No bragging, but I always do that, and it’s always true, the person always knows something I don’t. That also helps to listen, because you should not assume you know everything the person going to say
I've been Uber driving for about six weeks. I've found that it is a beautiful opportunity to engage in valuable conversations with complete strangers. The key is to be interested in what a man or woman has to say, and to let that man or woman know you are interested. Picking up crumbs of knowledge and dispensing those crumbs is hugely satisfying. Many riders leave my car happier and more satisfied than they were when they climbed in.
This is dumb. He sets this up as some profound piece of wisdom but he’s just joining two ideas that everyone learns in preschool: no one knows everything, no one is perfect. Thus everyone is in a position where they could learn more AND be more fulfilled with their life. People really fall for the most hollow rhetorical trickery when it comes out of JPs mouth.
@@SamPhoenixKnight You'd be amazed to find out how common is to find people that either forgot or ignore those two simple facts. Perhaps you live in a bubble of very reasonable people, or perhaps you just didn't look hard enough to notice it.
@@chuckecheesesbrother5382 You have a choice. All that is required to be a Good person is to be honest and pay attention. All else is personality. Good luck out there.
"...we're trying to pay attention, enough to see if everyone is engaged in the conversation..." 05:44 - There's a shot of the audience. And I had to laugh because there was a girl in a silver jacket with a fluorescent wristband fast asleep. Love it =)
Is it? The only benefit I see is that it saves time, but applying that perspective to all of your conversations means you miss out on learning all kinds of things. Then you're forced to learn the lessons through experience, which takes much longer than the deep conversation would have. I think the nugget of truth at the center of your statement is that we should strive to express ourselves as precisely as possible to avoid misunderstandings. But even when we fail to do so, we can often learn just as much from the misunderstanding if we take time to understand it.
Unbelievable, a Jordan Peterson video without an unrelated clickbait title. Every time I keep thinking he will tell me the meaning of life and I end up learning something else entirely lol
Why would you want to know the meaning of life from a human he is a creature like you he struggles with life like you he have his own problem like you...if you want to know the meaning of life go read God words (allah)
And perhaps that in itself is the meaning 😁 Learning more and more until you've learned so much that you realize logic was after all not what life is about. Life is experience, all thought and logic is pausing life to comment on said experience. Looking for meaning is neglecting life to stick to your notebook all your life finding meaning. Until at last you realize you missed the point completely. How to live happily? Live fully. Stop commenting on everything life has to offer, because you're not fully alive when you're stuck in that notebook. That's why kids are so joyful, why sunsets can be beautiful. Because just for a moment we close that notebook of logic and reasoning and we just embrace the experience. That's all.
@@achraflabdouni5770 those things from pluto? Some ancient satellite that emits frequencies and talks to people and controls half the population on earth?
The equalizing of the audio is phenomenal: all of the earrape frequencies have been blasted up, and the vocal frequencies have been kicked down it seems. TEACH ME THIS
Spent too many years with someone who wouldn't hear me, and would commonly respond with emotionally abusive tactics. Now trying to relearn how to allow others in and have a collaboration and conversation rather than hiding behind the fear and nervously talking about myself. To trust allowing someone to be heard and listened to and take interest in them well, and chance being shut out by another human and made to feel invisible is so hard.
Gross generalisation, that’s probably worse than people trying to connect and have a relatable chuckle at the video. Does not mean these people aren’t getting woke.
I love how he talks about paying the audience attention to see if they’re engaged in the conversation, and the camera cuts to a girl sleeping in the audience at 05:44 XD
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly i learned that unless you tell people: oh yes, i absolutely agree on what you just said in the last (specific amount of time), BUT... they will always assume that you didn't listen to them, or how else could you possibly have a different opinion and view on things. and it really pisses ME off. engaging in conversations is something i really like to do, but apparently most of the people i'm talking to are not interested in opinions that differ from theirs and they will start changing topics before you fully articulated your view of one topic, leaving your arguments incomplete and seemingly weak.
Working with a financial expert could truly set you up for life. I'm delighted I was able to contact my coach Karim .E. Karim earlier this year because while others were busy whining about the downturn I was busy cashing out finally making over 370k only for the first quarter of the year.
Thank you for sharing your success story. I immediately typed in your coach's name to discover him on Google. He's simple to deal with, and his signals are excellent as well.
So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Isaiah 41:10
Every video is about being a better listener and I don't struggle with that. I just don't have anything of value to say. I struggle with starting conversations. I can't just keep starting conversations by asking questions.
I'm quite late to your question. But it becomes an opportunity to not only observe people but to find things about them as a way to establish the connection. It could be ANYTHING. Their hair, or even better, that specific hair clip. That item they're purchasing. Use your surroundings. You could be paying for items at a store or browsing but about to depart from a group of people in an area. Comment on the weather to the group. (good social practice to get you more comfortable with interacting in a less personal way). E.g.. If it's hot,day, y'all stay cool out there. If it's cold, "y'all stay warm". What you'll find is as you do this more (group and one-on-one), people will respond. And you may get the weirdest answers, but it's an opportunity to connect, paired with good intentions/uplifting attitude to any and everyone you meet and they will start to open up like flowers. Sometimes too much. But it's a great way to make an impact in our own way to speak a positive/encouraging word to those we encounter. And you expand your network if that matters to you. My bad for the long answer but I felt like it was a great question because I'm sure many people can relate to that. I hope all is well. ✌🏾
For so many years I had this idea of “I know exactly what the other person would say in a particular conversation” so I don’t have to pay any attention to what they want to say, I think that would work if you know that person for so long that you’ll know what they will say about something. But after this video I started to realize that was totally different and that person likely would say something entirely useful and you could learn from it
The other day i had a great conversation with a guy at a tire shop. About hiswelding carrier. I love it when a guycan just feel comfortable talking about something simple.
Prof P. Jordan, Thank You for being the person you are & taking a firm stand on what you believe, think & feel. You talk straight to the souls of us young man. Thank you 🙏🏾. If you were an army general/commander i'ld join the army straight right away & would die in honour under Ur unshaken command.
Supreme Happiness lol, right! I wonder if future generations will have more socially inept skills due to most conversations occurring through technology.
I was court mandated drink therapy, i did not take it serious just say what you need to tick the boxes was easy. After years of making an absolutely catastrophe of my life it was finding Jordan Peterson’s ideas and philosophy of life has had a huge impact of my life i believe I’m the best I’ve ever been but getting better every day, even though tough times I strive to make whatever the bad evil situation maybe I make it the best it can be
@Nacho until then, watch his videos multiple times. You will gain a lot. Also, here is another video series even better: MEN'S THEOLOGY CLASS (A great biblical resource about REAL manhood ruclips.net/p/PLoVDFR2cdnEFRis2wzx1RzQpIxJkQu_cP This will actually have a therapeutic effect, IF you are receptive! Blessings!
The moment he said he had been watching the audience to check for engagement and the camera spanned the crowd to show a girl passed out from boredom 😂 5:44 It’s so ironic it’s funny.
Dude. You are one of my heros. Your up there with Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. I love listening to yalls points of views. I learn so much from your videos.
It's pretty funny and retarded imo that flipping a video influences copyright. Or does it only adress the issue of detecting copyright flaws auzomatically through algorithms? (I guess that would be at least as interesting though)
@@nadvic1797 mostly avoiding automated algorithms, if a person actually went through the video and realized it's a flipped copy of something else, there wouldn't be much you could do to avoid a copyright strike
Dialectic and Dia-logos (Vervaeke et al). Circling (Sengstock et al). Warm Data Labs (Bateson et al). The Dialectic (Socrates et al). Thesis + AntiThesis = Synthesis (Aristotle et al). We couldn't go wrong by remembering, recovering, immersing, enactive, and embodying one or more if not ALL of these methods, ESPECIALLY since there's NEVER - in a World of Complexity - just one thing or systematized method for doing it, getting there, and educing a thing.
5:38 "We're trying to pay attention to you at least enough to see if everyone is engaged in the conversation" - Camera pans to audience with girl fast asleep 😂😂
Well, that's odd beyond comprehension ... why on earth is perspective switching back and forth? ... first the mic, glass and host are on one side and then the other. Most distracting.
Talking about engagement at the end and there is someone asleep in their chair. Every time I listen to this guy my perception about something is completely flipped. Every time I have some tiny revelation about something that I've never concisely acknowledged
Listening to everyone, really listening and hoping to join them in their perspective regardless of how you feel about them is quite possibly the most difficult, yet admirable traits to earn. I've known a few people that can do this and it really is earned. Its something you work for with years of practice. It requires patience, compassion, understanding, and a deep innate calm. I personally fucking hate people and don't see myself getting there anytime soon, but one can hope!
There are so many gurus out there who promise to turn you into the chief ministers of charisma with psychological tricks and techniques, when, in reality, humility and natural intrigue is the key to any conversation.
Meaningful conversation and seeking wisdom, a fair assumption that its what we want, it seems that a lot of people my self included were just a pile of mouthbreathers bringing our answers and opinions to the table. Now I dont feel so weird about listening with intent to seek someone elses knowledge and seeing how I can use it was what I loved to do. Finding people to have that conversation with is tough most of the time. Life feels like a Zoo of loose animals,( I'm a bird) so I just like listening to your p.o.v. Sometimes I just cant understand your point, but when I do, oh boy, I see the puzzle differently, like my meditations and where they begin in my mind, is so beyond tv or imagination wow, I knew I was connected with God but you helped me confirm that, I live so far north in Ontario that going to another city to see you speak is a serious goal...hoping for Winnipeg on July 9, or was it 29th...hmmm
3:03 - 3:16 ..I have to agree to that.....some people looks like idiots, but sometimes they know something you dont and it is pretty surprising and great
Interesting how the interviewer seems to have acknowledged that engaging with the audience may be an asset given his field of work. He actually shifted his position towards the audience, also, when JP pointed out the reasoning of engaging with them. While JP was talking, he looked something like " You serious? Alright I`ll give it a try, ok, sure, no problem O.o " :))
These are very good plan points to a conversation. How many of us actually have these types of chats. I see, after reflection, it's very rare in my life. I'm to busy trying to walk my path, to stop and smell the flowers.🤔
Sound is shit...Content is INCREDIBLE! "You might think...Unless everything is exactly how you want it to be, then you have something to learn." - Jordan Peterson aka @jordanbpeterson (So fucking brilliant...I love this man.)
Just found this clip and listened and watched and was delighted, as usual, with Prof. Peterson. Then I read the comments. I would say that 90% of them are by people who were so distracted by non-essentials that they completely missed the lessons talked about. So many said the sound was bad, but so what. The voices were still intelligible. If the clip sound quality annoys you to the point of insanity, stop watching! Some saw their counterparts in the audience sleeping, or not engaging, e.g., oh look - Squirrel!!! Didn't like the socks? Who cares what you don't like. Some people enjoy discussions like this and are serious about "learning from conversations." Others, like some of the commenters merely want a free showcase for their disruptive, mean-spirited "jokes" which, unfortunately, are not funny. Peterson, when in his clinical mode, is at his most fascinating and down to earth, and human. Then I have hope for the future.
This is a treasure trove of insights. A book I read recently was equally enriching. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
Peterson is right. The person has to want to be helped and be willing. I've learned that the hard way on more then one occasion that you cannot force it which is difficult if you want to help them badly enough and they are being difficult or even impossible. You care about there well being enough to be a bit aggressive when they forsake themselves and everything that matters and you get less forceful every new person yet when it gets frustrating enough to the point that it feels futile you can get quite amgry about their behavior and its hard to let it go and leave them to their bad choices even if you know that's the only choice they've given you because it feels like your giving up on them but in reality its them who are giving up and you just don't want to sit there and destroy yourself watching them destroy themselves and you.. Which walking away can so very difficult.. Its like the 100 there's a scene where Monty is trying his absolute hardest to change his friend jaspers mind but he is unable to and stays on that track to the bitter end. to be there when jasper drinks a drug that kills himself.. Its a very powerful scene and shows you how bad this situation can get.
"Assume that the person you're listening to knows something you don't."
Perfect.
Even if they know nothing that you already do there is a lot things that they are unconscious about that you can learn.
Read his book on that! It's brilliant!
@@jeremywolf9314 This would take a conscious conversationalist. An aware individual. BRAVO sir!
No bragging, but I always do that, and it’s always true, the person always knows something I don’t. That also helps to listen, because you should not assume you know everything the person going to say
I always try to think like that!
I've been Uber driving for about six weeks. I've found that it is a beautiful opportunity to engage in valuable conversations with complete strangers. The key is to be interested in what a man or woman has to say, and to let that man or woman know you are interested. Picking up crumbs of knowledge and dispensing those crumbs is hugely satisfying. Many riders leave my car happier and more satisfied than they were when they climbed in.
Nothing is more enriching on a business trip than another story of an Uber driver. That's the best part of it as far as I can tell.
Fantastic
@@marekszirdzins Did you get the "as far as I can tell" from Peterson?
Maybe their just happy to be getting out of your car so they don’t have to listen to your bullshit anymore
prefer uber driver to just just shut up & drve. happier when i arrive at destination safe and intact.
"If your life isn't exactly how you want it to be, you have something to learn."
Your life is exactly what you want it to be.
@@zaveeramini9712 /end thread
This is dumb. He sets this up as some profound piece of wisdom but he’s just joining two ideas that everyone learns in preschool: no one knows everything, no one is perfect. Thus everyone is in a position where they could learn more AND be more fulfilled with their life. People really fall for the most hollow rhetorical trickery when it comes out of JPs mouth.
@@SamPhoenixKnight You'd be amazed to find out how common is to find people that either forgot or ignore those two simple facts. Perhaps you live in a bubble of very reasonable people, or perhaps you just didn't look hard enough to notice it.
@@SamPhoenixKnight Many people know these words but they tend to do as you do. Reject internalization of the ideas behind the words.
"A Wise man will always learn more from a fool, than a fool can ever learn from a wiseman"
Perfect words, it resonates my sentiments.
Beautiful
Feel like I'm stuck being a fool 😔
@@chuckecheesesbrother5382 You have a choice. All that is required to be a Good person is to be honest and pay attention. All else is personality.
Good luck out there.
Love it! ❤ thanks for sharing! Who originally said this? I’m assuming it’s not your words, because it’s in quotes…?
This all comes down to a simple line from Desiderata, "Listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant, they too have their story.."
Eh life's too short to listen to the dull...
Even shorter for the ignorant. Ignorance for some people is a constant.
That's why I'm here listening to Peterson.
I won’t listen to them.
It’s a waste of fucking time
I don't waste my time listening to the dull or trying to reason with the ignorant.
Dope sound quality.
The sarcasm is strong with this one
CurbsideUnderwood this one too
Michael more like the sound quality is dope sick
The Dopest......
Fucking brutal
5:43 talking about the audience being engaged in the conversation, girl sleeping front and center (yellow bracelet) lol
I Dunno, yeah I noticed too. Her money and time are wasted from the moment she slept.
...Our time here is completely pointless! he says XD
women.... hehehe
yes she was very noticeable on first watch, and i think a very good example for exactly what petersen was talking about!
Maybe his comment was directed to her specifically. He has said in other videos that he pays attention to individual members of the audience.
"You can't force someone to be better." There are modern social groups who have yet to embrace this understanding.
Marxists know this; it’s not about growing, but cutting down anyone taller than you
My friends
Just finished listening to his book, amazing man
Which one
@Chad He has an audio book
name of book?
@@no.name.huncho215 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson.
And what about "How to better record a conversation"? 😳
Snap
BURN
Daaaaamn
😂😂😂😂😂
🙈🙉🙊
"...we're trying to pay attention, enough to see if everyone is engaged in the conversation..." 05:44 - There's a shot of the audience. And I had to laugh because there was a girl in a silver jacket with a fluorescent wristband fast asleep. Love it =)
😂😂
OMFG THANK YOU. I was just checking to see if there was someone else in the comments who noticed it and said it so that I didn't have to!!! XD!!
That was so funny lmaoo I was looking for this comment xD
I was looking for this comment 😂💯
i scrolled through the comments to see if anyone else thought the same hahah
The girl sleeping killed me🤣🤣🤣
Jajajaja, imagine her reading our comment and talking of it, it eill be amazing
Just right when he was talkong about impirtant is engagement in a conversation xddd
We are so lucky to have Jordan Peterson and grateful that his family shares him with us
you mean that he shares himself with us he is not anyone's property.
Yes, thankful to his family for his time on such works. Such people have very less family time
Bless all of u , because even if you are broken , Stoped , or lost you are here giving your first steps like me , we are toghether in this
sound guy: "How loud do you want your microphones?"
spokespeople: "yes"
😭😭😭😂😂
Hahaha!
Wait, the peak meter isn't supposed to be red or read "+10 db"?
@@manictiger lmaoo
It is always efficient to avoid unnecessary conversations. Avoid excessive words, questions & exaggerations.
Is it? The only benefit I see is that it saves time, but applying that perspective to all of your conversations means you miss out on learning all kinds of things. Then you're forced to learn the lessons through experience, which takes much longer than the deep conversation would have.
I think the nugget of truth at the center of your statement is that we should strive to express ourselves as precisely as possible to avoid misunderstandings. But even when we fail to do so, we can often learn just as much from the misunderstanding if we take time to understand it.
I have slept too in many lectures but if Jordan peterson was talking in front of me I can stay awake for whole day.
5:43
5:45 is priceless. JP taking about how if the crowd isn’t engaged then the conversation is pointless....pan to girl in crowd completely unconscious.
Unbelievable, a Jordan Peterson video without an unrelated clickbait title. Every time I keep thinking he will tell me the meaning of life and I end up learning something else entirely lol
Why would you want to know the meaning of life from a human he is a creature like you he struggles with life like you he have his own problem like you...if you want to know the meaning of life go read God words (allah)
And perhaps that in itself is the meaning 😁
Learning more and more until you've learned so much that you realize logic was after all not what life is about. Life is experience, all thought and logic is pausing life to comment on said experience. Looking for meaning is neglecting life to stick to your notebook all your life finding meaning. Until at last you realize you missed the point completely.
How to live happily? Live fully. Stop commenting on everything life has to offer, because you're not fully alive when you're stuck in that notebook. That's why kids are so joyful, why sunsets can be beautiful. Because just for a moment we close that notebook of logic and reasoning and we just embrace the experience. That's all.
@@achraflabdouni5770 those things from pluto? Some ancient satellite that emits frequencies and talks to people and controls half the population on earth?
The equalizing of the audio is phenomenal: all of the earrape frequencies have been blasted up, and the vocal frequencies have been kicked down it seems. TEACH ME THIS
"if your suffering more than you think is necessary, that means that you are more ignorant than you need to be"
holy shit that was on the nose.
Spent too many years with someone who wouldn't hear me, and would commonly respond with emotionally abusive tactics. Now trying to relearn how to allow others in and have a collaboration and conversation rather than hiding behind the fear and nervously talking about myself. To trust allowing someone to be heard and listened to and take interest in them well, and chance being shut out by another human and made to feel invisible is so hard.
The topic is almost as amazing as how they change seat positions twice in just 6 minutes without ever getting up.
@@977-1 bro duh. It’s a joke
😁 Yeah I was kinda confused at first.
this sounds like my conversations back in mw2
A good conversation is one in which both parties realize their innate uniqueness and equal value.
What are you doing in this planet being so wise. You should be like Jordan Peterson my friend
💀@@ZenCz
A person speaking his mind. A miracle, unbelievable stuff!
People are more concerned with the audio quality rather than the message... smh did u receive the message? I certainly gained insight from the clip.
It genuinely hurts to listen to, I had to stop.
well said! the message is SO crucial
Lol didn't realize it was such an issue. Just lower the volume if it hurts your ears, that's simple enough
Gross generalisation, that’s probably worse than people trying to connect and have a relatable chuckle at the video.
Does not mean these people aren’t getting woke.
TheSpacePyramids chill out bruh not that serious
I love how he talks about paying the audience attention to see if they’re engaged in the conversation, and the camera cuts to a girl sleeping in the audience at 05:44 XD
Really like how he talks and thinks I can't stop watching clips like this and others.
Love how Peterson says "Okay.?" when he doesn't agree. He doesn't outright disagree with you but you know he's not on the same page.
I think if you had write it down the way he says it you'd have to write "Okay.?;"
Agreed and updated
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly i learned that unless you tell people: oh yes, i absolutely agree on what you just said in the last (specific amount of time), BUT... they will always assume that you didn't listen to them, or how else could you possibly have a different opinion and view on things. and it really pisses ME off. engaging in conversations is something i really like to do, but apparently most of the people i'm talking to are not interested in opinions that differ from theirs and they will start changing topics before you fully articulated your view of one topic, leaving your arguments incomplete and seemingly weak.
I love how 5:43 was so engaged that she passed out.
Jordan: "There seems to be a massive and relatively untapped market for actual conversation."
Clubhouse: Oh hi there
Working with a financial expert could truly set you up for life. I'm delighted I was able to contact my coach Karim .E. Karim earlier this year because while others were busy whining about the downturn I was busy cashing out finally making over 370k only for the first quarter of the year.
Thank you for sharing your success story. I immediately typed in your coach's name to discover him on Google. He's simple to deal with, and his signals are excellent as well.
@@jamalraymond1074 I just searched His name on Google and found him easily, how have I been sleeping on this!
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@@elpresidente7569yep and all accounts creted 11 months ago😂😂😂. Very strange
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So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Isaiah 41:10
Amen!❤️
Every video is about being a better listener and I don't struggle with that. I just don't have anything of value to say. I struggle with starting conversations. I can't just keep starting conversations by asking questions.
I'm quite late to your question. But it becomes an opportunity to not only observe people but to find things about them as a way to establish the connection. It could be ANYTHING. Their hair, or even better, that specific hair clip. That item they're purchasing. Use your surroundings. You could be paying for items at a store or browsing but about to depart from a group of people in an area. Comment on the weather to the group. (good social practice to get you more comfortable with interacting in a less personal way). E.g.. If it's hot,day, y'all stay cool out there. If it's cold, "y'all stay warm". What you'll find is as you do this more (group and one-on-one), people will respond. And you may get the weirdest answers, but it's an opportunity to connect, paired with good intentions/uplifting attitude to any and everyone you meet and they will start to open up like flowers. Sometimes too much. But it's a great way to make an impact in our own way to speak a positive/encouraging word to those we encounter. And you expand your network if that matters to you. My bad for the long answer but I felt like it was a great question because I'm sure many people can relate to that. I hope all is well. ✌🏾
For so many years I had this idea of “I know exactly what the other person would say in a particular conversation” so I don’t have to pay any attention to what they want to say, I think that would work if you know that person for so long that you’ll know what they will say about something. But after this video I started to realize that was totally different and that person likely would say something entirely useful and you could learn from it
The girl at 5:44 at bottom of screen looks engaged in the convo
Hahah right!
Bauer Films Hahaha. So true. He says “engaged” & there she is -engaged-😔 ☺️
That's awesome... LOL
Pays to listen to Jordan B Peterson speak...
Sleeps through it...
The other day i had a great conversation with a guy at a tire shop. About hiswelding carrier. I love it when a guycan just feel comfortable talking about something simple.
Prof P. Jordan, Thank You for being the person you are & taking a firm stand on what you believe, think & feel. You talk straight to the souls of us young man. Thank you 🙏🏾. If you were an army general/commander i'ld join the army straight right away & would die in honour under Ur unshaken command.
Chill dude. Let's not form a cult around Jordan Peterson
look how he stares off onto the ground when listening. I’ve seen this before in other people . Gives I’m holier than thou vibes
The sound quality truly amplified those awesome socks... Guess the original sound guy moved up the dominance hierarchy.
Brilliant haha. Yes! He's ascended to become king of lobsters, crustaceans overlord.
Smirk*
The girl at the bottom on 5:43 is timed perfectly with what peterson is saying right there
2019, the year when someone can be inspiring by knowing how to hold a decent conversation...
Supreme Happiness lol, right! I wonder if future generations will have more socially inept skills due to most conversations occurring through technology.
5:44 lady is asleep right as JBP mentions them being engaged in the conversation 😂
I noticed that too 😂
I was court mandated drink therapy, i did not take it serious just say what you need to tick the boxes was easy. After years of making an absolutely catastrophe of my life it was finding Jordan Peterson’s ideas and philosophy of life has had a huge impact of my life i believe I’m the best I’ve ever been but getting better every day, even though tough times I strive to make whatever the bad evil situation maybe I make it the best it can be
"You're not listening" by Kate Murphy. Great book that talks about having better conversations. This video reminded me of it :)
5:44 "we're paying enough attention to see if you're engaged in the conversation" immediately pans to a girl asleep in her chair
Yeah
When there is demand for knowledge. Even the most valuble knowledge can be supplied in the most casual conversations.
What a great conversation
Enjoying conversation is the cheapest luxury ever ,I so enjoy it
5:44 - Does anybody else see the girl sleeping when Jordan talks about people being engaged? I mean, his point is still valid but that is hilarious
If you on the caption bar, just remove it, for you to see the sleeping girl.
I can’t wait till I can afford to have him as my therapist 😂
u d be rich by then, u won t need him! but a nice motive though.
@@thumbsupd5164 rich people still need therapy, don't you think?
thumbs up :D you got the message wrong if you think money is the end all be all
@Nacho until then, watch his videos multiple times. You will gain a lot.
Also, here is another video series even better:
MEN'S THEOLOGY CLASS
(A great biblical resource about REAL manhood
ruclips.net/p/PLoVDFR2cdnEFRis2wzx1RzQpIxJkQu_cP
This will actually have a therapeutic effect, IF you are receptive!
Blessings!
Is it expensive?
Jordan Peterson: “If everyone is engaged in the conversation”
Girl with green bracelet (5:45) :
lol 🤣
The moment he said he had been watching the audience to check for engagement and the camera spanned the crowd to show a girl passed out from boredom 😂 5:44
It’s so ironic it’s funny.
Dude. You are one of my heros. Your up there with Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. I love listening to yalls points of views. I learn so much from your videos.
hahaha
Joe Rogan? Ah haha
5:38 LMAO that fact that someone in the crowd is sleeping while has talking about engagement
Bloody hell thats weird. Why did they flip it
copyright
It's pretty funny and retarded imo that flipping a video influences copyright.
Or does it only adress the issue of detecting copyright flaws auzomatically through algorithms? (I guess that would be at least as interesting though)
@@nadvic1797 mostly avoiding automated algorithms, if a person actually went through the video and realized it's a flipped copy of something else, there wouldn't be much you could do to avoid a copyright strike
Dialectic and Dia-logos (Vervaeke et al). Circling (Sengstock et al). Warm Data Labs (Bateson et al). The Dialectic (Socrates et al). Thesis + AntiThesis = Synthesis (Aristotle et al). We couldn't go wrong by remembering, recovering, immersing, enactive, and embodying one or more if not ALL of these methods, ESPECIALLY since there's NEVER - in a World of Complexity - just one thing or systematized method for doing it, getting there, and educing a thing.
Did anyone else notice the girl asleep at 5:40 hahahahaha just when Jordan was talking about engaging with the audience
5:38 "We're trying to pay attention to you at least enough to see if everyone is engaged in the conversation" - Camera pans to audience with girl fast asleep 😂😂
Well, that's odd beyond comprehension ... why on earth is perspective switching back and forth? ... first the mic, glass and host are on one side and then the other. Most distracting.
teutonicus50bc it’s to avoid an automated copyright strike
Which side is the speaker on, I'm confused
@5:43 that girl looked pretty engaged in her dreams !!
Talking about engagement at the end and there is someone asleep in their chair. Every time I listen to this guy my perception about something is completely flipped. Every time I have some tiny revelation about something that I've never concisely acknowledged
Brilliant insight!! Very thoughtful n dedicated of him to analyse people!
The model outlier ... authentic and oozing the truth about so many aspects of this existence
Listening to everyone, really listening and hoping to join them in their perspective regardless of how you feel about them is quite possibly the most difficult, yet admirable traits to earn. I've known a few people that can do this and it really is earned. Its something you work for with years of practice. It requires patience, compassion, understanding, and a deep innate calm.
I personally fucking hate people and don't see myself getting there anytime soon, but one can hope!
There are so many gurus out there who promise to turn you into the chief ministers of charisma with psychological tricks and techniques, when, in reality, humility and natural intrigue is the key to any conversation.
Meaningful conversation and seeking wisdom, a fair assumption that its what we want, it seems that a lot of people my self included were just a pile of mouthbreathers bringing our answers and opinions to the table. Now I dont feel so weird about listening with intent to seek someone elses knowledge and seeing how I can use it was what I loved to do. Finding people to have that conversation with is tough most of the time. Life feels like a Zoo of loose animals,( I'm a bird) so I just like listening to your p.o.v.
Sometimes I just cant understand your point, but when I do, oh boy, I see the puzzle differently, like my meditations and where they begin in my mind, is so beyond tv or imagination wow, I knew I was connected with God but you helped me confirm that, I live so far north in Ontario that going to another city to see you speak is a serious goal...hoping for Winnipeg on July 9, or was it 29th...hmmm
3:03 - 3:16 ..I have to agree to that.....some people looks like idiots, but sometimes they know something you dont and it is pretty surprising and great
His insight into the Human Condition is amazing
4:56
ohhh that’s why it’s on my recommended
Also we learn just how much we have in common
i have a hard time meeting people and making a connection bc i always feel sort of uninterested and want to be left alone even if i don’t want ti
The sound guy knows "how to ruin a good conversation"
Yeah, he’s like “Oh you think this is all about engagement. Watch me prove that wrong.”
Interesting how the interviewer seems to have acknowledged that engaging with the audience may be an asset given his field of work.
He actually shifted his position towards the audience, also, when JP pointed out the reasoning of engaging with them.
While JP was talking, he looked something like " You serious? Alright I`ll give it a try, ok, sure, no problem O.o " :))
5:40
"-Pay enough attention to you atleast to see if you're engaged in the conversation,"
*shows a sleeping girl
5:44 shoutout to homegirl sleeping it off , while Jordan was talking about "engaging conversations ".
Comments:
%90 about the sound
%9 about the girl in front
%1 quotes from him about the sound
1 comment about the actual interview
And i am here wondering about this guys socks lmao
just try to be benevolent at every word. Easy!
These are very good plan points to a conversation. How many of us actually have these types of chats. I see, after reflection, it's very rare in my life. I'm to busy trying to walk my path, to stop and smell the flowers.🤔
I've been thinking that for longer than I remember.
Shot to the crowd at 5:43, The green bracelet is passed out! Hella' engaged! lol
Knocked
i dont know why but when i literally just repeat words of jordan peterson i feel smarter
"We're paying attention to you to see if everyone is engaged"
*Cameraman points the camera towards a girl who's sleeping*
Sound is shit...Content is INCREDIBLE!
"You might think...Unless everything is exactly how you want it to be, then you have something to learn." - Jordan Peterson aka @jordanbpeterson (So fucking brilliant...I love this man.)
Another interesting video - thanks for posting.
"if everyone's is engaged in the conversation" 5:45 the woman sleeping lol
Just found this clip and listened and watched and was delighted, as usual, with Prof. Peterson. Then I read the comments. I would say that 90% of them are by people who were so distracted by non-essentials that they completely missed the lessons talked about. So many said the sound was bad, but so what. The voices were still intelligible. If the clip sound quality annoys you to the point of insanity, stop watching! Some saw their counterparts in the audience sleeping, or not engaging, e.g., oh look - Squirrel!!! Didn't like the socks? Who cares what you don't like. Some people enjoy discussions like this and are serious about "learning from conversations." Others, like some of the commenters merely want a free showcase for their disruptive, mean-spirited "jokes" which, unfortunately, are not funny.
Peterson, when in his clinical mode, is at his most fascinating and down to earth, and human. Then I have hope for the future.
This is a treasure trove of insights. A book I read recently was equally enriching. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint
How come they switch places in the middle of a sentence?
Lol 5:43 girl in middle row, 4th from the right looks “engaged” 😂
Peterson is right. The person has to want to be helped and be willing.
I've learned that the hard way on more then one occasion that you cannot force it which is difficult if you want to help them badly enough and they are being difficult or even impossible.
You care about there well being enough to be a bit aggressive when they forsake themselves and everything that matters and you get less forceful every new person yet when it gets frustrating enough to the point that it feels futile you can get quite amgry about their behavior
and its hard to let it go and leave them to their bad choices even if you know that's the only choice they've given you because it feels like your giving up on them but in reality its them who are giving up and you just don't want to sit there and destroy yourself watching them destroy themselves and you..
Which walking away can so very difficult.. Its like the 100 there's a scene where Monty is trying his absolute hardest to change his friend jaspers mind but he is unable to and stays on that track to the bitter end. to be there when jasper drinks a drug that kills himself.. Its a very powerful scene and shows you how bad this situation can get.
That scene fucked me up but I could see Jasper was dead for a long time
Man oh man how good this is
5:33 That one lady is sleeping 🤣
Making assumptions about people is a great starting point
I like the color of the couches
5:54 that girl is really engaged in the conversation 😂😂😂😂
did the video get mirrored around 5:15? or am i just crazy?
you are most certainly not crazy!
You crazy
It was flipped intentionally, I believe, because what Jordan was saying at that moment was RUclips can do things that TV can’t.
the last phrase he says was most profound and significant to me