Boy, you are magic about releasing videos just ahead of when I need the information. My project to replace 15 windows clients will best be done by cloning drives.... Merry Christmas!
@@handmedowntech Yep. I guess I have a little advantage today cause I'm the boss and a little disadvantage cause I suffered through the early days, and can't help trying to see if the modern tools work better than they did 25 years ago.
I think the first time I tried cloning disks to refresh clients was still in the Netbeui Boot Disk era. Still solidly in the booting from DOS era, definitely before Windows for Workgroups 3.11, which was the first actual windows, a number of years before Win 95, which actually worked. 10 years before "broadband- alway on" I'd say 1990 to 1992. It was a computer training lab, where paying students would "learn" word, excel skills to "get a better job..." They needed to refresh the computers (I figure 386 compaq ibm pc clones) for the software they were teaching. Even then they were worried about shitheads leaving viruses and whatnot, and they only had tiny hard drives if any, and we were booting to DOS, then loading "Windows" on top.
We used Ghost (later Norton Ghost, Later Symantec Ghost... basically exactly the same as clonezilla.) But first we had to get a "network" together, get the "slaves" speaking with a "master" which was the unholy 'Netbeui Boot Disk," booting from a Dos 6 disk with "Netbeui" to recognize some peer computer over whatever ungodly Novel or IBM token ring peer network they cobbled together. All this is before there were ethernet or IP addresses and whatnot.
We got it to work, at least enough to get paid, but if we got paid for 50 hours of work, it took us maybe 500 (I'll never live long enough to be repaid for the many, many lost nights), and I'd bet a paycheck that it didn't operate for 6 months. Shortly after, there was Windows for Workgroups 3.11, which actually sort-of worked to make peer networks, and a few years later windows 95 which actually DID work.
Very fortunate that your G3 can boot from the NVMe m.2 slot, making it a relatively seamless transition. I had looked into upgrading my ProDesk 600 G2 but all signs point to that generation only bootable from the SATA 2.5" drive. Btw, SSD manufacturers will usually include a free vendor-locked copy of a disk imaging program like Macrium Reflect or MiniTool Partition Wizard so that you can clone your existing disk to your new SSD directly from within Windows. Merry Christmas!
@@alansmithee.01Feliz Navidad! I'll have to try booting from M.2 on the EliteDesk 800 G2 to see if it has the same issue. I haven't been as successful with the cloning inside of Windows vs outside and clonezilla.
You mileage may vary. Sometimes after you clone from SATA to NVME and try to boot from NVME you get a blue screen. The solution is to wait until you get the recovery options and then choose to boot into safe mode. Then after you boot into safe mode, boot back into normal mode and it should boot from NVME no problem.
I have been looking in to different recovery options for the g5 mini I can clean install windows 10 or 11 or download the recovery image from hp using there software or use sure recover that will do it from the cloud or if you make your own image you can link the image to the sure recovery in the bios and it will restore that image loads of options
@@stevenbell9589 I've played with trying to do windows drive mirroring but setting up the recovery partition was always tricky and I never seemed to get it right.
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Merry Christmas!
And a Merry Christmas to you. Hoping for RAM under your tree. Thanks!
Boy, you are magic about releasing videos just ahead of when I need the information. My project to replace 15 windows clients will best be done by cloning drives.... Merry Christmas!
@zincfive That is a thankless job. If it works people don't notice. But if it fails, oh boy.
@@handmedowntech Yep. I guess I have a little advantage today cause I'm the boss and a little disadvantage cause I suffered through the early days, and can't help trying to see if the modern tools work better than they did 25 years ago.
I think the first time I tried cloning disks to refresh clients was still in the Netbeui Boot Disk era. Still solidly in the booting from DOS era, definitely before Windows for Workgroups 3.11, which was the first actual windows, a number of years before Win 95, which actually worked. 10 years before "broadband- alway on" I'd say 1990 to 1992. It was a computer training lab, where paying students would "learn" word, excel skills to "get a better job..." They needed to refresh the computers (I figure 386 compaq ibm pc clones) for the software they were teaching. Even then they were worried about shitheads leaving viruses and whatnot, and they only had tiny hard drives if any, and we were booting to DOS, then loading "Windows" on top.
We used Ghost (later Norton Ghost, Later Symantec Ghost... basically exactly the same as clonezilla.) But first we had to get a "network" together, get the "slaves" speaking with a "master" which was the unholy 'Netbeui Boot Disk," booting from a Dos 6 disk with "Netbeui" to recognize some peer computer over whatever ungodly Novel or IBM token ring peer network they cobbled together. All this is before there were ethernet or IP addresses and whatnot.
We got it to work, at least enough to get paid, but if we got paid for 50 hours of work, it took us maybe 500 (I'll never live long enough to be repaid for the many, many lost nights), and I'd bet a paycheck that it didn't operate for 6 months. Shortly after, there was Windows for Workgroups 3.11, which actually sort-of worked to make peer networks, and a few years later windows 95 which actually DID work.
Very fortunate that your G3 can boot from the NVMe m.2 slot, making it a relatively seamless transition. I had looked into upgrading my ProDesk 600 G2 but all signs point to that generation only bootable from the SATA 2.5" drive.
Btw, SSD manufacturers will usually include a free vendor-locked copy of a disk imaging program like Macrium Reflect or MiniTool Partition Wizard so that you can clone your existing disk to your new SSD directly from within Windows.
Merry Christmas!
@@alansmithee.01Feliz Navidad! I'll have to try booting from M.2 on the EliteDesk 800 G2 to see if it has the same issue. I haven't been as successful with the cloning inside of Windows vs outside and clonezilla.
You mileage may vary.
Sometimes after you clone from SATA to NVME and try to boot from NVME you get a blue screen.
The solution is to wait until you get the recovery options and then choose to boot into safe mode.
Then after you boot into safe mode, boot back into normal mode and it should boot from NVME no problem.
@@ytguy2010 Agreed. I've had more luck with booting SSDs so I was pleased it worked on the first try. I think having the same sized drives is key.
I have been looking in to different recovery options for the g5 mini I can clean install windows 10 or 11 or download the recovery image from hp using there software or use sure recover that will do it from the cloud or if you make your own image you can link the image to the sure recovery in the bios and it will restore that image loads of options
@@stevenbell9589 I've played with trying to do windows drive mirroring but setting up the recovery partition was always tricky and I never seemed to get it right.
@handmedowntech using sure recovery sorts all that but puts windows 10 on it
sata iii m.2 ssd 2080 don't work on g3 just to note
@@tyfp3854 interesting. I'll have to check that out.