Hybrids have one enormous advantage for work vehicles that is rarely talked about - idling. People spend a lot of time and gallons idling during their work day - heavy traffic, waiting on call, eating lunch, etc - and this creates a lot of pollution and wear on an ICE engine. A hybrid can do much of this off the battery, and this use case is not likely to be reflected in mpg estimates.
ALEX: quick request, when you say things like "the 2.7 is by far my favorite drivetrain..." Please add WHY - those are fleeting moments of insight that are hugely interesting to us. Thank you for all the effort on this channel!
This is a game changer for anyone that owns a half ton towable RV; especially if they like off-grid boondocking. With the onboard generator, and room in the bed for extra water, extra fuel, and supplies, this rig will allow for a great deal of flexibility, insofar as extended stays are concerned.
I don’t know a lot of about this but I’ve seen where this is a 240v and RVs need 110v so it wouldn’t work for RVs. Like I said I know nothing about this, just wondering if you know about these things. Because yes this would be absolutely phenomenal and convince me to buy this truck to tow my RV.
The speed of sync 4 on this truck gives me hope for the sync 4 system on the Mach E. Hopefully all the Mach E needs is a software update to fix its lag issues.
I think you have been immersed in the industry for so long that sometimes the numbers you quote don't really impact you Alex. Four hundred horsepower in a pickup? Five hundred Lb-ft. of torque? The only numbers that are more over the top are the price tags.
Agreed. Well done. I love the idea of the hybrid. I wish Ford would update the interior. I was reminded this weekend how annoying the useless back up knob is. Besides use as a knee stop.
Yes, it will be. I love my new GV80 Prestige but I saw the new 2021 F150 last week and I’m having a little bit of buyer’s remorse. The interiors on the new F150’s are excellent!
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Can't wait for the Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz unibody trucks to joint the much maligned Ridgeline this year. Such a nice quiet ride. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but maybe it will convince RAM to sell the RAM 700 and 1000 in the US, or make a Durango-based competitor to the Ridgeline (the towing capacity would be epic). Better yet, bring back El Camino/Ranchero type vehicles or Australian style Utes. An updated Subaru Baja based on the Forrester rather than the Outback would be cool too.
@@sparkymike83 probably pretty good. Pretty much all Ford models are class leading on noise levels inside. Ford has sound deadening down to a science at this point.
This was an excellent walk-through of the new F150. I just purchased a 2021 GMC Sierra Denali CarbonPro a few weeks ago. The price was too good to pass up (~$13K off MSRP). But the Ford's implementation of the 12" display and the dials around it is very nice. The Hybrid with the 7.2kW option (only $750) is going to be super popular with folks who tow travel trailers. Makes me Jealous. Who knows, later in the year if some good incentives happen (once supply is not an issue) maybe I'll trade in the Denali and switch to Ford. Even though I love the GMC Denali body style
Thanks for the video, Alex. If the F-150 Pro Power On-Board feature is something you will find useful then it's a no-brainer. To a lesser extent, the Max Recline Seats and the Interior Worksurface are very clever and useful for some.
If you could do a longer term F150 hybrid that would be amazing. I definitely would like to know what its like owning especially with it being a brand new powertrain
You might want to check out Tim's Pickup Truck & SUV channel. He just purchased a F150 XLT Powerboost (hybrid) and will be doing tests and reports on it throughout 2021. In fact, he's already started them.
Like you, I think Ford really missed the mark by not offering the hybrid motor with the 8'-bed. Short-bed trucks are useless at the jobsite and, outside of camping, the jobsite is where the built-in generator would be most useful.
just got one two weeks ago and love it. Suprisingly quick. Barely have to push down the accelerator in sport mode and you're at 70. feels like an electric as its virtually silent.
Thanks Alex. The take-away is there has never been a better time than now to get a full size pick-up. Lots of good options from each manufacturer to choose from.
Alex on Autos: I would like to start by thanking you for this honest and thorough review of this truck. I have been interested in seeing how the hybrid F150 turned out. I trust your reviews so much that I literally never buy a vehicle without checking your review of it first. With that said, I have to comment on something based on what was explained in this review that bothers me in general. As pointed out, this F150 (along with non-hybrid F150s) can be bought in configurations that tow as little as 5000lbs. The payload capacity can be optioned to as little as 1300lbs. Assuming that the hybrid's lowest towing/payload capacity is like the standard F150, this would be in the shortbed (5.5 foot), RWD-only models (per axle advisor's towing database). So with that assumption, why would one buy a full-sized truck that only tows 5000lbs, only gets 24mpg highway, and only carries 1300lbs in the bed when literally every mid-sized truck can match or best that performance? Moreover, I doubt there would be anyone out there that would look at such a lowly equipped F150 and say "that's not a truck". Yet the AWD (which would be better than RWD-only in adverse conditions), smoother riding (4 wheel independent suspension), 5000lb towing, 1580lb payload, 28mpg highway Honda Ridgeline is "not a truck". It literally matches or beats those F150 configurations. Yes, I recognize that an F150 or other full-sized truck can be optioned to vastly outperform the Ridgeline and other mid-sized trucks, nobody has ever argued that, but the point is that some people buy the lower optioned F150s/full-sized trucks because they do not need the towing capacity and don't go off-roading. So if you don't need the towing or off-road capacity and go to the length to option a full-sized truck as such (and yes you have to go out of your way, most dealers don't carry those on their lots), why on earth would you do this when any mid-sized truck will give you similar capability for less money and more efficiently, including the much maligned Honda? I mean even the Honda can be purchased with bed outlets to power things (granted no truck can do what this hybrid does in that regard, that is incredible!).
Most people could buy the Honda ridgeline but trucks have become lifestyle vehicles and status symbols. When the neighbor comes home with a brand new XLT trim level you have to go to the Ford dealer and buy a king Ranch just to one up him.
@@slscamg So true, everyone must have their bro-dozer. I live in Northern Wisconsin (and formerly lived in Houghton, MI which averages 200+ inches of snow annually), where AWD and 4x4 are pretty much a necessity, so I don't begrudge anybody a truck when they need a truck. As you stated very well, they have become status symbols. When I see someone driving a lifted, smoke stacked, diesel 3/4 or 1 ton, with huge chrome rims with low-profile tires, pulling their single UTV or John Deere lawn tractor, it is painfully obvious which part of the anatomy did the thinking. Now, if one is a rock crawling, mud bogging, off-road fanatic, definitely buy a Wrangler or Tacoma. If you are towing a large camper/equipment, buy an appropriately capable truck. I guess you and I are the logical ones as opposed to those keeping up with the Jones's.
In general payload gets severely overlooked in F150's. This truck with the sunroof and couple of more options and this truck is actually close to a 1200 pound payload truck. Remember payload includes the passengers and the trailer. A 1200 pound payload truck essentially is a car as it doesn't have usable payload for things like hauling. The guy that owns the 77K f150 hybrid has a wake boat with a 500 pound tongue weight. He cant take his family of 4 to the lake with him with his boat in tow.... Yet everyone remembers that 14K tow rating. Many of the mid sized trucks in fact do have more usable payload and setup. Ford knows this, thats why it is difficult to found out what the payload on a truck is unless you look at the door sticker. Some of the other manufactures have online tools to determine payload but all you ever see from Ford is the marketing numbers. Ask a dealership salesmen, the will likely give you that 3k+ number as they are mostly un-educated.
@@mattnewsom8048 To get really technical, the American truck manufacturers do not publish their SAE J2807 ratings, which are the official towing capacities. They publish their own test data because they typically test work truck packages with option deletes such as no bed liner, no spare tire, rear seat removed, no center console, front bench (manual adjust), manual windows, even no bumpers, etc in order to publish the highest number possible. This is not realistic. For comparison, the J2807 test requires a vehicle with standard equipment. They are tested with 300lbs passenger weight, 100lbs additional equipment, and the lowest axle ratio available, etc for all vehicles. Tests performed include: Launching on a 12% grade 5 times in 5 minutes with the trailer, both forwards and in reverse. Must be able to reach 30mph in 12 seconds or less with trailer. Must be able to reach 60mph in 35 seconds with trailer. They also run an 11 mile long grade in Arizona that is 5% when the outside temp is a minimum of 100 degrees and do so with no trans coolers and with AC turned on max. There are a battery of other grade tests as well, but the point is, the SAE J2807 rating is the largest trailer that the vehicle could pull and perform all tests with no coolant loss, no warning lights, no error codes, etc. So looking at these extreme conditions (look up this test, there are other components even more extreme, including driving up a mountain with trailer at a constant speed, stopping tests, so on and so forth), you can be confident the vehicle can perform the rated towing in almost any circumstances, and in better conditions likely exceed. To date, there is only one truck manufacturer that advertises its J2807 rating, Honda for the Ridgeline, 5000lbs. So the Honda can likely pull just as much as other mid-size trucks if it used the same false tow tricks, but when you get 5000lbs behind a Ridgeline, especially the ones with the optional transmission cooler, you can be damn certain it will haul that 5000lbs to hell and back. Probably why the TFL guys were so surprised by its Ike Gauntlet performance, because the Ike is not even half as hard as what that truck did to achieve its "max" tow rating.
24 is phenomenal compared to what most people get with their 3.5 ecoboost motors. I average 17. 7 mpg is near 50% reduction in fuel. That huge especially for fleets and people whose drive lots of miles.
@@slscamg No arguing that point and you are absolutely correct, but I think the point is more that there are more fuel efficient options available with comparable capability, for less money if the capability is your deciding factor on the truck (I would suggest the diesel RAM 1500 which gets 30MPG for example, or several mid-sized trucks). If one must have an F150 and that is the deciding factor for your purchase, and wants better fuel economy, then this is clearly the winner. Awesome job by Ford regardless as this beats the pants off the prior attempt by Chevy.
29:50 GM clearly wasted all their R&D budget on that silly tailgate, and had no money for the new interior the truck badly needed. No new engines, no new interior, but a new tailgate......Nice!
Alex forgot to mention the Powerboost (hybrid) model is the only F150 which had its GVWR increased by 300#. That means the truck itself is a bit heavier, apples compared with apples, and so not quite as 'jiggly' when the bed is empty. Alex (reasonably) said he preferred a larger hybrid battery (e.g. 4KW). So would we all...but which part of the bed or cabin would he want to surrender to that larger unit? There's an amazing number of 'pieces' in this new Powerboost F150.
The weight increase to 4kWh would be minimal, about 50 pounds. This is less additive weight than a ton of options like the power tailgate and man-step combo.,
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Agreed but you missed the point. The Powerboost has a bit less 'jiggly ride' with an empty bed (see comment further down) because it is - apples to apples - about 470# heavier than a comparable 3.5L drivetrain, according to Ford's spec sheets. That's a meaningful difference in weight, like adding a quarter ton of something in the bed.
@@jacktyler7599 The system doesn't have as much of an effect as you think because most of the added weight is in the front. The additional coolant loops are all before the front axle, the motor and transmission modifications are all more or less above the front axle. Just the battery is in the rear, in front of the rear axle, and it's really not terribly large.
I enjoy seeing you wit come across in your videos. Great review of the F-150. I have long wanted to get a “fun car” once my minivan days are over. However, as i get older, I wonder if having a nice, comfortable truck like the one you’re showing would be better.
I do agree with Alex about the fact that a PHEV version of Ford F-150 would be more useful as towing machine in mountainous areas versus a simple HEV featured in this video. The price of the truck in the video is similar to Lincoln Aviator PHEV; the luxury features are top notch as well. That is a particularly compelling information due to the fact that very Lincoln has already a more powerful hybrid system with a larger battery able to be tweaked into a half ton truck with ease. In addition, Ford could adjust software in existing Lincoln powertrain and install a larger high voltage battery with some thermomanagement system to avoid premature degradation of a such battery used in a working truck. I believe a recipe like one employed in Lincoln will be used by Ford to maintain its lead in this hot pickup truck marketplace.
The F-150 PowerBoost would be awesome as an overlanding vehicle with a camper on the back. You'd never want for power. Unfortunately, it's too pricey so I'm going with a Lariat 501a Sport 4x4.
I hope all hybrids of this type (motor between engine and conventional automatic) start switching to fluid couplings instead of automated start clutches. All of the older ones I've driven are completely horrible in stop-and-go driving. With a torque converter you lose a little efficiency, but you also lose all the shuddering, shaking and bucking!
I really like it, and I want to order a Platinum Powerboost, I just hope it’s reliable. It’s brand new and has has yet to be proven. I’m kinda thinking to give it a few months to see how it pans out. F150 is a good truck, I would think Ford has put plenty of testing in on it.
Finally someone that recognized GM 2-Mode hybrids although they started @~39k so idk about "expensive" especially compared to the starting price on the Powerboost but I guess accounting for inflation it might be a bit lower but not significantly. Now if only GM can bring them back now with their advance 5-mode (based on the Voltec) and maybe a new naming, the ECVT truck concept was pretty interesting
I wonder if they could put a hatch or door at the front of the bed, and use it as a pass through for items longer than five or six feet. Seems as though that would be easy to do if the seats flipped down, but it would probably sacrifice rear seat comfort to configure it that way.
Mmmm "baconing.." I do like the power inverter, but really can't bring myself to the hybrid. If you're not towing, then go with the Ecoboost 3.5. If you need to tow, go with the V8. Lariat, 3.5 FX4 was my choice in 2016. Probably in need of an upgrade soon. Thanks Alex!
Love your reviews, but the wow factor for a hybrid is meh, with 24 MPG. My 2014 5.0l SuperCrew F150 gets 22 mpg on the highway now and it is insanely reliable for a steel bodied truck. I know that is apples to bananas, but still 24 isn't a draw for me, and the rest is meh, as well.
I think they key here is utility from the power in the bed of the truck and city mpg. A lot of people use their trucks in the city where a hybrid will do better. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what engine you have, you are still driving around 6000 pounds the vehicle that is a square. It’s just going to use a lot of fuel.
It must be your elevation/location to only get 24 mpg. I have watched a couple other 60-70 mile highway loops where they get 29.8 mpg going 55 and 70 mph. Ford's trip computer was inaccurate with the MPG, as the old hand calc method yielded those results.
I really hope that when fully electrified it doesn’t use less than 150kw packs as using the 90kw from the significantly smaller Mach-e would be a mistake for a vehicle this big or its uses
It will cost more and more. How would you pay off the gas and hybrid difference. How long will take . Is it worth it pay extra 10 g for hybrid . More complex.
I am very torn. The "average" owner will likely benefit from the resulting lower curb weight, higher towing and payload, and higher fuel economy. However, some users that are "hard" on their truck's bed may do better with a steel bed.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'm very hard on my 2017 F-150, and I bought it used from a precious life working for a concrete contractor. It has some very small dents in the wheel wells but no cuts, cracks, or large dents after 105,000 miles. I was hesitant to get an aluminum truck initially but it's been very good with just a generic cheap spray in bedliner.
Alex, It may not be the best selling Hybrid but it is certainly well on its way to being The Most Hyped Hybrid In America®. Your observed mpg is very disappointing and I do hope you wait for the 8 foot bed to be available with this Hybrid should you decide to acquire one.
Hybrid trucks sound great on paper, but the downside is that with so much bulk and weight (plus if you're towing/hauling anything) adding a hybrid system doesn't really help that much with the MPG elephant in the room. I don't think the Hybrid system makes much sense unless you expect to be using a lot of power for mobile work sites.
In a logical world, city life and fleet owners will see more benefit. The gas used in stop and go, slow and go and extended idle situations is much lower. Towing and steady highway travel aren;t going to see big benefits.
I've owned four F150s since the nineties and this revised model is really nice. However, I don't like the looks of the new didgital dash. It looks kind of childish/silly and would prefer a more serious/professional guage cluster that would at least provide us with options to choose. One other thing on engine choices. The 2.7L should be available on upper trims. I've had it in my last F150 and love that engine. It has plenty of power and gives better MPG than any other choices except the new hybrid. Now a 2.7 Hybrid option would be fantastic!
Alex, do you know if Ford will be putting the hybrid in the extended cab? I want a six foot bed but i don't want the truck to be as long as the Titanic.
Actually, you'll have trouble "baconing" on the go since the shifter cannot be stowed with the vehicle in motion. So you'll have to hold the microwave in your lap.
It would not be surprising if it still worked mostly fine with a depleted battery. If this is the case, one could just use or sell it as a lesser truck in ten years. Then the primary question is the initial cost difference vs fuel savings and other benefits.
This gentleman is giving more information that any other vids I've watched. He's talking so fast. I do not understand him. Not everyone interested in work trucks are men that know all these basic terminologies. Thank you
Pickup is the new SUV, bought primarily by ppl who not only absolutely don't need one but can't drive or park it either, and those who need them to make a living or for sports/hobbies pay the price, twice the price. Here is a free life advice cars just like clothes should fit you and your lifestyle otherwise you will just look silly like someone wearing oversized costume from walmart every damn day
Very sad how GM has fallen quite a bit behind in the pickup world; especially when considering the vastly more limited of Ram's resources. GM still has a gem with the 5.3L but that is pretty much the extent of what it has to offer vs the competition.
Hybrids have one enormous advantage for work vehicles that is rarely talked about - idling. People spend a lot of time and gallons idling during their work day - heavy traffic, waiting on call, eating lunch, etc - and this creates a lot of pollution and wear on an ICE engine. A hybrid can do much of this off the battery, and this use case is not likely to be reflected in mpg estimates.
ALEX: quick request, when you say things like "the 2.7 is by far my favorite drivetrain..." Please add WHY - those are fleeting moments of insight that are hugely interesting to us. Thank you for all the effort on this channel!
The flat folding seats in the front are for a husband who got kicked out by his wife for spending 75k on a truck.😆
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"Have microwave will travel." Alex on autos.
This is a game changer for anyone that owns a half ton towable RV; especially if they like off-grid boondocking. With the onboard generator, and room in the bed for extra water, extra fuel, and supplies, this rig will allow for a great deal of flexibility, insofar as extended stays are concerned.
I don’t know a lot of about this but I’ve seen where this is a 240v and RVs need 110v so it wouldn’t work for RVs. Like I said I know nothing about this, just wondering if you know about these things. Because yes this would be absolutely phenomenal and convince me to buy this truck to tow my RV.
@@slscamg Most half to towable RV's have a 30 amp connection, and there are all kind of adapters available.
@@slscamg You'd have to use a 240v to 110v adapter, which will give you 3.6KW (one half of the 7.2kw) for the RV.
totally agree. RVers now has option to have their own 30 amp service. game changer
I want the 8 ft bed
Wow. There's AoA thorough, and there's Alex actually shopping for a new vehicle thorough. I believe that is in fact all of the information.
The speed of sync 4 on this truck gives me hope for the sync 4 system on the Mach E. Hopefully all the Mach E needs is a software update to fix its lag issues.
This is what i was waiting for, now that ford introduced a hybrid pickup, im want to see toyota bring a prime truck like they did with tge rav4
I think you have been immersed in the industry for so long that sometimes the numbers you quote don't really impact you Alex. Four hundred horsepower in a pickup? Five hundred Lb-ft. of torque? The only numbers that are more over the top are the price tags.
Agreed. Well done.
I love the idea of the hybrid.
I wish Ford would update the interior.
I was reminded this weekend how annoying the useless back up knob is. Besides use as a knee stop.
You should make it the "can it bacon" test standard on every review. I love it..
Yes, it will be. I love my new GV80 Prestige but I saw the new 2021 F150 last week and I’m having a little bit of buyer’s remorse. The interiors on the new F150’s are excellent!
and it will "air-fryer" too! thanks for the review, Alex.
Thank you Alex for imparting some fun in your videos, this is so far the best. Ford F-150 Hybrid: The Baconing
Alex: 'It's not surprising that this F150 is so quiet, because it's body on frame.'
Me: *Stares menacingly at wife's Jeep Wrangler*
Imagine if it was Unibody...
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Can't wait for the Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz unibody trucks to joint the much maligned Ridgeline this year. Such a nice quiet ride. Maybe it is wishful thinking, but maybe it will convince RAM to sell the RAM 700 and 1000 in the US, or make a Durango-based competitor to the Ridgeline (the towing capacity would be epic). Better yet, bring back El Camino/Ranchero type vehicles or Australian style Utes. An updated Subaru Baja based on the Forrester rather than the Outback would be cool too.
@@jg8263 the will be a Ram midsize sooner than later. More than likely based off the Gladiator do they can put a v8 in it.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide how does this new F150 interior noise dampening compare to luxury cars?
@@sparkymike83 probably pretty good. Pretty much all Ford models are class leading on noise levels inside. Ford has sound deadening down to a science at this point.
This was an excellent walk-through of the new F150. I just purchased a 2021 GMC Sierra Denali CarbonPro a few weeks ago. The price was too good to pass up (~$13K off MSRP). But the Ford's implementation of the 12" display and the dials around it is very nice. The Hybrid with the 7.2kW option (only $750) is going to be super popular with folks who tow travel trailers. Makes me Jealous. Who knows, later in the year if some good incentives happen (once supply is not an issue) maybe I'll trade in the Denali and switch to Ford. Even though I love the GMC Denali body style
yes, that 7.2Kw ProPowerOnboard is a game-changer for RVs!
Never thought id say this about a Ford...I want this.
Just did a 72 mile trip and averaged 28.8 mpg!...
Bacon! I'm calling it, Best review of the year
Thanks for the video, Alex. If the F-150 Pro Power On-Board feature is something you will find useful then it's a no-brainer. To a lesser extent, the Max Recline Seats and the Interior Worksurface are very clever and useful for some.
If you could do a longer term F150 hybrid that would be amazing. I definitely would like to know what its like owning especially with it being a brand new powertrain
You might want to check out Tim's Pickup Truck & SUV channel. He just purchased a F150 XLT Powerboost (hybrid) and will be doing tests and reports on it throughout 2021. In fact, he's already started them.
I CANNOT wait for the Raptor version
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Absolutely love my 2021 F-150 Hybrid, it has been a great vehicle so far. Only wish I had the 7.2 KW generator.
Like you, I think Ford really missed the mark by not offering the hybrid motor with the 8'-bed. Short-bed trucks are useless at the jobsite and, outside of camping, the jobsite is where the built-in generator would be most useful.
just got one two weeks ago and love it. Suprisingly quick. Barely have to push down the accelerator in sport mode and you're at 70. feels like an electric as its virtually silent.
curious why did you choose the hybrid over the lightning since it's the same price?
You need to start a new exclusive "Will It Bacon?" Index.
Thanks Alex. The take-away is there has never been a better time than now to get a full size pick-up. Lots of good options from each manufacturer to choose from.
Alex on Autos: I would like to start by thanking you for this honest and thorough review of this truck. I have been interested in seeing how the hybrid F150 turned out. I trust your reviews so much that I literally never buy a vehicle without checking your review of it first. With that said, I have to comment on something based on what was explained in this review that bothers me in general. As pointed out, this F150 (along with non-hybrid F150s) can be bought in configurations that tow as little as 5000lbs. The payload capacity can be optioned to as little as 1300lbs. Assuming that the hybrid's lowest towing/payload capacity is like the standard F150, this would be in the shortbed (5.5 foot), RWD-only models (per axle advisor's towing database). So with that assumption, why would one buy a full-sized truck that only tows 5000lbs, only gets 24mpg highway, and only carries 1300lbs in the bed when literally every mid-sized truck can match or best that performance? Moreover, I doubt there would be anyone out there that would look at such a lowly equipped F150 and say "that's not a truck". Yet the AWD (which would be better than RWD-only in adverse conditions), smoother riding (4 wheel independent suspension), 5000lb towing, 1580lb payload, 28mpg highway Honda Ridgeline is "not a truck". It literally matches or beats those F150 configurations. Yes, I recognize that an F150 or other full-sized truck can be optioned to vastly outperform the Ridgeline and other mid-sized trucks, nobody has ever argued that, but the point is that some people buy the lower optioned F150s/full-sized trucks because they do not need the towing capacity and don't go off-roading. So if you don't need the towing or off-road capacity and go to the length to option a full-sized truck as such (and yes you have to go out of your way, most dealers don't carry those on their lots), why on earth would you do this when any mid-sized truck will give you similar capability for less money and more efficiently, including the much maligned Honda? I mean even the Honda can be purchased with bed outlets to power things (granted no truck can do what this hybrid does in that regard, that is incredible!).
Most people could buy the Honda ridgeline but trucks have become lifestyle vehicles and status symbols. When the neighbor comes home with a brand new XLT trim level you have to go to the Ford dealer and buy a king Ranch just to one up him.
@@slscamg So true, everyone must have their bro-dozer. I live in Northern Wisconsin (and formerly lived in Houghton, MI which averages 200+ inches of snow annually), where AWD and 4x4 are pretty much a necessity, so I don't begrudge anybody a truck when they need a truck. As you stated very well, they have become status symbols. When I see someone driving a lifted, smoke stacked, diesel 3/4 or 1 ton, with huge chrome rims with low-profile tires, pulling their single UTV or John Deere lawn tractor, it is painfully obvious which part of the anatomy did the thinking. Now, if one is a rock crawling, mud bogging, off-road fanatic, definitely buy a Wrangler or Tacoma. If you are towing a large camper/equipment, buy an appropriately capable truck. I guess you and I are the logical ones as opposed to those keeping up with the Jones's.
In general payload gets severely overlooked in F150's. This truck with the sunroof and couple of more options and this truck is actually close to a 1200 pound payload truck. Remember payload includes the passengers and the trailer. A 1200 pound payload truck essentially is a car as it doesn't have usable payload for things like hauling. The guy that owns the 77K f150 hybrid has a wake boat with a 500 pound tongue weight. He cant take his family of 4 to the lake with him with his boat in tow.... Yet everyone remembers that 14K tow rating. Many of the mid sized trucks in fact do have more usable payload and setup. Ford knows this, thats why it is difficult to found out what the payload on a truck is unless you look at the door sticker. Some of the other manufactures have online tools to determine payload but all you ever see from Ford is the marketing numbers. Ask a dealership salesmen, the will likely give you that 3k+ number as they are mostly un-educated.
@@mattnewsom8048 exactly! I work in the auto financing industry and work closely with over 200 dealerships and this statement is spot on.
@@mattnewsom8048 To get really technical, the American truck manufacturers do not publish their SAE J2807 ratings, which are the official towing capacities. They publish their own test data because they typically test work truck packages with option deletes such as no bed liner, no spare tire, rear seat removed, no center console, front bench (manual adjust), manual windows, even no bumpers, etc in order to publish the highest number possible. This is not realistic. For comparison, the J2807 test requires a vehicle with standard equipment. They are tested with 300lbs passenger weight, 100lbs additional equipment, and the lowest axle ratio available, etc for all vehicles. Tests performed include: Launching on a 12% grade 5 times in 5 minutes with the trailer, both forwards and in reverse. Must be able to reach 30mph in 12 seconds or less with trailer. Must be able to reach 60mph in 35 seconds with trailer. They also run an 11 mile long grade in Arizona that is 5% when the outside temp is a minimum of 100 degrees and do so with no trans coolers and with AC turned on max. There are a battery of other grade tests as well, but the point is, the SAE J2807 rating is the largest trailer that the vehicle could pull and perform all tests with no coolant loss, no warning lights, no error codes, etc. So looking at these extreme conditions (look up this test, there are other components even more extreme, including driving up a mountain with trailer at a constant speed, stopping tests, so on and so forth), you can be confident the vehicle can perform the rated towing in almost any circumstances, and in better conditions likely exceed. To date, there is only one truck manufacturer that advertises its J2807 rating, Honda for the Ridgeline, 5000lbs. So the Honda can likely pull just as much as other mid-size trucks if it used the same false tow tricks, but when you get 5000lbs behind a Ridgeline, especially the ones with the optional transmission cooler, you can be damn certain it will haul that 5000lbs to hell and back. Probably why the TFL guys were so surprised by its Ike Gauntlet performance, because the Ike is not even half as hard as what that truck did to achieve its "max" tow rating.
All that work for 24 mpg? That’s hysterical 🤣🤣🙃
It has the aerodynamics of a brick with wheels
And the payload and towing can be as low as 1300 and 5000lbs, so maybe buy any mid-sized truck (other than the Tacoma) for that fuel economy.
24 is phenomenal compared to what most people get with their 3.5 ecoboost motors. I average 17. 7 mpg is near 50% reduction in fuel. That huge especially for fleets and people whose drive lots of miles.
@@slscamg No arguing that point and you are absolutely correct, but I think the point is more that there are more fuel efficient options available with comparable capability, for less money if the capability is your deciding factor on the truck (I would suggest the diesel RAM 1500 which gets 30MPG for example, or several mid-sized trucks). If one must have an F150 and that is the deciding factor for your purchase, and wants better fuel economy, then this is clearly the winner. Awesome job by Ford regardless as this beats the pants off the prior attempt by Chevy.
@@slscamg pickuptrucks plus just bought the 3.5 hybrid getting 16.9 on highway
This gets more like 18 in the real world.
29:50 GM clearly wasted all their R&D budget on that silly tailgate, and had no money for the new interior the truck badly needed. No new engines, no new interior, but a new tailgate......Nice!
They just released an incredible new interior
@@SkinnySkinch Because they saw the Ram and knew they %$#@ed up
The high-Amp generator is Genius.
Darn... and I was about to commit to a 2021 Honda Ridgeline... Thanks!!!
I just filled my Hybrid up and my DTE is 645 miles on 30 gallons 21/CC/LB/lariat 4x4.
An interesting truck. I can see that it would develop a following with its power, features, additional versatility and price.
Alex, it is red enough. No need to wrap it for me. I will drive from east bay to pick it up ;)
My favorite part was the microwave starting and then you went into a full-recline :-P
Great looking and functional instrument cluster.
Alex forgot to mention the Powerboost (hybrid) model is the only F150 which had its GVWR increased by 300#. That means the truck itself is a bit heavier, apples compared with apples, and so not quite as 'jiggly' when the bed is empty. Alex (reasonably) said he preferred a larger hybrid battery (e.g. 4KW). So would we all...but which part of the bed or cabin would he want to surrender to that larger unit? There's an amazing number of 'pieces' in this new Powerboost F150.
The weight increase to 4kWh would be minimal, about 50 pounds. This is less additive weight than a ton of options like the power tailgate and man-step combo.,
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Agreed but you missed the point. The Powerboost has a bit less 'jiggly ride' with an empty bed (see comment further down) because it is - apples to apples - about 470# heavier than a comparable 3.5L drivetrain, according to Ford's spec sheets. That's a meaningful difference in weight, like adding a quarter ton of something in the bed.
@@jacktyler7599 The system doesn't have as much of an effect as you think because most of the added weight is in the front. The additional coolant loops are all before the front axle, the motor and transmission modifications are all more or less above the front axle. Just the battery is in the rear, in front of the rear axle, and it's really not terribly large.
Love the f150 even more now
I think Plug In hybrids would be the best truck. A bigger battery that can be charged and benefits of a gas engine at high speeds.
Having a really tough time deciding between this (Powerboost) and a Ram EcoDiesel ... sounds like Alex would choose the Ford?
I enjoy seeing you wit come across in your videos. Great review of the F-150. I have long wanted to get a “fun car” once my minivan days are over. However, as i get older, I wonder if having a nice, comfortable truck like the one you’re showing would be better.
I'm between the f150 hybrid and the upcoming tundra hybrid. Not making a decision until both are available.
Need to add the exclusive Bacon Comfort Index next time.
I do agree with Alex about the fact that a PHEV version of Ford F-150 would be more useful as towing machine in mountainous areas versus a simple HEV featured in this video. The price of the truck in the video is similar to Lincoln Aviator PHEV; the luxury features are top notch as well. That is a particularly compelling information due to the fact that very Lincoln has already a more powerful hybrid system with a larger battery able to be tweaked into a half ton truck with ease. In addition, Ford could adjust software in existing Lincoln powertrain and install a larger high voltage battery with some thermomanagement system to avoid premature degradation of a such battery used in a working truck. I believe a recipe like one employed in Lincoln will be used by Ford to maintain its lead in this hot pickup truck marketplace.
The F-150 PowerBoost would be awesome as an overlanding vehicle with a camper on the back. You'd never want for power. Unfortunately, it's too pricey so I'm going with a Lariat 501a Sport 4x4.
Very good review, as usual! I agree the Hybrid f150 is a very interesting new option.
7:18 Perfect cut scene after the crunch. hahaha
I hope all hybrids of this type (motor between engine and conventional automatic) start switching to fluid couplings instead of automated start clutches. All of the older ones I've driven are completely horrible in stop-and-go driving. With a torque converter you lose a little efficiency, but you also lose all the shuddering, shaking and bucking!
I really like it, and I want to order a Platinum Powerboost, I just hope it’s reliable. It’s brand new and has has yet to be proven. I’m kinda thinking to give it a few months to see how it pans out. F150 is a good truck, I would think Ford has put plenty of testing in on it.
Finally someone that recognized GM 2-Mode hybrids although they started @~39k so idk about "expensive" especially compared to the starting price on the Powerboost but I guess accounting for inflation it might be a bit lower but not significantly. Now if only GM can bring them back now with their advance 5-mode (based on the Voltec) and maybe a new naming, the ECVT truck concept was pretty interesting
I could microwave my sausage biscuit on the way to work. Potentially the best truck ever.
I wonder if they could put a hatch or door at the front of the bed, and use it as a pass through for items longer than five or six feet. Seems as though that would be easy to do if the seats flipped down, but it would probably sacrifice rear seat comfort to configure it that way.
The bacon bite scene… it’s gold Jerry !!
probably the best commercial ever ... a PU that can cook bacon for you.
Looks like at the 5:50 mark the microwave may have overloaded the circuit >>>>> as it lost power. BACON POWER TO ALL. Great videos Alex
Let's see what kind of hybrid Ranger/Everest Ford will bring to our Australia
I want the 8 ft bed. Don’t need the crew cab either, just super cab. Is that possible in the hybrid?
Mmmm "baconing.." I do like the power inverter, but really can't bring myself to the hybrid. If you're not towing, then go with the Ecoboost 3.5. If you need to tow, go with the V8. Lariat, 3.5 FX4 was my choice in 2016. Probably in need of an upgrade soon. Thanks Alex!
Mmmm, bacon! Thank you Alex, now I’m hungry.
Love your reviews, but the wow factor for a hybrid is meh, with 24 MPG. My 2014 5.0l SuperCrew F150 gets 22 mpg on the highway now and it is insanely reliable for a steel bodied truck. I know that is apples to bananas, but still 24 isn't a draw for me, and the rest is meh, as well.
I think they key here is utility from the power in the bed of the truck and city mpg. A lot of people use their trucks in the city where a hybrid will do better. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what engine you have, you are still driving around 6000 pounds the vehicle that is a square. It’s just going to use a lot of fuel.
Using a truck for work I eat my lunch in it everyday the idle time alone would be a huge savings.
It must be your elevation/location to only get 24 mpg. I have watched a couple other 60-70 mile highway loops where they get 29.8 mpg going 55 and 70 mph. Ford's trip computer was inaccurate with the MPG, as the old hand calc method yielded those results.
I'd like to see one based on the 2.7L ecoboost that is more geared towards fuel economy.
I wonder if they fixed the 5.0 oil consumption in the 2021 version.
Ford must love you...microwave bacon? 🤣. LOL! Good review, BTW!
They should rename it the Ford Baconator!
Brilliant innovation by Ford. Any data on fuel consumption when using the 120 volt inverter generator feature at say, 2,000 watt load?
would you rather have this or the GM turbo diesel?
All Ford need to do is make a Lincoln version of F150 with Aviator interior along with some exterior styling and price it around $80K starting.
I really hope that when fully electrified it doesn’t use less than 150kw packs as using the 90kw from the significantly smaller Mach-e would be a mistake for a vehicle this big or its uses
Why do I imagine my wife pulling away from the house with the cord still attached.
It will cost more and more. How would you pay off the gas and hybrid difference. How long will take . Is it worth it pay extra 10 g for hybrid . More complex.
Tremendous crunch on that bacon.
Thank you for framing this hybrid as you have... Planet Earth thanks you. ❤️🌎
Alex, would you pick a lower trim f150 stx over a top of the line 2021 ridgeline? I dont tow or go off road. Just lots of travel baseball games
So, is the RAM pickup truck going to have a Hybrid engine? Thank you again for your videos and Happy New Year. Roger
Alex, I’d wait for a larger battery, or Rivian😜
Rivian lol.
I want this system in an Expedition Max.
Alex, thanks for the review. Nice truck. What is your opinion, thoughts, on the aluminum body parts???
I am very torn. The "average" owner will likely benefit from the resulting lower curb weight, higher towing and payload, and higher fuel economy. However, some users that are "hard" on their truck's bed may do better with a steel bed.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'm very hard on my 2017 F-150, and I bought it used from a precious life working for a concrete contractor. It has some very small dents in the wheel wells but no cuts, cracks, or large dents after 105,000 miles. I was hesitant to get an aluminum truck initially but it's been very good with just a generic cheap spray in bedliner.
2021 your truck builds a house and drives itself : ) Massages you and cooks breakfast.
Alex, It may not be the best selling Hybrid but it is certainly well on its way to being The Most Hyped Hybrid In America®. Your observed mpg is very disappointing and I do hope you wait for the 8 foot bed to be available with this Hybrid should you decide to acquire one.
It's a half-ton truck with a 7.2kWh generator...I don't think mpg is the biggest consideration here.
24 mpg city for half ton pickup is huge.
Hybrid trucks sound great on paper, but the downside is that with so much bulk and weight (plus if you're towing/hauling anything) adding a hybrid system doesn't really help that much with the MPG elephant in the room. I don't think the Hybrid system makes much sense unless you expect to be using a lot of power for mobile work sites.
In a logical world, city life and fleet owners will see more benefit. The gas used in stop and go, slow and go and extended idle situations is much lower. Towing and steady highway travel aren;t going to see big benefits.
A review on this engine after 50k miles will be very interesting
I've owned four F150s since the nineties and this revised model is really nice. However, I don't like the looks of the new didgital dash. It looks kind of childish/silly and would prefer a more serious/professional guage cluster that would at least provide us with options to choose. One other thing on engine choices. The 2.7L should be available on upper trims. I've had it in my last F150 and love that engine. It has plenty of power and gives better MPG than any other choices except the new hybrid. Now a 2.7 Hybrid option would be fantastic!
The microwave bacon should be part of his measure for all hybrid and electric vehicles. “Will it bacon?” Hahaha
Alex, do you know if Ford will be putting the hybrid in the extended cab? I want a six foot bed but i don't want the truck to be as long as the Titanic.
Actually, you'll have trouble "baconing" on the go since the shifter cannot be stowed with the vehicle in motion. So you'll have to hold the microwave in your lap.
My next truck.
This hybrid makes sense for overlanding.
IT WILL BACON!!!
Has anyone done a longevity and cost of replacing the battery pack vs fuel saving cost analysis?
Not to mention the hybrid option cost.
It would not be surprising if it still worked mostly fine with a depleted battery. If this is the case, one could just use or sell it as a lesser truck in ten years. Then the primary question is the initial cost difference vs fuel savings and other benefits.
👀🙌🏾👏🏽
It’s a small battery 1.5 kWh so I’d guess it’s around same as Prius and others with similar size.
The battery hybrid system is warranted for 8 years or 100,000 miles.
Americas favourite truck and also mine
I wonder why Natural Gas Vehicle never promoted on hooking a grille or BBQ?
This gentleman is giving more information that any other vids I've watched. He's talking so fast. I do not understand him.
Not everyone interested in work trucks are men that know all these basic terminologies.
Thank you
You towing that trailer got 2mpg better than I get in my 4.7 dakota unloaded. Thing drinks like it's free.
How long could the generator theoretically last? As long as there’s gas in the tank?
Ford estimates 35 hours of continuous use at 7.2kw/h. A year late, but better than never!
And that's at max power continuously
Pickup is the new SUV, bought primarily by ppl who not only absolutely don't need one but can't drive or park it either, and those who need them to make a living or for sports/hobbies pay the price, twice the price. Here is a free life advice cars just like clothes should fit you and your lifestyle otherwise you will just look silly like someone wearing oversized costume from walmart every damn day
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏾💯 so tru ... Took a man 10 mins to whip his f250 in the parking space at Wal-Mart ...he gave up and parked at the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ...
Very sad how GM has fallen quite a bit behind in the pickup world; especially when considering the vastly more limited of Ram's resources. GM still has a gem with the 5.3L but that is pretty much the extent of what it has to offer vs the competition.
Bacon makes everything better but 24 mpg seems low. I’ll wait for a Tundra hybrid.
Is the cabin noise dampening comparable to luxury cars like Lexus?