Did someone say fire🔥?!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- ** Things were getting alittle exciting when you hear "fire" on a combine in the middle of a 32 Degree day with a 60km wind! 😂 🤷♂️
** But we got it all out, and found out it was a rock that had been ingested and started a fire inside the concaves. No worries, minor damage was done considering the sheer bolts blew in the rotor, also the rotor is only rotating at 500 rpms in lentils vs say 1100 rpms in wheat.
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Mike Mitchell-one of the most educative farm yt channels. Love to watch your videos as a farmers. In every video I learn something new. Keep up the good work.
Good to see it was not to bad. Parts are a lot cheaper than a new machine.
Good fire talk also.
Glad you didnt have to much Damage with your Combine. Happy & Safe Harvest. You can Never be to Safe.
I’m from the future, to anyone who does not know later on in the fall this exact combines burns to the ground, do to a fire from a bearing failure in the rotor drive. It caught straw on fire which set the PLASTIC diesel tank on fire and in 10 to 15 min burn up a $750,000 combine to the ground.
it wasn't a failure in the rotor drive it was the right hand gear box and it took way less then 10min
Thank you.. Farmers are the unsung hero's of the planet...love the videos
A good Christmas present for Hunter would be a belt :)
Even when you’re presented with challenges, you still probide videos, great commitment
Not only do you educate on how things are done when working combines you put humour into it as well, really makes me wish I had taken the chance when I was 18 to go to the states, I'm just a little 2 Bloody old now!🤔😂😂😂. Love your blogs, Happy hunting and have a safe one, Cheers, Chook,
I like how you take the rock out of the ground and leaves it on top of the ground
Ya smart hu
it's already harvested so they wont drive a combine there this year. And to next year they would ether have picked it or mashed it into the ground.
Watch his rock-pickin videos... he loves it. Very satisfying! Much better to be on top of the ground... and he probably remembers them when he's pickin'.
Our neighbours combine caught fire 2 days ago. My wife spotted the smoke and we drove straight to the field. Other neighbour was already there. We knew by the amount of black smoke that the combine was gone but it was about saving crop as you said.
You could mount a tank on the front of the 930 on the grain cart and drive a pump off the front pto. Even an ibc is cheap and it's a 1000L of water right there with the combines.
Thankfully everything was okay for the most part! Thanks for the update. Stay safe
Thank you so much for educating me. As l am not a farmer, this was a great teaching video.
You know a field is big when mike is talking for 4 minutes and you still cant see the end
lol yeah on my field you see the end at the headlands
@@provenxreaperx same
I still remember my first and only combine fire. My tailings elevator, I didn’t even know it was on fire until my grain cart driver came zipping down the field at 20 miles an hour. Yeah, we didn’t have radios back then. I’ve never jumped out of a cab quicker in my life. My heart didn’t skip a beat, it skipped 40 beats.
It's never a waste of time, Mike. Great video!
Haha thanks man! 🙂
@Luke Augustus trueth!
@Luke Augustus yup.
Those darn field rocks. Just seem to grow more tolerant every year to our sprayer applications!?
Ohh Mike,that was soo lucky with fast reaction.
I saw too many combines burnt to ashes.
That's scarry as hell.
When u have to tell fendt we can't use your combines anymore cause they keep starting on fire 🔥🤣🤣
I love videos like this one. Shows you what really happens on the job in farming. Thanks for taking time to show us viewers this Mike!
Great explination on the fires most people just think you call the fire department and they show up !!
Thanks for the insight on your size operation. Great content you put out. Look forward to all your videos.
I used to drive a JD 9880 STS when they were first new in the UK. Whilst combining lodged wheat, the top half of a lifter on the header broke off and went in starting a chain reaction inside and basically turned the threshing system inside out and spitting it all out through the straw chopper. The STS came in to replace a CTS twin rotor machine because it loved to set itself on fire in Beans!
"i am done wasting your guys time" i wish that the video would have been longer. it was fascinating to listen you speak about fires.
I know that rocks are endless but I still can't believe that you left that large one in the field. Have you guys ever considered putting a basket on each of the combines so that if you do pick up a larger rock you can take it out of the field?
We always pick up the big ones and put them on the platform by the cab until you can dispose of them. If you missed picking with rock picker once it can happen again so pick it by hand while you have it.
Thanks Mike. That situation could be devastating im sure. You sure know your equipment. Thanks as always for sharing your experiences.
Please stop saying "Wasting our time." YOU ARE NOT. Your videos are very informative and educational. And since when is gaining knowledge a waste of time. ??? ESPECIALLY when it concerns fire and firefighting. I'd hazard a guess that the majority of your viewer's are here to learn. So we are not having our time wasted by being here. I can appreciate you having your videos "short and sweet" ...and I dare say I wish they were longer, but NEVER a waste of time.
Thank you, AND KEEP UM COMING!!!
I’m sure glad I don’t have rock to deal with!! Sunflowers are flammable also!!
Never boring Mike! great video!
One thing that we have put on our combines is a two gallon pressurized water extinguisher that we can fill ourselves and pressure up with shop air . A little bit of water will do alot to put out a smoldering fire in a combine where a dry chemical extinguisher will just blow sparks around . We put them right on the cab ladder so they are accessible . And they are cheap .
We do the same here in Western Nebraska. We stop everything when there is smoke in the air. Our fire fighting is a shovel, wet gunny sack, or a rubber flap on a handle. A lot of our fires are where fire trucks can't get around very good. So it's farmers and ranches shoveling it out. I wouldn't trade our community for nothing. Everyone helps. Everyone works together.
That's how it should be Andrew! 🙂
I always liked the new holland TR rock traps... they would spit those bigger rocks out the ejection roll pretty good.
Great video Mike good luck combining your lentils
Thanks for the concerns about fires when us down here in Australia just had half our country burndown
"Adiós amigos", perfect pronunciation. Muy buen video!!! Very good video!! Gracias por compartir. Thanks for share.
Such rocks are horror and cause lot of damage, luckily most of them are managed well and stay at te header.
And again vary clear analysis of the situation, cause and technical details, great objective job done once more. Thanks Mike and good luck with continued harvest of your lentils!
It’s 10:30pm AEST where I live in Australia, I was about to go to bed and I saw your video. Can’t say no to a good ol video.
9:35pm PST where I live in the Philippines damm is 11pm there damm
Same here!
Great description and tutorial of the fire dangers, Mike!
And this is how a brand new combine burns to the ground.
Hope all is going good for you Mike, you should definitely get some water tanks on the side of the grain carts. That way you dont have to run a water wagon around.
I’ve had two fires on the same combine, electrical short under hydraulic pump supply line. 2nd time fire dept. didn’t get there in time.
Oliver77 yep had a friend who had a 3050 with a hedge cutter and he just went out and it started smoking. He pulled into a little driveway thingy and saw the fire.
He called the fire dept and the time they got there the whole cab was up in flames
I remember as a kid Dad had a combine fire 12 miles from home. It spread to the field, so he grabbed the shovel and put out the stubble fires quickly and used the fire extinguishers on the combine, but it wasn't enough. So he hauled ass home and came ripping into the yard with the combine still smoldering. Combine was fine, just had to re-paint some areas.
Great Vid Mike!!
When your good at something you make it look easy!! Mike you make it look easy! non farmers just think you drive equipment around......not soooo much.
I'm not a farmer, but I live in a country. Last year I heard a lot of firetrucks going to next village, so I took my motorcycle and went for a ride to check what happend. It appeared to be few hectares of wheat stubble burned down. However on my way there, 1 kilometer before that field I saw smoke on the field just by the road and man trying to put it down with his foot. I told guys at that burned field watching firefighters about it, they took a car and followed me. They to put this fire down for few minutes, then finally firetruck also came to us and just when it arrived, fire in few seconds became few times bigger than it was for last few minutes. Imagine what would happen if it would come few minutes later... What caused that fire? There was rock lying on the ground and header just scuffed it, creating a spark...
We had very dry summer last year in Poland, fortunately this time it was opposite. Some fields were to wet harvest it all at once, because equipment got stuck in mud. But it's better than burning fields and equipment. Farming may really get dangerous, be safe guys!
When he said 32 degrees I thought it was Fahrenheit. Than I remembered he was in Canada 🇨🇦
Or just not in USA
I lost an R62 back in 09 or 10 down in Soloman, KS. My partner and I were working a huge field. My A/C was out and I was cutting north to south. A strong breeze was coming out of the south so I decided to start cutting east to west. The paddle wheel is on the driver side on a Gleaner so I went west with the cabin door closed then opened it on the pass east. There was somebody burning south of us about a mile and I could smell it. After awhile the smell seemed to be getting stronger. Suddenly the machine starting slowing down. I stopped to take a break and check out the problem and immediately became aware that the smell was from my combine. I was on fire. I stopped on the cut side of the field but there was lots of stubble catching fire. Went for the extinguisher and started looking for the source of the fire and it was coming from the hydrostat and all that stubble on the underside of the combine was on fire. My partner was there in minutes cutting down the unharvested part of the field nearby. A fire truck and State Police car came as we were next to the highway on the north end of the field. We lost the combine and had to dump an almost full bin. We had just rebuilt the ole girl before heading to Kansas that July. Bearings, belts, pulleys, beater bars, sickle bar, teeth, rebuilt the wobble box and repaired other items. What a year. Hardly any rocks out there in those fields but heard there were many up to North Dakota and Canada. What an experience! I caught a real bad case of shingles to top it off.
Very interesting , thanks from Pa.USA
I have picked up rocks like that out of our wheat fields for years. Not as much picking them up now that we've been no till since 2012. A friend is building a two story log home in sandy land and we got a whole trailer load to landscape around trees at his house back before we went no till.
Excellent informative video, thanks! Can you imagine the banging noises in that rotor when that threshing element let go, or when the rock first hit the element?? Wow! The HP that AGCO has to do that damage. Bent that hard steel like it was a stick of warm butter. Yeah, I think I would have a super large water tank on tracks carried behind one of those 9RX's you have. What a deal! Great video Mike, makes up for yesterday's eh?
Thanks! I hope so 🙂
We had a static electricity fire on our combine cutting lentils. A neighbor drove our fire pickup to our combine, the operator did not even know that he was on fire.
I would recommend two static cables on the header, along with 2 static cables on the combine.
We are using old roller chain.
Hello from north east Montana.
Your farming method is very good. I also like the way your machinery works. This is not all in India
Nice that it wasn’t really a faulty machine part. Just a rock
Yes, of course
Two years ago i broke 5 fingers with one huge rock. I reversed the header big mistake. Now if pick up a rock we unhook header to remove. Works great.
Thanks for share Mike
Excellent informative video as always, loved it 👍👍🚜🚜💨
Awesome catch-up, Hope the harvest and yields are doing ok. Yup fire is terrible and how quickly it can escalate.
Very informative video Mike, cheers!
Great video , fire in a grain field very bad . I hope the one you just had is the last of the season .See Ya 👍👍✌
We keep a pressure washer hooked up to a water tank. It can really blow the wet stuff on the hot stuff deep inside the combine that you cant get to with a hose and regular nozzle. It also will remove the smoldering or burning chaff.
Great video farmers helping farmers
get a hockey stick they work perfect for cleaning out the rock trap . keeps the dust off u as well
There are Canadians without a hockey stick?
Imagine if you guys didn't roll the land... holy moly
I'm in Alberta and it's the same ROCKS EVERYWHERE
Here's an idea, chuck the rocks on the combine somewhere or give them to the chaser and chuck them out of the paddock! Never to be picked up again!!😁👍
You never waste our time always interesting
I'm surprised that combines don't have fire suppression systems yet.... CaseIH were talking about their combines coming factory with the system back in 08...
The steal back pack blower sprayer has a attach ment that creates foam and make great for fitting fire with the right mixture. Small foot print means you can carry it in just about every peas of equipment.
Exhaust muffler....tried that enough to know some crops need to blow it clean 1-2 times a day. We have lost of grass seeds in Denmark.
Your rake Mike, I would say it is running a bit fast, the faster it go, the more it can assist stones to get in.....your fields look awesome.
When I managed farm in Ukraine, we had same fields, but no gps steering, only half drunk Ukranians....
This is Robert but shows pic of the wife. Just subscribed & farm myself but was wondering if you roll these acres after you plant them with say a 60' roller of some brand. We usually roll out soybean acres to push rocks & fluffed up trash down-especially corn stalks or the root balls. Flex heads on the combines injest rocks or dirt clods that are still cloddy in the fall even after rains that should have melted the dirt clods all summer have not. Makes for easier harvesting as with dust you will not see a rock laying there when your combining.
60’ Roller that’s a toy on this farm, he uses two 7 section 90’ rollers and that he’s says rolls maybe 10 to 15 thousand acres. Most of his ground the last 25 to 30 Thousand Acres do not need to be rolled because of being planted in Wheat or Barley. I think you are underestimating the size of Mikes farm he has 5,000 to 6,000 Acres FIELDS.
Thanks Mike!!
Very interesting vid👍lucky there wasn’t more damage or burnt combine, I seen rock damage like MF 860 with 13 inch hole punch through after feed table, couple CaseIH rotors smash up, one rock, one tree branch both combines right off. I guess we are lucky in Australia have good volunteer fire service, most these trucks carry ten thousand litres of water. Most farmers have furphy cart like us n ex fire trucks or truck that carries big litres. By law all tractors must be fitted with extinguisher, I seen crop fires n depends if standing or harvest the fire will take off, lucky for one local had enough time jump out combine before been engulfed by fire. I saw my mates combine setting off fire, fire jump the over the road into neighbours lucky we got it contained.
Had a combine burn up near my house last year , fire department spent hours fighting it in the field, someone lost a lot of crop
We had a specialist technition come out to do the pre harvest check over and then I would change out parts, bearings etc so he could go to the next job. He started uo the old 865 massey and after a few minutes ran the machine up, fans etc. A stone must have been sitting waiting to go thru the drum. There was a heck of a bang and a fist sized hard stone was ejected out the back and dropped on the ground. It had gone around with the rotor and forced the roof above the drum upwards tight up against the bottom of the radiator. very lucky just needed pounding down and radiator lived. Just don't harvest with the rock tarp open. It gets messy very quickly.
Don't you just hate it when flames come out of your picker? I told my 75-year-old green bean picker that she was getting slow on her rows and boy did the flames come out of her ears. Made me keep my head down and pick string beans faster..... Gotta love her anyway. Maybe the most flames were when she said "Can It" and I replied, "canning is your job this afternoon."
Scary things them fires , had one on a big baler once , but was able to get out the field and control it with little damage ,
I'm learning so much
I am thinking a high volume flow of air blown constantly through the rock trap might be a good idea to keep it clear of chaff.
That same thing happen to us in 2018 soybean harvest and we were on some new ground and a rock got stuck in the feeder house and the smoke was from a belt that was slipping
EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE VIDEO 🎥📹📸
That’s the same thing I do...dump the rocks from the rock trap right back in the field. That way you can see them again next year 🤣
The fire tamer can be found on page 56 in The Book. I believe it actually is from Arrowwood. It can shoot water 100 feet at 85 GPM. At $6995.00 it might not be a bad investment for big farmers.
Did anyone else get anxiety at pointy guard at 2 mins 50 lol
When you keep up driving combine he make fire
Do you guys have any sort of harvest ban days for high fire risk days?
In Australia each area has a volunteer bush fire brigade made up of farmers fire trucks (We all have trucks)
Each brigade captain discusses the weather each morning at 8 am with the other captains
If the weather meets certain criteria they can force all activity in the fields to stop (except livestock watering)
Something like $100k fine for working on a harvest ban
Usually like if it gets to 38*c (100f) and windy and 0% humidity they'll call a harvest ban
Can be annoying sometimes but usually it's so hot the hydraulic oil starts boiling in the combine and your just shattering the grain in the heads
Because it's only like 10 times during summer everyone takes the day off to go to the beach, great day with the whole community down at the beach
On a fire ban day a fire in a wheat feild will take 10 ha (30ac) every few minutes, right up to 100ha (300ac) a minute
There's no stopping it we usually end up just wait in the road verge to try and stop it jumping into the next feild
People die and a lot of machines have been lost trying to out run a fire with a disc and tractor
I would keep the rocks and build a outdoor firepit/kitchen/pizza oven with them!!! :) or redo peeps's fireplaces lol .... patios
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it costed money so USE IT !!! :) (one of my new laws of life)
4:20 the 'high' one is good.
We picked up a piece of wood one time with our header and it got stuck up in the rock trap. Luckily m dad smelt it, hopped off raced round the header and couldnt find where it was coming from. To be on the safe side he drove it into a dam that was luckily close by. Opened up the rock trap and gave it a bit more oxygen and thats when it became apparent where the problem was. She was smokin like an old steam train. Raced over to him with the firetruck and used a mist rather than a jet of water to slowly soak the chaff. Too close for comfort. Another time when unloading i was in the truck, he was in the header and i got a whiff of smoke. The aircon compressor had siezed and the two belts were slipping and setting fire to the stubble but right in front of the back wheel that was running over it and putting it out. Massey headers have good points and bad points. Two way radios are a must to keep drivers informed about whats going on.
Hay Mikey , I’m pretty sure that rock was way to big to get trapped in the rock catcher , this logger doesn’t know shit . Thanks for today’s update . Oh by the way yesterday s vid sucked for us that don’t do patron you got’a give us who might be will’n to pay more vacation vids
Haha regarding the rock that's what we thought too actually, but once we got looking at it we realized that wasn't the fact. The rock trap was most likely full of chaff.
Regarding the video yesterday I agree with you good sir 🙂 and I apologize for my lack of judgment on that one plain and simple.
PS ; you have a great vids , it took me a few to enjoy because of your hipper personality, but I now enjoy your bs . Keep on keep’m on . Congrats to you both , may you both have a lifetime of happiness !!!
Thankyou Todd!
Hey bro ...enjoy every video you post ... my advice on the rocks😁...needs bigger tool box !!🤔
My tractor was on fire the other day, damn mice built a nest on the exhaust manifold. A little concerning when the covers are bolted on, luckily it burned itself out with no damage.
The Welkers put a fire Tamer on the front of big brute, they got it from a company in Calgary. Now their high clearance sprayer is a fire fighter tool during harvest. From what I seen it looks like it works great.
Unless they upgraded it over the winter it runs off of the original sprayer pump and from what I saw it is seriously lacking in both volume and pressure when used on the bigger capacity fire nozzel. Imo it needs a dedicated pump either run from the truck or a separate gas driven one.
@@chucklesx Ok when I saw Welkers use it, it seem to do very well, I was impressed with it. I know to change spray patterns you have to stop and change that manually.
@@deanlarsen1389Yeah I don't doubt the fire tamer product is great and anything that can get more utility from a machine already on the farm is a bonus. I just thought it was let down by the pump especially when it would be a simple job to add a higher volume unit to the vehichle. That being said if faced with a fire any water source is a great help and the fact that the truck is fast both on and off road makes it very usable. :-)
Don't forget to save that rock for Ashtyn rock garden
Mike that stubble looks shorter than when we cut soybeans Great video very informative
Lentils are very short to the ground and the pods can start within 2 to 3 inches off the ground so you have to cut as close to the ground as possible to get them all!
@@kevinmeyer3884 Thanks I live in Kansas so watching farmers operate in the world are informative for me it's different from how we farm around my area of the state
If you don't already have a foaming-agent in the water of your firetruck, you should put some in there. The agent acts as a wetting agent, and the water can penetrate into straw and other things which the surface tension of water would normaly make impossible to penetrate. This reduces the amount of water needed, thus reducing water damages and makes fire fighting easier.
Also, if it is possible, get a good thermal camera specialy desinged fo firefighting efforts. The acceptable ones start at around 500€ in germany, the really good ones go far beyond that, but for you a cheaper one should be enough, as you probably won't use it on a daily basis, and don't need the extra sensitivity to figure out if a warm thing may be a body directly infront of the fire, or just something that also burns.
Greetings from Germany, and always stay safe when fighting fire, no combine is worth a human life!
If the foaming agent is toxic you wouldn't want to be spraying it in a combine right? Because those lentils are food for people.
@@cr4zyj4ck Of course, if they are toxic, you wouldn't want them in a combine. But as far as i know the foaming agents we use are non-toxic and bio-degradable. Although i am not sure how true that actually is...
Were the Welkers shooting that bowling ball again 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes
Oh my god, I must be thinking if you don’t watch your headers if you catch so many rocks. I mean what the heck is going on with your soils.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t want to insult you at all.
Greetings from Germany 😂👌🏻
Nice video by the way.
Frost causes the rocks to come up
Can rock traps be dumped from the cab or is it manual operation only ?
Some manufacturers do, but then you have another sensor to fail, and as you can see, most have to be dug out
My R52 Gleaner has a rock door that automatically opens when it ingests a rock up to the rotor. No beater needed. The rotor kicks it through the door.
I really hope that i will ever see a new Lexion on your field :D
on fire? :D
@@EdvardasHM no :D
perhaps the stuck list needs a companion swallowed rock list? :)
Why don't these combines have onboard fire suppression systems?
I have several ideas for a couple different systems but don't have a guinea pig combine available to me to move it from paper to a working system
really interesting stuff. Couldn't understand why you left the rocks in the field. As an engineer this would be simple to put a mechanical fix for rocks, and bearings can have temp transducers installed. Put a misting system in the combine with a Nitrogen driver, no drenching required it will supress the fire 🔥 in seconds with virtually no water. Been putting these in passenger ships and hotels for years.
Works well for enclosed areas that are fairly open and free
Not going to do crap to a combine fire
Need to get though cubic metres of chaff and hay
All smoldering
Just the same as a c02 extinguisher doesn't work
Can't Smother a combine fire with gas
You can get machine fire supresion systems
Usually 200lts or so of foam
But they don't work well either
The only true system is to pull the guards and dump in thousands of litres of water and I really mean thousands of litres
Lots of people have tried fire supresion systems over the years
Best system is to have a fire truck parked in the corner of the feild
Even if the nitrogen manages to penetrate all that organic matter, the fire is caused by something deep inside the combine getting hog enough to set the harvest on fire, and you have to pour water on it to cool it down.
cr4zyj4ck To be clear. A Fog misting system uses high pressure water which is atomised through ultra fine jets. The Nitrogen is the Gas that drives the water so you dont need massive pumps. The gas does not put out the fire the atomised water does. The point of atomisation is to remove the need for thousands of gallons of water. You use thousands of gallons because you need a huge surface area of water to put out the fire i.e soak as you say. By atomising the water you use less water and vastly increase the surface area billions of very small droplets greater area. I have designed systems which put out up to 30MW. where fires are suppressed and then soaked. These systems are specifical designed for enclosed spaces, if linked with fast tracking heats sensors they can suppress instantaneously like a spark in a flour mill or similar. Its just a different way of looking at it. A small compact system through the internals of the bine would be effective .