I've been on the fence about this -- I know I'm going to get some type of laser engraver/cutter. The area of this fibre laser is smaller, but the accuracy and being able to actually etch metal is SO desirable. Great video! I think you made my mind up for me!
@@make.anything I would love to hear your thoughts the Xtool Ultra. You seem like an honest guy, and I think it looks like an interesting machine, that almost does it all. (engraving wise, anyways)
I would be curious to try lasering into underglaze on bisque fired ceramics, but I'd worry about the dust as well. Edit: Just looked and it has, of course, been done before
@@Wumf yep. Always my number one concern with my lasers is material safety. Since there are so many materials that are insanely dangerous to laser cut, but that people cut with vinyl cutters all the time. So nobody connects that the two cutters have very different effects, and just pick up material for a vinyl cutter for their laser cutter and risk killing themselves and eroding the steel in their machines.
Yes fiber lasers are not useful on organic materials. I use mine for 95% metal marking and engraving only but I'm 3D printing a new black phone case right now to try that. Great video as always!
I wonder if the laser is breaking down the dye that colors the PLA, this could be why they all react differently. No doubt the color of the plastic and the wavelength on the laser also come into it.
Robert Cowan did a video where he experimented on lasering different 3D print materials, and had the same experience as you. Some colors worked awesome, others showed no results at all, and there didn’t seem to be any predictable rhyme or reason to which ones did or did not work well.
I've had good luck marking petg with a fiber, I wonder if it's significantly different than pla. But I got a really good gold marking on black hdpe after playing around with the speed and power for a while.
Instead of a rotary unit, I think it would be enough if the device could change its focus motorically. I mean this would allow it to cover a little wider angle.
Bright pla parts and yellow overexposed ones hypothesis: on these samples the laser burnt the dyes so its natural pla color that shows. Blue pla might have more resistant dyes.
What about precisely lining up multiple "jobs" for something outside the build space? Is there a jig or something for that? What about cutting through metal or acrylic and other plastic sheets?
The build surface has all those threaded mounting points so custom jigs could certainly be made for lining up parts... but also I'd say it's possible to get really close by eye once you've really fine-tuned the red-laser preview accuracy
Looks like it could carve through a PCB's copper plating for fast prototypes without the chemical mess. Makes me wonder how the laser does with fiberglas/epoxy - i.e. can one drill/mill the holes without getting back to mechanical tools?
4 min into the video, I was wondering 'Are there focus issues on edges of images and a 'sweet spot'?' Unfortunately there is, so I guess some art/projects may need to incorporate some form of stylisation in an attempt to minimise it.
Thanks for the video. I have a somewhat unrelated question: where did you buy that ventilation hose? I've been trying to find that exact kind (the ones that can collapse and stay that way) without luck. Thanks in advance.
Hey Devin, big fan! I was wondering if we could link to work on a project together. I want some help in 3d modeling some cheese based items. Let me know what you think!!
One instance is that I'm sick of my Gorilla pod for using it on my desk. I would really like help in designing a two piece wedge of cheese that I can place some pebbles inside of to make it bottom heavy, a hole in the middle counter sunk to place a 1/4" screw so I can place a ball head mount on it so I can better use my cameras on a flat surface like my desk.
Oh, another cheese related item I think would be wonderful to work with you on is a cheese themed SD card holder so I can better control my camera's SD cards and my printer's SD cards.
Those green glasses that comes with the machines offer no real protection. Please get some proper approved glasses if you want to look at the machine at work.
If you see a laser product with no built in eye protection, don't buy it. It shouldn't be an optional extra, it should a fundamental part of the machine. If they don't have that one simple safety feature, what else did they skimp on? It's not worth your sight.
My main workhorse is a PC so I don't completely disagree, but also I played around a bit in EZCAD and I'm glad I tried Lightburn first because I like it much more.
I'd bet that's a midscale Cost as hard as that is to say which just means if you get cheaper ... Less preparation or care happened in creation so probably not worth the money at any more reasonable costs.
@@make.anything Buy some Green get out a Heatgun, Stainless bowl and wooden Spoon. Even better than watching Rocks change colour you get the aroma as Green turns Brown then you get to dynamically use the result 😉
7:25 Man, I've been using these all wrong
Great video Devin. I could watch some of these marking jobs for hours on end. THANK YOU!
Awesome, thorough review! I always love seeing you add as new tool to your arsenal.
I've been on the fence about this -- I know I'm going to get some type of laser engraver/cutter.
The area of this fibre laser is smaller, but the accuracy and being able to actually etch metal is SO desirable.
Great video! I think you made my mind up for me!
Yup, it's a shame no one machine does it all!
@@make.anything I would love to hear your thoughts the Xtool Ultra. You seem like an honest guy, and I think it looks like an interesting machine, that almost does it all. (engraving wise, anyways)
Just be really careful to not do quartz. Look up Silicosis and you may decide to no do random rocks.
Oof! Good to know 😥
I would be curious to try lasering into underglaze on bisque fired ceramics, but I'd worry about the dust as well.
Edit: Just looked and it has, of course, been done before
@@Wumf yep. Always my number one concern with my lasers is material safety. Since there are so many materials that are insanely dangerous to laser cut, but that people cut with vinyl cutters all the time. So nobody connects that the two cutters have very different effects, and just pick up material for a vinyl cutter for their laser cutter and risk killing themselves and eroding the steel in their machines.
The "overcooked" rock engraving is the best looking thing you showed all video.
Man, that's cool.
Yes fiber lasers are not useful on organic materials. I use mine for 95% metal marking and engraving only but I'm 3D printing a new black phone case right now to try that. Great video as always!
at 10:42 a little spider takes a closer look
Man awesome video it definitely does some very cool work.
I wonder if the laser is breaking down the dye that colors the PLA, this could be why they all react differently. No doubt the color of the plastic and the wavelength on the laser also come into it.
This episode really did become "LASER ALL THE THINGS!"
moved to Sweden recently, and the scissors for the pizza make so much sense!!! :D
I REFUSE!
Robert Cowan did a video where he experimented on lasering different 3D print materials, and had the same experience as you. Some colors worked awesome, others showed no results at all, and there didn’t seem to be any predictable rhyme or reason to which ones did or did not work well.
I've had good luck marking petg with a fiber, I wonder if it's significantly different than pla. But I got a really good gold marking on black hdpe after playing around with the speed and power for a while.
Instead of a rotary unit, I think it would be enough if the device could change its focus motorically. I mean this would allow it to cover a little wider angle.
Great idea actually
You should do more of the peg board thing
Bright pla parts and yellow overexposed ones hypothesis: on these samples the laser burnt the dyes so its natural pla color that shows. Blue pla might have more resistant dyes.
Hmm, that could certainly explain why the 'same' material behaves so differently!
My idea was to make a mold out of some flat piece of granite or marble for pressing in Silver art clay or resin or two halves of an injection mold
10:46 tiny red spider on the rock!
I don't really care or about printers.. I just love way you look😍🥺
10:43 lol! a spider trying to get zapped
Hey you live in Sweden? Never realized. That's cool!
Great video! Btw, how is life in Sweden? I would love to see a video about your thoughts on living in Sweden. 😁
What about precisely lining up multiple "jobs" for something outside the build space? Is there a jig or something for that?
What about cutting through metal or acrylic and other plastic sheets?
The build surface has all those threaded mounting points so custom jigs could certainly be made for lining up parts... but also I'd say it's possible to get really close by eye once you've really fine-tuned the red-laser preview accuracy
Looks like it could carve through a PCB's copper plating for fast prototypes without the chemical mess. Makes me wonder how the laser does with fiberglas/epoxy - i.e. can one drill/mill the holes without getting back to mechanical tools?
Yes. RUclips has lots of videos showing this being done.
10:50 yep, I wanted that micro spidey to get completely vaporized....
10:41 Spider Mite is confused!
Spider Mite *almost* hurt itself in it's confusion.
4 min into the video, I was wondering 'Are there focus issues on edges of images and a 'sweet spot'?'
Unfortunately there is, so I guess some art/projects may need to incorporate some form of stylisation in an attempt to minimise it.
What does it do to amorphous metal?
hmmm gotta get my hands on some!
Thank you
can we have a new vlog video :3
Thanks for the video.
I have a somewhat unrelated question: where did you buy that ventilation hose? I've been trying to find that exact kind (the ones that can collapse and stay that way) without luck.
Thanks in advance.
It came with the smoke purifier and sadly they don't sell the hose on its own :(
Okay. Thank you. I'll keep looking.
How about small pcb creations?
I'm not particularly skilled with electronics but it's something I'd like to delve into more! Custom PCB work could be fun 😊
I approve of ALL the snails
High praise from a real snail! Thanks :>
Please tell me the spider didn't get himself lasered! :O
He's good, we're besties now 👍
Hey Devin, big fan! I was wondering if we could link to work on a project together. I want some help in 3d modeling some cheese based items. Let me know what you think!!
One instance is that I'm sick of my Gorilla pod for using it on my desk. I would really like help in designing a two piece wedge of cheese that I can place some pebbles inside of to make it bottom heavy, a hole in the middle counter sunk to place a 1/4" screw so I can place a ball head mount on it so I can better use my cameras on a flat surface like my desk.
Oh, another cheese related item I think would be wonderful to work with you on is a cheese themed SD card holder so I can better control my camera's SD cards and my printer's SD cards.
One more thing, I'd love some help on designing a 3d printer that uses cheese wiz to make my crackers happier since my life is sad.
Looks safe.
Those green glasses that comes with the machines offer no real protection. Please get some proper approved glasses if you want to look at the machine at work.
If the dust was magnetic, it wasn't brass. Looked like brass plated steel.
Good point.. I guess that makes it a better comparison to the first coin I attempted to carve
🎉
Imo this one has around $800-1000 air in its price.
Wait, Swedes cut pizzas with scissors? That's insanity.
I always wanted to add graffiti to my Levi’s pant legs.
If you see a laser product with no built in eye protection, don't buy it. It shouldn't be an optional extra, it should a fundamental part of the machine. If they don't have that one simple safety feature, what else did they skimp on? It's not worth your sight.
Nothing new that all the other 20W fibers do or have. And more than the Gweinke 20w.
Cheaper tatoos?
Do not show your keys on a video, especially with a room number
I think I avoided showing the whole thing :P
@@make.anything nope its just about enough for a bumpkey
@@o1ecyphera bumpkey is enough for a bumpkey…
What did we learn here? Get a PC.
My main workhorse is a PC so I don't completely disagree, but also I played around a bit in EZCAD and I'm glad I tried Lightburn first because I like it much more.
Spam? Are you kidding me?
Cool but not for €1,700 😮
How much do similar machines cost?
I'd bet that's a midscale Cost as hard as that is to say which just means if you get cheaper ... Less preparation or care happened in creation so probably not worth the money at any more reasonable costs.
Still too much. I feel like this tech has been around long enough to drop the price significantly. Guess I'm waiting.
Heathen - don't store ground coffee, fresh grind always 🤣
I have even more cursed coffee habits that would make you shudder :P
@@make.anything Buy some Green get out a Heatgun, Stainless bowl and wooden Spoon. Even better than watching Rocks change colour you get the aroma as Green turns Brown then you get to dynamically use the result 😉
Are you wearing false tan, your looking very “trumpy”
haha no... maybe a nutrient imbalance o.O