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Gouda cheese does not date to 1184!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Everywhere on the internet, there are claims that Gouda dates back to 1184 and is one of the oldest cheeses in Europe still made today. But not only is this mysterious record almost impossible to identify or track down, Gouda as we know it today is in fact a product of 17th century Dutch cheese making innovation.
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View of Gouda Seen from the Southeast with the Janskerk in the Center (17th Century), Metropolitan Museum of Art (www.metmuseum...., Public domain)
Gouda city map 1585, in Georg Braun and Franz Hogenberg, Vol IV (14) Gouda), Cologne: Peter von Brachel, 1588 (David Rumsey Map Collection, David Rumsey Map Center, Stanford Libraries www.davidrumse... CC BY-NC-SA 3.0)
00:00 Introduction
01:45 Was Gouda first made in 1184?
03:33 Dutch Cheese History
07:32 Making Gouda
13:44 Outro
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This being the top result for "gouda 1184" leads me to believe that Wikipedia is misinformed
As always, a fascinating and interesting angle on a topic we love--cheese :)
Another excellent video, thanks -
very interesting and informative.
Unable to add any details, but my colleagues from the Netherlands will be grateful that you explained the difference between Holland and the Netherlands...
Thank you. Ever since I learned the difference, it's bugged me when they're used interchangably.
Fascinating. I really enjoy your videos. They're well made.
Thank you. I enjoy making them
And here I always thought "Holland" was synonymous with all of the Netherlands. I always learn from your videos!
It's often used that way, which I think is because of the region's history (which I don't know a huge amount about). Thanks for watching 😁
Very clearly not an ancient cheese, at least the type today! Another awesome video, I'm recommending to many friends.
Thanks very much
Excellent videos. Clearly excellent research. You deserve many more views. I'll be following. Thank You.
Excellent. Very interesting. In my unqualified opinion i believe you're right about the age of Gouda.
Thank you 😁
What do you think? Is Gouda a 17th century cheese, or is it from the 12th century or earlier?
I think it's a 17th century cheese. There's so much that occurred then that's makes it what it is that wasn't there in the 12th century. Great as always btw 😊
Gouda cheese is much older it has been traded since 1184 in gouda as all cheeses come from around gouda , different towns and vilages . the process of making this cheese has been around for close to 2000 years.
It would be seriously cool if there is evidence that Gouda dates back 2000 years. When I researched this video, I couldn't find anything other than references to cheese being made in Holland at that time, but nothing about how it was made. So, if you have other information suggesting that cheese was made in Holland in ways similar to Gouda today, I would love to know where to find it.
@@cheesehistory its quite simple to check as its the cheese making process , Chees it self was well known it started around 800 BC even some pottery was found with this ancient cheese . the cheese markets gave it their distinct name , or the region it was produced . even julius ceasar made reference about cheese beeing eaten by germanic tribes in what is now the netherlands and even specifcly naming the regions that where best suited for chees production . and these included the regions of modern province of zeeland , Province of south holland ( the region where gouda cheese is made also closest to the roman boarder at that time) and province of north holland. as the wet grass lands where ideal for catle and dairy production .
Its quite an interesting history what is now the netherlands .
@@marcusfranconium3392 Yes, I know that cheese making goes back to at least 8000 BC and that Julius Caesar mentions cheese making in the Holland area. I discuss Caesar's reference in the video. However, Gouda is made a specific way involving washing the curds, and that step wasn't developed until the 17th century. So what we call Gouda today wasn't developed until quite recently.
I agree that the history of the Netherlands is super interesting and the history of it's cheese is fascinating. I wish more information about it survived from 2000 years ago.
@@cheesehistory The process it self of making the cheese and even washing the curds is recorded history , they found pottery with this exact method of washing the curds etc .As it contained remnants of that cheese , the only thing that realy changed was a standardisation in the 14th and 15th centuries when they started to export cheese abroad and the quality had to be maintained . And mass production came in to effect . including market rights ( the rights to be called a city )That ensured the quality of items sold .the gildes made it even more high qualtiy and standardisation . So yo can see the methods of making this cheese stayed the same , they only refined it .
@@marcusfranconium3392 Can you let me know the details of the paper/s discussing the analysis of the pottery so I can read them? It sounds very interesting.