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Why can’t you make Stilton cheese in Stilton (and was it ever made there)?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Stilton cheese can’t be made in the town of Stilton because it is against the rules of the Stilton cheese PDO (protected designation of origin). But why those rules are in place and whether Stilton cheese was ever made in Stilton are down to the history of Stilton and its famous cheese.
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Images
The Bell Inn Public House sign by Geographer, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons
The Bell Inn by Enchufla Con Clave, CC BY-SA 4.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Blue Stilton by Coyau, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Daniel Defoe by unknown painter (public domain)
William Stukeley by Richard Collins (public domain)
Stilton Village sign on North Street by Geographer, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons
Stilton cheese (Pixabay)
Stichelton cheese: Jeremy Keith from Brighton & Hove, United Kingdom, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons and Stephanie Watson from Brighton, England, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
00:00 You can’t make Stilton in Stilton
01:14 Why is Stilton named after Stilton?
02:44 What is Stilton’s origin story?
04:24 Was Stilton cheese ever made in Stilton?
07:38 Why did they stop making Stilton in Stilton?
10:32 How has Stilton changed?
14:45 Does anyone make “illegal” Stilton?
17:25 Thanks for watching
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Absolutely loved this one.❤ definitely not upset that we get an extra long one. I get the algorithms and people's attention span don't normally like them. But I think the people who follow you would watch almost any length video you put out! Thank you for your hard work and dedication!!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it
Fascinating. They really should have kept the cheese making local. I mean hindsight is 20/20 and its not like they could have predicted the coming of rail, but still.
I know. It would be so cool if they were still making it in Stilton
@@cheesehistory I am honestly not sure how I feel about the "This thing can only be made in this very specific geographical location type of thing". I mean even artist works eventually make it to the public domain. It feels like putting a copyright on human culture itself and so many food stuffs and other things have spread far and wide to the greater enrichment of everyone. I mean I think this kind of thing only exists in the EU where they can enforce it across a large swathe of countries. I am in Australia and we have lots of stuff made locally and called by whatever style its in without people jumping up and down and trying to sue. Colour me conflicted on this one. I get why certain regions may want this kind of thing in place, but I think restricted it lessens human culture as a whole.
Great video with lots of interesting information. I thoroughly enjoyed the longer length of it to get all the facts in. Stilton cheese is very yummy and should be made in the town that bears it's name. 😊🧀🥰😋💝
Another great video, thanks!
I do think that the town of Stilton should be a member of the Stilton making club, but if not, I'm sure they'll find a creative way of making a cheese that we know comes from Stilton.
I hope so too
I'm so happy to have come across your mozzarella cheese video. It's 1:20 a.m., and im binging your videos. Thank you for all your research and content!
One of my favourite cheeses!
Thanks, Julia, great video. I learnt heaps!
Thanks Gavin
Should they let cheesemakers in Stilton make Stilton cheese again? Let me know what you think.
But it would NOT be Stilton - which is ironic. BTW a reasonable day's journey in the 17th century on horseback would be about 35 miles depending on the state of the road so Stilton is about two days out - probably three by coach in winter. Incidentally I think you may have omitted Webster's dairy in Saxelbye (although they may have closed).
Thanks for pointing that out.
Webster's dairy closed in 2020 and are no longer lister as a producer on the SCMA website, which is a shame.
@@cheesehistory Yes, it was I my opinion a very fine Stilton - a little saltier than Colston Bassett and with better texture than Cropwell Bishop. I liked the Quenby - it is a pity that one went too.
Julier is a weird name. Don't think I've ever heard anyone add an "R" to the name Julie. But, hey, that makes you unique.
Silton definitely should be allowed to make Stilton. I don't even know how a geographic protection can exclude the geographic location in the name. In fact the Virgina Wool case (USA) specifically ruled that you couldn't.
Which is why you can buy "Brie" and "Parmesan" in the US that taste of mud.
Yeah, that's because America ignores Geographic indicators from outside USA. E.g. "Champagne" in a can.
Separate issue to whether or not Geographic Indicator rights can be withheld from the geographic location of the indicator. Legally that outcome seems contra indicated.
How did the recommendations know I'm fascinated by cheese.? I see you have quite a few videos for me to view.
And Corinthian raisins (currants) weren't grown in Corinth, they were exported from there.
So, Stilton cheese has to be renamed as it is not from Stilton any longer, Stilton name must be for cheese from Stilton. The not from Stilton cheese needs to be call "Not from Stilton as I'm from another place" cheese.
Melton Mobrey is famous these days for their pork pies
Could it be possible, that Stilton used to be in Nottinghamshire? , as the borders often change slightly throughout the history of Britain.
Stilton used to be in Huntingdonshire, so it has changed county before. As I understand it, the borders of Nottinghamshire haven't changed much throughout its history.
Cool video
My family made Stilton here in New Zealand from the 1880s
That's cool. Did they make it commercially?
@@cheesehistory yes in Southland. Ended shutting down around ww2
There's a cheese called Shropshire blue.. which was first made in Scotland, nowhere near Shropshire in England!! That could be a video for you to research perhaps?
Oh, that sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip. I will look into it.
There is a Stilton link here too .
I wonder if the powers that be would accept raw milk if the cheese was boiled in the wye as the 1700 research revealed.
Great idea. I doubt it would get past them though.
Is Stilton readily available in New Zealand?
It's possible to buy Stilton in NZ. It's even in some of the supermarkets. We don't make it at all so there is no generic/fake Stilton. Blue cheeses seem to be one type that we just make our own versions rather than using famous names.
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So if you make genuine Stilton you can't call it Stilton, especially if you make it in Stilton! I wonder who the cheese makers who are allowed to make fake Stilton and label it Stilton bribed to make that idiocy happen!