The current deal at Home Depot we product tagged to the video is get a free XC8.0 with this new M18. Just dont use that battery all in one go, though that would be impressive to pull off. Edit: we're adding a timestamp tag around 13:00 we dont usually do this, but people are saying they cant find the link to it and we're not experts
@@DelTalkoh It's under tagged products because it's home depot and that's how those work now on youtube now, you have to click "1 product" and it will show you the item.
Also has a rafter hook and belt loop - both of which are quite handy when you don't have enough hands. Whether that's because you're carrying too many other things or you're really bad with a circular saw
can you guys please figure out a way to test shop vacs? I want one that will suck the carpet off the floor price be dammed lol. no good reviews anyways.
Might want to look into dust extractors rather than a vacuum. It's like shopping for an "air mover" vs "fan." It's the same thing but powerful enough to get its own category name
@@IndignASMR I didn't think about those but there's times I do need to suck up wet sand changing pool. filter sand every few years. so all around and mobile would be good.
@@jsomething2 My dust extractor is about the size of a shop vac and does support wet vacuuming, and with 98" of water lift *at* over 100-something CFM it does it _very_ well. You have to take out the HEPA filter for wet, and for a lot of water or sand I'd recommend a bucket vortex thing so you don't have to clean out the actual vacuum constantly.
@@jsomething2 Bosch VAC090AH Professional is the one I got because it seemed to hit the best price to performance for my taste. I don't actually own one of the bucket separator attachments because I never do a job that big, but it might even turn a cheap shop vac into something that fits your needs.
When those Ridgid tabless packs get released I'm looking forward to seeing what, if any, improvement they make to ridgid tool power rankings! It'll be entertaining content for sure.
Yep. And 3 minutes less time won't be noticeable in jobsite use. The other issue is the battery platform needing to be the tom of the line. I use a worm drive so I'm curious what they'll make in that format. I find cutting straight is much easier whe pushing from the back.
I love it when i'm working on something and get a random fastener from the other measuring system thrown in there. Like i was replacing an engine on a Takeuchi track loader and everything is metric, metric this, metric that blah blah blah. Except for the two socket head cap screws that hold the hydraulic pumps onto the the engine. WTF
@tedmich I've recently taken a gearbox out of a dumper apart. It was made in England. The bolts have metric heads but neither metric nor SAE fits on them very well. Some bolts metric fits better other SAE. Still wondering if they have Whitworth heads.
I had a long stint in reno and cabinetry. Used almost every brand, and most cordless. In the beginning of cordless there was 9 volt Makita drill. I have 40 yr old corded Makita tools still working properly. The battery ones to, but the batteries only hold a charge for ten minutes now. You just can't go wrong with Makita all round. Same as the Yamaha brand. Can't lose on bikes, boat motors, stereo, pianos, music equipment, and more. Finally the 18 volts came out. On drills. I had Hitachi, and used Makita, Dewalt, Rigid, Mastercraft, etc., that co-workers had. All of them had crap batteries in the beginning. The LI-on batteries were a game changer for all brands. Almost all now have excellent battery life (years). I have an older (3 yrs) version of the saw above, without the rafter hook. It was $160 on sale at Home Depot in Canada. Goes with my drills and batteries, and even works OK on ply with the tiny 2.0 amph battery. The whole reason for choosing Milwaukee is because of the high quality of their corded tools. What drywaller didn't have a Milwaukee drywall gun, back in the day. Or renovator, having the original Sawzall.
That's a blast from the past! When I started out in GM dealerships in the early 80's, the teal Makita 1/4" drill was the bomb. 7.2volts NiCad at that time. Still have them 40 years later and they still work.
My father was always a Makita man. I was going to go with Makita when it was time to upgrade but their tools were so much more expensive and their quality has gone down every since they started making their tools in China instead of Japan. I know Milwaukee also does this, but I was able to get all new fuel tools for much less on sale and I'm very happy I did! The M12 fuel multi tool alone is worth switching to Milwaukee.
In regards to adapting each saw's arbor to your test rig, can you tap the shaft of the test motor, then attach a drill chuck to it. Then chuck up the saw's arbor like a drill bit. I know the added rotating mass will throw off the numbers a little, but it'll throw them all of virtually the same amount.
@lastminutepanic23 there's a bundle deal that comes with the battery, but also there's a seperate deal to get the tool and a free battery seperate, which you can hack and get the saw for $122
@@deadofnight109 I see on the website that there's a "Free Good" when the tool-only is added to cart, but it doesn't actually offer me the "good" (I assume battery) or add it to my cart for me. Guess I'll have to go in-store :(
I own 30 makita cordless 19 batteries between lxt and xgt i recently purchased a milwaukee 10” miter great tool. Wanted to try the m12 top dog impacts and while they were powerful the drills were so loud and my hand could feel the crazy vibrations after only 10 min of use. I returned those. Purchased this 6 1/2 saw with the free 8.0 battery which made it attractvie and i thought 6000 rpm is second highest behind makitas xgt 7 1/4 coming in at 6400rpm. I also own the 40v makita 6 1/2 This milwaukee 6 1/2 brake is so loud and shrill. The makitas is smooth and quiet. I couldnt listen to the milwaukee my ears are used to the makitas quietness. I purchased the milwaukee 15 gauge. Its badass no complaints i will run all my nailers milwaukee and keep my 10” chop saw. Everything else makita Except my 60v dewalt table saw
Could we get the 9AH flex volt for any dewalt tools tested? Just curious what the “maximum” of any of them could be even if it’s uncomparable to other packs
Don't have a problem with that on its face. But the few times we've done it, let's say it passes up one of the others with the 9Ah and we post the video. Then people say, well the M18 or Ridgid would have won using a 12Ah! Then if we post that, people say the DeWALT should use the 15ah because it's something neither of them offer. Up and up forever.
@@TorqueTestChannelCould always do an occassional round up video where you compare the best available batteries in one shot, while keeping the other videos with more reasonable battery choices
@@TorqueTestChannelmakes sense. And let’s be realistic, no one wants to use anything bigger than an 8ah on a handheld tool. I certainly don’t. I would love to see Milwaukee release a 3ah forge
Great test! Maybe pricing on track attachment should be added as a category also? My observation is that the pricing on track sections can vary a lot from brand to brand
Didn't even know Milwaukee had a new 6.5 inch saw I have the old M12 model its been great never seen a M18 6.5 inch saw very nice 0:10 @Torque Test Channel
I'd be interested if you could test Boschs circular saw for metal, the GKM 18V-50. I wonder what the difference is in performance to the typical circular saws for wood
Good thing you lead off with the explanation of why you haven’t tested the new m12 Stubby. Been checking your channel everyday for that video to drop. Waiting to see if I need to replace my current m12 Stubby.
I would love to see you guys test more craftsman stuff in all categories, i have a couple tools and I want to see how they scale up to these big brands
Would love to see a comparison between the brands that have like a good better best system. Like Milwaukee has the basic brushed tools then they have mid tier brushless, and then they have their fuel lines. It would be interesting to compare price versus Performance to see if there’s really a price savings worth the performance cut
I have the ridgid it’s great if you just need to frame out a bathroom or do some blocking. If I’m doing real framing I’m using a corded saw. Lifetime warranty on the ridgid means it’s engineered to last longer
The fact Milwaukee gets “downgraded” for price is ridiculous. Milwaukee ALWAYS has deals and this saw is $122 at Home Depot right now. I’ve never paid full price for one Milwaukee tool and I own over 50 of them. I just used the Home Depot hack to get the m18 6 gallon wet dry vacuum for $110.
Pneumatic grinders would be a great one to watch, in my line of work die grinders to 4” pneumatic grinders are incredibly handy. I’d love to know the difference between expensive brands as Ingersoll Rand and Jet to smaller names such as Aircat and Harbor Freight.
I've ran metal blades on various circular saws usually cutting heavy stock & they'll destroy themselves quickly. They really want to r.p.m. >4k. Milwaukee makes a 5⅜ blade right cold cut metal saw that looks worth it. ...ymmv & if carefully cutting sheet metal, occasionally you might be successful but in my experience the $35+ blades are not economical to run in standard circs for relatively heavy metal cutting.
Wonder what the new forge batteries will do on these high drain tools, the 8 and 12ah are supposed to handle heat better by design. The 12ah forge is supposed to put out more power also.
I bought a Ridgid brushless 71/4 a year and a half ago 5500rpm tool only for $90 (now189).It was to replace to replace well care for USA made porter cable. Plenty of balls, less weight, and cord FREEDOM!
I started using Ridgid's high torque impact about a 6 months ago and it is great. Got it with 2x4AH batteries for $350 CAD which was half the price Milwaukee wanted for their high torque with batteries. Just waiting for a Ridgid angle grinder sale now.
@@rel124c41a in the states, November-end of December best time. I have 12v Milwaukee , 18v ridgid, dewalt 18v framer & 12v driver/drill. Metabo 4v power screw driver kit. All have a specific discipline when I use each from deck building to plastic cover machine removal and find screw install installation and of course in the home use mostly the 12 V. And personal auto repair and maintenance
My only complaint with the new Milwaukee saw is the led light. All if my other Milwaukee saws, when you press the trigger lock, the light comes on, helping see the cut line before cutting. With this new version, you have to pull the trigger or at least bump itto get the light to come on. Not something I noticed until making my first cut in low light.
Ridgid's subcompact line is sort of a quiet beast. They don't get a lot of love (except from you guys) but are relatively cheap, pretty powerful, and with lifetime service agreements a good long term investment.
That's what's been great about TTC... If it hasn't been for them, Rigid would still be a "cheap... but _cheap" brand to me! Whereas more we know it's a wolf in sheep's clothing and __*_well_* worth considering! _(or even _*_skip_*_ the consideration and straight up buy it lol)_
Just got the m18 6.5 circ. 2833-20 for $129 after returning the battery using the "Home Depot Hack" method of purchasing a "special buy" set. Nothing complicated, just do a store pickup and return the item you don't want.
I believe it is common on milwaukee, it gives you little more power, but it also kills the battery faster, which sometimes is good and sometimes is not
I use the Ryobi 6/in saw hp. Is a small light saw. It has good power for normal cuts. Most of the time I am doing 2x4s 4x4 and 2x6s. It does it well. For diy use it’s great. I use a 4 amp it works good. Thank you for the review. Have a good day!
Love your test, pants down and see what they got :) i would be relly interested in more german Brands and the new makita XGT saws. For me as a professional carpenter, brands like mafell and Festool are the way to go, especially for accuracy and additional equpement, but i feel those brads lack in performance :)
My local Walmart had a hyper tough 20v 6.5 inch with 1.5 ah battery a rip fence and their cheap charger for $20 in the clearance section! Can't beat that with a stick
Can you compare Flex's 6 1/2" Inline Circular Saw to the Milwaukee, Ridgid and others? Its supposedly able to compete with larger 7"+ saws due to its cut and its technology is leading edge with the in-line aspect of it.
If you are looking for ideas… can I use a digital torque adapter, the clutch on my hand drill, and a Sharpie to turn my drill into a powered torque wrench? My assumption is no, but I'd be interested to see what happened if you tried.
@@TorqueTestChannel I work in electrical, where most of the terminals I have to torque have their specs in in-lbs, and many people scorn impacts for their tendency to over-torque terminations, so that would actually be very useful to me. Specifically, I work in PV-and 120 in-lbs would cover almost all of the mechanical connections I make, in addition to the electrical ones. I was excited about Milwaukee's torque control impact, but after your testing I decided it wasn't worth pursuing.
I think I would rather have a saw act like the Milwaukee vs. the others. When I pick it up to rip OSB or whatever, I want it spinning like it always does.
Hey @TorqueTestChannel when are you guys going to review the new dewalt powerpack batteries and see how they stack up along with the new hammer drill (dcf1007) ?
So many brands are coming our with tabless cell packs right now, and they all use the same cells. So we likely wont be doing a video per brand on the subject
I wonder how does the Japan only 6 1/2 Makita 40v does compared to this. Also, doesn't t the Bosch track compatible 7 1/4 saw have better performance than the regular sole one?
most circular saws are used to cut 2 by what ever with material and lots of time ripping plywood when i had my 36 volt dewalt we used it all day on a single charge best tool ever owned kinda heavy. the most impressive was the recip saw though but would really like to see how this older saw compairs
I skipped this saw because someone recently had a good deal on the larger 2834 with a free 8.0 Forge. But I gotta say, for most of us a 6.5” saw should likely be the new standard size. I really like my M12 circ for anything that isn’t 100yr old hardwood 2X although it can handle it decently well. I’m not a collector but do have my dad’s SKIL. Call me a romantic but I just like the idea of having a circ with “SKIL” on the side.
Does the M18 and DeWalt 20v having the battery in the back help at all with weight distribution? I don't know much about wood working or saws but I would think up on a ladder or something, but I would think a more balanced tool would be easier to handle.
I have the feeling that dewalt might make a much bigger circular saw just to be on top of the competitiom just like what they did to the high torque 961 which is supposed to be in 3/4" disguised in 1/2" anvil just to be the stongest 1/2" on the market. Also with their drills and impact drivers which are alot bigger than the competition
The lack of weight, ergonomics, cut depth, precision and battery life with a 90Wh battery life of a modern 6.5" makes my 7-1/4 obsolete. I will never get another 7-1/4". Someday I would like add a 10" cordless circular saw and completely eliminate any use cases for my 7-1/4". I started with a Milwaukee Cordless 6.5" back in the early days of Ni-Cad batteries. I loved it but the battery life was terrible. Currently I have the Makita XSH03Z 18V LXT Brushless Cordless 6-1/2" Circular Saw and love it for its precision and smoothness. When I need to replace it this new Milwaukee will be at the top of the list. The new Makita 40v XGT are still too pricey.
the dewalt 60v is pretty economical given the ridiculous power it puts out, as far as 10" saws Skilsaw makes the 10 1/4 HVL cordless saw which looks like a beast.
I have the Makita 40v blade left saw with the new tabless 4 amp battery. It is a ridiculously smooth saw that blows this Milwaukee out of the water. Joy to use and worth it’s price.
Would using an infrared thermometer not penalize batteries with good casings, that guide heat to the outside more efficiently? Wouldn't bad casings that isolate the cells from the outside probably show lower external temperatures, but higher internal ones?
I just bought a circ saw but went with a corded one.And I chose the metabo rip max because of it's 6,800 RPM speed...and it's price of around 100 bucks.All the other saws are around 5500 RPM so why not.Its a very well built saw,nothing cheap looking,It is pretty heavy...but boy it really seems like it has massive power compared to my older corded saws..
Isn’t the Bosch equivalent of Milwaukee’s Forge battery ProCore 18V+ - I mean, Bosch’s battery has been selling for quite a while to compare it with the old battery…
Snap-on has new ratchets rated at 80 ft lbs. I'd like to see how close they actually are to that claim on the dyno as well as on the gauntlet. And for the love of all your viewers, test the dcf500!
Kobalt has a new compact impact wrench. #5645469 it’s in 1/2” 3/8” and 1/4” which is pretty neat. I’m sure it’s just flex but worse but Would be neat to see tested.
I have a 14” top handle Milwaukee chainsaw, and I don’t even bother using the forge battery when cutting large diameter trees or branches. It gets so hot, the saw won’t turn on
I mostly use 9" corded by the teal green boys, buy one, don't throw it or drop it more than 6', you'll have it for years. Little saws are fine, but seriously annoying when you need more depth !
That Milwaukee saw has a lot of power, a beauty. However, are you planning to acquire the Bosch 6.5inch Circular Saw, the GKS 18V-22LN to test them along with these and compare it to them?
Any chance you guys could test rotator ratchets? There are a bunch out there like the Proxxon and Sidewinder to the Craftsman and Stanley. I'd love to know their limits.
While I appreciate the technical. I own the Bosch GKS18V-25GC (not shown here). It is programable via the connect toolbox app for any rpm under its maximum. Is track ready both fsn and festool. Ripping 2x material single pass with a track is a game changer at elevation or without a tablesaw with glue quality seams. I couldn’t care less about top end rpm as you’ll also burn through your blades. Common sense feeds and speeds are still applicable for both metal and wood.
@@thomasgilliam3104 I would hope so but I’m gonna laugh my ass off if that new 7 1/4 curb stomps the 60 V like Milwaukee claims. But again, Milwaukee has made claims in the past that turned out to not be true
The current deal at Home Depot we product tagged to the video is get a free XC8.0 with this new M18. Just dont use that battery all in one go, though that would be impressive to pull off.
Edit: we're adding a timestamp tag around 13:00 we dont usually do this, but people are saying they cant find the link to it and we're not experts
I picked up the 7-1/4” saw with a rapid charger, 12ah battery, bag, and a free angle grinder to boot, all for $270
Hi, I don't see the Milwaukee link only the rigid saw.
@@DelTalkoh It's under tagged products because it's home depot and that's how those work now on youtube now, you have to click "1 product" and it will show you the item.
Can you do rotary tools? Would like to see if Dremel is the best.
@@prbmax I believe getting a 35,000-40,000 RPM dyno is the limitation currently
Also has a rafter hook and belt loop - both of which are quite handy when you don't have enough hands. Whether that's because you're carrying too many other things or you're really bad with a circular saw
The bosch has an optional rafter hook, part number GKSLSH
@@wayneswonderarium
Ridgid 71/4 has build in hook.
can you guys please figure out a way to test shop vacs? I want one that will suck the carpet off the floor price be dammed lol. no good reviews anyways.
Might want to look into dust extractors rather than a vacuum. It's like shopping for an "air mover" vs "fan." It's the same thing but powerful enough to get its own category name
@@IndignASMR I didn't think about those but there's times I do need to suck up wet sand changing pool. filter sand every few years. so all around and mobile would be good.
@@jsomething2 My dust extractor is about the size of a shop vac and does support wet vacuuming, and with 98" of water lift *at* over 100-something CFM it does it _very_ well. You have to take out the HEPA filter for wet, and for a lot of water or sand I'd recommend a bucket vortex thing so you don't have to clean out the actual vacuum constantly.
@@jsomething2 Bosch VAC090AH Professional is the one I got because it seemed to hit the best price to performance for my taste. I don't actually own one of the bucket separator attachments because I never do a job that big, but it might even turn a cheap shop vac into something that fits your needs.
Project farm has a few videos comparing but his voice is so annoying I usually skip to the end to look at the charts
Crazy RPM on that new M18 6- 1/2". Excellent testing as always, TTC!
"If you don't, I don't know what you're doing at the end of this video" LOL
Also enjoyed that lol
When those Ridgid tabless packs get released I'm looking forward to seeing what, if any, improvement they make to ridgid tool power rankings! It'll be entertaining content for sure.
I much prefer Milwaukee style if full power until dead vs a tool that almost immediately drops performance.
Yep. And 3 minutes less time won't be noticeable in jobsite use. The other issue is the battery platform needing to be the tom of the line.
I use a worm drive so I'm curious what they'll make in that format. I find cutting straight is much easier whe pushing from the back.
I have the ridgid, and I run it with the 6.0 max output. More than enough power to tackle anything on site. I luv it.
Nice detailed video as always. But Im still missing a lot of xgt stuff in your tests.
I love it when i'm working on something and get a random fastener from the other measuring system thrown in there. Like i was replacing an engine on a Takeuchi track loader and everything is metric, metric this, metric that blah blah blah. Except for the two socket head cap screws that hold the hydraulic pumps onto the the engine. WTF
GM once tried using custom bolts with metric threads and imperial heads...
@tedmich I've recently taken a gearbox out of a dumper apart. It was made in England. The bolts have metric heads but neither metric nor SAE fits on them very well. Some bolts metric fits better other SAE. Still wondering if they have Whitworth heads.
@@d3faulted2this is my first time every hearing of whitworth anything. Thanks for the rabbit hole
@@SupposedlyShiny old british motorcycles... super fun if you like wrenching more than actual riding.
Great video as always! Please consider testing tire inflators that are compatible with existing batteries from Milwaukee, Dewalt, etc.
@@JohnCrighton Milwaukee is miles ahead of the dewalt. I’ve used both. The dewalt is SLOW in comparison. The dewalt even sounds crappy while running.
I had a long stint in reno and cabinetry. Used almost every brand, and most cordless. In the beginning of cordless there was 9 volt Makita drill. I have 40 yr old corded Makita tools still working properly. The battery ones to, but the batteries only hold a charge for ten minutes now. You just can't go wrong with Makita all round. Same as the Yamaha brand. Can't lose on bikes, boat motors, stereo, pianos, music equipment, and more. Finally the 18 volts came out. On drills. I had Hitachi, and used Makita, Dewalt, Rigid, Mastercraft, etc., that co-workers had. All of them had crap batteries in the beginning. The LI-on batteries were a game changer for all brands. Almost all now have excellent battery life (years). I have an older (3 yrs) version of the saw above, without the rafter hook. It was $160 on sale at Home Depot in Canada. Goes with my drills and batteries, and even works OK on ply with the tiny 2.0 amph battery. The whole reason for choosing Milwaukee is because of the high quality of their corded tools. What drywaller didn't have a Milwaukee drywall gun, back in the day. Or renovator, having the original Sawzall.
That's a blast from the past! When I started out in GM dealerships in the early 80's, the teal Makita 1/4" drill was the bomb. 7.2volts NiCad at that time. Still have them 40 years later and they still work.
My father was always a Makita man. I was going to go with Makita when it was time to upgrade but their tools were so much more expensive and their quality has gone down every since they started making their tools in China instead of Japan. I know Milwaukee also does this, but I was able to get all new fuel tools for much less on sale and I'm very happy I did! The M12 fuel multi tool alone is worth switching to Milwaukee.
In regards to adapting each saw's arbor to your test rig, can you tap the shaft of the test motor, then attach a drill chuck to it. Then chuck up the saw's arbor like a drill bit. I know the added rotating mass will throw off the numbers a little, but it'll throw them all of virtually the same amount.
Mine arrived yesterday! Got the saw and a 8.0 HO battery for $170 at HD.
How did you get that deal? I see it for $229
@lastminutepanic23 there's a bundle deal that comes with the battery, but also there's a seperate deal to get the tool and a free battery seperate, which you can hack and get the saw for $122
@@deadofnight109 Thank you very much! With that deal it's a really great price
@@deadofnight109 I see on the website that there's a "Free Good" when the tool-only is added to cart, but it doesn't actually offer me the "good" (I assume battery) or add it to my cart for me. Guess I'll have to go in-store :(
@@lastminutepanic23I’ve never seen it at $170. I bought mine it was $229 with battery.
I have the Hikoki 1806DA and it cuts just as good as my corded Makita5007N??? Great you were able to test with all those different blade bolt options.
I own 30 makita cordless 19 batteries between lxt and xgt i recently purchased a milwaukee 10” miter great tool.
Wanted to try the m12 top dog impacts and while they were powerful the drills were so loud and my hand could feel the crazy vibrations after only 10 min of use.
I returned those.
Purchased this 6 1/2 saw with the free 8.0 battery which made it attractvie and i thought 6000 rpm is second highest behind makitas xgt 7 1/4 coming in at 6400rpm.
I also own the 40v makita 6 1/2
This milwaukee 6 1/2 brake is so loud and shrill. The makitas is smooth and quiet. I couldnt listen to the milwaukee my ears are used to the makitas quietness. I purchased the milwaukee 15 gauge. Its badass no complaints i will run all my nailers milwaukee and keep my 10” chop saw.
Everything else makita
Except my 60v dewalt table saw
Crazy how much power they get at this voltage.
This is the best channel ever, keep up the good work ......
The 60 volt wormdrive dewalt circ saw is a beast, we need a wormdrive episode.
I love Fridays....New TTC content ❤
That forge battery is putting in work!
Could we get the 9AH flex volt for any dewalt tools tested? Just curious what the “maximum” of any of them could be even if it’s uncomparable to other packs
Don't have a problem with that on its face. But the few times we've done it, let's say it passes up one of the others with the 9Ah and we post the video. Then people say, well the M18 or Ridgid would have won using a 12Ah! Then if we post that, people say the DeWALT should use the 15ah because it's something neither of them offer. Up and up forever.
@@TorqueTestChannel damn pyramid schemes, can’t escape em
@@TorqueTestChannelCould always do an occassional round up video where you compare the best available batteries in one shot, while keeping the other videos with more reasonable battery choices
@@TorqueTestChannelmakes sense. And let’s be realistic, no one wants to use anything bigger than an 8ah on a handheld tool. I certainly don’t. I would love to see Milwaukee release a 3ah forge
Great test! Maybe pricing on track attachment should be added as a category also? My observation is that the pricing on track sections can vary a lot from brand to brand
Didn't even know Milwaukee had a new 6.5 inch saw I have the old M12 model its been great never seen a M18 6.5 inch saw very nice 0:10 @Torque Test Channel
I'd be interested if you could test Boschs circular saw for metal, the GKM 18V-50. I wonder what the difference is in performance to the typical circular saws for wood
i wonder how their small 165mm circular saws run as well
Good thing you lead off with the explanation of why you haven’t tested the new m12 Stubby. Been checking your channel everyday for that video to drop. Waiting to see if I need to replace my current m12 Stubby.
We post on Fridays if it helps save you some time :P
@@TorqueTestChannel I have a RUclips addiction. 😂
@@TorqueTestChannel just checked again today. Just kidding. I'll check again tomorrow... or maybe Fridays?
CANNOT WAIT for you guys to test rear handle saws and the 10 1/4" 40v makita rear handle.
I would love to see you guys test more craftsman stuff in all categories, i have a couple tools and I want to see how they scale up to these big brands
Would love to see a comparison between the brands that have like a good better best system. Like Milwaukee has the basic brushed tools then they have mid tier brushless, and then they have their fuel lines. It would be interesting to compare price versus Performance to see if there’s really a price savings worth the performance cut
I have the ridgid it’s great if you just need to frame out a bathroom or do some blocking.
If I’m doing real framing I’m using a corded saw.
Lifetime warranty on the ridgid means it’s engineered to last longer
The fact Milwaukee gets “downgraded” for price is ridiculous. Milwaukee ALWAYS has deals and this saw is $122 at Home Depot right now. I’ve never paid full price for one Milwaukee tool and I own over 50 of them. I just used the Home Depot hack to get the m18 6 gallon wet dry vacuum for $110.
Pneumatic grinders would be a great one to watch, in my line of work die grinders to 4” pneumatic grinders are incredibly handy. I’d love to know the difference between expensive brands as Ingersoll Rand and Jet to smaller names such as Aircat and Harbor Freight.
I'm happy I started with rigid years ago. Might not be the absolute best, but all my tools are really good.
I would love to see you test the rear handle saws such as the Makita XGT and DeWalt flex volt 60V rear handle
im surprised the milwaukee won at all with such a huge nagative you gave it for price. i guess it costs money to be soo powerful.
They gave it a huge bonus for higher rpm. They didn't actually test if it cuts faster.
You should try the makita sub compact 6 1/2. That thing rips
I would gladly buy once / cry once for the power of the Milwaukee!
Especially with a metal blade on it!
I've ran metal blades on various circular saws usually cutting heavy stock & they'll destroy themselves quickly.
They really want to r.p.m. >4k.
Milwaukee makes a 5⅜ blade right cold cut metal saw that looks worth it.
...ymmv & if carefully cutting sheet metal, occasionally you might be successful but in my experience the $35+ blades are not economical to run in standard circs for relatively heavy metal cutting.
Wonder what the new forge batteries will do on these high drain tools, the 8 and 12ah are supposed to handle heat better by design. The 12ah forge is supposed to put out more power also.
Can you get the Flex 24v inline 6.5" and compare with the 6AH stacked Lithium vs the M18 with Forge? I think that result would be interesting!
I was really hoping you would include the Flex 6 1/2 inline saw. It actually can cut as deep as 7 1/4 saws due to its unique design.
Yes I have that INLINE FLEX AND IS MY GO TO SAW
@@ericnichols9275same and I have much more expensive ones but the inline is what I always go back too.
Please test the last Gen m18 fuel saw so I can see if it's worth the upgrade
Would lik to see how it compares to the 7&1/4" m18 ones they say compared to a 15amp corded saw if its close then would definitely be worth it!!!!!!!
I bought a Ridgid brushless 71/4 a year and a half ago 5500rpm tool only for $90 (now189).It was to replace to replace well care for USA made porter cable. Plenty of balls, less weight, and cord FREEDOM!
I started using Ridgid's high torque impact about a 6 months ago and it is great. Got it with 2x4AH batteries for $350 CAD which was half the price Milwaukee wanted for their high torque with batteries. Just waiting for a Ridgid angle grinder sale now.
@@rel124c41a in the states, November-end of December best time. I have 12v Milwaukee , 18v ridgid, dewalt 18v framer & 12v driver/drill. Metabo 4v power screw driver kit. All have a specific discipline when I use each from deck building to plastic cover machine removal and find screw install installation and of course in the home use mostly the 12 V.
And personal auto repair and maintenance
Another great episode damn, the things got some good power!!!!
! I Thought Milwaukee also Have a New 7 1/4 out already? would like to See that Too! Thanks!
They've been showing it, like the other new tools we've ordered from pipeline. Not sure it's actually shipping yet
What about starting to dyno cordless string trimmers?
My only complaint with the new Milwaukee saw is the led light. All if my other Milwaukee saws, when you press the trigger lock, the light comes on, helping see the cut line before cutting. With this new version, you have to pull the trigger or at least bump itto get the light to come on. Not something I noticed until making my first cut in low light.
The power curve of Milwaukee says everything. Easy winner.
they really should graduate to integrating the area under the curve! (they sort of did that counting rotations)
@@tedmichjust multiply that with the circumference and you've got the actual work done on a single battery.
Any plans to test 12v ~5.5" circular saws? SKIL makes one, as does DeWalt and Milwaukee (maybe some others too, but I'm not sure about that).
Ridgid's subcompact line is sort of a quiet beast. They don't get a lot of love (except from you guys) but are relatively cheap, pretty powerful, and with lifetime service agreements a good long term investment.
That's what's been great about TTC... If it hasn't been for them, Rigid would still be a "cheap... but _cheap" brand to me! Whereas more we know it's a wolf in sheep's clothing and __*_well_* worth considering! _(or even _*_skip_*_ the consideration and straight up buy it lol)_
They also have 7 1/4 inch gen 3, model 2834-20.
Youve done tests on wrenches, would you ever do a test on sockets?
Just got the m18 6.5 circ. 2833-20 for $129 after returning the battery using the "Home Depot Hack" method of purchasing a "special buy" set. Nothing complicated, just do a store pickup and return the item you don't want.
I believe it is common on milwaukee, it gives you little more power, but it also kills the battery faster, which sometimes is good and sometimes is not
I use the Ryobi 6/in saw hp. Is a small light saw. It has good power for normal cuts. Most of the time I am doing 2x4s 4x4 and 2x6s. It does it well. For diy use it’s great. I use a 4 amp it works good. Thank you for the review. Have a good day!
Why put the blade and eject chute facing the operator? Is there any advantage?
6 1/2 inch circular saws are the way to go in my opinion for the job site. Lighter and smaller one less hand, arm, and wrist fatigue.
I just bought the 2630-80 but it is a refurb. However it was $80 with a warranty.
I definitely want to see the showdown between the flex and Milwaukee
Love your test, pants down and see what they got :) i would be relly interested in more german Brands and the new makita XGT saws. For me as a professional carpenter, brands like mafell and Festool are the way to go, especially for accuracy and additional equpement, but i feel those brads lack in performance :)
My local Walmart had a hyper tough 20v 6.5 inch with 1.5 ah battery a rip fence and their cheap charger for $20 in the clearance section! Can't beat that with a stick
Great video. Do you think you would ever be able to set up a rig to test portable bandsaws?
Can you compare Flex's 6 1/2" Inline Circular Saw to the Milwaukee, Ridgid and others? Its supposedly able to compete with larger 7"+ saws due to its cut and its technology is leading edge with the in-line aspect of it.
As someone who has always used a left handed saw, this feels like a huge win.
If you are looking for ideas… can I use a digital torque adapter, the clutch on my hand drill, and a Sharpie to turn my drill into a powered torque wrench? My assumption is no, but I'd be interested to see what happened if you tried.
Are you looking for like 10 ft-lbs? Despite their marketing, a drill doesn't make all that much torque compared to a wrench
@@TorqueTestChannel I work in electrical, where most of the terminals I have to torque have their specs in in-lbs, and many people scorn impacts for their tendency to over-torque terminations, so that would actually be very useful to me.
Specifically, I work in PV-and 120 in-lbs would cover almost all of the mechanical connections I make, in addition to the electrical ones. I was excited about Milwaukee's torque control impact, but after your testing I decided it wasn't worth pursuing.
You should test the parkside performance tools also
Was waiting for a new upload 😄
Super test , c'est le fun a voir comment la nouvelle milwaukee torche les autres scie sur le marché , j'ai hâte de voir la nouvelle gen 3 sidewinder 😁
I can personally attest to the milwaukee being badass. A lot lighter than you'd expect and plenty powerful to do anything.
I think I would rather have a saw act like the Milwaukee vs. the others.
When I pick it up to rip OSB or whatever, I want it spinning like it always does.
Wish y'all would've included the 6.5 inline flex saw. Has the same or better cut depth than the 7.25 saws.
that's interesting. I'd like to see that one for sure
That's pretty impressive, even considering the price.
Hey @TorqueTestChannel when are you guys going to review the new dewalt powerpack batteries and see how they stack up along with the new hammer drill (dcf1007) ?
So many brands are coming our with tabless cell packs right now, and they all use the same cells. So we likely wont be doing a video per brand on the subject
We need a video on the new gen 3 m12 impact vs the gen 2
Would be interesting with the Bosch tabless batteries.
The Output should also be higher, maybe the saw profits from that.
I wonder how does the Japan only 6 1/2 Makita 40v does compared to this. Also, doesn't t the Bosch track compatible 7 1/4 saw have better performance than the regular sole one?
@@alonsocarrasco5460 why when we have a global 40v makita 6.5 left handed which is more powerful than the one y0u mentioned?
Did you put that Harris/Walz ad at the beginning of this video?
most circular saws are used to cut 2 by what ever with material and lots of time ripping plywood when i had my 36 volt dewalt we used it all day on a single charge best tool ever owned kinda heavy. the most impressive was the recip saw though but would really like to see how this older saw compairs
I skipped this saw because someone recently had a good deal on the larger 2834 with a free 8.0 Forge.
But I gotta say, for most of us a 6.5” saw should likely be the new standard size.
I really like my M12 circ for anything that isn’t 100yr old hardwood 2X although it can handle it decently well.
I’m not a collector but do have my dad’s SKIL. Call me a romantic but I just like the idea of having a circ with “SKIL” on the side.
Bosch has a brushless 6.5 (GKS18V-22LN) which I believe has the same/similar motor as the one used in the 7.25. Any chance you can test that one?
Does the M18 and DeWalt 20v having the battery in the back help at all with weight distribution? I don't know much about wood working or saws but I would think up on a ladder or something, but I would think a more balanced tool would be easier to handle.
I have the feeling that dewalt might make a much bigger circular saw just to be on top of the competitiom just like what they did to the high torque 961 which is supposed to be in 3/4" disguised in 1/2" anvil just to be the stongest 1/2" on the market. Also with their drills and impact drivers which are alot bigger than the competition
I think the Milwaukee 1/2" high torque beats the Dewalt? I thought I saw that on this channel. Both are badass though.
The lack of weight, ergonomics, cut depth, precision and battery life with a 90Wh battery life of a modern 6.5" makes my 7-1/4 obsolete. I will never get another 7-1/4". Someday I would like add a 10" cordless circular saw and completely eliminate any use cases for my 7-1/4". I started with a Milwaukee Cordless 6.5" back in the early days of Ni-Cad batteries. I loved it but the battery life was terrible. Currently I have the Makita XSH03Z 18V LXT Brushless Cordless 6-1/2" Circular Saw and love it for its precision and smoothness. When I need to replace it this new Milwaukee will be at the top of the list. The new Makita 40v XGT are still too pricey.
the dewalt 60v is pretty economical given the ridiculous power it puts out, as far as 10" saws Skilsaw makes the 10 1/4 HVL cordless saw which looks like a beast.
I still have a decades-old Craftsman 7 1/2” saw. It will cut 2” full dimension wood at a 45.
I have the Makita 40v blade left saw with the new tabless 4 amp battery. It is a ridiculously smooth saw that blows this Milwaukee out of the water. Joy to use and worth it’s price.
Would using an infrared thermometer not penalize batteries with good casings, that guide heat to the outside more efficiently? Wouldn't bad casings that isolate the cells from the outside probably show lower external temperatures, but higher internal ones?
229 bare for that M18 is a big ask when the DeWalt Flexvolt 7.25" costs about the same.
I just bought a circ saw but went with a corded one.And I chose the metabo rip max because of it's 6,800 RPM speed...and it's price of around 100 bucks.All the other saws are around 5500 RPM so why not.Its a very well built saw,nothing cheap looking,It is pretty heavy...but boy it really seems like it has massive power compared to my older corded saws..
Isn’t the Bosch equivalent of Milwaukee’s Forge battery ProCore 18V+ - I mean, Bosch’s battery has been selling for quite a while to compare it with the old battery…
Snap-on has new ratchets rated at 80 ft lbs. I'd like to see how close they actually are to that claim on the dyno as well as on the gauntlet. And for the love of all your viewers, test the dcf500!
that ridgid saw kicks ass
Kobalt has a new compact impact wrench. #5645469 it’s in 1/2” 3/8” and 1/4” which is pretty neat. I’m sure it’s just flex but worse but Would be neat to see tested.
How does the Milwaukee m18 Track Saw compare? Asking because I actually have that one, and you guys opened this can of worms!
Good testing video as always 13:00 @Torque Test Channel
I have a 14” top handle Milwaukee chainsaw, and I don’t even bother using the forge battery when cutting large diameter trees or branches. It gets so hot, the saw won’t turn on
Just saw a video on the flex 6 1/2 in saw , cuts as deep or deeper than a 7 1/4 they made the fourth dimension
I mostly use 9" corded by the teal green boys, buy one, don't throw it or drop it more than 6', you'll have it for years. Little saws are fine, but seriously annoying when you need more depth !
That Milwaukee saw has a lot of power, a beauty. However, are you planning to acquire the Bosch 6.5inch Circular Saw, the GKS 18V-22LN to test them along with these and compare it to them?
Any chance you guys could test rotator ratchets? There are a bunch out there like the Proxxon and Sidewinder to the Craftsman and Stanley. I'd love to know their limits.
Will you guys be testing the new powerpack and 20v tools from dewalts xr?
While I appreciate the technical. I own the Bosch GKS18V-25GC (not shown here). It is programable via the connect toolbox app for any rpm under its maximum. Is track ready both fsn and festool. Ripping 2x material single pass with a track is a game changer at elevation or without a tablesaw with glue quality seams. I couldn’t care less about top end rpm as you’ll also burn through your blades. Common sense feeds and speeds are still applicable for both metal and wood.
Still want to see the bigger higher voltage saws (60v) in the mix :)
60v trashes it
😂
I'm a Milwaukee and Makita fan, those Flexvolt tools are nice.
@@BladeDancer314 they are potent, honeslty zero need for corded tools with the power they have.
@@thomasgilliam3104 I would hope so but I’m gonna laugh my ass off if that new 7 1/4 curb stomps the 60 V like Milwaukee claims. But again, Milwaukee has made claims in the past that turned out to not be true