Princess 2 - the 70s classic car time forgot! (Austin Princess/Wedge)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • Princess 2 - ADO71
    Although it’s the car most people think of when the name Princess pops up in automotive circles, the AD071 Princess wasn’t the first car to bear the Princess name, in fact, it had been used on vehicles since the 1940s when it was applied to the most expensive model in the Austin range and then used in the 50s for for deluxe versions of BMC range of exec cars.
    By 1975 when it first got applied to the ADO71 car, the Princess name hadn’t been used since the early mid 60s and and was used on the 1800/2200 cars before being used on the 1700, 2000 and 2200 cars badged as Princess 2 - which is what we’re testing today.
    It might be called the Princess, but some of you will know it as the 18-22 series too - the idea behind going for the Princess badging was to unite the various cars being churned out by Austin, Wolseley and Morris; again, another patching up exercise as British Leyland tried to make all the brands work together in harmony.
    The car was designed by the late, great Harris Mann; who was a man who didn’t just stick to the same old tired designs but seemed to really care about what he designed and tried to bring in new concepts and challenge what was on the forecourt. He gave us cars like the TR7, the Allegro and this Princess as well as being involved in many other cars which were commonplace during the era.
    In fact, Mann said this was one of his favourite designs because the end result so closely resembled his vision; which was the grumble with the Allegro which didn’t at all and he said this was a car he designed to bring BL into the modern age and in many ways it did!
    Now I sing the praises of this car on this test today - I genuinely liked it - and before I get slated for having rose tinted glasses, it wasn’t just me who liked it because Autocar rated the 2200 HLS they tested in 1977 as one of the best cars they’d tested that year. So I guess I’m not the only one with good taste.
    Tech spec wise, we chat about a lot of this later, but a brief recap on some bits:
    We’ve got the 2.2 engine in this - but even with the 1700 and 2000 engines you weren’t hard done by. The max speed for the 1700 was 99mph, the 2000 promised 98 and the 2200 promised a driving license busting 105.4 miles per hour.
    The 0-60 on the 1700 was 15.7 seconds, 14.6 for the 2000 and for the 2200 like we’ve got? 11.8 seconds - which makes it a lot quicker than you might be expecting!
    The car is fitted with rack and pinion steering and has a turning circle of 37.8 feet - as per the BL salesman booklet - but the official brochures list it as an inch or two out from that in places; but it’s roughly 37.8 feet. The turns lock to lock on the 1700/2000 with the non power assisted steering as standard is 4.37 turns, but for those paying for a power assist upgrade on lesser specced models or those going for the 2200 where it comes as standard, it’s 3.26 turns lock to lock.
    Sadly the Princess was relatively short lived compared to other BL cars and came to an end in 1981 when it was replaced by the Austin Ambassador; another rare car in the range.
    Now I would love to tell you that this car was the absolute winner that saved BL, but it wasn’t and in fact, it didn’t get half as much as love as it should’ve done because of the sheer incompetence of management at the time who allowed the early excitement and goodwill - there were months of waiting lists in the first flush of these cars - to dwindle and collapse with strike action, varying build quality and a couple of key weak spots which become hot topics like some of the cars munching through drive shafts.
    I hope today you see this car for what it could’ve been and what it offered with a positive outlook and don’t let the mismanagement of a fantastic concept overshadow it. It had the finesse to be beat Ford, the ingenuity to take on European competitors; but it wasn’t to be.
    Now that’s enough gazing back into the past, let’s skip into 2023 and see what a survivor of this range offers the discerning classic enthusiast.
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Комментарии • 27

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 8 месяцев назад +41

    A very misunderstood car. I was around when these were introduced. Most folks looked at them and just thought "what the hell. . .". The looks were very devisive. Looking back now, they were very ahead of their time. I had an Ambassador 1.7 base model for a while. It didn't have power steering, and trust me when I say, You REALLY need that. It was extremely heavy at parking speeds. My wife , who is quite small, found it almost impossible to drive because of that. Otherwise, very comfortable, huge amount of space especially with the hatchback, and pretty good to drive once you get above 15MPH. Great work Steph. Thanks.

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +9

      I love when people of the time comment on a car. Gives you proper perspective x

  • @realnutteruk1
    @realnutteruk1 8 месяцев назад +25

    Orange! Nice matching frock too!

  • @iant234
    @iant234 8 месяцев назад +10

    I do have a thing for B/L cars & this has made my day, thanks steph 👌

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +6

      Glad to have Made your day. Hope the rest of it is fab toooooo ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Vince_uk
    @Vince_uk 8 месяцев назад +17

    Good One Steph looking good as always. Yet another car I have always like and feel are very underrated by many. I recall at the time they were first launched many people didn't like the shape but I always thought they looked very modern and were quite advanced for the time. One of my suppliers had a red one in the late 70's and I loved going out in it.

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +6

      Progress is linked to risk. This was a risk that deserved more love

  • @MrTimcoronel
    @MrTimcoronel 8 месяцев назад +11

    and there were various Vanden Plas Princesses. I have one of the ADO16 variants: a 1300 VDP Princess

  • @graemew7001
    @graemew7001 8 месяцев назад +29

    The thing that always got me with the Princess was the 4 speed box, Maxi's had a 5 speed and surely there must have been a way to adapt these for the Princess which would have made them a nicer drive. Other than that though I didn't mind the Princess, it has always been a very nice design.

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +14

      Absolutely correct. A 5 speed box should’ve been standard, at least on the 2200 x

  • @chrispenn715
    @chrispenn715 8 месяцев назад +22

    Wow. Another fantastic survivor. Great to see this car being cherished. It became fashionable to knock BL in period but these were good cars (once the inevitable early production issues were sorted). Love the colour - I'm wearing a top in the same colour today 😂

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +7

      Haha. I love a bit of burnt orange x

  • @gortonshameless6746
    @gortonshameless6746 8 месяцев назад +6

    A friend's dad had one, it was a very smooth ride.

  • @andrewcrowther1973
    @andrewcrowther1973 8 месяцев назад +6

    Hi Steph just wantvto say what a wonderful video as always and a such a beautiful car to review 😊

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +3

      Ahh thank you. I’m so grateful to Alan for his generosity in sharing x

  • @JimTimber
    @JimTimber 8 месяцев назад +12

    So sleek.. it actually looks awesome ! ..and the vinyl roof.. a classic pigeon splatter mat ! lol
    Great video !!.. I do love the old British Leyland motors.
    It's a classic 1970's colour as well.. the design team probably got free mustard at the Berni Inns on their business lunches !!
    My Dad used to train senior managers at BL.. and was always astounded at how drunk thery were... true story.
    8:29 wtf !!..a random prowler looking for a swimming pool ! 😁
    That six sounds awesome at the exhaust !
    Superb review !!

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +5

      Hahahah random prowler. Just ugly laughed 😂😂 x

  • @MichaelKingsfordGray
    @MichaelKingsfordGray 8 месяцев назад +9

    Being Australian, I have never encountered this vehicle. Thank you for demonstrating it.
    The only "Princess" cars here are Austin wedding limos.
    But no tacho on a manual twin SU transverse 6?
    (It was 30C today here in spring, and I wore a suitcoat and necktie as I felt cold! Last year it reached over 50C in the shade.)

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +6

      I don’t know how you do it. I’d be roasting x

  • @pauljohnson2430
    @pauljohnson2430 8 месяцев назад +11

    Great Video I am sure Orange velour seats will come back. The range was designed as a hatchback but B.L stopped it as they figured it would hit sales of the Maxi, very shortsighted and stopped the car reaching its full market potential.

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +4

      It’s a sad mismanagement isn’t it x

  • @michaelward2082
    @michaelward2082 8 месяцев назад +7

    My next door neighbour had a blue one..

  • @CathodeRayNipplez
    @CathodeRayNipplez 8 месяцев назад +4

    😀

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 8 месяцев назад +6

    It was a comfortable car, but it did get through driveshafts, lasting on average 2k miles a set !

    • @idriveaclassic
      @idriveaclassic  8 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah couldn’t be doing with that, would drive me nuts x