The Story and Return of the Tiger Driver '91 (Storm Driver '93)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Will Ospreay shocked the world and created a lot of talk when he used the Tiger Driver '91 on Kenny Omega at AEW and NJPW's Forbidden Door, a dangerous move associated with the legendary Mitsuharu Misawa. But what's the history of this move? How often did Misawa use it? Is it his move? All this and more in this video all about one of Puroresu's most infamous finishers. Enjoy!
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0:00 Intro
2:02 Misawa Debuts the Tiger Driver '91 against Akira Taue
6:45 Misawa's History With The Move vs. Kobashi, Kawada, Kojima, Marufuji etc.
16:38 The Move Beyond Misawa - Why So Rare?
21:09 Will Ospreay Uses The Tiger Driver '91 - Impact, Reactions and the Future
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Kim Justice posting is always a sign of a great day
I knew a lot of big moves nowadays had been invented in Japan, but I had no idea so many came from Joshi wrestling.
Rule of thumb; If you see a cool move, a Joshi probably did it first.
They had a banger for Stardom recently, expect to see those spots stolen very soon.
Two more examples: Megumi Kudo's Kudo Driver/Kudome Valentine (Hurricane Helm's vetebreaker) and Jaguar Yokota's suplex powerslam (Goldberg's jackhammer).
The loop of Misawa dropping Johnny Ace had me chuckling
fuck johnny ace. he was a mid-level worker that the japanese could work with to make him look decent and then went back to the u.s. as a lackey for vincenzo.
My personal opinion on it is that the move should be allowed but used rarely. Misawa used it just over a dozen times over his whole career, and having it as something you can bust out very rarely for a huge match at a big event makes it a spectacle, an attraction. I wouldn't want to see it every week, but seeing it like I did at Forbidden Door 2, as a one off to show the enmity between these two competitors... That's some powerful storytelling right there.
Bonus points if the move's kayfabe banned, make a big stink about it the following show with talk about wrestlers getting fined or being given a suspension. It adds to the reputation of these moves and makes it easier to get into the story.
And omega kicked out of it. Yeah amazing story telling lol. More like amazing way to destroy the credibility of a move
Long story short: most big Japanese finishers were invented by joshis.
Fantastic video as always! Just 2 small things.
1. Ospreay actually debuted the move against Taichi earlier this year before the Davis match.
2. Marufuji kicked out of the Emerald Flowsion Kai immediately before Misawa hit the Tiger Driver ‘91 on him.
Any chance of a history on the Burning Hammer? According to Fire Pro Wrestling, the move dates back to 1978.
Kinda thinking of this also for the Kawada Driver AKA Ganso Bomb.
@@LuisHGarcia Ganso Bomb is an obvious no-brainer for a retrospective along with the Burning Hammer. I wonder whether there should be a cameo for the Diamond Head powerbomb in any Burning Hammer documentary?
Loved that Omega said he doesnt do anything he doesnt believe he can do 100% perfectly its a healthy Mindset it just so happens hes really really good at pretending to fall directly on his Neck and Head and not die
What a great video breaking down this move and it's relatives. Appreciate the shout out as well! Keep up the great work
One thing you can take away from this video going forward is this: If you see a modern wrestler pull out some kind of insane, awesome move in a match, chances are good that it was invented by a Joshi wrestler.
Those women are crazy.
I personally loved the addition of the move. It subverted expectations. I was there live and I thought he was going for a 2nd Stormbreaker, but when Ospreay dropped Omega on his head/shoulder, I audibly gasped and leapt from my seat. The whole arena was in shock. I like to think Omega was able to kick out thanks to the energy the Canadian audience was giving him, but the final Hidden Blade/Stormbreaker combo was just too much.
The way I see it, Ospreay/Omega put it in the match to show tribute to Misawa due to Ospreay encroaching on Misawa levels of Meltzer rated 5-star matches, this match being the one that gave him 26 compared to Misawa's 25. I also think it could possibly be a teaser for the trilogy's finale where one of the 2 potentially pulls out a Kobashi-style Burning Hammer. Either way, these 2 killed it in both their Wrestle Kingdom 17 and Forbidden Door 2023 matches. I fully expect them to have another instant classic whether it be at All In 2023 or next year's Wrestle Kingdom 18.
Great videos as always Kim. Love your passion for Puroresu and I'm always looking forward to more videos!
According to my old backyard buddy, Robbie Eagles (NJPW), Wil Osprey grew up obsessed with our old Aussie backyard wrestling scene in the 2000s. We we're obsessed with crazy neck bumps. Nobody ever got hurt. Here's a vid of what we used to do. ruclips.net/video/YtgFMxncU_g/видео.html
Ps: Kyle from Aussie Open also came from our scene. I beat him once lol.
Here's Ospreys favourite federation
ruclips.net/video/-9za7MsToec/видео.html
Oh ThunderFilez was an American yarder at the same time we were doing it in Aus. He wrestled under the name Tiny and he was amazing. Our scenes were good mates online. He's got footage of his matches on his channel.
I can’t believe Kim mentioned one of my favorite Luchadors Abismo Negro el Mejor Rudo Viper Xtreme LLL the true King of the Tombstone a forbidden technique in Lucha Libre which made Abismo a dangerous heel as he could pull it out anytime and end the match
i'm ded at the clip you used of Cornette 0:55 perfect.
You should do a video on Michinoku Pro, it had some of the best Jr. Heavyweights in Japan.
I was surprised when Will bust out the Tiger Driver 91.
Videos like this make me so happy you have a dedicated wrestling channel, makes it more likely to get videos like this
06:48 - the only other people while he was alive, to my knowledge, were Hayabusa on Masato Tanaka during their FMW Double Titles Match, and Megumi Kudo hitting it on Combat Toyoda during Toyoda's retirement match
Quackenbush did it against Shane Storm in 2008.
That explains why Hayabusa has a Tiger Driver '91 as his 2nd Max front grapple move in Virtual Pro Wrestling 2.
Absolutely brilliant video. Your wrestling content is A1, and I find myself rewatching them in passing because there's such little else that hits on the topics you do with such detail and fandom.
I'm with you on how it 100% should've been the finish, given its association with Misawa
This was very fun! Always enjoy your channel.
The true moral: Joshi wrestlers invented all the cool moves
I remember subscribing to your main channel after watching the top 10 best/worst wrestling games video a long time ago, being hungry for any kind of wrestling related content, and trying to learn English too. Now that I feel confident with my English level, I would like to thank you for all of your hard work during these years. These retrospectives are amazing! Like, OSW or Wrestling Bios levels of amazing. I really appreciate your effort in creating these videos, and I hope your channel keeps growing.
Great video Kim. A lot of work went into this. ❤
I like that two of the big supermoves, the other being the Ganso Bomb, are the result of mistakes.
Also, I do wish Ospreay had named it Storm Driver '23 using the year of its debut like Misawa did, not the year of his birth.
Really cool breakdown, love it-- thank you! Keep up the great work
Really enjoy your content and am learning a lot about wrestling. Please keep up the good work!
A new Kim justice video always brightens my day...
Excellent video! Even a casual wredtling fan like me can nerd out about the history, awesomeness and risk factor of a move like this.
I had NO idea you had a wrestling channel this is awesome!! 😃
The belly-to-belly suplex is also a legendary wrestling move in Japan for both good and bad reasons.
Another great history, Kim. Always a quality watch. My opinion on the TD91’, is it should be a special occasion move. The risk is there and you want to make sure you do it crisp.
I love you man! Great work
I love all of your videos so much!!!
i like how almost all of our favorite wrestler's favorite moves came from joshi wrestling. god bless those tough japanese women.
ladies are the true innovators in Japanese wrestling
Love your videos!!!
I just want to point out that, with Misawa, they started to put his stepover facelock over on the tour after the 1991 Champion Carnival, where that Kobashi match had been booked. That's another factor of my theory that the first TD91 was botched, and that the move was most likely phased out because the two men most likely to take it (Jumbo and Taue) had that height difference with Misawa which could have made the proper rotation harder. Wada has recalled that they were worried that the facelock wouldn't go over as a finish when they made Jumbo submit to it in September. Perhaps a submission finish was where they would have gone anyway, but the timing of that move's emergence is still worth pointing out.
Another remark, specifically on the product at the time. The way that I would describe post-Tenryu, pre-7/29/93 King's Road (which I call the "bright, fun, and violent" period, to roughly translate their slogan) is that it hinged on sequences of similar but distinct moves, to reap the aesthetic benefits of repetition without outright repeating moves. Baba didn't have as much specific input on matches as it's often assumed he did-that was more Fuchi's job as on-site supervisor (same position Choshu had in Nooj at the time)-but he had overarching critiques. One of these was that, if a move only got a 2-count, then it should not be used again as a finish, or even a false finish. Think of Misawa's German suplex->Tiger suplex sequence. I believe the TD91 as originally conceived was just going to be the followup to the standard TD.
Another amazing video! Thank you so much, Kim! Could there be more wrestling move deep dives on the horizon??
Also, it always brings a warm smile to my face when I'm reminded that so many awesome moves were likely invented by a Joshi. Those 80's and early 90's Joshi were so, so far ahead of their time. It's unreal.
These are great! I have you thought about doing a video on Michinoku Pro? I feel like there is some interesting stuff on it.
How was I not subscribed until just now? I know I've seen your videos a few times. A video about my favorite Japanese wrestler. imo greatest Japanese possibly full stop greatest wrestler ever. I think Bret Hart vs Mitsuharu Misawa is the greatest match never to happen. Oh and you had Road Rash backing music at one point in the video! God your videos are so good
Pretty sure Bret fought Misawa when he was Tiger Mask II in the 80s.
Haven't even watched this yet and already know it's gonna be incredible. =)
I am once again asking for a video on the rise of the 4 pillars
If you're interested, the Joseph Monticello channel has a whole video essay series on them. It's called 'Walking The King's Road.'
I always felt the exodus was a blessing in disguise for AJPW, even though getting away from Kings Road hurt them majorly they escaped a lot of problems down the line.
Nah the exodus was bad for them and the industry in Japan as a whole. AJPW never recovered and now there is no true number 2 promotion in Japan.
@@robwood1987 NOAH's run as the best wasn't really long honestly 03-07 maybe was it's peak. After that there were a lot of problems going on from Misawa dying to Yakuza scandals. NOAH's literally almost at the same level of AJPW by their own faults. AJPW they've had a really good roster for 7-8 years now, it's just the state of the economy & the scandals from pro wrestling of other companies they've had to deal with.
All these types of videos teach me is that Joshi wrestlers are severely underrated. In other news, water is wet
It wouldn't be the first time a move was invented because of a botch. A great example of that would be the DDT by Jake The Snake Roberts.
Great great great footage
nice shout out to Jaguar. she was definitely quite the innovator. she was the first to do a Jackhammer as well.
Well done
More please😊
I was just surprised Kenny was willing to take the move with all surgeries/ injuries he had to take of the other year.
Would you be able to do a video on the Joshi wrestlers and the moves they innovated? I was surprised by how they preformed many of these super moves years before the men popularized them.
Just in case, "Martinete"'s last "e" is not silent, and martinete is the literal translation for piledriver (the construction device), so Abismo Negro would be "the king of the piledriver".
MDickie's Wrestling Empire actually has the TD98 named the Jay Driller as a tribute for Briscoe
Can you do the burning hammer next? Great video btw
I may be misremembering, but didn't Kid Kash use the move in ECW? I vaguely remember hearing stories of him and Taz getting into a huge argument about it backstage because Kash used the move on Taz's cousin or something like that.
Yeah, he did use it in ECW. He also used it in a '98 WWF match against Taka Michinoku.
Even in New Japan now, one rarely sees classic All Japan Finishers, I know Guenther does a version of The Emerald Flowson he calls the Last Symphony, but it is a much more safer version.
I wanna say Taichi and/or Sanada have busted out some AJPW moves in recent years.
loved it
He also just used it on one of the best looking new talent in NJPW, ELP. He even put him over incredibly in his post match little promo.
Kim you should do a video about moves Joshi wrestlers whom created iconic moves
Even death match legend jun kasai uses something like tiger driver 98 as a finisher, I was impressed when I first saw it
For what it's worth, HHH did an accidental pseudo Tiger Driver '91 once on TV back in his Connecticut blue blood days. The clip floated about the internet for a while. The guy landed right on his head and neck from the Pedigree because he thought he was taking a TD '91 or something ruclips.net/video/gLnGnD92W68/видео.html
1:03 this is why RVD is Michigan's favorite wrestler and not Nash
I’ll definitely always prefer RVD over Nash any day
Regardless of your feelings over CM Punk, his promos against Nash where great, and ironically to a degree true: him mocking the man for Kliq being both the sound of his knees and what people are doing when he’s on TV aren’t wrong
Nash’s issues with his knees including the infamous immediate collapse during the nWo vs WWE multi-man match being prime example of his embarrassing history with them
And him being the record holder practically of worst WWF/WWE champion via buyrates since no one really cared for him being over Bret Hart or Shawn Michaels, especially since by that point fans were more interested in workrate, technical, and skilled wrestler styles and matches as opposed to the over the top muscle bound giants Vince was pushing during and directly after Hogan’s Era
can you do a video essay on moves invented by joshi wrestlers
I remember downloading clips of the 98 match after it happened with dialup internet 😂
Thank For The Great Story Video 📖🙊🤯🇯🇵🤼♂️🥰😍💗✌️🙂💐🌟🥇🏆
6:35 lookit that ref and his goofy dancing😂
3:38 Jay Briscoe later used this as his finish the Jay Driller
in 1989 moves similar to the tiger driver 91 were used by tenryu and jumbo
"A daily driver..." Well played.
I wish someone would use kenta kobashi's rare signature move black crush. I could see moxley pulling it off.
I can't stop looking away the tiger driver ospreay did to omega. Holy shit it was nasty
I think the one with Kawada from 1999 was actually a botch. You'll notice that Kawada lands far heavier on his right side on the impact, and given the state of he and Misawa's relationship at that point I doubt Kawada would have agreed to that kind of a finish where he's beaten so badly that a 10 second gap between finisher and pin makes no difference. Not to mention just the general oddity of him setting up for another move for an opponent he knew wasn't getting up. The other thing that leads me to believe this is that Misawa stopped using the move after that for about 4 years, almost like he saw the move as too dangerous and hung it up for a long while after.
Kawada, Misawa, Kobashi had some the dangerous Moves
Yeah i agree it should have bbeen the finish for the match. It hasn't been known to be a super move for ospreay enough to kick out.
1st - Double Underhook Piledriver
2nd - Double Underhook Powerbomb
3rd - Double Underhook Ganso Bomb
Tyler Reeks used a Argentine DDT
My best❤❤❤
They used it because this match was the one where they knew that Ospreay was going to break Misawa's 5 star match record.
JOHNNY ACE IS JOHN FUCKING LAURENITIS?!?!??!!!!
Ofc
Didn't Diesel used to have some really dangerous finisher?
1. botch move in 1991
2. be so awesome that you incorporate the botch into king's road lore and use it a small handful of times in your entire career
3. Will Ospreay uses it in a New Japan Cup match against a stablemate for the meme
Obviously will is such a incredible wrestler and obviously has so many epic matches but I'd say he should only use tiger driver 91 once in a while in a mega match like against omega and it should always be the finish imo
I’m ngl some of these head drop bumps are just hard to watch, especially the ones on misowa because of the knowledge that these bumps are the reason he died, it’s sad these guys destroyed their bodies so recklessly then they didn’t need to
Man all Japan fuck me no wonder Kingston loves this era on Wrestling i can understand now
Steiner messed up the double arm powerbomb and did this exact move in the NWA on Butch Reed back before Doom lost their masks? That would have been like late 1989 or early 1990. I'll see if I can find it and comment with a video's name, because we thought the Doom guy was dead LOL!!! So Scott had to have seen it in Japan before because 99% of his moves came from Japan!
I think Rick rude has done a tiger driver to ultimate warrior if I’m not mistaken but dropped him safely
That was a ganso bomb
@@BiggieTrismegistus you’re right it was
How the hell did Johnny Ace get a match like that
Blessed is the day
Maybe Will Ospreay's Tiger Driver '91 move did not finish the match because he had not perfected the move yet. Hopefully in their 3rd match he would be able to master the usage of the move.
(Goku can't properly use ultra instinct first time too 🤔)
21:00 Wow, that wasn't the finish!
Is the tyler driver that tyler bate does is that not a version of the tiger driver 91????
No, that's the more commonly used and much safer Tiger Driver '97. I think he even calls it Tyler Driver 97 (that and he was born in 97)
No he calls it Tyler Driver but it's not really a driver it's just a tiger bomb
@@Kr4ShSkeL There's no such thing as a tiger bomb unless you're referring to the Black Tiger Bomb, which is a sitout crucifix pin and not the move in question. It's a tiger driver.
@@ItDoesntMatterReally are you trolling me ? A double underhook powerbomb is a tiger bomb
@@Kr4ShSkeL Nope, not trolling. It's a Tiger Driver. There are many kinds. Tiger Mask never came up with a move called the Tiger Bomb. Search Tiger Bomb and all you'll get is ads for sports rub cream and little else.
How someone like Johnny Ace can have such a great run in Japan then be a WWE shill where they pretend no other wrestling exists is beyond me
Bro are you really complaining that Omega kicked out ??? If people kicked out of the move when Misawa himself did it then why the fk can't they kick out when it's someone else ? And it's not like Omega no sold the move he was dead and lost 10 seconds later
How are all the Japanese wrestlers from back then not all paralyzed throwing around moves like this, even if somewhat rarely.
I mean Kawada's Gonzo Bomb was way more brutal but I guess its a botch but damn
You got the botch story backwards. The kobashi bump was the botched one. Watch his arm slip loose from the underhook. He slipped out and Misawa reacted very quickly to protect him and the match.
This is why most modern wrestlers dont get it. Why do that move just to not win with it
And a 2 count....
Is this move in 2K23?
I don't believe it is. It used to be in the Smackdown games ages ago as the Dangerous Driver.
*I would be happy to NEVER see it again*
I certainly don't want to see Kenny Omega take it again
Appreciate the raw truth and pretty much Gif of Johnny getting beaten by Misawa
Especially since now a days any mockery is pretty much well deserved after all the Yesman crap he’s been doing for Vince