As a therapist, the normalization of mental illness is draining. Everyone is biologically designed to experience anxiety, depression, anger, changes in mood, and many other symptoms as a means of survival. People need to stop thinking that they have a severe mental illness when it's a normalized response to an identifiable trigger. Not everyone needs therapy, but everyone does need to know how to cope.
@beanicehuman the only time I feel like like testing/therapy is a must is when it comes to people having children. Many people have children that are not at that point in life and need to make sure they are mentally able to handle the pressure of having a child. This is from looking at the highly flawed systems. I have a M.A. in Clinical mental health counseling.
Anxiety has to be one of the excessively diagnosed emotion. Now there is debilitating anxiety which is a diagnosable disorder....most have to former not the later. The former is a natural emotion.
@@derekbeck1982 Most of these subjective conditons are self-reinforcing. Anxiety in particular. If somebody convinces themselves that they are anxious, then they will become anxious. ADHD is a proxy of modern society and social media actively stealing your attention so a lot more people genuinely do have it nowadays given that social media is so prevalent. Most people reading this will have 2 screens in front of their visual field right now but you've not got 4 eyes or ears!
It really bugs me because when you are diagnosed, you feel like everyone is lumping you in with these kinds of people. I don't have tiktok. But I am, as kids these days say, "neurodivergent" lol. I feel like an idiot when i have to tell anyone. We have a new stigma arising 😅
"Has anyone been with a women of colour" is such a weird question to ask people, even if flat out curious. These women are out of touch when it comes to small talk and you can kind of start to see why therapy is their life support.
I thought women of colour and white women are supposed to be equal and stuff , but by listening to these bitches i know understand that you somehow get some advantages when standing by poc women
Yeah it gives off a vibe like they're going to presume you're racist if you say no when it's totally normal that you may have never even had a woman of colour who was even interested in dating you through no fault of your own lol.
It's a lose-lose situation "I won't pick you because you fetishize POC" "I won't pick you because you never tried to date outside your own race, therefore you're a closeted bigot "
I’m African and when I was in high school everyone had to do mandatory 2 sports and a club(debate, drama, chess etc…) after classes per year. This created comradery and no one was ever left behind. This led to school pride and pride in one’s self and one’s achievements (played rugby for my country). It eliminated staying at home and stewing on things unnecessarily cos you had outlets. By 5PM when your parents were done with work you’re exhausted. Your parents take you home and you were ready to crash. That routine did wonders for me and all my peers. Self deletion and violence were not a thing at all. I feel, IMHO, this would do wonders for the US.
Yea I also had a busy schedule and it helped me socialise and become confident. I’m in Africa too but we had it as electives. The first year I didn’t participate, my mental health was in the dumps. I still have friends from that time like 15 years later
Oh wow! That's actually really cool. I'm taking a guess that because of this there was no bullying in your school because everyone socialized with everyone
I’ve seen a lot of girls today blame their cheating and infidelity on “Borderline Personality Disorder” or bipolar disorder etc… its like nah, you’re just a piece of shit
true. i have toxic family members that refuse to talk to my mom because "their therapist told them my mom is bad for them" which is hilarious because its clear as day that my mom is a saint, she just has lots of toxic and jealous family members that hate her. So they lie to their therapists and get told what they want to hear, and they've just become 100x more toxic as a result. Therapy is literally encouraging these type of toxic and manipulative people but no one is talking about that, because they are all the ones going to therapy and claiming how great it is because their therapist believes all their manipulative BS and makes them feel good about themselves for no real reasons.
"My therapist said I have BPD, that means I can't control my temper. You're just going to have to work around it." Put the blame on the other person for not accommodating to your 'disorder'
@@meowcat64 think therapists should 100% have to interview family members to see if they’re getting that weird one-sided story. I’ve had family do that exact same thing.
My mom is a retired therapist and social worker and she even said no one is supposed to be in therapy forever. She basically said therapy is like having a sprained joint. You wear your boot for a few weeks then go to rehab for awhile and then carry on with your life. You wouldn’t stay in physical therapy forever. Eventually you need to get to a point where you don’t sprain your brain in a sense
Yeah, patients tend to believe they don't have to do anything and that a therapist is going to wave a magical wand or say something profound that magically fixes their issues. Therapists just lead you to the door that holds your problems. You've got to be the one to open it, face your issues and deal with them.
Lol yeah like coaching or a rehab group. Its supposed to give you the tools and assistance to get better, unless you’re severely traumatized or getting traumatized every other day there’s no need for it to be a life long thing lmao
This! I think therapy easily borders on becomong a lifelong crutch for people to consistently vent their problems and offset them for a week at a time rather than working through them. I believe individuality is born through personal struggle, the concept of "pressure creates diamonds" and if any human is constantly venting off that personal steam they aren't working towards becoming the next phase of themself through their continued struggles. Not to say this is the truth for all, but theres clearly an over reliance on leaning into your illnesses to appear special rather than overcoming them and actualing becoming a grander version of oneself
I'm a robot 🤖 therapist. Whenever they throw a tantrum and don't do what they're supposed to I throw their asses in teach mode, home them, then send them to a maintenance position. This usually refreshes whatever BS operation they were wrongly trying to execute. I'm running a test trial on humans next week. Since everyone should be in therapy, we have several free appointments open. FANUK, we are here for your brains 🧠...., wellness😈😊
Bruh I’d rather be associated with conspiracy theories than astrology nonsense any day of the week. Last thing I need is another label put on me because I’m female. I’m already embarrassed by the woke feminist trash as it is. ;-;
@@chrisc4507 Do you have so little of a life that you result to cringe, lame, and pathetic insults on the internet to try and piece together that fragile ego that is barely holding on? You call me a pick me girl when I’m the furthest thing from it and you don’t know me at all. Get a hobby instead of sitting in crusty underwear insulting strangers online.
The craziest part of the whole therapy discourse to me is that most people don't even understand that therapy isn't really intended to be permanent. Ideally, you're supposed to graduate from therapy once you've learned all the tools the doctor provides and properly implement them in your life. If you're actually trying to do that, eventually you are supposed to get to a point of not needing anymore
The profit motive drives a lot of disinformation throughout societies. Obviously, “therapists” are gonna be okay with this one because they make their money from it.
In my experience the majority of therapists are pretty much charging you to do what a close friend or family member would traditionally have done for you in listening to your problems with your life without judging you harshly and nothing more. Finding someone actually willing to dig deep and confront you about some of your own issues is rare. If you get one of the former it is understandable how you could be in therapy, it help you feel better yet never actually solve anything and remain in "therapy" indefinitely.
Ya. It’s also really audacious when you think about it considering who can afford therapy and the idea that you think someone is lesser for not having had it.
Not gonna lie most people could use it, it doesn’t have to be some soft ass BS you see on tv. Just make sure yours is willing to call you out on your BS and help you figure out what your doing wrong in life and how to fix it, instead of just sitting their racking up a check while you cry. Some people just use it to affirm themselves and their feelings though I don’t think that does any good.
This. My sister (27 yo) has been on the TikTok diagnosis train for the past year and I try hard not to to beat her over the head with it. I've brought it up to her multiple times but just dismisses it as hate or misunderstanding, so I just let her do her thing. The thing is, we're right to say it's ADHD, or at least symptoms of ADHD. Our content consumption habits have breeded smaller attention spans which in turn causes worse impulse control. Though, we don't need drugs to fix this form of "ADHD."
Going to therapy is becoming the new “getting a college degree”. Everyone is being told to go to it without anyone knowing background, reason, and if you don’t you get looks.
It's always the most mentally unstable and clearly unhealthy people that advocate this aggressively for therapy. Like yeah I'm sure it's worked wonders for you but I'm pretty happy with my life so I don't see a need to change anything.
@@1dingerridk if you realized, but most Americans aren’t exactly enjoying life right now, and a lot of them don’t have the means to go to therapy. Be empathetic.
@blakk6lass I don't need unhappy people telling me how to be happy, that's my point. BTW, most Americans are happy or at least content with life statistically, so you might just be hanging out with sad people.
@@1dingerr I’d love to know how that was measured, and what kind of methods they used to research that, and what range of groups they used class wise. and I’m around all kinds of people usually and don’t limit myself to a “friend group” or anything like that. If you don’t mind, direct me to the study you looked at
I’m American but I’ve lived in Korea for the past ten years and seeing these types of videos- it doesn’t feel real lol like the fact that people like this exist in real life is fascinating to me 🗿
It’s trends and generational behavior mixed in with hyper-communication trough social medias. I’m sure there is some cringy trends that people view as a norm in korea ! (Plastic surgery, k-pop fetishization or school work hours maybe ?). It’s a phenomenon as old as humanity, i’m sure older generations, and a lot of people had the same feeling with rock music and sexual liberation in the 60’s that we have with the mental health focus and social media / streaming obsession of this generation.
My child is a teenager and I had to remind them that feeling nervous sometimes isn't having anxiety. Feeling nervous when big things are happening is the normal response, not a problem to be solved.
@@davidpowers9178 no it’s literally not anxiety comes in all different forms, you don’t know exactly how someone feels, it might be nervousness but to assume you just know exactly how they feel is ignorant.
@@diegosegura7617 we should give time to kids and teenage to learn to deal with their emotions. Therapy It’s needed with dealing with deep évident traumas or certain emotions recurring with time. If the nervous feeling is recurring and the child can’t deal with it than maybe talking to someone is great. But we should all get time to learn how our brain work and body react to our emotions. It’s crazy how people will get a saying in how u should deal with yourself before yourself
@@Omaima782 i totally agree. But you should also not overlook it. I see a lot of comments here “I felt that way before and I just got over it”. No one truly knows what’s going on in someone else’s head
I hate when people say "everyone needs therapy". I went through some real serious stuff earlier in my life, and I say a therapist for two years. She was a highly respected, acclaimed therapist, and after a year and a half she said quote "I don't think you need therapy anymore. It isn't needed for everyone. I think you just need some friends close to your age, who you can relate to." She actually told me to use my money to do other fun things.
Ive been in therapy for years now. I have Intermittent explosive disorder - actually diagnosed. If i dont have therapy to talk to someone during an episode, i would be in the penitentiary. I think therapy is only needed when you have problems functioning in society / everyday life. My IED will never go away, it can only be managed.
Imo everyone does. Need some I don't think you need it for life, but it's good to have a check in every so often. Since there can be things below the surface you think you've dealt with that you haven't. It's not fair to trauma dump on you're friends and family all the time. Of course it's fine to get advice and chat with them, but imo Many if not most should reach out to some degree
@@libertybelllocks7476I'm glad that you took steps to help yourself and that it's beneficial. I agree with your perspective. Best of luck and success to you.
I graduated in psychology way before all this hyper-therapy-popularity came up. And the one thing we were taught is that someone can't stay in therapy for long. At some point as a therapist you have to give that person resources to possibly transfer them to a different therapist who may be better suited to their problem. Which means you can't indefinitely stay. In the western culture, it's like a permanent state. It's totally ok to be "broken" for years. I used therapy when no other resource of my own was helping me get through an issue. I got the assistance I needed for my issue and now I am able to manage on with my own resources and mental equipment should the same struggle rise again. I am for therapy/mental health - but I'm heavily against "the permanent state of therapy". I assure you, of you keep going to the therapist for years, your therapist is just in it for the money from you.
It saddens me that some people are left in a constant state of brokeness. The whole point of therapy is to help someone be able to live their life again and to live a healthy, normal, and balanced life.
It’s not just an obsession with mental health issues.it’s an obsession with sharing your mental health issues with others. Take social media out of the equation and their mental health problems suddenly vanish because they no longer have an audience.
I kind of like that people are more open about their mental health issues. As long as people are being honest and educate themselves about what depression, ADHD, etc are
The everyone needs therapy happened to my nephew. In high school in health class, two designated female students told the other students that everyone with a mental health issue go to one side of the room. And those that don't go to the other. My nephew was the only one that didn't go to the side of having a mental health problem. The two students were aghast and told him that it wasn't possible and started to bully him. His stated he didn't have any depression, anxiety, or any other mental health diagnosis. They told him what do you do when you're sad? His response was " sadness doesn't necessarily equate to depression and if I'm down I have outlets like sports, family, or I pray (I'm not religious but he finds comfort in his)." During covid when a lot of child did start to show signs of mental health distress he was the kid who took up new hobbies and transferred his discomfort into something new. My issue with everyone making mental health a trendy thing seems to devalue the needs of those who actually may have severe triggers or trauma. A lot of my own anxiety and depression I have has been something that I've worked out with a therapist, friends and being retrospective but I'm a different person than my nephew and I wish I had the tenacity that kid has. he does his own thing.
As someone who's taken therapy before, I agree with what Aba said about if you are already doing stuff that helps you mentally, you shouldn't keep seeing a psychologist. I stayed in therapy for 3 months, twice a week, and ever since learning more about myself I don't have to take it again and that was something the therapist herself told me.
Depend what you have, people needing a long term therapy are those with complex ptsd as its extremely hard to heal it on your own . Unfortunately finding a good therapist is hard. So many had been shamed and retraumatised by crap therapist
Before watching this, I was in the "everyone needs therapy" camp because it helped me so tremendously when I started going. Now I realize that most people just need healthy outlets and people they can trust with their emotions and it can have the same effect as visiting a licensed therapist.
I have benefitted from professional therapy in my life, but I'm still of the opinion that a good beer-buddy is the best therapist you can find. IMO a therapist is a substitute, meant for people who lack friends and family to support them.
I thought I needed therapy. Once I stopped smoking weed everyday and exercised regularly, I started to gain a better perspective and outlook. (Not against anyone that smokes weed, I loved it but it wasn’t good for me)
@@cheesesteakphilly this is going to be different for some people though. Not saying you are doing this but a common thing you will hear is people being like "oh you're depressed? Just go gym exercise eat healthily and it will go away!" and while it is true that those things can help if someone actually has depression it won't just disappear.
Yep. There's mental health, and there's mental strenght. I know a man who suffered psychological trauma because physically hurt by some accident at job. He also lost the job (I know, that's suck) his wife cheated and dumped him, lost his house, people looked down to him, and other misfortunes. This guy is my uncle. But my uncle is tough, when other people probaly already break and give up long time ago, he keeps fighting and moving on while diagnosed with depression. He is okay now, new job, new wife (then 3 kids), and new house. When I asked how he went thru all of that, he answered, "I submit to God, asked Him to give me the strenght, and I let go." Then I understand, it's a leap of faith. Our job is simply just don't give up, and let God take care the rest.
My dad spoke to me about having mental strength. It really shows us how people react/handle differently to a high stress situation. You have to be mentally strong/prepared for these scenarios and do ur best move on. Whether is be trauma, car crash, spouse cheating, high stress, failing at something....ect. If you can be mentally strong that's imo the best, but if not then, therapy is right for you.
I’m gonna share some stuff with you guys. I came back from some of my military training and when I was driving back “home” my gf decided to break up text me when I was driving home, kicked me out, and packed my shit. I wasn’t allowed to go there that night. I asked around and I’m couch surfing and trying to figure out what to do. Once I started counting my blessing w/ my friends and family. I hit a deer on the highway one night coming back from a friends place. I don’t have a car now. I’m alive, but I know I can’t just go talk to a therapist about this because I don’t have the income. All I can do is wait. Find a work around for myself and survive until I get ready to deploy. I’m not active duty either so I don’t have any real safety nets anywhere. We all have different struggles but it’s always up to you as an individual to keep moving and to keep learning from everything you go through in life. I hope everyone is doing well here and if anyone wants to vent or talk about something I’m here! We can chat on discord if you guys need to get something off your chest.
I hope you can see how strong you are, in the face of hardship taking every step forward without hurting others is such a hard thing to do. We don’t know what we are made of until we are tested, and I hope you can see, what looks to me, a heart of gold. If you have a faith or prayer life with God I would urge you to read the book or Job, you may find him as a companion to yourself.
I find it so heart warming that you remained humble, grateful and grounded throughout this difficult time in your life!) So many people in this world fall deep into their problems because they remain to only think about them and not about the positives around them. Sometimes focusing on the outside world is what helps us get better. Therapy will only get us so far, but it is God who heals the heart. Remain resilient and put your trust in Him! 🙏
As a budding therapist myself I think everyone should see a therapist multiple times a month Just like I need to pay off student loans, so don’t be ashamed guys your mental health is important 😁
@@jameshill8493 Whenever I feel the need to vent I walk out into the woods, find a nice stick and bash other sticks until I feel better. Works every time.
They dont have that, I am going to speculate that everyone they know are just as superficial as they are. No one actually cares, thats why they need therapy.
Had a younger woman try to argue this with me. I support therapy, but I've never been. I have reliable outlets that help me maneuver through my stresses. But, she also believed that "everyone NEEDS therapy." I ended up responding like Aba mentioned "just because YOU don't know how to handle your stress doesn't mean that nobody else can. You're projecting right now." Needless to say, that didn't last long.
Therapy as we know it is like 200 years old. People act like we haven't been living thousands of years without it. Is it a super important function in society? Of course it is, but it's not the life blood of a mentally healthy person.
i've always said most people could benefit from a type of therapy but have never thought everyone needs it. its good to destigmatize mental health but we dont need to overcorrect and obsess over it.
We've swung the pendulum from mental health being taboo to everyone needing a therapist. There's a balance. The hope for any therapist when working with a client is to work themselves out of a job with that person. In other words, NO not everyone needs one. The ideal is to be able to deal with life's problems in a healthy way
@@AmoebaInk Better to find friends and family then rather than "therapy". If you dont have any friends or family to talk to then thats your main problem.
@@AmoebaInk I just dont understand the desire to talk about ones psychological problems. I almost never talk about such things with other people and I am more than fine mentally. I think it is narcissistic to talk about your feelings to others all the time.
@@AmoebaInk Of course, but still such cases are a small minority. Such people need therapy no question. Look at it this way. When everybody is claiming mental health problems, real mental health problems wont be treated correctly and as seriously as they should. Just like if you call everybody and everything racist. It diminishes real racism and racists which is way worse for the victims.
The problem is I think if you want to make a living you kinda need to appease to your entitled customers. Otherwise they aren't coming back or it may damage your Reputation. People hate being told the truth😂
It's ironic because for a generation to be so obsessed with mental health, the outcome is they end up needing more mental health help than before. It's really not that complicated. Stop giving a shit about what others think or say and build your world view on the simple strong foundations that society used to have when mental health wasn't such an issue. Things like family, community, and touching grass. Spend less time on social media and comparing yourself to fake people you see online.
Agree to disagree. The idea of mental health a hundred years ago was unheard of. The reason mental health has become such a talked about topic is because the medical field has finally caught up to it. Back then if you were suicidal Doctors would have chalked it down to a physical issue rather than a mental one. You aren't wrong though, social media is a fucking cancer. That's why I stopped watching RUclips shorts, because I felt like my brain was turning into a slushy. I feel as though social media is distracting people from having person to person interactions which would help with mental health. Everyone needs someones shoulder to cry on every now and again but it feels like everyone's face is buried in their phones.
@Slimey_garbage_troll I had a bad experience with a douchebag therapist as a young teen and it put me off from therapy for a long time but going to a faith based counselor in my 20s helped me overcome a lot of stuff buried deep down that affected my relationship with my family and education/work life. All this to say don't give up on it and it may take a few misses before you finally hit the right person to seek counsel from. God bless you my friend✝️
@@1.21gigawatts2Well the argument would simply be that life was simpler in the sense you knew what you had to do. Family and community was your outlet for any and all things. So I completely reject the idea that because nobody understood modern concepts of mental health therefore we don't know if people were actually mentally healthy. Everything about our culture should make people unwell. So in a lot of ways I'm surprised it's not worse. The further we go down this road of individualism and away from family and community the worse it's going to be. Especially if we continue to engage with social media like we currently do.
I'm glad I actually went to the doctors and they gave me a diagnosis. Serious Bi Polar Depression, Anxiety and Alcoholism. I feel like Gen Z is gonna be the generation that (for now) are complaining about hardship but will face true hardship in the years to come.
@@FunkSwaggMusiKGen Z does have hardship, but it's not as abrasive or violent as previous generations. The war of this generation is Ego and Insecurity, the social media war.
If you think about it, I think it ties into the notion of American Individualistic ideals. We all want to be unique and distinguished. This is it's worst manifestation of it
Too many young people think your supposed to be happy all the time. When you supposed to have all the emotions...your supposed to feel sad when something makes you sad, you're supposed to feel scared when something is dangerous and supposed to be happy when something makes you happy or you accomplished something. Having pain and different emotions let's you know your body and brain are working as their supposed to. Good luck out there everyone!
Yes, true. These different emotions and experiences help us to mature and to become resilient. If we did not have complex emotions and challenges we would never grow, and the older you get the more challenging life becomes. It's only when it becomes a disruption in your life that one should actively seek therapy.
I have a gf that was diagnosed with bpd at 13 and was immediately put on heavy doses of psychosis medication. Her father gaslighting therapist and psychiatrist into the diagnosis. She was helpless until she could now at 20 be actual listened to and they removed the diagnosis. I don’t think people know how detrimental that medication can be on a growing child. With the way things are going I see a lot of parents and children experiencing the same thing….Get healthy, everyone isn’t mentally ill. Learn how to cope in a healthy way so your children can adopt those coping mechanisms.
Jeeeeeez. It's really frowned upon to diagnose young people with personality disorders, since their personalities are still forming. There's stats to show that when teens are diagnosed, less that half of them still fit the criteria within two years. It's just teens exhibiting teen behaviour. Fear of rejection? Emotional disregulation? Black and white thinking? We can't hold them to the standard of adults. Also, medication is minimally effective for PDs.
As a borderline, BPD is a serious disorder not to be taken lightly, it’s often caused by constant and consistent trauma and abuse. I don’t think I understand your story, are you saying she was misdiagnosed or her father pressured them into the diagnosis? Not trying to be dumb just genuinely trying to understand, I hate the stigma we get. 🌸
@Letsnotforget I'd love to read a source on that. Ive gone through probably half a dozen therapists in my life, and only one or two were actually helpful, and one or two may have been more detrimental. I found more help from a youtube psychologist talking about different topics than I did any in person therapist. I just... Learned how my brain functions, learned how other people function, and started applying it to my life. Nowadays, I regret ever going to therapy, because its going to show up on my medical record when I go try to get a private pilots license.
I love how the floor squeaking is like a third person now. It adds so much without saying anything. It lets you marinate/reflect in what was said for a second.
I went to therapy in college because i didnt have a support system and was suicidal.i experienced SA recently, and i tried going to therapy again because i could feel those feelings return. But the therapist i spoke to just told me things i already knew and took me down a route of forgiveness instead of understanding my anger. I figured things out better on my own.
I hope you are doing better and get better every morning you wake up. I also found it disturbing when I noticed people just want to jump to forgiveness and are less and less understanding of allowing people avenues to vent their anger. It was almost like anyone who wants to vent is violent, even when the venting is not hurtful to others. I hope you find a therapist that could just listen instead of jumping to fix you and let you forgive immediately. I think finding healthy outlets to vent emotionally is also therapeutic
So true! My issue with therapy is that I always feel coddled. I went to try to better understand the things I was doing and why I was making the choices I was making, and a lot of therapists just say “it’s not your fault”. Uhhh yes lady, it is 100% my fault, I’m an adult. Thankfully I found a therapist who balances accountability with empathy. I don’t see her often, but I’m more comfortable venting to a stranger then I am dumping all my problems on the people around me. PS I’m so sorry that happened to you, I hope you find some Justice in what happened to you.
Similar experience here. Most ppl would benefit more by spending time reflecting on their life & looking for solutions than spending that time on a therapist. Rarely does someone legitimately need an expert for consultation. It's like paying an hourly to a lawyer for advice about your daily schedule.
Honestly the idea that everyone has some deep seeded trauma, everyone has a past, everyone has something they need psychological help with is such a big projection. A lot of people live their life as is, whether they had a perfect childhood or not. Not everything requires a deeper psychological lense into how you feel. Especially when your words & actions show you're content with who you are.
People like you say that out of complete ignorance. Most people have no idea how toxic people are and relationships are, and it’s almost always connected to your childhood. It’s not “projection” and people would do so much better if they would be aware of these things but they have no clue. You are literally the example. And the people liking your comment and other people commenting on this Video also. You are likely literally the group of people that could benefit greatly from it. My god people
You are right about the whole fake empathy thing. They are the most closed minded AND condescending, virtue signaling, paternalistic or more often than not maternalistic hypocrites.
People say they need therapy, but they know they can't afford it, so it becomes a crutch for why they act like assholes since it's not in their budget because god forbid they cut out the streaming services or food delivery apps.
I'll take that trend... Cuts down on child abuse, teen pregnancies, school shootings, drug consumption, cultural differences and how to deal with others, etc... let them go.
True, however I think most people if not everyone would benefit from therapy. It’s not “how do you feel blah blah blah” it can be if that’s what you want though. Mine was covered by insurance I only had to pay 10-20 bucks a visit. Literally just an honest conversation about what’s going on and where you wanna be in a deeper more honest way then you can with other people. And I make sure they are willing to tell me I’m full of sh*t and tell it to me straight. These soft people giving therapy a bad name, everybody could use somebody honestly sizing up their situation and calling them out on their BS.
I agree with Youssef, as someone who constantly goes into nature to heal and get away from it all you don't have to be online or in person talking to a therapist. Gardening can be your therapy, hiking and exploring nature can be as well. There are so many health benefits to just being in nature especially if you go barefoot in the dirt. Plus in gardening alone there are so many lessons you can learn like consistency with watering and weeding. With weeding it reminds you to remove people or things from you life that are there to steal nutrients. With adding produce scraps and egg shells to put nutrients in sometimes the lowly viewed things can breathe life into you.
As someone who actually suffers from anxiety and depression, I find it alarming how many people are not only self diagnosing but labelling everyone around them with normal human reactions as narcissists. Anxiety and depression seem to be a flex or something more than a mental health issue. I can’t really say it is a generational thing because I felt like therapists have always been over used in the US. I remember growing up hearing about rich people having pet psychologists. 😅
People want validation that their emotions and feelings are real. And some how decided that the only thing that makes them "valid" and "real" is if it has a medical term.
@@denzellima3079 I'm betting she's exactly the same as the girls in this vid and just using it to flex. "Not me, I'm special." Reddit bleeding over into YT.
As a therapist myself, I would say everyone should be OPEN to therapy, but not that everyone NEEDS it. It's not for everybody and that's okay. Sometimes therapy is just about learning healthy coping mechanisms to deal with life stressors. Or even just to learn about about what you may be going through (disorders, symptoms, problematic patterns of behavior, etc.). Other times it can be about helping to heal trauma. But therapy is definitely not the end all be all of mental health. This is not even to mention that some therapists are absolutely awful at their jobs and can do more harm than good. Bonus rant: I seriously dislike how the societal intent shifted from bringing awareness to mental illness, to glorifying mental illness. It's pretty gross to see.
Yep, everything is about the money and fame these days, it seems. Nothing is genuine or stays sincere with the best intentions getting carried out anymore.
As someone with a true set of mental disorders. It really is sickening how people treat it nowadays. It really undermines people with real disorders. You'll have people that's never experienced any true form of trauma (privileged) naming all sorts of these 'illnesses' that they have. I still don't know what the hell I'm doing with myself. But, I used to wake up, trapped in an old play that's happened years ago. Violently shaking from side to side when I was 19-21. I couldn't work, I couldn't do anything with myself. I felt super trapped in my head and I felt a million times heavier then I do nowadays. My chest always felt like it was going to explode and it'd cause extreme shortness of breath. You have people experiencing things like this. Meanwhile, you've got people claiming to have all these disorders likes it's all fun and games. When in reality. You wish you're dead. It's not cool.
Therapy wasnt really something i could afford to regularly, but it was really good at nailing down ocd I developed around middle school. I was taught tricks to cope with certain habits of mine sadly i havent been able to fully get rid of any though i have several times managed to successfully substitute old habits with a new one. Tbh tried to suppress my ticks a while ago and nearly had a mental breakdown with most of my old ticks reemerging. Didnt even last a week before that happened which really sucked.
@@mrpopularfromdowntow Naw, this is a reaction to all of the generations of families who didnt care about their mental health. Since we live in a world thats slowly normalizing talking about mental health now its easy to forget that just about 20 years ago families would bypass the convo completely.If you looked at how mfs in the 60's - 90's handle mental health it makes a lil more sense why people go so hard now lhh
It’s shameful, embarrassing, and disrespectful how Gen Z introduces themselves through their often self diagnosed mental health disorders like it’s cool, trendy and something to be proud of. Their are people that actually have to deal with these disorders that destroy their lives almost every moment of everyday and they treat it like it’s a fun board game.
True shit. I spent all my life until now (I'm 20) hiding my mental health issues because my male role models showed me to never share negative emotions/problems. I grew up with a sense of thinking that if you did have mental health issues (or any emotional problems) that you were weak, not a man, looking for attention etc. (And I used to actually shame people for it too, maybe i was subconsciously trying to make myself believe that shit but idk) And that was definitely a factor but the other big factor was so many peers on the internet and in school mentioned so casually how they have depression and/or anxiety but they functioned so well everyday, had lots of friends, and went to parties held part time jobs, actually took part in school activities. It made me think that i was too weak for the problems i was having. But keeping shit like that to yourself really wears down the body and mind and at least for me, stole my childhood years from me. Funny thing is that this video came out about 2 weeks after I started receiving the help I need after a huge breakdown I had.
Aba took the words right outta my mouth. Therapy is a privilege and in my home country of Ecuador you best believe people who have struggles these girls could never even imagine, don’t have the money or resources to see a therapist. It’s such a western mind set that you need other people to help fix your problems for you, when in reality as the other guy said, you can have ways to cope like hobbies or stepping outside or whatever it is
Somehow people survived for all of human history without therapists just fine. Living in easy times has made people mentally weak, and it isn't even their fault to a degree.
"It’s such a western mind set that you need other people to help fix your problems for you" omgosh... EXACTLY! Not just when it comes to dealing with our personal problems, but on the grander scale too. I guess it goes back to outsourcing our personal problems to institutions and politicians and so on. I'm not saying not to help each other as human beings, rather, see what I can do about it first - and if I can't, it's ok to ask for help, but it doesn't have to be done in the exact way other people tell you it should be.
Honestly thats exactly how it is. I think a lot of people want someone to fix the problem for them, or they want a scapegoat to blame when it doesn’t work. Plus its like a personality trait to go see a therapist
I've been to therapy. Therapy definitely helps when you're struggling emotionally to the point where you're at an impasse where unresolved issues are negatively impacting different aspects of your life. That being said, if you don't have anything that is seriously troubling you, youre not going to get anything out of a therapy session. Therapy really is for when you are falling into negative habitual behaviors, or chronically experiencing emotions that are out of control. You don't need it if you can work through it in other ways.
I never understood the need for therapy without trauma but it seems to be the "in" thing with this generation. All their friends go so they go and just tell the therapist about their boring day and idk I guess the therapist asks questions until they find something they can pull strings at.
@humphreybogart2094 well the idea of, "let's talk about mental health" is a laudable one, especially amongst men, but that has somehow transformed into "in order to be mindful of your mental well-being, you MUST go to therapy"
Facts, I'm in therapy currently but I actually had an abusive childhood and experienced trauma from overseas deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. I can't imagine why an average person would need therapy and what they would even talk about
As someone in their early 20's who's surrounded by people who deal with mental health issues and constantly see a therapist, a common trend I've noticed is they live in a cycle of repeating the same bad habits and not making any actual changes outside of talking to a therapist. You're obviously going to feel like shit and have a bad mental state when you don't do any actual work outside of therapy.
What I’ve noticed, therapy is like a confessional for them. They continue to do the dumb shit, but it’s all good because “I see a therapist and talk about it with them.” Poof, the same damn bad habits are magically forgotten and they believe they get a clean slate until the next appointment. It’s strangely like a religion for some of them. Just like how some of the women in this video act over the guy who doesn’t go to therapy, it’s like they’re shocked and think the guy is just ~lost~ because they’re not on the enlightened path of therapy like they are lol.
My theory is people stay in the cycle of therapy so they don't HAVE to do the work. They just want to introspect and analyze forever and to them that's all the progress they need. It's like when young people talk about their red flags, to them it shows maturity and self awareness but it actually shows there's no self awareness or accountability because if there was then they would fix it instead of "owning" it.
THIS!!! The most unhealthy and straight up malicious people love to use that they are in therapy to excuse their horrible behaviors. I see more and more young people using therapy jargon to intellectualize their shitty behaviors and refuse to take responsibility for their actions. If you are spending thousands on therapy but refuse to actually do the work to change your behaviors and only use it as an excuse to talk about yourself... You can be just as unhealthy as someone who's never even read about self help/therapeutic tools. Some people are healthy without it and good for them! Like they said, it's a privilege to be able to afford help and no one should be judged for not having access to it.
as an actual therapist (disclaimer, I'm in no way attempting to diagnose them as this is just a superficial viewing of their lives and personalities) this is not uncommon. these girls have formed an identity and self worth through therapy. It's not unlike people finding cliques and tribalistic groups in any other facet of life. You're a jock, you're an intellectual bookwork, etc etc....they found some sort of meaning and identity in therapy and now thei life revolves around it. I see it all the time these day. People looking for meaning and their place in life, only to misplace it in the process. It's mentally draining to try and navigate with these people. Especially the last generation who seems OBSESSED with freaking out over every bit of anxiety, or stress in their lives, even though humans will ALWAYS struggle with these things. Many people can benefit from therapy (not just tooting my own horn), but not everyone NEEDS to be in therapy. Therapy can take many forms, and reality "therapy" is simply an outside perspective meant to give someone a helping hand. Not the some guru who opens up your life. A family member who is older and wiser than you can give a form of therapy, as can many other things in life. Sometimes a psychologist is needed when you're in too deep and need someone who specializes in navigating some of these issues. But holy freaking crap!!!! therapy is not a necessity all around the clock. STOP MAKING YOUR WHOLE IDENTITY AROUND MENTALL CONDITIONS!!
I just think it's weird that they would OUT someone who can self regulate who says their ok with themselves. It's almost like hearing Christians calling everyone a sinner and someone says I am OK I am not sinning. And them saying your going to hell for saying that! You are sinning! It's so weird. (I am Christian btw but ive meet these extremist sorts) I think these girls have some major insecurity issues about themselves. And they see someone as "ok" as a threat to the way their group views the world. That guy was cute, and seemed healthy and calm. You can tell he benefitted from being the outdoorsy type. It's like equating "I am broken" to "maturity". He doesn't need "help" some people are stoic and mature in themselves. They want some one to heal and save. I often want a calm strong man to save me 😂😂😂
THIS!! people don’t get that the therapist is there to ask the correct questions to get yourself to figure out your own shit (if you are self reflective enough).. but they think it’s some magical guru that will dissolve all their mental real and imaginary issues 😂
THANK YOU! i dont know why its nice to hear that some ppl in the other chair also is getting tired of the BS. and yalls pay is even somewhat improoved the more fakers there are (more patients more job opportunity that is) xD but correct me if im wrong. im guessing that having normal ppl in the chair is quite boring and provides no challenge ?
@@Ntwister it depends. normal people are more satisfying in many ways because you see more happy results. the more "odd" or "extreme" patients can be very challenging to work on, but also be very difficult and trying with less stellar results. Since my focus was on marital counseling as a psychologist (personal is ALWAYS included in marital counseling, but it's always a focus on relationships vs. just being a private practice personal psychologist) you get a lot more satisfactory results with "normals".
I also feel like everyone self-diagnosing and this normalization of “everyone has some sort of mental illness” has a bad effect for those who really do have severe illnesses. I am diagnosed with anxiety, depression, and borderline personality disorder. It’s been over a year since I got diagnosed with BPD. I hate sounding dramatic, but the truth is I struggle almost every single day and have troubles controlling my emotions and thoughts. I have so many trauma responses that I’m still realizing I have, especially once it’s too late and I’ve done some damage in my life. These things affect my body and physical health. And I feel like sometimes when I am genuinely struggling and am at the edge, it’s so common now that people will say “well everyone has problems”. There’s this downplaying of those who truly struggle to live everyday lives and constantly feel like giving up, but it’s such a crushing feeling when someone brushes off a very real and potentially dangerous moment.
i also got a bpd diagnosis. everyone is "supportive" until you display symptoms (even if it's very minor, like, one single off day where you're having a harder time controlling your emotions or whatever), then suddenly you're "so toxic", "narcisistic", "displaying abusive behavior", yadda yadda yadda. anyways, im exhausted with this generation as a whole, been off social media for 3 years now (going on 4 next month) and even tho ive been lonely, at least im not being treated badly for every mistake (mistakes that everyone else makes frequently, btw. haven't done anything "omg so crazy" in a loooong while). well, im a psych major and i hate most things about it but maybe I'll be able to change it from the inside out? idk, i just want to help the people who are actually struggling. i think now im just rambling so imma stop but i hope i made even just a lick of sense haha
Take it from an aging borderline that was diagnosed nearly 20 years ago. Recognizing that our feelings (no matter how intense) are fleeting can help you before you act on them in the moment can curb some terrible behaviors before they take place. You'll find you like yourself a lot more when you don't have to apologize for bad behaviors/words so often. They're lots of studies that support that those with bpd can actually age out of some of the characteristics, too.
I spent years “working on my mental health”. Only when I disciplined myself via diet, sleep & exercise did I finally make huge strides and largely overcome my anxiety and depression. Sometimes your anxiety is there to help you, to tell you it’s time to make changes in your life. Listen to it before you resort to numbing your emotions with pills. It saved my life it could save yours too ✊🏼
I agree with you to an extent. A huge part of working on your mental health is improving and gaining good habits. A lot of depression and anxiety symptoms can be remedied with healthy habits, but I think because so many people self diagnose and self medicate or only go to a doctor for medication, they don’t learn strategies to manage their symptoms, and they don’t learn that a huge part of managing their symptoms is the tedious, life improving tasks you have to do. For me, having a therapist is what helped me learn the combination of strategies and habits I needed to mitigate my symptoms. Diet, sleep and exercise are huge parts, but I don’t think they’re the only parts.
I was an instructor at a nursing school. And I taught mental health nursing among other subjects. I was honestly astonished at the number of students who would openly discuss their mental health and the medications and therapies they are participating in. I applauded them for getting help where needed, but I also felt as if it was a designer drug of sorts, or en vogue to say that they had "bipolar disorder" or to disclose the multiple psychiatric medications they were on. I still think about these students to this day and wonder if they truly got the help they needed or if public disclosure was a vice of sorts?
it was LITERALLY like that 25 years ago, people were literally BRAGGING about their "mental health conditions" and the pills they got. They would talk about it with a smug arrogance.
I know this has nothing to do with this topic, but it reminds me of when I was in school, they'd brag about how long we stayed up and what time they went to sleep. Lmao. Sleep is important.
Because intersectionality has created oppression olympics where many people can't move up regularly on the oppressed hierarchy so they take the "I'm mentally ill" approach.
I've been to psycholgists and therapists, and it personally never worked for me. I even tried different therapists to find one that would fit me better. After a while I just realized it wasn't for me, and found other therapeutic outlets. I don't understand how mental health is suppose to be complex according to these people, yet they prescribe a one-size-fits-all solution of "everyone needs therpy" to their peers. Perfect logic.
I think they prescribe it because, in therapy, you'll get a custom solution. With a good therapist, you'll find out what's wrong with you specifically and how to deal with it.
If you’re a guy it could explain it a lot of therapists are very female oriented more or less venting versus what males need which is venting a little having your emotions explained to you and then building a detailed game plan to solve the problem
I have depression. I've never blamed it for my bad actions. I blame it for my mood and my state of mind and take responsibility for how I deal with it. I try as hard as I can to do as little harm to others as possible. When someone says they are depressed because they're a little bummed out it diminishes what I go through, and people take my depressive episodes (which are awful and I can't help it when it happens) way too lightly.
That's just it. People that DO suffer from mental illnesses will be the first ones to tell you that they don't want them. They would be the first ones to tell you the struggles of having to live your life with your own worst enemy in your own head. If people truly saw what it was like, they wouldn't want to experience it at all.
How about the fact most of these people act like it's all on the same level. I'm depressed so that means I know exactly how you feel. Meanwhile I'm having episodes where I'm balling my eyes out and planning on how to kill myself.
Same. What’s hard is when people tell me I have so much to be grateful for. It makes me feel worse. We don’t do this on purpose and if we could end it for good we would. Stay strong. ❤
I myself had depression a few years ago and it's not something I wish upon anyone. People will always say think of things that make you happy and its like ya those things aren't making me happy nothing does. I remeber going to bed I would be praying that I would wake up in someone else's body. No one really gets what it is until they go through it
@@dianac846 and see, that is what true depression is like. It's like having a switch welded closed in your head. A switch that allows nothing but feelings of dread, self-doubt, and other bad thoughts through.
I sometimes wonder if giving every mental state a name only makes people give up on fixing the issues, thinking it's a sickness anyway so they can't be fixed.
Aba brought up a very good point, it is dangerous to perpetuate this notion that you NEED therapy because people who can’t afford it will immediately adopt the mindset that they are screwed in life and cannot overcome mental obstacles themselves. A large portion of the population cannot afford therapy. I know this first hand, I tried therapy for a bit and a legit psychologist with a PhD will run you around $225-250 a session in Canada. Even with employer health insurance you won’t be able to go to more than a handful of sessions
I had the audacity to try getting a therapist as one of my resolutions this year. Six months later, I'm still wrestling with $1500 in medical bills for about two hours of talking to people (no actual therapy, just expressing that I'd like some)
This video was really intriguing to me. As someone who went to therapy for a couple months due to anger issues and having to deal with anger management that was caused by a traumatic event, I 100% agree with Aba and Preach. The whole experience for me felt repetitive because I realized all the answers were already in front of me and that I didn’t have to REALLY go to therapy, it just helped open my eyes and gave me a pathway to better myself. It’s annoying seeing so many people flex they are in therapy because a lot of the times (like others have commented) they don’t even need it. If people changed their diet, changed the media and news they digested and were more social, I’m sure a lot more people would not need therapy.
@Ungabunga.44 What? It doesn't magically go away one day. You learn how to live despite it, how to prevent it from crippling you by developing methods of coping or working through its spikes.
OMG....I'm so glad someone finally said this!! I'm in no way against therapy or acknowledging that mental illnesses can't occur. (My parents come from a generation and background that doesn't buy into psychological issues & care). However, I believe that this newer generation AND some Millennials are romantizing mental health issues like it's a fad or trend. I've been noticing this for the past 3 or 4 years. Like, that's so weird to me. Almost like it's a badge of honor to not be able to cope with the simplest uncertainties and struggles of life. Get therapy if you absolutely need it but don't make it trend....which ultimately devalues it.
as someone who watched my father go through a messy divorce and try and get given therapy to help himself mentally, it did nothing for him and made him a sadder person, we got him back into his hobbies and other outlets and it benefitted him so much better than sitting in a room talking about stuff that was getting him no where.
Thats what i tell my family all the time. They say i have mental issues and i should see a therapist but when i go and talk about my issues i never leave feeling better. Infact i usually spend the rest of the day hyper focusing on my issues and just get worse mentaly.
I find it so hilarious when people say everyone needs therapy, yet they don't accept the different forms of therapy. I used to work in Social Service Work and amongst many therapists. The people in the field are a lot more diverse than before, and are the first to admit, that conventional therapy doesn't work for everyone. One of the primary questions asked is about channeling emotions or dealing with difficult thoughts and situations... Many of the suggestions are expressing self through Art (which for a long time wasn't considered a form of therapy, until they were forced to recognize the successful impact it had), journaling, finding places that bring you peace (ie. Nature), and most importantly through discussion with someone you're comfortable with. The worry with regards to opening up/discussing certain things is that you and the person speaking, have to know how far to go, or it can be harmful to the person opening up. It takes time and patience. This notion that everyone needs therapy is true, but at different stages and in different forms. I hope that people can stop forcing it on others and then dismissing them because they don't find a need for it at the moment, because guess what, that leads to harming someone.
I was court ordered to go to therapy. Was in there for 2 years and it was extremely counterproductive for me. I'm over analytical, so every hour of therapy was equal to a week's worth of over thinking and being stagnant. Getting a life coach propelled my life forward because I was being active and constantly putting things in action. Not just talking
Your therapist should have been giving you actionable advice and real world skills. Frankly your therapist sucked. Like if your therapist sees you have issues setting boundaries, they should assist in developing the skills and knowledge necessary for you to set boundaries in real world situations. Glad you found a life coach that did what your therapist should have.
Therapists are essentially people who give you a perspective on what's going on with your mind/your life. You can get similar kind of feedback from wise people, religion, books, even stories. You don't have to fork out $100 for 1 hour to chat with a psychologist when you can find other resources for free.
"EVERYONE NEEDS A THERAPIST!" is like "original sin" in religion. Somehow even if you are just an innocent person who has not committed any crimes, you still need some other person to tell you how to be correct. No one is perfect, but we can't just say everyone is broken.
You don’t need to have committed any crimes to benefit from therapy. People act like something has to be defective about you to get therapy but thats just their projection of their own beliefs
Two completely different things. Everyone has sinned, so you need a savior since just one means you’re corrupted and need Jesus. Big difference from saying everyone needs to go to a psychologist. No one is innocent in the Christian sense. Everything from just looking at someone with lust to lying once means you’re barred from Heaven without Jesus. If you can say you’ve never sinned, which is impossible, then you can say you are innocent in the Christian sense.
Ive found that the "empathy"/ empath people are some of the most toxic selfish people on the planet. They hyper focus on empathy, but miss out on SYMPATHY.
@@rahafalkhaldi1897I noticed people often don't know the differences of these words. To empathize with someone means that you have actually experienced something similar to them, thus you can understand what they are going through. To sympathize with someone means that most likely you haven't experienced what they experienced but you still can understand why they may feel or do the things do because of whatever happened; can also call it pitying someone. Now someone who claims to be an empath is someone can take someone's else emotions and go through those same emotions. Like think of when you are with someone for long time and start talking in similar way that they talk. Empaths take on the emotions of other people, so if someone is sad they will be sad and so on...
100% the reason why is because they usually aren't empathetic at all. People forget that it's not about just going through similar things, it's also about understanding. Unfortunately these young people these days truly lack understanding yet like to use all these mental health buzz words. Like if you claim everyone needs therapy then you are lacking in understanding, because therapy are for people that are unable to find mental peace in themselves through their own methods.
sympathy means to feel sorry for or pity, it’s more condescending and judgmental. Empathy is the kinder more helpful because it involves putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.
In my experience people who go on and on about empathy tend to weaponize it like "oh I would feel empathy in this situation but I guess I'm a good person" in a sarcastic tone
I sought therapy for my hardships. He didn’t tell me anything new or changed how I handle myself or interact with others. He simply agreed and encouraged what I was doing. After a few months I stopped scheduling, it was at least good to know. But never believed it’s necessary for everyone.
Today people are too comfortable using mental health buzzwords like narssist, anxiety or OCD or even self diagnosis which ruins the meaning. Just because you met a selfish asshole doesn’t mean they are narcissistic, or just because you do some things a little off doesn’t automatically make you autistic. Mental health has turned into a competition to make people feel more important. It used to be to post on Instagram for the likes but now it is to see how many mental health badges you can get to garner the most sympathy and get social brownie points
I think everyone has turned into a wanna be psychologist. I almost dated a girl who had saved an entire list of self-diagnosed conditions and tendencies that I should read up on before dating her.
it's not about feeling important. It's about feeling happy that they feel happy to feel they can blame an so called "uncontrollable" reason for why they act up in society or do weird things.
Psychology is the new Astrology. While psychology at least has a little evidence behind some of it, the people talking about it don't actually seem to understand it.
I'm a robot 🤖 therapist. Whenever they throw a tantrum and don't do what they're supposed to I throw their asses in teach mode, home them, then send them to a maintenance position. This usually refreshes whatever BS operation they were wrongly trying to execute. I'm running a test trial on humans next week. Since everyone should be in therapy, we have several free appointments open. FANUK, we are here for your brains 🧠...., wellness😈😊
I work with a female who, whenever someone gives her advice or pulls her up for messing up she starts crying. So much so that when the boss spoke to her she said she'd top herself if she lost her job. Everyone avoids her. Yes, she has serious issues but through the years she has weapnoised it to insulate her from perceived threats. Its fked.
Your boss is wrong for letting her blackmail him like that into keeping her job. I make it very clear to anyone who weaponizes suicide threats that it doesn't work on me. I will do what I do, and if you end your own life that's on you. Let them know you'll have zero guilt over it. You'd be upset, obviously, but not responsible.
@@zusk8556 i hear ya. The worst thing is we work in a high risk industry. Coal seam gas. She drives a truck. We've all expressed our frustrations to various ppl in management, they're at a loss as to what to do. They're not just worried about her 'threat' but the litigation if they move her on. Shes in her 50s too so its a tool she has finely tuned over the years. Im actually the mental health first aider and i stay well clear of her. She doesn't want to confront things so i cant help her 2023 feelings trump safety. It sure will be interesting to see how it plays out
I was clinically diagnosed with depression and social anxiety, but I hated my first therapist. I also can no longer afford it, so I’ve found other outlets to help. I love journaling or meditating and doing yoga. I advocate from therapy, but I don’t think it’s always a necessity.
The fact that you cannot afford it does not take away the fact that it's a necessity. The problem is that healthcare coverage does not fully take into account legitimate needs such as therapy.
@@hcironman9196 well I guess now we need to define "necessity". I would say that on a social level, healthcare in general is indeed a necessity that everybody should have access to, right? The fact there are coping mechanisms available in absence of healthcare do not negate its need. I think the same applies to mental healthcare, a.k.a. therapy
I drive rideshare and on the back of my headrests I have the stickers "I am not a licensed therapist....but im willing to listen. No copay/fees, 100 percent confidentiality, who's gonna know". Ive learned that some people really just want someone to " hear them out "and/or offer some good open minded, non bias advice versus judging them, jumping to conclusions, or being a cruel person gaslighting them. We all have things going on in our lives and sometimes... we all just need a good ear to hear us out to " restore our calm". Someone is going to see this and know exactly who I am
As someone who has been diagnosed with BPD, I completely agree with everything you've said! Some people have NO IDEA what true mental illness is and they throw things around just to sound "apart of" and it's bullshit because people with SERIOUS issues like i have can't reach doctors because "sad" people run to hospitals and places taking up space just because they might be at a low point. Everyone wants a disorder or illness nowadays its truly devastating because I would do ANYTHING to change having my mental health issues! ❤ love you guys 😊
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My brother has bpd and I’ve seen him at his worse, it’s super distressing especially since atm he can’t even afford to see his therapist, this shit pisses me off so bad. Especially when they just stereotype with their google searched symptoms 🤦🏽♀️
Therapy is for people struggling to cope or make sense of stuff they are struggling with. I go to therapy because I struggle with forming good habits, coping with stress, and low self esteem. My therapist doesn’t do “inner child work”…. She helps me develop a routine for chores, work productivity, she taught me breathing exercises for when I feel overwhelmed. For self esteem she gives me journaling prompts and we do affirmations together. She also talks me through scenarios I bring up to her that highlight my self esteem issues and she gives me her perspective so I can think about myself and my actions in more positive way. We don’t do woo woo shit, it’s all very practical. Some people do don’t struggle with self esteem or already know healthy ways to cope with life so they don’t really need therapy.
The only people who need “inner child work” are those who had traumatic childhoods. If you had a normal childhood, you don’t need to focus on it. Too many people these days make different mental health issues “a trend” and it just harms people even more. I’m glad you’ve figured out what’s best for you.
@@kadebebesis4204 Exactly. Therapy is great. I would recommend it to anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s NEEDED for everyone. I have tremendous admiration for people who have developed healthy coping mechanisms on their own and can regulate their emotions, who have high confidence.
I appreciate that you wrote that to express that your therapy was needed or important but in my opinion it sounds like you just need good friends or a circle that can hold you accountable
I spent 25 years of my 37 year life, with a "best friend" claiming he was BPD. I was diagnosed with BPD 3 years ago, and realized that my so called best friend has NPD and Bipolar. he was using me and my mental state to mimic my personality. he wouldn't ever self harm or admit his own faults, it was always everyone around him that was wrong, never him. in the last year or so I have been taken accountability of my own self, and I agree, that we all need an outlet but some of us truly need a Psychologist. your guys are awesome and love to hear your points of view. Keep it going, woot!
As someone who was depressed, having an outlet for your stress is the number one thing to help someone get over that. You wanna be happy in life? You need a hobby to help relieve stress. Also talking about your feelings helps. Those two things combined is what helped me. It wasn’t going to a therapist.
Therapy doesnt really do anything for me at all, its not bad or anything just useless. My most useful things by far were not being stubborn and a hippy bore about trying medications to see what worked for me (sertraline/citalopram) and exercise, generally while camping out in the woods. exercise is powerful because it can pull you out of a depressive episode nearly straight away.
Everyone can benefit from therapy but not everyone "needs" it. Everyone doesn't necessarily relate to talk therapy either. I'm a clinician and I feel like mental health is being pushed too much. Its not the be all and end all.
Let me be clear, this is about as typical of Seattle as it gets. I’ve lived here my whole life, and over the past 10 years, Seattle basically changed into a giant pile of people like this. Everybody has a personality, but makes it their goal to make sure that everybody knows exactly what their personality is, and why it’s justified, rather than just being happy with themselves and others.
I'm from spokane and unfortunately a lot of these MF's are headed here now 😒 Don't get me wrong it's not nearly as bad as Seattle thank god, but still worse than 5 years ago
Man, lived in washington for 20 plus years. It's like this all over. I'm currently trying to figure out a way to gtfo because it's not as chill and laid back people say it is. And don't even get me started on trash the dating life is here as a straight dude. The ladies here are straight up unpleasant, unapproachable and immature.And then trying to make friends is a bitch and a half as because it seems like every one is fake af and then to top it all off,you have to deal with head cases like some of the people in this video. My overall opinion : fuck washington state.
All the weirdos have been flooding into what was once a normal city over the last decade. That’s all this is. Lived here my whole life. The people from Seattle are not like this. It’s the fucking transplants who can’t freely be weird in their home towns. Seattle has become a haven for weirdos and bums.
As a therapist said therapy is really just listening to someone and not judging them. And its something that really should be done, in an ideal world, by those close to you. Not by “professionals” who need to “diagnose” you.
I would agree partly. The average person just needs someone to listen to them without judgement. However, if you are schizophrenic, bipolar, or any of the major mental illnesses, then they NEED to be in therapy to be treated so they can live an average / normal life.
@@kadebebesis4204I think it's helpful for people to go to therapy for issues that run deeper than family/friends can comprehend or deal with properly. like, upbringing, self-hatred, etc. therapists are way more likely to ask the right questions or give the right direction to sort out that complex puzzle of you, if that's what you need to do. lending an ear is incredibly important and a lot of the time someone just needs a friend, but other times they need someone who knows what they're doing.
They’re obsessed with it because it’s trendy/cool to say “I have a mental health problem” or “I’m autistic”. I noticed this when I compared the fact that the rates of autism are skyrocketing in younger generations but when you go online,saying you’re autistic gets you supoort or saying “I had an autistic moment” can get you likes or just general online appreciation
@@SubZero-hs9xc But there’s outlets for that that aren’t TikTok or Instagram or even Only Fans,why is social media the number #1 place to go if you need that support? 😒
I've noticed this as well in the last year. There's a lot more people online talking about how they're "displaying symptoms of autism". Personally to me, seems like many folks are taking ordinary human behaviors and assuming it's "undiagnosed autism" (being socially awkward, being very interested in certain topics, etc.).
@@SubZero-hs9xcif you really think the statistics show real rise in the number of autistic people , and all those people are not actually self diagnosed kids , then i have a garage to sell you my man
@@me-jd2kya man isn't a giga Chad socialite & prefers to think about & work with "things" instead of people? Gotta be autism. Person gets really into a new topic they find fascinating? Can't be natural curiosity & intrigue, it's gotta be autism.
It’s sad to see so many young adults around my age needing to fall on the crutch of mental health just so that can use it as an excuse to not be responsible for anything they do, or worse, to not do anything to make their lives better.
As someone who has actually been formally diagnosed at a young age (and subsequently when I got older) with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, it's upsetting because then people dismiss me as if it's fake
Y’all SPITTING!!! I have diagnosed ptsd and bi polar disorder. I come from a family of addicts and mental illness. I’m medicated and doing very well for myself, therapy doesn’t work for me just cause I don’t like talking about my problems to someone it’s weird lol. I journal, paint, workout, focus on college etc. that’s my therapy. Because of todays trends of self diagnosing it takes away and invalidates those who are diagnosed. Like Aba said “I have bpd because I get mad” 🙄 it’s like the boy who cried wolf…
Its acutally not recommended to use talking therapy when you have trauma, as you can retraumatise yourself , but there is different kind of therapies beside the talking useless one . I am glad youvare doing better 💪
I know what you mean. I tried therapy 12 years ago and it was very cringe. That was also the last time I tried making friends, and doing stuff that normal people do, like meds, also didn't work for me.
i tried therapy a couple different times off doctors recommendation, both therapists told me im already too self aware of the roots of my childhood trauma and causes of my anxiety to need therapy. just like rehab, it doesn’t work for everyone.
Not only qualified, but relevant and fitting to that person and their situation. A “qualified” therapist could be the “right” therapist in theory, but not in practice. Someone like me needs a therapist that has certain specializations and training. However, none of that matters if they aren’t also capable of being blunt and honest with me, like I make explicitly clear during our test session, and also “in the know” when it comes to modern problems the younger generation faces. A Boomer that bluntly gives Boomer advice is not going to help me. A Millennial that pussyfoots about giving me relevant advice is not going to help me. Hence why it’s important to shop around and try out different therapists before finding one that truly fits, but I guess people on both sides just conveniently forgot that part. This video is a miss.
As someone who has to deal with mental illness and is in and out of mental institions, shit like this drives me up the wall. My entire life is controlled by my afflictions and is isnt a trend and it's not a joke. And because of everyone thinking they have things when they don't, it makes people desensitized to real issues, and they dont treat the people who really need help seriously at all. It's sickening, and makes it harder for people like me to get real help. Doesnt help that a lit of therapists and doctors subscribe to this also. Probably so they can get people on meds, which makes money for them
I agree. I think people intentionally ignore the money-making aspect of medical care and therapeutic care. It’s upsetting that mental illness is a trend or a label people attach to themselves any time they experience slight discomfort or distress (especially when it’s short-lived) and I think people have become really desensitized to a lot of mental illness. Now everyone has anxiety or depression 😕
I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with PTSD and I have for over 10 years struggled with the admittance of saying I have an issue. Even only my family and husband knows. It's been very isolating. I can't leave the house by myself or I'm terrified. People who treat it with such flippant attitudes, like it's a cool quirky thing, absolutely disgust me.
Self therapy has been my whole life. I grew up in a fucked up child hood so I had to figure it out. It would've helped me if I had talked to a therapist early on, but I don't need it and haven't needed it for many years now. I learned a lot by doing it on my own. It was tougher, but that's how you learn more and I'm so much stronger on my own. If someone or something happens to me in a way that really messes me up, I can stand strong and know I will have the power to overcome. People give up their power so early and so easily, especially in the USA.
That's great that it worked out for you. For everyone that's not the case sometimes therapy helps some ppl some ppl can "figure it out on their own" and that's fine
I totally get your point, If I got therapy...lets be honest...just some safe space and some one who have told me, that its wrong what happened to me, when I was still a child or young teen. It would have had the greatest impact. But most things in live are like back flips, if you dont learn it until you are 25, good luck.
@@crystalbrown6619 I get your point as well, but looking back... even with therapy you have to kind of figure it out on your own. Do you know anyone for whome therapy on its own made a difference. I have the feeling that for many its just a place where they can talk about their BS without any consequences.
@@westphalianstallion4293 I think it's idiotic in itself to think that therapy is one thing and one thing only. If some people use it as a way to talk about BS without consequences, then they most likely are benefiting from it since they pay out -of-pocket for it. It is disheartening to see how so many people play into what generations before us have thought about therapy. If it is not for you, great. It doesn't however make it whatever misconstrued idea you have been fed over and over. People study years, and earn many degrees to learn techniques to essentially create plans to help people work through specific traumas. That is therapy.
Therapist here. Not everyone "needs" therapy, but everyone could benefit from therapy. I totally agree with Aba though, there is a large amount of projection, entitlement and cringe going on here. 😬 Edit: The best outcomes come from daily physical fitness, proper sleep and diet!
I just went to the forest like this guy and calmed down when i thought about therapy i checked the prices and i was like 'i better go out more' then i exercised and got a job talked to people watched a lot of videos about helping understanding life itself as a person this really helped put my life together,got me feeling the best i felt in 10 years. So just focus on yourself with all the positivity and self love and BE patient is not going to work in a week or a month it might take years but you better start before the life that you should have had goes away like it was nothing. Don't choose pain, choose your future where you can smile and enjoy your daily life.
I had some difficult times that made me disassosciate from society and contemplate Alt F4. I might've needed therapy at some point, but I could never afford it. I did the alternative by working out, eating better, being outside more, getting back to school, catching up with some old friends, and talking to my family. And now, I'm much better. Therapy is not the only option to fixing yourself, or at least making your mental state a little bit better.
Well... Another part of the problem is the misconception that "therapy" is the same thing as going to a therapist. It isnt. Therapy simply means a process of healing. Therapists are only necessary when the patient literally doesnt know how to do that themselves, and needs guidance from a professional. It's like how a gym coach or physical trainer might know enough about their own body, that if they get injured, they might be able to self administer physical therapy, and get better without ever having to see a physical therapist... But someone who's out of shape, and doesnt understand their own body, might need one because they dont know how to heal the same injury. Pretty much everyone "needs" mental therapy at some point in their lives, but that absolutely is not the same thing as this st@pid idea that everyone needs to GO to a therapist. A healthy adult should be self aware enough, and know the bare minimum amount of psychology necessary to form coping strategies on their own to get through the tough times... Thats exactly what you did... And that could be referred to as self administered therapy. Others are so far gone and so inept and self reflection that they need an actual therapist to help guide them. _____ Even people who go to therapists dont necessarily recieve therapy. Mental healing requires a huge amount of effort on the part of the patient, and a motivation to actually self improve. Some narcissists and psychopaths use therapy and more acceptable mental health issues as a smoke screen, and convenient excuse for sh@tty behavior. These are people who want the victimhood of more sympathetic mental health issues, and the appearance of self improvement, while intending to pay a monthly fee to a therapist for the next 70 years with no intention of actually improving. A good example, I dated this chick for a week who claimed to be autistic... But it felt off. I've been around autistic people a lot, and she didnt really seem like it. She was socially incompetent, but... Almost seemingly willfully cruel and carefree about it. In my experience, autistic people dont usually mean offense, usually arent very aware when they do say something off, and when someone informs them, theyre often remorseful about it, whether they understand their social faux pas or not. What she told me later... And in hindsight, this is pretty disturbing... Apparently she was initially diagnosed with BPD (or, more in her words, "psychopathy"... But she was likely told BPD with the behaviors normally associated psychopathy in laymen vernacular. Psychopathy sociopathy arent really proper diagnoses, but their general behaviors fall under BPD). She felt that was a "misdiagnosis"... So she went to a different shrink who ALSO diagnosed her with BPD... Then she went to another... Then another... She said she went to literally 15 shrinks who all gave her a BPD diagnosis before finally finding one who gave her the "right" diagnosis of "autism". ... Is it just me, or does that sound more like finding out something about yourself that you really dont like, then brute forcing the medical system to get a more socially acceptable diagnosis? Misdiagnosis does happen... But really?... 15 shrinks conclude youre manipulative, and you claim the diagnosis of the 16th? And isnt learning what answers to actually give in "therapy" to get a shrink to give you that diagnosis... Isnt that a very untreated BPD thing to do? And her behavior not long after that I began to realize was a lot more consistent with BPD. I've also been around a bunch of people who have that as well (usually on the recieving end of abusive relationships.... But also my best friend has it, but he's one of the few who's actually self aware about it and tries to manage it). Among other things, she excused literally everything, from dominating conversation in our college class, to having zero filter with mostly negative things to say about and to others, to her "inability" to get a drivers license, with "autism". Theres a lot of behaviors I wont get into that screamed manipulator as well, but needless to say, I was done with her by the third date, and regretted even giving her that much patience. This was a person who learned how to game the mental health system the more she engaged with it, to find a convenient excuse for sh@tty behavior, and have it literally justified by a professional. There literally wasnt any helping this person, given she was motivated enough to plow through expensive therapists to find one to change her diagnosis. How can anyone call what she was getting "therapy"? If she were really getting therapy out of it, she would have stopped at a second or third opinion, accepted she has BPD, and worked on managing it from that position. And the worst part?... She was in school to become a therapist... To "help" people like her... Even though she practically went out of her way to make it clear to me she sees most people as objects. Going to therapists isnt the same thing as therapy. Some creeps just go to better learn how to manipulate others. Genuine therapy comes from within, ALWAYS. Sometimes that is done without any help (which is what you did, as a healthy self starter), and sometimes it's done with outside help (which is what people who grow after visiting a therapist do). But it ALWAYS comes from within. These morons who think going to a therapist in perpetuity IS therapy, are doomed to never improve their lives, because they see making a show of mental health as more important than actually improving ones mental being by any means necessary. Even for those who do need outside help, a good therapist should be aiming to ween you off of it with coping strategies and education on basic psychology and self reflection. I think part of the problem is in the US, we have a for profit mental health and pharmaceutical system. Although some therapists are genuinely good at their jobs and genuinely try to heal their patients... There's actually far more financial incentive to resort to drugs first, and give half baked therapy so your patient has reason to see you regularly in perpetuity.
I have been saying for years that people are using therapy for every little thing, like taking meds for every little thing. I think most people can just get by with talking to friends an family. Sadly, many people now have been so conditioned towards therapy even friends and family will recommend a therapist rather than just take things out.
I'm 23 and every therapist I've been to just doesn't work out. Woman have probably popularized going to therapy and I find that therapists try to help everyone the same way. It really ain't it chief.
@@ChelleSimonexactly, how is someone who barely knows you supposed to really care about you and help you.. it would take years and that’s a lot of money
I've been to therapy and it did NOT work for me. It made it worse. People handle things differently, some people might just prefer to handle things by themselves. Also it's very dangerous to think that therapists are some amazing godlike beings when they are humans and some therapists can give really bad advice, like mine, totally invalidated me and ignored my ocd
Honestly depends what you go for, some therapists do affirmation well and some are more solution focused and they don't focus on making you feel better, it completely depends on which one you choose. I've personally had no success with any.
As someone with OCD, I can only imagine how difficult it must've been for you when that therapist invalidated your symptoms. That would truly ruin me if someone did that when I was at my lowest. Hope you're doing better now 🤗
I’m a part of the younger generation that uses mental illness too, but I don’t think you were talking about me. My ADHD has ruined my life so much. If it wasn’t for my family I would probably be a bum. Half the times I think my ADHD is going to put me there still. I say this to say, that finding out about my illness has given me a connection to others who thankfully understand what I go through. It makes it a little easier. Plus now I can understand why I am the way I am and fix it if possible. I probably talk about my adhd so much you might think I’m faking if you didn’t know me, but the only reason I do is it help others understand not to beat themselves up about it how I deal with mine so they can understand how to work with it. I’m sure a lot of people would rather not tell I soul, but I want to, so I can help as many people as I can, only issue is it feels impossible to figure it out. That’s it. I know you know this, but I just wanted to say this to show I’m one of real ones.
I think there’s a useful analogy between therapists and personal trainers. If you have never set foot in a gym, didn’t play sports growing up, and don’t have a friend group that will show you how to lift getting a personal trainer could be a good idea. Similarly if you didn’t learn how to process emotions, build relationships, and generally feel contented then you should consider a therapist. Of course both options are expensive and you can also do quite a bit by finding other outlets that will teach you similar skills for low costs like group fitness classes for physical health, or some physical world hobbies/community for mental health.
I’m a big fan of therapy but I find having a supportive and cohesive friend and family group is good 99% of the time, I’ve been through hard times and I’ve opened up about it to my friends and family and been vulnerable with them and it’s helped me get past it without the need for therapy.
In the type of friend group like the one in the video, opening up to family and friends would be considered 'trauma dumping' and they'd advise seeking therapy instead.
I go to church. It's free, you have an outlet where people don't condemn you, you have a community and it's a place to grown both mentally and spiritually. I've done therapy in the past and it was very helpful. But compared to my church, it's true, therapy is a privilege. Where do poor people go? Where are their outlets? Honestly it comes across as a bit smug when they look down at someone who doesn't go to therapy when have people who can't afford therapy.
I've had too many bad experiences with most churchgoers. Even though I am a Christian, I don't attend & likely will never again. Maybe someday I'll be able to convince a group of churchgoers that we can fellowship while serving the community instead, but so far it hasn't happened & boy have I tried.
@@yingyang7448is it? We tell ourselves loads of fanciful tales about right and wrong, good and evil, truth and falsehoods all day every day about a hundred things. If you take one step beyond the "guy in the sky", pretty much everything else is an introspection into human behavior that, the older I get, the more true it rings.
@@bbbbbbb51I feel for you man. I'm lucky enough to have had a great community ever since childhood but I've seen so much of the opposite. Hope you find a good group eventually
Never did therapy the best thing for me mentally was starting hiking, outdoor activities, hobbies, etc. Other people I know did therapy and the only thing they do is constantly post on facebook, insta, snap, on twitter or tik tok adding to their depression and wondering why they are miserable.
As a therapist, the normalization of mental illness is draining. Everyone is biologically designed to experience anxiety, depression, anger, changes in mood, and many other symptoms as a means of survival. People need to stop thinking that they have a severe mental illness when it's a normalized response to an identifiable trigger. Not everyone needs therapy, but everyone does need to know how to cope.
thank you 😭 general anxiety is literally normal, it's not a quirk or something that makes you special
This comment should be pinned positively. .
Facts! I am a therapist myself. I always tell people therapy isnt for everyone but it can be helpful. Therapy is what you put in it.
@beanicehuman the only time I feel like like testing/therapy is a must is when it comes to people having children. Many people have children that are not at that point in life and need to make sure they are mentally able to handle the pressure of having a child. This is from looking at the highly flawed systems. I have a M.A. in Clinical mental health counseling.
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I have a lot of students saying they have anxiety, adhd and other TikTok diagnoses without consulting an expert. I hate it.
Anxiety has to be one of the excessively diagnosed emotion. Now there is debilitating anxiety which is a diagnosable disorder....most have to former not the later. The former is a natural emotion.
@@derekbeck1982yeah if it gets so bad that you feel like you can’t leave your house, than it is a disorder.
@@derekbeck1982 Most of these subjective conditons are self-reinforcing. Anxiety in particular. If somebody convinces themselves that they are anxious, then they will become anxious. ADHD is a proxy of modern society and social media actively stealing your attention so a lot more people genuinely do have it nowadays given that social media is so prevalent. Most people reading this will have 2 screens in front of their visual field right now but you've not got 4 eyes or ears!
@@jadeblackwell6227 I used to feel like I could not leave my house, now I carry a 9mm and I aint worried about a damn thing.
It really bugs me because when you are diagnosed, you feel like everyone is lumping you in with these kinds of people. I don't have tiktok. But I am, as kids these days say, "neurodivergent" lol. I feel like an idiot when i have to tell anyone. We have a new stigma arising 😅
"Has anyone been with a women of colour" is such a weird question to ask people, even if flat out curious. These women are out of touch when it comes to small talk and you can kind of start to see why therapy is their life support.
I thought women of colour and white women are supposed to be equal and stuff , but by listening to these bitches i know understand that you somehow get some advantages when standing by poc women
Yeah it gives off a vibe like they're going to presume you're racist if you say no when it's totally normal that you may have never even had a woman of colour who was even interested in dating you through no fault of your own lol.
“Meet my arbitrary quota!”
"no"
"Why not"
"Because when I grew up in the 90s there weren't any in my town"
It's a lose-lose situation
"I won't pick you because you fetishize POC"
"I won't pick you because you never tried to date outside your own race, therefore you're a closeted bigot "
I’m African and when I was in high school everyone had to do mandatory 2 sports and a club(debate, drama, chess etc…) after classes per year. This created comradery and no one was ever left behind. This led to school pride and pride in one’s self and one’s achievements (played rugby for my country). It eliminated staying at home and stewing on things unnecessarily cos you had outlets. By 5PM when your parents were done with work you’re exhausted. Your parents take you home and you were ready to crash. That routine did wonders for me and all my peers. Self deletion and violence were not a thing at all. I feel, IMHO, this would do wonders for the US.
It would do wonders for the US!
Too bad most people here have a million reasons and excuses to be lazy
Yea I also had a busy schedule and it helped me socialise and become confident. I’m in Africa too but we had it as electives. The first year I didn’t participate, my mental health was in the dumps. I still have friends from that time like 15 years later
@@zeenkosis Good on you! Also, judging by your name, we're from the same region. All the best :)
Oh wow! That's actually really cool. I'm taking a guess that because of this there was no bullying in your school because everyone socialized with everyone
Mental health is being used as a way to dodge accountability on both ends.
It’s very sickening
I’ve seen a lot of girls today blame their cheating and infidelity on “Borderline Personality Disorder” or bipolar disorder etc… its like nah, you’re just a piece of shit
true. i have toxic family members that refuse to talk to my mom because "their therapist told them my mom is bad for them" which is hilarious because its clear as day that my mom is a saint, she just has lots of toxic and jealous family members that hate her. So they lie to their therapists and get told what they want to hear, and they've just become 100x more toxic as a result. Therapy is literally encouraging these type of toxic and manipulative people but no one is talking about that, because they are all the ones going to therapy and claiming how great it is because their therapist believes all their manipulative BS and makes them feel good about themselves for no real reasons.
"My therapist said I have BPD, that means I can't control my temper. You're just going to have to work around it."
Put the blame on the other person for not accommodating to your 'disorder'
@@meowcat64 think therapists should 100% have to interview family members to see if they’re getting that weird one-sided story. I’ve had family do that exact same thing.
My mom is a retired therapist and social worker and she even said no one is supposed to be in therapy forever. She basically said therapy is like having a sprained joint. You wear your boot for a few weeks then go to rehab for awhile and then carry on with your life. You wouldn’t stay in physical therapy forever. Eventually you need to get to a point where you don’t sprain your brain in a sense
Yeah, patients tend to believe they don't have to do anything and that a therapist is going to wave a magical wand or say something profound that magically fixes their issues.
Therapists just lead you to the door that holds your problems. You've got to be the one to open it, face your issues and deal with them.
Lol yeah like coaching or a rehab group. Its supposed to give you the tools and assistance to get better, unless you’re severely traumatized or getting traumatized every other day there’s no need for it to be a life long thing lmao
This!
I think therapy easily borders on becomong a lifelong crutch for people to consistently vent their problems and offset them for a week at a time rather than working through them.
I believe individuality is born through personal struggle, the concept of "pressure creates diamonds" and if any human is constantly venting off that personal steam they aren't working towards becoming the next phase of themself through their continued struggles. Not to say this is the truth for all, but theres clearly an over reliance on leaning into your illnesses to appear special rather than overcoming them and actualing becoming a grander version of oneself
“Everybody needs therapy.” Even a THERAPIST will suggest you to find a positive outlet.
😂😂exactly
We need a therapist for the therapist to deal with them.
As soon as Betterhelp* hit RUclipsrs with money. Therapy became another customer product. Now it's a social status signaler. Like a $1500 iphone.
Like exercise.
I'm a robot 🤖 therapist. Whenever they throw a tantrum and don't do what they're supposed to I throw their asses in teach mode, home them, then send them to a maintenance position. This usually refreshes whatever BS operation they were wrongly trying to execute. I'm running a test trial on humans next week. Since everyone should be in therapy, we have several free appointments open. FANUK, we are here for your brains 🧠...., wellness😈😊
"Men do conspiracy theories, women do astrology"
That one got a good laugh out of me, that's a bar
It’s strange being a woman into conspiracies 💀💀
No way man. Every other 50+ year old mom I know is into reading stuff about Michelle Obama being a trans-woman on Telegram.
Bruh I’d rather be associated with conspiracy theories than astrology nonsense any day of the week. Last thing I need is another label put on me because I’m female. I’m already embarrassed by the woke feminist trash as it is. ;-;
@@ScarletAngleGaara Cringe pick me girl
@@chrisc4507 Do you have so little of a life that you result to cringe, lame, and pathetic insults on the internet to try and piece together that fragile ego that is barely holding on? You call me a pick me girl when I’m the furthest thing from it and you don’t know me at all. Get a hobby instead of sitting in crusty underwear insulting strangers online.
The craziest part of the whole therapy discourse to me is that most people don't even understand that therapy isn't really intended to be permanent. Ideally, you're supposed to graduate from therapy once you've learned all the tools the doctor provides and properly implement them in your life. If you're actually trying to do that, eventually you are supposed to get to a point of not needing anymore
Exactly they’re a tool you can use to help you but they’re not the solution. Everything is down to you at the end of it all.
The profit motive drives a lot of disinformation throughout societies. Obviously, “therapists” are gonna be okay with this one because they make their money from it.
You can fucking Google the advice a therapist gives you too😂
My thoughts exactly, it's a paradox
In my experience the majority of therapists are pretty much charging you to do what a close friend or family member would traditionally have done for you in listening to your problems with your life without judging you harshly and nothing more. Finding someone actually willing to dig deep and confront you about some of your own issues is rare. If you get one of the former it is understandable how you could be in therapy, it help you feel better yet never actually solve anything and remain in "therapy" indefinitely.
Voting someone off because they don't go to a therapist is one of the dumbest things ever and I'm glad I'm not from this generation
Ya. It’s also really audacious when you think about it considering who can afford therapy and the idea that you think someone is lesser for not having had it.
In this economy, u lucky to be able to even afford one.
Nigga you young too you part of them😂
Idk why people feel the need to generalize an entire generation based off some videos online
Have you met the bulk of women on dating apps? They think it’s a red flag if a guy doesn’t go to therapy
Mental health has become a scapegoat. No, not everyone needs therapy.
they just use it as an excuse for bad behaviour
If you're using mental health as a scapegoat to be an ass and avoid any accountability, you literally do need to therapy for your issues.
Not gonna lie most people could use it, it doesn’t have to be some soft ass BS you see on tv. Just make sure yours is willing to call you out on your BS and help you figure out what your doing wrong in life and how to fix it, instead of just sitting their racking up a check while you cry. Some people just use it to affirm themselves and their feelings though I don’t think that does any good.
what really helps at times is just to delete all forms of social media and have a phone cleanse.
This. My sister (27 yo) has been on the TikTok diagnosis train for the past year and I try hard not to to beat her over the head with it. I've brought it up to her multiple times but just dismisses it as hate or misunderstanding, so I just let her do her thing. The thing is, we're right to say it's ADHD, or at least symptoms of ADHD. Our content consumption habits have breeded smaller attention spans which in turn causes worse impulse control. Though, we don't need drugs to fix this form of "ADHD."
Going to therapy is becoming the new “getting a college degree”. Everyone is being told to go to it without anyone knowing background, reason, and if you don’t you get looks.
And old folks are just shaking their heads
It's always the most mentally unstable and clearly unhealthy people that advocate this aggressively for therapy. Like yeah I'm sure it's worked wonders for you but I'm pretty happy with my life so I don't see a need to change anything.
@@1dingerridk if you realized, but most Americans aren’t exactly enjoying life right now, and a lot of them don’t have the means to go to therapy. Be empathetic.
@blakk6lass I don't need unhappy people telling me how to be happy, that's my point. BTW, most Americans are happy or at least content with life statistically, so you might just be hanging out with sad people.
@@1dingerr I’d love to know how that was measured, and what kind of methods they used to research that, and what range of groups they used class wise. and I’m around all kinds of people usually and don’t limit myself to a “friend group” or anything like that. If you don’t mind, direct me to the study you looked at
I’m American but I’ve lived in Korea for the past ten years and seeing these types of videos- it doesn’t feel real lol like the fact that people like this exist in real life is fascinating to me 🗿
It’s trends and generational behavior mixed in with hyper-communication trough social medias. I’m sure there is some cringy trends that people view as a norm in korea ! (Plastic surgery, k-pop fetishization or school work hours maybe ?). It’s a phenomenon as old as humanity, i’m sure older generations, and a lot of people had the same feeling with rock music and sexual liberation in the 60’s that we have with the mental health focus and social media / streaming obsession of this generation.
I can’t believe u also watch Aba and Preach, I like you a lot more for that immediately. Based af.
oh yeah, they so normal in korea
That hit different because some Korean shows are willllddddddd 😂
@@K.D-Gaiathere’s nothing in Korea that wouldn’t be easily surpassed by a brief walk down any street on the west coast or NY.
My child is a teenager and I had to remind them that feeling nervous sometimes isn't having anxiety. Feeling nervous when big things are happening is the normal response, not a problem to be solved.
But you truly don’t know if your child is nervous or anxious, so it’s something you just don’t pat them on the back and forget about
@@diegosegura7617yes it literally is... it's very normal and expected.
@@davidpowers9178 no it’s literally not anxiety comes in all different forms, you don’t know exactly how someone feels, it might be nervousness but to assume you just know exactly how they feel is ignorant.
@@diegosegura7617 we should give time to kids and teenage to learn to deal with their emotions. Therapy It’s needed with dealing with deep évident traumas or certain emotions recurring with time. If the nervous feeling is recurring and the child can’t deal with it than maybe talking to someone is great. But we should all get time to learn how our brain work and body react to our emotions. It’s crazy how people will get a saying in how u should deal with yourself before yourself
@@Omaima782 i totally agree. But you should also not overlook it. I see a lot of comments here “I felt that way before and I just got over it”. No one truly knows what’s going on in someone else’s head
I hate when people say "everyone needs therapy". I went through some real serious stuff earlier in my life, and I say a therapist for two years. She was a highly respected, acclaimed therapist, and after a year and a half she said quote "I don't think you need therapy anymore. It isn't needed for everyone. I think you just need some friends close to your age, who you can relate to." She actually told me to use my money to do other fun things.
Ive been in therapy for years now. I have Intermittent explosive disorder - actually diagnosed. If i dont have therapy to talk to someone during an episode, i would be in the penitentiary. I think therapy is only needed when you have problems functioning in society / everyday life. My IED will never go away, it can only be managed.
Imo everyone does. Need some I don't think you need it for life, but it's good to have a check in every so often. Since there can be things below the surface you think you've dealt with that you haven't. It's not fair to trauma dump on you're friends and family all the time. Of course it's fine to get advice and chat with them, but imo Many if not most should reach out to some degree
Drugs and alcohol helps, gore videos tho.
@@handsanitizer2457 youre projecting so hard rn, nobody said anything about ignoring issues or trauma dumping all the time on friends and family.
@@libertybelllocks7476I'm glad that you took steps to help yourself and that it's beneficial. I agree with your perspective. Best of luck and success to you.
I graduated in psychology way before all this hyper-therapy-popularity came up. And the one thing we were taught is that someone can't stay in therapy for long. At some point as a therapist you have to give that person resources to possibly transfer them to a different therapist who may be better suited to their problem. Which means you can't indefinitely stay.
In the western culture, it's like a permanent state. It's totally ok to be "broken" for years. I used therapy when no other resource of my own was helping me get through an issue. I got the assistance I needed for my issue and now I am able to manage on with my own resources and mental equipment should the same struggle rise again. I am for therapy/mental health - but I'm heavily against "the permanent state of therapy". I assure you, of you keep going to the therapist for years, your therapist is just in it for the money from you.
It saddens me that some people are left in a constant state of brokeness. The whole point of therapy is to help someone be able to live their life again and to live a healthy, normal, and balanced life.
Every single one of these people is insufferable. Y'all got me through this video.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The floor boards creaking under Aba’s feet had me more engaged than anyone in that video
I'm so glad that I'm not young, single and in a blue state. Dating has to suck now....
It’s not just an obsession with mental health issues.it’s an obsession with sharing your mental health issues with others. Take social media out of the equation and their mental health problems suddenly vanish because they no longer have an audience.
Accurate
Id say most of it is performative for sure
PREACH
Agree. People love trauma dumping and bonding over trauma.
I kind of like that people are more open about their mental health issues. As long as people are being honest and educate themselves about what depression, ADHD, etc are
Preach already shaking his head right off the bat… This about to be good content 😂
Literally thought the same thing 😂
He’s already frustrated lol
So true🤣😂
That generic happy go lucky music makes me so angry
😂😂😂 y does Aba keep abusing Preach
The everyone needs therapy happened to my nephew. In high school in health class, two designated female students told the other students that everyone with a mental health issue go to one side of the room. And those that don't go to the other. My nephew was the only one that didn't go to the side of having a mental health problem. The two students were aghast and told him that it wasn't possible and started to bully him. His stated he didn't have any depression, anxiety, or any other mental health diagnosis. They told him what do you do when you're sad? His response was " sadness doesn't necessarily equate to depression and if I'm down I have outlets like sports, family, or I pray (I'm not religious but he finds comfort in his)."
During covid when a lot of child did start to show signs of mental health distress he was the kid who took up new hobbies and transferred his discomfort into something new. My issue with everyone making mental health a trendy thing seems to devalue the needs of those who actually may have severe triggers or trauma. A lot of my own anxiety and depression I have has been something that I've worked out with a therapist, friends and being retrospective but I'm a different person than my nephew and I wish I had the tenacity that kid has. he does his own thing.
That's a kid that we, adults, could learn a few things from
@AmoebaInk sorry the two girls were designated by the teachers to lead the other kids in health class where this happened. Sorry it was not clear.
Dang. I bet you're proud as hell of your nephew. He sounds like a great and wise kid.
@ReallyMartha he's an amazing kid. I'm definitely proud of him. He also still gives the best hugs
Pretty brave to admit you’re stupider than a high school kid
As someone who's taken therapy before, I agree with what Aba said about if you are already doing stuff that helps you mentally, you shouldn't keep seeing a psychologist. I stayed in therapy for 3 months, twice a week, and ever since learning more about myself I don't have to take it again and that was something the therapist herself told me.
Yeah therapy is something you should eventually "graduate" from.
same here, people were so shocked when I told them I got discharged like I was supposed to keep going forever
Imo a good therapist is one that gets you to a point where you don’t need them
Yes but at the end of the day you still got therapy rather than not having it at all.
Depend what you have, people needing a long term therapy are those with complex ptsd as its extremely hard to heal it on your own .
Unfortunately finding a good therapist is hard.
So many had been shamed and retraumatised by crap therapist
Before watching this, I was in the "everyone needs therapy" camp because it helped me so tremendously when I started going. Now I realize that most people just need healthy outlets and people they can trust with their emotions and it can have the same effect as visiting a licensed therapist.
I have benefitted from professional therapy in my life, but I'm still of the opinion that a good beer-buddy is the best therapist you can find. IMO a therapist is a substitute, meant for people who lack friends and family to support them.
Me too! This is even making me question why I’m still in therapy….
I thought I needed therapy.
Once I stopped smoking weed everyday and exercised regularly, I started to gain a better perspective and outlook.
(Not against anyone that smokes weed, I loved it but it wasn’t good for me)
@@cheesesteakphilly this is going to be different for some people though. Not saying you are doing this but a common thing you will hear is people being like "oh you're depressed? Just go gym exercise eat healthily and it will go away!" and while it is true that those things can help if someone actually has depression it won't just disappear.
I go to gunpowder therapy
There’s a massive difference between mental health issues and being mentally weak. These people clearly show that. Thanks Peaches and Cream!
not the peaches n cream 😭
Yep. There's mental health, and there's mental strenght.
I know a man who suffered psychological trauma because physically hurt by some accident at job. He also lost the job (I know, that's suck) his wife cheated and dumped him, lost his house, people looked down to him, and other misfortunes. This guy is my uncle.
But my uncle is tough, when other people probaly already break and give up long time ago, he keeps fighting and moving on while diagnosed with depression.
He is okay now, new job, new wife (then 3 kids), and new house.
When I asked how he went thru all of that, he answered, "I submit to God, asked Him to give me the strenght, and I let go." Then I understand, it's a leap of faith. Our job is simply just don't give up, and let God take care the rest.
My dad spoke to me about having mental strength. It really shows us how people react/handle differently to a high stress situation. You have to be mentally strong/prepared for these scenarios and do ur best move on. Whether is be trauma, car crash, spouse cheating, high stress, failing at something....ect. If you can be mentally strong that's imo the best, but if not then, therapy is right for you.
@@NurmaBP straight facts bro, trust in God helps.
@@NurmaBP These people are looking for a friend not a therapist lol
I’m gonna share some stuff with you guys. I came back from some of my military training and when I was driving back “home” my gf decided to break up text me when I was driving home, kicked me out, and packed my shit. I wasn’t allowed to go there that night. I asked around and I’m couch surfing and trying to figure out what to do. Once I started counting my blessing w/ my friends and family. I hit a deer on the highway one night coming back from a friends place. I don’t have a car now. I’m alive, but I know I can’t just go talk to a therapist about this because I don’t have the income. All I can do is wait. Find a work around for myself and survive until I get ready to deploy. I’m not active duty either so I don’t have any real safety nets anywhere. We all have different struggles but it’s always up to you as an individual to keep moving and to keep learning from everything you go through in life. I hope everyone is doing well here and if anyone wants to vent or talk about something I’m here! We can chat on discord if you guys need to get something off your chest.
You sound kind. Keep doing your thing!
I hope you can see how strong you are, in the face of hardship taking every step forward without hurting others is such a hard thing to do. We don’t know what we are made of until we are tested, and I hope you can see, what looks to me, a heart of gold. If you have a faith or prayer life with God I would urge you to read the book or Job, you may find him as a companion to yourself.
I find it so heart warming that you remained humble, grateful and grounded throughout this difficult time in your life!) So many people in this world fall deep into their problems because they remain to only think about them and not about the positives around them. Sometimes focusing on the outside world is what helps us get better. Therapy will only get us so far, but it is God who heals the heart. Remain resilient and put your trust in Him! 🙏
As a budding therapist myself
I think everyone should see a therapist multiple times a month
Just like I need to pay off student loans, so don’t be ashamed guys your mental health is important 😁
*This comment was sponsored by Big Therapy*
I see your scheme you ain’t catching me!!!!
just move to nova scotia. we have near endless amounts of mental health issues and basically zero therapists.
way to plug yourself
Hahaha how I feel about this industry at times lol even tho therapy did help me but after I felt better I stopped it
You don't always need a therapist. Sometimes people just need to vent to someone without needing advice and getting issues of their chest.
I mean that can be therapy. I don’t want to vent to my friends, put them in that weird position. I get that taken care of privately
@@jameshill8493 Whenever I feel the need to vent I walk out into the woods, find a nice stick and bash other sticks until I feel better. Works every time.
"Sometimes"
They dont have that, I am going to speculate that everyone they know are just as superficial as they are. No one actually cares, thats why they need therapy.
@@moo8972exactly, if you go to therapy and all they have is some advice, take your money and run
Had a younger woman try to argue this with me.
I support therapy, but I've never been. I have reliable outlets that help me maneuver through my stresses. But, she also believed that "everyone NEEDS therapy."
I ended up responding like Aba mentioned "just because YOU don't know how to handle your stress doesn't mean that nobody else can. You're projecting right now."
Needless to say, that didn't last long.
Therapy as we know it is like 200 years old. People act like we haven't been living thousands of years without it.
Is it a super important function in society? Of course it is, but it's not the life blood of a mentally healthy person.
Amazing she didn’t call you a narcissist or call gaslighting.🙄
i've always said most people could benefit from a type of therapy but have never thought everyone needs it. its good to destigmatize mental health but we dont need to overcorrect and obsess over it.
@@icu3869 Dude I was looking of this comment. Everyone is a narcissist now.
Well said! ❤
We've swung the pendulum from mental health being taboo to everyone needing a therapist. There's a balance. The hope for any therapist when working with a client is to work themselves out of a job with that person. In other words, NO not everyone needs one. The ideal is to be able to deal with life's problems in a healthy way
Actually only small minority of people need therapy.
@@AmoebaInk Better to find friends and family then rather than "therapy".
If you dont have any friends or family to talk to then thats your main problem.
@@AmoebaInk I just dont understand the desire to talk about ones psychological problems. I almost never talk about such things with other people and I am more than fine mentally.
I think it is narcissistic to talk about your feelings to others all the time.
@@AmoebaInk Of course, but still such cases are a small minority. Such people need therapy no question.
Look at it this way. When everybody is claiming mental health problems, real mental health problems wont be treated correctly and as seriously as they should.
Just like if you call everybody and everything racist. It diminishes real racism and racists which is way worse for the victims.
I’m trying to be a therapist right now. Can’t wait to tell people to stop getting on twitter and go outside for a living.
Me too man. I'm excited to tell people to git gud.
Sadly I doubt twitter users would even go out their rooms for a therapy session🤣🤣😂😂
Fighting the good fight. Best of luck in your career and TIA for your much needed service.
The problem is I think if you want to make a living you kinda need to appease to your entitled customers. Otherwise they aren't coming back or it may damage your Reputation. People hate being told the truth😂
TikTok is worse I’ve heard, just a race to the bottom.
It's ironic because for a generation to be so obsessed with mental health, the outcome is they end up needing more mental health help than before. It's really not that complicated. Stop giving a shit about what others think or say and build your world view on the simple strong foundations that society used to have when mental health wasn't such an issue. Things like family, community, and touching grass. Spend less time on social media and comparing yourself to fake people you see online.
Agree to disagree. The idea of mental health a hundred years ago was unheard of. The reason mental health has become such a talked about topic is because the medical field has finally caught up to it. Back then if you were suicidal Doctors would have chalked it down to a physical issue rather than a mental one. You aren't wrong though, social media is a fucking cancer. That's why I stopped watching RUclips shorts, because I felt like my brain was turning into a slushy. I feel as though social media is distracting people from having person to person interactions which would help with mental health. Everyone needs someones shoulder to cry on every now and again but it feels like everyone's face is buried in their phones.
I was forced to go to therapy as a kid and that experience convinced me that therapy as a whole is utter dogshit.
@Slimey_garbage_troll I had a bad experience with a douchebag therapist as a young teen and it put me off from therapy for a long time but going to a faith based counselor in my 20s helped me overcome a lot of stuff buried deep down that affected my relationship with my family and education/work life. All this to say don't give up on it and it may take a few misses before you finally hit the right person to seek counsel from. God bless you my friend✝️
@@1.21gigawatts2Well the argument would simply be that life was simpler in the sense you knew what you had to do. Family and community was your outlet for any and all things. So I completely reject the idea that because nobody understood modern concepts of mental health therefore we don't know if people were actually mentally healthy. Everything about our culture should make people unwell. So in a lot of ways I'm surprised it's not worse. The further we go down this road of individualism and away from family and community the worse it's going to be. Especially if we continue to engage with social media like we currently do.
they also think therapy involves constant affirmation.
Mental health has turned into the lastest popularity fad. Most people here in USA are self diagnosed from Google and tik tok. It's really odd.
I'm glad I actually went to the doctors and they gave me a diagnosis. Serious Bi Polar Depression, Anxiety and Alcoholism. I feel like Gen Z is gonna be the generation that (for now) are complaining about hardship but will face true hardship in the years to come.
Thats why you should go to a therapy,
Not on google amd tiktok
@@FunkSwaggMusiKGen Z does have hardship, but it's not as abrasive or violent as previous generations. The war of this generation is Ego and Insecurity, the social media war.
THIS!!!!!
If you think about it, I think it ties into the notion of American Individualistic ideals. We all want to be unique and distinguished. This is it's worst manifestation of it
Too many young people think your supposed to be happy all the time. When you supposed to have all the emotions...your supposed to feel sad when something makes you sad, you're supposed to feel scared when something is dangerous and supposed to be happy when something makes you happy or you accomplished something. Having pain and different emotions let's you know your body and brain are working as their supposed to. Good luck out there everyone!
too many are sold on the parts of the life that the celebrities and influencers show them.
Yea true I don't want to be zenned out in front of a bear the same way I don't want to be freaking out during dinner so that's true
Yes, true. These different emotions and experiences help us to mature and to become resilient. If we did not have complex emotions and challenges we would never grow, and the older you get the more challenging life becomes. It's only when it becomes a disruption in your life that one should actively seek therapy.
I have a gf that was diagnosed with bpd at 13 and was immediately put on heavy doses of psychosis medication. Her father gaslighting therapist and psychiatrist into the diagnosis. She was helpless until she could now at 20 be actual listened to and they removed the diagnosis. I don’t think people know how detrimental that medication can be on a growing child. With the way things are going I see a lot of parents and children experiencing the same thing….Get healthy, everyone isn’t mentally ill. Learn how to cope in a healthy way so your children can adopt those coping mechanisms.
Jeeeeeez. It's really frowned upon to diagnose young people with personality disorders, since their personalities are still forming. There's stats to show that when teens are diagnosed, less that half of them still fit the criteria within two years. It's just teens exhibiting teen behaviour. Fear of rejection? Emotional disregulation? Black and white thinking? We can't hold them to the standard of adults.
Also, medication is minimally effective for PDs.
As a borderline, BPD is a serious disorder not to be taken lightly, it’s often caused by constant and consistent trauma and abuse.
I don’t think I understand your story, are you saying she was misdiagnosed or her father pressured them into the diagnosis? Not trying to be dumb just genuinely trying to understand, I hate the stigma we get. 🌸
The pharma industrial complex.
@@missfortune8553I think they meant bipolar disorder, as they mentioned anti psychotics
Antipsychotics can be given to ppl with BPD to calm them during a crisis moemnt
*Everybody needs therapy, but not everyone needs a therapist. Facts!*
True, do you remember that female black therapist who got fired for giving toxic advise to black men?
@Letsnotforget I'd love to read a source on that.
Ive gone through probably half a dozen therapists in my life, and only one or two were actually helpful, and one or two may have been more detrimental. I found more help from a youtube psychologist talking about different topics than I did any in person therapist. I just... Learned how my brain functions, learned how other people function, and started applying it to my life. Nowadays, I regret ever going to therapy, because its going to show up on my medical record when I go try to get a private pilots license.
@@Letsnotforget eyy bro I genuinely need a source for that please
Yes, and finding outlets/hobbies are super important.
I love how the floor squeaking is like a third person now. It adds so much without saying anything. It lets you marinate/reflect in what was said for a second.
It’s so true 😂😂 it speaks when they are silent
the floor is my favorite character
I went to therapy in college because i didnt have a support system and was suicidal.i experienced SA recently, and i tried going to therapy again because i could feel those feelings return. But the therapist i spoke to just told me things i already knew and took me down a route of forgiveness instead of understanding my anger. I figured things out better on my own.
I hope you are doing better and get better every morning you wake up. I also found it disturbing when I noticed people just want to jump to forgiveness and are less and less understanding of allowing people avenues to vent their anger. It was almost like anyone who wants to vent is violent, even when the venting is not hurtful to others.
I hope you find a therapist that could just listen instead of jumping to fix you and let you forgive immediately. I think finding healthy outlets to vent emotionally is also therapeutic
So true! My issue with therapy is that I always feel coddled. I went to try to better understand the things I was doing and why I was making the choices I was making, and a lot of therapists just say “it’s not your fault”. Uhhh yes lady, it is 100% my fault, I’m an adult. Thankfully I found a therapist who balances accountability with empathy. I don’t see her often, but I’m more comfortable venting to a stranger then I am dumping all my problems on the people around me. PS I’m so sorry that happened to you, I hope you find some Justice in what happened to you.
Similar experience here. Most ppl would benefit more by spending time reflecting on their life & looking for solutions than spending that time on a therapist. Rarely does someone legitimately need an expert for consultation. It's like paying an hourly to a lawyer for advice about your daily schedule.
Honestly the idea that everyone has some deep seeded trauma, everyone has a past, everyone has something they need psychological help with is such a big projection.
A lot of people live their life as is, whether they had a perfect childhood or not. Not everything requires a deeper psychological lense into how you feel. Especially when your words & actions show you're content with who you are.
Indeed because most families are dysfonctionnal in a way
People like you say that out of complete ignorance. Most people have no idea how toxic people are and relationships are, and it’s almost always connected to your childhood. It’s not “projection” and people would do so much better if they would be aware of these things but they have no clue. You are literally the example. And the people liking your comment and other people commenting on this Video also. You are likely literally the group of people that could benefit greatly from it.
My god people
It's like their looking for to find an issue
@@jameswayton2340 Damn bro this is such a toxic comment
You considered seein a therapist?
@@jameswayton2340 How can he literally be the example when you know ZERO about his relationships? Sounds like projection to me~
You are right about the whole fake empathy thing. They are the most closed minded AND condescending, virtue signaling, paternalistic or more often than not maternalistic hypocrites.
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Therapy is considered as a trophy among teenagers these days .
Its almost like a new cool trend
the next 40 years are about to be one of the worst and most difficult in the history of mankind
People say they need therapy, but they know they can't afford it, so it becomes a crutch for why they act like assholes since it's not in their budget because god forbid they cut out the streaming services or food delivery apps.
I'll take that trend...
Cuts down on child abuse, teen pregnancies, school shootings, drug consumption, cultural differences and how to deal with others, etc... let them go.
Crazy! Growing up you wouldn’t be caught dead telling your buddy’s you can’t go to the skatepark because you can’t miss therapy.
True, however I think most people if not everyone would benefit from therapy. It’s not “how do you feel blah blah blah” it can be if that’s what you want though. Mine was covered by insurance I only had to pay 10-20 bucks a visit. Literally just an honest conversation about what’s going on and where you wanna be in a deeper more honest way then you can with other people. And I make sure they are willing to tell me I’m full of sh*t and tell it to me straight. These soft people giving therapy a bad name, everybody could use somebody honestly sizing up their situation and calling them out on their BS.
I agree with Youssef, as someone who constantly goes into nature to heal and get away from it all you don't have to be online or in person talking to a therapist. Gardening can be your therapy, hiking and exploring nature can be as well. There are so many health benefits to just being in nature especially if you go barefoot in the dirt. Plus in gardening alone there are so many lessons you can learn like consistency with watering and weeding. With weeding it reminds you to remove people or things from you life that are there to steal nutrients. With adding produce scraps and egg shells to put nutrients in sometimes the lowly viewed things can breathe life into you.
As someone who actually suffers from anxiety and depression, I find it alarming how many people are not only self diagnosing but labelling everyone around them with normal human reactions as narcissists. Anxiety and depression seem to be a flex or something more than a mental health issue. I can’t really say it is a generational thing because I felt like therapists have always been over used in the US. I remember growing up hearing about rich people having pet psychologists. 😅
It's so weird. Having an anxiety attack is not a flex. It's a horrible feeling to pass through
People want validation that their emotions and feelings are real. And some how decided that the only thing that makes them "valid" and "real" is if it has a medical term.
I'm sick of these people exploiting real issues that people are going through, it is nothing to brag about and is not something you should want!
"I aCtuLlY suffer"
@@denzellima3079 I'm betting she's exactly the same as the girls in this vid and just using it to flex.
"Not me, I'm special."
Reddit bleeding over into YT.
As a therapist myself, I would say everyone should be OPEN to therapy, but not that everyone NEEDS it. It's not for everybody and that's okay. Sometimes therapy is just about learning healthy coping mechanisms to deal with life stressors. Or even just to learn about about what you may be going through (disorders, symptoms, problematic patterns of behavior, etc.). Other times it can be about helping to heal trauma. But therapy is definitely not the end all be all of mental health.
This is not even to mention that some therapists are absolutely awful at their jobs and can do more harm than good.
Bonus rant: I seriously dislike how the societal intent shifted from bringing awareness to mental illness, to glorifying mental illness. It's pretty gross to see.
Yep, everything is about the money and fame these days, it seems. Nothing is genuine or stays sincere with the best intentions getting carried out anymore.
Do you think therapy is so prevalent nowadays is because a lack of good parenting?
As someone with a true set of mental disorders. It really is sickening how people treat it nowadays. It really undermines people with real disorders.
You'll have people that's never experienced any true form of trauma (privileged) naming all sorts of these 'illnesses' that they have.
I still don't know what the hell I'm doing with myself.
But, I used to wake up, trapped in an old play that's happened years ago. Violently shaking from side to side when I was 19-21. I couldn't work, I couldn't do anything with myself.
I felt super trapped in my head and I felt a million times heavier then I do nowadays. My chest always felt like it was going to explode and it'd cause extreme shortness of breath.
You have people experiencing things like this. Meanwhile, you've got people claiming to have all these disorders likes it's all fun and games.
When in reality. You wish you're dead. It's not cool.
Therapy wasnt really something i could afford to regularly, but it was really good at nailing down ocd I developed around middle school. I was taught tricks to cope with certain habits of mine sadly i havent been able to fully get rid of any though i have several times managed to successfully substitute old habits with a new one. Tbh tried to suppress my ticks a while ago and nearly had a mental breakdown with most of my old ticks reemerging. Didnt even last a week before that happened which really sucked.
@@mrpopularfromdowntow Naw, this is a reaction to all of the generations of families who didnt care about their mental health. Since we live in a world thats slowly normalizing talking about mental health now its easy to forget that just about 20 years ago families would bypass the convo completely.If you looked at how mfs in the 60's - 90's handle mental health it makes a lil more sense why people go so hard now lhh
It’s shameful, embarrassing, and disrespectful how Gen Z introduces themselves through their often self diagnosed mental health disorders like it’s cool, trendy and something to be proud of. Their are people that actually have to deal with these disorders that destroy their lives almost every moment of everyday and they treat it like it’s a fun board game.
Out of all the languages you choose to speak facts
True shit. I spent all my life until now (I'm 20) hiding my mental health issues because my male role models showed me to never share negative emotions/problems. I grew up with a sense of thinking that if you did have mental health issues (or any emotional problems) that you were weak, not a man, looking for attention etc. (And I used to actually shame people for it too, maybe i was subconsciously trying to make myself believe that shit but idk) And that was definitely a factor but the other big factor was so many peers on the internet and in school mentioned so casually how they have depression and/or anxiety but they functioned so well everyday, had lots of friends, and went to parties held part time jobs, actually took part in school activities. It made me think that i was too weak for the problems i was having. But keeping shit like that to yourself really wears down the body and mind and at least for me, stole my childhood years from me. Funny thing is that this video came out about 2 weeks after I started receiving the help I need after a huge breakdown I had.
Well said! For a generation thats so 'educated and aware' its upsetting how mental illness is discussed with such little thoughtfulness.
This is so true. Idk where it started
It is embarrassing! Cant stand those weirdos
Aba took the words right outta my mouth. Therapy is a privilege and in my home country of Ecuador you best believe people who have struggles these girls could never even imagine, don’t have the money or resources to see a therapist. It’s such a western mind set that you need other people to help fix your problems for you, when in reality as the other guy said, you can have ways to cope like hobbies or stepping outside or whatever it is
Somehow people survived for all of human history without therapists just fine. Living in easy times has made people mentally weak, and it isn't even their fault to a degree.
"It’s such a western mind set that you need other people to help fix your problems for you" omgosh... EXACTLY! Not just when it comes to dealing with our personal problems, but on the grander scale too. I guess it goes back to outsourcing our personal problems to institutions and politicians and so on. I'm not saying not to help each other as human beings, rather, see what I can do about it first - and if I can't, it's ok to ask for help, but it doesn't have to be done in the exact way other people tell you it should be.
Honestly thats exactly how it is. I think a lot of people want someone to fix the problem for them, or they want a scapegoat to blame when it doesn’t work. Plus its like a personality trait to go see a therapist
I've been to therapy. Therapy definitely helps when you're struggling emotionally to the point where you're at an impasse where unresolved issues are negatively impacting different aspects of your life. That being said, if you don't have anything that is seriously troubling you, youre not going to get anything out of a therapy session. Therapy really is for when you are falling into negative habitual behaviors, or chronically experiencing emotions that are out of control. You don't need it if you can work through it in other ways.
I never understood the need for therapy without trauma but it seems to be the "in" thing with this generation. All their friends go so they go and just tell the therapist about their boring day and idk I guess the therapist asks questions until they find something they can pull strings at.
@humphreybogart2094 well the idea of, "let's talk about mental health" is a laudable one, especially amongst men, but that has somehow transformed into "in order to be mindful of your mental well-being, you MUST go to therapy"
Facts, I'm in therapy currently but I actually had an abusive childhood and experienced trauma from overseas deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. I can't imagine why an average person would need therapy and what they would even talk about
As someone in their early 20's who's surrounded by people who deal with mental health issues and constantly see a therapist, a common trend I've noticed is they live in a cycle of repeating the same bad habits and not making any actual changes outside of talking to a therapist. You're obviously going to feel like shit and have a bad mental state when you don't do any actual work outside of therapy.
What I’ve noticed, therapy is like a confessional for them.
They continue to do the dumb shit, but it’s all good because “I see a therapist and talk about it with them.” Poof, the same damn bad habits are magically forgotten and they believe they get a clean slate until the next appointment.
It’s strangely like a religion for some of them. Just like how some of the women in this video act over the guy who doesn’t go to therapy, it’s like they’re shocked and think the guy is just ~lost~ because they’re not on the enlightened path of therapy like they are lol.
My theory is people stay in the cycle of therapy so they don't HAVE to do the work.
They just want to introspect and analyze forever and to them that's all the progress they need.
It's like when young people talk about their red flags, to them it shows maturity and self awareness but it actually shows there's no self awareness or accountability because if there was then they would fix it instead of "owning" it.
They’re all self-destructive and pathetic.
THIS!!! The most unhealthy and straight up malicious people love to use that they are in therapy to excuse their horrible behaviors. I see more and more young people using therapy jargon to intellectualize their shitty behaviors and refuse to take responsibility for their actions. If you are spending thousands on therapy but refuse to actually do the work to change your behaviors and only use it as an excuse to talk about yourself... You can be just as unhealthy as someone who's never even read about self help/therapeutic tools. Some people are healthy without it and good for them! Like they said, it's a privilege to be able to afford help and no one should be judged for not having access to it.
Pay attention, they’re self-exposing.
as an actual therapist (disclaimer, I'm in no way attempting to diagnose them as this is just a superficial viewing of their lives and personalities) this is not uncommon. these girls have formed an identity and self worth through therapy. It's not unlike people finding cliques and tribalistic groups in any other facet of life. You're a jock, you're an intellectual bookwork, etc etc....they found some sort of meaning and identity in therapy and now thei life revolves around it. I see it all the time these day. People looking for meaning and their place in life, only to misplace it in the process. It's mentally draining to try and navigate with these people. Especially the last generation who seems OBSESSED with freaking out over every bit of anxiety, or stress in their lives, even though humans will ALWAYS struggle with these things.
Many people can benefit from therapy (not just tooting my own horn), but not everyone NEEDS to be in therapy. Therapy can take many forms, and reality "therapy" is simply an outside perspective meant to give someone a helping hand. Not the some guru who opens up your life. A family member who is older and wiser than you can give a form of therapy, as can many other things in life. Sometimes a psychologist is needed when you're in too deep and need someone who specializes in navigating some of these issues. But holy freaking crap!!!! therapy is not a necessity all around the clock. STOP MAKING YOUR WHOLE IDENTITY AROUND MENTALL CONDITIONS!!
I just think it's weird that they would OUT someone who can self regulate who says their ok with themselves. It's almost like hearing Christians calling everyone a sinner and someone says I am OK I am not sinning. And them saying your going to hell for saying that! You are sinning! It's so weird. (I am Christian btw but ive meet these extremist sorts) I think these girls have some major insecurity issues about themselves. And they see someone as "ok" as a threat to the way their group views the world. That guy was cute, and seemed healthy and calm. You can tell he benefitted from being the outdoorsy type. It's like equating "I am broken" to "maturity". He doesn't need "help" some people are stoic and mature in themselves. They want some one to heal and save. I often want a calm strong man to save me 😂😂😂
THIS!! people don’t get that the therapist is there to ask the correct questions to get yourself to figure out your own shit (if you are self reflective enough).. but they think it’s some magical guru that will dissolve all their mental real and imaginary issues 😂
THANK YOU! i dont know why its nice to hear that some ppl in the other chair also is getting tired of the BS. and yalls pay is even somewhat improoved the more fakers there are (more patients more job opportunity that is) xD but correct me if im wrong. im guessing that having normal ppl in the chair is quite boring and provides no challenge ?
These people are crazy. Sounds like they need therapy.
@@Ntwister it depends. normal people are more satisfying in many ways because you see more happy results. the more "odd" or "extreme" patients can be very challenging to work on, but also be very difficult and trying with less stellar results. Since my focus was on marital counseling as a psychologist (personal is ALWAYS included in marital counseling, but it's always a focus on relationships vs. just being a private practice personal psychologist) you get a lot more satisfactory results with "normals".
I also feel like everyone self-diagnosing and this normalization of “everyone has some sort of mental illness” has a bad effect for those who really do have severe illnesses. I am diagnosed with anxiety, depression, and borderline personality disorder. It’s been over a year since I got diagnosed with BPD. I hate sounding dramatic, but the truth is I struggle almost every single day and have troubles controlling my emotions and thoughts. I have so many trauma responses that I’m still realizing I have, especially once it’s too late and I’ve done some damage in my life. These things affect my body and physical health. And I feel like sometimes when I am genuinely struggling and am at the edge, it’s so common now that people will say “well everyone has problems”. There’s this downplaying of those who truly struggle to live everyday lives and constantly feel like giving up, but it’s such a crushing feeling when someone brushes off a very real and potentially dangerous moment.
i also got a bpd diagnosis. everyone is "supportive" until you display symptoms (even if it's very minor, like, one single off day where you're having a harder time controlling your emotions or whatever), then suddenly you're "so toxic", "narcisistic", "displaying abusive behavior", yadda yadda yadda. anyways, im exhausted with this generation as a whole, been off social media for 3 years now (going on 4 next month) and even tho ive been lonely, at least im not being treated badly for every mistake (mistakes that everyone else makes frequently, btw. haven't done anything "omg so crazy" in a loooong while). well, im a psych major and i hate most things about it but maybe I'll be able to change it from the inside out? idk, i just want to help the people who are actually struggling. i think now im just rambling so imma stop but i hope i made even just a lick of sense haha
Take it from an aging borderline that was diagnosed nearly 20 years ago. Recognizing that our feelings (no matter how intense) are fleeting can help you before you act on them in the moment can curb some terrible behaviors before they take place. You'll find you like yourself a lot more when you don't have to apologize for bad behaviors/words so often. They're lots of studies that support that those with bpd can actually age out of some of the characteristics, too.
I spent years “working on my mental health”. Only when I disciplined myself via diet, sleep & exercise did I finally make huge strides and largely overcome my anxiety and depression. Sometimes your anxiety is there to help you, to tell you it’s time to make changes in your life. Listen to it before you resort to numbing your emotions with pills. It saved my life it could save yours too ✊🏼
That’s it. Your anxiety tells you to shit or get off the pot.
I agree with you to an extent. A huge part of working on your mental health is improving and gaining good habits. A lot of depression and anxiety symptoms can be remedied with healthy habits, but I think because so many people self diagnose and self medicate or only go to a doctor for medication, they don’t learn strategies to manage their symptoms, and they don’t learn that a huge part of managing their symptoms is the tedious, life improving tasks you have to do. For me, having a therapist is what helped me learn the combination of strategies and habits I needed to mitigate my symptoms. Diet, sleep and exercise are huge parts, but I don’t think they’re the only parts.
Bro. Meet, too, and I feel amazing. I don't think people talk about this enough.
this comment. ☝️
I was an instructor at a nursing school. And I taught mental health nursing among other subjects. I was honestly astonished at the number of students who would openly discuss their mental health and the medications and therapies they are participating in. I applauded them for getting help where needed, but I also felt as if it was a designer drug of sorts, or en vogue to say that they had "bipolar disorder" or to disclose the multiple psychiatric medications they were on. I still think about these students to this day and wonder if they truly got the help they needed or if public disclosure was a vice of sorts?
“Danielle Campbell is
honestly astonished”
You’re a straight-up poet, your name and those words go perfectly together. 😂 👏
it was LITERALLY like that 25 years ago, people were literally BRAGGING about their "mental health conditions" and the pills they got. They would talk about it with a smug arrogance.
I know this has nothing to do with this topic, but it reminds me of when I was in school, they'd brag about how long we stayed up and what time they went to sleep. Lmao. Sleep is important.
Wait a minute. I thought if you had mental episodes, you were not able to be a nurse?
Because intersectionality has created oppression olympics where many people can't move up regularly on the oppressed hierarchy so they take the "I'm mentally ill" approach.
I've been to psycholgists and therapists, and it personally never worked for me. I even tried different therapists to find one that would fit me better. After a while I just realized it wasn't for me, and found other therapeutic outlets. I don't understand how mental health is suppose to be complex according to these people, yet they prescribe a one-size-fits-all solution of "everyone needs therpy" to their peers. Perfect logic.
I think they prescribe it because, in therapy, you'll get a custom solution. With a good therapist, you'll find out what's wrong with you specifically and how to deal with it.
If you’re a guy it could explain it a lot of therapists are very female oriented more or less venting versus what males need which is venting a little having your emotions explained to you and then building a detailed game plan to solve the problem
Is not for everyone is ok
Thank you😢 I thought something was wrong with me 'coz therapy never worked for me somehow
Same. I'm pretty self aware and 95% of the time I've been able to figure out what's really ailing me all on my own better than any therapist has.
I have depression. I've never blamed it for my bad actions. I blame it for my mood and my state of mind and take responsibility for how I deal with it. I try as hard as I can to do as little harm to others as possible. When someone says they are depressed because they're a little bummed out it diminishes what I go through, and people take my depressive episodes (which are awful and I can't help it when it happens) way too lightly.
That's just it. People that DO suffer from mental illnesses will be the first ones to tell you that they don't want them. They would be the first ones to tell you the struggles of having to live your life with your own worst enemy in your own head.
If people truly saw what it was like, they wouldn't want to experience it at all.
How about the fact most of these people act like it's all on the same level. I'm depressed so that means I know exactly how you feel. Meanwhile I'm having episodes where I'm balling my eyes out and planning on how to kill myself.
Same. What’s hard is when people tell me I have so much to be grateful for. It makes me feel worse. We don’t do this on purpose and if we could end it for good we would. Stay strong. ❤
I myself had depression a few years ago and it's not something I wish upon anyone. People will always say think of things that make you happy and its like ya those things aren't making me happy nothing does. I remeber going to bed I would be praying that I would wake up in someone else's body. No one really gets what it is until they go through it
@@dianac846 and see, that is what true depression is like. It's like having a switch welded closed in your head. A switch that allows nothing but feelings of dread, self-doubt, and other bad thoughts through.
I sometimes wonder if giving every mental state a name only makes people give up on fixing the issues, thinking it's a sickness anyway so they can't be fixed.
We fucked hard in the future.
Who said sicknesses can't be cured?
They would have given up at the first sign of difficulty anyways.
Half of therapy seems to be mental health professionals keeping themselves in demand.
Sicknesses can't be cured? Rip everyone who ever got a common cold.
Aba brought up a very good point, it is dangerous to perpetuate this notion that you NEED therapy because people who can’t afford it will immediately adopt the mindset that they are screwed in life and cannot overcome mental obstacles themselves. A large portion of the population cannot afford therapy. I know this first hand, I tried therapy for a bit and a legit psychologist with a PhD will run you around $225-250 a session in Canada. Even with employer health insurance you won’t be able to go to more than a handful of sessions
I had the audacity to try getting a therapist as one of my resolutions this year. Six months later, I'm still wrestling with $1500 in medical bills for about two hours of talking to people (no actual therapy, just expressing that I'd like some)
This video was really intriguing to me. As someone who went to therapy for a couple months due to anger issues and having to deal with anger management that was caused by a traumatic event, I 100% agree with Aba and Preach. The whole experience for me felt repetitive because I realized all the answers were already in front of me and that I didn’t have to REALLY go to therapy, it just helped open my eyes and gave me a pathway to better myself. It’s annoying seeing so many people flex they are in therapy because a lot of the times (like others have commented) they don’t even need it. If people changed their diet, changed the media and news they digested and were more social, I’m sure a lot more people would not need therapy.
@Ungabunga.44yeah... You don't need therapy when you have the tools to prevent or alleviate the issues that stem from your mental trauma.
@Ungabunga.44 What? It doesn't magically go away one day. You learn how to live despite it, how to prevent it from crippling you by developing methods of coping or working through its spikes.
OMG....I'm so glad someone finally said this!! I'm in no way against therapy or acknowledging that mental illnesses can't occur. (My parents come from a generation and background that doesn't buy into psychological issues & care). However, I believe that this newer generation AND some Millennials are romantizing mental health issues like it's a fad or trend. I've been noticing this for the past 3 or 4 years. Like, that's so weird to me. Almost like it's a badge of honor to not be able to cope with the simplest uncertainties and struggles of life. Get therapy if you absolutely need it but don't make it trend....which ultimately devalues it.
as someone who watched my father go through a messy divorce and try and get given therapy to help himself mentally, it did nothing for him and made him a sadder person, we got him back into his hobbies and other outlets and it benefitted him so much better than sitting in a room talking about stuff that was getting him no where.
Thats what i tell my family all the time. They say i have mental issues and i should see a therapist but when i go and talk about my issues i never leave feeling better. Infact i usually spend the rest of the day hyper focusing on my issues and just get worse mentaly.
I find it so hilarious when people say everyone needs therapy, yet they don't accept the different forms of therapy. I used to work in Social Service Work and amongst many therapists. The people in the field are a lot more diverse than before, and are the first to admit, that conventional therapy doesn't work for everyone. One of the primary questions asked is about channeling emotions or dealing with difficult thoughts and situations... Many of the suggestions are expressing self through Art (which for a long time wasn't considered a form of therapy, until they were forced to recognize the successful impact it had), journaling, finding places that bring you peace (ie. Nature), and most importantly through discussion with someone you're comfortable with. The worry with regards to opening up/discussing certain things is that you and the person speaking, have to know how far to go, or it can be harmful to the person opening up. It takes time and patience. This notion that everyone needs therapy is true, but at different stages and in different forms. I hope that people can stop forcing it on others and then dismissing them because they don't find a need for it at the moment, because guess what, that leads to harming someone.
I was court ordered to go to therapy. Was in there for 2 years and it was extremely counterproductive for me. I'm over analytical, so every hour of therapy was equal to a week's worth of over thinking and being stagnant. Getting a life coach propelled my life forward because I was being active and constantly putting things in action. Not just talking
Good comment - I think everyone has different needs, good for you to find what works for you.
Your therapist should have been giving you actionable advice and real world skills. Frankly your therapist sucked. Like if your therapist sees you have issues setting boundaries, they should assist in developing the skills and knowledge necessary for you to set boundaries in real world situations. Glad you found a life coach that did what your therapist should have.
the only life coach a person needs is the Man Himself
@@chichioko1446Macho man Randy Savage?
@@therevanchist7066 He loves you✝️♥️
Therapists are essentially people who give you a perspective on what's going on with your mind/your life. You can get similar kind of feedback from wise people, religion, books, even stories. You don't have to fork out $100 for 1 hour to chat with a psychologist when you can find other resources for free.
The pause and look on their faces before Preach went "open relationship" 😂😂
Gold.
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"EVERYONE NEEDS A THERAPIST!" is like "original sin" in religion. Somehow even if you are just an innocent person who has not committed any crimes, you still need some other person to tell you how to be correct. No one is perfect, but we can't just say everyone is broken.
You don’t need to have committed any crimes to benefit from therapy. People act like something has to be defective about you to get therapy but thats just their projection of their own beliefs
Two completely different things. Everyone has sinned, so you need a savior since just one means you’re corrupted and need Jesus. Big difference from saying everyone needs to go to a psychologist.
No one is innocent in the Christian sense. Everything from just looking at someone with lust to lying once means you’re barred from Heaven without Jesus. If you can say you’ve never sinned, which is impossible, then you can say you are innocent in the Christian sense.
@@xaviercopeland2789Amen, perfect response 👆🏾
Ive found that the "empathy"/ empath people are some of the most toxic selfish people on the planet. They hyper focus on empathy, but miss out on SYMPATHY.
I’m very intrigued by your comment, do you mind explaining the difference between empathy and sympathy?
@@rahafalkhaldi1897I noticed people often don't know the differences of these words. To empathize with someone means that you have actually experienced something similar to them, thus you can understand what they are going through. To sympathize with someone means that most likely you haven't experienced what they experienced but you still can understand why they may feel or do the things do because of whatever happened; can also call it pitying someone. Now someone who claims to be an empath is someone can take someone's else emotions and go through those same emotions. Like think of when you are with someone for long time and start talking in similar way that they talk. Empaths take on the emotions of other people, so if someone is sad they will be sad and so on...
100% the reason why is because they usually aren't empathetic at all. People forget that it's not about just going through similar things, it's also about understanding. Unfortunately these young people these days truly lack understanding yet like to use all these mental health buzz words. Like if you claim everyone needs therapy then you are lacking in understanding, because therapy are for people that are unable to find mental peace in themselves through their own methods.
sympathy means to feel sorry for or pity, it’s more condescending and judgmental. Empathy is the kinder more helpful because it involves putting yourself in someone else’s shoes.
In my experience people who go on and on about empathy tend to weaponize it like "oh I would feel empathy in this situation but I guess I'm a good person" in a sarcastic tone
I sought therapy for my hardships. He didn’t tell me anything new or changed how I handle myself or interact with others. He simply agreed and encouraged what I was doing. After a few months I stopped scheduling, it was at least good to know. But never believed it’s necessary for everyone.
Today people are too comfortable using mental health buzzwords like narssist, anxiety or OCD or even self diagnosis which ruins the meaning. Just because you met a selfish asshole doesn’t mean they are narcissistic, or just because you do some things a little off doesn’t automatically make you autistic. Mental health has turned into a competition to make people feel more important. It used to be to post on Instagram for the likes but now it is to see how many mental health badges you can get to garner the most sympathy and get social brownie points
I think everyone has turned into a wanna be psychologist. I almost dated a girl who had saved an entire list of self-diagnosed conditions and tendencies that I should read up on before dating her.
it's not about feeling important. It's about feeling happy that they feel happy to feel they can blame an so called "uncontrollable" reason for why they act up in society or do weird things.
Same with rape, sexual herasmenet, racaist, mysoginist etc. etc.
Psychology is the new Astrology. While psychology at least has a little evidence behind some of it, the people talking about it don't actually seem to understand it.
I'm a robot 🤖 therapist. Whenever they throw a tantrum and don't do what they're supposed to I throw their asses in teach mode, home them, then send them to a maintenance position. This usually refreshes whatever BS operation they were wrongly trying to execute. I'm running a test trial on humans next week. Since everyone should be in therapy, we have several free appointments open. FANUK, we are here for your brains 🧠...., wellness😈😊
I work with a female who, whenever someone gives her advice or pulls her up for messing up she starts crying.
So much so that when the boss spoke to her she said she'd top herself if she lost her job.
Everyone avoids her. Yes, she has serious issues but through the years she has weapnoised it to insulate her from perceived threats.
Its fked.
Her ass would be outta there immediately if she was a dude.
Your boss is wrong for letting her blackmail him like that into keeping her job. I make it very clear to anyone who weaponizes suicide threats that it doesn't work on me. I will do what I do, and if you end your own life that's on you. Let them know you'll have zero guilt over it. You'd be upset, obviously, but not responsible.
@@zusk8556 i hear ya. The worst thing is we work in a high risk industry. Coal seam gas. She drives a truck.
We've all expressed our frustrations to various ppl in management, they're at a loss as to what to do. They're not just worried about her 'threat' but the litigation if they move her on. Shes in her 50s too so its a tool she has finely tuned over the years. Im actually the mental health first aider and i stay well clear of her. She doesn't want to confront things so i cant help her
2023 feelings trump safety.
It sure will be interesting to see how it plays out
I was clinically diagnosed with depression and social anxiety, but I hated my first therapist. I also can no longer afford it, so I’ve found other outlets to help. I love journaling or meditating and doing yoga. I advocate from therapy, but I don’t think it’s always a necessity.
The fact that you cannot afford it does not take away the fact that it's a necessity. The problem is that healthcare coverage does not fully take into account legitimate needs such as therapy.
@@hcironman9196 well I guess now we need to define "necessity". I would say that on a social level, healthcare in general is indeed a necessity that everybody should have access to, right? The fact there are coping mechanisms available in absence of healthcare do not negate its need. I think the same applies to mental healthcare, a.k.a. therapy
@zntx depends on your insurance company my blue collar ass job's insurance covers it mostly as long as the doctor falls under the BCBS umbrella
In NZ therapy costs like 110 dollars for an hours session. That’s a lot of money
I drive rideshare and on the back of my headrests I have the stickers "I am not a licensed therapist....but im willing to listen. No copay/fees, 100 percent confidentiality, who's gonna know". Ive learned that some people really just want someone to " hear them out "and/or offer some good open minded, non bias advice versus judging them, jumping to conclusions, or being a cruel person gaslighting them. We all have things going on in our lives and sometimes... we all just need a good ear to hear us out to " restore our calm". Someone is going to see this and know exactly who I am
As someone who has been diagnosed with BPD, I completely agree with everything you've said! Some people have NO IDEA what true mental illness is and they throw things around just to sound "apart of" and it's bullshit because people with SERIOUS issues like i have can't reach doctors because "sad" people run to hospitals and places taking up space just because they might be at a low point. Everyone wants a disorder or illness nowadays its truly devastating because I would do ANYTHING to change having my mental health issues! ❤ love you guys 😊
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My brother has bpd and I’ve seen him at his worse, it’s super distressing especially since atm he can’t even afford to see his therapist, this shit pisses me off so bad. Especially when they just stereotype with their google searched symptoms 🤦🏽♀️
Therapy is for people struggling to cope or make sense of stuff they are struggling with. I go to therapy because I struggle with forming good habits, coping with stress, and low self esteem. My therapist doesn’t do “inner child work”…. She helps me develop a routine for chores, work productivity, she taught me breathing exercises for when I feel overwhelmed. For self esteem she gives me journaling prompts and we do affirmations together. She also talks me through scenarios I bring up to her that highlight my self esteem issues and she gives me her perspective so I can think about myself and my actions in more positive way. We don’t do woo woo shit, it’s all very practical. Some people do don’t struggle with self esteem or already know healthy ways to cope with life so they don’t really need therapy.
The only people who need “inner child work” are those who had traumatic childhoods. If you had a normal childhood, you don’t need to focus on it. Too many people these days make different mental health issues “a trend” and it just harms people even more. I’m glad you’ve figured out what’s best for you.
@@kadebebesis4204 Exactly. Therapy is great. I would recommend it to anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s NEEDED for everyone. I have tremendous admiration for people who have developed healthy coping mechanisms on their own and can regulate their emotions, who have high confidence.
@@janiegetyourgun Maybe just needed some good friends
I appreciate that you wrote that to express that your therapy was needed or important but in my opinion it sounds like you just need good friends or a circle that can hold you accountable
I spent 25 years of my 37 year life, with a "best friend" claiming he was BPD. I was diagnosed with BPD 3 years ago, and realized that my so called best friend has NPD and Bipolar. he was using me and my mental state to mimic my personality. he wouldn't ever self harm or admit his own faults, it was always everyone around him that was wrong, never him. in the last year or so I have been taken accountability of my own self, and I agree, that we all need an outlet but some of us truly need a Psychologist. your guys are awesome and love to hear your points of view. Keep it going, woot!
As someone who was depressed, having an outlet for your stress is the number one thing to help someone get over that. You wanna be happy in life? You need a hobby to help relieve stress. Also talking about your feelings helps. Those two things combined is what helped me. It wasn’t going to a therapist.
16:18 "men do conspiracy theories, women do astrology... not much difference" LOL IM SO GLAD I STUMBLED UPON YA'LL CHANNEL.
Although some conspiracy theories are true
Exercise and being out in nature is my therapy.
Therapy doesnt really do anything for me at all, its not bad or anything just useless. My most useful things by far were not being stubborn and a hippy bore about trying medications to see what worked for me (sertraline/citalopram) and exercise, generally while camping out in the woods.
exercise is powerful because it can pull you out of a depressive episode nearly straight away.
Everyone can benefit from therapy but not everyone "needs" it. Everyone doesn't necessarily relate to talk therapy either. I'm a clinician and I feel like mental health is being pushed too much. Its not the be all and end all.
YES 👏
Let me be clear, this is about as typical of Seattle as it gets. I’ve lived here my whole life, and over the past 10 years, Seattle basically changed into a giant pile of people like this. Everybody has a personality, but makes it their goal to make sure that everybody knows exactly what their personality is, and why it’s justified, rather than just being happy with themselves and others.
I'm from spokane and unfortunately a lot of these MF's are headed here now 😒
Don't get me wrong it's not nearly as bad as Seattle thank god, but still worse than 5 years ago
Man, lived in washington for 20 plus years. It's like this all over. I'm currently trying to figure out a way to gtfo because it's not as chill and laid back people say it is. And don't even get me started on trash the dating life is here as a straight dude. The ladies here are straight up unpleasant, unapproachable and immature.And then trying to make friends is a bitch and a half as because it seems like every one is fake af and then to top it all off,you have to deal with head cases like some of the people in this video. My overall opinion : fuck washington state.
Yeah these are about the most unattractive women I've ever seen in my in life terms of personality
All the weirdos have been flooding into what was once a normal city over the last decade. That’s all this is. Lived here my whole life. The people from Seattle are not like this. It’s the fucking transplants who can’t freely be weird in their home towns. Seattle has become a haven for weirdos and bums.
That therapy part is sick to me. If I went to therapy for every time where I felt somewhat depressed, sad, moody, whatever - I'd be broke real quick.
As a therapist said therapy is really just listening to someone and not judging them. And its something that really should be done, in an ideal world, by those close to you. Not by “professionals” who need to “diagnose” you.
I agree with you 💯 %
I would agree partly. The average person just needs someone to listen to them without judgement. However, if you are schizophrenic, bipolar, or any of the major mental illnesses, then they NEED to be in therapy to be treated so they can live an average / normal life.
@@kadebebesis4204I think it's helpful for people to go to therapy for issues that run deeper than family/friends can comprehend or deal with properly. like, upbringing, self-hatred, etc. therapists are way more likely to ask the right questions or give the right direction to sort out that complex puzzle of you, if that's what you need to do. lending an ear is incredibly important and a lot of the time someone just needs a friend, but other times they need someone who knows what they're doing.
They’re obsessed with it because it’s trendy/cool to say “I have a mental health problem” or “I’m autistic”. I noticed this when I compared the fact that the rates of autism are skyrocketing in younger generations but when you go online,saying you’re autistic gets you supoort or saying “I had an autistic moment” can get you likes or just general online appreciation
Or maybe peopke just want to find online support?
@@SubZero-hs9xc But there’s outlets for that that aren’t TikTok or Instagram or even Only Fans,why is social media the number #1 place to go if you need that support? 😒
I've noticed this as well in the last year. There's a lot more people online talking about how they're "displaying symptoms of autism".
Personally to me, seems like many folks are taking ordinary human behaviors and assuming it's "undiagnosed autism" (being socially awkward, being very interested in certain topics, etc.).
@@SubZero-hs9xcif you really think the statistics show real rise in the number of autistic people , and all those people are not actually self diagnosed kids , then i have a garage to sell you my man
@@me-jd2kya man isn't a giga Chad socialite & prefers to think about & work with "things" instead of people? Gotta be autism. Person gets really into a new topic they find fascinating? Can't be natural curiosity & intrigue, it's gotta be autism.
It’s sad to see so many young adults around my age needing to fall on the crutch of mental health just so that can use it as an excuse to not be responsible for anything they do, or worse, to not do anything to make their lives better.
As someone who has actually been formally diagnosed at a young age (and subsequently when I got older) with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, it's upsetting because then people dismiss me as if it's fake
Y’all SPITTING!!! I have diagnosed ptsd and bi polar disorder. I come from a family of addicts and mental illness. I’m medicated and doing very well for myself, therapy doesn’t work for me just cause I don’t like talking about my problems to someone it’s weird lol. I journal, paint, workout, focus on college etc. that’s my therapy. Because of todays trends of self diagnosing it takes away and invalidates those who are diagnosed. Like Aba said “I have bpd because I get mad” 🙄 it’s like the boy who cried wolf…
Its acutally not recommended to use talking therapy when you have trauma, as you can retraumatise yourself , but there is different kind of therapies beside the talking useless one .
I am glad youvare doing better 💪
Great comment. Go!
@@noneofyourbuizness let's not go that far in saying "useless"
I know what you mean. I tried therapy 12 years ago and it was very cringe. That was also the last time I tried making friends, and doing stuff that normal people do, like meds, also didn't work for me.
i tried therapy a couple different times off doctors recommendation, both therapists told me im already too self aware of the roots of my childhood trauma and causes of my anxiety to need therapy. just like rehab, it doesn’t work for everyone.
Therapy works when you do. If you work without the therapy, you already did it.
This is why getting a legit therapist who is qualified is important
but the point is that not everyone needs a therapist
Legit is key
@@pabloescobarschanclas for sure
Not only qualified, but relevant and fitting to that person and their situation. A “qualified” therapist could be the “right” therapist in theory, but not in practice. Someone like me needs a therapist that has certain specializations and training. However, none of that matters if they aren’t also capable of being blunt and honest with me, like I make explicitly clear during our test session, and also “in the know” when it comes to modern problems the younger generation faces. A Boomer that bluntly gives Boomer advice is not going to help me. A Millennial that pussyfoots about giving me relevant advice is not going to help me. Hence why it’s important to shop around and try out different therapists before finding one that truly fits, but I guess people on both sides just conveniently forgot that part. This video is a miss.
@Omnihilo they did speak on finding the right one. However, all that moving ain't good either. But to each as it's own.
As someone who has to deal with mental illness and is in and out of mental institions, shit like this drives me up the wall. My entire life is controlled by my afflictions and is isnt a trend and it's not a joke. And because of everyone thinking they have things when they don't, it makes people desensitized to real issues, and they dont treat the people who really need help seriously at all. It's sickening, and makes it harder for people like me to get real help. Doesnt help that a lit of therapists and doctors subscribe to this also. Probably so they can get people on meds, which makes money for them
I agree. I think people intentionally ignore the money-making aspect of medical care and therapeutic care. It’s upsetting that mental illness is a trend or a label people attach to themselves any time they experience slight discomfort or distress (especially when it’s short-lived) and I think people have become really desensitized to a lot of mental illness. Now everyone has anxiety or depression 😕
I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist with PTSD and I have for over 10 years struggled with the admittance of saying I have an issue. Even only my family and husband knows. It's been very isolating. I can't leave the house by myself or I'm terrified. People who treat it with such flippant attitudes, like it's a cool quirky thing, absolutely disgust me.
Self therapy has been my whole life. I grew up in a fucked up child hood so I had to figure it out. It would've helped me if I had talked to a therapist early on, but I don't need it and haven't needed it for many years now. I learned a lot by doing it on my own. It was tougher, but that's how you learn more and I'm so much stronger on my own. If someone or something happens to me in a way that really messes me up, I can stand strong and know I will have the power to overcome. People give up their power so early and so easily, especially in the USA.
That's great that it worked out for you. For everyone that's not the case sometimes therapy helps some ppl some ppl can "figure it out on their own" and that's fine
i am the exact same.
I totally get your point, If I got therapy...lets be honest...just some safe space and some one who have told me, that its wrong what happened to me, when I was still a child or young teen. It would have had the greatest impact.
But most things in live are like back flips, if you dont learn it until you are 25, good luck.
@@crystalbrown6619 I get your point as well, but looking back... even with therapy you have to kind of figure it out on your own. Do you know anyone for whome therapy on its own made a difference.
I have the feeling that for many its just a place where they can talk about their BS without any consequences.
@@westphalianstallion4293 I think it's idiotic in itself to think that therapy is one thing and one thing only. If some people use it as a way to talk about BS without consequences, then they most likely are benefiting from it since they pay out -of-pocket for it. It is disheartening to see how so many people play into what generations before us have thought about therapy.
If it is not for you, great. It doesn't however make it whatever misconstrued idea you have been fed over and over. People study years, and earn many degrees to learn techniques to essentially create plans to help people work through specific traumas. That is therapy.
Therapist here. Not everyone "needs" therapy, but everyone could benefit from therapy.
I totally agree with Aba though, there is a large amount of projection, entitlement and cringe going on here. 😬
Edit: The best outcomes come from daily physical fitness, proper sleep and diet!
100% agree
As someone who has BPD diagnosed, I don't go to therapy, I learn by taking a step back and looking at myself on how I can improve.
I just went to the forest like this guy and calmed down when i thought about therapy i checked the prices and i was like 'i better go out more' then i exercised and got a job talked to people watched a lot of videos about helping understanding life itself as a person this really helped put my life together,got me feeling the best i felt in 10 years. So just focus on yourself with all the positivity and self love and BE patient is not going to work in a week or a month it might take years but you better start before the life that you should have had goes away like it was nothing. Don't choose pain, choose your future where you can smile and enjoy your daily life.
When I'm feeling down I come here to listen to Preach's laughter. It's therapy
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I concur.
I had some difficult times that made me disassosciate from society and contemplate Alt F4. I might've needed therapy at some point, but I could never afford it. I did the alternative by working out, eating better, being outside more, getting back to school, catching up with some old friends, and talking to my family. And now, I'm much better. Therapy is not the only option to fixing yourself, or at least making your mental state a little bit better.
Well... Another part of the problem is the misconception that "therapy" is the same thing as going to a therapist. It isnt. Therapy simply means a process of healing. Therapists are only necessary when the patient literally doesnt know how to do that themselves, and needs guidance from a professional.
It's like how a gym coach or physical trainer might know enough about their own body, that if they get injured, they might be able to self administer physical therapy, and get better without ever having to see a physical therapist... But someone who's out of shape, and doesnt understand their own body, might need one because they dont know how to heal the same injury.
Pretty much everyone "needs" mental therapy at some point in their lives, but that absolutely is not the same thing as this st@pid idea that everyone needs to GO to a therapist.
A healthy adult should be self aware enough, and know the bare minimum amount of psychology necessary to form coping strategies on their own to get through the tough times... Thats exactly what you did... And that could be referred to as self administered therapy.
Others are so far gone and so inept and self reflection that they need an actual therapist to help guide them.
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Even people who go to therapists dont necessarily recieve therapy. Mental healing requires a huge amount of effort on the part of the patient, and a motivation to actually self improve.
Some narcissists and psychopaths use therapy and more acceptable mental health issues as a smoke screen, and convenient excuse for sh@tty behavior. These are people who want the victimhood of more sympathetic mental health issues, and the appearance of self improvement, while intending to pay a monthly fee to a therapist for the next 70 years with no intention of actually improving.
A good example, I dated this chick for a week who claimed to be autistic... But it felt off. I've been around autistic people a lot, and she didnt really seem like it. She was socially incompetent, but... Almost seemingly willfully cruel and carefree about it. In my experience, autistic people dont usually mean offense, usually arent very aware when they do say something off, and when someone informs them, theyre often remorseful about it, whether they understand their social faux pas or not.
What she told me later... And in hindsight, this is pretty disturbing... Apparently she was initially diagnosed with BPD (or, more in her words, "psychopathy"... But she was likely told BPD with the behaviors normally associated psychopathy in laymen vernacular. Psychopathy sociopathy arent really proper diagnoses, but their general behaviors fall under BPD). She felt that was a "misdiagnosis"... So she went to a different shrink who ALSO diagnosed her with BPD... Then she went to another... Then another... She said she went to literally 15 shrinks who all gave her a BPD diagnosis before finally finding one who gave her the "right" diagnosis of "autism".
... Is it just me, or does that sound more like finding out something about yourself that you really dont like, then brute forcing the medical system to get a more socially acceptable diagnosis? Misdiagnosis does happen... But really?... 15 shrinks conclude youre manipulative, and you claim the diagnosis of the 16th? And isnt learning what answers to actually give in "therapy" to get a shrink to give you that diagnosis... Isnt that a very untreated BPD thing to do?
And her behavior not long after that I began to realize was a lot more consistent with BPD. I've also been around a bunch of people who have that as well (usually on the recieving end of abusive relationships.... But also my best friend has it, but he's one of the few who's actually self aware about it and tries to manage it).
Among other things, she excused literally everything, from dominating conversation in our college class, to having zero filter with mostly negative things to say about and to others, to her "inability" to get a drivers license, with "autism". Theres a lot of behaviors I wont get into that screamed manipulator as well, but needless to say, I was done with her by the third date, and regretted even giving her that much patience.
This was a person who learned how to game the mental health system the more she engaged with it, to find a convenient excuse for sh@tty behavior, and have it literally justified by a professional. There literally wasnt any helping this person, given she was motivated enough to plow through expensive therapists to find one to change her diagnosis. How can anyone call what she was getting "therapy"? If she were really getting therapy out of it, she would have stopped at a second or third opinion, accepted she has BPD, and worked on managing it from that position.
And the worst part?... She was in school to become a therapist... To "help" people like her... Even though she practically went out of her way to make it clear to me she sees most people as objects.
Going to therapists isnt the same thing as therapy. Some creeps just go to better learn how to manipulate others.
Genuine therapy comes from within, ALWAYS. Sometimes that is done without any help (which is what you did, as a healthy self starter), and sometimes it's done with outside help (which is what people who grow after visiting a therapist do). But it ALWAYS comes from within. These morons who think going to a therapist in perpetuity IS therapy, are doomed to never improve their lives, because they see making a show of mental health as more important than actually improving ones mental being by any means necessary. Even for those who do need outside help, a good therapist should be aiming to ween you off of it with coping strategies and education on basic psychology and self reflection.
I think part of the problem is in the US, we have a for profit mental health and pharmaceutical system. Although some therapists are genuinely good at their jobs and genuinely try to heal their patients... There's actually far more financial incentive to resort to drugs first, and give half baked therapy so your patient has reason to see you regularly in perpetuity.
I have been saying for years that people are using therapy for every little thing, like taking meds for every little thing. I think most people can just get by with talking to friends an family. Sadly, many people now have been so conditioned towards therapy even friends and family will recommend a therapist rather than just take things out.
I'm 23 and every therapist I've been to just doesn't work out. Woman have probably popularized going to therapy and I find that therapists try to help everyone the same way. It really ain't it chief.
I’ve always thought therapy is an odd concept. Like, I can’t see my self telling a stranger all of my problems and expecting them to help me.
@@ChelleSimonexactly, how is someone who barely knows you supposed to really care about you and help you.. it would take years and that’s a lot of money
I get more out of 20 minutes of jujutsu than 20 hours of therapy, find your outlet king
Then you arent going to the right therapy
Therapy lot of times are just people telling you things you already know but won't accept that's all
I've been to therapy and it did NOT work for me. It made it worse. People handle things differently, some people might just prefer to handle things by themselves. Also it's very dangerous to think that therapists are some amazing godlike beings when they are humans and some therapists can give really bad advice, like mine, totally invalidated me and ignored my ocd
Honestly depends what you go for, some therapists do affirmation well and some are more solution focused and they don't focus on making you feel better, it completely depends on which one you choose. I've personally had no success with any.
90% are charlatan’s
So are medical doctors but you’d never write about them like that?
As someone with OCD, I can only imagine how difficult it must've been for you when that therapist invalidated your symptoms. That would truly ruin me if someone did that when I was at my lowest. Hope you're doing better now 🤗
@@chrizzlybearlolwhy not?
Bro, I looked away for like a minute and looked back at the screen to Preach staring DEEP in my soul at 14:41
Haha
I’m a part of the younger generation that uses mental illness too, but I don’t think you were talking about me. My ADHD has ruined my life so much. If it wasn’t for my family I would probably be a bum. Half the times I think my ADHD is going to put me there still. I say this to say, that finding out about my illness has given me a connection to others who thankfully understand what I go through. It makes it a little easier. Plus now I can understand why I am the way I am and fix it if possible. I probably talk about my adhd so much you might think I’m faking if you didn’t know me, but the only reason I do is it help others understand not to beat themselves up about it how I deal with mine so they can understand how to work with it. I’m sure a lot of people would rather not tell I soul, but I want to, so I can help as many people as I can, only issue is it feels impossible to figure it out. That’s it. I know you know this, but I just wanted to say this to show I’m one of real ones.
I think there’s a useful analogy between therapists and personal trainers. If you have never set foot in a gym, didn’t play sports growing up, and don’t have a friend group that will show you how to lift getting a personal trainer could be a good idea. Similarly if you didn’t learn how to process emotions, build relationships, and generally feel contented then you should consider a therapist. Of course both options are expensive and you can also do quite a bit by finding other outlets that will teach you similar skills for low costs like group fitness classes for physical health, or some physical world hobbies/community for mental health.
I’m a big fan of therapy but I find having a supportive and cohesive friend and family group is good 99% of the time, I’ve been through hard times and I’ve opened up about it to my friends and family and been vulnerable with them and it’s helped me get past it without the need for therapy.
In the type of friend group like the one in the video, opening up to family and friends would be considered 'trauma dumping' and they'd advise seeking therapy instead.
I go to church. It's free, you have an outlet where people don't condemn you, you have a community and it's a place to grown both mentally and spiritually. I've done therapy in the past and it was very helpful. But compared to my church, it's true, therapy is a privilege. Where do poor people go? Where are their outlets? Honestly it comes across as a bit smug when they look down at someone who doesn't go to therapy when have people who can't afford therapy.
I've had too many bad experiences with most churchgoers. Even though I am a Christian, I don't attend & likely will never again. Maybe someday I'll be able to convince a group of churchgoers that we can fellowship while serving the community instead, but so far it hasn't happened & boy have I tried.
Religion is a lie but if it helps people out then it’s whatever.
Confessional is free therapy.
@@yingyang7448is it? We tell ourselves loads of fanciful tales about right and wrong, good and evil, truth and falsehoods all day every day about a hundred things.
If you take one step beyond the "guy in the sky", pretty much everything else is an introspection into human behavior that, the older I get, the more true it rings.
@@bbbbbbb51I feel for you man. I'm lucky enough to have had a great community ever since childhood but I've seen so much of the opposite. Hope you find a good group eventually
Never did therapy the best thing for me mentally was starting hiking, outdoor activities, hobbies, etc. Other people I know did therapy and the only thing they do is constantly post on facebook, insta, snap, on twitter or tik tok adding to their depression and wondering why they are miserable.