Greetings, First Officer Dirk DeJager here. I appreciate the time and effort put into this clear, concise and succinct documentary that vividly depicts the events of Air Transat Flight 236.
HOLY SHIT. YOU'RE SERIOUS? 22 FUCKEN YEARS AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T MADE CAPTAIN? That is amazing. So that's TWO aviation records in your lifetime. First one for distance gliding and the second one for sucking at what you do. Be proud of both those records. Man, 22 years experience and no company wants you sitting in the big boy chair. You certainly were born with a name for sucking: Durk Dah Jag. Love it.
He has been the only pilot to glide a plane of that size that far, too date, if I am correct. Watching all these different documentaries, if the pilots like this man flying this plane had been flying a lot of the other ones, I don’t think we would have lost some people.
I’ve watched so many of these aircraft stories that my wife is getting irritated about me saying rotate when we start moving off in the car , Fantastic job from the pilot
Absolutely!!! Total greed is the cause of this accident, he said small mistake ! My ass, almost cost 300 deaths and say the had small mistake. Should be larger punishment for this, possibly jail time.
@@michaelmelvin3263 With a penetince program option at current prison labor slave wages ... put 'em to work for US for a change. Start by having 'em dig a few graves for passengers as they are slaughtered by the airline industry. Or perhaps Etching names of the deceased in granite tomb stones. The top CEOs should be personally fined and the money used to pay reparations to the families of the deceased such as those of Ralph Nader's niece.
Here’s a tip stop travelling there’s a global pandemic and is the travellers that are making the virus spread vaccinated or unvaccinated you can still get sick and it still spreads and as long as it spreads it’s not gonna go away
Humanities greed is going to make us all implode on ourselves because this virus it’s just never gonna go away as long as people travel during a pandemic will always have the pandemic and governments will be running our lives in fear mongering Propaganda for the rest of our lives forever dictated
@UCb2PrN5yGVdQis_IsMTEo0w no you are incorrect. It's a numbers game. And a small sphere with 8 billion lives is the real reason for the spread.. besides ppl have to travel! For work, family, for supplies and services.. Picture this scenario.... If your child had a child and you have already waited 2 yrs to see them, meanwhile the China virus rages hard the entire time.. nothing has improved over the entire 2+ yrs now! NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! So.... here we are, current... It's time for some decisions to be made. There aren't many options: #1) You keep waiting around.. maybe, just maybe (if you're an optimist), you decide to keep waiting.. maybe you can meet your grandchild next Christmas... or maybe, you wait & wait. 10 yrs go by and still there's no change. #2) You decide that living your life how you want to is the best decision. Instead of how other people, strangers (like you) want everyone else to act, think, & live.. Who knows what the correct answer is. If there even is 1. All I know is that by next Christmas, every single person will have been dealing with this virus for over 1,000 days.. hell, we're already over 700.. so think about that before crucifying someone for traveling.. postponed events for 700+ days (100 weeks)!
@@brandoballer47 I agree, if we meaning the entire human race stayed inside for 2 weeks. The virus would have either killed it's host or killed itself. This wouldn't be an issue at all.
As a former USAF hydraulic technician, you always have the option to call B.S. on any situation. No matter what you are told to do. Fault falls on whoever signed off on the maintenance logs.
Hey brother USAF. Wonder if inexpensive chafe tape wrap would have at least kept this from happening. We were trained if a piece of paper could fit through near touching parts that it was good. Had my doubts. I worked on fighters. F-4. F-15. F-111. etc.
@@rylanmacdonald6416 My opinion is that the A380 does not have a centerline fuselage fuel tank. Therefore transferring fuel to balance/feed the aircraft went the other wing faulty engine then leaked out to the airstream is nuts. What they need to do is install a portable cargo style fuel cell for emergencies to desperately keep the fuel you have THAN sleeping with the fishes.
But buddy BS can only guide you through phone without knowing exactly what you are going through. At the end of the day you as a pilot need to land the plane in one piece.
@@mike777yeah I'm only an electrician, and you offer a valid solution. It now would become a question of where to mount lightweight spare storage that would not hold fuel unless it was transferred from a leaking source, for instance
As a Boeing pilot I came to some conclusions - purely based on this video: at the moment they had odd engine indications, I'd monitor the engine (presuming that the indications were within normal operating limits) however, I'd be looking for the nearest available airport and start pulling up the weather for that airport as well as alternates. Secondly, as soon as I'm receiving a fuel imbalance on the same side as the engine that is already under suspicion, I would be suspecting a fuel leak, keep that crossfeed closed and point the jet towards the nearest suitable/available airport. If there's any doubt, there's no doubt. The first thing you want to do with a fuel leak is protect what fuel you have remaining and isolate any systems that may be problematic. The computer systems on modern jets are extremely reliable and are very, very rarely incorrect. Disbelief in the systems accuracy is an extremely odd position to adopt from my point of view. As soon as their indications are showing massive fuel loss, why wouldn't they close the crossfeed and stop feeding the leak/action the fuel leak non normal check list?! Nobody (at least from any reputable company) shall hang you for diverting under such circumstances. Again, purely based on what I see in this video, it seems like an acute mishandling of the situation by the flight deck - however they made a good approach.
True. I also wondered why people stuck to their protocol (ie check list) instead of doing the most logic thing under these circumstances namely close the crossfeed valve.
I've always wondered why there aren't simple attitude indicators and fuel indicators that work with floats and gravity. In an emergency when you distrust computers, you can get analog readings. I'm in a similar field very critical, and one of the things I do in similar situations is apply the simple laws of physics to my problem so I can get information I can trust. One of the things that's important is to get information one can totally trust to troubleshoot and work the problem. These guys were frozen in a panic on this problem. Instead of troubleshooting, they started rechecking calculations over and over. For example, if the stewardess had a lamp outside the plane that would light up the engine, she would have seen the leak. Capt. Piquet was on the right track. Trust instruments guys.
I was wondering the exact same thing about cross feeding. Why would you not isolate that engine? Seems pretty logical to isolate that engine after multiple indications that something is faulty.
@@PlateletRichGel suspect it is partly because such indicators only be trustworthy in very 'stable' flight conditions....any trubulance , or 'content shaking' events would render float and gravity mechanical indicators near pointless , but thats just my two cents ontop my head... on the other hand ,i guess some built in sensors in tanks at set lvls could give a garantied 'rough' reading even in turbulence ..then agen its not like these systems are designed or built over night so for every ''lay man common sense'' idea.. there might be 2 or three reasons for why not ;) ...the same way like having 'bulk head gauges & sensors every x lenght of and dual pipes and manual control for pilots '' might sound excellent on papper..but extra weight and the borderline air craft carrier sized control needed for it ehh ^^ this sounds like part of the reason for the situation was management , yet the pilots interesting mix of what sounds like some poor judgement yet decent decisions made parts of the emergency worse ,and other parts of it 'better'
The pilot's first warning was low engine oil temperature and high pressure. Certainly sensors can fail but to have two sensors giving bad signals on a system is highly unlikely. In addition, once the cross feed valve was opened and fuel transferred into the low tank and the fuel level didn't stabalize quickly, the captain should have realized that something else must be happening and shut off the crosscfeed valve!!!
Agreed, using common sense, one could determine that the tank showing as low was losing fuel and the cross feed should have been shut down and the plane flown on one engine, which it is capable of.
@@kjhghhff We have the benefit of after the fact analysis. I don't know the level of understanding of these aircraft systems by the pilots but at least, they should have thought about it but to just turn on the cross feed valve and let it go without monitoring the low tank fuel level was catastrophic!
Your comment was what I was thinking while I was watching. If opening the cross feed made the other tank lose fuel too, that means CLOSE IT BACK quickly.
Are you stupid? Another pilot explains a more probably likeness of those warnings than a fuel leak. Gods gotta love youtube posters. Deaf, dumb & low comprehension skills.
Imagine successfully landing an airplane that had a fuel leak and the airline you work for sues you for saving everyone’s life’s. Screw that air company.
I'm impressed that these heavy planes can glide with no power for that long! But they should have stopped crossbleeding after a while and chanced keeping one engine at least. It wlda bn a less stressful and dangerous situation with one engine.
@Ivan Schlotzky Hey, you have an indication of a fuel leak because transferring fuel from one tank to the other didn't solve the problem at all. Stop the fuel transfer. If it is a computer display error then nothing will happen to the right engine. If the right engine runs out of fuel, then luckily you didn't end up transferring your remaining fuel into a bucket with a hole in it. Either the computers were wrong and there was no problem to begin with. Or the computers were correct and all the visible evidence was that transferring fuel wasn't helping but was depleting your available fuel. (and rapidly at that). Either way, stopping the fuel transfer after a few minutes was an obvious prudent thing to do. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out. The manual even told them to stop the fuel transfer if they thought it was even possible that there was a fuel leak. (and rightly so)
All aircraft are required to fly with 1 engine. Having both out sure F you hard. Just glad people survived most don’t If you look at it. It’s the safest way to travel. More likely to be hit by a bus or lightning
Well those who says shut the crossfeed. It was not on their checklist. If something terrible happen on which we might don't know. If any decisive move out of that freaking manual will.mean end of their flight career. People just tend ti say they should have done this or done that. We all just a passenger of a freaking airplane driven by computerd, and when they fail, it is all bout the pilots experience and handling the situation under pressure. So stop acting as if u all know better. If not, then fly one yourself. Lol
@@MCircuits unfortunately,, you seem to have missed the checklist part in the video where it said......do not cross freed is there is a possible fuel leak.......... The checklist instructed the pilots to exercise judgement. They did not do so.
I've watched this a few times and although I have no idea what they were going through, from what I've seen I don't understand the guy at the end who says "Do I think he's a hero.... No". He saved your life pal. I get there were some mistakes but the pilots did a great job. Maybe I'm missing something.
I think he means the pilots were incredibly professional and resourceful but we’re doing a job where they know this is a potential outcome. I’m an educator and I kind of feel the same way when one of us is lost in a shooter situation, including if I should myself die. We know it’s a possibility and I believe no adult should be in my field if they wouldn’t put their own life in the line to save kids. Sounds harsh, but it’s true and becoming more of a reality in the US all the time. I get what he means…they’re amazing at what they do, they saved lives, but they were doing their jobs. They just did them above and beyond expectations. That’s how I’d feel if I were god forbid in an actual live shooter situation. I’ve been in 4 lockdowns where we had no communication for several minutes and had to assume they were real, so I know, at the least, how it feels to do what I’m trained to do AND improvise as needed…secure the students first, assess potential escape routes, find creative ways to create weapons out of classroom objects (although I already have several in key points around the room because as an art teacher I have access to a lot of tools that COULD become weapons if you know HOW to use them that way), position myself by the door but out of sight so I’m first and then run through all of the self defense and offense tactics I can use to become both a problem and therefore make the room less attractive as a target and to distract from hidden students, ways to quickly and quietly communicate instructions to students as changes occur, evaluate which students are most likely to hold it together so I can appoint a couple of leaders I case i am myself incapacitated and then remember the most important things to communicate to them in a precise and quiet manner-where the best escape routes are, what the best way to fight back is and what to use, to help as many escape as possible, not to worry about me/adult in the room but focus on their peers, to zig zag if they must run, makes sure all phone ringers are turned off…, map out locations of students in my head and memorize it in case there is a need to rescue instead of evacuate so those that follow SWAT can be alerted, review all potential safe houses in the area and communicate directions to the students that can listen, think about where snipers could easily hide if it were a group effort…if I have time sweep the room and hide evidence of students (backpacks, iPads) so it appears I’m on a planning period, have a phone check to ensure they’re all silent, remove my own jewelry and shoes if they’re loud ones, go ahead and have my own phone in my emergency contact mode as my EC text is changed to “SOS intruder -students in room” if I have time so that they can give that info to responders, put my “can’t touch this” tape on my hands so I can fight back or deal with broken glass etc., rehearsing what I could say in my head if the intruder were a student I knew since in some cases intruders or hostage takers can be talked down enough to slow the attack, put the stools under the correct window along with a screwdriver so students can escape that way if needed, use my watch for communication with colleagues if needed so I can use my phone for emergency alerts, turn off the alarm to my own home (it’s two blocks away and In one situation I did in fact give directions and the best access point to the “leader students” as the school’s identified meet up location for evacuations isn’t very secure either and my house would be). Every year I have at least one student in every class point out the obvious-a shooter is most likely a current or former student and already knows the school set up as well as lockdown protocol. That’s why being able to adapt and react is so important and that’s the best answer I can give them. For us it’s not going to be run/hide/fight….hide will have to be first. Then fight. Lastly if it’s possible to escape, run to a specific meeting point in a zig zap fashion, identifying the places along the way that may be safe to hide in if they cannot make it to that location. After that we do the best we can. It’s not a reassuring answer but it’s the truth. I think pilots are in a similar situation. There are a lot of plans in place and a lot of training, but at the end of the day this is a risk of the job and if that’s too much to handle it isn’t the job for you. I get why what he said might upset some people, but I also very much get what he means. They did their job. Exceptionally, and saved lives in the process, but this is what they’re trained to do. And if it’s a scenario they’re not trained for, they’re trained to assess all potential solutions using their professional knowledge.
We're losing fuel. "Must be the computer." We're still losing fuel. "Must be the computer." It's not getting any better. "Must be the computer." Engine number 2 just died. "I still think it's the computer." Those older guys sure as shit have 0 confidence in technology.
Earlier vintage aircraft, like DC -8, DC- 10, 747, L1011, were made up of a 3 man crew, 2 pilots, and a Flight Engineer, who among other things were responsible for all system operations, including fuel. They also had an in-depth knowledge of how these systems were designed and worked. A flight engineer, would have recognized that the high oil pressure, maybe caused by a colder oil temperature. A colder oil temperature could be caused by a higher fuel flow thru the oil / fuel heat exchanger on the engine, which warms the fuel and cools the oil temperature. Hence a leak down stream of the oil fuel heat exchanger. Had the oil temperature risen the leak would have been upstream of the heat exchanger. This is the time the leak started, causing higher fuel flow. At first sign of a fuel imbalance, fuel flow, fuel used, and fuel quantity should have been checked. Doing this would have determined where the leak was coming from. Which Wing tank, or engine? Probably engine leak… to confirm shut down affected engine, pull fire handle to shut off fuel going to engine. Re check fuel quantities again, confirming leak has stopped, then feed operating engine from both tanks. Unfortunately, the trend today, is to teach pilots how to react to a situation, by following the checklist, rather than having an in-depth working knowledge of all the systems. A check list can never cover every situation. The Air Transatlantic pilots did an excellent job, with the tools they had to work with. Most importantly, They saved lives.
@@88njtrigg88 keep in mind the military already has unmanned aircraft armed with bombs that are trusted to differentiate enemies and civilians. Cars without drivers are already in existence. And we have a leader who can't even construct a sentence(which probably means he can't complete a thought) who has the control of the nuclear buttons. It's a literal freak show out there.
Yes, no kidding. They didn't panic, and saved everyone's life. At first I thought this was the video about the plane where a mistake was made by not converting fuel from Imperial to Metric, but this one has a much happier ending.
to be fair, this episode was made before the investigation was fully finished, so I'm not sure if they would've been allowed to talk while the final report was being made.
If you are losing fuel on only one side, shut the crossover off and fly with one engine, they waited until the both engine's stopped before admitting they had a fuel problem
@@berniepfitzner487 turn off the working engine aswell and glide. Like as we all know what happened to the concord. Here the case was a broken pipe shaking in the tank. Which means abrasing around which can cause serious fire.
@@bowwow255 it was on the engine, not the tank. they had changed an engine and used the wrong bracket to separate the fuel and oil lines. the mechanic should have told his supervisor to f*** off, he wasn't going to use the wrong bracket. that's what happens when getting the plane out of maintenance to make money overcomes doing it correctly.
My wife and I waited for North Korean cruise missiles to hit Hawaii. The emergencty alert said we had only minutes to take cover. My wife has only her brother living and they’re not that close. I tried calling my mom in Texas, but all outgoing calls were blocked, which is ridiculous. I finally got through to my nieces on Messenger, they relayed the message to my mom. Incoming calls were not blocked. We talked for 2 minutes. She lives within 90 miles of White Sands Misille Range so if this thing got out of hand, mom could at least evacuate. We said our love yous and I gathered our boy (Kitty) and took him in my arms upstairs where my wife was waitng. I placed our boy between us and he purred loudly as we both pet him. “Jerk. He’s ALREADY in heaven” I told my wife. She smiled, “I love you”. “I love you, too” I said. Then we waited. For 38 minutes we waited. The alert was canceled. The misilles never came. Damn politicians playing games. But I learned something about my wife and I. We know that when we die, we won’t be afraid. There were ppl outside crying and screaming. In town, there was gridlock. In our home, we were at peace.
This episode is uploaded on Wonder's channel but with better sound. Having the sound effects louder than the narration isn't a good choice for a documentary.
250k is a ridiculously small amount…and imagine the PTSD hundreds of the passengers must have suffered…let’s hope the airline was held accountable for these cases as well
That’s just the fine. They probably had to refund every passenger, deal with potential lawsuits, fix the plane, and pay for investigations. No way this incident cost the airline under $1MM, potentially much more with bad press
As far as the fuel situation goes. If before I would have hit the transfer switch. I would have made absolutely sure that there was no leak in the right engine. Considering that is where all the warning signs were pointed to I would have either shut that engine down or let it flame out and keep the fuel and left engine to fly with. Only as a last resort would I have ever reluctantly started transferring fuel to the other tank's...that being said they did absolutely well in getting that plane semi safely on the ground. They had the luck of the Irish on their side that day. And that is all they had going for them.
History is lost to pilots for not remembering Gimli Glider air crash of 1983 also running out of fuel. I doubt pilots have Engineering degrees that would have provided them the logic to deduce fuel leak much earlier rather than dismiss to sensor error.
this is true, but the gimli glider crash wasn't caused by a fuel leak but actually a miscalculation of the amount of fuel added by the fuel truck before the plane left the airport
Gimley glider was at the time in canada where we switch from using english system of measure to french metric system. So fuel man did put only half of the required fuel. It was no leak, but rather of bad training in calculating with the new measure system. Before we used gallon, pounds and miles, and we switche to liter, kilogrammes and kilometer. The fuel man just got mixed up. That is the story of gimley glider.
I just watched this episode on tv.....Congrats to you and Mr.Piche....you both deserve all the accolades. I cannot imagine the stress you both were under while gliding this big bird safely down. The "experts" said you did not trust the computer....well, in that chaotic situation I don't think many other pilots would either!....damn govt investigators...they want to blame who ever they can...they try to make themselves look good to their public.
THIS video ís white wash. Captain Piche's aeronautical history is well documented in public records. Captain Piche learned many of his unorthodox flying skills from the time he was flying, early in his career, drug running from South America to the USA. Drug runners used tricks & skill to land so it looks to radar trackers like their aircraft "dropped out of the sky". Captain Piche used this landing skill to lose speed and land the Air Transat safely. All this is fully documented in public records. Captain Piche retired, still with Air Transat earlier in 2021.
Well actually , it true but false... Robert flew up north Quebec province as a bush pilot ( very very remote area on floats) but in the 80' aviation went low and no more job for pilots, so he took the smuggling job ,but got caught soon after he started that. So it is true that he did smuggled drugs, but the real experience of flying, he got from flying as bush pilot up north. ( you guys might not even be able to imagine the sort of flying you get up here) USA have 100% radar coverage , here in Quebec we dont have 25% of territory which is radar coverage)
OMG i was crying watching this May day my soul has been set free about the time both of the pilot reached the airport this 2 pilot deserves an award more than this because i was in bad mood and thing they are all going to died but God also show their mercy on them by stoping the plane from crash this video made my day great.
Pilots could have cut off leak and fumbled around in denial until the fuel ran out. Other pilot stated they ignore sensors on Airbus aircraft routinely. Must be computer error. Must be frost on the sensor. It’s pathological among many pilots , and these two should be working in fast food.
the captain would have let them all die in the ocean after running it out of fuel, the first officer who was silenced in this 'study' saved all of them, pleading with the idiot captain to at least stay close enough to land to be able to land the plane if/when they ran out of fuel
I have been in several large aircraft crashes over the years, mid air collisions, water landings and fires, I can tell you that every time it happens I am calm and helpful to other passengers. We all die every time, but we are polite and never raise our voices and always kind and courteous. When you are dying? Do not panic.
Thank you for this wonderful reenactment of a terrible situation gone bad to worse, yet saved by the immutable design of the Airbus, that truely deserved the name, and pilot finesse that brought more than 300 people safely to the tarmac. Glory to God!
My wife went to Germany recently and after being 1 hour over water off the East coast there was heavy shaking out of no where then the pilot came over the intercom and said to buckle up that they had to turn back to the United States as there was a "mechanical issue" that required emergency landing. No idea what happened as my wife wasn't given an explanation upon making it back to the states but they deplaned and switched planes entirely. She was so freaked out she said screw it and had me come pick her up. Delta gave us a refund on the 3 tickets for my wife and 2 children and they ended up flying out 2 days later.
The pilots and crew in these videos are absolutely amazing.. The composure they demonstrate is unbelievable.... I really respect them so much... Its amazing the things pilots overcome....true heroes ....i wouldnt get in a plane if I had to for any reason at all. But for those of your who do. I wish you all the safest of travels
@@r0bbyinchins Well in these videos you are correct sometimes..but in this video you`re dead wrong. To open the crossfeed valve and actually just monitor the fuel qty as it gets lower and lower is just mindblowing incompetent🤨
@@r0bbyinchins I'm impressed, definitely heroes so many of the pilots in these videos. I went through a period where I wouldn't fly anymore but I ended up getting over it because of the sheer need for me to travel overseas. I'm always weary of being over long stretches of water for this very reason but these days most of the time I'm going from DFW, LAX, or SFO to ICN the route sticks largely to the coast and is reasonably close to alternate landing points. Every once in a while I get nervous if I'm on a route and we're smack dab in the middle of the ocean. In the event of this video I'd be running up and down the aisle like a maniac I'd be so afraid of ditching in the ocean.
@@ConradSNIPER My wife and I are fortunate to know how we will react when faced with eminent death. We faced incoming North Korean ballistic missiles on Jan 13, 2017. Ppl were crying and screaming outside. In town, there was gridlock. Where's everybody going? We're on an island 3000 miles from the next nearest land mass. After battling blocked outgoing lines and speaking to loved ones on the mainland, my wife and I sat quietly on the bed with our boy between us. He purred loudly as we both pet him. "Jerk. He's ALREADYin heaven" I told my wife. She smiled, "I love you". " I Iove you, too". Then we waited quietly to die. For 38 minutes we waited. We could hear speeding cars, ppl screaming and crying, air raids sirens.....for 38 minutes chaos ensued. But the missiles never came. The emergency alert was canceled. And everyone went on about their business. Rarely to be mentioned again. Funny how only certain tragedies are covered by the media, the ones they DO overcover are accusatory against conservatives. Does anyone know what happened that night in Las Vegas? What about the nonexustent riots? The list goes on, but I won't.
The passenger Marco looks like Prince Jackson(Michaels Son). The audio sounds like when the volume is too loud and you blow your speakers. “No assistance required yet” anytime something goes the slightest bit wrong someone needs to know.
He overlaid airplane sounds and added echo to interviews because he's uploading copyrighted material and is trying to avoid youtube's detection algorithm. He murdered the audio.
Very well done. I know nothing about airplanes except what I've learned on RUclips which is more than I wanted to know. I used to fly when I was working 30 years or so ago. Most of the piloting was done by the pilots, I guess, and not sophisticated computers. The only thing that amazes me about the Airbus, a highly computerized plane, is that among the dozens of sensors not one of them informs the pilots that there is a fuel leak. The sensors inform them indirectly that they are low on fuel but not why. These pilots did an incredible job of flying that plane to safety in spite of very difficult circumstances. Lastly, as usual, there was a series of minor errors which led to a near catastrophe.
I would never risk my life or my passenger's life. If I even had a suspicion of a fuel leak I would stop transferring fuel and declare an emergency. This is why I hate flying, I don't fly if I don't have to. You never know who is up in the cockpit and how arrogant and ignorant they are. People say it's safer than driving or whatever the statistics are I don't want to be that one statistic. This is why I'm going to take a train to Hawaii next time I go.
Are you sure they don't? I am not a pilot and don't know; but based upon what I just watched and and then read, a fuel flow meter wouldn't have made a lot of difference as it measures an engines fuel use in real time. The fuel reports _showed_ fuel starvation as they should but the pilots were hoping it was a computer error and continued the cross feed as there was no alternative procedure. The engines were using a normal amount of fuel, cross valves were working as expected, and there was simply not enough to keep them running once it all leaked out from the bottom. Perhaps if they had known what had happened when the first engine burned out they could have stopped the cross feed , but they didn't know. At least that's my take, unless I'm missing something?
Great story! A question that comes to my mind is why did Rolls Royce not include a hydraulic pump assembly with the new replacement engine? The maintenance department was probably not aware they needed one I'm guessing. Not saying they are totally to blame but should share responsibility.
Continental used to run transatlantic flights from EWR to London using boeing 757's. Range wise west to east was fine. On rare occasions if they ran into unusually strong headwinds on the return to EWR, they would have to divert to Gander to refuel. A friend who flew this route frequently, told he experienced this.
@@njdxnjdx Actually, in a discussion about near tragedies resulting from a shortage fuel on transatlantic flights it is highly relevant. Especially since Gander is no longer operational. Many a plane was saved by landing at Gander due to some emergency including dozens when transatlantic flights were diverted from the U.S. in the hours after 9/11.
Airbus is crazy. It makes sense what the pilots did, although they could have stopped pumping fuel earlier. It is always 20/20 in hind sight. They did what was necessary.
It's safer than a boat, buses can't, leaving airplanes are our only real choice. I feel so safe when I'm up there. I last flew about three months ago and slept through the whole trip including takeoff. The flight attendant woke me when we got there.
passengers should be thanking god that told the controller to tell the captain to fly 60 miles south of the normal flight path.. that’s what saved the place .. please people around the world believe in him.. god almighty ..
Is the audio producer on vacation or something? Did someone accidentally overlay the mixed-down audio track with the original audio from the reenactment with an offset of like .05 seconds?
As long as there are humans there will be mistakes. Pilots did an amazing life changing job. Engineers corrected their design flaw. Let’s end that there. I mean who was the benefactor to the fines? Did the traumatized passengers receive compensation? Great story. Course has been corrected. Let’s move on.
The chances of survival here were not good. There is plenty to be learned from this one. Wow! Congratulations on a safe landing because that was certainly on a wing and a prayer!
what about a pilot that flew for hours with fuel pouring out and kept balancing tanks, shut off the engine that is taking all the fuel and continue on one engine.
As a former Indian Air Force Maintenance Engineer great applause to all crews specifically to Pilots for their cool spine n high level of expertise to handle such a critical emergency which could have been a catastrophic accident. Amazing save! At the same time this is to opine that such negligence in maintenance of aviation system neither expected nor accepted, it is serious offence in the part of maintenance engineers
When two or more independent sensors (in this case temperature and pressure) indicate abnormal readings that are related, it couldn't be a false alarm.
@@michaelmelvin3263 Of course it would be a major warning but it would be a major warning that something is wrong not a major warning about a fuel leak. Like the pilot in the commentary said; 1. Low oil temperature is indicative of a bad sensor and be of no concern. 2. High oil pressure is very strange and unusual and is normally about contamination of oil with fuel. They were advised to keep monitoring their oil levels as they suspected an oil leak and not a fuel leak since the fuel gauge was still okay at that point. They never ignored the 2nd alarm.
I’ve seen this video with clearer audio on another channel called ‘Wonder’ months back. I thought this is a ‘new’ documentary. Is this channel owned by Wonder too?
They did the best they could based on their training at the time. It's easy to second guess their decisions after the fact. Being under so much pressure they remained calm and ultimately landed the plane with NO power safely. All passengers were safe. I call that a win.
Theoretically the captain was at fault as he/she is responsible to do a check on the plane prior to take-off but nowadays that can never be more than a walk around the external parts of the plane-if the pilot actually took time to check every working component on a plane no modern day flight would ever make it into the air. Therefore, pilots take to the air based on a reliance that the maintenance crew have done their job. The pilots in this instance reacted brilliantly when the engines cut out-credit where credit is due!
My heart goes out to those who were in that terror, it is disgusting how this had happened under who was suppose to not make it happen, person's at the head of maintenance. These maintenance person's should have been properly fined
mayday, mayday...we've run out of fuel...because our pilots don't know what they're doing! - is this the one with a fuel leak in one engine, and the pilot turns on the cross-feed, allowing all the fuel to exit the plane? - yes, it is. this one must be known to all pilots by now? - probably not.
Yeah in that case the person who deployed fuel imbalance warning should be picked first. Pilot kept remembering that the leakage got checked only smtym back.
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Greetings, First Officer Dirk DeJager here. I appreciate the time and effort put into this clear, concise and succinct documentary that vividly depicts the events of Air Transat Flight 236.
Why you’ve rejected to participate in the episode? Your opinion as a direct witness is extremely important.
Congratulations sir, hats off
HOLY SHIT. YOU'RE SERIOUS? 22 FUCKEN YEARS AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T MADE CAPTAIN? That is amazing. So that's TWO aviation records in your lifetime. First one for distance gliding and the second one for sucking at what you do. Be proud of both those records. Man, 22 years experience and no company wants you sitting in the big boy chair. You certainly were born with a name for sucking: Durk Dah Jag. Love it.
Flight Simulator doesn't count. There aren't any good Payware aircraft for the Airbus A330, anyway.
Hello Sir, Why don’t you share Videos about aviation. Thanks 🙏
Whoever mixed the Audio totally blew it. Background drowned out the vocal script for a huge percentage.
Audio engineers noticed but attriubuted to computer error and ignored.
Seemed like there was reverb in the voices.
Computer error.
was searching thru this in comments and voila ..
Hey thanks. I just thought I was drinking too much! 😂🤣
This episode sounds like it took place within a PVC pipe
Spot on
Like,totally tubular!
Yep
I thought it was just me lol sounds bad
@@suzakule they forgot to add tubular background music to it
The audio needs fixing!!!
He has been the only pilot to glide a plane of that size that far, too date, if I am correct. Watching all these different documentaries, if the pilots like this man flying this plane had been flying a lot of the other ones, I don’t think we would have lost some people.
Hats off to the Pilots and crew. Respect and love for you.
eh lets not praise the pilots for surviving since they created the problem in the first place.
Yeah the pilot is my papa 😂
Kudos to both the pilots and the crew as well! You've all done a fab job saving lives of 306 souls...
No, they did a horrible job☝🏻🤨
That passenger's statement at the end about the captain sums it up exactly. Not a hero but a hell of a pilot.
I’ve watched so many of these aircraft stories that my wife is getting irritated about me saying rotate when we start moving off in the car , Fantastic job from the pilot
Hahaha! 😀😀😀✈
bs, the captain left to his own would have taken this plane and flight into the ocean and killed them all
V1
Mine gets mad at me when I say retard, retard lol
No V1 first?
The mechanics were qualified, aware, concerned and brought it to management's attention. Penny pinching management was at fault.
Passenger safety is determined by corporate profit and greed. Arrest the secretary of transportation.
Absolutely!!! Total greed is the cause of this accident, he said small mistake ! My ass, almost cost 300 deaths and say the had small mistake. Should be larger punishment for this, possibly jail time.
General Strike! Now or Never!
@@michaelmelvin3263 With a penetince program option at current prison labor slave wages ... put 'em to work for US for a change. Start by having 'em dig a few graves for passengers as they are slaughtered by the airline industry. Or perhaps Etching names of the deceased in granite tomb stones. The top CEOs should be personally fined and the money used to pay reparations to the families of the deceased such as those of Ralph Nader's niece.
Pilot error
Why this sound like it was recorded in a toaster
Please fix the echo in the audio.
It's so easy to comment on their response but in the moment it's their reaction that saved lives on the end.
These types of videos show up usually a week before I am flying somewhere for some reason. The ones that do never end up as well as this one.
Here’s a tip stop travelling there’s a global pandemic and is the travellers that are making the virus spread vaccinated or unvaccinated you can still get sick and it still spreads and as long as it spreads it’s not gonna go away
Humanities greed is going to make us all implode on ourselves because this virus it’s just never gonna go away as long as people travel during a pandemic will always have the pandemic and governments will be running our lives in fear mongering Propaganda for the rest of our lives forever dictated
You'll be fine. Most of these accidents were 20+ years ago unless you happen to be flying on an old russian turboprop lol
@UCb2PrN5yGVdQis_IsMTEo0w no you are incorrect. It's a numbers game. And a small sphere with 8 billion lives is the real reason for the spread.. besides ppl have to travel! For work, family, for supplies and services..
Picture this scenario....
If your child had a child and you have already waited 2 yrs to see them, meanwhile the China virus rages hard the entire time.. nothing has improved over the entire 2+ yrs now! NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!
So.... here we are, current...
It's time for some decisions to be made. There aren't many options:
#1) You keep waiting around.. maybe, just maybe (if you're an optimist), you decide to keep waiting.. maybe you can meet your grandchild next Christmas... or maybe, you wait & wait. 10 yrs go by and still there's no change.
#2) You decide that living your life how you want to is the best decision. Instead of how other people, strangers (like you) want everyone else to act, think, & live..
Who knows what the correct answer is. If there even is 1. All I know is that by next Christmas, every single person will have been dealing with this virus for over 1,000 days.. hell, we're already over 700.. so think about that before crucifying someone for traveling.. postponed events for 700+ days (100 weeks)!
@@brandoballer47 I agree, if we meaning the entire human race stayed inside for 2 weeks. The virus would have either killed it's host or killed itself. This wouldn't be an issue at all.
This video sounds like it was recorded inside of a bathroom inside of a tunnel inside of a tube
As a former USAF hydraulic technician, you always have the option to call B.S. on any situation. No matter what you are told to do. Fault falls on whoever signed off on the maintenance logs.
Hey brother USAF. Wonder if inexpensive chafe tape wrap would have at least kept this from happening. We were trained if a piece of paper could fit through near touching parts that it was good. Had my doubts. I worked on fighters. F-4. F-15. F-111. etc.
Yeah, blame mx. F it right?
@@rylanmacdonald6416 My opinion is that the A380 does not have a centerline fuselage fuel tank. Therefore transferring fuel to balance/feed the aircraft went the other wing faulty engine then leaked out to the airstream is nuts. What they need to do is install a portable cargo style fuel cell for emergencies to desperately keep the fuel you have THAN sleeping with the fishes.
But buddy BS can only guide you through phone without knowing exactly what you are going through. At the end of the day you as a pilot need to land the plane in one piece.
@@mike777yeah
I'm only an electrician, and you offer a valid solution. It now would become a question of where to mount lightweight spare storage that would not hold fuel unless it was transferred from a leaking source, for instance
As a Boeing pilot I came to some conclusions - purely based on this video: at the moment they had odd engine indications, I'd monitor the engine (presuming that the indications were within normal operating limits) however, I'd be looking for the nearest available airport and start pulling up the weather for that airport as well as alternates.
Secondly, as soon as I'm receiving a fuel imbalance on the same side as the engine that is already under suspicion, I would be suspecting a fuel leak, keep that crossfeed closed and point the jet towards the nearest suitable/available airport. If there's any doubt, there's no doubt.
The first thing you want to do with a fuel leak is protect what fuel you have remaining and isolate any systems that may be problematic.
The computer systems on modern jets are extremely reliable and are very, very rarely incorrect. Disbelief in the systems accuracy is an extremely odd position to adopt from my point of view.
As soon as their indications are showing massive fuel loss, why wouldn't they close the crossfeed and stop feeding the leak/action the fuel leak non normal check list?! Nobody (at least from any reputable company) shall hang you for diverting under such circumstances.
Again, purely based on what I see in this video, it seems like an acute mishandling of the situation by the flight deck - however they made a good approach.
True. I also wondered why people stuck to their protocol (ie check list) instead of doing the most logic thing under these circumstances namely close the crossfeed valve.
You said it all. The pilot's judgement was poor. He should have never cross-fed the other engine since he can use one engine successfully.
I've always wondered why there aren't simple attitude indicators and fuel indicators that work with floats and gravity. In an emergency when you distrust computers, you can get analog readings. I'm in a similar field very critical, and one of the things I do in similar situations is apply the simple laws of physics to my problem so I can get information I can trust. One of the things that's important is to get information one can totally trust to troubleshoot and work the problem. These guys were frozen in a panic on this problem. Instead of troubleshooting, they started rechecking calculations over and over. For example, if the stewardess had a lamp outside the plane that would light up the engine, she would have seen the leak. Capt. Piquet was on the right track. Trust instruments guys.
I was wondering the exact same thing about cross feeding. Why would you not isolate that engine? Seems pretty logical to isolate that engine after multiple indications that something is faulty.
@@PlateletRichGel suspect it is partly because such indicators only be trustworthy in very 'stable' flight conditions....any trubulance , or 'content shaking' events would render float and gravity mechanical indicators near pointless , but thats just my two cents ontop my head...
on the other hand ,i guess some built in sensors in tanks at set lvls could give a garantied 'rough' reading even in turbulence ..then agen its not like these systems are designed or built over night so for every ''lay man common sense'' idea.. there might be 2 or three reasons for why not ;) ...the same way like having 'bulk head gauges & sensors every x lenght of and dual pipes and manual control for pilots '' might sound excellent on papper..but extra weight and the borderline air craft carrier sized control needed for it ehh ^^
this sounds like part of the reason for the situation was management , yet the pilots interesting mix of what sounds like some poor judgement yet decent decisions made parts of the emergency worse ,and other parts of it 'better'
51:07 "Do I think he's a hero?....No" Says the guy who is only alive because the pilot landed safely. These people need a reality check.
The pilot's first warning was low engine oil temperature and high pressure. Certainly sensors can fail but to have two sensors giving bad signals on a system is highly unlikely. In addition, once the cross feed valve was opened and fuel transferred into the low tank and the fuel level didn't stabalize quickly, the captain should have realized that something else must be happening and shut off the crosscfeed valve!!!
Agreed, using common sense, one could determine that the tank showing as low was losing fuel and the cross feed should have been shut down and the plane flown on one engine, which it is capable of.
@@kjhghhff We have the benefit of after the fact analysis. I don't know the level of understanding of these aircraft systems by the pilots but at least, they should have thought about it but to just turn on the cross feed valve and let it go without monitoring the low tank fuel level was catastrophic!
Your comment was what I was thinking while I was watching. If opening the cross feed made the other tank lose fuel too, that means CLOSE IT BACK quickly.
You guys pilots ? 😂
Are you stupid? Another pilot explains a more probably likeness of those warnings than a fuel leak. Gods gotta love youtube posters. Deaf, dumb & low comprehension skills.
sound effects way too loud :/
I hope I never see my flight attendant pointing a flashlight out of the window at 35,000 feet.😮
Me too, that would freak me out.
Its not ideal!
@@NathanChisholm041 IKR?!😉
You never know, flying is riskier than ever today
@@WorkWizdom um.. how? Source ?
Imagine successfully landing an airplane that had a fuel leak and the airline you work for sues you for saving everyone’s life’s. Screw that air company.
For those having a hard time understanding the people talking in some parts of the video, click the CC button. It's not perfect but it can help a lot.
^ Yeah, the music is WAY too loud in many points.
I'm impressed that these heavy planes can glide with no power for that long! But they should have stopped crossbleeding after a while and chanced keeping one engine at least. It wlda bn a less stressful and dangerous situation with one engine.
@Ivan Schlotzky Hey, you have an indication of a fuel leak because transferring fuel from one tank to the other didn't solve the problem at all. Stop the fuel transfer.
If it is a computer display error then nothing will happen to the right engine. If the right engine runs out of fuel, then luckily you didn't end up transferring your remaining fuel into a bucket with a hole in it.
Either the computers were wrong and there was no problem to begin with. Or the computers were correct and all the visible evidence was that transferring fuel wasn't helping but was depleting your available fuel. (and rapidly at that).
Either way, stopping the fuel transfer after a few minutes was an obvious prudent thing to do. You don't have to be a genius to figure that out. The manual even told them to stop the fuel transfer if they thought it was even possible that there was a fuel leak. (and rightly so)
All aircraft are required to fly with 1 engine. Having both out sure F you hard. Just glad people survived most don’t If you look at it. It’s the safest way to travel. More likely to be hit by a bus or lightning
Well those who says shut the crossfeed. It was not on their checklist. If something terrible happen on which we might don't know. If any decisive move out of that freaking manual will.mean end of their flight career.
People just tend ti say they should have done this or done that.
We all just a passenger of a freaking airplane driven by computerd, and when they fail, it is all bout the pilots experience and handling the situation under pressure.
So stop acting as if u all know better. If not, then fly one yourself. Lol
@@MCircuits unfortunately,, you seem to have missed the checklist part in the video where it said......do not cross freed is there is a possible fuel leak.......... The checklist instructed the pilots to exercise judgement. They did not do so.
So happy for everyone on board and their families. God bless! :-)
It wasn't god who saved those people it was the amazing skills of the piolets
@@r0bbyinchins now look at you
@@justinojara9169 look at me for what???
I've watched this a few times and although I have no idea what they were going through, from what I've seen I don't understand the guy at the end who says "Do I think he's a hero.... No". He saved your life pal. I get there were some mistakes but the pilots did a great job. Maybe I'm missing something.
The pilots did a great job, and are hero's, but as usual big companies will nit say that, as they might have to pay a few bucks more.
@@tonyfurneaux3399 If your crossfeed valve is ON after you`ve seen a fuel drop in one of the wing tanks you actually must take some of the blame..
Guys who lose their hair in their 20's tend to be cynical
I think he means the pilots were incredibly professional and resourceful but we’re doing a job where they know this is a potential outcome. I’m an educator and I kind of feel the same way when one of us is lost in a shooter situation, including if I should myself die. We know it’s a possibility and I believe no adult should be in my field if they wouldn’t put their own life in the line to save kids. Sounds harsh, but it’s true and becoming more of a reality in the US all the time. I get what he means…they’re amazing at what they do, they saved lives, but they were doing their jobs. They just did them above and beyond expectations. That’s how I’d feel if I were god forbid in an actual live shooter situation. I’ve been in 4 lockdowns where we had no communication for several minutes and had to assume they were real, so I know, at the least, how it feels to do what I’m trained to do AND improvise as needed…secure the students first, assess potential escape routes, find creative ways to create weapons out of classroom objects (although I already have several in key points around the room because as an art teacher I have access to a lot of tools that COULD become weapons if you know HOW to use them that way), position myself by the door but out of sight so I’m first and then run through all of the self defense and offense tactics I can use to become both a problem and therefore make the room less attractive as a target and to distract from hidden students, ways to quickly and quietly communicate instructions to students as changes occur, evaluate which students are most likely to hold it together so I can appoint a couple of leaders I case i am myself incapacitated and then remember the most important things to communicate to them in a precise and quiet manner-where the best escape routes are, what the best way to fight back is and what to use, to help as many escape as possible, not to worry about me/adult in the room but focus on their peers, to zig zag if they must run, makes sure all phone ringers are turned off…, map out locations of students in my head and memorize it in case there is a need to rescue instead of evacuate so those that follow SWAT can be alerted, review all potential safe houses in the area and communicate directions to the students that can listen, think about where snipers could easily hide if it were a group effort…if I have time sweep the room and hide evidence of students (backpacks, iPads) so it appears I’m on a planning period, have a phone check to ensure they’re all silent, remove my own jewelry and shoes if they’re loud ones, go ahead and have my own phone in my emergency contact mode as my EC text is changed to “SOS intruder -students in room” if I have time so that they can give that info to responders, put my “can’t touch this” tape on my hands so I can fight back or deal with broken glass etc., rehearsing what I could say in my head if the intruder were a student I knew since in some cases intruders or hostage takers can be talked down enough to slow the attack, put the stools under the correct window along with a screwdriver so students can escape that way if needed, use my watch for communication with colleagues if needed so I can use my phone for emergency alerts, turn off the alarm to my own home (it’s two blocks away and In one situation I did in fact give directions and the best access point to the “leader students” as the school’s identified meet up location for evacuations isn’t very secure either and my house would be). Every year I have at least one student in every class point out the obvious-a shooter is most likely a current or former student and already knows the school set up as well as lockdown protocol. That’s why being able to adapt and react is so important and that’s the best answer I can give them. For us it’s not going to be run/hide/fight….hide will have to be first. Then fight. Lastly if it’s possible to escape, run to a specific meeting point in a zig zap fashion, identifying the places along the way that may be safe to hide in if they cannot make it to that location. After that we do the best we can. It’s not a reassuring answer but it’s the truth. I think pilots are in a similar situation. There are a lot of plans in place and a lot of training, but at the end of the day this is a risk of the job and if that’s too much to handle it isn’t the job for you.
I get why what he said might upset some people, but I also very much get what he means. They did their job. Exceptionally, and saved lives in the process, but this is what they’re trained to do. And if it’s a scenario they’re not trained for, they’re trained to assess all potential solutions using their professional knowledge.
We're losing fuel.
"Must be the computer."
We're still losing fuel.
"Must be the computer."
It's not getting any better.
"Must be the computer."
Engine number 2 just died.
"I still think it's the computer."
Those older guys sure as shit have 0 confidence in technology.
very good landing and good to know all the passengers and crew members were safe.👍️
Earlier vintage aircraft, like DC -8, DC- 10, 747, L1011, were made up of a 3 man crew, 2 pilots, and a Flight Engineer, who among other things were responsible for all system operations, including fuel. They also had an in-depth knowledge of how these systems were designed and worked. A flight engineer, would have recognized that the high oil pressure, maybe caused by a colder oil temperature. A colder oil temperature could be caused by a higher fuel flow thru the oil / fuel heat exchanger on the engine, which warms the fuel and cools the oil temperature. Hence a leak down stream of the oil fuel heat exchanger. Had the oil temperature risen the leak would have been upstream of the heat exchanger. This is the time the leak started, causing higher fuel flow. At first sign of a fuel imbalance, fuel flow, fuel used, and fuel quantity should have been checked. Doing this would have determined where the leak was coming from. Which Wing tank, or engine? Probably engine leak… to confirm shut down affected engine, pull fire handle to shut off fuel going to engine. Re check fuel quantities again, confirming leak has stopped, then feed operating engine from both tanks. Unfortunately, the trend today, is to teach pilots how to react to a situation, by following the checklist, rather than having an in-depth working knowledge of all the systems. A check list can never cover every situation. The Air Transatlantic pilots did an excellent job, with the tools they had to work with. Most importantly, They saved lives.
747 best plane ever to date
The OP comment has made me reflect on how Airbus are now conducting research into one pilot only !??
The third man costs money and they are all about profit. Sad really
@@88njtrigg88 keep in mind the military already has unmanned aircraft armed with bombs that are trusted to differentiate enemies and civilians. Cars without drivers are already in existence. And we have a leader who can't even construct a sentence(which probably means he can't complete a thought) who has the control of the nuclear buttons. It's a literal freak show out there.
Ohhh..yeah
That pilot is a rock star! How the hell did he glide an AirBus and land it?
Hooray to those inexperienced pilots. You were faced with THIS IS YOUR MOMENT TO MAKE IT WORK. I’m very proud of you both.
Yes, no kidding. They didn't panic, and saved everyone's life. At first I thought this was the video about the plane where a mistake was made by not converting fuel from Imperial to Metric, but this one has a much happier ending.
@@robertbruner7429 that one everyone lived too.
If your crossfeed valve is ON after you`ve seen a fuel drop in one of the wing tanks you actually must take some of the blame..
The pilots made egregious errors and almost killed everyone.
Who said the Captain was inexperienced?
You always know it’s a bad sign when no one from the accident will comment on what happened.
to be fair, this episode was made before the investigation was fully finished, so I'm not sure if they would've been allowed to talk while the final report was being made.
@@OwlRTA oh that’s interesting to note, makes sense then
if it was really bad nobody would be alive to comment
If you are losing fuel on only one side, shut the crossover off and fly with one engine, they waited until the both engine's stopped before admitting they had a fuel problem
That causes bank angle and imbalance.
@@bowwow255 what would you rather?
A: fly on one engine. Make an emergency landing.
Or
B: Die.
@@berniepfitzner487 turn off the working engine aswell and glide. Like as we all know what happened to the concord. Here the case was a broken pipe shaking in the tank. Which means abrasing around which can cause serious fire.
@@bowwow255 it was on the engine, not the tank. they had changed an engine and used the wrong bracket to separate the fuel and oil lines. the mechanic should have told his supervisor to f*** off, he wasn't going to use the wrong bracket. that's what happens when getting the plane out of maintenance to make money overcomes doing it correctly.
@@bowwow255 A A380 does not have a center fuel cell to transfer to it?
My wife and I waited for North Korean cruise missiles to hit Hawaii. The emergencty alert said we had only minutes to take cover. My wife has only her brother living and they’re not that close. I tried calling my mom in Texas, but all outgoing calls were blocked, which is ridiculous. I finally got through to my nieces on Messenger, they relayed the message to my mom. Incoming calls were not blocked. We talked for 2 minutes. She lives within 90 miles of White Sands Misille Range so if this thing got out of hand, mom could at least evacuate. We said our love yous and I gathered our boy
(Kitty) and took him in my arms upstairs where my wife was waitng.
I placed our boy between us and he purred loudly as we both pet him.
“Jerk. He’s ALREADY in heaven” I told my wife. She smiled, “I love you”.
“I love you, too” I said. Then we waited. For 38 minutes we waited. The alert was canceled. The misilles never came. Damn politicians playing games. But I learned something about my wife and I. We know that when we die, we won’t be afraid. There were ppl outside crying and screaming. In town, there was gridlock. In our home, we were at peace.
You completely murdered the audio on this video by introducing echo and overlaying loud airplane sounds.
OMG I went to school with the passenger Daniel Rodrigues. We went to St. Matthews and archbishop Romero. Glad to see you alive.
Despite actual passengers recounting the event, I found this quite nerve racking to watch !
Imagine what the passengers and flight crew went through
All airlines need someone who can say "I don't care what it costs, I want it done".
Fantastic pilot's. I would feel very safe to have either one flying a plane. Their knowledge is priceless.
What!?🤨🤪
Not really avoiding all those warnings..they should've got fired.
Lol i would trust the autopilot more than these two
@@BSenta 😆 🤣
Right engine shuts off
Pilots: computer error
Plane crashes into ocean
Pilots: computer error
This episode is uploaded on Wonder's channel but with better sound. Having the sound effects louder than the narration isn't a good choice for a documentary.
250k is a ridiculously small amount…and imagine the PTSD hundreds of the passengers must have suffered…let’s hope the airline was held accountable for these cases as well
That’s just the fine. They probably had to refund every passenger, deal with potential lawsuits, fix the plane, and pay for investigations. No way this incident cost the airline under $1MM, potentially much more with bad press
One of my favorite episodes of mayday.
Me too
How the backround is louder than the narrator
Yes my fav also. So much suspense and well acted.
Out of 306 passengers they only have one person being interviewed wow!!!
WOW what a strange comment. Not surprised based on Leon past. 🤣
As far as the fuel situation goes. If before I would have hit the transfer switch. I would have made absolutely sure that there was no leak in the right engine. Considering that is where all the warning signs were pointed to I would have either shut that engine down or let it flame out and keep the fuel and left engine to fly with. Only as a last resort would I have ever reluctantly started transferring fuel to the other tank's...that being said they did absolutely well in getting that plane semi safely on the ground. They had the luck of the Irish on their side that day. And that is all they had going for them.
History is lost to pilots for not remembering Gimli Glider air crash of 1983 also running out of fuel. I doubt pilots have Engineering degrees that would have provided them the logic to deduce fuel leak much earlier rather than dismiss to sensor error.
this is true, but the gimli glider crash wasn't caused by a fuel leak but actually a miscalculation of the amount of fuel added by the fuel truck before the plane left the airport
Gimley glider was at the time in canada where we switch from using english system of measure to french metric system. So fuel man did put only half of the required fuel. It was no leak, but rather of bad training in calculating with the new measure system. Before we used gallon, pounds and miles, and we switche to liter, kilogrammes and kilometer. The fuel man just got mixed up. That is the story of gimley glider.
I just watched this episode on tv.....Congrats to you and Mr.Piche....you both deserve all the accolades. I cannot imagine the stress you both were under while gliding this big bird safely down. The "experts" said you did not trust the computer....well, in that chaotic situation I don't think many other pilots would either!....damn govt investigators...they want to blame who ever they can...they try to make themselves look good to their public.
THIS video ís white wash. Captain Piche's aeronautical history is well documented in public records.
Captain Piche learned many of his unorthodox flying skills from the time he was flying, early in his career, drug running from South America to the USA. Drug runners used tricks & skill to land so it looks to radar trackers like their aircraft "dropped out of the sky".
Captain Piche used this landing skill to lose speed and land the Air Transat safely. All this is fully documented in public records.
Captain Piche retired, still with Air Transat earlier in 2021.
Well actually , it true but false... Robert flew up north Quebec province as a bush pilot ( very very remote area on floats) but in the 80' aviation went low and no more job for pilots, so he took the smuggling job ,but got caught soon after he started that. So it is true that he did smuggled drugs, but the real experience of flying, he got from flying as bush pilot up north. ( you guys might not even be able to imagine the sort of flying you get up here) USA have 100% radar coverage , here in Quebec we dont have 25% of territory which is radar coverage)
"I don't think these airplanes would make very good boats" Sorry, I just had to laugh at this.
^ lol, yeah, it's similar to how in Poseidon, they say "well, these boats weren't designed to float upside down"..
Passenger safety is determined by corporate profit and greed. Arrest the secretary of transportation.
sully's a320 didn't sink in the hudson...it was towed to a dock and then lifted out of the water.
OMG i was crying watching this May day my soul has been set free about the time both of the pilot reached the airport this 2 pilot deserves an award more than this because i was in bad mood and thing they are all going to died but God also show their mercy on them by stoping the plane from crash this video made my day great.
News flash..there is no God. If there ever was he is dead now..
Pilots could have cut off leak and fumbled around in denial until the fuel ran out. Other pilot stated they ignore sensors on Airbus aircraft routinely. Must be computer error. Must be frost on the sensor. It’s pathological among many pilots , and these two should be working in fast food.
@@speedbird9313 & you know this how?
@@296skipweldReality of life..
@@speedbird9313 a fool says in his heart that there is no God and God's don't die, our human flesh does.
That pilot knew what he was doing. Hell of a pilot.
Actually he didnt🤨
the captain would have let them all die in the ocean after running it out of fuel, the first officer who was silenced in this 'study' saved all of them, pleading with the idiot captain to at least stay close enough to land to be able to land the plane if/when they ran out of fuel
I have been in several large aircraft crashes over the years, mid air collisions, water landings and fires,
I can tell you that every time it happens I am calm and helpful to other passengers.
We all die every time, but we are polite and never raise our voices and always kind and courteous.
When you are dying?
Do not panic.
Thank you for this wonderful reenactment of a terrible situation gone bad to worse, yet saved by the immutable design of the Airbus, that truely deserved the name, and pilot finesse that brought more than 300 people safely to the tarmac. Glory to God!
You also have American flight 96 which lost it's cargo door while still climbing, they managed to land without anyone getting killed.
Glory to the pilots
@@openphoto, how do you know?
@@stevenrais9360, everyone has to make their choice, who will they serve and who will they give glory to. You made your choice and I made mine.
@@patriciamariemitchel yeah, guess you give God credit for things that should go to men or women. You do them a disservice
My wife went to Germany recently and after being 1 hour over water off the East coast there was heavy shaking out of no where then the pilot came over the intercom and said to buckle up that they had to turn back to the United States as there was a "mechanical issue" that required emergency landing.
No idea what happened as my wife wasn't given an explanation upon making it back to the states but they deplaned and switched planes entirely.
She was so freaked out she said screw it and had me come pick her up. Delta gave us a refund on the 3 tickets for my wife and 2 children and they ended up flying out 2 days later.
The pilots and crew in these videos are absolutely amazing.. The composure they demonstrate is unbelievable.... I really respect them so much... Its amazing the things pilots overcome....true heroes ....i wouldnt get in a plane if I had to for any reason at all. But for those of your who do. I wish you all the safest of travels
Oh, Rob..🙆🏻♂️🙄
@@speedbird9313 oh rob what???
@@r0bbyinchins Well in these videos you are correct sometimes..but in this video you`re dead wrong.
To open the crossfeed valve and actually just monitor the fuel qty as it gets lower and lower is just mindblowing incompetent🤨
@@speedbird9313 they still landed the damn thing. your not impressed obviously but everyone else sure seems to be
@@r0bbyinchins I'm impressed, definitely heroes so many of the pilots in these videos. I went through a period where I wouldn't fly anymore but I ended up getting over it because of the sheer need for me to travel overseas. I'm always weary of being over long stretches of water for this very reason but these days most of the time I'm going from DFW, LAX, or SFO to ICN the route sticks largely to the coast and is reasonably close to alternate landing points. Every once in a while I get nervous if I'm on a route and we're smack dab in the middle of the ocean. In the event of this video I'd be running up and down the aisle like a maniac I'd be so afraid of ditching in the ocean.
No modern drama can replicate the intense feeling of an air emergency
Once the captain put those sunglasses on you knew everything would be ok.
Narrator's voice is too low and can't hear it over everything else
I put. Subtitles it’s better to understand;)
@@audreemaurice4899 but you can't listen to it in the background and understand what's going on
I could only imagine the fear that would go in anyone s head when confronted with a situation of this type. My God....
We can never fathom what goes on in their mind - there's no need to be.
@@ConradSNIPER
My wife and I are fortunate to know how we will react when faced with eminent death. We faced incoming North Korean ballistic missiles on Jan 13, 2017. Ppl were crying and screaming outside. In town, there was gridlock. Where's everybody going? We're on an island 3000 miles from the next nearest land mass.
After battling blocked outgoing lines and speaking to loved ones on the mainland, my wife and I sat quietly on the bed with our boy between us. He purred loudly as we both pet him.
"Jerk. He's ALREADYin heaven" I told my wife. She smiled, "I love you".
" I Iove you, too". Then we waited quietly to die. For 38 minutes we waited. We could hear speeding cars, ppl screaming and crying, air raids sirens.....for 38 minutes chaos ensued. But the missiles never came. The emergency alert was canceled. And everyone went on about their business. Rarely to be mentioned again. Funny how only certain tragedies are covered by the media, the ones they DO overcover are accusatory against conservatives. Does anyone know what happened that night in Las Vegas? What about the nonexustent riots? The list goes on, but I won't.
I watched this documentary in Bratislava, Slovakia, with a ticket home to Vancouver on AirTransat, lol. Back in 2005.
The passenger Marco looks like Prince Jackson(Michaels Son). The audio sounds like when the volume is too loud and you blow your speakers. “No assistance required yet” anytime something goes the slightest bit wrong someone needs to know.
He overlaid airplane sounds and added echo to interviews because he's uploading copyrighted material and is trying to avoid youtube's detection algorithm. He murdered the audio.
The background noise and music is so distracting...UGH!!
Very well done.
I know nothing about airplanes except what I've learned on RUclips which is more than I wanted to know.
I used to fly when I was working 30 years or so ago. Most of the piloting was done by the pilots, I guess, and not sophisticated computers.
The only thing that amazes me about the Airbus, a highly computerized plane, is that among the dozens of sensors not one of them informs the pilots that there is a fuel leak. The sensors inform them indirectly that they are low on fuel but not why.
These pilots did an incredible job of flying that plane to safety in spite of very difficult circumstances.
Lastly, as usual, there was a series of minor errors which led to a near catastrophe.
This was eventually made into a 2010 movie called Piche: The Landing of a Man.
Yes it is
One of the best episodes. The pilots are true heroes even if they made some mistakes.
My guy just quarterbacked that thing with aviators on. Priceless.
Kudos to the pilots 👏👏👏👏👏👏😭
Hell of pilots, I love them.
Future passenger: So I owe my life to a bracket which is 2mm wider? Yeah, that’s plenty of clearance, thanks.
I love the intro we are in an emergency
Aeroperú 603
@@josiahk4581 correct
@@josiahk4581 my fav
Wife: should we get this apartment with the very steep very narrow staircase with no handrail?
Husband: well that damn airplane didn’t kill us…
I would never risk my life or my passenger's life. If I even had a suspicion of a fuel leak I would stop transferring fuel and declare an emergency. This is why I hate flying, I don't fly if I don't have to. You never know who is up in the cockpit and how arrogant and ignorant they are. People say it's safer than driving or whatever the statistics are I don't want to be that one statistic. This is why I'm going to take a train to Hawaii next time I go.
I would crap my pants for 15 minutes straight.
Actor playing the captain is hottttt
His name is guy richer, french canadian actor from Quebec,canada.
Ghoul
Hard to believe that the airliners don’t come with a fuel flow meter. It would tell exactly how much fuel is used or being used.
Are you sure they don't? I am not a pilot and don't know; but based upon what I just watched and and then read, a fuel flow meter wouldn't have made a lot of difference as it measures an engines fuel use in real time. The fuel reports _showed_ fuel starvation as they should but the pilots were hoping it was a computer error and continued the cross feed as there was no alternative procedure. The engines were using a normal amount of fuel, cross valves were working as expected, and there was simply not enough to keep them running once it all leaked out from the bottom. Perhaps if they had known what had happened when the first engine burned out they could have stopped the cross feed , but they didn't know. At least that's my take, unless I'm missing something?
They do..
Ofcourse thay have a flow meter .
Or a fuel pressure Guage?
Pilot fault he didn't believe his instruments. Several times fuel use was calculated and pilot still kept pumping fuel over to the leaking engine.
Great story! A question that comes to my mind is why did Rolls Royce not include a hydraulic pump assembly with the new replacement engine? The maintenance department was probably not aware they needed one I'm guessing. Not saying they are totally to blame but should share responsibility.
They should not provide a new 3ngine without the full,setmof connectors pipes to the aircraft
Engineers u means
I agree with the others who pointed out that the music is really loud and I can barely hear the person talking.
Continental used to run transatlantic flights from EWR to London using boeing 757's. Range wise west to east was fine. On rare occasions if they ran into unusually strong headwinds on the return to EWR, they would have to divert to Gander to refuel. A friend who flew this route frequently, told he experienced this.
No one is interested in your friends travels. It is irrelevant
That's actually interesting, to me at least. Thanks for sharing.
@@njdxnjdx Actually, in a discussion about near tragedies resulting from a shortage fuel on transatlantic flights it is highly relevant. Especially since Gander is no longer operational.
Many a plane was saved by landing at Gander due to some emergency including dozens when transatlantic flights were diverted from the U.S. in the hours after 9/11.
@@njdxnjdx Who peed on your conflakes this morning?
@@njdxnjdx 🤣🤣🤣
Have no clue about it but admire people who bring this planes up and down .for me a mega vormit
This is one of my favorite air disasters
They made a movie on that disaster but the movies is in French
«Piché entre ciel et terre»
@@audreemaurice4899 yeah would love to watch it but I don't understand French
Passenger safety is determined by corporate profit and greed. Arrest the secretary of transportation.
What do u mean a favorite disaster? Anything like that under the sun?
Airbus is crazy. It makes sense what the pilots did, although they could have stopped pumping fuel earlier. It is always 20/20 in hind sight. They did what was necessary.
I’ve never been afraid to fly, but after this I’m not so sure about flying over a large body of water. 😬😬
It's safer than a boat, buses can't, leaving airplanes are our only real choice. I feel so safe when I'm up there. I last flew about three months ago and slept through the whole trip including takeoff. The flight attendant woke me when we got there.
Take a double dose of sleeping pills. You'll either wake up or it'll be quick
I always have a feeling seeing passengers and pilots been interviewed after a crash.
Without a doubt, LEGENDS! well done pilots.
Havent researched this very much, have you? 🙄🤭
@@speedbird9313 legends regardless.
@@heels-villeshoerepairs8613 Uhm..no🤚🏻
@@speedbird9313 bet you'd be thanking them!
@@heels-villeshoerepairs8613 For running out of fuel? Dont think so..
Totally made my week! Thank you!!
passengers should be thanking god that told the controller to tell the captain to fly 60 miles south of the normal flight path.. that’s what saved the place .. please people around the world believe in him.. god almighty ..
Stay ignorant👍🏻
Sound quality is poor.
Is the audio producer on vacation or something? Did someone accidentally overlay the mixed-down audio track with the original audio from the reenactment with an offset of like .05 seconds?
In recognition of Indigenous Instruments Day they decided to add didgeridoo sound effects.
Terrifying experience for the passengers. Heroic performance of the pilots and the flight crew.
👍
Pilots=flight crew😉
And they were lucky, not heroic..
As long as there are humans there will be mistakes. Pilots did an amazing life changing job. Engineers corrected their design flaw. Let’s end that there.
I mean who was the benefactor to the fines? Did the traumatized passengers receive compensation? Great story. Course has been corrected. Let’s move on.
The passengers were offered free flights on Air Transat for the rest of their lives. Only 2 people took up the offer.
The passengers compensation is a new appreciation of still being alive.
The passengers received a new pair of underwear.
No. Pilots could have, should have, shut off fuel to the leaking engine early on. This mindset of ‘might be bad sensors’ nonsense is pathological.
@@michaelotieno6524 stop making stuff up bro
The chances of survival here were not good. There is plenty to be learned from this one. Wow! Congratulations on a safe landing because that was certainly on a wing and a prayer!
Very genius Pilots saved 300 passengers 👍
Pilots were lucky..
That was some very good flying by the pilot and co pilot .
No, that was actually some very ignorant flying. But hey, good glide👍🏻
what about a pilot that flew for hours with fuel pouring out and kept balancing tanks, shut off the engine that is taking all the fuel and continue on one engine.
As a former Indian Air Force Maintenance Engineer great applause to all crews specifically to Pilots for their cool spine n high level of expertise to handle such a critical emergency which could have been a catastrophic accident. Amazing save! At the same time this is to opine that such negligence in maintenance of aviation system neither expected nor accepted, it is serious offence in the part of maintenance engineers
As an AME you should really question the pilots on this one..🤨
When two or more independent sensors (in this case temperature and pressure) indicate abnormal readings that are related, it couldn't be a false alarm.
Not always i dont agree there willbe a fault
I would think having just checked fuel levels then had low fuel on right that quick would have been a major warning sign too me
@@michaelmelvin3263 Of course it would be a major warning but it would be a major warning that something is wrong not a major warning about a fuel leak. Like the pilot in the commentary said;
1. Low oil temperature is indicative of a bad sensor and be of no concern.
2. High oil pressure is very strange and unusual and is normally about contamination of oil with fuel. They were advised to keep monitoring their oil levels as they suspected an oil leak and not a fuel leak since the fuel gauge was still okay at that point. They never ignored the 2nd alarm.
It can happen look at air France 🇫🇷 fl447 which went down in the middle of the Atlantic ocean
That captain was magnificent! Wow!
I’ve seen this video with clearer audio on another channel called ‘Wonder’ months back. I thought this is a ‘new’ documentary. Is this channel owned by Wonder too?
Great work by actors and background voiceover artist and editors
Yes that was true they lost huge amount of fuel while shifting fuel to right side. Both pilots were on mistake.
This was an airlines procedure, wise guy. It is easy to blame everything on pilots.
They did the best they could based on their training at the time. It's easy to second guess their decisions after the fact. Being under so much pressure they remained calm and ultimately landed the plane with NO power safely. All passengers were safe. I call that a win.
Theoretically the captain was at fault as he/she is responsible to do a check on the plane prior to take-off but nowadays that can never be more than a walk around the external parts of the plane-if the pilot actually took time to check every working component on a plane no modern day flight would ever make it into the air.
Therefore, pilots take to the air based on a reliance that the maintenance crew have done their job. The pilots in this instance reacted brilliantly when the engines cut out-credit where credit is due!
My heart goes out to those who were in that terror, it is disgusting how this had happened under who was suppose to not make it happen, person's at the head of maintenance. These maintenance person's should have been properly fined
mayday, mayday...we've run out of fuel...because our pilots don't know what they're doing! - is this the one with a fuel leak in one engine, and the pilot turns on the cross-feed, allowing all the fuel to exit the plane? - yes, it is. this one must be known to all pilots by now? - probably not.
Yeah in that case the person who deployed fuel imbalance warning should be picked first. Pilot kept remembering that the leakage got checked only smtym back.