It's not like that though, she was contemplating things while in the other world and named herself Bernkastel cause that was the wine she was drinking that she stole from her dad's delivery. With context it's got nothing to do with Umineko's Bernkastel at all. But fans jump on it anyway even though Ryukishi doesn't have the balls to connect the two universes together.
I disagree. Now that Gou, Sotsu and Meguri exist, Higurashi and Umineko are officially connected together, and even directly at that. Ciconia, as well.
Yeah, this meant the producer and the writer was a genius. "first let's hoard a lot of money by making this amazing anime... But let's put in some spice in it by preparing it for our next production that will also fish in a lot of money
I recommend you watch a let’s play of the visual novel version of this arc. The anime left out ALOT. The VN shows the very moment she comes up woth he name Bernkastel
It's a shame that Rika's suffering and pain became a separate being who is even more of a monster than Takano. Imagine a normal, good Rika with Bernkastel's powers on Umineko's story. Story would have ended by the third game.
@Psywriter Wrong. If you have read Umineko, at the end, when Bern and Lambda are speaking (sewing Lambda's body) Bern admits she had "played" the role of the bad guy. Actually there is so poor answers of Bern at all, even in Umineko
Witches do anything to escape boredom, because when they are bored they remember their logic error, Bern basically becomes evil to forget about what happened to her in the Hinizawa kakeras
I saw this scene as the good ending where Rika realizes that it’s best for her to live as a human among humans to enjoy her life growing up. When she was in the “perfect” fragment, she felt distress from the knowledge of two worlds, from the lives of other “Rika’s” she’s overwritten, and how her journey has skewed her morality. When the club members of the “perfect” fragment offer their friendship to her, she struggles between choosing them - happy but not reliant on Rika - and the Matsuribayashi club members - happy because of Rika and her character growth. She also cries for her mother, someone who she saw as doomed from the very beginning. Witches have no place in Hinamizawa (or Higurashi for that matter). Rika has already learned to see her fellow club members and villagers not as pawns, but as friends. And she realizes that although the other fragments are very real, her current fragment is the only one her friends know, so from now on, she will take care of her one life and the people in it.
@@agsmashups It doesn't make the story pointless. For the Witches,beings that live in a Meta World, where they can alter the concepts as we know them, the story was just a game. For the characters of Higurashi it was their lives. They made their decisions and they achieved their endings.
Rika: Only a superhuman existence, capable of seeing the contents of each box, can worry about which hand will bring a better future. Me: *COUGH Featherine COUGH!!!!!!*
wow forgot about this scene. over a decade ago. good times. good times. don't even remember my reaction to this scene, but it must've been so mind-blowing given that it's a huge confirmation of several aspects of the relationship between higurashi and umineko!
Even after Higurashi GOU and SOTSU; Rika and Bernkastel are still bound tightly together while LambaDelta has released her clutches on what's left of Satoko. I see more bitterness setting in with Rika and have a sinking feeling about Featherine coming back with a vengeance.
@@DragonicFang This is an old comment but I’ll just tell you if you don’t get it, you need to read Umineko THEN see the last 7 minutes of Higurashi Sotsu, Episode 15. It will make more sense then. TL:DR if you don’t want to though, Lambda says that the human Satoko can “have Satoko Houjou back” meaning that she’s left the world altogether. More context on what that means is implied in the scene after she says that.
"I must return to being Furude Rika, rather than the witch Bernkastel..." Me: ....Wait hold it!? What did you just say!!! Are you seriously admitting!? *intense breathing* AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
As on the nose as this is. Rika knows nothing about Umineko. She's referencing something she monologed to herself earlier in the arc about her being the wine she drinks. Bernkastel happens to be the brand of wine she drinks. She knows nothing about a literal Witch who's true name is Bernkastel.
@@KIN1311Bernkastel for Rika is how she perceive herself as a witch that keeps jumping into world after world, in Higurashi Rei she started to see herself as that witch she invented. But in the end she choosed to be "Rika Furude".In other words, she accepted death and choose to live normal life. It has nothing to do directly with Umineko(I didn't read umineko yet, but that's what she meant in Higurashi Rei. If that's other reason behind It, i don't know yet.)
Really? I think Satoko's method of execution was actually the correct one. Sacrafice few, get result. On other hand, Rika/Bern while hesistating to sacrafice anyone in her current world for better results in next one, created a 100 year old history of tragedies. Who is the real villian here?
@@SonicSonedit It seems you didn't get what rika wanted obv the thing rika wanted was to get as far in the world WITHOUT sacrificing anyone she wanted to live her life with everyone alive not sacrifice ppl so that if she dies she can figure out a way to survive she wanted everybody to survive and how can she do that if she's sacrificing them understand satako didn't want that she only wanted rika while rika wanted everyone
If someone is confused: There is another anime/manga hidden under Higurashi but with a different name. SPOILERS!!! During the events of Higurashi Berncastel is inside of her body and created a miracle so Bernkastel and Rika can escape the death&revived-cycle. Bernkastel is trapped in her world but tries to ecape. If Rika survives the events, Bernkastel wins the "board game". However, her opponent made everything difficult so escaping was somehow futile. That's why Bernkastel stepped in to give Rika the power to change the future and live a life without getting killed again. If you read the manga, you might have seen Bernkastel. For some reason she has similarities with Rika. Both look alike. Both like spicy food and wine. Both have speers. It's said that Bernkastel was born from Rika's despair and suffering and seperated from her so she could live somewhere else. What's why Bernkastel has a twisted personality. And if it isn't weird enough, Bernkastel's first name "Frederica" has "Rika" in it (in German "Rica" is pronounced like "Rika". It doesn't matter if you replace the "c" with "k" in "Frederica").
no, actually, Bernkastel is just meta Rika who remembers everything-as opposed to Rika in each separate timeline, who had her memories blocked for the sake of game. In time Bernkastel started dissociating from every single of such "Rikas" more and more, as she grew different and different, and eventually called herself a different "person"-just like Shannon and Kanon are different people. So you can say, from a certain philosophical point of veiw, that at the very beginning Rika and Bernkastel were same person and they diverged, or that Bernkastel was born out of Rika, or Rika was born out of Bernkastel, this is the same kinda philosophical point of view that leads to the answer of Umineko.
no they were one until the end of higurashi, at the end of rebirth, Bernkastel realized she's a being of kakera and went on to live in the realm of gods, while "Rika", with her memories cut, went on to live a happy life beyond june 1983 as a normal human in one of the fragments so she left a happy "Rika" in one of the fragments, but knew she can not live like that there, because she was changed too much by 100 years of looping, not just psychologically and emotionally, she became accustomated to the world of gameboards and fragments and chest pieces and alternative timeliness, and essentially became a god herself you can say that Rika was born from Bernkastel, not Bernkastel from Rika. Countless dead Rikas were born out of meta-Rika(Bernkastel), but only one of these countless Rikas survived and went on to live her life beyond June 1983. But that Rika is not the one who was narrating Higurashi to us and looping through the different scenarios.
I disagree with your RUclips handle, how else will they fund your desired Umineko anime remake if they don’t utilize their cash cow ‘Higurashi’ to its fullest potential.
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes Yeah, you’re right. After the disaster that was the Umineko anime, I don’t see them remaking it and potentially upsetting fans once again.
Correct me if I'm wrong: Spoiler Alert: If you haven't read Higurashi & Umineko you shouldn't scroll down: Higurashi is just a gameboard between witches, one of them is Lambdadelta, the other Idk who. Rika was the MC just like Battler was in Umineko. After Rika's suffering in an Endless June, Bernkastel was born from her. That's why she's the witch of miracles, cause only a miracle what made Rika win the fight at the end against Takano (the piece that was picked by Lambdadelta) Then, after Bernkastel was born, she transcended into an Endless Witch (just like Beatrice did) and now she's able to move from a fragment to the other.
@@teslamid9923 Yeah thats right, was a game between Lambda and Hanyuu, but if u read umineko manga on EP6 Lambda tells to Erika: "Bern's Master was a bad one (Hanyuu), she comited a Logic Error and forget the Game, she counted the days and that broke. Her, and when she won the game by a miracle, Bern born like a bad Witch"
Nah the person LD was facing was still Bernkastel, I believe. Thing is, the witches metaverse exists beyond spacetime and dimensions. My theory proposes that Bernkastel is a Rika who won the witches game, eventually became Bernkastel, and eventually played the game of Higurashi against Lambdadelta, using her past self, Rika, as her primary gamepiece, knowing that the impossible situation created by the witch of certainty, would be inevitably broken, as she did so herself.
Josue Rangel Yeah kinda. Higurashi is a game of the witches from Umineko. The witches are known as Bernkastel and Lambdadelta. -Won't tell you more, it mind be spoilers ;)-
_Lady Bernkastel, the universe has many values. There is no one single path. The future can't be determined. Nor can the past. Therefore you are free to choose..._
endless worlds of crystals... the cat has finally achived his dream. bernkatel is inside furude rika, which means she can control her, and lambdadelta is inside satoko too, the higurashi and umineko world are in the same year, i belive battler is inside keiichi Edited: im almost wrong, i ended reading umineko question arcs.
@@frenkiekaki7948 also technically impossible because battler's "vessel" is a human from the future, even after the rokenjima events. Plus Battler isn't a creator unlike Featherine
@@AzoSBear featherine isn't a creator it's a mistranslation. She touched the last boundary but didn't go farther so she's at the highest peak possible where she Can remain "herself".
@@danielpeckham5520 Spoilers Actually, the God that the Culprit of Umineko believes in is the Christian one, because she was raised in the Gospel House.
@@norton7954 nice trolling, have you seen new interviews? satoko's VA said she knew it was a sequel after all because ryukishi07 told her before it even started.
In Umineko sense? Maybe so. In this arc, Rika refer herself as Bernkastel (from wine bottle she drunk) because she separated herself from Furude Rika of Saikoroshi. Furude Rika of that world is completely different person and living completely different life. Now that Rika come back to Matsuribayashi world, she is "returning" as Furude Rika.
Finally. I swear I'll always pretend that all gousotsu shit is just a dream of Satoshi when he's in coma. And dreams are not real,so rei is a perfect ending^^
If I remember correctly it was in this moment when Rika and Bern became two separate beings. That implies Rika lost her world travelling magic and become a mere human. And that's whats this whole scene about.
No, or at least not in the Anime. Earlier in this arc Rika gave herself the name Berkastel after the wine brand she drinks to differentiate herself from the hypothetical Rika that would have existed in the absence of timeline shenanigans. The existence of a literal seperate entity called bernkastel would be news to her.
Basically the first time I saw this scene I didn't know who Bernkastel was because I never watched or read Umineko at the time but after knowing the plot and characters I now understand the impact of this scene
because the visual novel exists and this scene doesn't make sense (if you only watched the anime) it only actualy makes sense once you understand why the entire umineko concept exists and what is the way you should handle it Spoiler: (because umineko has 2 endings based on these choices). Truth, or Magic.
@@AzoSBear thanks for replying. 1 - ok fine i guess it makes sense. i still think the anime is better than nothing. i haven't read any of the VNs or manga and probably wouldn't have even bothered to know anything about umineko if it weren't for the anime. but of course i'm not gonna argue that the anime is a bad adaptation or whatever. 2 - not sure only 1 line between the spoiler and the word 'spoiler' is best but anyhoo i already spoiled myself a few months ago because i just wanted to know already like after a decade since i watched the umineko anime
So Bernkastel chose Rika to be her temporary vessel during the events of Higurashi , and Lambdadelta chose Takano to challenge Bernkastel in this game of murders, paranoia and mystery so both witches could define their own possibilities to succeed in the game, and just like Beato, Lambdadelta gave her opponent countless opportunities to repeat the same course of the game, that means the only way both Lambdadelta and Beato could win was to let Bernkastel and Battler, respectively, to give up and admit defeat.
@@andreworders7305 I feel like they should have abused that ability more often. Like, that should allow her to definitively prove the existence of the supernatural on the spot to anyone they feel like. Also it should let Hanyuu teleport, which would have been useful towards the end.
LOL, other than the one line she spouted too, I knew that she went back to "normal", her first response was just going to be "Nipah!". XD Typical Rika. :p
I need to rewatch Higurashi and Umineko back to back because this confused me a bit. And I watched Umineko only 2 years ago, but haven't seen Higurashi since high school. Maybe I'll do that this summer. Also, the animation is stiffer than I remember. Or maybe it's because I study animation that I notice these things more.
There's some full playthroughs on RUclips if you don't want to buy the game. Just be warned, the game took me over 100 hours to complete, but it was well worth it.
After I read visual novel version of Saikoroshi-hen, I thought Rika (who already have gone to a lot of fragments) only used Bernkastel's name to distinguish herself with Furude Rika of Saikoroshi-hen's world since she states that she can't live in that world without wine. In the very end, she decided to be Furude Rika and stopped 'playing' as Bernkastel. I think she still have some memories of what happened before she won the game. But in the meta world(?), Bernkastel just splitted like Rika said and how Lambdadelta told Erika about how Bern escaped the logic error.
Fredrica bernkastel was her third side that who play lambdedalta's game board..... With one body... Hanyuu is more powerful she can rika back again in the game board .... And escape again the game board But some one said .... To lambdedalta ..... I want to be god .... Behind rika's death before she says that.... Thanks to hanyuu ..... Rika is living in the perfect world..... But bernkastel is one who..... That live in rika's body.... Three sides..... One body.... If one kill rika ..... Hanyuu was back her again in the Board game thing and escape again ...... As hanyuu help rika, rika was living in 1,000 years now...... Hanyuu can back the time ..... Or past ..... That her power can do.... To protect rika....
Bernkastel is Rika Bernkastel and Lambdelta plays Higurashi cause the world of Higurashi is just a Game board or a Kakera Umineko is about finding the truth about the murders is it a Witch or is it a Human
I've read in the comments that people are so mindblown that this give much more deepness to higurashi. Those people only love to have their plots too big. Higurashi already has such a big plot with the syndrom and the mysterious murders. The witch part makes the suffering and the interesting plot of Higurashi seem like a joke. I don't care for supernatural witchcraft. I want a kinda believable story. Making Higurashi a work of witches sound like it is just a made up joke. Our characters' lives are just a joke. And it takes away the mystery and horror. The whole Rika plotline only explains why higurashi is repeating itself. That is all it does. And it seems like people are so focused on that, that it brushes away higurashis other genius plotlines. This way of thinking is so popular that the new anime is most likely mostly about Rika and her relation to the witches... but that is so differen to the thrill and mystery higurashi has in store. It even feels like opposites. Like making a drama into a comedy. The whole syndrom story and insanity, murder cases and trust, friendship, struggle is what Higurashi is for me. Not witches. Witches take away the point that Higurashi is kinda believable except the time loops. I mean it is canon but people make it seem like it is the most genious crossover of all times. Nah. I just wish people would see Higurashi for what it is standing alone. Take the first arc alone. Just the story alone, were we didn't know anything about time loops and witches. Only friendship, murder, mystery and insanity. The first arc alone is such a thrilling story. Perfect for novels etc. And this is what got us into Higurashi. Maybe even into Umineko, because this came after Higurashi. The first arc is why we loved to see more of higurashi and this is the canon higurashi for me. No need to know about witches for that thrilling story. It is as if they just slapped this onto the already existing plotline just to explain the time loops. No need to add sooooo much to a story to make it good and... wait for it... deep. (Also about the game old geezer. The whole scene in Higurashi were they described Takano's and Rika's fade with the game old geezer makes it seem like it is just a cruel world. Only by chance did they intertwine like this. Making it so believable with our world, earth. Sometimes someone picks the old geezer by chance and tries to get rid of it. Interesting thinking. But it is fact that it isn't by chance but only a game for some witches, it destroys the whole scene. Knowing that it has come to this not because of a cruel real world, earth, and not because of their actions, but because some witch wanted it that way. Silly. Sry but please come back to earth down from your high horse. )
I disagree. If you ask me, the inclusion of higher deities only emphasizes the impact of the themes of Higurashi. Rewatch this video. Remember, Furude Rika is a human living in the mortal plane. Bernkastel is a witch living in the higher plane. Rika was born a human but split into being a witch and a human. The entire point of this scene is to show that Rika and Bernkastel cannot live as one. Rika was never meant to tread the higher realm that "Hanyuu" and Bernkastel do. Think of it like... a young person finding themself in a position of power they weren't ready for. To keep that power, that position, when they did not earn, and are not responsible enough to maintain, is a sin. Toying with the lives of others when you don't know what you're doing is evil. Rika, in this scene, decided to keep herself and Bernkastel seperate. She decides to live as a human and not a witch, so as to stop treading on the lives of her loved ones, and other innocent people, like her mother. Since she has no power over the creation of worlds, or of higher fate, it is better for her to accept her limited life as a human. What is Higurashi all about? Trusting in people. Rejecting the concept of divine fate and living life by your own means. The reason why everything happened is because Rika was too adamant that she had no power to oppose fate. The correct answer, she learned between Kai and Rei, was that she as a human had the power to lead herself to a better future. She didn't need to become a witch to figure it out; she just needed to trust in her friends and work together. The fact that, in this universe, witches/deities are very real things, enhances this point because despite the influence of actual gods on her life, she was still able to fight back and win her future. Another point, you will accept Hanyuu as a deity that is able to travel through "timelines" to help Rika, but reject witches as a deity, even though they fully explain the canon way the universe works? What part of Hanyuu is believable without acknowledging other gods? One last point: Higurashi doesn't work without a time loop. If you just stop at Onikakushi, it's not even the same story. You can't have Keiichi go crazy and kill Rena and Mion and have the story still be about trust and friendship. You can't ever explain Hinamizawa Syndrome without making the whole show a cheese fest of "This is why they went yandere lolz enjoy the pointless gore". A time loop is necessary. If a time loop is necessary, someone needs to remember previous timelines to advance the plot. That person is Rika. If a person can remember previous time loops, that needs to be explained. That's Hanyuu. If there's a god that can travel through timelines, there needs to be an explanation for why all the timelines exist. And the canon explanation is that there are Witches of Fate. Is it the word "Witch" that you don't like? Is it that you thought you understood everything and then there was more to it and you got frustrated? Or is it that you misunderstood the ending/moral of Kai?
@@hugolloyd2707 Thanks for the arguments. You are right that the loops and Hanyuu need to be explained. I somehow don't care for that though. I just accept that Hanyuu is there and that there are time loops. I just accept that. And I don't mind mythical creatures being real like demons, but when I see the witches from Umineko, I just turn full Battler and say that witches can't exist like they do in Umineko. It is just the way they define witches, I don't like. And people say that the whole Higurashi world is just made up by Bernkastel's enemy. Makes it sound like no one is real other than Rika and Miyo. Because they are the witches, for whom this cruel play is made for. So yeah, do I not like the word "witches". I do like the word, but not the definition they give it. Put demons, goddnesses and witches into Higurashi. They do. But witches are just so weird in Umineko style that this style doesn't fit Higurashi. These two stories are just so different in style. Having a old japanese village, where the villagers live by traditions and it is so eerie, of course there is something mytical to it. But not in Umineko style. Umineko's time and asthetic is totally different. Now, did I not understand Higurashi. I am surprised I actually understood everything. And did I understand Kai? Yes, but it is still hard to think that Rika has now a normal life, because what happens to the Bernkastel within her?
@@MaryArts Hard to say. Yeah, I agree, the kinda witches from Umineko are a bit odd in Higurashi's context, but to me, the stark contrast kinda reflects real life, and I kinda like it (just my opinion ofc). I just don't really see how the story could work without some kind of explanation for the time stuff. It is a mystery series, after all. If they left a gaping hole like time travel in it a la Stein's Gate's TV + Microwave = Time Machine, it'd be really... off, at least imo. As for Bernkastel, I think it was a sort of send-off for her. Bernkastel doesn't reside within Rika anymore, so now she really is free to grow up as just Rika, and not this timeline-hopping witch. Anyway, point being, I'm iffy on time-travel stories because they almost never make logical sense, or don't make any kind of special in-universe rules/explanation for it, but Higurashi did, and I just find it endearing I guess.
@@MaryArts You cannot deny that Higurashi is just a gameboard or a universe inside of Umineko, that's just how it works especially with a story that involves time loops and multiverses. There's always going to be someone or some people that are capable enough to manipulate events from a higher existence. Also Rika and Miyo aren't witches they are simply piece, what are you smoking on? Both of them are pieces subject to both witches namely Bernkastel and Lambdadelta; You do know why Takano kept winning every single time in Kai right? It is because Lambdadelta who holds the title "witch of certainty" is able to give Takano Miyo the 100% certain victory in results to Rika dying for multiple times. You cannot understand Higurashi completely without going to Umineko as they are connected/intertwined with one another. Without the interference of Bernkastel and Featherine, then there'd be no "happy ending" for Rika. They're connected whether you like it or not.
I mean you can think whatever you want, no one is gonna take away that right from you, but whether you like it or not Higurashi is a witch's gameboard. "This is the canon higurashi for me" too bad I guess. The fact is that it is not. Also some of you complains make no sense "Witches take away the point that Higurashi is kinda believable but not gods or timeloops or mystery syndrome that even the autor makes fun of until today". "The witch part makes Higurashi feel like a comedy because I say so". What even do I say here. I will never understand Higurashi purist, mostly becuase you guys never make sense. Umineko doesn't take away from Higurashi, in fact it only adds.
I couldn't understand Higurashi, as it was too mind boggling for me. I still enjoyed it, but I would've probably liked it even more if I understood some of the boggling parts.
Help: I watched Higurashi(s1 and s2). I'm assuming there is more to it. Umineko, I believe? So should I watch the anime or read VN? Also, by VN you mean the umineko game on steam right????
@Omega Zero thanks a lot for the direction. I'm not really well versed in "Virtual Novels", so I'm assuming your are referring to the Umineko game on steam, right??
REPEAT IT IN RED
I refuse
GIVE ME A GOLDEN TRUTH BBY
@@stranger9061 Only the game master can dos that
@@sebastianswan7975 wait got permission from Lambda- oh hell no Featherine
I can say it in purple if you like.
1:01 Okay, that smile did NOT have the right to be as smoothly animated as it was
yes
their entire budget goes for that animation
*Sees Rika actually admit being Bernkastel*
....... *deep inhale* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
I can hear Rika scream
It's not like that though, she was contemplating things while in the other world and named herself Bernkastel cause that was the wine she was drinking that she stole from her dad's delivery.
With context it's got nothing to do with Umineko's Bernkastel at all. But fans jump on it anyway even though Ryukishi doesn't have the balls to connect the two universes together.
I disagree. Now that Gou, Sotsu and Meguri exist, Higurashi and Umineko are officially connected together, and even directly at that. Ciconia, as well.
@@KenNywithriceIt’s clearly obvious that they’re connected. Blatantly so.
First time i watched Higurashi, I didn't get what Rika meant. But after reading Umineko, now I understand the bomb this scene was meant to.
Yeah, this meant the producer and the writer was a genius. "first let's hoard a lot of money by making this amazing anime... But let's put in some spice in it by preparing it for our next production that will also fish in a lot of money
And what exactly ;-;?
same berniastel first time i see like who is this girl so when i see rika it was like same thing bernkastel was witch inisde rika
I recommend you watch a let’s play of the visual novel version of this arc. The anime left out ALOT. The VN shows the very moment she comes up woth he name Bernkastel
@@GxGNoir where can i find it and do i need to watch the VN of umineko or can i just watch the anime
It's a shame that Rika's suffering and pain became a separate being who is even more of a monster than Takano. Imagine a normal, good Rika with Bernkastel's powers on Umineko's story. Story would have ended by the third game.
Bern isn't evil, she just play the role of a villain.
@Psywriter People who oppose the protagonists I guess lol. They don't necessarily have to be evil.
@Psywriter Wrong. If you have read Umineko, at the end, when Bern and Lambda are speaking (sewing Lambda's body) Bern admits she had "played" the role of the bad guy. Actually there is so poor answers of Bern at all, even in Umineko
Witches do anything to escape boredom, because when they are bored they remember their logic error, Bern basically becomes evil to forget about what happened to her in the Hinizawa kakeras
@@damiester1 that's an antagonist, villains are evil
I saw this scene as the good ending where Rika realizes that it’s best for her to live as a human among humans to enjoy her life growing up. When she was in the “perfect” fragment, she felt distress from the knowledge of two worlds, from the lives of other “Rika’s” she’s overwritten, and how her journey has skewed her morality. When the club members of the “perfect” fragment offer their friendship to her, she struggles between choosing them - happy but not reliant on Rika - and the Matsuribayashi club members - happy because of Rika and her character growth. She also cries for her mother, someone who she saw as doomed from the very beginning.
Witches have no place in Hinamizawa (or Higurashi for that matter). Rika has already learned to see her fellow club members and villagers not as pawns, but as friends. And she realizes that although the other fragments are very real, her current fragment is the only one her friends know, so from now on, she will take care of her one life and the people in it.
Meanwhilehile Satoko beside is like : looks like I have to become the witch after all
virgin miko Rika : worries about the other worlds that she left behind
chad Satoko : *tick*
lmaoo
*snap
Best comment ^^
Rika = Bernkastel
Satoko = Lambdadelta
Hanyuu = Featherine
Takano isn't Lambda tho'
@@latiaos11 Lambda is not Takano Myo, the name is, but not the same person
Satoko(maybe)?=lambdadelta
@@AlexanderCruzTetopentenson Takano is Lambda piece and also her other self, in the letter from Bernkastel in the prologue of Hotarubi its explained.
@@diadetediotedio6918
Yes Lambdadelta is Miyo Takano And Satoko the creator is agree references.
Higurashi is simply a “story” inside of Umineko...its all a game to the Witches...
It was a Game created by the Witch self of hanyu, Featherine Augustus Aurora and the players were bernkastel and lambdadelta
Yep so idk who lambleda who is inside
I hate that story line tbh. It makes me feel like everything that happens in higurashi is just pointless. I like to pretend that part doesn’t exist.
@@agsmashups
It doesn't make the story pointless. For the Witches,beings that live in a Meta World, where they can alter the concepts as we know them, the story was just a game. For the characters of Higurashi it was their lives. They made their decisions and they achieved their endings.
I loved higurashi already. Do i need to watch umineko as well?
Love the work the fan sub group put on the subtitle. Each of the character have their own color on their subtitle. Good time
And suddenly it’s 2008 all over again. Great times for anime.
Rika: Only a superhuman existence, capable of seeing the contents of each box, can worry about which hand will bring a better future.
Me: *COUGH Featherine COUGH!!!!!!*
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Like that Devil Encarnate cares about anything other than her own Amusement!
ひぐらしはほんとに大切なことを教えてくれる
I like how I found this in my recommended a day after episode 17 of Gou, these types of occurrences happening in this episode and its crazy.
Higurashi/Umineko Multiverse is one messed up secret within a secret.
Keiichi's laugh always gets me
i personally think its adorable- 😭
wow forgot about this scene. over a decade ago. good times. good times. don't even remember my reaction to this scene, but it must've been so mind-blowing given that it's a huge confirmation of several aspects of the relationship between higurashi and umineko!
and over a decade later we're finally getting a higurashi/umineko bridge with gou and sotsu, too
@@priscillavonvanaheim4230 light yagami: omoidoori x3
Even after Higurashi GOU and SOTSU; Rika and Bernkastel are still bound tightly together while LambaDelta has released her clutches on what's left of Satoko. I see more bitterness setting in with Rika and have a sinking feeling about Featherine coming back with a vengeance.
And bang! There is Higurashi 2022.
Wdym by ΛΔ realeasing her clutches kn what's left of satoko? I don't really get any of this.
@@DragonicFang This is an old comment but I’ll just tell you if you don’t get it, you need to read Umineko THEN see the last 7 minutes of Higurashi Sotsu, Episode 15. It will make more sense then.
TL:DR if you don’t want to though, Lambda says that the human Satoko can “have Satoko Houjou back” meaning that she’s left the world altogether. More context on what that means is implied in the scene after she says that.
レナの言葉はとても突き刺さるし、それを受けてもう魔女は辞めようって決意した梨花。なのにまた結局繰り返す惨劇に身を投じられてかわいそう。
My favourite scene from higurashi rei💜
"I must return to being Furude Rika, rather than the witch Bernkastel..."
Me: ....Wait hold it!? What did you just say!!! Are you seriously admitting!? *intense breathing* AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
As on the nose as this is. Rika knows nothing about Umineko. She's referencing something she monologed to herself earlier in the arc about her being the wine she drinks. Bernkastel happens to be the brand of wine she drinks.
She knows nothing about a literal Witch who's true name is Bernkastel.
@@Nuclearburrit0 "I must return to being Furude Rika, rather than the w i t c h Bernkastel" are you sure about that?
@@KIN1311Bernkastel for Rika is how she perceive herself as a witch that keeps jumping into world after world, in Higurashi Rei she started to see herself as that witch she invented. But in the end she choosed to be "Rika Furude".In other words, she accepted death and choose to live normal life. It has nothing to do directly with Umineko(I didn't read umineko yet, but that's what she meant in Higurashi Rei. If that's other reason behind It, i don't know yet.)
@@homuru.578その通り
1:32 ここの『はぅ〜』好き
Funny, Satoko comes to the same conclusion, but wow... her method of execution fucked up.
Really? I think Satoko's method of execution was actually the correct one. Sacrafice few, get result. On other hand, Rika/Bern while hesistating to sacrafice anyone in her current world for better results in next one, created a 100 year old history of tragedies. Who is the real villian here?
@@SonicSonedit It seems you didn't get what rika wanted obv the thing rika wanted was to get as far in the world WITHOUT sacrificing anyone she wanted to live her life with everyone alive not sacrifice ppl so that if she dies she can figure out a way to survive she wanted everybody to survive and how can she do that if she's sacrificing them understand satako didn't want that she only wanted rika while rika wanted everyone
If someone is confused: There is another anime/manga hidden under Higurashi but with a different name.
SPOILERS!!!
During the events of Higurashi Berncastel is inside of her body and created a miracle so Bernkastel and Rika can escape the death&revived-cycle. Bernkastel is trapped in her world but tries to ecape. If Rika survives the events, Bernkastel wins the "board game". However, her opponent made everything difficult so escaping was somehow futile. That's why Bernkastel stepped in to give Rika the power to change the future and live a life without getting killed again. If you read the manga, you might have seen Bernkastel. For some reason she has similarities with Rika. Both look alike. Both like spicy food and wine. Both have speers. It's said that Bernkastel was born from Rika's despair and suffering and seperated from her so she could live somewhere else. What's why Bernkastel has a twisted personality.
And if it isn't weird enough, Bernkastel's first name "Frederica" has "Rika" in it (in German "Rica" is pronounced like "Rika". It doesn't matter if you replace the "c" with "k" in "Frederica").
also Frederica and Furude Rika are pretty much the same
no, actually, Bernkastel is just meta Rika who remembers everything-as opposed to Rika in each separate timeline, who had her memories blocked for the sake of game. In time Bernkastel started dissociating from every single of such "Rikas" more and more, as she grew different and different, and eventually called herself a different "person"-just like Shannon and Kanon are different people.
So you can say, from a certain philosophical point of veiw, that at the very beginning Rika and Bernkastel were same person and they diverged, or that Bernkastel was born out of Rika, or Rika was born out of Bernkastel, this is the same kinda philosophical point of view that leads to the answer of Umineko.
no they were one until the end of higurashi, at the end of rebirth, Bernkastel realized she's a being of kakera and went on to live in the realm of gods, while "Rika", with her memories cut, went on to live a happy life beyond june 1983 as a normal human in one of the fragments
so she left a happy "Rika" in one of the fragments, but knew she can not live like that there, because she was changed too much by 100 years of looping, not just psychologically and emotionally, she became accustomated to the world of gameboards and fragments and chest pieces and alternative timeliness, and essentially became a god herself
you can say that Rika was born from Bernkastel, not Bernkastel from Rika. Countless dead Rikas were born out of meta-Rika(Bernkastel), but only one of these countless Rikas survived and went on to live her life beyond June 1983. But that Rika is not the one who was narrating Higurashi to us and looping through the different scenarios.
Good thing you explained it. I'm interested to check out both mangas and games.
Lucinafan1847 ת don't forget erika furudo.
I hope they'll make a good umineko anime
They NEED to remake it
There already is, but they should remake it and continue it.
They already make only half of it (Ep 1 - Ep 4 in Vn), but yeah they need to *remake* it.
*They will unlikely ever reboot Umineko as a full anime adaptation, this is the sad red truth*
@@twistedsword8612 how bout I use blue lol
Me reacting to the Thumbnail: “Tell that to Satoko”.
you mean tell it to Lambdadelta?
Those wild days where pupils didn't exist.
I disagree with your RUclips handle, how else will they fund your desired Umineko anime remake if they don’t utilize their cash cow ‘Higurashi’ to its fullest potential.
@@deredere-sama5995 I wish that is true, but we all know it's advertisement for Ciconia.
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes Yeah, you’re right. After the disaster that was the Umineko anime, I don’t see them remaking it and potentially upsetting fans once again.
@@deredere-sama5995 so Gou and Sotsu would be for a new Umienko?
Correct me if I'm wrong:
Spoiler Alert: If you haven't read Higurashi & Umineko you shouldn't scroll down:
Higurashi is just a gameboard between witches, one of them is Lambdadelta, the other Idk who. Rika was the MC just like Battler was in Umineko. After Rika's suffering in an Endless June, Bernkastel was born from her. That's why she's the witch of miracles, cause only a miracle what made Rika win the fight at the end against Takano (the piece that was picked by Lambdadelta)
Then, after Bernkastel was born, she transcended into an Endless Witch (just like Beatrice did) and now she's able to move from a fragment to the other.
The other witch who was playing against lamda is most likely hanyuu
@@teslamid9923 Yeah thats right, was a game between Lambda and Hanyuu, but if u read umineko manga on EP6 Lambda tells to Erika: "Bern's Master was a bad one (Hanyuu), she comited a Logic Error and forget the Game, she counted the days and that broke. Her, and when she won the game by a miracle, Bern born like a bad Witch"
@@unhuracan3812 No, the other witch was Featherine
@@unhuracan3812 it was aurora(hanyu was her piece)
Nah the person LD was facing was still Bernkastel, I believe. Thing is, the witches metaverse exists beyond spacetime and dimensions. My theory proposes that Bernkastel is a Rika who won the witches game, eventually became Bernkastel, and eventually played the game of Higurashi against Lambdadelta, using her past self, Rika, as her primary gamepiece, knowing that the impossible situation created by the witch of certainty, would be inevitably broken, as she did so herself.
Remember kids don't judge an anime by it's cute animation style
I really love the animation style of Rei
yes
by comparison rika's bang not as corny as the 1/2 but not as polished and ditched like gou/sotsu
i love rikas bang this way
Is umikeno and higurashi the same universe? I'm confused
Josue Rangel Yeah kinda.
Higurashi is a game of the witches from Umineko.
The witches are known as Bernkastel and Lambdadelta.
-Won't tell you more, it mind be spoilers ;)-
Erjon Ramusholli dont care explain everyrhing pls
*SPOILERS*
RIKA IS BERNKASTEL !!!
Holy sh#t spoilers no affect me
Oh and also i knew rika is bernkastel because of her apperance
Nipah! This is why you should never mess around on your bike~
That Bernkastel is just a metaphor.
Frederica Bernkastel = Wine Name
Did you know that Bernkastel is also a small town in Germany?
It's called "Bernkastel Kues"
ferederica = furude rika
well duh she named herself after the drink
羽入の動揺する梨花ちゃんを落ち着かせる為に険しい表情できっぱり言い切るのがかっこいい！あと、レナの名言もいい！
This scene is always the best.
I get chills from this every time.
🤘
Freezing Moom 🤘
これ梨花ちゃんが飴2個の方を選んでたらレナはどう説明するつもりだったんだろうか
おちゃ
手品と同じ感じで両手ともほんとは2個持ってるけど梨花が選んだ時に密かに一個腕バンドに入れてるとかかな？
_Lady Bernkastel, the universe has many values. There is no one single path. The future can't be determined. Nor can the past. Therefore you are free to choose..._
礼の画って画質がキレイで見やすくてキャラも可愛くて良い
ベルンカステルの魔女かぁ( ்▿்)
Don't get run over anymore Rika-chama.
Satoko laughing right now
I KNEW BERNKASTEL LOOKED A LOT LIKE RIKA
I cant believe Bernkastel came inside of her
Hentai? Hmmmnn
endless worlds of crystals... the cat has finally achived his dream.
bernkatel is inside furude rika, which means she can control her, and lambdadelta is inside satoko too, the higurashi and umineko world are in the same year, i belive battler is inside keiichi
Edited: im almost wrong, i ended reading umineko question arcs.
Battler is a different person of Keichi and Umineko happened in 1986, not in 1983.
@@norton7954 oh, i forgot the years.
@@frenkiekaki7948 also technically impossible because battler's "vessel" is a human from the future, even after the rokenjima events. Plus Battler isn't a creator unlike Featherine
@@AzoSBear featherine isn't a creator it's a mistranslation. She touched the last boundary but didn't go farther so she's at the highest peak possible where she Can remain "herself".
交通事故には気をつけようで、皆んなが笑う姿は好きだな！良い顔で笑うね！不思議と私も笑顔になるよ！
simplemente la voz de bernkastel es seductora e impecable
In other words... She's a Fallen Angel.
*Yohane appears*
Huh? Thats Christian mythology and has nothing to do with the world of this anime, which is a weird meta universe.
@@danielpeckham5520 Spoilers
Actually, the God that the Culprit of Umineko believes in is the Christian one, because she was raised in the Gospel House.
5 year old me: Bernkastel? Lady? Person? What?
5 year old you watched Higurashi? That must’ve been rough
@@goten1089 Lol i watched short-ass clips of Higurashi at 6/7
So,Bernkestel lost to Shion when she stabbed her head herself?
All answers will hopefully be found in higurashi sotsu hehe, gonna go by my Rika->Bern Satoko->Lambda theory
SPOILERS FOR HIGURASHI NO NAKU KORO NI GOU
5 years later
Satoko: I must stop being Satoko Houjo and become the witch LambdaDelta.
Hahaha
Gou not is sequel of this serie.
@@norton7954 It actually is.
@@soul6733 not is it.
@@norton7954 nice trolling, have you seen new interviews? satoko's VA said she knew it was a sequel after all because ryukishi07 told her before it even started.
この頃に戻りたい by:沙都子
Anytime now, Rika. Would be really nice considering another witch is acting up now
Is this the moment Bernkastel seperated from Rika?
In Umineko sense? Maybe so. In this arc, Rika refer herself as Bernkastel (from wine bottle she drunk) because she separated herself from Furude Rika of Saikoroshi. Furude Rika of that world is completely different person and living completely different life. Now that Rika come back to Matsuribayashi world, she is "returning" as Furude Rika.
This was a great ending. Unfortunately, in Higurashi Sotsu, they forgot one rule of storymaking and that is don't ruin your own series with a sequel
Lets pretend Sotsu didnt happen and series ended with Saikoroshi of Rei. I refuse to accept GouSotsu.
Finally. I swear I'll always pretend that all gousotsu shit is just a dream of Satoshi when he's in coma. And dreams are not real,so rei is a perfect ending^^
This is slightly confusing. Obviously Bernkastel is aware of Rika’s existence, but does this imply that Rika is aware of Bernkastel’s existence?
If I remember correctly it was in this moment when Rika and Bern became two separate beings. That implies Rika lost her world travelling magic and become a mere human. And that's whats this whole scene about.
No, or at least not in the Anime.
Earlier in this arc Rika gave herself the name Berkastel after the wine brand she drinks to differentiate herself from the hypothetical Rika that would have existed in the absence of timeline shenanigans.
The existence of a literal seperate entity called bernkastel would be news to her.
After finally seeing Umineko, I GET IT NOW thats good stuff
Can you explain a bit plz
Basically the first time I saw this scene I didn't know who Bernkastel was because I never watched or read Umineko at the time but after knowing the plot and characters I now understand the impact of this scene
Who's here after watching 21 episode of Higurashi Gou
satokos laughing she knew what she caused
ok so many people didn't like the umineko anime but come on better than nothing. how do we have this scene without the anime?
because the visual novel exists and this scene doesn't make sense (if you only watched the anime) it only actualy makes sense once you understand why the entire umineko concept exists and what is the way you should handle it
Spoiler:
(because umineko has 2 endings based on these choices). Truth, or Magic.
@@AzoSBear thanks for replying. 1 - ok fine i guess it makes sense. i still think the anime is better than nothing. i haven't read any of the VNs or manga and probably wouldn't have even bothered to know anything about umineko if it weren't for the anime. but of course i'm not gonna argue that the anime is a bad adaptation or whatever. 2 - not sure only 1 line between the spoiler and the word 'spoiler' is best but anyhoo i already spoiled myself a few months ago because i just wanted to know already like after a decade since i watched the umineko anime
If I’m remembering right in the novel Rika called herself Frederika after the wine she drank through her loops so I find the difference interesting
I need orgin to Frederica so I can understand how Rika obtained an adult voice
Rika named her alter-ego "Frederica Burnkastel" after the wine she drunk
@@christianjudeberbano3134 thx :)
I feel like this was a spoiler for the Reboot. Daam you YT algorithm.
nah, this is from rei
if you've read/watched higurashi, it shouldn't be a spoiler
Oh wow, she mentioned Bernkastel? I don't remember that.
Aah, so that heavy and scary sound of Rika's is the witch's?
@Omega Zero Aah I get it
@Omega Zero Bernkastel is the manifestation of Rika's suffering. She is Rika, but Rika isn't her.
So Bernkastel chose Rika to be her temporary vessel during the events of Higurashi , and Lambdadelta chose Takano to challenge Bernkastel in this game of murders, paranoia and mystery so both witches could define their own possibilities to succeed in the game, and just like Beato, Lambdadelta gave her opponent countless opportunities to repeat the same course of the game, that means the only way both Lambdadelta and Beato could win was to let Bernkastel and Battler, respectively, to give up and admit defeat.
No, Bernkastel is born FROM Rika. Like Lambdadelta is born from Satoko.
@@soul6733 Exactly, Bernkastel was born from Rika and the same could be for Satoko and Lambdadelta, kinda what happened with Eva and Eva-Beatrice.
@@soul6733 Exactly, Bernkastel was born from Rika and the same could be for Satoko and Lambdadelta, kinda what happened with Eva and Eva-Beatrice.
@@CuauhAkuma Exactly but it works with umineko because of the reason why umineko (stories) exist in the first place.
@@AzoSBearThen who is Featherine or Eua?
1:33 rena is cute
wait before Beatrice appear in Sotsu
Don't think so.
お願いだからシュレディンガーチャレンジの時だけは両手に持っといてくれ
Gonna watch it on 2021
Edit : Done
ベルンカステル
0:00 Kaeokososhi-hen.
Wait didn't hanyuu took on a physical form in the world? Why did she become a spirit again? Someone help please.
beril şevval bekret in the VN ITS shown that she can switch back and forth between her human form and spirit form
It’s left out of the anime but she can swap back and forth
@@andreworders7305 I feel like they should have abused that ability more often.
Like, that should allow her to definitively prove the existence of the supernatural on the spot to anyone they feel like. Also it should let Hanyuu teleport, which would have been useful towards the end.
omg Rena reminds me of my mom being a tsundere. No wonder I adore her and want to "Omochikaeri ". :P
LOL, other than the one line she spouted too, I knew that she went back to "normal", her first response was just going to be "Nipah!". XD Typical Rika. :p
Bernkastel quits
One imposter remains
Rena kills the blackpill
I need to rewatch Higurashi and Umineko back to back because this confused me a bit. And I watched Umineko only 2 years ago, but haven't seen Higurashi since high school. Maybe I'll do that this summer. Also, the animation is stiffer than I remember. Or maybe it's because I study animation that I notice these things more.
Read the novel of Umineko. The anime was too rushed and skipped many details. Also the anime covered only half of Umineko.
Soul6 I definitely want to
There's some full playthroughs on RUclips if you don't want to buy the game. Just be warned, the game took me over 100 hours to complete, but it was well worth it.
Konati Konoe i definitely want to play it. Especially since summer is coming up
damn, i like the voice Mion here... kind of hot!!
i guess its high type voice, cause its not high pitch, nor deep one...
Saikoroshi-hen.
Where was it confirmed that Rika retains no memory of what happened after the split with Berkanstel? 🤔
I feel like the rika of this timeline does retain her memory
After I read visual novel version of Saikoroshi-hen, I thought Rika (who already have gone to a lot of fragments) only used Bernkastel's name to distinguish herself with Furude Rika of Saikoroshi-hen's world since she states that she can't live in that world without wine. In the very end, she decided to be Furude Rika and stopped 'playing' as Bernkastel. I think she still have some memories of what happened before she won the game. But in the meta world(?), Bernkastel just splitted like Rika said and how Lambdadelta told Erika about how Bern escaped the logic error.
@@someoneelseee_ yes I believe Rika retains her memories but let’s go of her grudges which in turn manifests into a meta being.
Fredrica bernkastel was her third side that who play lambdedalta's game board.....
With one body...
Hanyuu is more powerful she can rika back again in the game board ....
And escape again the game board
But some one said ....
To lambdedalta .....
I want to be god ....
Behind rika's death before she says that....
Thanks to hanyuu .....
Rika is living in the perfect world.....
But bernkastel is one who.....
That live in rika's body....
Three sides.....
One body....
If one kill rika .....
Hanyuu was back her again in the
Board game thing and escape again ......
As hanyuu help rika, rika was living in 1,000 years now......
Hanyuu can back the time .....
Or past .....
That her power can do....
To protect rika....
ラムダデルタは沙都子っぽいけどね
I need context on who this bernkastel is and what umineko's story is about please ? And what do u guys mean by higurashi is just a " game "?
Bernkastel is Rika
Bernkastel and Lambdelta plays Higurashi cause the world of Higurashi is just a Game board or a Kakera
Umineko is about finding the truth about the murders is it a Witch or is it a Human
watch the umineko Visual novel on youtube, it is too hard to explain.
Bernkastel or Frederica Bernkastel is the witch self of Rika. If you have seen Sotsu you know who also has a witch-side.
シュレディンガーチャレンジ
That's one sus title
como puedes matar a una bruja.
ten una cita con ella y matala del aburrimiento.
Cute
I've read in the comments that people are so mindblown that this give much more deepness to higurashi. Those people only love to have their plots too big. Higurashi already has such a big plot with the syndrom and the mysterious murders. The witch part makes the suffering and the interesting plot of Higurashi seem like a joke. I don't care for supernatural witchcraft. I want a kinda believable story. Making Higurashi a work of witches sound like it is just a made up joke. Our characters' lives are just a joke. And it takes away the mystery and horror. The whole Rika plotline only explains why higurashi is repeating itself. That is all it does. And it seems like people are so focused on that, that it brushes away higurashis other genius plotlines. This way of thinking is so popular that the new anime is most likely mostly about Rika and her relation to the witches... but that is so differen to the thrill and mystery higurashi has in store. It even feels like opposites. Like making a drama into a comedy.
The whole syndrom story and insanity, murder cases and trust, friendship, struggle is what Higurashi is for me. Not witches. Witches take away the point that Higurashi is kinda believable except the time loops. I mean it is canon but people make it seem like it is the most genious crossover of all times. Nah. I just wish people would see Higurashi for what it is standing alone.
Take the first arc alone. Just the story alone, were we didn't know anything about time loops and witches. Only friendship, murder, mystery and insanity. The first arc alone is such a thrilling story. Perfect for novels etc. And this is what got us into Higurashi. Maybe even into Umineko, because this came after Higurashi. The first arc is why we loved to see more of higurashi and this is the canon higurashi for me. No need to know about witches for that thrilling story.
It is as if they just slapped this onto the already existing plotline just to explain the time loops. No need to add sooooo much to a story to make it good and... wait for it... deep.
(Also about the game old geezer. The whole scene in Higurashi were they described Takano's and Rika's fade with the game old geezer makes it seem like it is just a cruel world. Only by chance did they intertwine like this. Making it so believable with our world, earth. Sometimes someone picks the old geezer by chance and tries to get rid of it. Interesting thinking. But it is fact that it isn't by chance but only a game for some witches, it destroys the whole scene. Knowing that it has come to this not because of a cruel real world, earth, and not because of their actions, but because some witch wanted it that way. Silly. Sry but please come back to earth down from your high horse. )
I disagree. If you ask me, the inclusion of higher deities only emphasizes the impact of the themes of Higurashi.
Rewatch this video. Remember, Furude Rika is a human living in the mortal plane. Bernkastel is a witch living in the higher plane. Rika was born a human but split into being a witch and a human. The entire point of this scene is to show that Rika and Bernkastel cannot live as one. Rika was never meant to tread the higher realm that "Hanyuu" and Bernkastel do. Think of it like... a young person finding themself in a position of power they weren't ready for. To keep that power, that position, when they did not earn, and are not responsible enough to maintain, is a sin. Toying with the lives of others when you don't know what you're doing is evil. Rika, in this scene, decided to keep herself and Bernkastel seperate. She decides to live as a human and not a witch, so as to stop treading on the lives of her loved ones, and other innocent people, like her mother. Since she has no power over the creation of worlds, or of higher fate, it is better for her to accept her limited life as a human.
What is Higurashi all about? Trusting in people. Rejecting the concept of divine fate and living life by your own means. The reason why everything happened is because Rika was too adamant that she had no power to oppose fate. The correct answer, she learned between Kai and Rei, was that she as a human had the power to lead herself to a better future. She didn't need to become a witch to figure it out; she just needed to trust in her friends and work together.
The fact that, in this universe, witches/deities are very real things, enhances this point because despite the influence of actual gods on her life, she was still able to fight back and win her future.
Another point, you will accept Hanyuu as a deity that is able to travel through "timelines" to help Rika, but reject witches as a deity, even though they fully explain the canon way the universe works? What part of Hanyuu is believable without acknowledging other gods?
One last point:
Higurashi doesn't work without a time loop. If you just stop at Onikakushi, it's not even the same story. You can't have Keiichi go crazy and kill Rena and Mion and have the story still be about trust and friendship. You can't ever explain Hinamizawa Syndrome without making the whole show a cheese fest of "This is why they went yandere lolz enjoy the pointless gore". A time loop is necessary. If a time loop is necessary, someone needs to remember previous timelines to advance the plot. That person is Rika. If a person can remember previous time loops, that needs to be explained. That's Hanyuu. If there's a god that can travel through timelines, there needs to be an explanation for why all the timelines exist.
And the canon explanation is that there are Witches of Fate.
Is it the word "Witch" that you don't like? Is it that you thought you understood everything and then there was more to it and you got frustrated? Or is it that you misunderstood the ending/moral of Kai?
@@hugolloyd2707 Thanks for the arguments. You are right that the loops and Hanyuu need to be explained. I somehow don't care for that though. I just accept that Hanyuu is there and that there are time loops. I just accept that.
And I don't mind mythical creatures being real like demons, but when I see the witches from Umineko, I just turn full Battler and say that witches can't exist like they do in Umineko.
It is just the way they define witches, I don't like. And people say that the whole Higurashi world is just made up by Bernkastel's enemy. Makes it sound like no one is real other than Rika and Miyo. Because they are the witches, for whom this cruel play is made for.
So yeah, do I not like the word "witches". I do like the word, but not the definition they give it. Put demons, goddnesses and witches into Higurashi. They do. But witches are just so weird in Umineko style that this style doesn't fit Higurashi. These two stories are just so different in style. Having a old japanese village, where the villagers live by traditions and it is so eerie, of course there is something mytical to it. But not in Umineko style. Umineko's time and asthetic is totally different.
Now, did I not understand Higurashi. I am surprised I actually understood everything. And did I understand Kai? Yes, but it is still hard to think that Rika has now a normal life, because what happens to the Bernkastel within her?
@@MaryArts Hard to say. Yeah, I agree, the kinda witches from Umineko are a bit odd in Higurashi's context, but to me, the stark contrast kinda reflects real life, and I kinda like it (just my opinion ofc). I just don't really see how the story could work without some kind of explanation for the time stuff. It is a mystery series, after all. If they left a gaping hole like time travel in it a la Stein's Gate's TV + Microwave = Time Machine, it'd be really... off, at least imo.
As for Bernkastel, I think it was a sort of send-off for her. Bernkastel doesn't reside within Rika anymore, so now she really is free to grow up as just Rika, and not this timeline-hopping witch.
Anyway, point being, I'm iffy on time-travel stories because they almost never make logical sense, or don't make any kind of special in-universe rules/explanation for it, but Higurashi did, and I just find it endearing I guess.
@@MaryArts You cannot deny that Higurashi is just a gameboard or a universe inside of Umineko, that's just how it works especially with a story that involves time loops and multiverses. There's always going to be someone or some people that are capable enough to manipulate events from a higher existence. Also Rika and Miyo aren't witches they are simply piece, what are you smoking on? Both of them are pieces subject to both witches namely Bernkastel and Lambdadelta; You do know why Takano kept winning every single time in Kai right? It is because Lambdadelta who holds the title "witch of certainty" is able to give Takano Miyo the 100% certain victory in results to Rika dying for multiple times. You cannot understand Higurashi completely without going to Umineko as they are connected/intertwined with one another. Without the interference of Bernkastel and Featherine, then there'd be no "happy ending" for Rika. They're connected whether you like it or not.
I mean you can think whatever you want, no one is gonna take away that right from you, but whether you like it or not Higurashi is a witch's gameboard. "This is the canon higurashi for me" too bad I guess. The fact is that it is not.
Also some of you complains make no sense "Witches take away the point that Higurashi is kinda believable but not gods or timeloops or mystery syndrome that even the autor makes fun of until today".
"The witch part makes Higurashi feel like a comedy because I say so". What even do I say here.
I will never understand Higurashi purist, mostly becuase you guys never make sense. Umineko doesn't take away from Higurashi, in fact it only adds.
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これってなんのシリーズなんですか？
@つよちゃんスペシャル こんなことは聞いたことないけど...それは継続ですか?はい。私は猫が箱を望んでいるかどうかはわかりません。
I couldn't understand Higurashi, as it was too mind boggling for me. I still enjoyed it, but I would've probably liked it even more if I understood some of the boggling parts.
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Help: I watched Higurashi(s1 and s2). I'm assuming there is more to it. Umineko, I believe? So should I watch the anime or read VN?
Also, by VN you mean the umineko game on steam right????
@Omega Zero thanks a lot for the direction. I'm not really well versed in "Virtual Novels", so I'm assuming your are referring to the Umineko game on steam, right??
How do you mean season 3?
Wich ep is this,i forgot completely about this
where i can find the original anime with this high quality?
This is the Rei, the OVA between Kai and Gou. That's why it has so much quality
@@CuauhAkuma i know, buddy.... i want to watch HD quality, i only found low image quality
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Oolala.