I, personally, would LOVE episodes about submarine disasters. Besides the Scorpion and the Thresher, there were diesel boats lost in the early years of the US submarine service. And then the many Soviet submarines lost for various and sundry reasons. Love your channel!
Thanks so much! If I get enough traction, I'll be looking into the logistics of it and seeing if I have time for it all! I'd love to branch out more, however!
The Skipjack class among the most beautiful submarines ever. When I was in the US Navy in the early 80's they were still in service and I had the occasion to see them in port on several occasions.
A battery explosion is a cop out. As soon as water hits the battery, they blow up. It's like someone's cause of death being that their heart stopped beating.
Maybe - however, it is likely, no matter how we feel about it, based upon the evidence I was able to uncover! And that one is also just a theory. Any one of the theories put forth are likely.
A Submarine Battery expels large amounts of Hydrogen and Oxygen while charging or discharging. Prior to WWII, battery explosions were the leading cause of loss of life. It was also the reason of the Argentine Submarine, SAN JUAN a few years ago.
I think the acoustic data would have found more evidence of ships in the area if the Soviets had attacked Scorpion. Furthermore, as more details of the K129 have come to light, it's clear that the US had no reason to sink the vessel, but rather took advantage of catastrophic mechanical failure to gain intel (albeit outdated). This sort of tit for tat behavior sounds believable in a spy thriller from Tom Clancy, but the incidents of the Cold War tend to reveal, once documents have been declassified, that people tended to blunder into them, rather than being premeditated. My brother in law is a former submarine electrician, and the impression that I got from him is that the Navy knows more than it publicly admits regarding Thresher or Scorpion, and it mostly has to do with their then policies on safety and foolproofing submarines to operate at the depths and environments they were pushing with little to no experience in the 1960s. They were, in a sense, overdriving their lights on a dark night. Simply put, there is a reason why the Navy stopped the half-done refits immediately after Scorpion's loss and that there have been no major incidents save for a couple of collisions since then.
One quarter of a second between realizing bad is getting worse, and oblivion. The worst part of the experience would have been the growing understanding that the damage control efforts you were taking part in were taking too much time to become effective.
Great channel! Would love to hear your take on anything that has been hiding, submerged beneath the waves and how it got there, including airplanes, spacecraft and, of course, enormous sea going vessels!!!
Excellent presentation. I worked for a retired submariner who was nuclear trained after tours on diesel boats. I asked him what caused the loss of Scorpion and he gave me an interesting theory. Spooky!
@shipwrecksunday Unfortunately, my former co-worker passed in the late 90's unexpectedly. What I remember is from 34 years ago, but what he described is something hard to forget, so I'll share what he told me. According to him, Scorpion had a not so good reputation, not from the written material condition of the boat, but what he described as being hyper- aggressive when deployed. The word among the submarine force was to stay away from duty on that boat. The theory is she was torpedoed by a ussr submarine, but what he told me is one is one of the ussr task force destroyers Scorpion was playing "cat-and-mouse" with got tired of the games and sunk it. Plausible? Or was he maybe making it up? I never shared this story until a couple months ago with another former co-worker and friend who is also a former submariner of the Thresher/Permit class. He's shared with me what's circulates around his fellow submariners. IMHO, it's time the navy comes clean to what happened to Scorpion, first and foremost for closure for the families.
@@williammoreno2378 whether it's true or not, what is true is that your co-worker who was familiar with the vessel believed it and so that definitely puts creedance in it for me. I think the Navy is hiding something, whether it is the USSR or something miniscule. They need to he honest for the families!
@shipwrecksunday The cold war between the USA and Soviet Union began in 1947 with the Truman Doctrine. It ended in 1991 with the implosion of the Soviet Union. It's inexcusable this cold war secret should stay classified. Why? Its heartless and cruel that spouses extended family, and in some cases children have passed, never knowing what happened to their loved ones.
Elinor this is the best 30 minute detailed analysis of this wreck. Anywhere.. You went full Elinor on it. All the way to the various theories. Times are a little scruffy right now. I was afraid I’d have to lower my support for a short bit. There is no way I can do it. It’s full speed ahead. This is one of your top 5 for sure. Way to go. This script and graphics are remarkable. Wow, again. You are definitely separating yourself from the other channels. Each has their style. You pack the info. No one tells it as well as you. This had to take a very long time to produce. Have a great week.
Those patrols in the North of the USSR were very often ELINT operations. They even managed at a point to tap into the Soviet navy phone lines. The reason why they start early with the search could have been the SOSUS line. It's a interesting Cold War tool of the NATO. 1968 was a bad year for subs. Besides the USS Scorpion, the INS Dakar, the French Minerve and the Soviet K-129 sunk in that year. The Minerve was only found 1999, the Dakar 2019. The K-129 wreck has a great story, search for the Hughes Glomar Explorer.
Absolutely! Specific ships I want to give a full spotlight, so they'll stay on longer episodes on Sundays, but I would love to dissect smaller sections of stories and am thinking on looking into more military ships this year than I did last year!
After watching many of these it’s been said the ones that got off for “personal” reasons actually got off because they knew what had not been done and wanted off before something bad happened.
7:06 Can you work on doing a whole series on these? If not, how about a couple of semi-short (10-30 minutes) videos combining several of these submarines in a compilation? There are not enough videos on this topic and you do such a great job!!! ❤
Excellent description of a nuclear reactor and each component. I worked at Indian Point in Tarrytown NY. Westinghouse and Babcock Wilcox are the two main suppliers of nuclear reactors and equipment. The reactors made in the USA are super safe for many reasons and are NOT carbon reactors like used in many European and soviet designs, (Chernobyl).
Thanks so much! I did some light research on it and I know about fission, so I tried my best! I appreciate your perspective and you adding to the information here!
SERIOUS Competition in covering Aircraft Disasters, but MOST get solved eventually due to the wreckage being more easily accessed/recovered. I HATE unsolved mysteries so carry on explaining (where possible) the reason(s) for Shipwrecks. In Scorpion`s case the USN needs to be more transparent over the cause - what can be SO secret after all this time? Admission of culpability is more commendable than concealment. Q. What class of US 4 Warships were ALL sunk with the fate of only ONE being known? PS(T?), Continued quality content, nice one, A+!
I agree - admitting the truth is so much better than hiding it! The Proteus Class is probably the one you're thinking of, and 3/4 sank! Cheers, First Officer!
@@shipwrecksunday They, amongst others need to be found - where`s RV Petrel - Ah USN. No chance with Humpty Trumpty, hope you Guys/Gals manage to Salvage your Shipwrecked Constitution.
13:46 Air crash channel? Heck yeah. I already subscribe to several aviation channels. If you have never seen "Ruthless Aviator Girl", Ruth's dad flies for a charter air service and until recently he would take six year old Ruth into the cockpit, let her work checklists and also let her work the radio. The FAA, however, saw the videos, and shut down her being in the cockpit because she couldn't see over the console.
Omg! That's horrible - FAA ruining her fun! However, that is amazing that she and her father are into aviation. Flying terrifies me, so air crashes are my worst fear!
If you want your book to sell, choose the most outlandish theory for the cause of the sinking. Sadly, like most accidents the true cause was probably cost-cutting.
Honestly, yes - very true. I think it was more than likely poor maintenance that led to a battery explosion/short that led to a fire, then depressurizing the submarine and causing an implosion. Just from what I've seen, that seems the most likely!
This was a very good video, kudos my friend you did your homework for this one 😂 I do agree, definitely something "fishy" about this one! I will admit it's possible it imploded, i still can't rule out Soviet involvement! We may never know what really happened, in this lifetime anyway! I vote yes on the idea you floated about an aircraft investigation channel. That is if you will have time to start another channel?
Thanks so much! It's hard to say what happened as we know so little, and even less than the government knows! I'm going to look at my schedule and see if there's time for aircraft at this level - I may have to hire an editor at that point, but I love editing my own videos and adding personal touches at the same time!
@@shipwrecksunday exactly! I don't understand why they can't release information on some things? I'm not trying to get political here, but there's nothing to hide. Technology today is so far advanced than it was in 1968, for both countries, so there's no military secrets to hide! Just my two cents worth! 🙂
Scarey the personnel wouldn't have felt anything implosion happens so fast the brain cannot process it. But leading upto, going past crush depth they would have known it was coming. R.I.P poor buggers
It is not banned in the US. As of right now, it is still very prevalent in air conditioning and as aerosol propellants for products like spray paint here!
Most uses of CFCs like freon are now banned or severely restricted by the Montreal Protocol of August 1987, as they have been shown to be responsible for ozone depletion. Brands of Freon containing hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) instead have replaced many uses, but they, too, are under strict control under the Kyoto Protocol, as they are deemed "super-greenhouse effect" gases.
Sorry but the air crash channels community is already overloaded with dozens just by real pilots while shipwreck channels still have room to grow. Keep doing what you're best at.
I wonder if this woman's husband like has all this tapped up and she just reads it you know like it's really him you know researching and knowing about all this stuff and she just reads it for him you know to have a pleasant voice to listen to you know something different most of these channels are me and reading it so it would make the channel unique and make you know something different and a lot more people would describe it's a good idea
Hi there! It's Elinor - I do all of the research, recording, video editing, and video creation. My husband cheers me on. But thanks for assuming the other way around. 😊
Scorpion was lost due to poor material condition, and probably poor procedural compliance. She was a victim of a large battery explosion which killed the crew instantly. The ship continued on and exceeded her crush depth when she imploded. John Craven made many wrong and unscientific presumptions on her loss. The best account of all of this by Bruce Rule. The SAG came to conclusion of a battery explosion. The cause was not accepted by the Navy until 2012. But, conspiracy theories still continue. Signed...a 30 year Submarine Veteran.
I was not able to verify it, so I am not comfortable stating that as fact - however, I invite everyone and anyone to look into these theories and make their own conclusion!
I've never heard a woman narrate a video like this usually the ship guys are just that guys guys guys are interested in Old Navy stuff you know aircraft me I'm interested in you know military Aviation and you know Navy stuff you know usually from you know towards the end of World War II to the modern era
Great Vid and well Reaseached an documented , the Scorpion and Thresher sinkings have always been a Facinating topic for me , but Tragic for their Crews I hope it was Quick , and that They Rest Easy and in Peace ..Again Great vid.
What do you think of the new intro?!
Awesome 💯
I loved it! Such a nice touch!
I’m just glad you kept the same music for the Shipwreck Sunday intro! Also I would be very interested in an aircraft disaster channel as well!!
@@thethesaxman23 absolutely! That music is such a part of our identity and we shall never change it ❤️
Awesome!
I, personally, would LOVE episodes about submarine disasters. Besides the Scorpion and the Thresher, there were diesel boats lost in the early years of the US submarine service. And then the many Soviet submarines lost for various and sundry reasons. Love your channel!
Absolutely! I can do that! Thanks so much!!
Please, videos about all them subs. ❤
Excellent presentation Elinor !! About a very sad situation 🇺🇸
Thanks so much, Rick! It was a horrible situation for those men to be in!
Branching out to jet and aircraft disasters? Splendid idea! The whole thing has been well put together tonight. 🎉🎉
Thanks so much! If I get enough traction, I'll be looking into the logistics of it and seeing if I have time for it all! I'd love to branch out more, however!
Great job, probably the best video on uss scorpion I've seen.
Thanks so much!!
The Skipjack class among the most beautiful submarines ever. When I was in the US Navy in the early 80's they were still in service and I had the occasion to see them in port on several occasions.
They look positively gorgeous and intimidating!
A battery explosion is a cop out. As soon as water hits the battery, they blow up. It's like someone's cause of death being that their heart stopped beating.
Maybe - however, it is likely, no matter how we feel about it, based upon the evidence I was able to uncover! And that one is also just a theory. Any one of the theories put forth are likely.
A Submarine Battery expels large amounts of Hydrogen and Oxygen while charging or discharging. Prior to WWII, battery explosions were the leading cause of loss of life. It was also the reason of the Argentine Submarine, SAN JUAN a few years ago.
yes I would most definitely would be interested in an Air accidents video.
Thanks so much!
I think the acoustic data would have found more evidence of ships in the area if the Soviets had attacked Scorpion. Furthermore, as more details of the K129 have come to light, it's clear that the US had no reason to sink the vessel, but rather took advantage of catastrophic mechanical failure to gain intel (albeit outdated). This sort of tit for tat behavior sounds believable in a spy thriller from Tom Clancy, but the incidents of the Cold War tend to reveal, once documents have been declassified, that people tended to blunder into them, rather than being premeditated. My brother in law is a former submarine electrician, and the impression that I got from him is that the Navy knows more than it publicly admits regarding Thresher or Scorpion, and it mostly has to do with their then policies on safety and foolproofing submarines to operate at the depths and environments they were pushing with little to no experience in the 1960s. They were, in a sense, overdriving their lights on a dark night. Simply put, there is a reason why the Navy stopped the half-done refits immediately after Scorpion's loss and that there have been no major incidents save for a couple of collisions since then.
Totally agree with you! I think it's much more likely to be a mechanical failure than anything else!
That image of the sound waves of the implosion that notes when the crew died is so chilling.
It is. It's horrifying.
One quarter of a second between realizing bad is getting worse, and oblivion. The worst part of the experience would have been the growing understanding that the damage control efforts you were taking part in were taking too much time to become effective.
Well done. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you do much! Great to see you!
Great channel! Would love to hear your take on anything that has been hiding, submerged beneath the waves and how it got there, including airplanes, spacecraft and, of course, enormous sea going vessels!!!
Thanks so much!! I'd love to branch out sometime! I appreciate your input!! 😁
Thanks again for the content
Thanks so much for watching! Great to see you!
Excellent presentation. I worked for a retired submariner who was nuclear trained after tours on diesel boats.
I asked him what caused the loss of Scorpion and he gave me an interesting theory.
Spooky!
Interesting! I'd love to hear what he had to say with the amount of experience he had!
@shipwrecksunday Unfortunately, my former co-worker passed in the late 90's unexpectedly.
What I remember is from 34 years ago, but what he described is something hard to forget, so I'll share what he told me.
According to him, Scorpion had a not so good reputation, not from the written material condition of the boat, but what he described as being hyper- aggressive when deployed. The word among the submarine force was to stay away from duty on that boat.
The theory is she was torpedoed by a ussr submarine, but what he told me is one is one of the ussr task force destroyers Scorpion was playing "cat-and-mouse" with got tired of the games and sunk it.
Plausible? Or was he maybe making it up? I never shared this story until a couple months ago with another former co-worker and friend who is also a former submariner of the Thresher/Permit class. He's shared with me what's circulates around his fellow submariners.
IMHO, it's time the navy comes clean to what happened to Scorpion, first and foremost for closure for the families.
@@williammoreno2378 whether it's true or not, what is true is that your co-worker who was familiar with the vessel believed it and so that definitely puts creedance in it for me. I think the Navy is hiding something, whether it is the USSR or something miniscule. They need to he honest for the families!
@shipwrecksunday The cold war between the USA and Soviet Union began in 1947 with the Truman Doctrine. It ended in 1991 with the implosion of the Soviet Union. It's inexcusable this cold war secret should stay classified.
Why?
Its heartless and cruel that spouses extended family, and in some cases children have passed, never knowing what happened to their loved ones.
Love the video A plane channel sounds interesting prehaps if the planes are good maybe future channel based on trains ?
I'd love to look into that, as well! Great idea!
First time viewer. Excellent
Thanks so much!
There are a number of things about your content and format I really appreciate. Insta subscribe.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you!
Hi Eleanor! Kudos to you for saying fission, not fusion like most "reporters " these days.
I love science, so the difference is huge to me! Thanks for watching!!
Looking forward to this!:-)
Thank you so much!!
Elinor this is the best 30 minute detailed analysis of this wreck. Anywhere.. You went full Elinor on it. All the way to the various theories. Times are a little scruffy right now. I was afraid I’d have to lower my support for a short bit. There is no way I can do it. It’s full speed ahead. This is one of your top 5 for sure. Way to go. This script and graphics are remarkable. Wow, again. You are definitely separating yourself from the other channels. Each has their style. You pack the info. No one tells it as well as you. This had to take a very long time to produce. Have a great week.
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it!
Bookstein F.L. talk about it in his book "Measuring and Reasoning: Numerical Inference in the Sciences" in ch. 1
Those patrols in the North of the USSR were very often ELINT operations. They even managed at a point to tap into the Soviet navy phone lines.
The reason why they start early with the search could have been the SOSUS line. It's a interesting Cold War tool of the NATO.
1968 was a bad year for subs. Besides the USS Scorpion, the INS Dakar, the French Minerve and the Soviet K-129 sunk in that year. The Minerve was only found 1999, the Dakar 2019. The K-129 wreck has a great story, search for the Hughes Glomar Explorer.
Thank you for adding this! I'm planning on looking more into submarines, and I'm betting 1968 will be a year I return to often!
I'd love a channel about airplane wrecks
Thanks so much! I'm looking into it!
Sorry..there aren.t any.
@@catface3473 I've seen some aircrash centric channels and they are all very well-made! It's a difficult space to get into
Great analysis, so much information in such a short video, quite a bit I had not aware of. Hearty congratulations:-)
Thank you so much, sir!! It's great to see you!
New intro is superb. This video is saved for my morning commute tomorrow.
Want to have something good to listen to on my way in on a Monday.
Thanks so much, sir! We shall see you in the morning!
Well done, Miss! Yet another masterpiece of a video. By the way, I absolutely love the new intro👍👍👍
Thank you so much!!
Another great documentary! For the Friday show the NS Savannah needs an episode and the Empire State VI.
Absolutely! Specific ships I want to give a full spotlight, so they'll stay on longer episodes on Sundays, but I would love to dissect smaller sections of stories and am thinking on looking into more military ships this year than I did last year!
Scorpion didn't get her full subsafe work-up because she was tagged for a program to test war conditions effects on the attack boats of her class.
Thanks so much for adding this!
Really great channel, glad I found ya
I'm so glad you're here! Welcome to the crew!
You speak so well, a great narrator. Subbed. No pun intended.
Welcome to the crew!
After watching many of these it’s been said the ones that got off for “personal” reasons actually got off because they knew what had not been done and wanted off before something bad happened.
I can see that being true!
7:06
Can you work on doing a whole series on these? If not, how about a couple of semi-short (10-30 minutes) videos combining several of these submarines in a compilation? There are not enough videos on this topic and you do such a great job!!! ❤
Absolutely I can! I am definitely looking into more submarines and will be making more videos on them in the future!
Excellent description of a nuclear reactor and each component. I worked at Indian Point in Tarrytown NY. Westinghouse and Babcock Wilcox are the two main suppliers of nuclear reactors and equipment. The reactors made in the USA are super safe for many reasons and are NOT carbon reactors like used in many European and soviet designs, (Chernobyl).
Thanks so much! I did some light research on it and I know about fission, so I tried my best! I appreciate your perspective and you adding to the information here!
Unfortunately the diagram you showed was for a BWR. I worked as an operator on both BWR and PWR. Navy nuke submariner
@@The7humpwump still accurate!
@@The7humpwump ah, thank you for this correction!!
SERIOUS Competition in covering Aircraft Disasters, but MOST get solved eventually due to the wreckage being more easily accessed/recovered. I HATE unsolved mysteries so carry on explaining (where possible) the reason(s) for Shipwrecks. In Scorpion`s case the USN needs to be more transparent over the cause - what can be SO secret after all this time? Admission of culpability is more commendable than concealment. Q. What class of US 4 Warships were ALL sunk with the fate of only ONE being known? PS(T?), Continued quality content, nice one, A+!
I agree - admitting the truth is so much better than hiding it! The Proteus Class is probably the one you're thinking of, and 3/4 sank! Cheers, First Officer!
@@shipwrecksunday They, amongst others need to be found - where`s RV Petrel - Ah USN. No chance with Humpty Trumpty, hope you Guys/Gals manage to Salvage your Shipwrecked Constitution.
PS They ALL sank!@@shipwrecksunday
New content about one of the most mysterious Coldwater sub losses after the k129?
Im about this
Thanks so much!!
13:46 Air crash channel? Heck yeah. I already subscribe to several aviation channels. If you have never seen "Ruthless Aviator Girl", Ruth's dad flies for a charter air service and until recently he would take six year old Ruth into the cockpit, let her work checklists and also let her work the radio. The FAA, however, saw the videos, and shut down her being in the cockpit because she couldn't see over the console.
Omg! That's horrible - FAA ruining her fun! However, that is amazing that she and her father are into aviation. Flying terrifies me, so air crashes are my worst fear!
Awesome as always! If you need another ship, check out the Island Queen disaster from 1947 in Pittsburgh.
Thank you so much! I will definitely add her to my list!
If you want your book to sell, choose the most outlandish theory for the cause of the sinking. Sadly, like most accidents the true cause was probably cost-cutting.
Honestly, yes - very true. I think it was more than likely poor maintenance that led to a battery explosion/short that led to a fire, then depressurizing the submarine and causing an implosion. Just from what I've seen, that seems the most likely!
Pretty sure the guys who chose not to fix the sub are the same ones working for Nasa before every disaster.
You'd think! Thanks for your comment!
This was a very good video, kudos my friend you did your homework for this one 😂
I do agree, definitely something "fishy" about this one!
I will admit it's possible it imploded, i still can't rule out Soviet involvement!
We may never know what really happened, in this lifetime anyway!
I vote yes on the idea you floated about an aircraft investigation channel. That is if you will have time to start another channel?
Thanks so much! It's hard to say what happened as we know so little, and even less than the government knows! I'm going to look at my schedule and see if there's time for aircraft at this level - I may have to hire an editor at that point, but I love editing my own videos and adding personal touches at the same time!
@@shipwrecksunday exactly! I don't understand why they can't release information on some things?
I'm not trying to get political here, but there's nothing to hide. Technology today is so far advanced than it was in 1968, for both countries, so there's no military secrets to hide!
Just my two cents worth! 🙂
Scarey the personnel wouldn't have felt anything implosion happens so fast the brain cannot process it. But leading upto, going past crush depth they would have known it was coming. R.I.P poor buggers
Totally agree. The sense of unease, impending doom, and that final "oh sh*t" moment before implosion would be terrifying. Rest in peace to them!
The new intro is great. ❤
Thanks so much!! ❤️
Freon has been prohibited in the EU since 2011 because of excessive climate warming effects. I hope it is the same in the US?
It is not banned in the US. As of right now, it is still very prevalent in air conditioning and as aerosol propellants for products like spray paint here!
Most uses of CFCs like freon are now banned or severely restricted by the Montreal Protocol of August 1987, as they have been shown to be responsible for ozone depletion. Brands of Freon containing hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs) instead have replaced many uses, but they, too, are under strict control under the Kyoto Protocol, as they are deemed "super-greenhouse effect" gases.
That's interesting! Thank you for telling me that!
@@shipwrecksunday And thanks for this great video.
"freon" is a brand name, " refrigerant" is what you want to say.
I stated that. 😁
Sorry but the air crash channels community is already overloaded with dozens just by real pilots while shipwreck channels still have room to grow. Keep doing what you're best at.
I really appreciate your input! I do not want to pretend I have expertise where I do not, and aircraft are just not my specialty! Cheers!
Fission. I think you mean the ONLY current process.
I said Fission.
Wow you are fast! You specified it used in this situation. Sounded like there was another option. We all know fusion is always 30yrs away. Lol
BTW never seen a pic of scorpion before. Subscribed
@@mikecyanide7492 fusion is on the rise, but in experimental stages. When it is usable, it will be more powerful than fission reactions.
@@mikecyanide7492 thbak you so much! I appreciate you and your honest feedback! ❤️
bays-eee-n not bay yeez ann lol but i forgive you
Thanks for the correction! 😁❤️
Aircrash channel, please
Thank you! I'll definitely be looking into the logistics of it!
I wonder if this woman's husband like has all this tapped up and she just reads it you know like it's really him you know researching and knowing about all this stuff and she just reads it for him you know to have a pleasant voice to listen to you know something different most of these channels are me and reading it so it would make the channel unique and make you know something different and a lot more people would describe it's a good idea
Hi there! It's Elinor - I do all of the research, recording, video editing, and video creation. My husband cheers me on. But thanks for assuming the other way around. 😊
@@shipwrecksundayI don't think you could get another ounce of irony into that user name with a shoehorn.
@@user-hx2ve8sy6b it's so true 😂😂😂
Scorpion was lost due to poor material condition, and probably poor procedural compliance. She was a victim of a large battery explosion which killed the crew instantly. The ship continued on and exceeded her crush depth when she imploded. John Craven made many wrong and unscientific presumptions on her loss. The best account of all of this by Bruce Rule. The SAG came to conclusion of a battery explosion. The cause was not accepted by the Navy until 2012. But, conspiracy theories still continue. Signed...a 30 year Submarine Veteran.
I appreciate your perspective! This is the most likely explanation I've come across.
Scorpion was destroyed by Russian s. This is true
I was not able to verify it, so I am not comfortable stating that as fact - however, I invite everyone and anyone to look into these theories and make their own conclusion!
I've never heard a woman narrate a video like this usually the ship guys are just that guys guys guys are interested in Old Navy stuff you know aircraft me I'm interested in you know military Aviation and you know Navy stuff you know usually from you know towards the end of World War II to the modern era
There are lots of women that enjoy military history. There's a lot of women that are PART of military history.
Great Vid and well Reaseached an documented , the Scorpion and Thresher sinkings have always been a Facinating topic for me , but Tragic for their Crews I hope it was Quick , and that They Rest Easy and in Peace ..Again Great vid.
Thanks so much! I do want to cover Thresher as well. Rest in peace to both crews ❤️