Great video. Richard Frank is brilliant as usual. He is among the best at analyzing the various complex factors of the war's end, and of explaining it clearly.
Frank says that the US didn't do invasions outside of the range of land-based air support, so the Japanese knew where the US planned to land for the invasion of Japan. But almost all the invasions in Nimitz's theater (as distinct from MacArthur's) were supported only by carrier-based air: Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Kwajalein, Saipan, Iwo, Okinawa, not to mention MacArthur's landing on Leyte.
Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War. It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war. According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then. According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain. As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces. As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another. China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States. The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.
Unfortunately his speech is full of inaccuracies and gross generalizations when it comes to Japan. The Big Six wasn't composed of 5 militaries and 1 civilian as he stressed at the beginning of his presentation (arguably to give the strong impression that Japan being fully controlled by radical militaries, Truman really didn't have the choice whether to drop the atomic bomb or not) but of the Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Navy Minister, Army Minister, one Admiral and one General. It is TWO civilians, not one. Furthermore, anyone a bit familiar with Japanese modern history knows that the Imperial Navy and the Imperial Army strongly opposed each other on different and important matters (the issue of unconditional surrender being one of these). The events which led to the dropping of the atomic bombs and Japan surrender are much more complex and nuanced than what is stressed in this flawed presentation.
That’s right: let's conveniently ignore the fact that the Prime Minister, Kantarō Suzuki, was a former Admiral in the Japanese Navy. The only inaccuracy that I see here is yours. You are attempting to muddy the waters by referring to Suzuki as a “civilian.”
@@crogeny Yes, FORMER military and civilian at the time of surrender. That being said, my point is that M. Frank's whole presentation is organized around the idea that there was no other choice than using the bomb on Japan, which is just not true (Japan's capitulation was as much if not more motived by the Soviet invasion of Manchuria than the A bomb).
@@SomaiShinjiBut that is not how the leadership responded. Declaring marshal law to prevent surrender is not surrendering. The leadership wanted to continue the war and said so and never considered surrender. The invasion might have failed and IJA would have continued to kill 250,000 people a month.
Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War. It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war. According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then. According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain. As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces. As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another. China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States. The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.
Great video. Richard Frank is brilliant as usual. He is among the best at analyzing the various complex factors of the war's end, and of explaining it clearly.
Thank you for the great lecture
Superb presentation!
Fascinating presentation should be required viewing by all, among many revelations Richard also explains why the US was compelled to bomb Nagasaki.
Frank says that the US didn't do invasions outside of the range of land-based air support, so the Japanese knew where the US planned to land for the invasion of Japan.
But almost all the invasions in Nimitz's theater (as distinct from MacArthur's) were supported only by carrier-based air: Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Kwajalein, Saipan, Iwo, Okinawa, not to mention MacArthur's landing on Leyte.
The US Army would be doing the invasion so yes land based aircraft.
Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War.
It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war.
According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then.
According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain.
As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces.
As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another.
China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States.
The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.
Unfortunately his speech is full of inaccuracies and gross generalizations when it comes to Japan. The Big Six wasn't composed of 5 militaries and 1 civilian as he stressed at the beginning of his presentation (arguably to give the strong impression that Japan being fully controlled by radical militaries, Truman really didn't have the choice whether to drop the atomic bomb or not) but of the Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, Navy Minister, Army Minister, one Admiral and one General. It is TWO civilians, not one. Furthermore, anyone a bit familiar with Japanese modern history knows that the Imperial Navy and the Imperial Army strongly opposed each other on different and important matters (the issue of unconditional surrender being one of these). The events which led to the dropping of the atomic bombs and Japan surrender are much more complex and nuanced than what is stressed in this flawed presentation.
That’s right: let's conveniently ignore the fact that the Prime Minister, Kantarō Suzuki, was a former Admiral in the Japanese Navy. The only inaccuracy that I see here is yours. You are attempting to muddy the waters by referring to Suzuki as a “civilian.”
@@crogeny Yes, FORMER military and civilian at the time of surrender. That being said, my point is that M. Frank's whole presentation is organized around the idea that there was no other choice than using the bomb on Japan, which is just not true (Japan's capitulation was as much if not more motived by the Soviet invasion of Manchuria than the A bomb).
@@SomaiShinjiBut that is not how the leadership responded. Declaring marshal law to prevent surrender is not surrendering. The leadership wanted to continue the war and said so and never considered surrender. The invasion might have failed and IJA would have continued to kill 250,000 people a month.
Operation Ichi-Go is an operation conducted by the Japanese Army on the Chinese mainland from April 17th to December 10th, 1944 during the Sino-Japanese War.
It was the last major offensive of the Japanese Army, which caused the National Revolutionary Army to be hit hard and affected during the Chinese Civil War. However, on the other hand, the United States is also mediating the conclusion of the Double Tenth Agreement with Chiang Kai-shek in order to avoid a civil war.
According to a study by Barbara W. Tuchman, the results of this operation had a more significant impact on the subsequent war situation than the Japanese had imagined, and had a decisive impact on Japan's fate. According to it, Franklin Roosevelt has consistently strongly trusted and supported Chiang Kai-shek since the beginning of the war, and encouraged him in the war against Japan so that he would not drop out of the Allies in a single peace with Japan during the Cairo Conference. However, he said that he changed his mind because the front of Chiang Kai-shek collapsed due to this operation. In fact, Chiang Kai-shek has not been invited to important Allied conferences ("Yalta Conference" and "Potsdam Conference") since then.
According to the Stilwell document, Roosevelt said, "Can China win?" Stilwell said, "There is no choice but to eliminate Chiang Kai-shek." During the 1944 Hengyang battle, he could not sleep at night and twice. He says he thought about suicide. The American side also planned to assassinate Chiang Kai-shek, and three methods of "poisoning", "aircraft incident", and "pretending to be suicide" were considered, but it was canceled in 1944 due to changes in the international situation such as Burma. The successor that the United States envisioned is Sun Fountain.
As Roosevelt's Chief of Staff George Marshall and General Joseph Stilwell have long insisted, Chiang Kai-shek's army is actually a demoralized and corrupt organization that does not form an army. It became clear that he had no desire or ability to fight with the United States and other Allied forces.
As a result, President Roosevelt changed the scenario of the operation against Japan from the conventional bombing of Japan and other countries from the air bases of mainland China to the one that MacArthur and others claimed to occupy the islands of the Pacific Ocean one after another.
China was dismissed at the Yalta Conference, and the Allied nation's footsteps were disturbed, with angry Chiang Kai-shek presenting a peace plan to Japan against the will of the United States.
The Japanese Operation Ichi-Go attack left the National Revolutionary Army with 750,000 casualties. This caused the Kuomintang to lose to the Communist Party in the civil war. China would not have been dominated by the dictatorship Communist Party if it had made peace with Japan and cooperated in protecting it from communism.