Joel Klatt and Daniel Jeremiah discuss the quarterback heavy 2024 NFL Draft | Joel Klatt Show
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- Joel Klatt and Daniel Jeremiah discussed how quarterback heavy the 2024 NFL Draft is. They broke down how Michigan Wolverines QB J.J. McCarthy rose up the NFL Draft boards. Joel and Daniel also discuss if UNC Tar Heels QB Drake Maye should be the second quarterback taken off the board in the draft. They also debated how teams are evaluating Washington Huskies QB Michael Penix Jr.
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Joel Klatt and Daniel Jeremiah discuss the quarterback heavy 2024 NFL Draft | Joel Klatt Show
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What teams do you think will draft quarterbacks in the first round?
Steelers, godwilling
GREAT TALENT NEVER OVERCOMES TERRIBLE COACHING IN THE NFL
MN Vikings for sure…….Jayden Daniels or JJ McCarthy.
Minnesota, Washington, Pats, and Vikings. Could also see Nix and Penix going in the first round. Leaving out the Bears because everyone knows who they're taking already. They haven't been trying to hide it lol.
Bears -Williams
Commanders - Daniels
Vikings- Maye
Patriots- McCarthy
Seahawks- Penix
Raiders trade back into the end of 1st select Nix
there is so much smokescreens during this time, and we know most of the time, we'll be fortunate if one of these QBs becomes great, maybe another one is good, the rest end up backups or out of the league
And then, sometimes you have six quarterbacks selected in the first round, all of them with pretty decent pro careers and three gold jackets. Just saying that you’re gonna get five QBs in the top 16 picks and maybe six in the first round. I’d bet all but the Patriots QB do well.
I think that’s spot on. Do we have a Eli-Philip River- Big Ben year or Trever Lawrence- Zack Wilson -Trey Lance year. I wonder what the history over twenty years is. I think 3 QBs hitting in a year is rare.
The media overhype qb's and teams overdraft them every year. This year is no different.
There’s also years similar to burrow Tua and Herbert. It could be anything. But there’s reason for more optimism with this class
@@user-zk3tg1ws4qit’s the most valuable position. That’s why they get “overdrafted” not the media. GM’s don’t care about the media lmao
Every single draft includes one of these guys. JJ about to be the next Z Wilson.
no i think it is maye...he is the most inconsistent out of the top what 6 or 7 qbs...for every wow throw he makes there is a clip of him moving into pressure for a sack or throwing it into the dirt on a 5 yard pass.
If Penix didn't have the injury/surgery history, he'd be my #1.
lol he is still my #1, I just wouldnt pick him there...i would trade back and get him later...
Sometimes the intangibles can tell you a lot more than production. You always hear JJ talking about whatever he can do for the team to win ball games. That's what he cares about. Fantastic leader, always working on his game, which was evident at his pro day. Near perfect footwork. Sick of people bringing up the Penn State game. He was injured and played through it. Did they win that game? Yes. That's what matters to him. 34-2 in high school with 2 championships. 27-1 at Michigan with a National Championship. Better in every critical situation than Drake Maye. Against the blitz, YPA, explosive play rate, 3rd downs, etc. Do your research. Not saying he's going to be better than any other QB, just saying there are many reasons teams are loving him so much.
I've watched every play. JJ is the real deal. He can throw on the run. He can run. He can lead. He will transition and his team will love him.
You're correct, he can do all of the things on your list. Unfortunately he can't manipulate defenders. He only knows how to overwhelm [college] DB's with "fast" play. He has much to learn b/c NFL defenders will eat him alive.
25 years ago, a tall skinny QB came out of Michigan and was drafted by the New England Patriots. The rest was history.
@@user-kq6df2xg7n A great coach can help that along since that’s more prevalent in the NFL than it is in college football.
@@blacklabelholsters1635 Theoretically possible, but as the interceptions pile up (while he's learning) questions will be asked about HOW he was ever a top 5 or even 10 pick!!!???
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't know what camera Joel uses, but the image is so good.
I think that’s spot on. Do we have a Eli-Philip River- Big Ben year or Trever Lawrence- Zack Wilson -Trey Lance year. I wonder what the history over twenty years is. I think 3 QBs hitting in a year is rare, let alone 5.
You’re right, history suggests 2 of the 6 QBs will be hits.
my 2 fave in the business
Mel Kiper > Klatt and anybody else
@@supaflyenuka I watch Mel too but il stick to my opinion. I will give you this older Mel is better than younger Mel.
I like both of these guys and seeing them chat together about their opinions is great. Mel has become (or has always been) the guy that everyone loves to hate. Lots of shall I say, new or younger fans, don't realize the guy was putting together top scouting reports way before you could just dial up tape on the internet. I like to remind people every year that although Mel gets picks wrong (so does every scout or analyst) he does put together his own list of top players, something that I guarantee not a single RUclips critic could do on their own. For me, I find Mel entertaining, his job is not to prognosticate with100% accuracy, his job is to entertain us, get us excited about the draft. He has such conviction and self assurance in his picks, and it's that fact why he gets so much hate.
Great episode. Thank you.
Great job Joel.
humility. ya gotta love it. 13:50
There was another Michigan QB who was undervalued and now he’s the GOAT.
I feel like this QB class is going to be what the 2021 class was supposed to be
Realistically, for the teams needing a quarterback, 0 to 2 teams will get their elite or close to elite guy. 1 to 2 teams will get a competent guy who gives them a chance. And everyone else will be fired within the next three years.
Bears(1), Commanders(2), Patriots(3), Vikings(5), Raiders (10), Rams (19).
That's all the 1st round QB draft positions and teams.
Williams, Daniells, Maye, McCarthy, Penix Jr and Nix.
There you go.
I love and respect Joe Klatt. He fair and balanced when talking about college players. He doesn’t just get stuck regurgitating the same narrative the other people who talk college football. But Daniel Jeremiah I don’t understand this dudes thinking. If you have seen his mock draft it just doesn’t make sense. I think it would take way more that Minnesota is willing to give up to budge Arizona off that 4th pick. Why? They don’t need the draft capital. It’s kind of like what we saw with Seattle over the past two seasons. They weren’t trading down because they didn’t need to they had the draft capital. Arizona has 5 picks in the first 2 days. They will and should take the best player on the board which happens to be a position they need and that is WR Marvin Harrison Jr. Look Nabers and Odunze are going to be solid pros but MHJ is generational. I hope he is right and they do trade the pick as a Seahawks fan I don’t want to see Arizona land MHJ. But unfortunately I don’t see this as a possibility. Then to see the chargers also pass up on MHJ and trade the pick to the Jets makes me believe either DJ is a Jets fan or he needs to be drug tested immediately.
I am thinking a trade will be done by Patriots or Chargers with the Vikings. If Patriots think they can get McCarthy at 11 they will do the trade. Then the Patriots will also have a chance to add a legit WR1 with their second 1st rd pick.
Also I believe the Bears and the Jets trade down. Bears will need a lot more draft picks. I won’t be surprised if the Bengals swap picks with the Jets but the Jets may throw in a future 2 or 3 and the Bengals add Higgins on top of their pick 18. Jets are all in this year they need proven weapons for Rodgers. Bengals will draft Odunze at 10 and the Jets will draft UW OL Troy Fautanu at 18 where he will start out at G and maybe in a year or two could slide over to T.
If Seattle truly wants a QB it’s one guy and one guy only and that is Michael Penix. But they need to hop the Raiders to get this guy. The Denver Broncos are in some financial trouble after letting Wilson go. Plus they need draft capital. So Denver is an obvious team wanting to trade out of 12. I think Den makes a trade with Seattle. I believe Seattle got Howell as a trade commodity. Denver was one of the teams trying to trade for Howell as well. I believe Seattle will send Howell plus their pick and maybe the Seahawks later 4th. Howell has 2 years left on his deal making less than a million per year. He’s a proven starter who can take a beating and was having a pretty good first season starting until the team just gave up. By getting Howell they have a cheap QB and can use the next couple of years to clear all that dead money from Wilsons contract. I also think Denver will trade the pick they got from Seattle a couple more times and Denver doesn’t make their pick until the early part of 2nd round. Seattle will get QB Penix. Penix has been working out with Geno Smith and Smith has indicated he is cool with Seattle drafting a young QB. Not to mention his OC from college is now the OC for the Seahawks. If you made it this far I thank you for taking the time.
Hope this draft class is like 2020. Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love and Hurts.
The funniest part is all of the fans/media complaining about JJ only watched the last few games of 2023 when JJ was playing hurt.
They don’t realize his advanced stats are elite and top 1-2 in this class, and he was the offense for the last 3 games of 2022 and first 7 games of 2023.
At the end of the day his counting stats aren’t as high because he played in a much less QB friendly offense and would sit by the 3rd quarters in games because of blowouts.
Look at his cut ups, and look at his advanced stats and it’s obvious he belongs among the top 3
I’m 🙏🏽 the Raiders draft Penix!
Penix is an ambulatory pick. He’ll be in the hospital tent the whole time.
I hope so too. Im a broncos fan and Penix wont stay healthy
Penix definitely fits the Raider tradition of wrong-handed QBs. Let’s hope he’s more Stabler and less Marinovich. 🤔
I would take Bo nix over him
@@richardeinheuser5529
He has played every game the last two seasons. Maybe you should try and think for yourself.
It's more fun not knowing who Washington wants. I enjoy seeing chaos when teams finally get on the clock. I love seeing mysteries and possible trades. This isn't like the Jets trading up a few years back when they didn't know what QB they'd get. Denver, Minnesota, New England seem to want ONE certain guy.
Do you think JJ is good enough to go in the top fourth because Marvin Harrison is saying that on Twitter you sign to sot draft
whatever draft pick KAM takes for the vikes will be the wrong one. That we know so far. Addison was a KOC pick
Everyone is a qb expert, because it's the easiest to evaluate. td:int and comp %
As long as New England has no idea who Washington prefers, there is an incentive to trade up one spot
Well that would go against what Mayo said today about acquiring more picks.
Washington is going to draft Jayden. He is exactly the type of qb that their new OC wants
QB's have always been important, but the way the game is played now has led to the insane desire to take one high, ignoring whether he's worth one of the top picks. Just because guys are coming out and you think you need a QB, doesn't mean you have to take one of them. Also, it would be nice if analysts lost their jobs for bad opinions like coaches and GM's do for bad picks.
Drake May is a good player but I've watched a lot of his games and to me he's not a number to pick overall first round. If teams could just get past the injury history thing and just take it for what it is, Michael Penix is a far superior player. I don't remember Drake May being up for the Heisman? Even so what are we really talking about? Is it just injuries? If so then put that aside. I'm just glad people like Drake May because hopefully Michael Penix will drop to the Seahawks. 🔥🤘👑🦁
You should be a draft analyst.
Seahawks aren’t taking a qb after trading for Howell
@@mustardtiger6062 I'm sure you're correct.
Drake Maye is different because he has size that cannot be coached. How long is it going to take to refine his skills?
I'd take penix. He made washington a contender, he's the ultimate difference maker. Had he played for michigan they'd won every game by a landslide. Yes he's struggled in the championship game but he was injured and Michigan played the pass all game long.
Penix doesn’t call the plays. He wouldn’t have done anything different. Penix will always be an injury waiting to happen.
Penix is a talent...but he's injury prone. Look at his body type.
Same with Jaden Daniels.
@@chrismiller1183Daniels is not injury prone. He is uncannily tough from the stupid hits he takes.
Penix is the best passer in this draft. All this love for these running qb's is crazy!!! Nfl is not college the players are bigger and faster. All rookies comment on how the speed of the game hits them in the NFl. Give me the passer over the runner anyday
Tell me you don't know Michigan's offense without telling me you don't know Michigan's offense
The fact is that the miss rate on QBs is ridiculously bad. No one really knows who is going to be good. The safe bet is believing that most of these kids are misses. Daniels has the most potential imo. I’m guessing the others will underperform.
Maye seems to be the one to possible drop.
i could see Penix have the career that Sam Bradford had
Sometimes I’m convinced these guys aren’t professionals. you’re telling me if the patriots trade out they won’t be a top 10 pick again next year, and I promise you 2 to 3 other quarterbacks will show up like JJ and Bo that everyone says are really good , it happens every year there’s only gonna be one quarterback this year lo and behold there’s six now
I hope the bears enjoy their new princess in a dress 👗 😂😂😂😂
Lol. You are right. Caleb is a diva and soft as Charmin tissue
Am I the only one who thinks these guys have super similar sounding voices?
Can you take a look at Jack Plummer ?
I just hope all of these QBs get a fair chance. Josh Allen had no system or help for 2 years. Tua was set up to fail early on. One of these kids will get Washington, and one will get Minnesota. I'm a Dolphins fan, like Tua, yet totally understand the Penix idea. Especially with the upcoming contract situation.
Penix to the cowboys makes a ton of sense.
I would love for
The Raiders to trade back into the bottom of the first round and draft Penix, but I don’t think he will make it past Seattle or Miami. So if we want him we will have to draft him at 13.
Probably right. We will have to draft our RT and CB in rounds 2 and 3
teams don't draft prospects with extensive injury history in the 1st round
Seahawks traded for Sam Howell so taking a QB for them is off the table
Bowers will be there at 13 Colts will want to jump the saints. We can probably drop to 15 and get a second or third round pick and get him at 15
Maye!!!
JJ McCarthy reminds me too much of Mac Jones. Make of that what you will.
There is another Michigan QB they over looked and now he’s the goat 🐐 do these guys ever learn. It’s not being the most athletic it’s about the fight in the dog.
Since we are projecting just to project, I wonder who has the courage to say which one of the top six quarterbacks has the most potential to fail?
Caleb has the best chance of failure. He is a diva and soft. If he goes to Chicago he will have to play in cold and windy weather.
Didn’t he have 3 picks in one half against bowling green? And that’s cause they hadn’t been caught cheating at that point ?
Wait what? Why did he make the Travyon walker comparison lol. Doesn’t that make the JJ is a bust argument for us? He’s stats were bad and he’s been a disappointment of a pro too.
Joel is right. I can't get it out mind >>>*Pennix going to The Dolphins.
Ok….these guys believe 6 QB’s will be taken very early in the draft => will any others creep into the 1st round ?
If 6 QB’s go in the Top 12 picks => how can Rattler and Pratt be far behind?
Travis and Taulia ?
I can think of 4 more but they should be day 2 or 3…..but what happens if you can’t wait any longer ?
Has there ever been 10 QB’s selected in the 1st round ?
If you're not looking for a new starting qb, you're not taking 1 in the first round
@@joshuagarner1654
Packers selected Jordan Love No. 26 in the 1st round of the 2020 draft => they clearly had a starting QB (future HOFer).
You’re clearly wrong => don’t even know recent NFL history => but if you want to spew excuses now => be my guest.
Is this a joke?
Okay this is funny and I'm going to highlight this. Joel klatt just said that he saw Drake may make four throws that were in tight areas and maybe they were with leverage......
Michael Penix made those throws all the time!!!! He made those throws every single game the whole game every single weekend all year!!! I disagree with Klatt.
Mark my words whoever gets Michael Penix is going to be big ballin. Big ROLLIN🔥🤘👑
Having Maye over Jayden Daniels is ridiculous lmao. Maye is wildly inconsistent, poor footwork, bad technique, misses gimme throws with regularity, and has happy feet in the pocket.
The best Qb in this class won't be one of the hyped up 3-4 guys.
You right. Penix is the best passer on the draft. The rest of these guys are overhyped because they can run around against college freshman and sophomores.
Agree with everything you guys say about Penix, BUT, I think he’s a glass house. After watching what Michigan’s defense did to him physically and how that affected him, I think he’s a high risk pick due to injury.
Did you see how bad the raiders made Mahomes look on Christmas day?? Bad games happen but 1 bad game in 2 years should not disqualify Penix
@@user-zk3tg1ws4q I agree. His talent can’t be ignored and I’d even argue that he put up good numbers against Michigan. My point was more about him having suffered some serious leg injuries in his past and clearly they were brought to light in that title game. I just worry about his longevity in the game at the Pro level. One more serious leg injury and he’s going to be much less mobile. Probably the best passer we’ve seen come out in a long time however.
JJ is a game manager in college. LOL! How does that work?
JJ is way overrated. Reminds me of Tebow.
Penix to the Seahawks would be a good fit. He'd look good in a Seahawk uni.
I dont think Micheal Penix Jr will be there at 21. Thats Just me.
Please let him fall to the Raiders @ 13. A few months ago, it was take him at #44 no matter what anybody says.
Pennix to Denver!!
Miami apparently needs 2 lefties? I dont get that.
Trey didn’t go to a bad team
McCarthy reminds me of Greg McElroy the once Crimson tide Qb he did just enough on those great defensive Alabama teams who was good never great if JJ goes top 5 that might be the biggest bust move of all time I think Caleb is top 5 but can he get rid of some of his bad habits Maye should have have stayed in school Daniel’s he’s been in school forever is his numbers inflated because of that and is he topped out Bo and Penix I don’t think or first round picks this a poor Qb class in my opinion
Penix to the dolphins saints Seahawks or Vikings
Been trying to speak him to my Saints into existence for a while now.
Penix is not going to Miami. He will be drafted by raiders
Any team that reaches for McCarthy loses the draft
Sadly this may be the true, I think he is a top 15 pick not top 5, not worth 3 1st round picks.
@@vikinglobo2415he's barely top 30 let alone top 15.
Please elaborate why
Agreed
washington and NE have trash lines. Terrible locations to go for anyone...NE has no WR that would be wr 4 on any team in the league...picking at 1,2,3 does not = a HOF qb...the top 10 list of qbs every year is chock full of picks 6-15 way more so than picks 1-5....get a bloody line, get weapons then you can actually be ready for a rookie. The nfls desire to get a franchise savior is just stupid...if you dont give a young qb a chance to succeed they more often than not wont...
I'm sorry but there were multiple games where they completely took JJ out of the game. I just don't believe in him as anything other than a decent backup.
Lol, such a lie.
False
I would love for you to prove that, lmao
JJ is so overrated. He is Tebow all over again
For klatt to praise JJ saying I’ll do whatever to win. I guess no one else thinks that. You take him. You’re drafting another qb in 3-4 yrs
You draft daniels or penix you will be drafting a qb in 3 yrs. There the ones overrated
@@Nick-kj4nq Daniels is light years better than JJ. He’s a second rounder at best
You obviously haven’t read what executives are saying about him after the combine. He’s way ahead of the curve in understanding the game and what it takes to win. Alabama got him flustered early and he came back, got settled down and won the game.
He’s a great leader and will do what needs to be done to win. Reminds me of Tom Brady
@@blacklabelholsters1635 alot of those executives wanted Ryan leaf over Peyton manning. Those executives let Tom Brady last til third round. Montana til the 3rd. I can go on and on. .. now he’s Tom Brady Wow smh
@@Triggered_TV24 Those executives are no longer in the game, dude.
Also, Tom didn’t go in the second round, he went in the Sixth Round with Pick 199!
Taking these guys high helps them get paid, which they deserve, but it also puts an insane amount of expectations on them.
JJ is a great leader, is an INCREDIBLE athlete, knows the game and has shown he’s willing to learn and do what is necessary to win. I’ll take that all day offer guys like MVH Jr. who didn’t go to the combine, participate in his pro day and if you watch his games against Michigan, even fight for the ball when it wasn’t thrown right to him.
Anyhow, it’ll be interesting to see what happens and I hope all these guys succeed. Actively against KIDS is messed up, wouldn’t you agree?
As a Packers fan I hope and pray the Vikings trade their draft picks to move up and get McCarthy
This class will have more busts at the quarterback position than ever before and these clowns love this class and they will go zero dark 30 when these guys fall on their face
Will these guys admit their mistakes when most of these guys bust???
How many of us QB prognosticators will look like fools in three years?
QBs with biggest bust potential: Jayden Daniels, JJ McCarthy and Michael Penix. Caleb Williams will be a star. Drake Maye will be a pretty good QB if they let him sit in Year 1. Bo Nix will be an adequate game manager and a very good backup QB. Penix and Daniels will get injured. McCarthy will be an interception machine.
1. Caleb
2. Daniels
3. Penix
Only 3 QBs worth a first round pick.
Lmao ...I wonder why..
I don’t care what anyone says, McCarthy is the biggest trash can QB in this draft. He’s the most overrated player I’ve ever seen. The dude looks like me when I throw a football, and it ain’t pretty folks. He won a championship handing the ball off.
Stop JJ is overrated
Nope