Excellently done. I've been saying for ages that I need to build something like that, but never seem to get around to it! The shackle is a very good idea. If I might make one suggestion, it would be to put some small eyebolts into the ends of the wood blocks so they can be tied to one another with some rope. Not to keep them secure in use, but simply to keep them together. I always "misplace" little things, and took a page from the military when they tie pairs of wheel chocks together so they can grab the rope and pull the chocks free with one tug. It makes stowing the blocks a lot easier, too, because you can just hang them from a nail in the wall, or wrap them up in a bundle to stash in the tool box.
This helped me get my first bottles home safely. The store clerk was impressed, like he must see some sketchy stuff from the DIY crowd. I ended up creating a double crib setup for holding two tanks and used 3 of those bolt on trailer D rings to secure the tanks to the cribbings in a similar fashion to how you ran yours, with the middle D ring being a downward redirect. I then strapped the whole rig down to the truck bed. It passed the ain't going nowhere test. Thanks!
You never know, this method works for a lot of different things. I tie down lumber in the same fashion. At any rate, thank you for taking the time to watch.
2 years ago I was in Seattle working in the tech industry... now I off road 2 hours through central Mexican jungle with these tanks for my gas cooking stove a couple times a year. Change is the only constant in life. Eyes to the horizon till you fall to the floor🍻
🛫📖🛬 Hey Colin, Just thinking out loud, You may not have the need to use the saddles but now you have the knowledge and you can always share that with somebody that might have the need ❓
much oblige for making this video today I was loading cylinder gas into my truck and I was petrified although I had put two rachet straps on it. I knew it was not secure. thank you Ben
I'm just going to say, if you are transporting a single tank like this then this is likely fine provided you find a way to keep it from moving (saddles and such), but commercial gas supplier truck transport them standing up, with the tanks chained or secured to the walls of the cab depending on how much they're transporting (which is a lot by the way). Sometimes the tanks are placed inside special racks, like about 16 tanks to a rack and are hoisted to construction sites. Those trucks transporting gas tanks are specially made for the job. Because if you're transporting a LOT of tank at once it's really impractical to transport it this way. Or you should have hard points on your truck bed that you chain the tank solidly against (like at the cab end of the bed) so it absolutely CANNOT roll around.
Nice video but you can eliminate the shackles, just complete the circle 180 degrees around the bottle with the strap. Start at the top. As you tighten the strap it will choke up on it. This eliminates the stress points on the strap at the shackle. Just doing that alone the bottle cant move. I also dont bother fabricating wooden holders, just use a rubber mat, one size fits all.
You can, but it can be a little tricky sometimes. The straps have to be routed in opposite direction to counteract the twisting force of each strap. You also have to tighten one a little, then the second one a little before you can start to bear down on the strap. If you don’t, the load can have a tendency to turn. The rubber is a good idea, but it doesn’t offer much clearance to wrap the straps around the load. I like this method a lot better, and it can be applied to a wide variety of cargo.
brilliant vid Ben, I've been strapping my CO2 bottles for the brewery like that but I'm definitely going to make a set of those saddles. top work. cheers 🍻
This is a very useful DIY rig for transporting oxygen, argon or CO² welding compressed gas cylinders. There is one additional procedure that must be followed, without exception, when it becomes necessary to transport an acetylene cylinder on it's side because acetylene cylinders are different than most other cylinders in a couple of ways. First being the pressure of 200-250 psi vs 2200-2400 psi of other gasses when full. Second and most importantly acetylene cylinders have a porous honeycomb -like material inside, which is saturated with a predetermined amount of acetone , which the acetylene is dissolved into and released when the cylinder is in use, because acetylene in it's pure form becomes dangerously unstable and likely to have explosive reactions when compressed to more than 15 psi. With this in mind, the cylinder must be set upright for a least one hour, and at least 2 hours for the larger cylinders before use, to allow the acetone a chance to settle. If you were to use the cylinder right away after laying on it's side, the acetone would be drawn out into the regulator and torch, possiblly damaging rubber seals in the process, and most critically, allow a void where the acetylene can compress without the acetone, and the cylinder could undergo exothermic reactions and detonate without warning.
Old truck driver told me to put the ratchet on the passenger side so if you need to make adjustments on the side of the road you are not standing in traffic
If you have two straps wrapped opposite of each other. By wrapping the strap in that method, it will want to turn the load sideways against the pressure of the strap. If you have a second wrap to counteract that twisting motion it will make the load stable.
Wrong-O Bubba. Your instructor was clueless. Acetylene because you would have to leave it vertically overnight (which nobody will do) or the acetone can come out. Just laying it on it's side will not make it explode but there is a big danger iof getting caught and paying a whopping big fine. Same with ANY compressed gas bottle. Don't ever let OSHA or the DOT/Highway Patrol catch you or you will have the big hurt put on you.
🛫📖🛬 Hey Ben, Excellent video and I thank you very much. Just got through making my saddles and I need to ask you a question. I went to your link to Amazon but I'm curious. Just what size shackle is the one in your hand ❓ Thanks a lot for teaching us knuckleheads a better way 🙏 📖🛐✈️🐆🐝🐝🐝
I enjoyed the video, and good idea. However, there is a lot of liability for transporting cylinders horizontally. If someone goes wrong and the valve breaks off, you got a missle headed out of town. I'd much rather have it headed underground. That said, it is really tricky to mount a cylinder vertically on most standard pickup beds or trailers.
No question that is a completely safe way to transport an oxy bottle,,,,,and also an OAHA and I believe ICC violation and defiantly a State DOT violation in most states to boot. They do not permit portable compressed gas cylinders to EVER be anything but vertical with the exception of very short times when they are being handled or hoisted. - Not my idea and I think it is balls out stupid, but it's the law and a BIG dollar violation. = Love thy neighbor, but don't get caught. OH,,,,,Don't ask me how you store towmotor propane upright and use then horizontally. ..... All I see is the only reason is because OSHA says so. (They make me sick)
Oh my god. I had a city inspector walk in one day. We have Argon, 75/25, CO2 and oxygen bottles laying all over the floor and she had a problem with the oxy/acetylene bottles that were chained to the wall with regulators and she wanted me to unchain them because they were in use. So I proceeded to start taking the regulators off and put caps on them and she said no. Then you can leave them chained to the wall. 😳😳😳 Needless to say, I capped the acetylene bottle and laid it down that made her eyes bulge, I giggled then locked the door behind her.
3/4" D Shackles - amzn.to/3tWljHt
Great Video. I’m extremely grateful for people like yourself that share their years of knowledge all of us on RUclips. Thank you Sir !!
You’re quite welcome, I hope this proves to be useful for you someday.
Excellently done. I've been saying for ages that I need to build something like that, but never seem to get around to it! The shackle is a very good idea. If I might make one suggestion, it would be to put some small eyebolts into the ends of the wood blocks so they can be tied to one another with some rope. Not to keep them secure in use, but simply to keep them together. I always "misplace" little things, and took a page from the military when they tie pairs of wheel chocks together so they can grab the rope and pull the chocks free with one tug. It makes stowing the blocks a lot easier, too, because you can just hang them from a nail in the wall, or wrap them up in a bundle to stash in the tool box.
I moved my gas cylinder this way in the back of my truck more than 250 miles. The bottle never moved an inch. Thank you.
This helped me get my first bottles home safely. The store clerk was impressed, like he must see some sketchy stuff from the DIY crowd. I ended up creating a double crib setup for holding two tanks and used 3 of those bolt on trailer D rings to secure the tanks to the cribbings in a similar fashion to how you ran yours, with the middle D ring being a downward redirect. I then strapped the whole rig down to the truck bed. It passed the ain't going nowhere test. Thanks!
If there is any chance you took a picture of how you set up that rigging, I would love to see it.
You're supposed to give it a few slaps and then say, "That's not going anywhere."
Never have or will have the need to do this but thoroughly enjoyed this anyways!
You never know, this method works for a lot of different things. I tie down lumber in the same fashion. At any rate, thank you for taking the time to watch.
2 years ago I was in Seattle working in the tech industry... now I off road 2 hours through central Mexican jungle with these tanks for my gas cooking stove a couple times a year.
Change is the only constant in life. Eyes to the horizon till you fall to the floor🍻
🛫📖🛬
Hey Colin,
Just thinking out loud,
You may not have the need to use the saddles but now you have the knowledge and you can always share that with somebody that might have the need ❓
@@chuckcampbell3927 that is so true
much oblige for making this video today I was loading cylinder gas into my truck and I was petrified although I had put two rachet straps on it. I knew it was not secure. thank you Ben
I'm just going to say, if you are transporting a single tank like this then this is likely fine provided you find a way to keep it from moving (saddles and such), but commercial gas supplier truck transport them standing up, with the tanks chained or secured to the walls of the cab depending on how much they're transporting (which is a lot by the way). Sometimes the tanks are placed inside special racks, like about 16 tanks to a rack and are hoisted to construction sites. Those trucks transporting gas tanks are specially made for the job.
Because if you're transporting a LOT of tank at once it's really impractical to transport it this way. Or you should have hard points on your truck bed that you chain the tank solidly against (like at the cab end of the bed) so it absolutely CANNOT roll around.
Nice video but you can eliminate the shackles, just complete the circle 180 degrees around the bottle with the strap. Start at the top. As you tighten the strap it will choke up on it. This eliminates the stress points on the strap at the shackle. Just doing that alone the bottle cant move. I also dont bother fabricating wooden holders, just use a rubber mat, one size fits all.
You can, but it can be a little tricky sometimes. The straps have to be routed in opposite direction to counteract the twisting force of each strap. You also have to tighten one a little, then the second one a little before you can start to bear down on the strap. If you don’t, the load can have a tendency to turn. The rubber is a good idea, but it doesn’t offer much clearance to wrap the straps around the load. I like this method a lot better, and it can be applied to a wide variety of cargo.
@@txtoolcrib
Your answer is spot on. Your method has simplified and smoothed out a lot of unnecessary trouble.
"WORK SMARTER NOT HARDER"
Thanks Ben
brilliant vid Ben, I've been strapping my CO2 bottles for the brewery like that but I'm definitely going to make a set of those saddles.
top work.
cheers 🍻
Our ranch is way off grid and across a river. Had a propane bottle that size get loose a while ago!
Great video thanks bud.
this method will help guide me to transporting my scuba cylinders around safer, thanks. also storing them safer at home too, vertically of course
Thanks for the tips. Enjoyed watching.👍👍
This is a very useful DIY rig for transporting oxygen, argon or CO² welding compressed gas cylinders.
There is one additional procedure that must be followed, without exception, when it becomes necessary to transport an acetylene cylinder on it's side because acetylene cylinders are different than most other cylinders in a couple of ways. First being the pressure of 200-250 psi vs 2200-2400 psi of other gasses when full. Second and most importantly acetylene cylinders have a porous honeycomb -like material inside, which is saturated with a predetermined amount of acetone , which the acetylene is dissolved into and released when the cylinder is in use, because acetylene in it's pure form becomes dangerously unstable and likely to have explosive reactions when compressed to more than 15 psi. With this in mind, the cylinder must be set upright for a least one hour, and at least 2 hours for the larger cylinders before use, to allow the acetone a chance to settle. If you were to use the cylinder right away after laying on it's side, the acetone would be drawn out into the regulator and torch, possiblly damaging rubber seals in the process, and most critically, allow a void where the acetylene can compress without the acetone, and the cylinder could undergo exothermic reactions and detonate without warning.
Old truck driver told me to put the ratchet on the passenger side so if you need to make adjustments on the side of the road you are not standing in traffic
Extremely useful and important information
Simple and very effective. Thank you for the video.
Absolutely, thank you for taking the time to watch.
Great video, thanks for creating and sharing. Super beneficial.
Thank you.
Great concept but you didn't show how hard it was to get the blocks under the tank! I like the strapping method...never seen that before.
Great job ben..thank you
You can belly wrap the bottle.
What if you just wrap arount the bottle one turn with the belt instead of D chackle?
If you have two straps wrapped opposite of each other. By wrapping the strap in that method, it will want to turn the load sideways against the pressure of the strap. If you have a second wrap to counteract that twisting motion it will make the load stable.
If you have a strong chain handy, then just cut off one link out of it and use it instead of the D-shackle
I was taught in welding school to never put acetylene on its side , it could cause volatile issues even possibly explosion
Oxygen no problem though
Wrong-O Bubba. Your instructor was clueless. Acetylene because you would have to leave it vertically overnight (which nobody will do) or the acetone can come out. Just laying it on it's side will not make it explode but there is a big danger iof getting caught and paying a whopping big fine. Same with ANY compressed gas bottle. Don't ever let OSHA or the DOT/Highway Patrol catch you or you will have the big hurt put on you.
Excellent!
This was dope!
Thank you very much!
We transport vertically.
It's the law, Both federal and state
Thank you Sir
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Hey Ben,
Excellent video and I thank you very much.
Just got through making my saddles and I need to ask you a question.
I went to your link to Amazon but I'm curious.
Just what size shackle is the one in your hand ❓
Thanks a lot for teaching us knuckleheads a better way 🙏
📖🛐✈️🐆🐝🐝🐝
I left a link in my pinned comment at the top of the comment section. This is a 3/4” D shackle which works perfect on 2” straps.
@@txtoolcrib
Thank you Ben
Awesome!
I thought that liquified gas tanks had to be stored and transported upright to minimise the risk of leakage
This isn’t liquid oxygen.
@@txtoolcrib all the companies in my country transport all cylinders standing up
Which is ideal, but sometimes you are unable to transport vertically.
Damn smart!!
Acetylene cylinders must be transported vertically.
Usually, but there are times you not able to transport them vertically. In which case, they must stand for 6 times longer than they were laid down.
I enjoyed the video, and good idea. However, there is a lot of liability for transporting cylinders horizontally. If someone goes wrong and the valve breaks off, you got a missle headed out of town. I'd much rather have it headed underground. That said, it is really tricky to mount a cylinder vertically on most standard pickup beds or trailers.
jus belly wrap em
sounds ok except you need to transport these tanks vertical not laying down spare me
Need to be kept from moving is what the D.O.T. requires . Should be vertical in use .
Within this much time ,,we transport 50 cylinder
No question that is a completely safe way to transport an oxy bottle,,,,,and also an OAHA and I believe ICC violation and defiantly a State DOT violation in most states to boot. They do not permit portable compressed gas cylinders to EVER be anything but vertical with the exception of very short times when they are being handled or hoisted. - Not my idea and I think it is balls out stupid, but it's the law and a BIG dollar violation. = Love thy neighbor, but don't get caught.
OH,,,,,Don't ask me how you store towmotor propane upright and use then horizontally. ..... All I see is the only reason is because OSHA says so. (They make me sick)
Oh my god. I had a city inspector walk in one day. We have Argon, 75/25, CO2 and oxygen bottles laying all over the floor and she had a problem with the oxy/acetylene bottles that were chained to the wall with regulators and she wanted me to unchain them because they were in use. So I proceeded to start taking the regulators off and put caps on them and she said no. Then you can leave them chained to the wall. 😳😳😳 Needless to say, I capped the acetylene bottle and laid it down that made her eyes bulge, I giggled then locked the door behind her.