Hi First contact, glad you're doing this and will be following. As a Gary Grigsby addict this game is often overlooked and is a great game, especially the strategic campaign.
This is great! I've supported GG since WintE1, and when this came out I bought it with printed manual. Yay! I don't think I got past turn one of the first tutorial....nothing daunted I did the same with WintE2, but with greater success and longevity. Finding your channel now could revive my Western ambition. Subb'd!!
Glad to see you're getting into war in the west as well! If you want a challenge I think a fun idea would be to try the 1945 campaign of war in the west and the vistula to berlin campaign of war in the east 2 as the Germans (they are both the same time period just the different front) and see which front you can hold out for longer. Alternatively you could try the same campaigns as the allies/ soviets and see which side can win in the fewest turns. You could do the race to Berlin against yourself!
I really like this idea! I think when the 1941 and 1943 campaigns are done I will come back and do this as a revisit to both games. I expect by that time (months from now) we will be deep in WiTP:AE and could use something a little more laid back! Thanks for all your support Louis!
You're asking your strategic day bombers to hit many targets beyond friendly fighter escort range. That's always a risky option. Historically, unescorted bombers usually suffered heavy losses that were unsustainable. The key lesson that 1943 provided to the real-world USAAF was: _Do NOT bomb beyond friendly fighter escort range._
I picked up WitW when it was on sale last year and was thoroughly wrecked with my first playthrough of Operation Husky. I just finished watching Strategy Gaming Dojo's excellent videos, and I'm still hoping he will be continuing that series. I'm happy to have found these, though! Thanks for a good first turn!!
BTW you're 90/110 settings is a good idea v AI. I give the Soviets a slight advantage in wite2 especially ability to fortify, which is historical according to German reports apparently.
20:30 please don't share your personal opinions about strategic bombing, only because they don't track with the thinking or reasons given at the time. Firstly you are wrong about day and night bombing. USAAF bombed only during the day. Ostensibly to see and target better, but as you alluded to, later on carpet bombing happened, not the precision bombing of the early war. This is because 8th Air Force had the highest casualties out of anyone in the US armed forces that war. RAF bomber wing also had the most casualties out of a single military body in the war, because of the time they were exposed to enemy fire and the war, ie. attrition, but we try not to forget their sacrifices either. There were night fighters, very good ones that were guided by radar from the ground? In all theatres, but there were few of them, only one or two at a time over any given city, but they killed whatever they wanted to, pretty much. So it was often flak, often also guided by radar from the French coast inwards. The British and Americans would never say that all human beings in those cities were against them, because that's impossible and it is admitting to war crimes, even by the Third Geneva Convention extant at the time to target civilians. I don't really get why you think you can rationalise it to us like that, the fact that lots of women and children were killed and that you are still the only nation in the world to do that to people, but never have it done to you. You see, the British suffered the "Blitz" using incendiaries in their cities to try to break them before they mounted a campaign to do the same thing back. However, the Schweinfurt raid and so on were to target specific important aspects of war production, such as ball-bearings. There was no "we need to get every human against us mentally in that place", because we were supposed to be "liberating" them, remember? Don't get confused about it, because were not at the time. It is testament to our brave French allies that they do not hate us for bombing their civilians too at night being imprecise. I have been to the museums on the French coast and seen the headlines about them and how the French do not reproach us, it is truly humbling. This is why Hamburg and Dresden are so problematic, because there was no such justification. This needs to be blamed on bomber Harris. It was his idea that the Second and Third waves were to target the emergency services to be deployed against the fires started in the first wave in the planning. This is a war crime right in the planning, let alone the unintended consequences of the firestorms above both that killed massive amounts of civilians by suffocation. Can you imagine that? Hundred mile an hour winds, sucking all the oxygen out to feed the conflagration in the sky above you from the amount of incendiaries burning at the same time? I'm not German and my relatives were bombed by the Nazis, by i and many others have the empathy to recognise that for what it is. This would also apply to using the same tactics on the 90% wooden homes in Japan or with nuking civilian targets. You need to at least try to read the reasons they gave at the time, which are also pretty weak, but not dumb enough to admit to war crimes, like you were. Why you do that is because you've never been carpet bombed before, when your civilians are bombed, we will see your true character, until than, that is why you say such morally and legally indefensible things. Bombing foreigners if fine with you. We get that, please raise your game in the justifications that somehow women and children were against you all in America, because they weren't.
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Hi First contact, glad you're doing this and will be following.
As a Gary Grigsby addict this game is often overlooked and is a great game, especially the strategic campaign.
Thanks for a great description. Look forward to watching these in the future
This is great! I've supported GG since WintE1, and when this came out I bought it with printed manual. Yay! I don't think I got past turn one of the first tutorial....nothing daunted I did the same with WintE2, but with greater success and longevity. Finding your channel now could revive my Western ambition. Subb'd!!
Glad to see you're getting into war in the west as well! If you want a challenge I think a fun idea would be to try the 1945 campaign of war in the west and the vistula to berlin campaign of war in the east 2 as the Germans (they are both the same time period just the different front) and see which front you can hold out for longer. Alternatively you could try the same campaigns as the allies/ soviets and see which side can win in the fewest turns. You could do the race to Berlin against yourself!
I really like this idea! I think when the 1941 and 1943 campaigns are done I will come back and do this as a revisit to both games. I expect by that time (months from now) we will be deep in WiTP:AE and could use something a little more laid back! Thanks for all your support Louis!
You're asking your strategic day bombers to hit many targets beyond friendly fighter escort range. That's always a risky option. Historically, unescorted bombers usually suffered heavy losses that were unsustainable.
The key lesson that 1943 provided to the real-world USAAF was: _Do NOT bomb beyond friendly fighter escort range._
I picked up WitW when it was on sale last year and was thoroughly wrecked with my first playthrough of Operation Husky. I just finished watching Strategy Gaming Dojo's excellent videos, and I'm still hoping he will be continuing that series. I'm happy to have found these, though! Thanks for a good first turn!!
This is pretty cool! I am running a War In the Pacific PBEM on my channel and it’s cool to see other GG games.
Nice I will follow this series. Just started to play the regular 1943 campaign on Axis side.
BTW, would love to see you do a pbem in any GG game....
Good day first contact gamer
Hoping you have an excellent day!
Thank you for this video. Thanking of buying. How are the sound effects?
BTW you're 90/110 settings is a good idea v AI.
I give the Soviets a slight advantage in wite2 especially ability to fortify, which is historical according to German reports apparently.
20:30 please don't share your personal opinions about strategic bombing, only because they don't track with the thinking or reasons given at the time.
Firstly you are wrong about day and night bombing. USAAF bombed only during the day. Ostensibly to see and target better, but as you alluded to, later on carpet bombing happened, not the precision bombing of the early war. This is because 8th Air Force had the highest casualties out of anyone in the US armed forces that war. RAF bomber wing also had the most casualties out of a single military body in the war, because of the time they were exposed to enemy fire and the war, ie. attrition, but we try not to forget their sacrifices either.
There were night fighters, very good ones that were guided by radar from the ground? In all theatres, but there were few of them, only one or two at a time over any given city, but they killed whatever they wanted to, pretty much. So it was often flak, often also guided by radar from the French coast inwards.
The British and Americans would never say that all human beings in those cities were against them, because that's impossible and it is admitting to war crimes, even by the Third Geneva Convention extant at the time to target civilians. I don't really get why you think you can rationalise it to us like that, the fact that lots of women and children were killed and that you are still the only nation in the world to do that to people, but never have it done to you. You see, the British suffered the "Blitz" using incendiaries in their cities to try to break them before they mounted a campaign to do the same thing back.
However, the Schweinfurt raid and so on were to target specific important aspects of war production, such as ball-bearings. There was no "we need to get every human against us mentally in that place", because we were supposed to be "liberating" them, remember? Don't get confused about it, because were not at the time. It is testament to our brave French allies that they do not hate us for bombing their civilians too at night being imprecise. I have been to the museums on the French coast and seen the headlines about them and how the French do not reproach us, it is truly humbling.
This is why Hamburg and Dresden are so problematic, because there was no such justification. This needs to be blamed on bomber Harris. It was his idea that the Second and Third waves were to target the emergency services to be deployed against the fires started in the first wave in the planning. This is a war crime right in the planning, let alone the unintended consequences of the firestorms above both that killed massive amounts of civilians by suffocation. Can you imagine that? Hundred mile an hour winds, sucking all the oxygen out to feed the conflagration in the sky above you from the amount of incendiaries burning at the same time?
I'm not German and my relatives were bombed by the Nazis, by i and many others have the empathy to recognise that for what it is. This would also apply to using the same tactics on the 90% wooden homes in Japan or with nuking civilian targets. You need to at least try to read the reasons they gave at the time, which are also pretty weak, but not dumb enough to admit to war crimes, like you were. Why you do that is because you've never been carpet bombed before, when your civilians are bombed, we will see your true character, until than, that is why you say such morally and legally indefensible things.
Bombing foreigners if fine with you. We get that, please raise your game in the justifications that somehow women and children were against you all in America, because they weren't.