle and fighting one another for leadership?
i dont like the design at all, its a dog which bit a knife, how is that even a thing, a dog and a knife, a dog cannot even hold a knife, what is that? i think thats a very low effort design, its just a dog which bit a knife with an eye, i mean come on.
Wasn't Aatrox empowering whole armies partly taking control of them?
HERE ME OUT!
CAN ORNN FORGE A WEAPON TO SEAL A DARKIN? , WHAT WILL BE IT'S OUTCOME?
Darkin are arrogant and egocentric, Naafiri saying that she almost ruled them could be just what she thought, from what we know so far, Aatrox and Xoolani where both generals of the Ascended Hosts.
Aatrox is shown to be respected by a legion of them, so much so that he was able to awaken and call them from literally all over Runeterra, he respects them all(besides the coward, rhaast and varus) and from what we learn from Xoolani, he waged war against her and the Darkin wilingly ralied to his side while Xoolani only had puppets.
I can swallow Naafiri being almost if not as powerful as him, they are all ascended after all, but Aatrox is the general and he has their respect and at least some of them still want to be under his command, I doubt she would be able to rule them without killing both Aatrox and the coward of Icathia(Xoolani for those who don't know)
I would say that now she has a chance of ruling them, she has a way to unite them, she has wisdom to compliment her power.
But I think both Naafiri and the Darkin Saga expansion are setting up the Darkin War II.
Xoolani and her mortal puppets, Aatrox and his legion, Varus and his mortal followers, Naafiri her hounds and whatever or whoever else she can conquer and MAYBE Valeeva can be a big player in this war since she is mentioned in Twilight of the Gods(if I'm not mistaken) and Varus her a quote just for her.
The part where it says she almost led the Darkin was from Naafiri's perspect8ive. It tells us she got quite the ego, like all Darkin seem to have.
does anyone remember when riot said that new characters will have less dashing abilities?
Personally also not a fan of how they treated the Darkin weapon as something that can break, BUT it opens up a very interesting new avenue as to why other Darkin weapons haven't been broken:
If each piece of the weapon acts as a conduit into the Darkin's mind (and to slip under their control), chances are that a Darkin split over many many pieces would just either reassemble their weapon - assuming their power gets weaker, the more they are split - or that the Darkin would just take over an entire country with their own hivemind, by breaking themself into more and more parts. Could be an interesting way to take a potential Darkin (in LoR or something), where the entire gimmick is that they're a hivemind of a lot of people, that got dominated because they all have a tiny shard of the original weapon on their body somewhere.
I think you have a misconception about Darkin weapon. Those weapons aren't "un-DMG able", but "indestructible". Part of weapon is made literally by Darkin's FLESH, you can look at Aatrox sword with a beating heart, Raast and Naafiri have eye with flesh around it. It had been said Aatrox blade and Raast can change their side, big/small at will. Darkin weapon can be damaged, but because it made with Darkin flesh, the regeneration will never stop.
Doesn't matter how hungry dogs are, they WON'T eat a pipe of metal (remember that the sword the guy used to defend didn't get eaten). They eat Naafiri blade because the flesh, and if you look at Naafiri, the whole blade still there, intact inside pack mother's skull.
The dagger is not broken. It’s literally on her face. Look at the red part of the left half of her face.
It was said that an unimaginable force pulled the immortal souls of the Ascended into their weapons, which were already tools used by Gods. Therefore the fact that a dog can just break them apart is incredibly stupid. The Ascended's weapons are also quite large, since they are too, around twice the height of a normal person.
In one of Elise's stories, its mentioned that a Shuriman tomb-raider wields an obisidian sword he looted in the ruins, which is theorised by the guy to only have been a dagger for the huge Ascended
Rhaast before: immna kick zuyan's ass
Rhaast now: aaaa edgy boi too powerful
It would’ve been cooler if she was actually a weaker Darkin who already had experience using blood magic to make smaller versions of herself and the pack enhanced that in a surprising way for her. Like she had looked down on animals, but experiencing the minds and thoughts of pack animals made her go, “oh, this is so much better.”
You can see in the cinematic how the raider is trying to pick the blade up before the hounds but is unsuccessful
I think when she says that she almost led the Darkin it is her pride speaking. Its most likely what most of the darkin thought in their hubris. I think this is true because this isnt a narrarator in the 3rd person(an all knowing narrarator) , but a narrarator in the first person(Naafiri) whom has certain biases. Her real strenght is to be determined
Necrit, Ascendeds aren't only in Shurima there are also those who were in Icathia and most of the darkins come from Icathia thanks to LoR confirming that Aatrox was once called the blade of Icathia
naafiri will be banned every game no exeptions.
RULE 34 GONE BE CRAZY AATROX FUKİN A DOG
I want a darkin set of skins for Nasus and Renekton.
there is a few things that I don't really like about Naafiri :
1) saying she was able to lead the Darkin because she was super powerful blablabla : it's useless and uncalled for. Felt forced and unnecessary
2) she doesn't bring ANYTHING to the general lore. Like... at all.
3) if you wanted a female darkin : you had Varus's sister, Valeeva. If you wanted a dog like Darkin : you had Cebotaru.
Valeeva and Cebotaru are BOTH alive somewhere. Naafiri just... happened all of a sudden. It feels unnecessary
Naafiri's story and cinematic is sick, I love it
I'm not much of a LOL person but I adore this character concept and the story is fantastic imo
Honestly, I took the dogs eating the dagger as a consequence of her decision to call to them instead of to the man carrying her. I've always kind of imagined the Darkin has a minor amount of influence over the people around them... allowing them to persuade more hesitant individuals to becoming their hosts. So, when she called to the hounds, she influenced them to seek power they didn't even know existed... and they took it greedily and happily.
Not Rhaast,he s the wimpy one💀💀💀
And why is everyone saying Rhaast is weak? Just because he didn't consume Kayn (YET) doesn't mean he is weak. We know Kayn is strong shadow magic user and that magic somehow can kill Darkin. (when you chose Shadow Assassin form Rhaast dies and I know it's a What If scenario but we know what will happen) If timeline continues there is only one possible outcome and it's Rhaast will eventually overcome
her being powerful is good in my opinion i mean all darkin are power hungery u said so why wouldnt they be powerful in majority. and the minority is weak darkin cuz thats what they strived for. and the xolaani part i mean i doubt every darkin would know thats there issue really was xolaani's doing
I actually didn't see someone who liked Naafiri's design. She was a god warrior. Her design should've been like Aatrox and Rhaast. I respect others opinions but I actually hated Naafiri's design. One of the worst designs ever imo.
Im just glad they finally made a monster champ after so long.
Everytime Nasus kills Naafiri he better say "what have I done?" And when they see each other they say "what da dog doin"
12:45 for the sake of immersion I'm writing that part of the story off as Naafiri stoking her own ego, she is obviously subservient to Aatrox otherewise she wouldn't have followed his memo
I think so many people liked Naafiri, not cause of her lore but because she's a departure from the usual 200 years bullshit we've been stuck in
That is because we are sick and tired of champions like Seraphine. I mean enough. We want badass, monster champs that are looking strong and dangerous. Not the ones that are only strong in lore. That is why champs like that black rose woman riding a mechanical horse is not popular at all.
A kayn main here, I didnt love how you called Rhaast wimpy!🤬🤬
so technicly naafari made it that:
aatrox became depressed and suicidal
rhaast had to babysit (actually gets babysitted) kayn and be used like a toy
varus became the fusion of a couple
Iesha? ZOE IS A BLACK GIRL?????
Telling everyone!
so it's probably really obvious but the I believe the reason that Naafiri is a Mid-laner and the next Darkin is going to be a Support is to have at least 1 Darkin champ in each role and I suspect the next Darkin to be a Tank support mainly because I think an Enchanter is not really thematic to the edgy Darkin style but a big aggressive bruiser who feeds kills to their ADC I can see
-Top: Aatrox
-Jungle: Kyne
-Mid: Naafiri
-Bot: Varius
-Sup: N/A
QUESTION: why can’t the celestial beings just snap their fingers to undo the darkin situation?? More specifically Aatrox’s situation. If his entire philosophy is based on achieving complete oblivion so he can be in peace, why can’t they just snap their fingers and literally blink dude out of existence to end his suffering? Or send him to a quiet plane existence that’s catered just for him. Idk
Naafir: General Aatrox we can still save Darkins. We can destroy whole world but we need to do this together!
Aatrox: A DOG! REALLY A DOG! Yeah (proceed to smash her with his sword)
Necrit you need to re-read Twilight of the Gods again and darkin lore in general because you misremembered or misinterpreted so much. The chalicar + moon beam killed them.
I don't know where you got the "Xolaani trick the other darkins and infuse them with Blood Magic", there's zero mention of that. From how the writer described it she's literally just controlling their bodies blood with blood magic, even comparing it to ATLA bloodbender.
I think an easy way to make Nafiri important in a way that doesn't tread on other important darkin's territory *and* tie back into her transformation into the pack mind of the dune hounds is to have her be the *first* Darkin Xolani tricked. Have Xolani promise her the power to lead the other Darkin, more power then any other darkin would receive... If only she would show them the way. If only she would take that first step towards further ascension. If only... She accepted the blood magic.
That way you have reason for her to believe that she was so close to leading the Darkin, and you also tie back into what she became by having her be the "pack leader" for the Darkin's transformation into... Well, the Darkin. You have that first hint of Nafiri symbolizing the unity of the pack by having her be the one that makes the Darkin trust Xolani.
She doesn't have to be extremely powerful to take over a pack, because she was made to *be* a pack from the very start.
Bam, now she's not only got a pretty valid reason to be important, you can have interesting interactions with the other Darkin, as Nafiri was simultaneously the first victim, *and* the one that trapped them as Darkin in the first place.
It'd especially be interesting in terms of her trying to unite them, having to find ways to ether instill trust or force loyalty and grow the pack.
Speaking of that pack, you've also got her little spheal about how everyone is part of one and can think as one, even supposedly independent creatures like humans. That, combined with her desire to grow her pack more, seems to me to hint at her maybe not wanting the same destruction the other Darkin want; the same death and end. She seems more... Collectivist. Like instead of death, she wants to give the Darkin, *her* pack, purpose, in the pack, with the pack, *as* the pack.
This would put her at odds with not just Xolani, for control of the Darkin, but Aatrox as well, as she'd oppose his desire to end their suffering.
I think Nefiri could be potentially very interesting, but ultimately... I have to agree the lore feels rushed. It feels like there was more there they didnt get to write.
Woah its been a while.. NECRIT FACE REVEAL!?
For me, Naafiri saying "i am so powerful i was almost the best" was just self-deception
Like
We only have their words. And all Darkin are very much known as both power hungry and mad.
They passed millenia in a crypt. Rewriting their own memories again and again is probably to be expected at that point.
Aatrox: WAR
Varus: Pestilence
Rhaast: Death
Naafiri: Famine
Coincidence🤔🤔🤔???? ....
oh woah, I had completely forgotten about Omen until you brought his image up lmao!! YEP, WE FINALLY GOT HIM! (a her now)
I think the whole "VERY POWERFUL" spiel is because the story is narrated from each of the darkins point of view. All of them think for themselves that they're the strongest
The whole "Naafiri is the most powerful one" is just her ego.
She's not a reliable narrator.
I was under the impression that her statement about being able to control all the darkin was more of a baseless boost instead of her actually being that powerful.
Do you think they'll bring out the corrupted ascended ? (Corrupted Azir, Xerath, Renekton, Nasus), I feel like since they are based on blood magic ascended, maybe this might be later released?
All the Bios are "false". They are written from the point of view of the protagonist.
Naafiri "believes" to be stronger, but in reality she is "average" compared to them.
Moreover ... If she was strong, she could choose other hosts, like Aatrox who change them continuosly.
the fact you can pet naafiri already makes her the best champ in the game
So, if all Ascended had animal forms, does that mean Darkin should look vaguely animal too? And if Darkin are just crazed ascended with blood magic, would Renekton with blood magic classify him as Darkin?
Smartest man in shurima, picking up eldritch weapons with a long stick and wrapping it in thick (even LEAD-LINED) cloth
One Darkin left for a support role and the Darkin Team is complete.
Wait Necrit so what are you saying is that ppl craft weapons like chalicar (i don't know how it's written) and then seal darkin in it, right? But what about Aatrox's phrase: 'I chose a sword,a noble weapon.' What about that? 🤔
A monster type champ ? Has riot finally stopped their bullshit "good looking shirtless/ cute champ" dynamic ? I guess they probably sold enough skins and reached their money quota for a little while
I'm actually disappointed with her design, not because it's bad one, I mean she is a silly dog, I love that, but they sell her as a monster champion and well... She is not, you can argue that yes and etc but, when I'm thinking about a monster champion in league I would never pick Naafiri as one of them... :'/
I mean they promised a monster design, she looks more like a quite normal dog, saying that Naafiri has a monster design it's like saying that Yumi has one or Anivia, and not just that but the concept or she being a a single being in a lot of hosts, like a collective conscience sounds pretty cool, but in the actually looks it's more like she is an specific dog and the other just follow the leader without mind, they don't seem of equal importance.
The same as I don't think about a monster cat being just a normal cat with an antenna in her forehead and purple , I don't think about a monster dog just being normal dog with blades in her neck and red...