Straight up dissected Toby's handwriting like it's from a crime scene. Forget Deltarune theories, you could hunt down the zodiac killer with those deduction skills. This has got to be the first time I've heard about the Yume Nikki Connection. Dang I got to play that game.
I like how this video started off like “Interesting how Toby blacked out these words however there are still parts of the words we can slightly see Anyway so I analysed Toby’s handwriting-“
i think the summer newsletter's papyrus Q&A has presented some evidence that papyrus might be suffering from memory loss, so that could be why he specifically never mentions gaster.
Or the events were so traumatic papyrus mostly blocked them out. If the theory that sans and paps are from deltarune originally are true (sans lab and the Q&A heavily imply this to be so) then something terrible like the roaring causing them to have to move to an entirely new timeline/dimension and apparently never being able to return home would certainly cause that.
Toby had the idea for deltarune before he released undertale, so he likely made the deltarune characters before undertale characters, if gaster is important for deltarune, then it would make even more sense that his name was already chosen when papyrus was made.
I think another small issue with Gaster being their brother is that it doesn’t feel like it quite fits timeline-wise. Gaster created the Core, which I imagine has to have been around for a while, especially since it’s said that Asgore waited a long time to hire Alphys because of what happened to him. Which brings up the question, if Gaster is another brother, just how old is he? Or how old are the skeletons in general? Papyrus, while not a kid, seems pretty young and his undernet user name may suggest that he’s about 20. I could probably buy Sans being thirty or so, probably a little younger. I know there can be large age gaps between siblings but I still think it’s interesting to think about.
Counterpoint, papyrus is a mini-boss monster (I don’t remember the canonical term) and Sans is a boss monster. Boss monsters don’t age without having kids. So it is still possible knowing how long the brothers could’ve been alive
@@nell990 Boss monsters are a speices of monsters and we see that speices in game those monsters being Toriel, Asgore and Asriel (you may have thought of them as just goats) while Sans and Papyrus’s speices is skeleton monsters (not actual human bones)
@@CowboyCheeseslime Those are only the boss monsters you get in every play through (except for asriel, being the one who proves otherwise because you get different forms of him in different play throughs)
11:35 it's almost certain that those entries were also written by Alphys, given how she's shown typing in lowercase in some texts, and some lowercase messages only make sense in the context that they were all written by Alphys.
I agree it's more likely the entries were all written by Alphys. I just wanted to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY some were written by Sans since it's such a popular theory.
@@TheSoph_ Ah, I see. Your phrasing in the video though was as using it as *evidence* for a further theory, as "sans' distinct writing style in the true lab entries".
Never considered one could fill on the black boxes to draw a preliminar conclusion! Great video, I think you might be onto something, but it also can be Toby is trolling us and what was written there was something like "and a pet rock called Century Gothic" or something like that lmao
I always preferred the idea that Gaster was their other brother rather than a father. I could see him being the oldest one. But it'd be funny if he was the middle one because there's always the joke that the middle child is forgotten.
I know this is a month old, but I want to add something to why Papyrus might not me talking about Gaster. He could be avoiding it. I mean I guess if your brother died semi recently in a tragic experiment gone wrong that’d be pretty hard to talk about, especially to some random human kid. But Papyrus also seems to have a hatred of Hotland and specific puzzles that are found there. He stops talking to you when you get near the core with a conversation that is one of the only uses of his “dejected” expression sprite aside from the King Papyrus ending. And I mean Sans also says he’s been down recently, losing a family member could be one reason for that. Great work on this!!! The handwriting thing was insanely cool :3
One of the Gaster Followers says “I can understand why ASGORE waited so long to hire a new Royal Scientist.” or something along those lines. It’s pretty vague but I don’t think Gaster died semi-recently. If he did, there wouldn’t be enough time for Alphys to begin experiments and build Mettaton. I do think there is merit in Papyrus hating Hotland and the single use of his Dejected expression. It could be that he still doesn’t like the area because of something that happened.
I think it's "and a grand father named Semi Serif" We know for a fact a character named "Grandpa Semi" once existed but didn't make it to the final game for some reason, in fact he's mentioned on the other side of that same paper. Since he's named after a font it's very likely he'd have been Sans and Papyrus' grandpa, which makes it the more interesting that Toby absolutely refuses to talk about him, like why isn't he in the art book along with the other characters that got cut from the game? Also, i don't believe Gaster is related to Sans and Papyrus or that he's even a skeleton in the first place.
If it was a scrapped character why censor it on a paper of a scrapped character idea? It doesn’t make any sense and it’s far more likely that Toby fused the concept of semi with gaster.
@@CrackedcrippleToby is definitely the kind of person who would censor a completely different character to make us think that it is Gaster just to troll us.
I personally think Grandpa Semi is his own character as there is an unused theme for him (for odvious reasons) that sounds like metal crusher then using gaster motif. He's more than likely Sans and Paps Grandpa that I could see you meeting him in snowdin forest and have him be a sort of guide???? for blue attacks (and maybe other colored attacks if Toby planned on other color attacks)
@@waluigiisthebest2802 gaster has a lot of importance to deltarune and deltarune was conceptualized first personally i believe they're two separate characters with gaster being added to kind of tease deltarune
@@kotostrieb While deltarune was conceptualized first, we don’t know how much has changed or added since Toby first came up with the idea. For example, Ralsei’s possible connection with Asriel wouldn’t be important if Asriel wasnt even conceptualized yet. Also, sans and papyrus were conceptualized during Undertale’s planning stage, and considering the font theme, it wouldn’t make much sense for Gaster to be conceptualized first. The joke of sans and papyrus is that they are named after fonts that are hated, while WD Gaster is named after a font that is mysterious and unreadable. I think that it’s possible Gaster is a combination of a character from Deltarune’s early concepts, and Grampa semi. Gaster is a sort of meta commentary on a scrapped character, and Grampa semi is the only known scrapped character with any sort of plot importance, as the rest are just random npcs and battle encounters.
8:05 He could also have been Wingdings, based on the font-first approach to naming taken in the rest of the page; with his full name having been constructed later. Edit: lol Even if the concept of Gaster predated the Skelebros, we have no evidence that his name did.
It's also possible that Toby merged the concept of his mysterious doctor character with the idea of a mysterious third skeleton brother at some later point.
This is too good to be real. I never thought I would believe a type of theory Game Theory would be the type to make but I am unironically pretty convinced now that he is in fact one of the brothers. It almost seemed too unreal and I thought I would go out of this video frustrated with people still making these types of bad theories, but it sounds pretty convincing.
No issues with the theory itself, I do just wanna point out however that the true lab entries (in exception to the redacted Entry 17 of course) are all written by Alphys, regardless of what the typing style may suggest. In particular, entries 11, 20, and 21 are all written in lowercase, but are clearly written by Alphys (11 talks about her not wanting to finish Mettaton's body for fear that if he didn't need her anymore, they wouldn't be friends; 20 talks about Asgore finding a teacup that looks like her; 21 talks about her spending more and more time at the garbage dump). It seems that the more that progress stagnates and the more depressed she becomes, the worse her typing habits get. After the first batch of lowercase entries that talk about how nothing is happening and how desperate she is getting, her grammar returns to a proper form because the fallen monsters woke back up and progress has been made in her research. Again, her grammar falls apart after the monsters melted together into the amalgamates and she becomes too afraid to tell anyone what happened to them. This doesn't really change anything about the theory over all since sans is still shown to have an attitude for science in other ways, but it may remove him from the True Lab, at least during Alphys's time there
cool video! it’s nice to see someone take the idea of skelebro gaster seriously for once. of course, anything could be true about this guy for all we know right now, but it’s always seemed to me like “third brother” is the most intuitive possibility when looking strictly at the available evidence. not exactly canon information, but we do also have the tumblr post in which toby fox roleplayed as sans and said something along the lines of “it’s rude to talk about someone who’s listening. not everyone is as tough as my brother.” sure, this could be a reference to papyrus, but given the wording…
This also makes me think of Sans dialogue in Deltarune. He keeps saying something about how we should meet his brother soon. The obvious interpretation here is that he's talking about meeting Papyrus, who seems to have trouble making friends. But considering how Toby seems to like using vague, misleading dialogue and that Sans never directly mentions Papyrus when talking about his brother, it's fun to think about Sans talking about another, mysterious brother.
@@Patrick11nf yeah, totally. i feel like there’s a trend with gaster in which toby will suggest information about him while obfuscating it/making it harder to confirm by also associating those traits with another character - ex. “strange symbols” on a blueprint that are equally likely to refer to gaster’s wingdings or alphys’s bad handwriting, piano being relevant to both gaster and kris, and of course sans’s mysterious little brother being most likely papyrus but also encouraging “what ifs.” whether or not the specific brother in question is actually revealed to be gaster, i definitely think there’s intentionality in toby fox seeding the idea that it *could* be him. even if it’s too early for him to confirm anything outright, it seems like he at least wants us to be thinking about that as a possibility.
It occurred to me, during your section about why no traces of Gaster are in their house- like, no family photos or anything- is that being too sad can cause monsters to lose hope and fall down. Having a constant reminder that you had a loved one who is gone forever seems like it could actually be dangerous, so perhaps in monster culture, after they cover the favorite object with dust, they just put it all behind them. No one talks about, or has any reminders of the loved one that was gone, because it can be downright dangerous if one gets too sad and loses hope- and the same thing goes with bringing them up in conversations (specifically in avoiding it). Even Alphys stops herself when explaining about the CORE, as though there's an unspoken rule to not mention or talk about the dead in case it makes someone sad.
I actually believe the blacked out text was meant to be something along the lines of " and a *grand father* named *Grandpa Semi* " We know that Grandpa Semi was still a concept when this was written, since if you heavily edit the image and flip it, you can see the words "Grandpa Semi" at the bottom of the page. There are some that believe the creation of W.D. Gaster was inspired by the scrapping of Grandpa Semi, so if that's true, then this can't be referring to Gaster. As for why he would black that out, I feel like it's because Toby knows that we overanalyze everything for fan theories, so he didn't want to include a detail unnecessary for theories if he left it in. He renamed the sound file "Grandpa Semi" to "Grandpa Temi" after all.
I feel like I remember an old gametheory video coming to the same conclusion based on entry 17 and the gaster blasters. I think it was also used as 'proof' for the legendary "sans is ness" video
Yo THANK YOU for making this Ive been baffled by how nobody really talks about this topic and your video was really informative and well put together!! If you make more theories/videos in the future I am certain they’ll gain traction
This is super interesting! With the amount I endlessly researched about this game for years after it came out, I'm surprised I've never seen those early concept sheets or heard anyone talk about them. This video was super well made too, I can't wait to see what you make in the future!
I think that Gaster is not mentioned in the game(except for the followers) just to keep the mystery. But I believe that Gaster is Sans and Papyrus' father because we know that he is older than Sans and Papyrus.
How do you know that? Gaster was around the 201X, and alphys was there when queen left. So alphys lived during gaster era. And i dont think alphys looks too old. Not even really older then sans.
I have my own personal theory on what happened to Gaster and why he isn't mentioned by anyone. See, we can pretty easily guess that Gaster made the blueprints for the DT Extraction Machine. And Determination definitely has some quantum properties, like manipulating time and space, and even giving life to objects that don't have any. Perhaps Determination also binds one to the timeline, or their "mortal coil" as stated by Flowey during his Genocide monologue in New Home. And all monsters have determination, even if it's nowhere near the amount a Human would have. In which case, perhaps Gaster's creation that he fell victim to was the DT Extraction Machine. After all, if Determination is what gives a monster life and puts them in a timeline, what if they were to completely devoid of it?
>You can't read the SYMBOLS they're written in >... Or maybe it's just the HANDwriting. This was like a "garbage noise"-tier foreshadow pre-Deltarune, and I'm surprised it still flies over so many people's heads. Even now, people think it's Alphys. Like, dude, it's Gaster. Come ON. What's even more interesting is that literally 0% of Deltarune fans don't realize that the "broken machine" in Sans' lab is literally the white door that the Knight uses to get around in Dark Worlds. Don't believe me? Look at the way the curtain hangs over it. Maybe repairing these doors is only possible in the Dark World, after all, the Darkners explicitly REPAIR the broken warp doors that are in Chapter 1...
It's great to have new channels talking about Undertale/Deltarune mysteries, I like to hear everyone approach ^^ I love how the fandom analyses everything that's possible 😂 (seriously good job with the handwriting thing !) I've watched your video about the knight and it was great too. This channel seems very, very, interesting.
This is totally just me making stuff up, but I think that Gaster is Sans and Papyrus's great-uncle, because he seems to have made the CORE a while ago, and Sans and Papyrus were planned to have a grandfather named Semi at one point and it would be cool for Gaster to be Semi's brother. This would also explain why they never talk about him and don't have any pictures of him or anything- it's possible that Semi and Gaster had a somewhat strained relationship so Semi never told his grandkids about Gaster. Also, unrelated to my previous point, Sans and Papyrus having any sort of direct familial relation to Gaster means that their full names are likely Sans Gaster and Papyrus Gaster, which both sound surprisingly good.
12:40 it does make sense because they just remember a former scientist but not his Name just like spiderman no way home after strange casting that spell so that everyone forgets Peter but they still know spiderman
guys it's baby bones he's the third brother don't you know this? in undertale sans says "That's for Baby Bones" which OBVIOUSLY is in reference to Baby Bones, the elusive third brother
Imagine the following: Someone you love disappears. No one but you remember them. At first, you tell everyone about your missing loved one, but with no avail. There's no record whatsoever that your beloved one existed in the past. And when you talk to the only person who could tell you that you're correct, they also claim not to know that person. Because for some random reason they know what happened and can't bring themselves to tell you. Especially if said person disappeared when you were little. As time passes by, the memories fade. You just have that feeling you're forgetting something but you don't know what. That's a negative feeling. And Papy is not a negative person. He won't say a word. He will ignore that feeling like the Great skeleton he is. Even if it hurts him.
I feel like it was Gaster as a person who was erased from reality, not what he did. It's like Goner Kid said, as if he never existed. Everyone knows there was a royal scientist before Alphys, the Core still exists, etc. but there is no indication that anyone knows who the previous royal scientist was.This also fits with the fact that naming the player "Gaster" closes the game, as if who he was got erased.
I don’t think Sans would openly talk about a brother who shattered themself across time and space in an experiment that went wrong with Frisk or Kris. Besides, for Undertale, it really isn’t relevant to the overall story. While it might be more relevant to Deltarune, there is still no reason for Sans to reveal his connection to anyone other than Toriel and his little brother. Sans and Papyrus are not main characters, and they are intentionally kept on the sidelines for most of both games (or in Papyrus’s case, excluded completely). And we can’t assume that Sans or Papyrus remember anything about a person who has been removed from space and time. For all they probably know, the only family they have is each other. To explain Sans’s lab coat and the secret workshop, he doesn’t have to remember Gaster to still have his work. For instance, the Core still exists and functions properly. That didn’t change when Gaster got “redacted”. So naturally, it makes sense that everything he made and accomplished would still be lying around as if nothing ever happened. Like blueprints, machines, and weapons. The lab coat in Sans’s closet could either be a remnant of Gaster’s stuff that Sans was too lazy to get rid of or an indicator that Sans worked in some field of science. Okay, last thing. This is just a bit of a fan theory. I like to believe that the blueprints in the secret workshop behind the skelebro’s house are for Gaster Blasters. And during the genocide route, Sans works tirelessly to build/restore the mysterious weapons outlined on the sheets with the hope of making himself enough of a threat to frustrate the human into quitting and resetting. I know I’m skipping over a lot of information and evidence regarding the relationships between these mysterious characters. But I guess what I’m saying is that we may not ever know what the relationship is in the context of the games. Unless their relation adds some sort of deep significance to the story, Toby doesn’t really need to delve into that stuff. He might just let skelebros be mysterious.
Sans and Papyrus are absolutely main characters due to numerous recurring appearances and strong plot relevance. In particular, Papyrus crucially takes initiative in forging an alliance with the human and ingratiates them with the head of the royal guard. Sans is also important since he's specifically designed to be mysterious and make you curious about him, feeding into the reverse psychology the game uses to encourage players to play the genocide route. With that in mind, Sans is arguably *the* final boss of the game. By the way, the blueprints aren't for gaster blasters. Papyrus actually implies that he's capable of using the gaster blaster when he refers to his special attack, "Had I only used my special attack, you surely would have been blasted to..." and he keeps it in his room with the rest of his bone attacks. Your idea does sound pretty cool though.
@@asdffdas254 I agree with u, Sans and Paps are defin. main characters (and important in their own ways); OP's take that they aren't was kind of weird to me. Also, while I don't believe the blueprints in the workshop were for GB's (Sans has fought Flowey in the past, and most likely used his GB's against him. And because it would have been really hard to build like 100 or so GB for the final fight in Geno route. Like Sans is smart and stuff, but that doesn't seem like a lot of time. And also, while they could be created in some way, and/or etc., I do think Sans was summoning them and they are apart of Sans' magic. And probably at least Gaster and maybe Paps too), Paps is only IMPLIED to have GB's. It could be literally anything. And to be frank. I don't really know how one bone would be able to contain GB's. Saying that, he could have GB's, but it is only really only slightly implied.
I mean, Sans does (imo) have a scientific background considering his secret lab, talks in Geno, and just how very smart he is. And etc. He also has GB's, and talks about people he will never see again. Gaster also talks in Wingdings and/or is named after a font, and looks like (imo) a deformed, goopy skeleton. So I do think he might be family to Sans and Paps. Or at least apart of the skeletal race. There are also certain things u can only see in the secret lab or something like that, if you see/use/get some Gaster related thing (I forgot what at the moment). Sans and Alphys are a couple of the only characters besides like Gaster and the Gaster followers, to have fun events too. Which further shows connections and/or possible connections. And etc. Tldr: I do think Gaster is related to the skelebros in some way (though, how he is related to Paps is a bit less clear to me. But still), though it could be as family, co-workers, friends, etc. We don't really know. (P.S.: I am pretty sure Toby was originally gonna have Gaster be a step-father, but didn't. So I do think brother is a bit less likely compared to some other stuff. For that, and some other reason(s) I kind of mention in this comment. "Sans and Papyrus are not main characters, and they are intentionally kept on the sidelines for most of both games (or in Papyrus’s case, excluded completely)." Yes, they are. They both have some of the most screen-time in UT. Paps gets all these phone calls too in the game (which sometimes include and/or talk about other characters), and Sans has the neutral calls and stuff too. They both have importance roles in the game(s), and are main characters, so they aren't is pretty, strange imo. They certainly aren't sidelined either. Though Sans does like to watch/observe/guide/manipulate/etc. you, but still, not "sidelined". "And we can’t assume that Sans or Papyrus remember anything about a person who has been removed from space and time. For all they probably know, the only family they have is each other." Sans does have a picture that says "don't forget" picture, other pictures of people (of people that Frisk doesn't recognize though), and a picture of Sans (looking happy, I think), with Frisk and some of the other (more) main monsters, that can preserve through Resets/time stuff. So I do think it is decently possible, that Sans is trying to remember Gaster and/or others/other stuff; trying very much to cling to that/them, even while it causes him a lot of despair and grief (at times). Like in his Lost SOUL dialogue. And so on.
this video is actually put together perfectly, and the fact that its done by a small youtober with less than 100 subs is crazy. Instant subscribe from me
As a side effect of being shattered across time & space he could have been mostly erased from memory aside from his possible blood family of sans & papyrus
Great video and excellent analysis! I think it doesn't have to be a family member title though. It seems like it could just be facts about Papyrus. I feel like all we really know is that the second thing he has, has a name. Also because of the slant, I feel it could read as either "and a blank blank named blank" OR "and a blank named blank blank". Good friend, stuffed doll, action figure, arch enemy, alter ego, crush, mentor, hero, teacher, pet, etc etc...
theres a picture of the page after and you can see the ink bleeding through the other side of it, i forgot what it said exactly but there is a conformation of what it says.
If you want my thought on the whole aspect. I always believed gaster was there Father It's not cause a fan fiction or anything, but. I just always like to the idea. And he seems older than both of them, but who knows really for sure? That's The Thing, though we don't know. For all we know, sanzan, papyrus and Guster could have come from Delta room originally. For all we know, up is right and left is down. Maybe they all were originally One universe at 1. Point Maybe Delta Roon And under tail We're 1 at 1. Point And maybe the reason why the universe split was because of gaster. But who knows only time will tell Only the creator himself really knows that. But until then, all we have is what we have. In Italian, at least. Gaster has never been truly forgotten. For years in this fan base's mind. And in that way, he truly exists. But then again, I should go. It's rude to talk about someone who is listening.
these videos are very well put together!! you get a new subscriber. also there are a few things that i guess could explain the whole “gaster brother” thing?? but it kind of gets thrown out the window by the falling into the core thing. gasters probably also from the deltarune universe along with sans and papyrus, and he probably has something to do with them ending up in undertale. anyways very good theory video!! great analysis.
hey, so, i've realized something about Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans for quite a while now. thought i'd drop it here cuz y'know. you know that little blinking jingle that people often assume is Gaster's Theme that plays on the *left side?* i believe that it is meant to reference sans' left eye. oh, and another thing. sans' left eye blinks cyan and yellow, two colors which represent patience and justice. in deltarune, it's sleepy and sparable. pacify and spare. you can even see two of those colors at once on an enemy name. (again, kinda like sans' eye) these two colors prominent throughout deltarune gameplay. deltarune relating heavily to gaster. idk what do you think lol
What if out of screen sana dies like fatal hit from deltaruns (unused animation of fatal hits that kill. By bug could be used by snowgrave on cheese on early versions)
Im at the end of the video and I just had a wild idea: So Papyrus and Sans are likely from Deltarune, right? What if all three of them, Sans, Papyrus and Gaster, all from Deltarune, tried to escape that world because of the roaring, so they flee to an alternate universe in which all of them died so they could replace their alternate selfs? Except Gaster didnt make it for some reason, so now hes the only one of them that hasnt gotten replaced in the Undertale universe. Honestly I kinda think this makes sense, because the biggest flaw for me in the Sans is from Deltarune theory has always been that its heavily implied all Undertale characters have a counterpart in Deltarune and vice versa. This would explain how Sans could have gone to Undertake without there suddenly being two Sanses.
Very good video! You’ve earned yourself a sub! Please keep them coming! I’m really running low on deltarune theory videos! I have an addiction that must be fed!
3:12 It could also be to obscure the word 'another', as in another brother. Edit: 6:35 Oops you were getting to that. Unless he wrote 'another relative'. Edit: 13:44 Or Papyrus was too young to remember him (which is admittedly also fairly far-fetched).
Papyrus does mention a lot that he dislikes hotland, though it could be as a joke. Though fanfictiony, would be interesting if it stems from a bad experience living there in the past, or I'm just dumb and it really is a joke and he does like hotland lol.
Now that you started analysing Toby's handwriting, my god, it's so similar to mine. I cannot do consistent writing for the love of me AND I mix cursive and lowercase letters like that. I don't have a point to make here, it's just a funny observation.
LIES. Comic Sans is a fantastic font. It is easily readable in general, it is accessible to people with reading issues, and it is easily accessible on devices. Papyrus is great for titles, especially if you're using it for something related to Asia Minor and North Africa. Accepting no slander of these iconic fonts /light-hearted but genuine
You can never rule out that toby could be deliberately misleading us, even in your mockup, there is no reason for the last box to extend so low down. Also when tf was 11:35 confirmed?
Gaster is the middle child which is why no one remembers him
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Straight up dissected Toby's handwriting like it's from a crime scene.
Forget Deltarune theories, you could hunt down the zodiac killer with those deduction skills.
This has got to be the first time I've heard about the Yume Nikki Connection.
Dang I got to play that game.
Do it already
You should, it's rather short
I like how this video started off like “Interesting how Toby blacked out these words however there are still parts of the words we can slightly see
Anyway so I analysed Toby’s handwriting-“
i think the summer newsletter's papyrus Q&A has presented some evidence that papyrus might be suffering from memory loss, so that could be why he specifically never mentions gaster.
Or the events were so traumatic papyrus mostly blocked them out. If the theory that sans and paps are from deltarune originally are true (sans lab and the Q&A heavily imply this to be so) then something terrible like the roaring causing them to have to move to an entirely new timeline/dimension and apparently never being able to return home would certainly cause that.
Toby had the idea for deltarune before he released undertale, so he likely made the deltarune characters before undertale characters, if gaster is important for deltarune, then it would make even more sense that his name was already chosen when papyrus was made.
I think another small issue with Gaster being their brother is that it doesn’t feel like it quite fits timeline-wise. Gaster created the Core, which I imagine has to have been around for a while, especially since it’s said that Asgore waited a long time to hire Alphys because of what happened to him. Which brings up the question, if Gaster is another brother, just how old is he? Or how old are the skeletons in general? Papyrus, while not a kid, seems pretty young and his undernet user name may suggest that he’s about 20. I could probably buy Sans being thirty or so, probably a little younger. I know there can be large age gaps between siblings but I still think it’s interesting to think about.
Counterpoint, papyrus is a mini-boss monster (I don’t remember the canonical term) and Sans is a boss monster.
Boss monsters don’t age without having kids. So it is still possible knowing how long the brothers could’ve been alive
@@nell990Only Asgore, Toriel, and Asriel are boss monsters
@@nell990 Boss monsters are a speices of monsters and we see that speices in game those monsters being Toriel, Asgore and Asriel (you may have thought of them as just goats) while Sans and Papyrus’s speices is skeleton monsters (not actual human bones)
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Those are only the boss monsters you get in every play through (except for asriel, being the one who proves otherwise because you get different forms of him in different play throughs)
@@nell990 are you saying papyrus and sans are potentially goat people???????
i prefer gaster being the father of the skele bros not a third brother. i mean the blocked words could be "a deceased father name gaster"
11:35 it's almost certain that those entries were also written by Alphys, given how she's shown typing in lowercase in some texts, and some lowercase messages only make sense in the context that they were all written by Alphys.
I agree it's more likely the entries were all written by Alphys. I just wanted to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY some were written by Sans since it's such a popular theory.
@@TheSoph_ Ah, I see. Your phrasing in the video though was as using it as *evidence* for a further theory, as "sans' distinct writing style in the true lab entries".
@@TheSoph_you phrased it like a fact though which you should never do
I always imagined the redacted text saying “a secret father called WD Gaster”!
Never considered one could fill on the black boxes to draw a preliminar conclusion! Great video, I think you might be onto something, but it also can be Toby is trolling us and what was written there was something like "and a pet rock called Century Gothic" or something like that lmao
He would definitely do something like that 💀
Even if it is Gaster, Papyrus still totally has a pet rock called Century Gothic
@@captainkawaii666This is now canon cause I said so
I always preferred the idea that Gaster was their other brother rather than a father.
I could see him being the oldest one. But it'd be funny if he was the middle one because there's always the joke that the middle child is forgotten.
I know this is a month old, but I want to add something to why Papyrus might not me talking about Gaster. He could be avoiding it. I mean I guess if your brother died semi recently in a tragic experiment gone wrong that’d be pretty hard to talk about, especially to some random human kid. But Papyrus also seems to have a hatred of Hotland and specific puzzles that are found there. He stops talking to you when you get near the core with a conversation that is one of the only uses of his “dejected” expression sprite aside from the King Papyrus ending. And I mean Sans also says he’s been down recently, losing a family member could be one reason for that.
Great work on this!!! The handwriting thing was insanely cool :3
One of the Gaster Followers says “I can understand why ASGORE waited so long to hire a new Royal Scientist.” or something along those lines. It’s pretty vague but I don’t think Gaster died semi-recently. If he did, there wouldn’t be enough time for Alphys to begin experiments and build Mettaton.
I do think there is merit in Papyrus hating Hotland and the single use of his Dejected expression. It could be that he still doesn’t like the area because of something that happened.
I think it's "and a grand father named Semi Serif"
We know for a fact a character named "Grandpa Semi" once existed but didn't make it to the final game for some reason, in fact he's mentioned on the other side of that same paper. Since he's named after a font it's very likely he'd have been Sans and Papyrus' grandpa, which makes it the more interesting that Toby absolutely refuses to talk about him, like why isn't he in the art book along with the other characters that got cut from the game?
Also, i don't believe Gaster is related to Sans and Papyrus or that he's even a skeleton in the first place.
If it was a scrapped character why censor it on a paper of a scrapped character idea? It doesn’t make any sense and it’s far more likely that Toby fused the concept of semi with gaster.
@@CrackedcrippleToby is definitely the kind of person who would censor a completely different character to make us think that it is Gaster just to troll us.
Grandpa Semi (as in, Semi Serif. A font style..) is probably Gaster
I personally think Grandpa Semi is his own character as there is an unused theme for him (for odvious reasons) that sounds like metal crusher then using gaster motif. He's more than likely Sans and Paps Grandpa that I could see you meeting him in snowdin forest and have him be a sort of guide???? for blue attacks (and maybe other colored attacks if Toby planned on other color attacks)
I think Grandpa semi was likely scrapped early on, and then reworked into Gaster.
@@simoneperkins4419not unused, it's used in the temmie fight
@@waluigiisthebest2802 gaster has a lot of importance to deltarune and deltarune was conceptualized first
personally i believe they're two separate characters with gaster being added to kind of tease deltarune
@@kotostrieb While deltarune was conceptualized first, we don’t know how much has changed or added since Toby first came up with the idea. For example, Ralsei’s possible connection with Asriel wouldn’t be important if Asriel wasnt even conceptualized yet. Also, sans and papyrus were conceptualized during Undertale’s planning stage, and considering the font theme, it wouldn’t make much sense for Gaster to be conceptualized first. The joke of sans and papyrus is that they are named after fonts that are hated, while WD Gaster is named after a font that is mysterious and unreadable.
I think that it’s possible Gaster is a combination of a character from Deltarune’s early concepts, and Grampa semi. Gaster is a sort of meta commentary on a scrapped character, and Grampa semi is the only known scrapped character with any sort of plot importance, as the rest are just random npcs and battle encounters.
we all know the 3rd brother is Prunsel
8:05 He could also have been Wingdings, based on the font-first approach to naming taken in the rest of the page; with his full name having been constructed later.
Edit: lol
Even if the concept of Gaster predated the Skelebros, we have no evidence that his name did.
It's also possible that Toby merged the concept of his mysterious doctor character with the idea of a mysterious third skeleton brother at some later point.
@@trondordoesstuffyeah this seems likely
This is too good to be real. I never thought I would believe a type of theory Game Theory would be the type to make but I am unironically pretty convinced now that he is in fact one of the brothers. It almost seemed too unreal and I thought I would go out of this video frustrated with people still making these types of bad theories, but it sounds pretty convincing.
Definitely "has a pet rock named _____" xD Toby doesn't want us to know the rock belonged to Papyrus
(neither p or r fits the writing lol)
gaster was added VERY late into devolepment, its probabily grandpa semi
I was thinking the same
@@mylam658who is him
@@Iamkodiaqlol scrapped undertale character
No issues with the theory itself, I do just wanna point out however that the true lab entries (in exception to the redacted Entry 17 of course) are all written by Alphys, regardless of what the typing style may suggest. In particular, entries 11, 20, and 21 are all written in lowercase, but are clearly written by Alphys (11 talks about her not wanting to finish Mettaton's body for fear that if he didn't need her anymore, they wouldn't be friends; 20 talks about Asgore finding a teacup that looks like her; 21 talks about her spending more and more time at the garbage dump). It seems that the more that progress stagnates and the more depressed she becomes, the worse her typing habits get. After the first batch of lowercase entries that talk about how nothing is happening and how desperate she is getting, her grammar returns to a proper form because the fallen monsters woke back up and progress has been made in her research. Again, her grammar falls apart after the monsters melted together into the amalgamates and she becomes too afraid to tell anyone what happened to them.
This doesn't really change anything about the theory over all since sans is still shown to have an attitude for science in other ways, but it may remove him from the True Lab, at least during Alphys's time there
cool video! it’s nice to see someone take the idea of skelebro gaster seriously for once. of course, anything could be true about this guy for all we know right now, but it’s always seemed to me like “third brother” is the most intuitive possibility when looking strictly at the available evidence.
not exactly canon information, but we do also have the tumblr post in which toby fox roleplayed as sans and said something along the lines of “it’s rude to talk about someone who’s listening. not everyone is as tough as my brother.” sure, this could be a reference to papyrus, but given the wording…
This also makes me think of Sans dialogue in Deltarune. He keeps saying something about how we should meet his brother soon. The obvious interpretation here is that he's talking about meeting Papyrus, who seems to have trouble making friends. But considering how Toby seems to like using vague, misleading dialogue and that Sans never directly mentions Papyrus when talking about his brother, it's fun to think about Sans talking about another, mysterious brother.
@@Patrick11nf yeah, totally. i feel like there’s a trend with gaster in which toby will suggest information about him while obfuscating it/making it harder to confirm by also associating those traits with another character - ex. “strange symbols” on a blueprint that are equally likely to refer to gaster’s wingdings or alphys’s bad handwriting, piano being relevant to both gaster and kris, and of course sans’s mysterious little brother being most likely papyrus but also encouraging “what ifs.” whether or not the specific brother in question is actually revealed to be gaster, i definitely think there’s intentionality in toby fox seeding the idea that it *could* be him. even if it’s too early for him to confirm anything outright, it seems like he at least wants us to be thinking about that as a possibility.
It occurred to me, during your section about why no traces of Gaster are in their house- like, no family photos or anything- is that being too sad can cause monsters to lose hope and fall down.
Having a constant reminder that you had a loved one who is gone forever seems like it could actually be dangerous, so perhaps in monster culture, after they cover the favorite object with dust, they just put it all behind them. No one talks about, or has any reminders of the loved one that was gone, because it can be downright dangerous if one gets too sad and loses hope- and the same thing goes with bringing them up in conversations (specifically in avoiding it).
Even Alphys stops herself when explaining about the CORE, as though there's an unspoken rule to not mention or talk about the dead in case it makes someone sad.
I actually believe the blacked out text was meant to be something along the lines of " and a *grand father* named *Grandpa Semi* "
We know that Grandpa Semi was still a concept when this was written, since if you heavily edit the image and flip it, you can see the words "Grandpa Semi" at the bottom of the page. There are some that believe the creation of W.D. Gaster was inspired by the scrapping of Grandpa Semi, so if that's true, then this can't be referring to Gaster.
As for why he would black that out, I feel like it's because Toby knows that we overanalyze everything for fan theories, so he didn't want to include a detail unnecessary for theories if he left it in. He renamed the sound file "Grandpa Semi" to "Grandpa Temi" after all.
I feel like I remember an old gametheory video coming to the same conclusion based on entry 17 and the gaster blasters. I think it was also used as 'proof' for the legendary "sans is ness" video
There was supposed to be 3rd skeleton named Grandpa Semi
Woah really?! It's almost like that's not related at all
Grandpa semi is where the intro to metal crusher comes from
Yo THANK YOU for making this Ive been baffled by how nobody really talks about this topic and your video was really informative and well put together!! If you make more theories/videos in the future I am certain they’ll gain traction
oh and also it’s totally gaster I would be so floored if it was revealed to be someone else later on
This is super interesting! With the amount I endlessly researched about this game for years after it came out, I'm surprised I've never seen those early concept sheets or heard anyone talk about them. This video was super well made too, I can't wait to see what you make in the future!
I think that Gaster is not mentioned in the game(except for the followers) just to keep the mystery.
But I believe that Gaster is Sans and Papyrus' father because we know that he is older than Sans and Papyrus.
How do you know that? Gaster was around the 201X, and alphys was there when queen left. So alphys lived during gaster era. And i dont think alphys looks too old. Not even really older then sans.
@user-09853 it was argument-->conclusion structure. I literally had the argumentation for that conclusion right above.
I have my own personal theory on what happened to Gaster and why he isn't mentioned by anyone.
See, we can pretty easily guess that Gaster made the blueprints for the DT Extraction Machine. And Determination definitely has some quantum properties, like manipulating time and space, and even giving life to objects that don't have any.
Perhaps Determination also binds one to the timeline, or their "mortal coil" as stated by Flowey during his Genocide monologue in New Home. And all monsters have determination, even if it's nowhere near the amount a Human would have.
In which case, perhaps Gaster's creation that he fell victim to was the DT Extraction Machine. After all, if Determination is what gives a monster life and puts them in a timeline, what if they were to completely devoid of it?
>You can't read the SYMBOLS they're written in
>... Or maybe it's just the HANDwriting.
This was like a "garbage noise"-tier foreshadow pre-Deltarune, and I'm surprised it still flies over so many people's heads. Even now, people think it's Alphys. Like, dude, it's Gaster. Come ON. What's even more interesting is that literally 0% of Deltarune fans don't realize that the "broken machine" in Sans' lab is literally the white door that the Knight uses to get around in Dark Worlds. Don't believe me? Look at the way the curtain hangs over it. Maybe repairing these doors is only possible in the Dark World, after all, the Darkners explicitly REPAIR the broken warp doors that are in Chapter 1...
it's a time machine or worldline traveling device
Very well made video. Not many people on this website making as unique and fresh observations as you are here.
Awesome deep dive into old toby fox brainstorming, very good and well made video and theory. Would love to see more.
we all know that it's actually babybones
a brother from another mother and a sister from another mister
It's great to have new channels talking about Undertale/Deltarune mysteries, I like to hear everyone approach ^^
I love how the fandom analyses everything that's possible 😂 (seriously good job with the handwriting thing !)
I've watched your video about the knight and it was great too. This channel seems
very,
very,
interesting.
This is totally just me making stuff up, but I think that Gaster is Sans and Papyrus's great-uncle, because he seems to have made the CORE a while ago, and Sans and Papyrus were planned to have a grandfather named Semi at one point and it would be cool for Gaster to be Semi's brother. This would also explain why they never talk about him and don't have any pictures of him or anything- it's possible that Semi and Gaster had a somewhat strained relationship so Semi never told his grandkids about Gaster.
Also, unrelated to my previous point, Sans and Papyrus having any sort of direct familial relation to Gaster means that their full names are likely Sans Gaster and Papyrus Gaster, which both sound surprisingly good.
12:40 it does make sense because they just remember a former scientist but not his Name just like spiderman no way home after strange casting that spell so that everyone forgets Peter but they still know spiderman
guys it's baby bones he's the third brother don't you know this?
in undertale sans says "That's for Baby Bones" which OBVIOUSLY is in reference to Baby Bones, the elusive third brother
Imagine the following:
Someone you love disappears. No one but you remember them.
At first, you tell everyone about your missing loved one, but with no avail.
There's no record whatsoever that your beloved one existed in the past. And when you talk to the only person who could tell you that you're correct, they also claim not to know that person. Because for some random reason they know what happened and can't bring themselves to tell you. Especially if said person disappeared when you were little.
As time passes by, the memories fade. You just have that feeling you're forgetting something but you don't know what. That's a negative feeling. And Papy is not a negative person. He won't say a word. He will ignore that feeling like the Great skeleton he is. Even if it hurts him.
I thought this comment was gonna be about Des in the first half there
@@frisk7382 Applies to her too tbh
I feel like it was Gaster as a person who was erased from reality, not what he did. It's like Goner Kid said, as if he never existed. Everyone knows there was a royal scientist before Alphys, the Core still exists, etc. but there is no indication that anyone knows who the previous royal scientist was.This also fits with the fact that naming the player "Gaster" closes the game, as if who he was got erased.
I don’t think Sans would openly talk about a brother who shattered themself across time and space in an experiment that went wrong with Frisk or Kris. Besides, for Undertale, it really isn’t relevant to the overall story. While it might be more relevant to Deltarune, there is still no reason for Sans to reveal his connection to anyone other than Toriel and his little brother. Sans and Papyrus are not main characters, and they are intentionally kept on the sidelines for most of both games (or in Papyrus’s case, excluded completely). And we can’t assume that Sans or Papyrus remember anything about a person who has been removed from space and time. For all they probably know, the only family they have is each other.
To explain Sans’s lab coat and the secret workshop, he doesn’t have to remember Gaster to still have his work. For instance, the Core still exists and functions properly. That didn’t change when Gaster got “redacted”. So naturally, it makes sense that everything he made and accomplished would still be lying around as if nothing ever happened. Like blueprints, machines, and weapons. The lab coat in Sans’s closet could either be a remnant of Gaster’s stuff that Sans was too lazy to get rid of or an indicator that Sans worked in some field of science.
Okay, last thing. This is just a bit of a fan theory. I like to believe that the blueprints in the secret workshop behind the skelebro’s house are for Gaster Blasters. And during the genocide route, Sans works tirelessly to build/restore the mysterious weapons outlined on the sheets with the hope of making himself enough of a threat to frustrate the human into quitting and resetting.
I know I’m skipping over a lot of information and evidence regarding the relationships between these mysterious characters. But I guess what I’m saying is that we may not ever know what the relationship is in the context of the games. Unless their relation adds some sort of deep significance to the story, Toby doesn’t really need to delve into that stuff. He might just let skelebros be mysterious.
Sans and Papyrus are absolutely main characters due to numerous recurring appearances and strong plot relevance. In particular, Papyrus crucially takes initiative in forging an alliance with the human and ingratiates them with the head of the royal guard. Sans is also important since he's specifically designed to be mysterious and make you curious about him, feeding into the reverse psychology the game uses to encourage players to play the genocide route. With that in mind, Sans is arguably *the* final boss of the game.
By the way, the blueprints aren't for gaster blasters. Papyrus actually implies that he's capable of using the gaster blaster when he refers to his special attack, "Had I only used my special attack, you surely would have been blasted to..." and he keeps it in his room with the rest of his bone attacks. Your idea does sound pretty cool though.
@@asdffdas254 I agree with u, Sans and Paps are defin. main characters (and important in their own ways); OP's take that they aren't was kind of weird to me.
Also, while I don't believe the blueprints in the workshop were for GB's (Sans has fought Flowey in the past, and most likely used his GB's against him. And because it would have been really hard to build like 100 or so GB for the final fight in Geno route. Like Sans is smart and stuff, but that doesn't seem like a lot of time. And also, while they could be created in some way, and/or etc., I do think Sans was summoning them and they are apart of Sans' magic. And probably at least Gaster and maybe Paps too), Paps is only IMPLIED to have GB's. It could be literally anything. And to be frank. I don't really know how one bone would be able to contain GB's. Saying that, he could have GB's, but it is only really only slightly implied.
I mean, Sans does (imo) have a scientific background considering his secret lab, talks in Geno, and just how very smart he is. And etc.
He also has GB's, and talks about people he will never see again.
Gaster also talks in Wingdings and/or is named after a font, and looks like (imo) a deformed, goopy skeleton. So I do think he might be family to Sans and Paps. Or at least apart of the skeletal race.
There are also certain things u can only see in the secret lab or something like that, if you see/use/get some Gaster related thing (I forgot what at the moment).
Sans and Alphys are a couple of the only characters besides like Gaster and the Gaster followers, to have fun events too. Which further shows connections and/or possible connections.
And etc.
Tldr: I do think Gaster is related to the skelebros in some way (though, how he is related to Paps is a bit less clear to me. But still), though it could be as family, co-workers, friends, etc. We don't really know.
(P.S.: I am pretty sure Toby was originally gonna have Gaster be a step-father, but didn't. So I do think brother is a bit less likely compared to some other stuff. For that, and some other reason(s) I kind of mention in this comment.
"Sans and Papyrus are not main characters, and they are intentionally kept on the sidelines for most of both games (or in Papyrus’s case, excluded completely)."
Yes, they are. They both have some of the most screen-time in UT. Paps gets all these phone calls too in the game (which sometimes include and/or talk about other characters), and Sans has the neutral calls and stuff too. They both have importance roles in the game(s), and are main characters, so they aren't is pretty, strange imo. They certainly aren't sidelined either. Though Sans does like to watch/observe/guide/manipulate/etc. you, but still, not "sidelined".
"And we can’t assume that Sans or Papyrus remember anything about a person who has been removed from space and time. For all they probably know, the only family they have is each other."
Sans does have a picture that says "don't forget" picture, other pictures of people (of people that Frisk doesn't recognize though), and a picture of Sans (looking happy, I think), with Frisk and some of the other (more) main monsters, that can preserve through Resets/time stuff. So I do think it is decently possible, that Sans is trying to remember Gaster and/or others/other stuff; trying very much to cling to that/them, even while it causes him a lot of despair and grief (at times). Like in his Lost SOUL dialogue. And so on.
this video is actually put together perfectly, and the fact that its done by a small youtober with less than 100 subs is crazy. Instant subscribe from me
As a side effect of being shattered across time & space he could have been mostly erased from memory aside from his possible blood family of sans & papyrus
Sans couldn’t have been the one writing the lowercase entries. One of them says they were working on Mettaton, I doubt sans worked on Mettaton
Great video and excellent analysis! I think it doesn't have to be a family member title though. It seems like it could just be facts about Papyrus. I feel like all we really know is that the second thing he has, has a name. Also because of the slant, I feel it could read as either "and a blank blank named blank" OR "and a blank named blank blank".
Good friend, stuffed doll, action figure, arch enemy, alter ego, crush, mentor, hero, teacher, pet, etc etc...
holy crap, you need wayyy more popularity. Keep it up! (:
theres a picture of the page after and you can see the ink bleeding through the other side of it, i forgot what it said exactly but there is a conformation of what it says.
So what do you think "grandpa semi" is?
i think that this was writen at the time that Gaster was conceptualized has Grandpa Semi, being pre Undertale demo.
This is so insane, I LOVE IT.
If you want my thought on the whole aspect. I always believed gaster was there Father It's not cause a fan fiction or anything, but. I just always like to the idea. And he seems older than both of them, but who knows really for sure? That's The Thing, though we don't know. For all we know, sanzan, papyrus and Guster could have come from Delta room originally. For all we know, up is right and left is down. Maybe they all were originally One universe at 1. Point Maybe Delta Roon And under tail We're 1 at 1. Point And maybe the reason why the universe split was because of gaster. But who knows only time will tell Only the creator himself really knows that. But until then, all we have is what we have. In Italian, at least. Gaster has never been truly forgotten. For years in this fan base's mind. And in that way, he truly exists. But then again, I should go. It's rude to talk about someone who is listening.
these videos are very well put together!! you get a new subscriber. also there are a few things that i guess could explain the whole “gaster brother” thing?? but it kind of gets thrown out the window by the falling into the core thing. gasters probably also from the deltarune universe along with sans and papyrus, and he probably has something to do with them ending up in undertale. anyways very good theory video!! great analysis.
in one of the we baby bear episodes there is a short skeleton with yellow eyes which is voiced by toby fox that could be the third brother
Lore of THERE WAS A THIRD SKELETON BROTHER?!! Undertale/Deltarune Theory momentum 100
hey, so, i've realized something about Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans for quite a while now. thought i'd drop it here cuz y'know.
you know that little blinking jingle that people often assume is Gaster's Theme that plays on the *left side?* i believe that it is meant to reference sans' left eye.
oh, and another thing.
sans' left eye blinks cyan and yellow, two colors which represent patience and justice. in deltarune, it's sleepy and sparable. pacify and spare. you can even see two of those colors at once on an enemy name. (again, kinda like sans' eye)
these two colors prominent throughout deltarune gameplay.
deltarune relating heavily to gaster.
idk what do you think lol
What if out of screen sana dies like fatal hit from deltaruns (unused animation of fatal hits that kill. By bug could be used by snowgrave on cheese on early versions)
Im at the end of the video and I just had a wild idea:
So Papyrus and Sans are likely from Deltarune, right?
What if all three of them, Sans, Papyrus and Gaster, all from Deltarune, tried to escape that world because of the roaring, so they flee to an alternate universe in which all of them died so they could replace their alternate selfs?
Except Gaster didnt make it for some reason, so now hes the only one of them that hasnt gotten replaced in the Undertale universe.
Honestly I kinda think this makes sense, because the biggest flaw for me in the Sans is from Deltarune theory has always been that its heavily implied all Undertale characters have a counterpart in Deltarune and vice versa. This would explain how Sans could have gone to Undertake without there suddenly being two Sanses.
Very good video! You’ve earned yourself a sub! Please keep them coming! I’m really running low on deltarune theory videos! I have an addiction that must be fed!
how do you only have 66 subs super underrated
3:12 It could also be to obscure the word 'another', as in another brother.
Edit: 6:35 Oops you were getting to that. Unless he wrote 'another relative'.
Edit: 13:44 Or Papyrus was too young to remember him (which is admittedly also fairly far-fetched).
Babybones
Papyrus does mention a lot that he dislikes hotland, though it could be as a joke. Though fanfictiony, would be interesting if it stems from a bad experience living there in the past, or I'm just dumb and it really is a joke and he does like hotland lol.
Nobody's talking about grandpa semi but isn't it fitting pretty well...?
broskis gonna start ww3 with that theory
isnt this all about Grandpa Semi
the cut character supposedly being sans and pap grandpa?
Now that you started analysing Toby's handwriting, my god, it's so similar to mine. I cannot do consistent writing for the love of me AND I mix cursive and lowercase letters like that.
I don't have a point to make here, it's just a funny observation.
LIES. Comic Sans is a fantastic font. It is easily readable in general, it is accessible to people with reading issues, and it is easily accessible on devices. Papyrus is great for titles, especially if you're using it for something related to Asia Minor and North Africa.
Accepting no slander of these iconic fonts /light-hearted but genuine
I smell a rise of i new yt 21 subs in 4 days i believe in you gl
so you're telling me grandpa semi dosen't exist???? 😭
I think when garter shattered two parts of him made sans and papyrus
You can never rule out that toby could be deliberately misleading us, even in your mockup, there is no reason for the last box to extend so low down.
Also when tf was 11:35 confirmed?
The cofirmation is that if you talk with cinfidence about lies, no one will tell.
Hear me out: 'has a twin brother' named ---'
Great vid
you'd be great at signature forgery 👍
terot cards are confirmed not canon btw
Impressive handwriting analysis
Baby bones
I am your 16th subscriber. How tf did you get so many in a day?? 💀Great video btw
Of course there are 3 skeleton brothers! His name is Babybones! Why is everyone acting like Babybones never existed?
Omg is it Baby Bones
fucccccckkkkkk . I love this theory. lmaooooooooooo
Personally, I think, along with most other people that gaster is the father of the skeleton brothers?
Wasn’t there a photo of 3 people in sans his lab in undertale with don’t forget written by it
Wasn't there a badge and photo of sans happy with other people
Erm if you are a DF expert you know that the drawing shows chara, asriel, and harlow ☝️🤓
very well made video!
your late to the party
I don't care this is quality work for someone less than 100 subs
your so underated
Don't worry, everyone here has a very active social life lol.
third brother? easy. its Grandpa Semi.
Wait os it grandpa or uncle? Also they aren't even brother
baby bones?????
baby bones
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Hi ;)
Amazing 🤩
Um actually a French youtuber talked about it 🤓
And?
@@user-KNP13 Nah it was just to do the comic nerd, wich wasn't funny...
@@CodeSearcher98 Then copypaste the nerd emoji...