The fact that the Real is all POC why do nearly half of the girls get confused w these convos, Loni broke down the difference between cultural appropriation w assimilation perfectly she really impressed me and saved the segment
Loni didn't impress me here. The other hosts brought up different aspects of the topic, and Loni kept repeating the same statement that didn't even answer their questions.
Statistically, most lottery winners are broke again within 10 years or less. I would hire a financial advisor, a therapist, and seriously consider changing my name if I won hundreds of millions of dollars. Why do people assume becoming rich overnight will automatically bring peace of mind? The people who've actually experienced say it is the opposite!
That’s why you need to be on the same vibrational frequency as what you desire. If you aren’t you will lose it because you’re not mentally in that place already. If your vibration does match, the you will be fine.
@@sashajolie8995 This is absolutely correct but being broke tends to throw people's sense of alignment and their vibration way off. Being unable to live in gratitude for what one does have, however little is a real vibration killer, too.
AvecPoésie yes that’s true. That’s why it takes practice and not giving up. All it takes is for you to get in perfect alignment for a while then you manifest millions of dollars. You have to get rid of limiting beliefs and doubt. Listen to binaural Beats. Raise your vibration. You’ll get there
They pay her 3M a season and now they trying to pay her 1M and adrianne and Jeannie get paid 300k a season and lannie gets paid 1M so she like hell nahh
Adrienne really pissed me off in this. Whenever it comes to the Kardashians she gets an attitude and dosen't listen to any of her co-hosts opinion or concerns. If someone did this with a Hispanic tradition she would probably have a whole different attitude. She has the right to have her opinion but also needs to chill tf out
i thought i was the only one that noticed omg! adrienne had a whole attitude in this segment. i’m thinking the kardashian’s have an NDA against her, because there’s no way she’s going so hard for her exes family that slapped her on national television like this!! the kardashian’s are known for having nda’s so
One of the problems I have with their questions is that they’re acting like Loni is the spokesperson for the black community. Tamera out of all people should’ve understood that.
I think maybe because Loni is the only full black woman and tamera is half white so they feel Loni knows more. But idk I would love to see an Indian woman and a white woman just because I feel all women relate to eachother and would bring so much more to the table 🥰🌹✨🤍💝♥️💖
why was this so hard for adrienne to understand!!!! (I really am not trying to be hateful towards ade I'm genuinely confused but not everything can be explained in short segments such as these)
Adrienne made a good point even if many refuse to see it which is this: her sister, who won’t make money off of her locks and wore it simply bc she likes it, got so much hate comments for it. Where do ppl draw the line? It seems like they don’t know how to and just flip out regardless.
No. I’m glad Adrienne spoke the truth. There’s a hypocrisy with the black community and everyone just need to sit down and shut up. Black people don’t give credit to Caucasians for wearing straight wigs etc. black people need to realize that they’re not gods.
@@MarianSylla Straight hair is not a monopoly for caucasians, it doesn't make sense to give credit. There's asians (literally BILLIONS of people) and first nations/natives, latinx with naturally straight hair. Almost the entire world leans over on the straight hair side, minus black people. That's why they've been discriminated against in the workplace.
Gurleen Minhas okay so if we follow your logic, we must give credit to those people then for every freaking hairstyle we make. Also know that the straightening of black hair came from the slavery era which was more acceptable and considered more “beautiful”. The point I was trying to make is that a lot of black people just find the shittiest things to complain about and expect the rest of the world to always treat them special when they’re not willing to do the same for others.
Maybe because she always gets hit with a triple edge sword. Black people call her a hypocrite because she’s half white and with a white man. White people dont view her as white unless she screams MAGA. And now all of us are complaining that she stops and listens before forming an opinion (which we all should strive to do)
I can't stand Tamera's silence on racism!!! I know people berate her because she has a white husband or they act like she can't speak about it because she's mixed but if you know you're black, you know you have the right to speak about what affects black people. What bothers me and I think many others is the fact that people criticize her about motherhood all the time but that never stops her from constantly speaking about it. She always sees and addresses issues from the perspective of a woman who's a mother, why can't she do the same with regards to race. How can you watch your people being victimized and not address it?!?! It doesn't matter if you father or your husband is white, absolutely nothing is wrong with that, what's wrong is not defending injustice when you see it or hear it, especially when you have the kind of platform she has.
I know Kendal hair isn’t naturally like that but you can get white women who’s hair is like an Afro but that doesn’t even look like an Afro personally it looks more Victorian.
Oh no baby, Adrien must really be scared of the kardashians. Bruh why is so hard to understand that it’s wrong for someone to claim your culture. Lonnie handle her real good. And I caught that shade Jennie or however you spell her name when she was talking about Nikki.
Idk what Adrienne's deal was here. She was rude, disrespectful, and acted as if this was nothing to be upset about and was "hard to understand".... #overit If someone did this to the Hispanic culture she would've FLIPPED OUT. I have no idea why she's acting like she doesn't understand this. Just because your sister did something doesn't mean it makes it right either
I know this is old but 1. I’m glad Loni checked Adrienne about that attitude and educated her. 2. I love Tamera but I’m glad she’s leaving because she gets away with just sitting quiet in the corner on topics like these all the time it’s irritating. Idk why she had to ask loni that question at the end which she could have answered herself, you wearing a whole afro😒 (girl you’re still black, you can speak on this!) 3. This is a moment I really wish Amanda was on the show, I know she would have brought so much sense to the table that Loni was trying but couldn’t fully articulate on her own (and I would have loved to see her shut Adrienne down when she said “you know there’s white people that naturally have hair like that right?” girl bye😒. I didn’t need to see this, this just got me pissed off all over again 🤦🏾♀️
Braids are mentioned in our Hadith. Our profit Mohammed wore them himself and it’s also mentioned that woman wore “ tightly braided hair” too. This was narrated from 1400 years ago.
I agree, I always thought she had a good grasp on this type of stuff, but it only shows only black people truly knows black issues. I still like her though but she needs to be educated, gonna tell Loni she's wearing Jeeni hair...girl!
Why? Adrienne made a good point even if many refuse to see it which is this: her sister, who won’t make money off of her locks and wore it simply bc she likes it, got so much hate comments for it. Where do ppl draw the line? It seems like they don’t know how to and just flip out regardless.
Judy Knefati The reason people were telling her that was culture appropriation was because her sister used black face and her family was ok with it. And her and her family wore dreadlocks, braids etc. as fashion. They have never use it because of our culture and her sister renamed cornrows as bo derek braids. Chile atp you just acting ignorant if that doesn’t tell you she shouldn’t wear it.😐
TaBria Chanel I didn’t hear the part where she said she wore blackface, obviously if she did that that’s disgusting and disrespectful. But if someone does love a trend from a specific culture and wants to try it, why would they get hate for it? So long as they’re being respectful I mean.
This is why I always want them to include when the video was filmed. I'm glad Adrienne mentioned that it was 2018. I wonder if she has more clarity on the subject now.
I come from the middle east, in our traditions and history we are famous with the cat eye eyeliner, i don't feel offended when i see other people from other cultures do this style of makeup but i get offended when they start taking credit for it, this is exactly the kardashians do Ps: sorry if i my grammar is bad 😅
They were acting as if it was a new trend once Kim K wore the cornrows. When black people wear cornrows, it is looked at as ghetto or not something that you should wear out in public, but when Kim K wore it, it got more attention and she got credit for making the style a trend when cornrows have been happening for years.
My family’s jewish so my mom and my aunt have actual ‘Afros’ that’s their natural hair and they have to use the same styling products that are marketed toward black women. My mom gets a weave when she doesn’t wanna deal w her natural hair. Super curly hair is not exclusive to one race.
Taniyah Grant aw no it’s fine:) I don’t even know the word for it, neither of them are really in my life but they have super frizzy, tight curls. their hair legit grows out rather than down.
babymoonlight / oh great I didn’t want you to misunderstand and that sounds like they have type 3a or 3b hair. Thank you for answering my question. May you have a blessed day❤️❤️❤️
Y’all saying y’all disagree with Adrienne but no one is saying why. I think she brings up a good point. First off social media will be mad at any and everything so let’s start there. But should black ppl have a problem with other people who are not famous and not making money off of a hairstyle rocking a traditional black hair style? Idk. I for one think they be looking a mess with locs or braids bc their hair isn’t meant for it and doesn’t take it well. But one could say black hair isn’t meant to be beat into submission with perms and flat irons and our hair is being damaged by bad weaves and wigs and it’s snatching our edges out. And we talk about white ppl wearing our hairstyles but what would we do if the Chinese, Malaysian, or Brazilian people were like “ok fine then give us our hair back.” What would we do then? I’m not saying these are my thoughts but I think they are valid and need to be talked about. Black ppl are very sensitive about hair culture and we have every right to be. We have had so many culture vultures in our community taking and taking and not giving anything back or adding anything to the culture. So we are a little sensitive.
Hi, I totally understand your sentiments and agree with some of it but here's a nuance I think your comment misses: Black people (women) HAD to straighten their hairs, wear straight wigs or weaves to get accepted in the corporate world and conform to societal standards of beauty. You cannot just say to black people that they should abandon overnight all the indoctrination of what beautiful hair looks like or what acceptable corporate hair looks like. That choice infrastructure wasn't afforded to black people from the start. People of other races now can choose to make hairstyles that are culturally identical to what black people wear and get admired for it. Black people did not (and in some places still do not) have this luxury. People from other races can choose to wear hairstyles that are predominantly natural to black people, but black people almost did not have that choice when they (we) were indoctrinated into thinking and seeing straight hair, weaves and wigs as beautiful and acceptable in the corporate environment. Loni says this when she says a lot of places would not hire black people in afros. Amanda Seales says this in an interview after she left the real about how the producers sometimes told her her hairstyles were "not corporate enough" (basically too black) for daytime TV. Heck, there are several news cases of black people being sent home from school for wearing afros. Chloe x Halle talked about how they had to buy wigs when they were younger because they were not getting picked for roles when they had their locs.
This hair thing and culture appropriation seems a bit of a stretch for me. I’m really trying to objectively understand (and I’m black) but i cannot. Blacks wears blond hair, straight hair everyday why hasn’t that ever been a problem? One thing I understand is that its not about the hair it’s because it’s the Kardashians.
It hasn't been a problem because that is societies standards. When a black woman such as yourself wears an afro what will people say? Its nappy, ghetto, you didn't have money to get your hair done. But Kim k does it and its edgy, Trendy...do you get it? Black people HAVE to straighten hair because otherwise we'd get turned down from jobs publicly scrutinized by other races and even our own brainwashed people. Hate when people ADRIENNE uses the straight hair argument when its literally a societal standard.
@@readyroc7845 I get what you're saying but I also think Black women will wear a straight silky weave and say it's a "protective style" when they never wear their real hair out.
@@fizzybizzy3790 That goes to my point, SOME black women may use an excuse that's its a "protective style" only because they don't want to admit that they are abiding by the European standard of beauty, but can you blame them when all of their lives they've been told their natural hair is ugly and unkempt. Theres a lot of layers to this, and for Adrienne to use her sister as a blanket representation of culture appropriation is just not factual in the grand scheme of things.
Sometimes I feel like Loni isn’t the person you should go to with these questions. She had the opportunity to educate her hosts and others, and she just kept repeating the same statement.
Well first spell her name right if you gon throw shade SUN SHINE. Second of all Tamera has to battle racism from both sides everyday with being born mixed to being married to a white man and raising mixed children. Don’t mistake her positivity for not owning her “blackness”. It’s ppl like you that are part of the problem.
@@iacobus4227 tf who was throwing shade lmao that’s what she does. The topic could be about mistreatments of Latinos and she’ll make it about herself/her family or again she’ll just be mute to the topic and let’s everyone else speak. LACOBUS🙄
Everyone pretends that they only care about people making money off of it but really someone could literally walk around with a sign around there neck explaining the origins of their hairstyle and people would still say it’s cultural appropriation.
She was not defending. Them She told the true that Afro is terrible . I had and Afro it was nicely picked and round . They trying it like Tamar use to say . They try it .
Adrienne can't be this ignorant..she acts like she doesn't understand what Loni is saying. There are things people have to do or certain ways you have to look to get a certain job..unfortunately in 2021 we still have to assimilate to certain things period! Adrienne is dense if she doesn't see that
I would still work but I would use some of the money to go to school for a job I enjoy. There's nothing wrong with that. Law school would be nice. Or I would do charity work. But I wouldn't just sit around. That's boring.
If I won, I will still work and take some of that money I won and invest it in other things to make more money. Plus even though I am still working as Adrienne said I will work because I want to. But if anyone tries me, I am gone.
Realize that you don't receive the whole amount of the 1.5 billion. Two-thirds of it go between state and federal taxes and you lose a lot of it if you take a one time payout you lose a lot more, but you still receive millions, you only receive that starting amount if you take it in the annuity amount over 30 years. If you take a lump sum, you would receive $930 (after losing 1/4 of it for not taking it in installments), then it would be taxed like regular income at 39.6% Federal taxes, right off the bat which takes it down to $697.50 million, with a looming $135.80 million tax bill come April, and you still have to pay state and local taxes, and if it's in an interest bearing account taxes on interest earned. So, you would have $561.70 million before state, local taxes and taxes on the interest. Still, that is a really good haul for the amount you pay for a ticket.
I feel like Amanda brought a bad energy to the 4 of them I think it would be better to get someone educated on this kind of stuff and have personality that goes well with the rest of the girls
Aren't all these ladies already wealthy? Im sure Loni could leave and retire right now and she wouldn't have to work again 🤣 And im sure Adrienne and Tamara still have plenty of money left over from their Sister, Sister and Cheetah Girls days.
If I won the lotto I would drop out of college and pay off my loans. And build my own resort, women health clinics, and buy real estate. This might cause more than a billion tho.
That Kendall outrage is a nonsense. And I am the FIRST person to call out Cultural Appropriation. This is not it. It was just back combed hair. My god, save the outrage for real issues like Breanna Taylor's murder.
We black women are not trying to be hypocritical. We as black women had to turn to weave, perms and wigs because society will not accept our natural hair. We have always been told that our natural hair is not good enough. That natural hair is messy and unsuitable for some work environments. There are some places that will not hire you if you are wearing natural hair, dreadlocks or braids. They want us conform to society of wearing straight hair because it is considered more beautiful and appropriate. So stop bashing us black women for wearing straight hair because this is what society think is more beautiful.
I honestly have nothing to say because one... it's not an Afro... and two should we REALLY expect anything less let alone different from anyone Kardashian or Jenner related ?!?! Like I'm tired of talking about it... they wanna wear what they wanna wear... not my issue... I feel like people should stop giving them attention... you don't want to hear about them then stop bringing attention to it ! Simple ! I don't care ! ... I don’t read deep into bs... we have more things to worry about in this country
So…. It is offensive because 1. African Americans have been ostracized and passed over for opportunities based on our hair texture and cultural norms. So it stings when someone of another race rocks something that we have been defending for decades and now it’s considered popular / trendy but we are still fighting to be able to not be judged for said thing. 2. Appropriating … other races capitalizing financially off of something that originated somewhere else.
Ppl are truly very sensitive now a days I mean I don't care who wears what hair style when but I get what Loni was saying black ppl didnt choose to give up their culture and identity they were forced cuz they couldn't get jobs and stuff now these folks wearing the styles that we created that they pretty much banned is from wearing and out here acting like they Christopher Columbus
The fact that the Real is all POC why do nearly half of the girls get confused w these convos, Loni broke down the difference between cultural appropriation w assimilation perfectly she really impressed me and saved the segment
Loni didn't impress me here. The other hosts brought up different aspects of the topic, and Loni kept repeating the same statement that didn't even answer their questions.
She couldn't even pronounce assimilate
@@gaila.9852 but loni and Jean nose only said the right thing
@@gaila.9852 *jeannie
@@kenz-hi6rn Do you want to expand on that?
Statistically, most lottery winners are broke again within 10 years or less. I would hire a financial advisor, a therapist, and seriously consider changing my name if I won hundreds of millions of dollars. Why do people assume becoming rich overnight will automatically bring peace of mind? The people who've actually experienced say it is the opposite!
That’s why you need to be on the same vibrational frequency as what you desire. If you aren’t you will lose it because you’re not mentally in that place already. If your vibration does match, the you will be fine.
If I won that much I’d hire a smart ass investor to keep multiplying it for me.
@@sashajolie8995 This is absolutely correct but being broke tends to throw people's sense of alignment and their vibration way off. Being unable to live in gratitude for what one does have, however little is a real vibration killer, too.
AvecPoésie yes that’s true. That’s why it takes practice and not giving up. All it takes is for you to get in perfect alignment for a while then you manifest millions of dollars. You have to get rid of limiting beliefs and doubt. Listen to binaural Beats. Raise your vibration. You’ll get there
so did Tamera win the lottery, cuz shes leaving lol
That’s exactly what I was thinking 😂
Too soon 😂🤣😂🤣
Robyne C no... but she has lots of money that she can buy out of her contract lol
They pay her 3M a season and now they trying to pay her 1M and adrianne and Jeannie get paid 300k a season and lannie gets paid 1M so she like hell nahh
Harmony Life that’s messed up...jeannie deserves to get 1M way more than anyone else there, just saying
Adrienne ..that attitude ..just no. I’m glad loni said something lol
Cee Damm you cute!
Adrienne really pissed me off in this. Whenever it comes to the Kardashians she gets an attitude and dosen't listen to any of her co-hosts opinion or concerns. If someone did this with a Hispanic tradition she would probably have a whole different attitude. She has the right to have her opinion but also needs to chill tf out
Exactly!!!
i thought i was the only one that noticed omg! adrienne had a whole attitude in this segment. i’m thinking the kardashian’s have an NDA against her, because there’s no way she’s going so hard for her exes family that slapped her on national television like this!! the kardashian’s are known for having nda’s so
She barely said anything on the topic. So how didn’t she listen? Just say you don’t like her and be honest.
@@10thgenkim6 dead ass she has a NDA
@@daylonwright3635 but she does have a attitude and they are right
One of the problems I have with their questions is that they’re acting like Loni is the spokesperson for the black community. Tamera out of all people should’ve understood that.
I think maybe because Loni is the only full black woman and tamera is half white so they feel Loni knows more. But idk I would love to see an Indian woman and a white woman just because I feel all women relate to eachother and would bring so much more to the table 🥰🌹✨🤍💝♥️💖
@@sashajolie8995 yesss we definitely need indians at the table!! we need more asian representation other than the orientals
@@sashajolie8995 they don’t need a white women they have everything else
@@kenz-hi6rn they do need a white women to show all types of women.
@@SantiaLingamTheAwesomeCreature I am pretty sure you are not supposed to call Asian people "the orientals."
Imagine if Amanda was on this episode
Glad she aint shes a mean girl
The way Adrienne can defend the Kardashians is absurd
Boohooo
Right
6:27 when loni checked Adrienne 👏 👏 👏
Loni 🤦🏾♀️😂😂 I love her. Shes so real 🖤😘
4:00 lonis “ahh” 😂 i feel you
adrienne and jeannie love this show the most yet they get paid the least...... ain’t that sum
So true lol
they do?
Rumors say Tamara got 2 mil (then a pay cut which is why she’s leaving), Loni got $1 mil and Jeannie and Adrienne got $250k that was amped up to $500k
You don’t know that for sure so why spread that. Stop believing everything you read!
@@LiLmSzDiVa it’s not abt who loves it more
5:55 now what is Adrienne staring at miss ma'am?!
Loine Love SAID THAT!! go head girl!
Adrienne would've been dragged.
“But in 2018 are we still saying assimilation?”
Um yes Adrienne, we are
I agree with Lonnie, just give us credit, for our stuff !!!
why was this so hard for adrienne to understand!!!! (I really am not trying to be hateful towards ade I'm genuinely confused but not everything can be explained in short segments such as these)
She just wants to defend the Kardashian -Jenner family so she’s in favor of them
I don’t want to be negative but I feel like she sucks up to the kardashians lol
Sasha Jolie she does
Adrienne made a good point even if many refuse to see it which is this: her sister, who won’t make money off of her locks and wore it simply bc she likes it, got so much hate comments for it. Where do ppl draw the line? It seems like they don’t know how to and just flip out regardless.
It's weird. This is soooo easy to understand....
Jeannie love talking about these Tocos & cornrows 😂😂😂😂!
Lol Adrienne loves defending the Kardashian-Jenners haha
Lol exactly 😂😂
Exactly and Rob cheated on her lol
@@mest5621 Rob and his sisters are not the same person.
Why not? She knows them personally so she’s allowed to. Unlike others in the comments.
Adrienne at 5:56 lmaooo
One of the times I wish Amanda was on this show, Adrienne was a little problematic and Amanda would've gotten her together.
Especially when it’s about the Kardashians she often feels like she has to defend them
No. I’m glad Adrienne spoke the truth. There’s a hypocrisy with the black community and everyone just need to sit down and shut up. Black people don’t give credit to Caucasians for wearing straight wigs etc. black people need to realize that they’re not gods.
@@MarianSylla Straight hair is not a monopoly for caucasians, it doesn't make sense to give credit. There's asians (literally BILLIONS of people) and first nations/natives, latinx with naturally straight hair. Almost the entire world leans over on the straight hair side, minus black people. That's why they've been discriminated against in the workplace.
@@MarianSylla Your whole comment is a mess. Caucasians are not the only people with straight hair.
Gurleen Minhas okay so if we follow your logic, we must give credit to those people then for every freaking hairstyle we make. Also know that the straightening of black hair came from the slavery era which was more acceptable and considered more “beautiful”. The point I was trying to make is that a lot of black people just find the shittiest things to complain about and expect the rest of the world to always treat them special when they’re not willing to do the same for others.
And Tamera... she never ever speaks on race, why is that? And loni don’t be hitting all the nails on the head but she trying😂
Because everyone acts like mixed race people aren't black and can't "speak for us"
watch this video Tam’s silent speaks louder than her words : ruclips.net/video/-1Tg3Q_WUwQ/видео.html
Maybe because she always gets hit with a triple edge sword. Black people call her a hypocrite because she’s half white and with a white man. White people dont view her as white unless she screams MAGA. And now all of us are complaining that she stops and listens before forming an opinion (which we all should strive to do)
They are scared
@@daphnebailey6223 I know, I was embarrassed
I can't stand Tamera's silence on racism!!! I know people berate her because she has a white husband or they act like she can't speak about it because she's mixed but if you know you're black, you know you have the right to speak about what affects black people.
What bothers me and I think many others is the fact that people criticize her about motherhood all the time but that never stops her from constantly speaking about it. She always sees and addresses issues from the perspective of a woman who's a mother, why can't she do the same with regards to race.
How can you watch your people being victimized and not address it?!?! It doesn't matter if you father or your husband is white, absolutely nothing is wrong with that, what's wrong is not defending injustice when you see it or hear it, especially when you have the kind of platform she has.
Bingo!!!💯💯
I know Kendal hair isn’t naturally like that but you can get white women who’s hair is like an Afro but that doesn’t even look like an Afro personally it looks more Victorian.
Oh no baby, Adrien must really be scared of the kardashians. Bruh why is so hard to understand that it’s wrong for someone to claim your culture. Lonnie handle her real good. And I caught that shade Jennie or however you spell her name when she was talking about Nikki.
This why this show won’t go much further. The tone deafness is REAL.
They need Tiffany Pollard or Keke Palmer
To be fair, this video is from 2018.
Tameri Harding OMG KEKE yassss!!!! What a good suggestion
Tam was so serious about those five people.
Idk what Adrienne's deal was here. She was rude, disrespectful, and acted as if this was nothing to be upset about and was "hard to understand".... #overit
If someone did this to the Hispanic culture she would've FLIPPED OUT. I have no idea why she's acting like she doesn't understand this. Just because your sister did something doesn't mean it makes it right either
I know this is old but 1. I’m glad Loni checked Adrienne about that attitude and educated her. 2. I love Tamera but I’m glad she’s leaving because she gets away with just sitting quiet in the corner on topics like these all the time it’s irritating. Idk why she had to ask loni that question at the end which she could have answered herself, you wearing a whole afro😒 (girl you’re still black, you can speak on this!) 3. This is a moment I really wish Amanda was on the show, I know she would have brought so much sense to the table that Loni was trying but couldn’t fully articulate on her own (and I would have loved to see her shut Adrienne down when she said “you know there’s white people that naturally have hair like that right?” girl bye😒. I didn’t need to see this, this just got me pissed off all over again 🤦🏾♀️
I agree! You literally read my mind!
Yes!!!
Kendalls hair was not even an afro!
Kendalls hair was not even an afro!
OMG YES
Adrienne trying so hard to be associated with the kardashians. Girl they don’t even acknowledge you
Actually they do acknowledge her a lot...they remain friendly from what they display on SM however her bias her was disgusting
Braids are mentioned in our Hadith. Our profit Mohammed wore them himself and it’s also mentioned that woman wore “ tightly braided hair” too. This was narrated from 1400 years ago.
They should put Momma Mai on the show
IM DISGUSTED BY ADRIENNES OPINION.
Fr she done lost her mind
I agree, I always thought she had a good grasp on this type of stuff, but it only shows only black people truly knows black issues. I still like her though but she needs to be educated, gonna tell Loni she's wearing Jeeni hair...girl!
Why? Adrienne made a good point even if many refuse to see it which is this: her sister, who won’t make money off of her locks and wore it simply bc she likes it, got so much hate comments for it. Where do ppl draw the line? It seems like they don’t know how to and just flip out regardless.
Judy Knefati The reason people were telling her that was culture appropriation was because her sister used black face and her family was ok with it. And her and her family wore dreadlocks, braids etc. as fashion. They have never use it because of our culture and her sister renamed cornrows as bo derek braids. Chile atp you just acting ignorant if that doesn’t tell you she shouldn’t wear it.😐
TaBria Chanel I didn’t hear the part where she said she wore blackface, obviously if she did that that’s disgusting and disrespectful. But if someone does love a trend from a specific culture and wants to try it, why would they get hate for it? So long as they’re being respectful I mean.
This is why I always want them to include when the video was filmed. I'm glad Adrienne mentioned that it was 2018. I wonder if she has more clarity on the subject now.
I come from the middle east, in our traditions and history we are famous with the cat eye eyeliner, i don't feel offended when i see other people from other cultures do this style of makeup but i get offended when they start taking credit for it, this is exactly the kardashians do
Ps: sorry if i my grammar is bad 😅
Who was saying that Kim K invented the cornrows??? 🤨🤨
They were acting as if it was a new trend once Kim K wore the cornrows. When black people wear cornrows, it is looked at as ghetto or not something that you should wear out in public, but when Kim K wore it, it got more attention and she got credit for making the style a trend when cornrows have been happening for years.
My family’s jewish so my mom and my aunt have actual ‘Afros’ that’s their natural hair and they have to use the same styling products that are marketed toward black women. My mom gets a weave when she doesn’t wanna deal w her natural hair. Super curly hair is not exclusive to one race.
Disclaimer: Don’t mean no harm just wanna know
What hair type do they have?
Thank you
Taniyah Grant aw no it’s fine:) I don’t even know the word for it, neither of them are really in my life but they have super frizzy, tight curls. their hair legit grows out rather than down.
babymoonlight / oh great I didn’t want you to misunderstand and that sounds like they have type 3a or 3b hair. Thank you for answering my question. May you have a blessed day❤️❤️❤️
of course not but kinky-curly hair is exclusive to African diasporic peoples.
i agree with adrienne. when we try to support and love something people still get bashed
Y’all saying y’all disagree with Adrienne but no one is saying why. I think she brings up a good point. First off social media will be mad at any and everything so let’s start there. But should black ppl have a problem with other people who are not famous and not making money off of a hairstyle rocking a traditional black hair style? Idk. I for one think they be looking a mess with locs or braids bc their hair isn’t meant for it and doesn’t take it well. But one could say black hair isn’t meant to be beat into submission with perms and flat irons and our hair is being damaged by bad weaves and wigs and it’s snatching our edges out. And we talk about white ppl wearing our hairstyles but what would we do if the Chinese, Malaysian, or Brazilian people were like “ok fine then give us our hair back.” What would we do then? I’m not saying these are my thoughts but I think they are valid and need to be talked about. Black ppl are very sensitive about hair culture and we have every right to be. We have had so many culture vultures in our community taking and taking and not giving anything back or adding anything to the culture. So we are a little sensitive.
Hi, I totally understand your sentiments and agree with some of it but here's a nuance I think your comment misses: Black people (women) HAD to straighten their hairs, wear straight wigs or weaves to get accepted in the corporate world and conform to societal standards of beauty. You cannot just say to black people that they should abandon overnight all the indoctrination of what beautiful hair looks like or what acceptable corporate hair looks like. That choice infrastructure wasn't afforded to black people from the start.
People of other races now can choose to make hairstyles that are culturally identical to what black people wear and get admired for it. Black people did not (and in some places still do not) have this luxury.
People from other races can choose to wear hairstyles that are predominantly natural to black people, but black people almost did not have that choice when they (we) were indoctrinated into thinking and seeing straight hair, weaves and wigs as beautiful and acceptable in the corporate environment. Loni says this when she says a lot of places would not hire black people in afros. Amanda Seales says this in an interview after she left the real about how the producers sometimes told her her hairstyles were "not corporate enough" (basically too black) for daytime TV. Heck, there are several news cases of black people being sent home from school for wearing afros. Chloe x Halle talked about how they had to buy wigs when they were younger because they were not getting picked for roles when they had their locs.
It will be fun to see Adrienne's reaction if Jamie Oliver made Tacos and acted like he created it, renamed it and sold it at his restaurants.
Oop the stereotyping in this is ironic because Adrienne is Puerto Rican not Mexican, you know where tacos come from 🥱
@@bi_himself exactly!
@@bi_himselfno one caaarresssss
I love u jeannie mai 😍😍
That’s why when I’ll win the lottery I won’t tell ANYONE but my immediate family ♥️
Those are the dangerous ones!
In an ideal world, we would work not only for the money but also because we are passionate about what we do.
A woman can wear her hair any way she feels to. That’s like saying a black woman can’t wear her hair straight.
Faith Bryer no its not straight hair isnt culture its genetics box braids are cultural
No, but nice try 😄
So white people cant have big curly hair? What about your Queen Beyonce when she’d wear those long blonde wigs? Come on
DEAD hair colour isn’t cultural either. There are plenty of African people with blonde hair.
whitney blue so true i was suprised that 0.2 percent of africans have blonde hair that’s extremely fascinating
I'm with Adrienne and Jeannie, although it's rare. I will still work for the same exact reasons they offered
When loni asked what she should write as a caption she got tongue tied
This hair thing and culture appropriation seems a bit of a stretch for me. I’m really trying to objectively understand (and I’m black) but i cannot. Blacks wears blond hair, straight hair everyday why hasn’t that ever been a problem? One thing I understand is that its not about the hair it’s because it’s the Kardashians.
It hasn't been a problem because that is societies standards. When a black woman such as yourself wears an afro what will people say? Its nappy, ghetto, you didn't have money to get your hair done. But Kim k does it and its edgy, Trendy...do you get it? Black people HAVE to straighten hair because otherwise we'd get turned down from jobs publicly scrutinized by other races and even our own brainwashed people. Hate when people ADRIENNE uses the straight hair argument when its literally a societal standard.
@@readyroc7845 I get what you're saying but I also think Black women will wear a straight silky weave and say it's a "protective style" when they never wear their real hair out.
@@fizzybizzy3790 That goes to my point, SOME black women may use an excuse that's its a "protective style" only because they don't want to admit that they are abiding by the European standard of beauty, but can you blame them when all of their lives they've been told their natural hair is ugly and unkempt. Theres a lot of layers to this, and for Adrienne to use her sister as a blanket representation of culture appropriation is just not factual in the grand scheme of things.
The difference is learning the history behind the style and giving credit where credit is due.
Exactly
They all want our rhythm but not our blues!
Sometimes I feel like Loni isn’t the person you should go to with these questions. She had the opportunity to educate her hosts and others, and she just kept repeating the same statement.
5:56 Adrienne 😭😭
Tamera’s hair!!!
I would buy land and a home and still work . I would tell my mom, my brother and bf to pack their stuff we are moving today
Nicki has Asian blood on here on her mom’ or dad’s side too but I agree with Loni
Braids originated from Namibia 🇳🇦 a country next to South Africa.
Adrienne need to stop being a Kardashian Jenner defender lol
I wish Amanda woulda been here for this convo
I would buy my family vacation homes all over the world so my family from Mexico and my family from the US can see each other there :)
If i win tomorrow, i will quit my job after one month.
I'm playing Tuesday manifesting it comes to me
If I won I would try my best to do the right thing
Love Tamara but glad she's leaving only because she's always so Mute on black topics. Sheesh even Jeannie speaks up for us more than she does
Well first spell her name right if you gon throw shade SUN SHINE. Second of all Tamera has to battle racism from both sides everyday with being born mixed to being married to a white man and raising mixed children. Don’t mistake her positivity for not owning her “blackness”. It’s ppl like you that are part of the problem.
Because if she speaks on it y’all invalidate her opinion because she’s half white🤷🏽♀️
@@iacobus4227 tf who was throwing shade lmao that’s what she does. The topic could be about mistreatments of Latinos and she’ll make it about herself/her family or again she’ll just be mute to the topic and let’s everyone else speak. LACOBUS🙄
@@saniahprater897 WHO IS YALL?
@@krissysmiley4 if it doesn’t apply to you then you aren’t apart of the “y’all”
2.2 Billion dollars... that’s like 100 million dollars behind Mariah Carey 😭😭 that’s a lot of money Hunnay
I’d remodel my mom’s and grandma’s house. They deserve it for raising three young men myself included.
It’s just not gonna be the same without tam. She brings a certain dynamic they’ll be missing.
I will when soon and when I do I am going to get my doctorate and buy land in the us and Africa. Oh and pretend I don’t know a lot of people
Not tell anyone 😆 that’s what I would do
That’s so messed up that some people die from just winning the lottery 😪😪. What has this world become 🤭
Everyone pretends that they only care about people making money off of it but really someone could literally walk around with a sign around there neck explaining the origins of their hairstyle and people would still say it’s cultural appropriation.
She was not defending. Them She told the true that Afro is terrible . I had and Afro it was nicely picked and round . They trying it like Tamar use to say . They try it .
Adrienne can't be this ignorant..she acts like she doesn't understand what Loni is saying. There are things people have to do or certain ways you have to look to get a certain job..unfortunately in 2021 we still have to assimilate to certain things period! Adrienne is dense if she doesn't see that
She has a stylist for her Pic. She's a model. She following guidance.
100 with Loniiiiii yes loni love
2:00 go now boo
I would still work but I would use some of the money to go to school for a job I enjoy. There's nothing wrong with that. Law school would be nice. Or I would do charity work. But I wouldn't just sit around. That's boring.
Yes ty 😃 you
What's up with Adrienne's attitude during the assimilation discussion? 6:26 Glad Loni called out her attitude
thats why they were not invited to the wedding
If I won, I will still work and take some of that money I won and invest it in other things to make more money. Plus even though I am still working as Adrienne said I will work because I want to. But if anyone tries me, I am gone.
tamrea cant leave or i done watch the real
Adrienne always goes way too hard for the kardashian jenner tribe
Realize that you don't receive the whole amount of the 1.5 billion. Two-thirds of it go between state and federal taxes and you lose a lot of it if you take a one time payout you lose a lot more, but you still receive millions, you only receive that starting amount if you take it in the annuity amount over 30 years. If you take a lump sum, you would receive $930 (after losing 1/4 of it for not taking it in installments), then it would be taxed like regular income at 39.6% Federal taxes, right off the bat which takes it down to $697.50 million, with a looming $135.80 million tax bill come April, and you still have to pay state and local taxes, and if it's in an interest bearing account taxes on interest earned. So, you would have $561.70 million before state, local taxes and taxes on the interest. Still, that is a really good haul for the amount you pay for a ticket.
I’m with Adrienne. I would keep going to work and enjoy the fact that I don’t need to be there.
8:38 Silk press= Glass hair?
Oh my god.. now I realise how stupid this show was before Amanda entered. Loni is the only one that makes sense.. these girls wow 😮
I feel like Amanda brought a bad energy to the 4 of them I think it would be better to get someone educated on this kind of stuff and have personality that goes well with the rest of the girls
Gena Freudenberg if someone’s educated about this stuff they are not going to be fake
And they keep hating n Loni smh
Aren't all these ladies already wealthy? Im sure Loni could leave and retire right now and she wouldn't have to work again 🤣 And im sure Adrienne and Tamara still have plenty of money left over from their Sister, Sister and Cheetah Girls days.
That doesn't look like an afro to me, but....idk, she has done very questionable things in the past.
Would love it if Amanda was on the panel rn 😂
If I won the lotto I would drop out of college and pay off my loans. And build my own resort, women health clinics, and buy real estate. This might cause more than a billion tho.
That Kendall outrage is a nonsense. And I am the FIRST person to call out Cultural Appropriation. This is not it. It was just back combed hair. My god, save the outrage for real issues like Breanna Taylor's murder.
I’m like Adrienne I would still be working and I’d be donating my salary
Isn’t Kendall’s hair more victorian? Idk...I personally as a black woman don’t have a problem with the hair
We black women are not trying to be hypocritical. We as black women had to turn to weave, perms and wigs because society will not accept our natural hair. We have always been told that our natural hair is not good enough. That natural hair is messy and unsuitable for some work environments. There are some places that will not hire you if you are wearing natural hair, dreadlocks or braids.
They want us conform to society of wearing straight hair because it is considered more beautiful and appropriate. So stop bashing us black women for wearing straight hair because this is what society think is more beautiful.
I honestly have nothing to say because one... it's not an Afro... and two should we REALLY expect anything less let alone different from anyone Kardashian or Jenner related ?!?! Like I'm tired of talking about it... they wanna wear what they wanna wear... not my issue... I feel like people should stop giving them attention... you don't want to hear about them then stop bringing attention to it ! Simple ! I don't care ! ... I don’t read deep into bs... we have more things to worry about in this country
Did Tamera win the lottery?? 🤪♥️
I will never comprehend why black people are treated bad. Are they not human being? It’s a sad world.
Africa? Where in Africa Loni?
Does it matter ?
So…. It is offensive because 1. African Americans have been ostracized and passed over for opportunities based on our hair texture and cultural norms. So it stings when someone of another race rocks something that we have been defending for decades and now it’s considered popular / trendy but we are still fighting to be able to not be judged for said thing.
2. Appropriating … other races capitalizing financially off of something that originated somewhere else.
Ppl are truly very sensitive now a days I mean I don't care who wears what hair style when but I get what Loni was saying black ppl didnt choose to give up their culture and identity they were forced cuz they couldn't get jobs and stuff now these folks wearing the styles that we created that they pretty much banned is from wearing and out here acting like they Christopher Columbus