Harris Sultan is reasonable and logical about almost everything except when it comes to Hinduism, Hindus and India. And it is very typical of any Pakistani origin person brought up anywhere in the world. They are brought up on Hindu hate. He does not know the nature of Hinduism nor does he want to know about it. He refuses to see that not only did India face British colonialism but also Islamic colonialism which was in some ways way more cruel than the British. It is quite a competition which one was worse. He does not know that Hinduism is NOT a religion in Abrahamic sense. It can more correctly be called Indic Spiritual and knowledge system and that includes Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism. There was no hard demarcation bet these “religions” in the pre-British. If there is a true definition of liberalism and critical thinking, there is no better knowledge system than that of Hinduism. Kushal also is part of the Hindu thought btw. And as for mosques built over temples, they are symbols of colonialism and our humiliation just for not being Muslims. Certain historical wrongs cannot be accepted. It is not that Hindus stopped going to those places or stopped worshipping in those places or stopped fighting to get back those places ever.for past 1000 years. You don’t know about our struggle, Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura are our holiest of places. Our hearts reside there. It is like Harris asking Arabs to move on if Hindus from India had occupied Mecca, razed it to ground and built a temple on top of it, humiliated the Arabs, put Quran on steps of the temple for people to trod on while Arabs wanted their holy place back all the time. Btw, Arabs have not forgiven Turkey for its rule over them. I would challenge Harris to show me single claim to violence by Hindus where they attacked a non Hindu for being a non-Hindu, unless we have been attacked first. That is not the part of our thought process. It is quintessentially Abrahamic and it includes Communism, which is the fourth Abrahamic religion. And yes, I can discuss caste, and Bari Masjid and Gujarat riots and lynching of Akhlaq, all of those that the Abrahamics use to attack us. I can discuss PM Modi with you and Yogi ji with you. My only challenge is that you use facts and logic, not your western or Abrahamic or Pakistani lens.
Do u remember atheist republic and there blasphemy pic . He is friends with them no wonder he hates hindu. They all are western propagandist who don't like indian civilization and culture
He’s an atheist, he doesn’t understand the significance of sacred sites to any religion. He has his own belief system and biases. Take what you like agree to disagree on the rest
Khushal please convey my one message to Harris 🙏 Sometimes I feel that Harris thinks that only rich people like Ritik roshan and Virat Kohli (who r Hindus) only they are Seculars in India,Aree bhai ham aam log Khushal ya mere jaise log 95 percentage of Hindus born seculars hote hai,bas ab hame kisi ka domination pasand nahi ham par,so we react thank you Khushal.
its okay bro. he is from pakistan. they have never met indian hindus in Indiaso they dont know anything and also pakistanis are taught to hate Hindus. on top of it internet only shows the extremists of any side.
That's what Harris don't understand,majority Hindus are raised in a secular way,we just dont want muslim to control us,because we know what is their ideologies.
Haris has been wrong multiple times its just that I can't confront him because I don't have a platform he thinks he knows everything. Even a curious kitabi keeda & aspirant or world's 2nd most difficult exam like me who sucked up World History, World Geography (both political & physical), Indian Polity & World Polity, Geo-politics & Geo-economics, World Arts & Cultures, World Religions & Political Ideologies, Philosophy, Science technology, Space Science & much more can't claim that I can't be wrong. He only has strong hold on knowledge of a particular religion & I can beat him in any debate & I'm just 24 And yes I'm very arrogantly proud of my knowledge, which I got because of my curious nature because I want to know everything. I really want to debate him & show him how a real centrist isliye, he see's India through the lenses of mainstream western media. Multiple times he barks without knowing the other side. Or veery apne asal desi accent me bol lia kar yeh forced fake british accent na bola kar na to desi hi rehta or na hi british ata hai samajh me k forced hai kam se kam desio se to desi accent me baat kar liya kar and its a fact k language hum koi bhi bol le par hamara real accent hamari mother tongue/ first language wala hi hota hai. Being a real centrist & a true nationalist I really want to debate this victim of western mainstream media & shut his mouth when it comes to India
Good podcast! I don't agree with Harris's opinion that the Ram Mandir (which he left unnamed) should not have replaced the Babri Masjid because then going by that logic all the whites would have to return to Europe from the places they colonized. This is a false equivalence. If the entire world has resigned to the fact that the whites are here to stay in places like Australia and America and that the destruction of aboriginal civilization and culture cannot he reversed, it is only because the aborigines were decimated abd annihilated so badly that they now only make up an insignificant percentage of the current population. They don't have the numbers to count, they probably have insufficient memory of and attachment to their original culture and religion, and they have other priorities such as survival to worry about. However, what makes India stand out among colonized civilizations is that we did not allow ourselves to be decimated, despite the repeated and intense waves of islamic invasions and colonization followed by european colonization. Dharmik civilization and religions still make up a majority of India's population, we still have a deep connect with their culture and religion, and why wouldn't we want to restore the most sacred and important places of our heritage/history that were desecrated and destroyed? I bet that Harris would have a different view if the aboriginals in Oz or Red Indians in the Americas still constituted say 50% or even 20% of the population in those regions and made demands to restore key monuments and sacred places pertaining to their heritage.
Hindus boycott muslim business at temple area and it's valid because other Hindus can reap that fruit I've never seen Hindus selling any muslim things at their masjid even there shop mostly muslim don't buy from them during their festival...
I don't kike their balnving act, anyplace in India Muslims increases in number they make lives hell for Hindus, boycotting businesses and not renting is es to Muslims is a very small token. Hindus don't do that to Jains, Ikhs, Budds, Jews, Parsi.
@@ishankanwar8411 your statement is just an excuse to maintain status quo, which enables islamic extremism and is harmful for everyone. You're commenting as if every community is the same in each aspect, which in reality is not true.
What historic wrongs are you even talking about? The muslims oppressed, slaughtered, raped, enslaved, and chased jews from country to country for 1400 years, are we going to hold modern muslims responsible for that? Every single ethnicity and nation on this planet is responsible for historical wrongdoing, we would never get anywhere if we went with your idea.
@@ishankanwar8411 It will end when Historical wrongs stop having an impact on the present and the future. I can give you an example. “Slavery” was a historical wrong but it doesn’t pose any threat or impacts the present or the future. However, Mosques built on religiously Holy lands of Hindus in India have present day impact and needs to be corrected. But that doesn’t mean we should ask for former Temples in Pakistan to be made again because Pakistan is like 99% muslim and no Indian Hindu should care what’s happening there. But here in India, with over 80% Hindus, seeing Mosques on top of temples impacts us even today. And if historical wrongs are not to be corrected at all, why have reservations for certain castes when our constitution doesn’t allow any discrimination?
Haris Sultan is the only opinion podcaster from the Indian Subcontinent who remains steadfast in his convictions. I've been a follower of Haris for nearly three years and have observed that he doesn't shy away from criticizing his followers or subscribers when they are 'mistaken'. This sets him apart from others in his field who tend to abandon their stated principles when faced with subscriber pressure. I'm concerned that Haris' courage and honesty may be causing him to lose subscribers and potential income. However, this only deepens my respect for him as a courageous, insightful, and intelligent contrarian. He truly embodies the ideals of a genuine liberal democrat, both in his words and actions. :)
Haris is correct in pointing out the mistake that west makes of not discussing Islam in media, giving example of Piers Morgan discussing Hamas but not about the source and it’s fallacy, which if exposed might creat more rational minds amid Muslims.
It's not discussed because people are terrified and not without good reason. You need only look at what happened to Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rushdie, terrorism is unfortunately very effective. Realistically I can't see a way forward where cooler heads address and discuss the issues we are having in a sensible way, something awful will inevitably happen that will serve as a red line event for public and what happens after that is anyone's guess.. I imagine nothing good.
Here in the west they get free food stamps, welfare for rent and utilities, free college, while the rest of us work full time and are forced to pay for it, they have 5 wives with 10 kids and get money for the government for each kid. Muslims are inherently against western civilization and should not be part of any free society, especially in societies with social policies and welfare.
Im sorry, but what exactly do you mean by dharma here? Is your understanding of dharma equivalent to some form of natural law- a set of objective moral principles that are known to all people? If so, then your understanding of dharma comes nowhere close to what the Hindu tradition understood by the word dharma. According to Jaimini, the author of the Purva Mīmāmsa Sūtra, dharma is that which is enjoined by a scriptural injunction (codana laksanoartho dharma- PMS 1.1.2). For Jaimini, dharma meant the invisible consequences that an action bore (such as punya and svarga). Because dharma could not be known through any means other than scripture, dharma exclusively came from the Veda and the Smrti. What this entails is that dharma was a kind of divine command morality, not unlike the theological voluntarism that Muslims subscribe to. The notion of dharma being a universal moral code only became popularised after the Hindu renaissance in the 19th century. What I’m trying to say is that most Indic renaissance people had no clue as to what dharma is in the Hindu tradition. So when I see people advocating for a dharmic state, I immediately hear advocacy for a theocracy.
@@adityaranjit9564 Basically he means no more one sided secularism where Hindus have been the victims and muslims have always been favoured yet they backstab our nation and their loyality is reflected in their religion.
FO Harris. We want our Katas Raj back. Just as Jews want their holy land. We want our holy sites back. Indirectly YOU ARE HOLDING AN ISLAMIST POSITION.
To prevent future break up of India , India should give up secular state logo and adopt HINDU STATE asap. Other wise himaliyan blunder is waiting on other side of dark tunnel.
It is one of the most balanced conversation .. Temples of india are not just place of worship but part of history and culture .. You dont see temples mashrooming anywhere and everywhere just like that Place city have more relevance than temple..
Very good topic & very good guest. Harris should have spoken some time in Hindi... also Kushal should have clarified Harris when he brought up the topic of building temple in Ayodhya. .. Overall good podcast. Jai Hind
Boosting fertility rates is very very difficult. Even in the Right Wing countries like Czechia, Sweden, Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Greece, etc still have the fertility rates at 1.7. One village in Japan did actually boost it to 2.8, and this, after being at a risk of disappearance. But the amount of resources and the machinery needed makes it very difficult to do it at a national level. Such a Titan of the World, like China is also finding it difficult to do.
Well as a country become economically rich birth rate declines its obvious it is also happening in the china and it will propably happen in India also.
@@punyashloka4946well, did it happen in oil rich Arab countries? Did the birth rate fall or remained stable or increase in the last 3 generations of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait et al during the last 75 yrs? In Israel btw which is one of the most prosperous, powerful and advanced country in Asia - Jewish women bear many children because of the existential crisis they face from Arab, Iranian, Turkic & N. African Muslims who surround Israel them from 3½ sides and already outnumber the Israeli Jews by 120:1
@@amolsinha9871 Except Israel, Saudi Arabia, Oman and Kuwait, all rich and developed countries have low fertility rates. And that's likely because all the others were recently reformed and opened up, while Israel has a strong family/tribe/child care culture. UAE, Qatar and Bahrain have TFRs below 2. But the Birth rates are falling everywhere in the World, outside select Eastern European countries. It is possible to raise it, as was done in some villages of Japan and Eastern Europe. But the approach isn't scalable as too much money and resources are needed. In the Muslim but now largely secular Turkey, the TFR is about 2, but Erdogan with his Neo-Ottoman goals, wants to change that and hence, he is making the rural areas more religious, while bringing in religious Arabs as refugees.
Harris Sultan is the Sheila Rashid of the Muslim world. Until a few months ago, he never used the word 'Hindu' and he called us 'TUNNY'. He spoke badly about the Indian Ex-muslim movement because he said TUNNIs support them. Now a complete U turn... Waqt badal gaya, jasbaad badal gaye 😂
Tunni was used to describe the incels. The term will still be appropriate for them. And I am a Hindu myself. But he is just more focused on the islamic threat right now.
1:27:05 i agree with haris we hindus are interested our own festival and rituals rather than dismantling other faith and traditions in specially western countries.That’s why in west we cant see the term “hindu jihadi or terrorist “ that want hindu rashtra or like sharia.
We are Hindu Rastra that's why we secular... For thousands of years, there has been no religion based genocide.. Did our Kings attend Western Universities?
Its very important to have proper nomenclature to indicate each group of people. Which i understand is very difficult because all groups are overlapping. But if we don't have one then it might lead to mistakes which we might regret. Saying this for an Indian as well as Global citizen (Humanity) perspective. Radhe Radhe
Haris has been wrong multiple times its just that I can't confront him because I don't have a platform he thinks he knows everything. Even a curious kitabi keeda & aspirant or world's 2nd most difficult exam like me who sucked up World History, World Geography (both political & physical), Indian Polity & World Polity, Geo-politics & Geo-economics, World Arts & Cultures, World Religions & Political Ideologies, Philosophy, Science technology, Space Science & much more can't claim that I can't be wrong. He only has strong hold on knowledge of a particular religion & I can beat him in any debate & I'm just 24 And yes I'm very arrogantly proud of my knowledge, which I got because of my curious nature because I want to know everything. I really want to debate him & show him how a real centrist isliye, he see's India through the lenses of mainstream western media. Multiple times he barks without knowing the other side. Or veery apne asal desi accent me bol lia kar yeh forced fake british accent na bola kar na to desi hi rehta or na hi british ata hai samajh me k forced hai kam se kam desio se to desi accent me baat kar liya kar and its a fact k language hum koi bhi bol le par hamara real accent hamari mother tongue/ first language wala hi hota hai. Being a real centrist & a true nationalist I really want to debate this victim of western mainstream media & shut his mouth when it comes to India
To be honest I trust you. I have disagreed with his views regarding Indian history in the past and he seemed to have changed his position now. There is a little Pakistani arrogance left over in him.
Not sure if Kushal playing Devil’s advocate, but Kushal who started with opening remarks as “He is Right of center, and Harris is left of center”, (not sure why he said so, both kushal and Harris are left of center), but kushal was extremely politically correct, very conscious and careful about using terminologies, and not discussing hard question, Harris was discussing more freely, with more politically incorrect. And I see this trend in most so called right wing intellectuals from Hindu perspective, when they get chance to discuss in public, they go more secular then secularists, they go more self criticism mode then other side, they go more politically correct then left liberals. I say this behavior is nothing but sign of low self esteem and low in confidence, always looking for left liberal approval, colonized mind Although I understand that Kushal need to maintain some politically correctness because his chance of podcast cancellation is much high then Harris. Because Kushal is self claimed right of center. Obviously, Kushal being from Hindu background can’t go extremely critical on Islamism, like Harris. That’s a bitter reality of the world today, no one cud take liberty to be critical on Islam but Muslims themselves. Pretty complex world, isn’t it? Mind boggling parallel realities of the world
He didn’t aay he was Right of Center and Harris was Left of center. He said his podcast audience is majority right of center while Harris’ audience is left of center.
I live in Sweden and this has been a persistent problem. Often the right wing is a reaction to the left wing and this problem has been growing, especially in places like malmö with high immigrant populations. This is why there has been a huge surge for voting for the alt-right party (the Swedish democrats). Swedes are notoriously tight lipped about their beliefs and only the extreme left wingers and feminists will talk about their opinions. I’ve spoken to a few people who voted for the sd party. One girl said she voted for them bc she lived in Dubai for 16 yrs and abided by their rules only to be harassed and groped daily while walking to her home in her own country. Similarly violent shootings have gone up, so has gang violence and the increase in hundreds of small orgs who fund certain activities (according to the former mayor of Gothenburg who was from a leftist party). Until Sweden takes a radical approach, I don’t see things changing course until it gets much much worse. This is also a huge disservice to the people who have Intergrated and live peacefully, both Hindus like me, other Indians and immigrants and refugee Muslims.
@@ankurchaudhary3515 every muslim have same mindset... They have no free mindset like others...so they can't think for future they stuck in void of past
Bro, I don't know how you guys consider Islam as a threat. They are not, and they don't have that much power. The protests for Palestine are happening because Israel did wrong to Palestine, and people from all groups are starting to support Palestine. This doesn't mean that Muslims have strong political power. They are weak, and we shouldn't see them as a threat.
One more thing, Harris, while it is true that the western world right now is a very good place to live and at least verbally espouses democracy world over, the reasons of the US to start the Ukraine war or come in support of Taiwan are not altruistic ones. They are purely geo political and its desire to maintain its hegemony.
He was mentioning that Muslim do not come out to support wars elsewhere. Which is true. Muslim are bad people. But why is America supporting Saudi after what it is doing in Yamin?
I usually agree with Kushal but he was being way too gullible here. As someone who always champions Sovereignty, he surely was very hesitant here about the west exercising their sovereignty. Seems very contradictory to me. If they want to limit or hell even enact a complete immigration moratorium, it's their sovereign right to do so! Every state has a responsibility to preserve their demographics.
@@Rishi6901 yaar I m a kattar Sanatani but Harris ko is matter par kuch galat mat bolo.use choti choti baato par mat pakdo,kuch badi galti ho to criticize karo
Harris’ concept of a superior civilisation is flawed. The west may be a more accepting and soft civilisation but that’s no use if it’s softness is leading to its impending demise. The Indian civilisation was also very soft and accepting in the 9th century and look at where that got us
Why can’t Muslims just stay within their own countries? Why at all do they go to non-Islamic nations as refugees and then want to create a Shariah state there too. If they want a Shariah land then they should have stayed in their own nation which they left in the first place. Just asking.
American muslims who are scattered might be "integrated" only because they're isolated but go to Dearborn and see the level of "integration" there. Its all about the numbers.
Tbh... Some Indian atheists need to learn a lot from Harris Sultan. He's the only person who finds flaws in behaviour of online atheists, does constructive criticism of religion rather than others just making out of context shorts, memes and jokes devaluing themselves.
There is something wrong with Khushal. I don't know what. He somehow like that beer bicep guy do not sound good fit for serious topics. On the other hand Harris Sultan knows the problem much better and is far less apologetic. May be him being a muslim he does not have that much fear of getting cancelled like Khushal does.
I respectfully disagree with Kushal's point of view on islam and islamism. they both are same. when a religious muslim population reach to the 33% mark then islamism will rise. it is written in quran " when you are not in power beg for peace but when your in power dont need for peace"
From river to the sea Palestine will be free is genocide but 10000 people dead when they are under occupation is not genocide. Europe was a civilized puppy and that make it ethnically dominant in Australia, North America.
Harris also say tunni to Some Hindus that you won't like it, Kushal don't do it, He call them trad. kushal don't say that much harsh word to muslims too. Harris is more harsh, because he don't live either in pakistan or India.
Are bhai, Harris, Hindustani/Punjabi me bola karo bro. You sound weird speaking English with your accent, in all honesty It just doesn't have the conviction that you have when you speak your native tongue dear sir ❤ May the force be with you!
Sir aap Hindi bahot achha bol lety ho fir aapka koyi show jaise ye wala show hai ye mere jaise unpadh logo ka badaa interesting subject hai.. please koyi koyi show islam per Hindi main b kar liya kare.. ye sirf request hai bhai aapse 🙏🙏
Zionism is colonialism. Both are same thing. "It is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority. My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. [...] This is equally true of the Arabs. They feel at least the same instinctive, jealous love of Palestine as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling prairies. [...] Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs of Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the Land of Israel." - [12] The Iron Wall, Vladimir Jabotinsky.
This is not about religion. The conflict is about land occupied illegally by zionists. Muslims and jews have livzsed inperfect harmony fir generations. Hamas has destroyed number of israeli tanks. They are not teetering. Haris is talking bunk. It is colonial issue.
Im sorry but as horrific and tragic a genocide by famine, it’s not the same thing as targeted, premeditated, physical extermination of an entire people.
You shouldn’t bring Harris sultan on your podcast seeing how unhinged Harris sultan’s understanding of Hinduism is. Expected more confidence and wisdom from you
15:40 There's no such thing as Arab Jews. We are Mizrahi Jews. Please do not refer to us as Arab. And Jewish claim to this land is not just religious, it's indigenous. Our entire HISTORY as people was created here. Our entire holidays are events that happened in the land of Israel. I know that you are on our side, but it's very frustrating to hear this kind of ignorance...
Harris Sultan is reasonable and logical about almost everything except when it comes to Hinduism, Hindus and India. And it is very typical of any Pakistani origin person brought up anywhere in the world. They are brought up on Hindu hate.
He does not know the nature of Hinduism nor does he want to know about it. He refuses to see that not only did India face British colonialism but also Islamic colonialism which was in some ways way more cruel than the British. It is quite a competition which one was worse.
He does not know that Hinduism is NOT a religion in Abrahamic sense. It can more
correctly be called Indic Spiritual and knowledge system and that includes Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism. There was no hard demarcation bet these “religions” in the pre-British.
If there is a true definition of liberalism and critical thinking, there is no better knowledge system than that of Hinduism. Kushal also is part of the Hindu thought btw.
And as for mosques built over temples, they are symbols of colonialism and our humiliation just for not being Muslims. Certain historical wrongs cannot be accepted. It is not that Hindus stopped going to those places or stopped worshipping in those places or stopped fighting to get back those places ever.for past 1000 years. You don’t know about our struggle, Ayodhya, Kashi and Mathura are our holiest of places. Our hearts reside there. It is like Harris asking Arabs to move on if Hindus from India had occupied Mecca, razed it to ground and built a temple on top of it, humiliated the Arabs, put Quran on steps of the temple for people to trod on while Arabs wanted their holy place back all the time. Btw, Arabs have not forgiven Turkey for its rule over them.
I would challenge Harris to show me single claim to violence by Hindus where they attacked a non Hindu for being a non-Hindu, unless we have been attacked first. That is not the part of our thought process. It is quintessentially Abrahamic and it includes Communism, which is the fourth Abrahamic religion.
And yes, I can discuss caste, and Bari Masjid and Gujarat riots and lynching of Akhlaq, all of those that the Abrahamics use to attack us. I can discuss PM Modi with you and Yogi ji with you. My only challenge is that you use facts and logic, not your western or Abrahamic or Pakistani lens.
Very well said. 👌🏻
Do u remember atheist republic and there blasphemy pic . He is friends with them no wonder he hates hindu. They all are western propagandist who don't like indian civilization and culture
He’s an atheist, he doesn’t understand the significance of sacred sites to any religion. He has his own belief system and biases. Take what you like agree to disagree on the rest
😮🔥🔥🔥on point
Excellent! Well said! Thank you!
Kushal is like a typical Indian who wants to score brownie points in front of a Pakistani, typical "Aman ki Asha"
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
ISRAEL IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE
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Khushal please convey my one message to Harris 🙏 Sometimes I feel that Harris thinks that only rich people like Ritik roshan and Virat Kohli (who r Hindus) only they are Seculars in India,Aree bhai ham aam log Khushal ya mere jaise log 95 percentage of Hindus born seculars hote hai,bas ab hame kisi ka domination pasand nahi ham par,so we react thank you Khushal.
its okay bro. he is from pakistan. they have never met indian hindus in Indiaso they dont know anything and also pakistanis are taught to hate Hindus. on top of it internet only shows the extremists of any side.
That's what Harris don't understand,majority Hindus are raised in a secular way,we just dont want muslim to control us,because we know what is their ideologies.
Kushal is also rich. He owns a textile mill in Mumbai.
@@Zeno_334 kushal doesn't believe in charvaka because he has his own textile industry?did u understand?it has nothing to do with his ideology.
Haris has been wrong multiple times its just that I can't confront him because I don't have a platform he thinks he knows everything. Even a curious kitabi keeda & aspirant or world's 2nd most difficult exam like me who sucked up World History, World Geography (both political & physical), Indian Polity & World Polity, Geo-politics & Geo-economics, World Arts & Cultures, World Religions & Political Ideologies, Philosophy, Science technology, Space Science & much more can't claim that I can't be wrong. He only has strong hold on knowledge of a particular religion & I can beat him in any debate & I'm just 24 And yes I'm very arrogantly proud of my knowledge, which I got because of my curious nature because I want to know everything. I really want to debate him & show him how a real centrist isliye, he see's India through the lenses of mainstream western media. Multiple times he barks without knowing the other side. Or veery apne asal desi accent me bol lia kar yeh forced fake british accent na bola kar na to desi hi rehta or na hi british ata hai samajh me k forced hai kam se kam desio se to desi accent me baat kar liya kar and its a fact k language hum koi bhi bol le par hamara real accent hamari mother tongue/ first language wala hi hota hai. Being a real centrist & a true nationalist I really want to debate this victim of western mainstream media & shut his mouth when it comes to India
Indian muslim is same as Pakistani Muslim they're not just in majority right now.
Good podcast! I don't agree with Harris's opinion that the Ram Mandir (which he left unnamed) should not have replaced the Babri Masjid because then going by that logic all the whites would have to return to Europe from the places they colonized. This is a false equivalence. If the entire world has resigned to the fact that the whites are here to stay in places like Australia and America and that the destruction of aboriginal civilization and culture cannot he reversed, it is only because the aborigines were decimated abd annihilated so badly that they now only make up an insignificant percentage of the current population. They don't have the numbers to count, they probably have insufficient memory of and attachment to their original culture and religion, and they have other priorities such as survival to worry about. However, what makes India stand out among colonized civilizations is that we did not allow ourselves to be decimated, despite the repeated and intense waves of islamic invasions and colonization followed by european colonization. Dharmik civilization and religions still make up a majority of India's population, we still have a deep connect with their culture and religion, and why wouldn't we want to restore the most sacred and important places of our heritage/history that were desecrated and destroyed? I bet that Harris would have a different view if the aboriginals in Oz or Red Indians in the Americas still constituted say 50% or even 20% of the population in those regions and made demands to restore key monuments and sacred places pertaining to their heritage.
Very well said. 👌🏻
He's known for dumb correlations
Loved this interaction 👏👏👏 The clarity of the guest speaker was spot on.!! Well organized Kushal.
Behind that accent, Harris gives the most funny galiya in Punjabi I've ever come across 😂
So glad Kushal you invited him. Kindly try to bring Yamine Mohammad too, a Canadian Ex-Muslim.
He already made a video with her.
F that, he should invite Sahil or Adam Seeker
@@Vivek10010 that also can be done
@@TheBakuganmaster99 thanks bro..will check that
Happy to hear Harris appreciates his Indian roots.
Hindus boycott muslim business at temple area and it's valid because other Hindus can reap that fruit I've never seen Hindus selling any muslim things at their masjid even there shop mostly muslim don't buy from them during their festival...
I don't kike their balnving act, anyplace in India Muslims increases in number they make lives hell for Hindus, boycotting businesses and not renting is es to Muslims is a very small token. Hindus don't do that to Jains, Ikhs, Budds, Jews, Parsi.
True
Muslims also trying to take Monopoly through halal economy
Wow! Great to see both of you together...👍
Salute to Harris , Kushal is an apologist
*Historic wrongs must be corrected, otherwise they will become an excuse to commit new wrongs!*
Where will it end.
@@ishankanwar8411 your statement is just an excuse to maintain status quo, which enables islamic extremism and is harmful for everyone. You're commenting as if every community is the same in each aspect, which in reality is not true.
What historic wrongs are you even talking about? The muslims oppressed, slaughtered, raped, enslaved, and chased jews from country to country for 1400 years, are we going to hold modern muslims responsible for that? Every single ethnicity and nation on this planet is responsible for historical wrongdoing, we would never get anywhere if we went with your idea.
@@ishankanwar8411 It will end when Historical wrongs stop having an impact on the present and the future. I can give you an example. “Slavery” was a historical wrong but it doesn’t pose any threat or impacts the present or the future. However, Mosques built on religiously Holy lands of Hindus in India have present day impact and needs to be corrected. But that doesn’t mean we should ask for former Temples in Pakistan to be made again because Pakistan is like 99% muslim and no Indian Hindu should care what’s happening there. But here in India, with over 80% Hindus, seeing Mosques on top of temples impacts us even today.
And if historical wrongs are not to be corrected at all, why have reservations for certain castes when our constitution doesn’t allow any discrimination?
There are certain historical wrongs that need “righting” while some others better forgotten.
Haris Sultan is the only opinion podcaster from the Indian Subcontinent who remains steadfast in his convictions. I've been a follower of Haris for nearly three years and have observed that he doesn't shy away from criticizing his followers or subscribers when they are 'mistaken'. This sets him apart from others in his field who tend to abandon their stated principles when faced with subscriber pressure.
I'm concerned that Haris' courage and honesty may be causing him to lose subscribers and potential income. However, this only deepens my respect for him as a courageous, insightful, and intelligent contrarian. He truly embodies the ideals of a genuine liberal democrat, both in his words and actions. :)
Are u indian hindu?
@@whats-ur-problem yes on both.
@@whats-ur-problem Take a hint.....No self respecting Indian Hindu would use the term "South Asian"
@@Valkyier911 you are right. my apologies.
that was lazy writing. I usually write desi or Indian Subcontinent.
Abhi edit karta hoon.
p.s. fixed. :)
@@Zeno_334 Woah...a rare breed on internet who accepts and improves...hattip
Haris is correct in pointing out the mistake that west makes of not discussing Islam in media, giving example of Piers Morgan discussing Hamas but not about the source and it’s fallacy, which if exposed might creat more rational minds amid Muslims.
It's not discussed because people are terrified and not without good reason. You need only look at what happened to Charlie Hebdo or Salman Rushdie, terrorism is unfortunately very effective. Realistically I can't see a way forward where cooler heads address and discuss the issues we are having in a sensible way, something awful will inevitably happen that will serve as a red line event for public and what happens after that is anyone's guess.. I imagine nothing good.
How islamic any country becomes depends on population...
I see poor muslims, making 5 or more babies, i think they are striving fo the goal..
They are
Here in the west they get free food stamps, welfare for rent and utilities, free college, while the rest of us work full time and are forced to pay for it, they have 5 wives with 10 kids and get money for the government for each kid. Muslims are inherently against western civilization and should not be part of any free society, especially in societies with social policies and welfare.
yes they are
"Mostly women and children". Feminists are never demanding equality in these situations.
True, these feminist are in bed with islamist, I hate these hypocrites 🙄.
Andrew Tate ke indian Xerox,pehle pursat mein nikhal
@@pradhyudh ah I see so what you’re saying is that Tate wants to treat women like men. What an egalitarian!
We hindus dont want secularism anymore we would like to see bharata emerging as a dharmik state
Im sorry, but what exactly do you mean by dharma here? Is your understanding of dharma equivalent to some form of natural law- a set of objective moral principles that are known to all people? If so, then your understanding of dharma comes nowhere close to what the Hindu tradition understood by the word dharma. According to Jaimini, the author of the Purva Mīmāmsa Sūtra, dharma is that which is enjoined by a scriptural injunction (codana laksanoartho dharma- PMS 1.1.2). For Jaimini, dharma meant the invisible consequences that an action bore (such as punya and svarga). Because dharma could not be known through any means other than scripture, dharma exclusively came from the Veda and the Smrti. What this entails is that dharma was a kind of divine command morality, not unlike the theological voluntarism that Muslims subscribe to. The notion of dharma being a universal moral code only became popularised after the Hindu renaissance in the 19th century.
What I’m trying to say is that most Indic renaissance people had no clue as to what dharma is in the Hindu tradition. So when I see people advocating for a dharmic state, I immediately hear advocacy for a theocracy.
@@adityaranjit9564 Basically he means no more one sided secularism where Hindus have been the victims and muslims have always been favoured yet they backstab our nation and their loyality is reflected in their religion.
FO Harris. We want our Katas Raj back. Just as Jews want their holy land. We want our holy sites back. Indirectly YOU ARE HOLDING AN ISLAMIST POSITION.
Great stream. Thank you for sharing.
Haris is spot on, agree mostly with Haris on his prescription of dealing with Islam
To prevent future break up of India ,
India should give up secular state logo and adopt HINDU STATE asap.
Other wise himaliyan blunder is waiting on other side of dark tunnel.
Sir one stream pls on west bengal. Really there is change in demographic rapidly ?
It is one of the most balanced conversation ..
Temples of india are not just place of worship but part of history and culture ..
You dont see temples mashrooming anywhere and everywhere just like that
Place city have more relevance than temple..
Very good topic & very good guest. Harris should have spoken some time in Hindi... also Kushal should have clarified Harris when he brought up the topic of building temple in Ayodhya. .. Overall good podcast. Jai Hind
Boosting fertility rates is very very difficult. Even in the Right Wing countries like Czechia, Sweden, Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine, Greece, etc still have the fertility rates at 1.7. One village in Japan did actually boost it to 2.8, and this, after being at a risk of disappearance.
But the amount of resources and the machinery needed makes it very difficult to do it at a national level. Such a Titan of the World, like China is also finding it difficult to do.
Well as a country become economically rich birth rate declines its obvious it is also happening in the china and it will propably happen in India also.
@@punyashloka4946well, did it happen in oil rich Arab countries? Did the birth rate fall or remained stable or increase in the last 3 generations of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait et al during the last 75 yrs?
In Israel btw which is one of the most prosperous, powerful and advanced country in Asia - Jewish women bear many children because of the existential crisis they face from Arab, Iranian, Turkic & N. African Muslims who surround Israel them from 3½ sides and already outnumber the Israeli Jews by 120:1
@@amolsinha9871 Except Israel, Saudi Arabia, Oman and Kuwait, all rich and developed countries have low fertility rates. And that's likely because all the others were recently reformed and opened up, while Israel has a strong family/tribe/child care culture. UAE, Qatar and Bahrain have TFRs below 2. But the Birth rates are falling everywhere in the World, outside select Eastern European countries.
It is possible to raise it, as was done in some villages of Japan and Eastern Europe. But the approach isn't scalable as too much money and resources are needed.
In the Muslim but now largely secular Turkey, the TFR is about 2, but Erdogan with his Neo-Ottoman goals, wants to change that and hence, he is making the rural areas more religious, while bringing in religious Arabs as refugees.
Harris Sultan is the Sheila Rashid of the Muslim world.
Until a few months ago, he never used the word 'Hindu' and he called us 'TUNNY'.
He spoke badly about the Indian Ex-muslim movement because he said TUNNIs support them.
Now a complete U turn...
Waqt badal gaya, jasbaad badal gaye 😂
Tunni was used to describe the incels. The term will still be appropriate for them. And I am a Hindu myself. But he is just more focused on the islamic threat right now.
@@J7pat7true nowadays hinduvadis has become too annoying, you can't even discuss with them about anything, total 5 yr old key board warriors
@@J7pat7lol what a bozo. People like him make fool out of u
@@J7pat7tunni is a somalian tribe,you racist
Carvaka i die hard request u to make more videos like this one.
1:27:05 i agree with haris we hindus are interested our own festival and rituals rather than dismantling other faith and traditions in specially western countries.That’s why in west we cant see the term “hindu jihadi or terrorist “ that want hindu rashtra or like sharia.
Chup
@@veernair tere baap ka channel hai?
Very true, you're spot on actually
What do you mean? There are NO Hindu “jihadis” or terrorists anywhere.
We are Hindu Rastra that's why we secular...
For thousands of years, there has been no religion based genocide..
Did our Kings attend Western Universities?
Nice to see Hariss here
Its very important to have proper nomenclature to indicate each group of people. Which i understand is very difficult because all groups are overlapping. But if we don't have one then it might lead to mistakes which we might regret. Saying this for an Indian as well as Global citizen (Humanity) perspective. Radhe Radhe
Thanks!
If muslim boycott jews is not than hindu boycott muslim is also not wrong.
Channel gonna reach 100k soon🎉🎉
Haris has been wrong multiple times its just that I can't confront him because I don't have a platform he thinks he knows everything. Even a curious kitabi keeda & aspirant or world's 2nd most difficult exam like me who sucked up World History, World Geography (both political & physical), Indian Polity & World Polity, Geo-politics & Geo-economics, World Arts & Cultures, World Religions & Political Ideologies, Philosophy, Science technology, Space Science & much more can't claim that I can't be wrong. He only has strong hold on knowledge of a particular religion & I can beat him in any debate & I'm just 24 And yes I'm very arrogantly proud of my knowledge, which I got because of my curious nature because I want to know everything. I really want to debate him & show him how a real centrist isliye, he see's India through the lenses of mainstream western media. Multiple times he barks without knowing the other side. Or veery apne asal desi accent me bol lia kar yeh forced fake british accent na bola kar na to desi hi rehta or na hi british ata hai samajh me k forced hai kam se kam desio se to desi accent me baat kar liya kar and its a fact k language hum koi bhi bol le par hamara real accent hamari mother tongue/ first language wala hi hota hai. Being a real centrist & a true nationalist I really want to debate this victim of western mainstream media & shut his mouth when it comes to India
To be honest I trust you. I have disagreed with his views regarding Indian history in the past and he seemed to have changed his position now. There is a little Pakistani arrogance left over in him.
Not sure if Kushal playing Devil’s advocate, but Kushal who started with opening remarks as “He is Right of center, and Harris is left of center”, (not sure why he said so, both kushal and Harris are left of center), but kushal was extremely politically correct, very conscious and careful about using terminologies, and not discussing hard question, Harris was discussing more freely, with more politically incorrect.
And I see this trend in most so called right wing intellectuals from Hindu perspective, when they get chance to discuss in public, they go more secular then secularists, they go more self criticism mode then other side, they go more politically correct then left liberals.
I say this behavior is nothing but sign of low self esteem and low in confidence, always looking for left liberal approval, colonized mind
Although I understand that Kushal need to maintain some politically correctness because his chance of podcast cancellation is much high then Harris. Because Kushal is self claimed right of center.
Obviously, Kushal being from Hindu background can’t go extremely critical on Islamism, like Harris. That’s a bitter reality of the world today, no one cud take liberty to be critical on Islam but Muslims themselves.
Pretty complex world, isn’t it? Mind boggling parallel realities of the world
Off topic-Watch his podcast with Prakhar the new one. It was amazing
He didn’t aay he was Right of Center and Harris was Left of center. He said his podcast audience is majority right of center while Harris’ audience is left of center.
Pakistani mulhid it's same guy who refuse to believe in leftist and Islamist alliance is real when hindus telling him 😂😂😂😂
Harris accent is so real, khan't see long chime😵
Excellent show
Harris is spot on West need to be harsh on Islam
Tommy Robinson Didn’t say Bring “Indians” He Quite CLEARLY Said “HINDUS”
Islamist is not lost in India their population growing so fast.
I live in Sweden and this has been a persistent problem. Often the right wing is a reaction to the left wing and this problem has been growing, especially in places like malmö with high immigrant populations. This is why there has been a huge surge for voting for the alt-right party (the Swedish democrats). Swedes are notoriously tight lipped about their beliefs and only the extreme left wingers and feminists will talk about their opinions. I’ve spoken to a few people who voted for the sd party. One girl said she voted for them bc she lived in Dubai for 16 yrs and abided by their rules only to be harassed and groped daily while walking to her home in her own country. Similarly violent shootings have gone up, so has gang violence and the increase in hundreds of small orgs who fund certain activities (according to the former mayor of Gothenburg who was from a leftist party).
Until Sweden takes a radical approach, I don’t see things changing course until it gets much much worse. This is also a huge disservice to the people who have Intergrated and live peacefully, both Hindus like me, other Indians and immigrants and refugee Muslims.
I think 27:16 applies almost as much to Kushal and many many people in our country as well
Well meaning discussion.
Why is Harris Genrealizing like we Indians. It should be Pakistani Muslims or Indian Muslims.
Because mindset ek he h whether it’s Pakistani or Indian Muslims !!
@@ankurchaudhary3515 every muslim have same mindset... They have no free mindset like others...so they can't think for future they stuck in void of past
@@ankurchaudhary3515He is an Ex-Muslim. But he wants to portray n pointing to all Hindhus, Sikh, JAINS, For all muslims doing outside the India.
How did you survive this many years on earth but don't know the basics of pisslam?
@@ankurchaudhary3515exactly
I will anyway listen till the end because I am surprised to find a 'moderate Muslim's speak up
Islamist r not losing dude!
U r not connected to ground , due to lack of Muslim leaders it is growing without making noise.
Its true. Lot of ppl like harris tend to be blindsided by their bias. You're right that they are winning.
Global numbers it's actually declining.
Bro, I don't know how you guys consider Islam as a threat. They are not, and they don't have that much power. The protests for Palestine are happening because Israel did wrong to Palestine, and people from all groups are starting to support Palestine. This doesn't mean that Muslims have strong political power. They are weak, and we shouldn't see them as a threat.
One more thing, Harris, while it is true that the western world right now is a very good place to live and at least verbally espouses democracy world over, the reasons of the US to start the Ukraine war or come in support of Taiwan are not altruistic ones. They are purely geo political and its desire to maintain its hegemony.
He was mentioning that Muslim do not come out to support wars elsewhere. Which is true. Muslim are bad people. But why is America supporting Saudi after what it is doing in Yamin?
I usually agree with Kushal but he was being way too gullible here. As someone who always champions Sovereignty, he surely was very hesitant here about the west exercising their sovereignty. Seems very contradictory to me.
If they want to limit or hell even enact a complete immigration moratorium, it's their sovereign right to do so! Every state has a responsibility to preserve their demographics.
There is no such thing as Islamaphobia.The fear of Islam is no Phobia,It is common sense
ACCORDING TO THE PEACEFULS:
West are maintaining an undeclared war against them. So 😂
Harris may have left Islam but islamism has not left him.
Islamist is big thread people need to talk about this.
good job guys
What, Kushal Mehra? Why didnt you counter Harris on his positions on our temples? Why are you being so politically correct?
This leftist and Islamist alliance also exist in India.
Yes it exists all over the world
Harris bhai ka accent change ho gya from last time.. changed to british..😂😂
That's the infiriority complex in Pakistani diaspora.
Chutiya hai woh
Hindu hater
Indian subcontient have inferior complexity disorder... Each indian subcontinent country having same disorder
He is from Australia. Same accent. It might change when he speaks Urdu
@@Rishi6901 yaar I m a kattar Sanatani but Harris ko is matter par kuch galat mat bolo.use choti choti baato par mat pakdo,kuch badi galti ho to criticize karo
1:18:15 indian culture is best in most aspects
Harris’ concept of a superior civilisation is flawed. The west may be a more accepting and soft civilisation but that’s no use if it’s softness is leading to its impending demise. The Indian civilisation was also very soft and accepting in the 9th century and look at where that got us
Do a podcast with Harris about the topic of Left Vs Right in India 🥴🥴🥴
I am never wrong.. and this overconfidence makes you wrong dear Harris 😊
U can take a Pakistani out of Pakistan but not fake accent out of them
Why can’t Muslims just stay within their own countries? Why at all do they go to non-Islamic nations as refugees and then want to create a Shariah state there too. If they want a Shariah land then they should have stayed in their own nation which they left in the first place. Just asking.
Its all about Oil and the Market value of billions of Muslims that Westerners don't want to go against
Why do non-Christian’s migrate to primarily Christian countries like Australia, Canada, USA, UK, New Zealand, etc..?
Kushal becoming political correct.
American muslims who are scattered might be "integrated" only because they're isolated but go to Dearborn and see the level of "integration" there. Its all about the numbers.
Y there's no counter from Kushal 🤷♂️
Tbh... Some Indian atheists need to learn a lot from Harris Sultan. He's the only person who finds flaws in behaviour of online atheists, does constructive criticism of religion rather than others just making out of context shorts, memes and jokes devaluing themselves.
I think you are talking about SID and his live stream friend VM. Isn't that ?
There is something wrong with Khushal. I don't know what. He somehow like that beer bicep guy do not sound good fit for serious topics. On the other hand Harris Sultan knows the problem much better and is far less apologetic. May be him being a muslim he does not have that much fear of getting cancelled like Khushal does.
1500 👍
NICE HADITH.
Dubai is more western than London
😂😂😂 Kushal trying to be politically correct like great western civilisation and as explained by UAE FM…
The video from memri Tv was declared as fake.
bring ex Muslim sahil please
This guy has a visceral hatred towards Sahil and Adam.
Adam will expose his understanding of Islam
I respectfully disagree with Kushal's point of view on islam and islamism. they both are same. when a religious muslim population reach to the 33% mark then islamism will rise. it is written in quran " when you are not in power beg for peace but when your in power dont need for peace"
Both these people don't have children to carry forward their message,muslims do. Make it of what you will
Hindus telling Pakistani mulhid for long time Islamist and Leftist alliance is real now has eyes open 😂😂😂😂
I am left of centre in india, then I come to the west and I find myself on the right because of political climate here😂
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From river to the sea Palestine will be free is genocide but 10000 people dead when they are under occupation is not genocide. Europe was a civilized puppy and that make it ethnically dominant in Australia, North America.
I like both but Harris ran away with this..🎉
Harris also say tunni to Some Hindus that you won't like it, Kushal don't do it, He call them trad.
kushal don't say that much harsh word to muslims too.
Harris is more harsh, because he don't live either in pakistan or India.
Are bhai, Harris, Hindustani/Punjabi me bola karo bro.
You sound weird speaking English with your accent, in all honesty
It just doesn't have the conviction that you have when you speak your native tongue dear sir ❤
May the force be with you!
Haris is an old indian sage
A great humatarian a great indian i dont think there is pakistan
Maintaining your convenience in Islam is called AlTaqiya... Just use people and things of other religions till they suit you
Sir aap Hindi bahot achha bol lety ho fir aapka koyi show jaise ye wala show hai ye mere jaise unpadh logo ka badaa interesting subject hai.. please koyi koyi show islam per Hindi main b kar liya kare.. ye sirf request hai bhai aapse 🙏🙏
Zionism is colonialism. Both are same thing.
"It is utterly impossible to obtain the voluntary consent of the Palestine Arabs for converting Palestine from an Arab country into a country with a Jewish majority. My readers have a general idea of the history of colonisation in other countries. I suggest they consider all the precedents with which they are acquainted, and see whether there is one solitary instance of any colonisation being carried on with the consent of the native population. There is no such precedent. [...] This is equally true of the Arabs. They feel at least the same instinctive, jealous love of Palestine as the old Aztecs felt for ancient Mexico, and the Sioux for their rolling prairies. [...] Every native population in the world resists colonists as long as it has the slightest hope of being able to rid itself of the danger of being colonised. That is what the Arabs of Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of Palestine into the Land of Israel."
- [12] The Iron Wall, Vladimir Jabotinsky.
Kushal great job on ignoring ur guest and doing timepass on the side screen.
I really love book of Haris ❤
This is not about religion. The conflict is about land occupied illegally by zionists. Muslims and jews have livzsed inperfect harmony fir generations. Hamas has destroyed number of israeli tanks. They are not teetering. Haris is talking bunk. It is colonial issue.
Im sorry but as horrific and tragic a genocide by famine, it’s not the same thing as targeted, premeditated, physical extermination of an entire people.
are you sure thst the european jews outnumber the asians
15:10 why Israelis talking about greater Israel and taking over Judea and sumaria is not genocidal and river to the sea is?
Allahuakbar
Free Palestine
From World
You shouldn’t bring Harris sultan on your podcast seeing how unhinged Harris sultan’s understanding of Hinduism is. Expected more confidence and wisdom from you
Harris will soften over time. The more contact Harris has with Kushal and other Dharmic people, the faster he will soften.
14:58 no it is not.
15:40 There's no such thing as Arab Jews. We are Mizrahi Jews. Please do not refer to us as Arab. And Jewish claim to this land is not just religious, it's indigenous. Our entire HISTORY as people was created here. Our entire holidays are events that happened in the land of Israel. I know that you are on our side, but it's very frustrating to hear this kind of ignorance...
Dude. You sound like someone who thinks Jesus had blue eyes and blonde hair.😅
There are jews who are Arab.
There are Muslims who are not Arab.
I'm not agree with both of you..... But..... Opposite views are always welcome..... I love book of Haris in Hindi ❤