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Why do you lie to your viewers. It in no way obliterates metal. I have a 50w fiber laser and it doesn't obliterate metal. Get real dude it's cheap garbage.
Sam, props to you on saying that the M4 is NOT a fiber laser, even though everywhere on Aliexpress this thing is named as a fiber laser. Is that an issue to me? Hell no, it works, it's portable, it does what it's meant to. I'm saving money to buy that beauty and every single tool that I have (either on my personal workshop or at the company that I work) is going to be marked. Not only that, the amount of things that can be custom made with this tool is out of the charts. Currently, the amount of videos on this machine is very sparse, and yours did it justice, thanks for the content.
@@TLAS Wikipedia: "A fiber laser (or fibre laser in British English) is a laser in which the active gain medium is an optical fiber doped with rare-earth elements such as erbium, ytterbium, neodymium, dysprosium, praseodymium, thulium and holmium. " So, a fiber laser is NOT a diode laser.
Hey Sam, as someone who has no real need for any laser engraver/cutters, I still watch because I find your videos very educational and just fun to watch. But you do have me second guessing myself -- do I need a laser engraver? :) -Steve
Great video, a clear, detailed and fair/honest take on the product. I’m curious how much material is actually removed - how much relief is there (etc, how deep is the cut) on say the slate coaster after all the passes? Ditto the metals after 4 passes? A side note: I wonder if it would be slightly faster dialing down the speed a bit more on materials, rather than taking two or 4 passes? I’m thinking that multiple passes mean that the metal surface completely cools before the laser comes around again for the next pass. I wonder if you could do copper in 1 pass if you slowed the laser down to say 80 - 100 mm/s? 4x slower would be ~63 mm/s, but I’m thinking that you might not need 4x the time if it was just heating the spot all in one go, rather than letting it cool fully before the next pass comes along? Probably not a significant difference in overall production time, but I’m curious how it would work out.
Been waiting on you to review this one, as I've been looking at something to mark metals with. I'm sure lightburn will have it incorporated in the software before too long, they're really good with their support. The only thing I see on this that I'm not terribly happy with is the working size, 70mm is pretty small, I'll just have to see what size things I'm really going to work with and go from there. I'm pretty sure the Atomstack would have issues actually cutting metals, where a proper fiber laser can actually do that (at least from my research anyway, I don't have any practical experience with fiber/galvo yet). Still, the detail you got out of this thing on your examples is outstanding.. Wonder how long it'll be before someone figures out how to use this with a rotary, lol.
The handle to adjust the height is really crap.For me also feels very loose and rough really not nice. but if you turn all the screws too tight then you can no longer turn.I use for my other laser also lighburn have therefore also informed me and even seen a statement that the m4 should also work with it then.hope the update is there soon because that would make the M4 Really good.the software puts me before problems because many files are not supported.In addition, I do not like it so well that the information about the device is often wrong.It is often spoken of 20w which is wrong. He hatt also not 5w he has 3w.Yes, and you're right, it's not a fiber laser, which would be extremely expensive in this small device if it were possible.
As I sit here thinking how I could use one of these to make money and learn a new trade too, any places to go and learn more about these things and how to use and afford one, Later
Sam, Thanks for the video. I have absolutely no experience with any laser engravers or cutters. This gives me all kinds of ideas, and just something more for me to research with a possibility of buying sometime in the future (when we are actually living at our new property). I have years of experience with cad programs, mostly autocad, so hopefully some of the stuff I have access to for dxf files could help. Thanks again for the video, and hoping you all have a Merry Christmas!
DOES IT HAVE A MOBILE APP TO USE IT FOR. LIKE LASERPECKER MOBILE APP. I DONT LIKE BEING ON COMPUTERS TO DO THE LASER ENGRAVING. I LIKE TO DO EVERYTHING ON MY PHONE. DONT WANT TO BE COOPED UP BEHIND A COMPUTER ALL DAY. I likr being portable when working at home. Computers aint portable. Laptops aint portable enough. Pc is definetly not. MOBILE PHONES IS THE ONLY PORTAABLE DUE TO USING MOBILE APPS.
1:04: ⚙️ Compact and powerful Atomstack M4 laser engraver with 5W laser, 1064nm wavelength, and versatile desktop or handheld use. 3:34: ⚙️ Issues with machine operation and limited flexibility in positioning piece, but includes useful features like threaded inserts and machine screws. 6:48: 🔍 Limitations of the laser engraver software and CAD program make it difficult to use and lack user-friendly features. 9:39: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a laser engraver, emphasizing the importance of safety glasses and the working surface size. 13:00: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a metal laser engraver to outline and mark text on a business card in real time. 16:35: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal, including adjusting settings and creating a PCB-like design. 20:27: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal surfaces, including cards and coasters, with a focus on speed and efficiency. 25:41: ⚙️ Laser engraver performance with different metals and materials at varying speeds and passes, affecting heat dissipation and power requirements. 28:30: 🔍 The debate over whether the laser is a fiber laser or a galvo laser, and the hesitation to label it as such. Recapped using Tammy AI
My mom was a surgical laser engineer for Johnson and Johnson. I completed a trade school course for sheet metal fabrication in the early nineties. Our class went to trade shows with equipment that cut with lasers IN THE EARLY 90'S. I had visions of a future filled with lasers. Construction workers with laser chopsaws for example. It never happened and never will. You know why?...because nobody gives a crap about Construction workers Because they're laborers. It's unskilled work so it has no value...until you have to replace it that is. Ok maybe a laser chop saw isnt practical...but why are people still treated like donkeys? Couldn't an rc bot carry shingles or lumber? If it could then it could lay the shingles,frame the wood, or hang and mud sheetrock. Give it a clip loaded with hardware to shoot. A battery powered rechargeable rover at least. So much tech available to everyone but the people that do the hardest work for the least money at the greatest cost...their health. Funny how the people that build your American dream are deemed not worthy of it. Don't bother integrating any of these ideas into your construction crew because future homes will be pooped out of a 3d printer. It's all stupid because the laborer won't end up paying for his broken body when it fails. We will... In the form of higher taxes. So that's why there's no tech available for laborers. Not because it isnt possible or available but because NOBODY gives a crap about laborers. We had better start giving a crap if we want any of our check to make it home...just sayin.
Your video is absolutely amazing and it really caught my attention. However, I don't believe that this product can offer the same level of attraction as your video did. Describing a laser marker that can only make shallow marks as versatile is not a good right guidance. I have tried similar small machines before and while they are convenient, their limitations make me want to throw them away. They cannot engrave, which is a must-have for me to mark my logo on my knives. It takes at least an hour to do the job and the result is often unsatisfactory. I am not sure how this product differs from LaserPecker. If I were to choose, I would go for LaserPecker instead of this product that has been labeled as "Absolutely terrible" on Amazon. It doesn't seem like a reliable machine and their after-sales service is probably not very professional. I would recommend EM-Smart instead, even though there may be a price difference. They are true fiber laser marking machines with the ability to engrave on metals and various materials. Their service is excellent and always provide me with great support.
I didn't see you wipe the slate clean prior to running the laser so I think the little dots were from dust particles. I could be waaaaay off base here but that's what my opinion is and you know we all got one. Yes, I had my glasses on.... Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Peace
I have the Mr Carve M1, ComMarker 20w Fiber, and a Omtech 100w MOPA Fiber. I backed the Mr Carve on Kickstarter, it was my first 1064nm laser. To be clear, you are correct, the AtomStack isn't a fiber laser. It is a 2w 1064nm (DPSS) diode attached to a galvo head. The Mr Carve shipped with SeaCAD as well. There is a steep learning curve when it comes to using SeaCAD and EZCad, they are very similar in operation. Mr Carve was first out of the gate with a 1064 Galvo, this looks very similar to Mr Carve M2. I would bet that they share practically everything, minus the shell. The Atomstack looks identical to the Enjoywood M4. However, even though this isn't a fiber laser, it is using traditional fiber laser type software. I would suggest people be educated on the software before jumping into the 1064 Galvo and or Fiber lasers.
Been waiting on this video. You did not disappoint. If it is 1064, isn’t that an ir laser with galvo. XTool is coming out with F1 that has ir and blue diode working with galvo, but I would go with atomstack. I’ve heard their customer service is better. Great thorough video. I want a SamCraft flashlight. Lol
Hi Sam, nice to see more videos coming. I found this really interesting then all your content is interesting. You could not ask for more from this review with the content covered. An excellent laser but as you say there are some limitations. The way to solve the limitations is as you showed be creative around that.
Just subscribed to your channel your videos are very informative and super cool. I have been 3D printing for a few now. It's time up the game. In the market for a laser that can engrave / print on metal. This particular laser the Atomstack M4 has stuck out! Other than the 💩software that everyone is having issues with it seems like. What I'm trying to do is not that hard. More less personalizing flat metal objects with names and maybe a little logo. How hard is it to change a jpg to a dfx? Or an image? Have you played around with SeaCad 5.0. any advice? Thanks Sam stay crafty 🤣
There are a few online converter sites that seem to be okay at converting to the DXF format. If you're in the market for a machine like this, be sure to look at the Genmitsu Z5-1 and the xTool F1. They're both better than this one, with the xTool being top tier with their dual laser setup (blue light and infrared) and accessories.
I had a similar laser system for a short time (Mr. Carve M1). It works great on plastics, and marking metal, but it won't engrave to any real depth, even with hundreds of passes. I returned it and bought a fiber laser with a 50w JPT source, and the difference was unbelievable. The material that the smaller laser struggled to mark were cut completely through when I tried full power. If you're needing to actually engrave metal, not just mark it, get a "real" fiber laser and save yourself some time and effort.
Very thorough review, thank you. Is there a system like this for engraving wood? I like the no gantry and small footprint. I'm a wood worker and I currently use a branding iron and can never get consistent results on small objects. Like my working hand logo.
That laser is a DPSS (Diode Pumped Solid State) machine. Has a diode pumped passive YAG q switch that puts out 15KW (microsecond) pulses that are 1024nm. For the price point, about 1/4 of a 20W-30W fiber, it's not a terrible deal but it is, as you say, pretty low power and has a small working area. Something for you to try: Defocus upward (away from the work surface not toward it) between 1-4 millimeters, with an actual fiber laser you can get colors on metal and enhanced engraving depending on what you want to do.
Wouldldn't you use some type of anchor to hold your piece flat to the surface so it is level and won't move with the expanchion heat from the workings of machine?
Nice review. I have had people wanting me to engrave on back of watch or on metal security badge that I had to tell them my CO2 would not do that. This may be something to explore. Thank you
Great review. I have been keeping an eye on the M4 for a while now, but just haven't seen a review that covered all of my questions. Until Now !! .. After watching this, I am happy to know that it will do all the materials that my diode laser will not do. Your review pushed me over the tipping point on getting one. Until I saw the price :( ... The link you provided shows (US) $1699 + shipping, but here in Australia the M4 on Amazon is selling for $3000+ ... The M4 on Aliexpress is going for around $2000 (AU), but then I would put the extra towards a full blown 50w Fiber Laser with multiple lenz from 75 - 300mm from Alliexpress.
SAM i would like you to do a video on your slate paint it black what ever color you want and just see how it works or what it does. just wondering PRESTON
Why didn't you do different speeds on the metal?? You did them all at 300mm also running it at 100 all the time won't it shorten the lasers life like on the DIODE.
some assembly required batteries not included for 1699. however thats a dc power jack this can be ran off a battery on a tailgate at trade shows flea markets swap meets the pasture making tags for animals. im sure ts indexable for larger works too. but the price is way more then most people would spend with out some way to make the money back
do you know how to engrave an image like the tiger they advertise on their amazon listing for this machine? i tried importing normal images but it engraves very light and super slow. i also tried converting to a dxf after making the image grayscale and increasing the contrast but the results make it look like a normal vector graphic missing lots of key details instead of a high quality image
stock up on those flashlights I'm gonna need a bunch for next years Christmas... I have I think 20 or even more grands and great nieces and nephews I can get these for...
Ya know all those drill bits and drivers ya get where once it's out of the canister it came in you have to put a mic on to see what size they are? This would be fantastic just for a guy/gal who wanted to label all those for him/her self.
Sam, great video sir! I like that laser. I just have to comgrow 10w and it does pretty well with Lightburn. Have you seen the last update for LightBurn. I think 1.3.0. that may what you're looking for. I hope so. Thanks for the great video. God bless!
The definition of a fiber laser is the laser used a doped fiber as the gain medium. It *could* be a fiber laser, the spool of gain fiber would be inside the box but the chances of that are slim to none. It is most likely just a more generic DPSS laser, possibly using some passive q-switching to get the high peak power, unless there is a frequency setting some place.
Sure you can! The max working size is 70mm. Also check out my video about the new Genmitsu Z5-1. It is MUCH better than this machine! ruclips.net/video/dqF7fbCeRcA/видео.html
NICE hat Sam. If it weren't for that really small area for engraving ... However if you don't have to reposition to fit the entire pattern in it.. great! As for that 5 watt limit ... a larger engraving region with a larger wattage of say 10 or 20 watt.... I believe the marriage of 5 watts and limited region is pretty much perfect but being able to enlarge the limits probably would be problematic for this type of lens/laser combo. Hang on - it does have its application niche.
A thought comes to mind. Once Lightburn will drive this engraver, by adding a reasonably accurate X-Y stage, you could layout a checkerboard type layout of squares and engrave each square from a different layer. Jus a thought 🧐
That banding didn't look like what you normally get on curved surfaces. ie my co2 would have had a slow graduation and not a line . to me it seemed more of a machine/software fault especially as it happened on the very start of the 1st move.
Awesome machine, and good review, shame glass wasn't included. I want one, but way out of my price range though as I just mess about with laser engraving.
Great video. Thanks for doing an in-depth review and calling out the "fiber laser" marketing. I think I'll pick one up for engraving small bronze blanks.
Hi Sam, thank you for the review and showing the examples. Too bad there are limitations regarding organic materials. I am curious how working with glass as a medium would work. I have never used this type of product so it really has peaked my interest. Thank you again for this video.
Couldn't you take it mounted on it's base and use the holes in the base to attach it sturdly to the larger sideways piece your trying to engrave while supporting it by hand. I think this would keep your museles form getting tired of holding it instead of using it with the cone on it?
Right, nice demonstration. Question, you can feel the engraving, material is vaporized. For my own health I don’t want to be in surroundings where vaporized aluminium is in the air. I like the result, Ilike the process, I like your explanations. Should’nt fume exhaust/suction be setup?
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Why do you lie to your viewers. It in no way obliterates metal. I have a 50w fiber laser and it doesn't obliterate metal. Get real dude it's cheap garbage.
Sam, props to you on saying that the M4 is NOT a fiber laser, even though everywhere on Aliexpress this thing is named as a fiber laser. Is that an issue to me? Hell no, it works, it's portable, it does what it's meant to. I'm saving money to buy that beauty and every single tool that I have (either on my personal workshop or at the company that I work) is going to be marked. Not only that, the amount of things that can be custom made with this tool is out of the charts. Currently, the amount of videos on this machine is very sparse, and yours did it justice, thanks for the content.
Thank you, I really tried my best to be 100% honest and think of this machine as a customer would vs. an advertiser. :)
Miss Angela and the boys, we need her to do a cooking show or something so we can see her too. Hope your feet are doing better!
Hey, so is this laser a fiber or just a galvo diode?
A fiber laser is comprised of diode lasers passing through a fiber optic cable and manipulated by a galvo system.
@@TLAS Wikipedia: "A fiber laser (or fibre laser in British English) is a laser in which the active gain medium is an optical fiber doped with rare-earth elements such as erbium, ytterbium, neodymium, dysprosium, praseodymium, thulium and holmium. " So, a fiber laser is NOT a diode laser.
Hey Sam, as someone who has no real need for any laser engraver/cutters, I still watch because I find your videos very educational and just fun to watch. But you do have me second guessing myself -- do I need a laser engraver? :) -Steve
I appreciate that and take it as a huge compliment. :)
Tks for the great review. You'd think it would engrave on varnished wood? And does it do anything on glass/ceramic? Tks.
This would be beautiful for custom design 🖊 pens
Totally would!
Great video, a clear, detailed and fair/honest take on the product.
I’m curious how much material is actually removed - how much relief is there (etc, how deep is the cut) on say the slate coaster after all the passes? Ditto the metals after 4 passes?
A side note: I wonder if it would be slightly faster dialing down the speed a bit more on materials, rather than taking two or 4 passes? I’m thinking that multiple passes mean that the metal surface completely cools before the laser comes around again for the next pass. I wonder if you could do copper in 1 pass if you slowed the laser down to say 80 - 100 mm/s? 4x slower would be ~63 mm/s, but I’m thinking that you might not need 4x the time if it was just heating the spot all in one go, rather than letting it cool fully before the next pass comes along? Probably not a significant difference in overall production time, but I’m curious how it would work out.
Would you recommend this over the LaserPecker?
Nice, honest review. Looking forward to your future projects with this non-fiber laser.
You and me both!
How deep will this go into anodized aluminum? Will it get to 0.003 inches deep?
From what I heard the Rip Software kinda Sucks!!!
Been waiting on you to review this one, as I've been looking at something to mark metals with. I'm sure lightburn will have it incorporated in the software before too long, they're really good with their support. The only thing I see on this that I'm not terribly happy with is the working size, 70mm is pretty small, I'll just have to see what size things I'm really going to work with and go from there. I'm pretty sure the Atomstack would have issues actually cutting metals, where a proper fiber laser can actually do that (at least from my research anyway, I don't have any practical experience with fiber/galvo yet). Still, the detail you got out of this thing on your examples is outstanding.. Wonder how long it'll be before someone figures out how to use this with a rotary, lol.
My opinion is that it is made to engrave jewelry and other small material
Bummer it doesn't work on Wood, but how it did on that small round flashlight was impressive.
You should add those to your family store...just sayin.
This video is by far the best and most intuitive,I have this machine and you have helped me incredibly especially regarding SEACAD.thankyou.
The handle to adjust the height is really crap.For me also feels very loose and rough really not nice. but if you turn all the screws too tight then you can no longer turn.I use for my other laser also lighburn have therefore also informed me and even seen a statement that the m4 should also work with it then.hope the update is there soon because that would make the M4 Really good.the software puts me before problems because many files are not supported.In addition, I do not like it so well that the information about the device is often wrong.It is often spoken of 20w which is wrong. He hatt also not 5w he has 3w.Yes, and you're right, it's not a fiber laser, which would be extremely expensive in this small device if it were possible.
As I sit here thinking how I could use one of these to make money and learn a new trade too, any places to go and learn more about these things and how to use and afford one, Later
Sam, Thanks for the video. I have absolutely no experience with any laser engravers or cutters. This gives me all kinds of ideas, and just something more for me to research with a possibility of buying sometime in the future (when we are actually living at our new property). I have years of experience with cad programs, mostly autocad, so hopefully some of the stuff I have access to for dxf files could help. Thanks again for the video, and hoping you all have a Merry Christmas!
Happy to be of help in any way! Merry Christmas to you too!
DOES IT HAVE A MOBILE APP TO USE IT FOR. LIKE LASERPECKER MOBILE APP. I DONT LIKE BEING ON COMPUTERS TO DO THE LASER ENGRAVING. I LIKE TO DO EVERYTHING ON MY PHONE. DONT WANT TO BE COOPED UP BEHIND A COMPUTER ALL DAY. I likr being portable when working at home. Computers aint portable. Laptops aint portable enough. Pc is definetly not. MOBILE PHONES IS THE ONLY PORTAABLE DUE TO USING MOBILE APPS.
1:04: ⚙️ Compact and powerful Atomstack M4 laser engraver with 5W laser, 1064nm wavelength, and versatile desktop or handheld use.
3:34: ⚙️ Issues with machine operation and limited flexibility in positioning piece, but includes useful features like threaded inserts and machine screws.
6:48: 🔍 Limitations of the laser engraver software and CAD program make it difficult to use and lack user-friendly features.
9:39: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a laser engraver, emphasizing the importance of safety glasses and the working surface size.
13:00: ⚙️ Demonstration of using a metal laser engraver to outline and mark text on a business card in real time.
16:35: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal, including adjusting settings and creating a PCB-like design.
20:27: ⚙️ Demonstration of laser engraving on metal surfaces, including cards and coasters, with a focus on speed and efficiency.
25:41: ⚙️ Laser engraver performance with different metals and materials at varying speeds and passes, affecting heat dissipation and power requirements.
28:30: 🔍 The debate over whether the laser is a fiber laser or a galvo laser, and the hesitation to label it as such.
Recapped using Tammy AI
That is a really cool machine. I am sure you will get a lot of work out of it. Merry Christmas to you and your family..
Thanks, you too!
My mom was a surgical laser engineer for Johnson and Johnson. I completed a trade school course for sheet metal fabrication in the early nineties. Our class went to trade shows with equipment that cut with lasers IN THE EARLY 90'S. I had visions of a future filled with lasers. Construction workers with laser chopsaws for example. It never happened and never will. You know why?...because nobody gives a crap about Construction workers Because they're laborers. It's unskilled work so it has no value...until you have to replace it that is. Ok maybe a laser chop saw isnt practical...but why are people still treated like donkeys? Couldn't an rc bot carry shingles or lumber? If it could then it could lay the shingles,frame the wood, or hang and mud sheetrock. Give it a clip loaded with hardware to shoot. A battery powered rechargeable rover at least. So much tech available to everyone but the people that do the hardest work for the least money at the greatest cost...their health. Funny how the people that build your American dream are deemed not worthy of it. Don't bother integrating any of these ideas into your construction crew because future homes will be pooped out of a 3d printer. It's all stupid because the laborer won't end up paying for his broken body when it fails. We will... In the form of higher taxes. So that's why there's no tech available for laborers. Not because it isnt possible or available but because NOBODY gives a crap about laborers. We had better start giving a crap if we want any of our check to make it home...just sayin.
Your video is absolutely amazing and it really caught my attention. However, I don't believe that this product can offer the same level of attraction as your video did. Describing a laser marker that can only make shallow marks as versatile is not a good right guidance. I have tried similar small machines before and while they are convenient, their limitations make me want to throw them away. They cannot engrave, which is a must-have for me to mark my logo on my knives. It takes at least an hour to do the job and the result is often unsatisfactory. I am not sure how this product differs from LaserPecker. If I were to choose, I would go for LaserPecker instead of this product that has been labeled as "Absolutely terrible" on Amazon. It doesn't seem like a reliable machine and their after-sales service is probably not very professional. I would recommend EM-Smart instead, even though there may be a price difference. They are true fiber laser marking machines with the ability to engrave on metals and various materials. Their service is excellent and always provide me with great support.
I didn't see you wipe the slate clean prior to running the laser so I think the little dots were from dust particles. I could be waaaaay off base here but that's what my opinion is and you know we all got one.
Yes, I had my glasses on.... Bahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
Peace
I have the Mr Carve M1, ComMarker 20w Fiber, and a Omtech 100w MOPA Fiber. I backed the Mr Carve on Kickstarter, it was my first 1064nm laser. To be clear, you are correct, the AtomStack isn't a fiber laser. It is a 2w 1064nm (DPSS) diode attached to a galvo head. The Mr Carve shipped with SeaCAD as well. There is a steep learning curve when it comes to using SeaCAD and EZCad, they are very similar in operation. Mr Carve was first out of the gate with a 1064 Galvo, this looks very similar to Mr Carve M2. I would bet that they share practically everything, minus the shell. The Atomstack looks identical to the Enjoywood M4. However, even though this isn't a fiber laser, it is using traditional fiber laser type software. I would suggest people be educated on the software before jumping into the 1064 Galvo and or Fiber lasers.
So for repeative stuff is it see LB does Galvos now. Have you tried it with this one yet ? If so how'd it do ? Thanks. I ordered one !
So safety glasses need to be worn when working with laser mark? Why? Similar to arcweld?
How good will it do on a gun stock? Will it engrave deep if done with multiple passes?
Sam, what was the depth of the engraving for Anodized Aluminum?
Love your videos and enjoy watching them every time they come on. May the Lord bless and protect you and your family. Have a wonderful holidays
Thank you! You too!
Sir i have a question -- how stanless steel metal engraved as a black latters but a metal core is silver ?
Been waiting on this video. You did not disappoint. If it is 1064, isn’t that an ir laser with galvo. XTool is coming out with F1 that has ir and blue diode working with galvo, but I would go with atomstack. I’ve heard their customer service is better. Great thorough video. I want a SamCraft flashlight. Lol
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video! Send me an email and who knows.. maybe one will arrive in your mailbox!
How much power laser does needs to remove Chip's epoxy?
Does anyone know if this laser is supported Lightburn?
works for little curved bracelets? made from stainless steel
I would be interested to see how this stacks up against the IR head they have out for the A20.
Sir, cool content great attitude easy to understand very awesome channel.
Hello Sam, this laser does it works engraving clear acrylic ?
Very cool! Thanks for showing us this laser!
Hi Sam, nice to see more videos coming. I found this really interesting then all your content is interesting.
You could not ask for more from this review with the content covered. An excellent laser but as you say there are some limitations. The way to solve the limitations is as you showed be creative around that.
What's the source of the laser and can we print on copper and brass
Does it matter if aluminum is Mill finish or polished?
i am going to unsub you,i have ask you questions with no replies
hello, do you have a material list with the parameter settings?
Just subscribed to your channel your videos are very informative and super cool. I have been 3D printing for a few now. It's time up the game. In the market for a laser that can engrave / print on metal. This particular laser the Atomstack M4 has stuck out! Other than the 💩software that everyone is having issues with it seems like. What I'm trying to do is not that hard. More less personalizing flat metal objects with names and maybe a little logo. How hard is it to change a jpg to a dfx? Or an image? Have you played around with SeaCad 5.0. any advice? Thanks Sam stay crafty 🤣
There are a few online converter sites that seem to be okay at converting to the DXF format. If you're in the market for a machine like this, be sure to look at the Genmitsu Z5-1 and the xTool F1. They're both better than this one, with the xTool being top tier with their dual laser setup (blue light and infrared) and accessories.
What speed did you use for Aluminum?
does it work on wood?
Nope. IR (1064nm) lasers do not work on plain wood.
sweet little laser ~ enjoying your shop! thank you Sam & fam!
Glad you enjoy it!
I had a similar laser system for a short time (Mr. Carve M1). It works great on plastics, and marking metal, but it won't engrave to any real depth, even with hundreds of passes.
I returned it and bought a fiber laser with a 50w JPT source, and the difference was unbelievable. The material that the smaller laser struggled to mark were cut completely through when I tried full power. If you're needing to actually engrave metal, not just mark it, get a "real" fiber laser and save yourself some time and effort.
Got any links to the product you went with?
Yea but also a huge cost difference and power difference. Your not comparing apples to apples but watermelons to grapes
Sam commented older video in last couple days where you discussed using GoPro8. What camera or cameras did you use for this video?
How many hours we can run it continuously?
Very thorough review, thank you. Is there a system like this for engraving wood? I like the no gantry and small footprint. I'm a wood worker and I currently use a branding iron and can never get consistent results on small objects. Like my working hand logo.
Can you add the tumbler attachment?
That laser is a DPSS (Diode Pumped Solid State) machine.
Has a diode pumped passive YAG q switch that puts out 15KW (microsecond) pulses that are 1024nm.
For the price point, about 1/4 of a 20W-30W fiber, it's not a terrible deal but it is, as you say, pretty low power and has a small working area.
Something for you to try:
Defocus upward (away from the work surface not toward it) between 1-4 millimeters, with an actual fiber laser you can get colors on metal and enhanced engraving depending on what you want to do.
Wouldldn't you use some type of anchor to hold your piece flat to the surface so it is level and won't move with the expanchion heat from the workings of machine?
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Appreciate your honest review Sam. Really like this M4 Laser Engraver.
Any word yet Lightburn supporting this M4 "Mighty" machine?
Nice review. I have had people wanting me to engrave on back of watch or on metal security badge that I had to tell them my CO2 would not do that. This may be something to explore. Thank you
Check into the xTool F1 before buying this model.
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Great review. I have been keeping an eye on the M4 for a while now, but just haven't seen a review that covered all of my questions. Until Now !! .. After watching this, I am happy to know that it will do all the materials that my diode laser will not do. Your review pushed me over the tipping point on getting one. Until I saw the price :( ... The link you provided shows (US) $1699 + shipping, but here in Australia the M4 on Amazon is selling for $3000+ ... The M4 on Aliexpress is going for around $2000 (AU), but then I would put the extra towards a full blown 50w Fiber Laser with multiple lenz from 75 - 300mm from Alliexpress.
SAM i would like you to do a video on your slate paint it black what ever color you want and just see how it works or what it does. just wondering PRESTON
Why didn't you do different speeds on the metal?? You did them all at 300mm also running it at 100 all the time won't it shorten the lasers life like on the DIODE.
Mechanics tools , impact & chrome ... does the lazer engrave those metals or just mark them ?
I engraved a set of chromed vanadium tools for family for Christmas. It engraved into them very well -- you could feel the rough engravings!
some assembly required batteries not included for 1699. however thats a dc power jack this can be ran off a battery on a tailgate at trade shows flea markets swap meets the pasture making tags for animals. im sure ts indexable for larger works too. but the price is way more then most people would spend with out some way to make the money back
The crank looks like something I would let my grand daughter play with...like a toy...? WHY
Other then that it looks really nice
do you know how to engrave an image like the tiger they advertise on their amazon listing for this machine? i tried importing normal images but it engraves very light and super slow. i also tried converting to a dxf after making the image grayscale and increasing the contrast but the results make it look like a normal vector graphic missing lots of key details instead of a high quality image
$1700? holy cow... no.... wthell
stock up on those flashlights I'm gonna need a bunch for next years Christmas... I have I think 20 or even more grands and great nieces and nephews I can get these for...
Ya know all those drill bits and drivers ya get where once it's out of the canister it came in you have to put a mic on to see what size they are? This would be fantastic just for a guy/gal who wanted to label all those for him/her self.
Sam, great video sir! I like that laser. I just have to comgrow 10w and it does pretty well with Lightburn. Have you seen the last update for LightBurn. I think 1.3.0. that may what you're looking for. I hope so. Thanks for the great video. God bless!
I would think that engraved metal pens for gifts, businesses and advertising would be another use and money maker.
The definition of a fiber laser is the laser used a doped fiber as the gain medium. It *could* be a fiber laser, the spool of gain fiber would be inside the box but the chances of that are slim to none. It is most likely just a more generic DPSS laser, possibly using some passive q-switching to get the high peak power, unless there is a frequency setting some place.
Can I use this for engraving metal credit cards? Or is the coverage size not big enough?
Sure you can! The max working size is 70mm. Also check out my video about the new Genmitsu Z5-1. It is MUCH better than this machine! ruclips.net/video/dqF7fbCeRcA/видео.html
NICE hat Sam. If it weren't for that really small area for engraving ... However if you don't have to reposition to fit the entire pattern in it.. great! As for that 5 watt limit ... a larger engraving region with a larger wattage of say 10 or 20 watt.... I believe the marriage of 5 watts and limited region is pretty much perfect but being able to enlarge the limits probably would be problematic for this type of lens/laser combo. Hang on - it does have its application niche.
Thank you for sharing your awesome review of this product with us today. Stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
can you engrace a yeti water canteen
Very cool machine. Windows is the problem. I would have to have Mac for sure.
A thought comes to mind. Once Lightburn will drive this engraver, by adding a reasonably accurate X-Y stage, you could layout a checkerboard type layout of squares and engrave each square from a different layer. Jus a thought 🧐
That banding didn't look like what you normally get on curved surfaces. ie my co2 would have had a slow graduation and not a line . to me it seemed more of a machine/software fault especially as it happened on the very start of the 1st move.
I THINK ORTUR WILL HOLD IT,S OWN.
how to print jpg picture ?
Awesome machine, and good review, shame glass wasn't included. I want one, but way out of my price range though as I just mess about with laser engraving.
Can you post the link of the store where you buy the metal sheet for laser engraving please
I got them from Hobby Lobby
Great video. Thanks for doing an in-depth review and calling out the "fiber laser" marketing. I think I'll pick one up for engraving small bronze blanks.
Woo-hoo...........That was a well done video. Cool Machine. You're going to have some fun with that!
Great review. I plan on picking this laser up for my bladesmithing. Thanks again!!
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Hi Sam, thank you for the review and showing the examples. Too bad there are limitations regarding organic materials. I am curious how working with glass as a medium would work. I have never used this type of product so it really has peaked my interest. Thank you again for this video.
I'll have to test out glass and let you know in a community post.
You be better off with the Laser Pecker 3, it has a higher powered laser and a slightly bigger work area and a crazy cool rotary/roller accessory :)
Couldn't you take it mounted on it's base and use the holes in the base to attach it sturdly to the larger sideways piece your trying to engrave while supporting it by hand. I think this would keep your museles form getting tired of holding it instead of using it with the cone on it?
When cranking that height adjustment, Would it help to support under the moving part to alleviate the crunchy noise of the gear?
it's a fiber laser.
glass and acrylic?
Sam, that's cool
Slate looks great when you hit it with some spray clear coat first, then engrave, makes a very nice contrast
Sam what laser do I need to engrave cristalglass trophies?
Is This compatible with lightburn
Not yet.
Good, and thorough review. The small coverage of 70mm is a bit small, but what a compact unit that will fit in the corner of any workspace.
How deep will this laser etch? Are there any metals it won't do?
😃👍Danke für das Video
Ist für mich auch interessant
Besonders das Metall geht
Great video. Would like to see you engrave a photo on metal and stone.
Right, nice demonstration. Question, you can feel the engraving, material is vaporized. For my own health I don’t want to be in surroundings where vaporized aluminium is in the air. I like the result, Ilike the process, I like your explanations. Should’nt fume exhaust/suction be setup?
Yes, 1,000% yes!!! I just received my 4" duct fans and components to set up a dedicated fume extraction for this laser and my other diodes. :)