What's WRONG with us? Romans 5:6-21
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2017
- Anthropology is a theological study of man. We will take a real look at a biblical anthropology and see that humans are rather complex, having been made in the image of God yet being sinfully fallen creatures. Having a biblical view of man helps us make sense of the world around us, the battle within us and the love of God for us.
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I like how you said WE ARE BARABBAS!! That makes us self analyze ourselves. Jesus took our place!! So much love!
True. Very much true. I also paused and thought a bit there.
@@utuberme1 funny I just paused it too to comment. Mike has an amazing teaching style the can entertain and convict at the same time. Never in my life have I compared myself to Barabbas, that he in the movie like Mike said was “yucky”. I’d make him to be sin completely. He is what sin looks like standing next to God. So very profound.
Never thought of the Barabas parallel before. Wow! What a beautiful and humbling perspective.
I pray I can find a pastor like him. Amen
what part of the country are you?
Thank you so much for your clarity, sincerity and strict adherence to God’s word in scripture. You help me so much! I believe the Holy Trinity are going to give you a definite “Well done, my son” when the time comes. You deserve it!
I am doing a Precept study of the Book of Romans. I am using your teaching as supplemental study each week. These videos are such a blessing! Thanks so much for sharing!
Currently on a study of Romans and going through video by video with you. Thank you!
This video didn’t have an impact on my salvation, but it certainly eased all of my suffering because of wrong theology and world views. I’ve been struggling so much to accept salvation because I’m 100% NOT worthy and it tortures me. Thank you for addressing these tough topics that people have so much trouble answering.
23:03. Rejoicing in God is not rejoicing in what God has done for me, but in rejoicing for who God is...comfort and encouragement...
Phil 4:4. Rejoice in the LORD always....
You're amazing pastor Mike.I thank God!
Humans were good at one time. Than we became broken. Anything that is good in humans is God's doing, for he made us. God does see the good in us. He sees Himself in us. He loves His creation. Proud of His handwork rightfully so. A proud Father watching is children grow.
A small group of us are doing a study of Romans and using your videos as supplementary material. Your teaching has blessed us so much. Thank you.
Can't thank u enough mike- way to refreshing to hear faithful , bold and no holds bar preaching - as opposed to wishi- washi preaching in many modern church- praise our Lord
Hymn by Chris Anderson: His robes for mine, oh wonderful exchange! Clothed in my sin, Christ suffered "neath God's rage. Draped in His righteousness, I'm justified. In Christ I live, for in my place He died. I LOVE this hymn because it tells of my salvation by Jesus!
I love how you present the word with such JOY!
Thank you. We're not like our enemies or else they wouldn't be our enemies. We was, but now we're no longer sinners, we're now Saints declared righteous in need of our Savior daily to overcome sin struggles. Trust Christ and His gift of faith. Our identity is Saint not sinner glory to King Jesus.
Hebrews 11:6 💝
Romans 5:16 👑
Matthew 6:33 🙏
God is awesome good...Mike Winger, 'I heart the message' Glory to God.
Thank you brother !
Nehemiah 8:10
"Then he said to them, “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the LORD is your strength.”
Thanks Pastor Mike
Wonderful exposition. Thank you so much for this
I love 20:16 we see theology impacting our hearts thru our head. Changing our security thru Gods Grace.
I don’t think everything every human being does outside Gods Grace Is bad....
This is great, I used to think that what was wronge with humans was sin and the falling, followed by the ignorance of god. But, nowadays I can say with certanty that what is wronge with humans is the ignorance and abandonment of oneself, the lack of love and acceptance of what we are and who we are as individuals and a group. This crazy behaviur leads us to be inmature and dependant, ever searching for a solution and answer that never comes, until we search in ourselves with love and sincerity.
Great teaching Mike..🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Amen bro keep it up
Thank you!
Plz keep up this important work
14:13 Mike quotes Ecclesiastes 7:20 which in James Moffatts translation says “ For there is not a single good man upon earth whose good deeds are without som3 sinful lapse.”
In NRSV ...”Surely there is no one on earth so righteous as to do good without ever sinning “
Thanks for the study
Thank you.
Great sermon! Makes me want to sing the hymn “Since I Have Been Redeemed”!
I love your amazing series on Homosexuality, when can you do one on Transgenderism?
+Justin Villada The OutDoor Son I'm not sure if I will do one but it's worth doing in a culture where we seem to be ignoring truth to the pain of all involved.
You did good, Mike, up to about verse 14. If I could offer my commentary. In verse 15 Adam thrust the many/all people into death without their permission. 😔 In the same way God’s grace super abounded to the same many/all people without their permission.😃 Remember God‘s grace is not impotent Titus 2:11-12. This proves the receiving in verse 17 is passive in the sense that God brings it about in the many/all people just like the first sin brought about death in the many/all people and then verse 18,19,20 just mean what they say. Much love, bless you and your ministry.
god bless you brother keep up your walk.Do you believe that the God of Jesus loves you beyond worthiness and unworthiness, beyond fidelity and infidelity-that he loves you in the morning sun and in the evening rain-that he loves you when your intellect denies it, your emotions refuse it, your whole being rejects it. Do you believe that God loves without condition or reservation and loves you this moment as you are and not as you should be,because none of us are as we should be.
hey mike you've tought me a lot throught your videos specially this series you are doing i absolutely love it, one question doe can you do a video on jealousy? im in a long distance relationship both me and my GF are christians but me specifically have a tendency to be very over portective and jealous, i would really appreciate some advice or at least give me some passages on the bible to guide me and help me. thanks in advance God bless.
What is your concept of love for her? Many of us love based on our view of how we should love or want to love. And that builds an expectation for many because it is unconsciously a sense of exchange. I love you this way and somehow, you should love me the same way? And failure to reach that sense of expectation and anticipation, I become jealous of perhaps who or what else is taking your attention from me. Loving another is about that person. That one love another totally and will be happy as long as that person is happy. First. This approach took me much time to understand. Just like how God loves us even though we are ungodly and sinners. He FIRST loved us when we do not even deserve Him. Same thing. But we will never get close to God’s level of love for us though we are to love one another as He has loved us.
REf: Romans 5
Anthropology I thought you were going to start talking about the chord progressions in the piece by Charlie Parker, which also called Anthropology
My cup has no bottom, and no matter how much I try to fill it out falls through the bottom. But Jesus can fill that cup
Have not been able to find "I’ve been redeemed Washed and clean I’ve been redeemed" anywhere on youtube.
"The law was added so that the trespass might increase." Rom. 5:20 What is that law and what is the trespass Paul has referenced?, relative to Heb. 7:12, "there is made of necessity a CHANGE also of the law."
Lay up your treasures in heaven, We know we are saved when it changes us rebirth. He saved Unto good works. Living it shows your salvation
[Eze 18:19-22 NKJV] "“Yet you say, ‘Why should the son not bear the guilt of the father?’ Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. “But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. “None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live."
I don't think that the Eastern Orthodox dogmatically hold to the understanding of sin and Christ's Atonement that you stated. That may be a strand, but certainly not what I've encountered when talking to my Eastern Orthodox friends.
Mike this is amazing. Helped me a lot. Thank you.
Who is the singer/artist during the ending credits of these videos?
It’s an old worship album I recorded with friends. mikewinger.bandcamp.com/album/we-will-praise
Another cup analogy, it isn't about full or half full, our cups are filled with holes. We cannot even be useful unless the spirit works to sanctify us, to reshape the mangled cup into a useful vessel.
I thought you were talking about this hymn:
Trusting in Jesus, my Saviour divine,
I have the witness that still he is mine;
Great are the blessings he giveth to me:
Oh, I am happy as mortal can be.
Refrain:
I am redeemed, and I know it full well,
Saved by his grace, I with him shall dwell;
I am redeemed, and the child of his love,
Heir to a glorious crown above.
One I was far from my Saviour and King,
Now he has taught me his mercy to sing;
Peace in believing he giveth to me:
Oh, I am happy as mortal can be. [Refrain]
Trusting in Jesus, oh, what should I fear?
Nothing can harm me when he is so near!
Sweet is the promise he giveth to me:
Oh, I am happy as mortal can be. [Refrain]
If while a stranger I journey below
Filled with his fulness such rapture I know,
What will the bliss of eternity be,
When in his beauty the King I shall see? [Refrain]
D E E P !!!!!!!!🙏🏾🙌🏽🙏🏾
To clarify the muddy Mormon doctrine-
"For we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do." (2 Nephi 25:23 from the Book of Mormon)
I never experienced a genuine, gut wretching, at loss for words, hands in the air, crying praises to His name kind of gratitude for Jesus' sacrifice until I left Mormonism.
Mormons believe that EVERYONE, except those who deny the Holy Spirit, are (after a period of purgatory called "spirit prison") sent to a Kingdom of Heaven so great that you would allegedly kill yourself to get there. Yes, even serial killers. Yes, even child rapists. So if you're wondering why Mormons sometimes struggle to understand the need for the Sacrifice, that's why. 😕
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I like Psalm 37 ( number of comments ). It has the 22 Hebrew letters. Alpha...etc
Hey mike, on your take of death reigning by the law written on our hearts… wouldn’t it be the case that death would become active only until there was an acknowledgment of morals attributed to it? … curious about that
It seems to me that death reigns because of man’s nature, since people like babies who are incapable to observe any law are still subject to death… did I not understand correctly?
The death of the body usually precedes but is not the same as the death of the soul (i.e. complete and total annihilation) . We tend to confuse both but they can’t be more different since the death of the body is rectifiable but the death of the soul is final…
Where does it say that we inherited Adam’s sin nature? I’m trying to figure this out. Does the Bible state this or is it just assumed because he sinned and death entered the world and we have sin and death throughout human history that it is all on Adam? Thanks Mike
If you read Romans 5:11-21, the bible does discuss it
I personally do not hold to the doctrine that we inherit a sinful nature. We sin for the same reason Eve sinned in Genesis 3:6; freewill, temptation, the Lust of the Flesh, the Lust of the Eyes and the Pride of Life. As James describes in James 1:14-15, we sin because we are tempted and give in to lust. Same thing happened with Eve in Genesis 3:6.
_When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate_
Here you have the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life right there in a pre-fall\pre-rebellion world, before there could have even been a such thing as a sin nature.
The Bible never says we inherit a sinful nature. It doesn't use anywhere the phrase sin nature, or hamartia and phusis together, not anywhere; yet it's a very popular phrase and doctrine in mainstream Christianity today. Lust's are strong desires of the flesh. Desire for food, drink, sex, are not evil desires but are natural and God given. The question is; How do we chose to satisfy these desires? Do we make idols out of them? Are we disobedient to God in how we satisfy those desires?
Romans 7 is not describing the normal Christian life. It's describing someone trying to be righteous by keeping law, but being unable to do so (Saul the Pharisee). Chapter 6 tells us that our old man has been crucified, and we can walk in newness of life. We are to know this, and from now on we should not serve sin. We are dead to sin. We are to reckon this, log it down, stop yielding to sin, and yield to God. If we Christian's make up our minds we want to live for God, then He gives us the power to live it out. We aren't perfect, but Romans 7 is living in bondage, Romans 8 is living in victory. Bottom line is we all need God, Adam and Eve did, and so do we. None of us can make it without Him.
May God truly Bless you.
You are defining a sinner in ways it is not meant.
Recently heard that we weren't made in God's image. Adam was made in the image of God. We were made in the image of (sinful) Adam.
I’am I saved ? Or being saved ?
Is this communication motivated by the JESUS type of LOVE for people?
What does Mathew 7: 21 Mean?
Het James have you got the answer to your question yet?
It means that they believed that they were entitled to salvation because of their works. Even though they performed great signs and miracles, they missed the point of having faith apart from works. Their hearts had the wrong motives: their own glory rather than the glory of God. One issue I had with this in relation to trying to believe "once saved always saved" is that they seemed to have the Holy Spirit (our seal for salvation) but obviously were not saved. The answer I found was imagining that though their personal motives weren't for the glory of God, that doesn't mean the Holy Spirit didn't through them to bring others to Christ. So though they were not saved themselves, through them, others could've been saved because of the signs and miracles they performed. I myself doubted my salvation because of not understanding this verse. The point is, don't feel any work you perform will merit you salvation. The only path to salvation is through the one work of Jesus Christ. Somebody please correct me if I seem wrong about any of this but I hope this is a blessing to anyone wondering what this verse means.
That was Ecclesiastes 7:20
Did he say Paul wrote 1 John?
🤣 no... I loved it up as I read your comment before the sermon
salvation...past, present, and future....it sounds like a play on words....ergo....salvation, sanctification, and glorification....this is where the frustrating part comes in....er….lets get a language that actually means something...so we don't have to have endless discussions, on theology....
Pastor Mike my understanding is that Gods law is written upon all of mankind's heart after Pentecost, God loved us so much that salvation is available to all because Jesus died and shed his blood on the cross for everyone unequivocally regardless of race nation creed color or sin universally.(until one chooses to refuse the gift of salvation)
I understand its nothing that we do that gets us into heaven, it is what God has done that gets us into heaven.
I get that Mike understand and believe that, however, God made us in his likeness in his Image and it was pleasing to God that mankind was Gods ultimate crowning of creation, his very own children. if we are that crowning of creation, his children, then how can God hate his greatest creation completely? (I do not think I could ever hate my children, hate them so completely where I would turn my back on them, let alone create a Hell for them to suffer in for eternity) it is a very hard thing to ponder that sort of hatred, that could God hate us that much... I personally have a hard time pondering that pastor Mike.
Now I could see that Mankind might choose to be separated from God like where a child hates their Parents so much they turn away in their hard hardheartedness foolishness pridefullness, and yet God loving us so much still, that he created a way home by dying and shedding his blood for our sins, like the story of the prodigal child where the father always is awaiting for his child to return home and we mankind are those wayward children, that seems understandable to me, but I do not see the father hating his children and sending them off to hell.
or does mankind choose hell for himself in his rebellion by refusing Jesus gift his blood shed on the cross for the forgiveness of sins?
its really hard to believe that im a POS in the eyes of God, its hard to ponder that, being hated that much by God yet being loved by God... We are taught to Love the sinner and to hate the sin, so likewise God loves us but hates our sin?... this hurts my brain to think and ponder at this level... and definitely causes some low self esteem issues in me.
God obviously loves us enough to die on the cross for us, imperfect, and sinful... is there nothing in that? nothing special knowing that God loves us HIS creation enough to die for us that mankind is special enough to deserve Gods love- feeling special like when a child gloats over his parents love, acceptance and approval. it is a great feeling to feel that love.
thank you for sharing your wisdom us even though it makes my head heart.
Pastor Mike feel free to correct my thinking and understanding I welcome it greatly.
God bless you.
Christ died for the ungodly.
Babies are innocent.
Christ did not die for the sinless child. They never left the Father’s hand.
It's not antitype it's antetype... with ante meaning "before" like as in antebellum
+beanny007 You're right that antetype is a word which means "an earlier type". However, in the biblical (and theological) usage the word is "antitype" and has a different meaning and spelling than "antetype". I appreciate correction whenever it comes and encourage you to let me know if I need it but I think I got it right this time.
Mike Winger Really?.. I thought it was the other way around for some reason but thanks for replying back to me. I appreciate your work.
Ok... Confirmed you are a hundred percent correct. I think I understand why it was stuck in my head that way. I was thinking antetype because Christ has no opposite since he's infinite. However, Christ in the flesh CAN have an opposite which would be Adam. He's our representative without Christ. Thanks for clarifying that!
+beanny007 it's an easy thing to get mixed up. It's also helpful to know that "anti" doesn't have to mean "opposite" in the context of an antitype. It can also mean "corresponding to".
Bar Abbas, "Son of the Father". Augustus Caesar Pontifex Maximus "Filus Deus", "Son of God". The Bible, full of parallelisms, is a work of divine genius.
Read René Girard
Idk man I'm tired.
Trinity? .....really?
I wonder, if humanity comes from Adam and Eve, theres blood relation there, so if thats true we all are from a consanguineous beginning, therefore we all have "issues"
There are several theories that are compatible with Bible and evolution/genetics that avoid this conclusion, dating back centuries. For a modern take, see S. Joshua Swamidass, Kenneth Kemp and Jon Garvey's work.
@@Louis.R so humans arent from children of Adam and Eve?
@@Glamorista you've completely misunderstood me. All humans today are Adamites. However, it is plausible that Adam was created de novo vis-a-vis his having special or theological, spiritual qualities from God (e.g. the image of God, free will, perfect grace) using existing anthropoid "material", which is to say, out of his (and our) genetic ancestors, which is to say, Adam's biological parents, cousins and even - yes - future daughters-in-law, as his progeny intermix and ultimately dominate the earth, making him (and Eve, endowed with the same special gifts) a universal genealogical ancestor. These anthropoids are human biologically, but not fully human in the sense that the Bible is trying to reveal to us, which is part of our problem of blindness about this, connected to the Fall. This is also a theory consistent with evolution that works from the metaphyisical or divine power first, with nature following.
Have a nice day.
@@Louis.R "created de novo vis à vis" what does it mean??
@@Glamorista created "as new", insofar as Adam has radically unique intellectual/spiritual characteristics that the anthropoids, from whom his physical material and basic functionality derives, do not. So although the anthropoids may look exactly like Adam, have the same genes as Adam and can, and probably did, mate with Adam's descendents (that's another debate, the Nephilim/sons of God of Genesis 6), Adam is nevertheless a new creature, a new idea, a new form, a new soul. This is my Aristotlean/Thomist argument for how all evolution works, reversing Darwin's theory of natural accidents - the "accidents" or changes of matter follow the new forms, which first exist immaterially, i.e. in the mind of God.
Put your trust in Jesus and his judgment. Not your own thoughts on how you think something is.
not sure how we are related to Adam or Eve- i was taught they died in a flood and all life
perished- and a good question no one can answer that i have-would it not take longer then 40 days, the duration of the flood for the animals to swim across huge oceans to get to the Ark- seem's logical too me they would have a better chance at survival just swimming for the duration of the flood
Mike, Noah and his offspring were spared in the flood, whose genealogy is traced back to Adam & Eve. Thus, sin was carried by those spared (Noah, his offspring & their wives) onto each following generation. I can’t speak on the 40 days, unfortunately, but I hope my reply helps a bit.
Chapter 5 seems to clearly state that we have no godliness in us before Christ. That we are totally depraved (ungodly, wicked, unrighteous, evil, sinner) and if not for Christ, we would remain dead in our sin. Sounds like total depravity from Calvinism.
Having your eyes opened to your own wretchedness…. Well frankly sucks..
Free will is not scriptural, it the church’s escape goat to justify there heresy of original sin 😮😮😮
Owen Hawthorne 🤔 we don’t have free will. If your born condemned, is it free-will to chose God or burn in hell forever. Coherent under duress is not free will.
Owen Hawthorne 🤔 too long has free will been the escape goat 😞
@@Jleesdollies 🤔 no sir. Judas did not have free-will.
I’m hard enough on myself, I don’t need Mike to beat me up too. I was looking for something helpful today, but only found more bashing of my sin nature. I get it, I suck, let’s move on Mike
Was that all he said?
Or was that all you heard?
Original sin isn't biblical/ true.
The thing is God made us rebellious so while Adam and Eve are to blame for rebelling how could you not also blame God for making them/us this way?
What passage from genesis says that?
Rom 5:18. He is wrong about that. How can Jesus be called the new or other adam if He did not have atleast the same effect. Through adam we are all sinners (just like his parabel about parents moving away from one place to another) it was not a choice. Therefore through Jesus we are all saved, it is not a choice. If I payed your debts, it is payed and it does not matter if you accept it or not it is already been payed for.
Now all the other versions about punishment is about correcting your thought process. God punishes so that He can correct you.
Picture this: if you are owned by a master called death or satan you do as your master tells you to do. Then another master comes along His name is life or Jesus. He pays for you so that you will belong to Him (so you are saved) now you belong to Jesus but your mind is still doing things you've been thought by death/satan. Jesus says you are still a child of satan (in your mind) and I'll have to correct you for it. Now that correcting part is the punishment you find in the bible.
As like all analogy this does not cover every aspect of the bible I just want to trigger people to read the bible carefully.
Yes. Read the Bible carefully. I’m a baby Christian. I’m reading the baby. And will re-read it over and over again! Praise God!
@@nancycali4644 for some reason youtube deleted my comment towards you. But I offered my help to you if you are interested. To help you read scripture, not to make you believe what I believe, to make you investigate for yourself and come to biblical conclusions. Let me know what you think of that. Praise God indeed.
@@O_tropos thank u. Are u a pastor?
I appreciate your kindness brother. I have to be honest. My husband wouldn’t like it. Thank u anyway :).
This is my Bible study. I read the word then do my research and listen to a few pastors to see how they break things down. I have seen they all have the same message but deliver it in their own different way.
I do have a question. As a believer. Do u think we all have to, it’s a must to attend church? Is it in scripture? I’ve only been saved a 5-6 months. Still learning. Thank u brother
@@nancycali4644 No I'm not a pastor. I have been studying for about 20 years.
I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect to you or your husband. But if it is okay with you or your husband you can always ask your questions on youtube and I'll answer.
That is an excellent way of bible study, I do the same thing. However I have to say, stay critical on what anyone says, always go back to the bible and see if what the pastors or anyone says, is correct or align with the bible.
No it is not a must to go to church. If you read john 4:19-24 you might get a better understanding. God is a spirit we need to worship Him in spirit. The place or building does not matter.
God bless you sister, keep it up. If you have any more questions you can always ask.
If you dont mind me asking, is your husband a believer of Christ?
@@O_tropos no worries brother u didn’t disrespect us. I just don’t want to disrespect my husband. Talking about I will read John next, after I’m done with Romans. My Husband got saved a month or 2 after i did. My prayers worked!!! God truly has answered my prayers, my husband has changed so much. Someone did witchcraft on us and we almost divorced. I also get a lot of demonic dreams and Godly dreams(Will get deliverance soon)I’ve asked God what is that my husband and I have to remove from our life. He gave me a visions of my Tv and his PlayStation. Then weeks later had a dream of 2 cell phones mine and his and all I said were sins.
I talked to my husband. We canceled the Cable and made changes. We were idolizing these things. Always on our phones and his PlayStation games were demonic.
Have u gotten deliverance? I’m in my 30’s I wish I would’ve been saved in my 20’s. If u don’t mind me asking Are u married? It’s a beautiful thing to be in a Godly marriage. God is beyond Good!