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@@dalehildebrandt1045I genuinely believe the internet has made humans less kind as a result of making a habit of saying snarky teenage rudeness that would never have become common place if you had to be in front of others when you said it. It’s fun when people laugh with you but it can sour rapidly when you go after the wrong subject with such a rude attitude. If you want people to love you and care for you being cruel for fun isn’t going to end well ultimately.
@@dorjedriftwood2731 Being cruel? Like, by scamming people with talk about healing and protection from all sickness and disease and selling them a Kahuna Disc? With advertisments that look like they pretty much violate every law about medical advertising in the USA? Look, this Speedmaster obviously wasn't murdered because of all his skills, right? Which only leaves accidental death or disease. All of which should be prevented by his psychic shields and placebo discs. It's not snarky teeange rudeness to call out scammers, and to point out their own scams didn't work and failed themselves miserably. Ofcourse, attacking my character is much easier than evaluating your faith in a person who sold you snake oil. And where's any scientific testing? It's almost as if scammers today have a much easier time with the internet instead of being subjected to real life testing by real scientists with real life credentials.
Met him a couple times. Manipulative, emotionally weird, bragged that he taught himself to smile in a mirror. Emotionally abusive to students in public. Creeped me out.
Must agree with you! I was related to him via marriage for awhile. He spoke intelligently enough and I even read his "Mental Training of a Warrior", which seemed legit enough. But he gave a very cold, creepy aura off. Moreso when I visited his house in Oregon
I love how "moving clouds with magical chi powers and mystical energies" somehow gets connected with martial arts. Also, loving the speed hitting clip where he's gently caressing the attacker! Gotta love that special touch!
Cloud bursting... There was literally a movie called the Fisher King (1991) where Robin Williams (😢) played a homeless lunatic who would get naked and lay in the park and stare at clouds to disperse them, I just wanted to bring this up...
Thanks for covering the late John Latourette! Now you understand why he was recommended. To be fair, he did do at least one thing correctly: he helped my mother shed her fear of heights via hypnotherapy. However, one correct instance doesn't make up for a (CENSORED) ton of bullshido. Answer to your question: I do believe that someone can become a better martial artist, despite their teacher- as long as they learn legitimate skills and employ them correctly. Keep the bullshido at bay and keep the martial arts legit, bro!
I just got to the end and your question. Yes, I think you can surpass your instructor in skills and morals. One of my first jiu jitsu instructors was a 5th degree and told made up war stories, let people down in every way you can think of personally, and got deep into drugs for a while until he had a heart attack. I'm nothing like him but his tricks and philosophy on defense made me who I am today (on the mats anyway).
Before I took up martial arts, I used to be a dancer for a very long time. The first dance school I was in had a cult-like mentality all the way, with the founding family being it's leaders. Most of the things they ever taught were complete BS as well. It's not like in martial arts, in which you can actively get beaten up for trying to use your "knowledge" but still they made us develop some very bad habits and profitted off of young students following their questionable leads and never questioning their judgement. Based on that experience I can say that roughly 10% of people from that particular dance school had turned around and started accumulating real knowledge from more experienced and truthful sources. Only maybe half of these still represented the school after realizing they have been lied to all along. I myself ran away as soon as I found an opportunity to go to another dance school in my area (there weren't many where I lived at the time). So to answer the question: Is it possible to start practicing a legit martial art/sport/etc after years of being subjected to a fraudulent teacher? Yes. It definitely is. Is it easy to make the turn in life necessary to do so? Nope. It's hard as hell.
My first instructor is considered a wacko by many in the same style/country I live in, and some of it's for good reason. He knew some stuff, he thought he knew other things, and he got really into chi and into the idea that traditional moves are better for fighting on the streets than modern ones, which just isn't true. Anyway, after falling out with him, I trained under several other teachers, attended a crapton of seminars and did everything I could think of to fill in the gaps, and my students are now doing pretty good. They did decently well at their last two tournaments, and we've improved and are still improving for the next ones. A thing I noticed after switching federations is that, everywhere you go there are a ton of instructors who think they're "masters" of their craft and only a handful who actually are (at least in terms of teaching, which is where my focus lies). Thanks for the video! R.I.P. Tourretes guy.
Sometimes later in age we also come back and see things differently, Cho wasn’t what we thought, longevity and body wellness for life become more valuable, and competitive / tournament styles are one fun branch but there are many branches to the martial tree. Stay humble and be willing to make amends unless there is outright abuse or falsehood
@@WindRider707 Hmm, I see your point. There is definite value in practicing martial arts for physical and mental health. I do so myself, never been much of a competition guy. Practicing kata in a park should be just as common practice as running. However, I do strive to understand and become better at preparing students for competitions because many of them want to participate. As for the past, unfortunately, amends are no longer possible. And as for the abuse/falsehood... Well, aside from making 13 year old kids teach classes in shady counties where not even an adult would feel safe, and coercing a 15 year old kid to make a public facebook apology for daring to go to another club for a training session the thing I remember most is the time when I was about to leave and my lovely instructor literally said that I must have a black soul like all the other instructors/students who were leaving. So, I guess I'm going to hell now:)) Oh, and let's not even get into the lies/falsehoods cause, holy poop, there were many..
i use to teach wing chun and my instructor was the worst.. talked bad on every other system/ combat sport including most wing chun schools.. talked bad every person we mutualy knew, anyways after he tried to extort money from me I moved on to do a few months of bjj and muai thai and then settled on boxing for the past 2 years, working towards my 2nds boxing match next month but despite my bad experience with my instructor i haven't thrown out the system, each new thing i learn i use it to expand my base line understanding of martial arts..
He didn't really believe he could control clouds. That's just the kind of bullshit claim guys like him who are trained to manipulate stupid people make in order to pull in the morons and their fat wallets. Those NLP certificates on his wall literally mean he was trained in psychological and emotional manipulation. Honestly, the guy strikes me as a psychopath.
I asked someone I respect about what I learned from a more experienced teacher who later fell out of favor with the community. “What is good, keep. What is bad, throw away.” It’s possible to learn effective martial arts afterwards, but only with unlearning the bad while adding to the good.
I absolutely believe someone can have a bad teacher but be a good martial artist. The founder of Isshin Ryu had a questionable list of teachers, he established his fighting style after he dreamed a goddess told him to, and he learned about half of kobudo before incorporating it into his system late in life Yet there are plenty of good Isshin Ryu practitioners out there who spar regularly, show ferocity in tournaments, and passionately defend their teacher as having good techniques at the end of the day. I will say that Isshin Ryu *works* though, since it has a deeply practical side. Someone learning from a dillman or an ashida kim would have to work much harder to be a good martial artist - but it is possible.
I got one of his books and a video training tape on speed hitting back in 1992. The things he said and taught are interesting. Weather they actually work or not I can't say for sure. It was in line with American Kenpo Karate known for its rapid striking techniques. At that time he was an 8th Dan Black Belt under the late Ed Parker. Had no idea that he died until I seen this video. Did he die last year or the year before? Anyway thanks for the commentary. RIP Doc La Tourette🙏🏼🥋✌🏽
This is the best install yet. Unbelievable power in this vortex training. And what intuitive mega power he has by looking u up first . Be safe he may be cloud bending over your home
Having presented these Masters their followers and all that merch. You sir have inspired me to do something for humankind to follow my dreams..and start my own religion.
No you can't be legit if your instructor is not. He's the one teaching you everything about that particular style. If the trainer doesn't know, the student doesn't know.
Lol, poor Doctor. He passed away last year on April 6th. His old stuff was full of useful information and he was truly adept in his concepts, kicking, speed fighting, etc. Sadly in the later years of his life his mind started to go and he suffered from many delusions not to mention he could no longer physically demonstrate his "speed" concepts, (how to hit a man 11 times in less than one second), he got sloppy as he got older. The other guy in the video is La Tourettes son who more than likely capitalized on his fathers mental decline. Sad, sad, sad.
The power of the Kahuna Energy Disc was so amazing that it actually made doctor La Tourette immortal, and he lived forever until the day he died. Don't underestimate the power that can move clouds and hit a guy 400 times in 18 different styles before he can blink.
I remember him from years ago. Legit black belt that went down the same path as Dillman who was also a legit black belt. Sad these legit black belts go off the deep end.
Dillman was never legit. Rode his wave to “fame” for being a “trainer” to Muhammad Ali and taking a picture with Bruce Lee in which was probably the product of a 5 minute encounter. He legit sold copies of that picture signed at his seminars in the early 90’s. If you ever did any kind of karate in the late 80’s or early 90’s your school probably had a run in with George Dillman 😂
@@thelightsareonbutnobodyish7263 He was well respected in the community at one time. Dillman began martial arts training in 1961 with Harry G. Smith. He went on to study with Daniel K. Pai, Robert Trias, Seiyu Oyata, Hohan Soken, Wally Jay and Muhammad Ali. He earned a legitimate black belt. I remember reading about him in magazines. My Martial Arts journey started in 1962. So i clearly remember him.
@@thelightsareonbutnobodyish7263 Dillman was legit. Fought even in competitions. But Dillman was also a businessman who saw that with a lot of woohoo you could make more money the easy way then with the real deal.
I know this is a martial arts channel and the idea that this guy has triple the amount of blackbelts as Chuck Norris is the focus of ridicule, but as an actual doctoral student, I take great offense to this guy claiming to have a PhD
OK...Rob has got a couple of things confused, but that's easy to do with LaTourrette...who is a conman. First Jack "Tower", is actually Jack LaTourette, the son of the speed master. He learned from dear old daddy to create a fake name....you see Jack "Williams " IS the fake name the speed master has used for more than 30 years. He uses "Williams" as his spokesman, salesman, supporter, firewall. Now, at one point LaTourette was a serious martial artist. But at some point he realized big money could be earned by peddling bullshit. Let's face it, it's tough to earn big money running a little dojo in Oregon. But putting ads in every major martial arts magazine and selling tapes and books, that can bring in some big money. I bought several videos from him in the early 90's, l spoke to Jack "Williams" several times on the phone...and he sounded exactly like the speed master! I asked him about this and he said he mirrored the "Dr" in every way and actually began to speak like him, both in tone and cadence. Lol...yeah right, l didn't fall for that. His death is no great loss, and proof that his energy bullshit was just that...bullshit!
I met La Tourette a number of times throughout my life, and had several conversations with him... I always felt like I needed to go home and wash my soul, after speaking to him. I swear a lot when I talk, and I dont mind a crass joke, but he would say and do things with the soul purpose of provoking someone to the point of rage, if he could. I ran into him once at a Blockbuster Video store. I was holding a Jeff Speakman video in my hand, reading the back of it. I went to an exhibition that Speakman did in honor of Ed Parker, and it was quite impressive. I was telling that to my then Wife, and this little 10 year old kid gabs the video out of my hand, squares off with me, and states "you think Spearman's impressive, because you're either a moron, or give never met a REAL Martial Artist" ... Catching me off guard, and looking around for his parents, I said in a kind but firm tone, as I could tell he was only a child, with very poor manners "and do you have someone in mind who you think is more skilled?" ... With out hesitation, he says "I sure fucking do, asshole... My dad could beat Jeff's ass, and yours at the same time" ... The very next moment, La Tourette steps up behind me and says "I'm fucking John La Tourette, and that's my kid you're talking to there, his name is Jack, and I've trained him to call out bullshit, when he hears it, it see it" , I turned to him, and reached out to shake his hand, and he just dead started me down, like be was daring me to be the slightest bit disrespectful. I had met him briefly, one other time, at a restaurant, one of my instructions introduced me to him, but had never had any kind of real interaction with him, up until that point. He invited to his school, and said if I "wanted to truly learn something in life, and about figuring, I'd pay him a visit" there... The next week I went down there, because I wanted to see how deep the rabbit hole went, and how dirty it was (id heard stories about him for years prior to officially meeting him that night). With in 10 minutes of me walking through the door, he told me that he remembered meeting my wife at a marketing convention a few years prior, and went on to tell me how "nice her ass still looked, so she must be still keeping in shape, I know she used to be a driver and a runner... See, I don't forget anything" ... That was my first of 3 conversations I would end up having La Tourette. My dad was a Medford Police Officer for many years, and helped start the first SWAT team in Southern Oregon. La Tourette used to train many of the Medford Officers, and my dad warned me that his tactics in both business, and interacting with people, were questionable at best, but that time, along with a couple of other times I ran into him over the years, made me quite certain that he would never be someone I would want to learn anything from, no matter how skilled he was... And make no mistake, he was indeed a very skilled fighter, and had a legit 5th degree in Taekwondo that he earned in Korea, during his time stationed there, several years prior to meeting David Day, who introduced him to American Kenpo.
@@kevincurpheymusicIf even 10% of what you say actually happened then that tells me the guy has a mental illness. Sounds like his turd of a son is heading down the same path. After that interaction with him and his son in the Video shop why did you still have future interaction with the prick?
I swear by Good Wizard (G-d for short), this psychic stuff is not the kind of Word Magic that the Holy Text warns us about because it's too stupid to work.
Ramsey Dewey made a good point when he was looking at Tai Chi and other "less effective" martial arts, that if you already have a good grasp on fighting then you can pull really useful stuff from unlikely sources so you can have a legit black belt from an unlegit sources. Having said that, don't know how you could spend enough time around this guy to get a black belt unless you're delusional or reasonably consistently high.
I was previously informed that Ed Parker had trained him, and I had viewed his striking videos showcasing his utilization of the American Kempo hand technique, similar to both Parker and Speakman. His videos were fascinating to watch as it appeared he made contact with his opponents, and the sound of his hands striking them was audible. However, I was unaware of his recent claims of possessing psychic abilities or boarding a crazy train.
Rob, this is one of your best episodes ever. Great work! This guy was simply crazy (may he RIP). Meanwhile to answer your question, I know some guys who trained with whackos who turned out fine so it is possible to learn from crazies and find your own way.
From Southern Orygun (Medford), my home state. Legendary BS. He used to sell videos in the back of Black Belt magazine back in the 80's . Anyway, his student can be his own man. He used to teach ok Karate stuff back in the day, self confidence, comtrol and normal things. So not everything was nuts.
I had ALL of LaTourette’s “speed hitting” “speed fighting” etc. (in my defense,I was an insecure young teenager answering ads from the back of black belt magazine!!!). There are kernels of decent-to-ok stuff in his kenpo curriculum, but it’s almost all bullshit. His PhD is bullshit, and his NLP and Huna stuff is bullshit too. I don’t know about cloud busting, but it seems like something he’d have a video on. I think if someone trained with a crazy person who also had a solid martial arts base, and they focused on that and decided they weren’t interested in the crazy, then they could end up alright. EDIT: a-fucking-mazing, his disc …he got even bullshitier! 😮 🤦♂️
To answer your question, It is possible to train under someone who is crazy and end up being legit but not likely. I actually knew John in the early 1980’s and know the man who took over his Ed Parker’s Kenpo dojo in Boise. He was, at one point totally legit and and was indeed known as Dr. Speed. He wrote a pretty good book back then titled Mental Training of a Warrior that was a staple at the time about visualization. He started showing signs of instability before he left Boise and is known to have acted pretty erratically. It’s sad he will be remembered for what he became later in life rather than his early career.
The age old question I guess if this stuff really worked why not use this in mma rather then things like bjj karate kick boxing wrestling and boxing if your a fighter you know what I mean cause he might be quick with his hands but NO WAY are they gonna hurt a Bee would sting you harder
Thanks Rob, now i have the classic Kate Bush song Cloudbusting in my head and as for training under someone and ending up like them i think its down to how much of the cool aid you have drunk.
This answer is a bit different from what you asked, but I'm convinced that there is value to train under the very best instructors of whatever martial art you decide upon, including ones that are suspect. That way, if there is something to be learned from the art, you've learned it from the best source possible, and if there is nothing of value to learn, you've studied it with the only people who would be qualified to provide you with that experience. To circle back to your original question, if the art has nothing of value to teach, then the student who studies it will have nothing to learn and cannot come away better for the experience except being more knowledgeable about the art's flaws.
There's a chance they can get better but it'll just be because it's more likely to be a more diluted crazy than the master. Also this guy reminded me of Billy Mitchell who's also a conman lol
Speed master. I'm more of a weed master myself. I find it interesting how mysticism, occults, etc. use a lot of scientific words used to describe actual things. Like vibrations, frequency's, and heck the word energy wasn't even a thing till we know of/ or discovered actual energies made of actual particles. What kind of sub atomic-particle is chi made of?
So I know ed Parker jr he lives about 30 mins down the road, he’s a nice guy but he’s into pressure point woo woo nonsense. I have him on my fb friends and just to tell you George dillman is on his friends list and comments on his post
Now i finally understand. I was wearing the disk in my back pocket instead of the front one, that`s why it wasn`t working. As soon as I moved the disk, my wife started being a bit nicer to me. It is a miracle!
I have trained with crazy people but had to break away. You can get value from crazy people as long as you sift through the garbage to find the treasure. This is not easy but it can be done with hard work. So yes you can learn things from crazy people but it is near impossible to represent them sanely as a black belt or teacher. You will need to break away and reorganize.
To answer the question of the video, yes assuming you have been able to leave the bad organisation and find a legitimate gym/dojo to train at. But then the question becomes, is that bad instructor your instructor or is the new gym/dojo instructor your instructor instead?
I had a chief instructor for a bit who was a complete whack job and kind of a creep. He was a pretty decent businessman tho, and had the good sense to recruit talented black belts from other local schools - they ended up teaching the advanced classes and creepy McWhackjob would mostly do promotions, membership management, and hitting on the single moms when they came to pick their kids up.
To answer the question of the day, it seems like people almost never turn out good after training under a psycho for extended periods of time however sometimes you see people with experience train with a bullshito master for a short period of time and it seems to have no negative effects like Alex Pereira with Steven Segal
I tend to agree with you. Even if someone was well meaning to not perpetuate the nonsense they were taught it’ll inevitably come through in some form or fashion. Also the sunk cost fallacy will most likely take over. It’s easier to perpetuate nonsense than accept that you wasted time with make believe martial arts.
It was (I'm guessing) his son messaging you, most likely. La Tourette himself, died a year ago (from what I've heard). La Tourette was a legit badass. The dangerous kind. He was horribly cruel and abusive toward the majority of his students... But he truly was a very skilled and powerful force to be reckoned with, when it came to fighting. He personally trained Josh Haynes (Ultimate Fighter winner, and UFC fighter, who's currently a Deputy Sheriff in Las Vegas, Nevada)
18 black belts. Even Chuck Norris only has 7 black belts and that includes a few honorary ones and one he gave himself (and also very legit ones in Tang Soo Do, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Judo). And he's been studying martial arts nonstop since the Korean War.
Since the Vietnam War. Chuck was stationed in Korea during the Vietnam Conflict while his brother, Wieland, was sent to Vietnam where he was killed. Chuck Norris was born in 1940. It's unlikely that he would be fighting in Korea from age 10 to 13. Your points about the multiple belts are well-taken, however. 👍
It saddens me that you are spoiled for choice with so many delusional martial arts practitioners out there. Thankfully, your research is awesome and you are absolutely hysterical! Thanks for doing what you do! I hate that these loons actually manage to get money from people.
Henry Ford could move things with his mind too. He needed to move medium cargo, but it was to much for a bicycle. So Ford used his mind and invented the first pickup truck in 1925. Now he was able to move his cargo.
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I prefer the armpit technique with my kahuna coin as well, it makes my willy grow to unseen sizes.
@hapkidoman16241 But the special Kahuna Disc keeps you from getting sick! So why did he die then?
@@dalehildebrandt1045I genuinely believe the internet has made humans less kind as a result of making a habit of saying snarky teenage rudeness that would never have become common place if you had to be in front of others when you said it. It’s fun when people laugh with you but it can sour rapidly when you go after the wrong subject with such a rude attitude. If you want people to love you and care for you being cruel for fun isn’t going to end well ultimately.
@@dorjedriftwood2731 Being cruel? Like, by scamming people with talk about healing and protection from all sickness and disease and selling them a Kahuna Disc? With advertisments that look like they pretty much violate every law about medical advertising in the USA? Look, this Speedmaster obviously wasn't murdered because of all his skills, right? Which only leaves accidental death or disease. All of which should be prevented by his psychic shields and placebo discs. It's not snarky teeange rudeness to call out scammers, and to point out their own scams didn't work and failed themselves miserably. Ofcourse, attacking my character is much easier than evaluating your faith in a person who sold you snake oil. And where's any scientific testing? It's almost as if scammers today have a much easier time with the internet instead of being subjected to real life testing by real scientists with real life credentials.
@hapkidoman16241 It's not a joke. Why didn't his psychic shields and Kahuna discs protect him?
My brain cells died within the first minute....
Ooooo it gets worse 😂
This has to be meth use or something
You needed to have the #1 psychic energy disk behind your balls to protect you with an automatic psychic shield.
@@DwainLofton Meth? He was the "Developer of Speed Hitting 1983", so yes.
@@kyleolson8977 facts 😂
Met him a couple times. Manipulative, emotionally weird, bragged that he taught himself to smile in a mirror. Emotionally abusive to students in public. Creeped me out.
That’s a super weird flex that he had to teach himself to smile in the mirror…sounds like autism or something like that
Must agree with you! I was related to him via marriage for awhile. He spoke intelligently enough and I even read his "Mental Training of a Warrior", which seemed legit enough. But he gave a very cold, creepy aura off. Moreso when I visited his house in Oregon
The world is really small, isn't it?
@@MaharlikaAWA Somewhere around Medford, if I remember correctly
@@ShinFahima Right?
I love how "moving clouds with magical chi powers and mystical energies" somehow gets connected with martial arts.
Also, loving the speed hitting clip where he's gently caressing the attacker! Gotta love that special touch!
When your opponent just keeps his eyes shut and takes no damage or impact the speed attack is truly a strong method of self-defense.
Don't forget the sound effects he made with his mouth. Your victim would be highly unaware of their impending doom without 'em...
@@Guppusmaximus ooohhh.... The great sound effect technique. Brutally beautiful... 🍻🤣🍻
he drinks his bong water
Hey, I drink my bong water. Its good for my chi.
5:37
"Put this under your balls"
Here's where you have to consider what went wrong in your life.
Yay I actually bought a video of his from black belt magazine when I was 18. I’m so excited for this episode 😊
Master of smoking speed ×* hiya!** and just like that I hit the bubble
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Cloud bursting... There was literally a movie called the Fisher King (1991) where Robin Williams (😢) played a homeless lunatic who would get naked and lay in the park and stare at clouds to disperse them, I just wanted to bring this up...
Jajajajaja. 😂😂😂😂
@@davidallamericananarchist9220this is the inspiration for the original movie
More like smoking meth
But Rob, they make pills for his condition 😂😂😂
😂 couldn’t help myself
Thanks for covering the late John Latourette! Now you understand why he was recommended.
To be fair, he did do at least one thing correctly: he helped my mother shed her fear of heights via hypnotherapy. However, one correct instance doesn't make up for a (CENSORED) ton of bullshido.
Answer to your question: I do believe that someone can become a better martial artist, despite their teacher- as long as they learn legitimate skills and employ them correctly.
Keep the bullshido at bay and keep the martial arts legit, bro!
"twelve seconds later". Oh man, youre the best lol. Great sense of humor.
Thank you
I just got to the end and your question. Yes, I think you can surpass your instructor in skills and morals. One of my first jiu jitsu instructors was a 5th degree and told made up war stories, let people down in every way you can think of personally, and got deep into drugs for a while until he had a heart attack. I'm nothing like him but his tricks and philosophy on defense made me who I am today (on the mats anyway).
Before I took up martial arts, I used to be a dancer for a very long time. The first dance school I was in had a cult-like mentality all the way, with the founding family being it's leaders. Most of the things they ever taught were complete BS as well. It's not like in martial arts, in which you can actively get beaten up for trying to use your "knowledge" but still they made us develop some very bad habits and profitted off of young students following their questionable leads and never questioning their judgement.
Based on that experience I can say that roughly 10% of people from that particular dance school had turned around and started accumulating real knowledge from more experienced and truthful sources. Only maybe half of these still represented the school after realizing they have been lied to all along. I myself ran away as soon as I found an opportunity to go to another dance school in my area (there weren't many where I lived at the time).
So to answer the question: Is it possible to start practicing a legit martial art/sport/etc after years of being subjected to a fraudulent teacher? Yes. It definitely is. Is it easy to make the turn in life necessary to do so? Nope. It's hard as hell.
My first instructor is considered a wacko by many in the same style/country I live in, and some of it's for good reason. He knew some stuff, he thought he knew other things, and he got really into chi and into the idea that traditional moves are better for fighting on the streets than modern ones, which just isn't true. Anyway, after falling out with him, I trained under several other teachers, attended a crapton of seminars and did everything I could think of to fill in the gaps, and my students are now doing pretty good. They did decently well at their last two tournaments, and we've improved and are still improving for the next ones. A thing I noticed after switching federations is that, everywhere you go there are a ton of instructors who think they're "masters" of their craft and only a handful who actually are (at least in terms of teaching, which is where my focus lies). Thanks for the video! R.I.P. Tourretes guy.
Sometimes later in age we also come back and see things differently, Cho wasn’t what we thought, longevity and body wellness for life become more valuable, and competitive / tournament styles are one fun branch but there are many branches to the martial tree. Stay humble and be willing to make amends unless there is outright abuse or falsehood
@@WindRider707 Hmm, I see your point. There is definite value in practicing martial arts for physical and mental health. I do so myself, never been much of a competition guy. Practicing kata in a park should be just as common practice as running.
However, I do strive to understand and become better at preparing students for competitions because many of them want to participate.
As for the past, unfortunately, amends are no longer possible. And as for the abuse/falsehood... Well, aside from making 13 year old kids teach classes in shady counties where not even an adult would feel safe, and coercing a 15 year old kid to make a public facebook apology for daring to go to another club for a training session the thing I remember most is the time when I was about to leave and my lovely instructor literally said that I must have a black soul like all the other instructors/students who were leaving. So, I guess I'm going to hell now:))
Oh, and let's not even get into the lies/falsehoods cause, holy poop, there were many..
Kahuna Energy Disc sounds like something out of Bionicle.
Sounds like a bun for Big Kahuna burger
I'm missing the Kahuna Energy Disc piece for my Bionical. he'll never be finished!
What about the Panama Canal? We will never know...
Rumors say he dug that canal with use of his kamehameha energy disk.
He looks like a wish version of Nicolas Cage at 2:46 🤣🤣🤣 shampooing hair had nothing to do with martial arts
😂😂😂
i use to teach wing chun and my instructor was the worst.. talked bad on every other system/ combat sport including most wing chun schools.. talked bad every person we mutualy knew, anyways after he tried to extort money from me I moved on to do a few months of bjj and muai thai and then settled on boxing for the past 2 years, working towards my 2nds boxing match next month but despite my bad experience with my instructor i haven't thrown out the system, each new thing i learn i use it to expand my base line understanding of martial arts..
Bro you always respond promptly too, so that "msg me" things is just funny 😂😂
Wild right lol
@@McDojoLife yo btw i got a story im going to send your way later. keep an eye on your gram.
When i was in third grade I briefly, for thirty seconds or so , thought I to could control clouds.... Some men never grow up
He didn't really believe he could control clouds. That's just the kind of bullshit claim guys like him who are trained to manipulate stupid people make in order to pull in the morons and their fat wallets. Those NLP certificates on his wall literally mean he was trained in psychological and emotional manipulation. Honestly, the guy strikes me as a psychopath.
Dr La Tourrette the Speed Master. Usually superhero’s have shorter names
What would be is secret identity?
Chuck Liddell
2:50 'stop molesting my face'....
Best introduction-presentation ever. ( the clouds mover and the animation 😂)
I asked someone I respect about what I learned from a more experienced teacher who later fell out of favor with the community. “What is good, keep. What is bad, throw away.” It’s possible to learn effective martial arts afterwards, but only with unlearning the bad while adding to the good.
I absolutely believe someone can have a bad teacher but be a good martial artist.
The founder of Isshin Ryu had a questionable list of teachers, he established his fighting style after he dreamed a goddess told him to, and he learned about half of kobudo before incorporating it into his system late in life Yet there are plenty of good Isshin Ryu practitioners out there who spar regularly, show ferocity in tournaments, and passionately defend their teacher as having good techniques at the end of the day.
I will say that Isshin Ryu *works* though, since it has a deeply practical side. Someone learning from a dillman or an ashida kim would have to work much harder to be a good martial artist - but it is possible.
Love your videos. Keep them coming please.
Outstanding! Glad you did this
I got one of his books and a video training tape on speed hitting back in 1992. The things he said and taught are interesting. Weather they actually work or not I can't say for sure. It was in line with American Kenpo Karate known for its rapid striking techniques. At that time he was an 8th Dan Black Belt under the late Ed Parker. Had no idea that he died until I seen this video. Did he die last year or the year before? Anyway thanks for the commentary. RIP Doc La Tourette🙏🏼🥋✌🏽
This is the best install yet. Unbelievable power in this vortex training. And what intuitive mega power he has by looking u up first . Be safe he may be cloud bending over your home
Having presented these Masters their followers and all that merch. You sir have inspired me to do something for humankind to follow my dreams..and start my own religion.
9:27 looks like an action scene from "The Room"
No you can't be legit if your instructor is not. He's the one teaching you everything about that particular style. If the trainer doesn't know, the student doesn't know.
Lol, poor Doctor. He passed away last year on April 6th. His old stuff was full of useful information and he was truly adept in his concepts, kicking, speed fighting, etc. Sadly in the later years of his life his mind started to go and he suffered from many delusions not to mention he could no longer physically demonstrate his "speed" concepts, (how to hit a man 11 times in less than one second), he got sloppy as he got older. The other guy in the video is La Tourettes son who more than likely capitalized on his fathers mental decline. Sad, sad, sad.
😮Wow! That answers my question. He died last year. That's crazy.
😮Wow! That answers my question. Thanks for that info.
The power of the Kahuna Energy Disc was so amazing that it actually made doctor La Tourette immortal, and he lived forever until the day he died. Don't underestimate the power that can move clouds and hit a guy 400 times in 18 different styles before he can blink.
I remember him from years ago. Legit black belt that went down the same path as Dillman who was also a legit black belt. Sad these legit black belts go off the deep end.
Dillman was never legit. Rode his wave to “fame” for being a “trainer” to Muhammad Ali and taking a picture with Bruce Lee in which was probably the product of a 5 minute encounter. He legit sold copies of that picture signed at his seminars in the early 90’s. If you ever did any kind of karate in the late 80’s or early 90’s your school probably had a run in with George Dillman 😂
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He was well respected in the community at one time. Dillman began martial arts training in 1961 with Harry G. Smith. He went on to study with Daniel K. Pai, Robert Trias, Seiyu Oyata, Hohan Soken, Wally Jay and Muhammad Ali.
He earned a legitimate black belt. I remember reading about him in magazines. My Martial Arts journey started in 1962. So i clearly remember him.
Agree to disagree my friend. Several of those names in hindsight were hacks teaching garbage at the time as well. I also am well aware.
@@thelightsareonbutnobodyish7263 Dillman was legit. Fought even in competitions. But Dillman was also a businessman who saw that with a lot of woohoo you could make more money the easy way then with the real deal.
@@jpsholland Dillman fought in competitions? I'll need proof of that.
I know this is a martial arts channel and the idea that this guy has triple the amount of blackbelts as Chuck Norris is the focus of ridicule, but as an actual doctoral student, I take great offense to this guy claiming to have a PhD
OK...Rob has got a couple of things confused, but that's easy to do with LaTourrette...who is a conman. First Jack "Tower", is actually Jack LaTourette, the son of the speed master. He learned from dear old daddy to create a fake name....you see Jack "Williams " IS the fake name the speed master has used for more than 30 years. He uses "Williams" as his spokesman, salesman, supporter, firewall.
Now, at one point LaTourette was a serious martial artist. But at some point he realized big money could be earned by peddling bullshit. Let's face it, it's tough to earn big money running a little dojo in Oregon. But putting ads in every major martial arts magazine and selling tapes and books, that can bring in some big money.
I bought several videos from him in the early 90's, l spoke to Jack "Williams" several times on the phone...and he sounded exactly like the speed master! I asked him about this and he said he mirrored the "Dr" in every way and actually began to speak like him, both in tone and cadence. Lol...yeah right, l didn't fall for that.
His death is no great loss, and proof that his energy bullshit was just that...bullshit!
I met La Tourette a number of times throughout my life, and had several conversations with him... I always felt like I needed to go home and wash my soul, after speaking to him. I swear a lot when I talk, and I dont mind a crass joke, but he would say and do things with the soul purpose of provoking someone to the point of rage, if he could.
I ran into him once at a Blockbuster Video store. I was holding a Jeff Speakman video in my hand, reading the back of it. I went to an exhibition that Speakman did in honor of Ed Parker, and it was quite impressive. I was telling that to my then Wife, and this little 10 year old kid gabs the video out of my hand, squares off with me, and states "you think Spearman's impressive, because you're either a moron, or give never met a REAL Martial Artist" ... Catching me off guard, and looking around for his parents, I said in a kind but firm tone, as I could tell he was only a child, with very poor manners "and do you have someone in mind who you think is more skilled?" ... With out hesitation, he says "I sure fucking do, asshole... My dad could beat Jeff's ass, and yours at the same time" ... The very next moment, La Tourette steps up behind me and says "I'm fucking John La Tourette, and that's my kid you're talking to there, his name is Jack, and I've trained him to call out bullshit, when he hears it, it see it" ,
I turned to him, and reached out to shake his hand, and he just dead started me down, like be was daring me to be the slightest bit disrespectful. I had met him briefly, one other time, at a restaurant, one of my instructions introduced me to him, but had never had any kind of real interaction with him, up until that point. He invited to his school, and said if I "wanted to truly learn something in life, and about figuring, I'd pay him a visit" there...
The next week I went down there, because I wanted to see how deep the rabbit hole went, and how dirty it was (id heard stories about him for years prior to officially meeting him that night). With in 10 minutes of me walking through the door, he told me that he remembered meeting my wife at a marketing convention a few years prior, and went on to tell me how "nice her ass still looked, so she must be still keeping in shape, I know she used to be a driver and a runner... See, I don't forget anything" ... That was my first of 3 conversations I would end up having La Tourette.
My dad was a Medford Police Officer for many years, and helped start the first SWAT team in Southern Oregon. La Tourette used to train many of the Medford Officers, and my dad warned me that his tactics in both business, and interacting with people, were questionable at best, but that time, along with a couple of other times I ran into him over the years, made me quite certain that he would never be someone I would want to learn anything from, no matter how skilled he was... And make no mistake, he was indeed a very skilled fighter, and had a legit 5th degree in Taekwondo that he earned in Korea, during his time stationed there, several years prior to meeting David Day, who introduced him to American Kenpo.
@@kevincurpheymusic yes, he was a total asshole. And his kids all grown up and an asshole too!
@@kevincurpheymusicIf even 10% of what you say actually happened then that tells me the guy has a mental illness.
Sounds like his turd of a son is heading down the same path.
After that interaction with him and his son in the Video shop why did you still have future interaction with the prick?
What in the DragonBall Z and The Force is happening here
I swear by Good Wizard (G-d for short), this psychic stuff is not the kind of Word Magic that the Holy Text warns us about because it's too stupid to work.
Now I know where Mac from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia received his training! The more you know.
lol, he actually looks like Macs dad also 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think I had one of his books like 30 years ago. Something about "Speed hitting"
Ramsey Dewey made a good point when he was looking at Tai Chi and other "less effective" martial arts, that if you already have a good grasp on fighting then you can pull really useful stuff from unlikely sources so you can have a legit black belt from an unlegit sources. Having said that, don't know how you could spend enough time around this guy to get a black belt unless you're delusional or reasonably consistently high.
Ummm where can I get one of those arm pit discs? Asking for a friend.
😂 no clue but it’s hilarious
His slappy-slappy techniques remind me of a toned-down version of Akida Kim's "Hands of Death" kata (suuuuper deadly).
How is this even still happening in the age of the internet 😆
I was previously informed that Ed Parker had trained him, and I had viewed his striking videos showcasing his utilization of the American Kempo hand technique, similar to both Parker and Speakman. His videos were fascinating to watch as it appeared he made contact with his opponents, and the sound of his hands striking them was audible. However, I was unaware of his recent claims of possessing psychic abilities or boarding a crazy train.
Jack Williams is his son
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Rob, this is one of your best episodes ever. Great work! This guy was simply crazy (may he RIP). Meanwhile to answer your question, I know some guys who trained with whackos who turned out fine so it is possible to learn from crazies and find your own way.
Omg the "Jack Tower" paper clip had me dying.
From Southern Orygun (Medford), my home state. Legendary BS. He used to sell videos in the back of Black Belt magazine back in the 80's .
Anyway, his student can be his own man. He used to teach ok Karate stuff back in the day, self confidence, comtrol and normal things. So not everything was nuts.
The way he spins the energy is amazing.
This guy out Dillman's Dillman.
I had ALL of LaTourette’s “speed hitting” “speed fighting” etc. (in my defense,I was an insecure young teenager answering ads from the back of black belt magazine!!!).
There are kernels of decent-to-ok stuff in his kenpo curriculum, but it’s almost all bullshit.
His PhD is bullshit, and his NLP and Huna stuff is bullshit too.
I don’t know about cloud busting, but it seems like something he’d have a video on.
I think if someone trained with a crazy person who also had a solid martial arts base, and they focused on that and decided they weren’t interested in the crazy, then they could end up alright.
EDIT: a-fucking-mazing, his disc …he got even bullshitier! 😮 🤦♂️
“Turn into a square clood, turn into a square. Square clood, clood be square.” If you haven’t seen that video look it up, it’s a classic.
To answer your question, It is possible to train under someone who is crazy and end up being legit but not likely. I actually knew John in the early 1980’s and know the man who took over his Ed Parker’s Kenpo dojo in Boise. He was, at one point totally legit and and was indeed known as Dr. Speed. He wrote a pretty good book back then titled Mental Training of a Warrior that was a staple at the time about visualization. He started showing signs of instability before he left Boise and is known to have acted pretty erratically. It’s sad he will be remembered for what he became later in life rather than his early career.
Had me on the floor with the armpit move. 😂
I actually used to train under him many years ago and the basic Kenpo he taught was sound, but sad to see how far he fell after the early to mid 90s
The age old question I guess if this stuff really worked why not use this in mma rather then things like bjj karate kick boxing wrestling and boxing if your a fighter you know what I mean cause he might be quick with his hands but NO WAY are they gonna hurt a Bee would sting you harder
This was hilarious, that guy was definitely toasted 😂
The good ole "secrets they dont want you to know about" line.
“Does that make sense” 😂😂
Only Master Ken is the ultimate 10th degree master, this guy is trying to steal Ken's thunder lol
The video you posted brought me here.. 8 july 2024... 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏽
I was wondering when you was going to do Dr. John Tourette. I once bought his speed tape back in vhs days, it sucked.
This drunk is Dragonball Z!!!!! Getit!
Thanks Rob, now i have the classic Kate Bush song Cloudbusting in my head and as for training under someone and ending up like them i think its down to how much of the cool aid you have drunk.
This answer is a bit different from what you asked, but I'm convinced that there is value to train under the very best instructors of whatever martial art you decide upon, including ones that are suspect. That way, if there is something to be learned from the art, you've learned it from the best source possible, and if there is nothing of value to learn, you've studied it with the only people who would be qualified to provide you with that experience. To circle back to your original question, if the art has nothing of value to teach, then the student who studies it will have nothing to learn and cannot come away better for the experience except being more knowledgeable about the art's flaws.
How can he message u as he been dead for over yr
I farted a small cloud that makes people run
True chi powers
There's a chance they can get better but it'll just be because it's more likely to be a more diluted crazy than the master.
Also this guy reminded me of Billy Mitchell who's also a conman lol
Before Cloud Bursting
After Cloud Bursting
Me: 🤦😂
Who needs 400 slaps when one strong strike will do the job?
I'm talking to you, *kenpo*
Speed master. I'm more of a weed master myself. I find it interesting how mysticism, occults, etc. use a lot of scientific words used to describe actual things. Like vibrations, frequency's, and heck the word energy wasn't even a thing till we know of/ or discovered actual energies made of actual particles. What kind of sub atomic-particle is chi made of?
So I know ed Parker jr he lives about 30 mins down the road, he’s a nice guy but he’s into pressure point woo woo nonsense. I have him on my fb friends and just to tell you George dillman is on his friends list and comments on his post
@7:08 I do too have psychic abilities! How dare you!
But .....I don't have any balls. I'm doomed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
*Sarcasm*
You can be if you train and learn. Take what might have been good and expand from there. They may some good fundamentals and at least can teach that.
Now i finally understand. I was wearing the disk in my back pocket instead of the front one, that`s why it wasn`t working. As soon as I moved the disk, my wife started being a bit nicer to me. It is a miracle!
I have trained with crazy people but had to break away. You can get value from crazy people as long as you sift through the garbage to find the treasure. This is not easy but it can be done with hard work.
So yes you can learn things from crazy people but it is near impossible to represent them sanely as a black belt or teacher. You will need to break away and reorganize.
To answer the question of the video, yes assuming you have been able to leave the bad organisation and find a legitimate gym/dojo to train at. But then the question becomes, is that bad instructor your instructor or is the new gym/dojo instructor your instructor instead?
I had a chief instructor for a bit who was a complete whack job and kind of a creep. He was a pretty decent businessman tho, and had the good sense to recruit talented black belts from other local schools - they ended up teaching the advanced classes and creepy McWhackjob would mostly do promotions, membership management, and hitting on the single moms when they came to pick their kids up.
To answer the question of the day, it seems like people almost never turn out good after training under a psycho for extended periods of time however sometimes you see people with experience train with a bullshito master for a short period of time and it seems to have no negative effects like Alex Pereira with Steven Segal
I've perfected his 4 hit head slap. I call it the stratocumulus nimbostratus
I tend to agree with you. Even if someone was well meaning to not perpetuate the nonsense they were taught it’ll inevitably come through in some form or fashion. Also the sunk cost fallacy will most likely take over. It’s easier to perpetuate nonsense than accept that you wasted time with make believe martial arts.
It was (I'm guessing) his son messaging you, most likely. La Tourette himself, died a year ago (from what I've heard).
La Tourette was a legit badass. The dangerous kind. He was horribly cruel and abusive toward the majority of his students... But he truly was a very skilled and powerful force to be reckoned with, when it came to fighting.
He personally trained Josh Haynes (Ultimate Fighter winner, and UFC fighter, who's currently a Deputy Sheriff in Las Vegas, Nevada)
18 black belts. Even Chuck Norris only has 7 black belts and that includes a few honorary ones and one he gave himself (and also very legit ones in Tang Soo Do, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Judo). And he's been studying martial arts nonstop since the Korean War.
Since the Vietnam War. Chuck was stationed in Korea during the Vietnam Conflict while his brother, Wieland, was sent to Vietnam where he was killed. Chuck Norris was born in 1940. It's unlikely that he would be fighting in Korea from age 10 to 13.
Your points about the multiple belts are well-taken, however. 👍
?? This guy is hilarious! I thought he was a speed hair dresser! LOL I dunno man, crazy is what crazy does... lol
Can I order the big kahuna one please?
I can create a vortex as well every time i fart lol
Baahahahahahahahaha!!!!😂 you officially win mcdojo, you made Dr spiritfingers mad😂😂😂
5:00 I think this point is spot on. He certainly does boast about his chi abilities.
"The drak side" darth vader music plays
He should single-handedly be able to take care of the sky and get rid of all chemtrails with that Cloudbusting technique😏🤣
Where did he get his PhD and in what field?
So many drugs in the first 60 seconds lol :)
What hoodie is that? Looks comfy
It saddens me that you are spoiled for choice with so many delusional martial arts practitioners out there. Thankfully, your research is awesome and you are absolutely hysterical! Thanks for doing what you do! I hate that these loons actually manage to get money from people.
Why are these people allowed in the streets and internet access? 😂
'P T Barnum said it so long ago, there's one born every minute, don't you know'. Lyrics from Killer Klowns from Outer Space.
Henry Ford could move things with his mind too. He needed to move medium cargo, but it was to much for a bicycle. So Ford used his mind and invented the first pickup truck in 1925. Now he was able to move his cargo.
That dude on speed 😂😂😂😂
I am only at 0:55 and I already know I probably won't be able to make it till the end. My brain quit 10 seconds ago 😅