Ace Attorney- Spirit of Justice (53) Avoiding the Questions
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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"You should know I always come fully prepared, Mr. Justice." Phoenix lied as easily as he breathed
Phoenix’s Objection theme playing while he’s against us sure does hit different.
This is what the prosecutors go through, every time they deal with Phoenix’s turnabouts.
Yeah, is cool and scary
As one comment said
"Apollo: Why do I hear my boss' music"
5:00 Haha, Phoenix learned 1 or 2 things from Simon Blackquill on how to manipulate the judge to your advantage xD
It is nice to see him in court, without his inner monologue. It gives us the rare chance to see how it is to be on the receiving end of Phoenix and his worldfamous bluffing and turnabouts!^^
If the Edgeworth games have taught us anything it's that any character seems 500 times smarter when you can't hear their inner monologue.
Somewhere Edgeworth is getting a feeling that someone's autopsy report was updated
Twice in one game, no less
4:57 So according to what very little information we have on the Judge's age, he is at least 57 years old during Spirit of Justice. Bear in mind that this information is almost entirely from a single remark made in Trials and Tribulations to his younger brother.
What did he say in T&T?
I've never felt fear like hearing Phoenix's objection theme being played AGAINST us
I always love when I hear the theme of a hero from their opponent’s POV. It oozes a confidence that can’t be broken easily.
Can I just say, I love Lucah’s voice for Paul Atishson. It’s just so perfectly smarmy and condescending, it’s great!
Paul Atishon-Wimperson is quite the on-the-nose stereotype of his pun namesake: egotistical, believing he’s the smartest man in the room, only hearing what he wants to hear, and, as we learn here, determined to give only non-answers to questions, dodging them completely, or else only answering when it reflects positively upon him or his family. Given how his family is reputable, which is why no one can speak up about his aggressive campaigning style, I can’t help but wonder if his grandfather knows what a spoiled narcissist his grandson is.
Also, even if we don’t know why Phoenix is being so mysterious, he’s proving to be a very dangerous opponent, surprising the whole court with the idea of Dr. Buff’s death being murder, and even managing to get the judge on his side for once.
Abraham was a good name choice for his grandfather, too.
plus, hiding behind his family's reputation just to make himself look better by association
and of course phoenix breaks the stalemate by, of course, making the trial once again about mruder cause even in a civil trial with two lawyers and no prosecutors its always murder in ace attorney, and of course it means whoever did the murder can no longer lay claim to the orb/crystal
"did you think i'd come to court without witnesses or evidence" i mean phoenix this is the FIRST time you've ever had witnesses ready to call before the trial is on so…yeah tbh
How did I just now realize as of this video that Ami is just Mia with the 'a' moved to the beginning. That's a nice reference.
26:00
After all these years, Phoenix is now the one to bring in the updated autopsy report. Edgeworth would be so proud.
What I love about this is that it shows Phoenix is perfectly capable to use good ol' judge manipulation tactics when he has to... lowkey Beanix vibes there
the judge had a full grey beard by 2012 and this case is taking place in 2028 so he must be pretty old
12:20 If only the Atishons stepped in to protect Misty Fey during DL-6, maybe the Fey Family wouldn't have become laughing stocks when Yanni Yogi was accused by the channeled Spirit of Gregory Edgeworth for killing him in an Elevator. The Atishons didn't care about the Fey Family at all! Misty Fey would've had the Crystal of Ami Fey, the Fey Family had the Urn with AMI FEY'S FIRST NAME ON IT, which contained her Spirit before Maya accidentally broke it. Yeah, Mia helped her fix it, however, it was later shattered by Pearl, again, on accident, but, she tried fixing it, she just couldn't remember what it said, so spelled "AMI" as "I AM". It was then properly fixed when moved to Adrian Andrews' Museum of Ku'rain artifacts, Lordly Tailor. Is that spelled correctly?
Dang, All of that from ONE statement by Paul Atishon-Wimperson.
Yeah, this guy is retconning a lot of established details about the Fey family just to make a one-shot opponent.
@@ekimmak Also, how did Archie Buff get Artifacts of the Fey clan IN ADRIAN'S POSSESSION? You cannot say there were two Urns & Statues of Ami Fey; they were first seen in AA2 & AA3 respectively. Was Adrian just like "Oh, this Archelogist wants to study Artifacts from Ku'rain? I hope he returns them in 7 years time."
@@luxrayblast I'd assume that after the exhibition, those were returned to their relevant places, because that statue was there to be a fake cause of death for Misty Fey.
@@ekimmak oh, well, Phoenix would've known they were returned and shouldn't have been in Buff's- wait... hold on... why is this the FIRST GAME that the Founder's Orb was relevant?
@@luxrayblast Because this is the first game that the kingdom of Kura'in is a thing, and they're just injecting a whole bunch of things to create a conflict to justify this nonsense.
... No wonder Ace Attorney is so hard to write for. Fans like us are impossible to satisfy.
The animation where he crumbles his placard might just be in my top 10 animations in the franchise. Paul Atishon never ceases to crack me up. That audible GASP just SENDS me.
its a really fun take on the usual aniamtions cause it's NOT a canned animation, it has continuity to it in that his placard REMAINS fucked up afterwards.
You were thinking too hard about that photo. The "tree" in the photo was actually just a bush.
Buff's body had to be on the first floor because we found it like that
yeha it seems she just...completely forgot that...we were there. On the first floor.
Phoenix seems like he's really getting a kick out of this actually. Prosecutors get all the breaks.
As this is a civil trial and not a criminal one, he is not a prosecutor, but just a lawyer representing his client.
If he was, I would call him the best prosecutor in the series^^
@@TheMaleLynn I'd be inclined to award the laurels to a certain top-hatted gentleman, though you could argue about whether it's in the series or not.
Maybe that was his true calling in life.
Meanwhile Edgeworth in 3-5: (Is there some sort of "Kick Me" sign stuck to the defense's bench!?)
@@coruscant100 He surmised as much at the end of Edgeworth's acquittal, since it was only because of Manfred that Miles became a Prosecutor (and only because of Miles and Larry that Phoenix became a Defender)
I didn't see the vision at first but oh my goodness having a very difficult witness be a politician is absolutely perfect
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Phoenix is generally 10 times more competent whenever we aren't the one controlling him. In Apollo justice, he was super clever, but then in dual destinies he loses a good 50% of his competence overnight, it seems
Here's a thought, if this thing is supposed to be an heirloom of the Fey clan, maybe ask for a statement from Maya about it? Or Pearl? You'd think they'd probably know some stuff about their ancestor, especially whether or not she had a special orb at some point.
I guess the argument is, since the crystal has been in the Atishions’ possession for so long, the Feys don’t remember what it looks like. That could mean neither Maya nor Pearl would know what it looks like.
Seeing how long since they had it, Nick could just make the argument that they don't remember it.
Game: Oh, civil cases are so boring, so… bring out the murder!
Udgy is actually a thousand years old. He drank from the Fountain of Youth and is now immortal.
Also, now it's Phoenix's turn to update the autopsy report!
Now we _finally_ get to experience what it is like going against Phoenix, and his turnabout thinking and bluffs making him a relentless legal juggernaut. Even Edgeworth and Godot must've felt overwhelmed!
21:42 The aquarium owner in Dual Destinies’ DLC case is probably the only death that was accidental instead of murder.
You could argue Jack Hammer in 1-3 - his death was accidental, as Vasquez only meant to push him back.
@@Someguyhere111 I'd argue the death in 1-3 is probably also criminal negligence seeing as the same fence had already caused someone's death and no one changed it in 5 years!
we have also had ancillary deaths that weren't murder, like celeste inpax's suicide
You know, it sure would be nice if we had someone from the Fey family able to testify about if this is the Crystal of Ami Fey or not. If only we knew someone like that.
It's not the fact we have no insight into Phoenix's thoughts that gets me about going up against him. What gets me is up until now, he's spent half his trials trying to get a word in edgeworth. But this time is different. He's spending most of his time listening. Waiting. Only speaking to the court when he has to or when it helps his case in some way.
I'd say it's both because this is a civil case rather than criminal, and the fact it's his own apprentice he's fighting against. He knows his own tricks well, so he has to change his strategy in order to stand a chance.
It would be one thing if it was a typical action series using this trope, but the fact that it's a courtroom drama somehow makes it feel way more harrowing.
I have to wonder if any of Phoenix's claims here are just his usual bluffs that he's known for.
Yeah, Phoenix fights REALLY hard in this trial, and it certainly makes sense, he HAS had a few sequences in the past where he was able to play REALLY sneaky games. Tricking Damon Gant into validating evidence that proved him a murderer, that forged evidence in the first trial of Apollo Justice, the entirety of the second day of Matt Engarde's trial. Phoenix could certainly pull this sorta thing.
Of course, that leads to what I feel is one of the worst takes I've seen on this whole sequence. Effectively arguing that it's too sudden and weird that Apollo, with less experience is even able to go toe-to-toe with Phoenix. That phoenix's legal prowess is just too great. Like Ace Attorney is a game about power scaling. Honestly, the franchise has ALWAYS pointed against this. Green Rookie Phoenix in the first game was able to not only see through the murder scheme in case 4 that Von Karma orchestrated, but also caught Von Karma as the murderer in the DL-6 incident. You know, that guy who had a 40 year perfect streak in court. Ace Attorney has always been about the truth, even when Phoenix was defending Matt Engarde, he was able to argue in favor of Matt disturbingly well, but Edgeworth was giving a LOT of good push back. In fact, Edgeworth could've easily won that trial at multiple points, but he was also in on the fact that Phoenix had his hands severely tied. It was so tight that Edgeworth literally had to rest his case because anything else would soundly catch Matt. Phoenix is obviously working with someone bullshitting things for his own ends, but the one consistency in Ace Attorney is that the truth trumps all.
I had the DLC costumes on in this game. Phoenix is dressed as Furio Tigre and he is dripped the FUCK out, while Apollo is just a little schoolboy
Love that Phoenixs turnabout theme plays when he makes a dramatic reveal, but this time it used against us.
Hey, at least we got Ema and Phoenix working together once again
here's what i do to help me go to sleep, i found this youtuber named Lucahjin... you may have heard of her... pick a playlist and let it run at night... her soothing voices helps me drift right off to sleep
You're officially further than I ever got playing this myself, so I'm delighting in not knowing what's going to happen next!
Paul Atishon-Wimperson is based off the stereotype the democratic Japanese people have of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, (RIP) hence why Paul’s grandfather is named Abe (it’s Ah bey) Atishon.
Ives Shineto: I’ve seen it all.
6:39 As an Italian, I can confirm we have mighty fine plastic. So fine, in fact, that we use it instead of flour to make the dough for pasta/pizzas.
Ah yes, a good plate of Italian plasta.
@@aimelle3 Indeed, accompanied by a good slice of HDPE-zza.
26:44 Youuuuuu are the ooooooocean's gray waaaaaaaaaves...
Destined to seek, life beyond, the shore, just out of reeeeach....
I kinda hate how this civil case over the Founder’s Orb quickly devolved into yet another murder trial for Dr. Buff. It was painfully obvious that Dr. Buff’s death was not an accident, but it sucks that every single case has to go back to murder. I had the same problem with The Stolen Turnabout from T&T.
That's the same feeling I had, I'd love for some actual non-murder mysteries to appear in the series. But the problem with not-murder is that usually there will be a victim who can talk about what happened, which is why the second-most common crime in mystery stories is theft that happens sneakily. And the detective genre is hard to do well in the first place, even without having to come up with an excuse for why the victim can't just point at the culprit, or without having to avoid disappointment when the police off-screen finds the culprit in their files based on the evidence.
Ironic that "always murder" mysteries lessen the severity of murders (at least in-universe), and raises the intrigue of less serious crimes, like assault.
I love Paul Atishon's dialogue. They really captured the way American politicians talk around a question without really answering it. Lucah's voice for him really captures how smug and annoying of a character he is.
This game is Japanese, it’s based on Shinto Abe allegedly. Nothing to do with America, but all politicians talk like this
I think we're about the same age, and as woman in my 40s, insomnia was the first pre-menopause symptom that showed up. Maybe it's the same for you? I went to the doctor twice and got nowhere until I was talking to my mom about it one day and she offhandledly said, "hey, that was my first pre-menopause symptom, maybe that's what's happening to you."
What eventually worked for me was a low dose of anti-anxiety meds. Just knocks me out in minutes. Also I started playing Pokemon Sleep. Doesn't help with insomnia but it makes waking up more fun.
The Judge is ageless and eternal. Born old
4:23 Ives Shineto = I’ve seen it all. And yes, Ives is a real name.
According to Google, Ives is name of French origin and means “yew.” It's derived from the Old French given name Yves, which was commonly given to boys.
Still, better than “Frank Sahwit”.
Don’t forget to show your badge to everyone, and check their profiles often.
"...Or should I say, Mr. Did It?" ~Phoenix
Sorry, couldn't resist. 🤭 That's a legitimate quote from the first game, though.
Yew?
I'm holding back my laughter.
Would've been a funny name for Shih Na
French person here, can confirm Yves is still a name used nowadays, never seen it spelled Ives outside of this game though
@@vb8133 Is it pronounced with an ī or an ē?
I don't know if this would help you, but whenever I struggle to fall asleep I always listen to some podcasts! It stops my brain from wandering to random thoughts I might have and allows it to turn off.
I do similar. It sounds counter productive, but having something simple to focus on makes it easier to relax, my mind tends to race through lots of different thoughts and subjects otherwise.
@@Nibbiefulif your mind races it helps to write everything down
Whimperson pulling a self report
My sleep aid of choice is to watch a video of someone doing a complicated puzzle, something to tire out my brain. My go-tos are either a complicated Sudoku variant on Cracking the Cryptic, or a Baba Is You mod.
This case makes a lot more sense once you've seen the end of it. Keep going!
I fall asleep to watching your Pokémon LPs 😂
14:21 It’s confusing but, Paul knows it’s not the Crystal of Ami Fey. He knows it’s the Founder’s Orb. He’s only claiming it’s the Crystal of Ami Fey so that he can get his hands on it to give to his benefactor who wants it, and in exchange his benefactor will get the people of the village to vote for him.
So yeah, his benefactor wants Dr. Buff to study it before he or she officially obtains it, which is this benefactor asked Paul to give it to the doctor to study. If it were the Crystal or Ami Fey, an item that Paul seems to know a lot about given that it is his family’s most precious heirloom, there’d be no reason for him to give it to the doctor to study.
It took me a while to figure out, but "Ives Shineto" is a name pun for "I've Seen It All"
Phoenix’s theme playing against you hits hard in a way no prosecutor ever could
Yeah politicians talking is a lot like mercutio from Romeo and Juliet. They may talk a lot but they don't say much
Phoenix has represented some dumb people but this one might be the dumbest.
Gosh, he’s such a doofus, I love Paul’s dopey animations!
How the tables have turned, now Phoenix is the one updating the autopsy report
Re: insomnia … I can easily fall asleep by putting on one of my favorite lucahjin LPs from the past … paper Mario, Mario and Luigi, sometimes ace attorney, suikoden… but I doubt that helps your case sorry you’re having issues with sleep. Trust me I’ve been there
So, not everything is so *crystal clear*...
I think they say he's 78 now?
“Has anyone else seen it in the Atishon residence?”
“I have testimony from his neighbor, Ives Shineto”
Ives Shineto -> I’ve Seen It Too
Goddammit, Capcom…
People think that Phoenix Wright is the ultimate foe we've come up against at this point, but also just remember: he's also an amazing bluff.
A vote for me is a vote for insomnia!
23:43
I've played enough Ace Attorney to know that he's making it up, but will, in the next 60-120 seconds, figure out actual proof that it was murder...
wow! this game has such subtle commentary!
????
a trick to insomnia is to be listening to music, and playing a tiring game, while in the comfort of your comfy comfy bed. boom your eyes will give out on you and then
ROUND 2 FIGHT
36:27 How did "Leaves of Grass" get in this game???? Seriously, who's going to get that reference?
Lucah when you get to cross examine the next witness make sure you press all of their statements especially the last one because the Judge will say something funny
Actually, it's quite common IRL for people to report things to the police anonymously. A lot of people want to avoid the hassle of an investigation or avoid meeting with the police for their own reasons.
i used to watch you back in 2021 when you played danganronpa and id LOVE to see you play raincode
I believe Khura'in is inspired by Nepal, Bhutan, and Tibet. It also seems to use language from China and India though for Rayfa's full name (Rayfa meaning spiritual flower in Chinese and Padma being another name for an Indian lotus). The more you know!
The judge's age was never provided, so we don't know how old our grandpa judge is.
For insomnia? See your doctor - they have medication to assist with it and they would want to do a research for the cause of the insomnia.
in the photo that's not a tree you're seeing. that's a bush, that floor is on the ground level, we now cause we were there, we saw it.
kurain is based on himalayas (mainly Tibet). The localisation makes it more complicated bc they have to change 'here' (the fake la) to Japan.
Paul is pretty fun in just how pathetic and full of himself he is and getting to mock him the whole way
26:02 wow, hes really come full circle 😢
Paul Atishon-Wimperson", his full English name, is a play on the word "politician" (referencing his profession) and both "wimp", "whimper" or "whimpers on" (in reference to his personality).
Oh jeez I wouldn't have guessed😮
For my sleepless nights I turn off everything and cry....(I also drink cherry juice cause apparently it helps with sleeping or doing yoga)
“Apollo Justice… it’s Levio-Saaaaauuuuur~ … any good politician knows thaaaaaat~”
Fr though dark age of the law indeed, this is getting a little silly. Atishon’s one of the most annoying witnesses to cross examine. At times like this I kinda miss Moe and the joke testimonies about his career
if I know Ace Attorney, I have a theory that is is Phoenix playing 4-D chess and Datz is in on this.
Ives Shineto = I've seen it in Engrish. This translators are geniuses! 😂
Of course it turns into a murder
27:10 Personally, I stop drinking caffine of any kind 12h before I usually go to sleep. Maybe this will help?
This Civil Case is lookin' a lot less civil...
I've been listening to ASMR for years now to help fall asleep, don't know if it helps you though, Lucah.
Paul Atishon saying “You can touch it if you want” 😣 David Cameron anyone? 🐖 🐷
Self-aggrandizement (self-ah-grand-eyes-ment). AKA, it means making yourself seem "grander" than you appear, or boasting falsely about yourself.
Anyways, I'm more excited for the next episode since we get to speak to Sarge in the flesh! Get Atishon out of here, we need someone actually likable!
Ives Shineto = I've seen it too.
With how Phoenix is so smooth and in control on the other bench, it makes me wonder if he was more fit to be a prosecutor.
To be fair, before DL-6 and everything with Edgeworth, that was one of his prospective career goals! XD
Even more, you do a lot more prosecuting (thinking of the most likely culprit and build a case against them) in the series than defending. It's after all never enough to just prove someone was unlikely or even unable to be the culprit...
@@isawp5199 Except for 5-4
I'm a bit confused what you mean around 15:00. Kuhar'in and Japan are different countries, in the original version too. The translation just had to add that everything moved from Japan to America as an additional step as well.
27:15 for my insomnia i just smoke a buncha weed
23:57 I’m pretty sure Ema isn’t authorized to perform autopsies? Am I wrong?
She's a forensic investigator, so she proably does have the authority...?
Unfortunately I don't have any insomnia tips. I've got it bad too.
Judge is at least 57.
ZADDY ZHURKE
Man, Ema really has mommy vibes these days...
Reese, your Politician voice is gonna come in handy when you finally get round to Great Ace Attorney. 🇬🇧
Paul Atishon might just be the single most annoying witness in the series.
ZzzQuil if you have it up there
YO
A politician falling asleep in court, that's outragous. These game just keep getting more and more unrealistic /s
It's annoying how more confident wright is and how the judge is always more lenient with him when he's not being played lol Why is wright such a moron when he's played by us? The judge never gives him a break lol.
Simple answer: Inner thoughts.
The main reason Phoenix appears as such an idiot is ,that we hear the doubts in his head. But now all we get is his professional confident Facáde after finding an answer or bluffing to the max
@@TheMaleLynn Oooh good point!
Judge is being pretty fair to both sides here.
@@Someguyhere111 I mean in previous games he's always super harsh on Wright. This is like the one time he isn't on him for the dumbest things.