@kevinrutkowski3034 not a single one lol. NJ had had A LOT of fucking line up changes since its inception. I don't even think of NJ as a band anymore so much as it is a collective if musicians lol. Corey has been consistent but he's still not the OG vocalist. Either way. They've never made a bad album no matter who the members are or how much the sound changes. Fucking love NJ.
It would've been much more incredible had it been with their original singer, Josh Scogin, and not this guy. I saw them twice with this guy and his voice was god awful. I saw then 4 times with Josh and it was epic. Even saw them before they were called Norma Jean, back when they were Luti Kriss and dude...they were insane live.
@@DrummerEvan1 was this one of the like 3 shows they played after they kicked Brad out for being horrendous lmfao. I thought they basically just kicked Brad out after the one tour he did and then got Corey
setlist 1. the shotgun message 2. memphis will be laid to waste 3. the entire world is counting on me and they don't even know it 4. in reference to a sinking ship 5. i used to hate cellphones but now i hate car accidents 6. creating something out of nothing, only to destroy it thank you for this amazing piece of history!
I was fortunate enough to see Norma Jean with Josh at the helm and it was one of the most intense moments of my whole life. Next to Converge, or maybe Drain nowadays, there was no live performance quite like it. Just a full on fucking sonic assault of phenomenal lyrics/vocals, brilliant music, and the energy i cant even really quite describe. What a time to be alive.
Just a whole crowd of people enjoying the music. Man, I miss these days. Totally agree with the comment that metalcore hit different back then. I’m getting too damn old.
This was my favorite band in 2003. I was in junior high and was lucky enough to see them 2 or 3 times. Anyone else have the black Norma Jean shirt with the two shotguns crossing each other on the front?
I remember this tour...either this one or one right around this time. They were headlining and Underoath and Dead Poetic were on this tour as well. One of the best nights of my life. I'll never forget that night. Miss those days
I wish this is what metalcore was now, just 5 dudes that looked like they walked outta their mall jobs into a grungy underground bar, you can hardly understand the lyrics half the time, but the crowd can scream them so loud that it doesn't matter, the singer constantly looks a mixed of exhausted & wired, and the guitarists cannot stand still, the glory days..
Most of the bands i am listening now (including Norma Jean) have the same energy. Ken Mode, Converge, Cancer Bats, Norma Jean, Comeback Kid, Unsane, Whores... just ordinary guys playing heavy music and the entire band loosing their shit on the stage.
Wow, I saw them as Luti Kriss, as Norma Jean with Josh and later several times with Cody. But I had no idea there was a singer in between those eras... 🤯
My best friends older brother got us into “screamo”. He gave me this CD along with an Atreyu, and A Static Lullaby CD. That was my introduction to the scene and this video totally captures the energy of the shows at the Glass House & Chain Reaction. He ended up starting a little band called Apple Not Asteroid for awhile too. Epic times
damn super nostalgic for this comment. first concert I ever took myself to (as in, not with my pops) back in high school was Atreyu, Unearth, Norma Jean at 9:30 club in DC... back in 05.
or Eso-Charis, especially since Jeff Hickey is gone and Cory's brother Adam did drums & percussion on the latest album (though he was Norma Jean's auxiliary percussionist in 2006)
Brad Norris, vocalist during this blip in time, lives not far from where I live in North AL. He’s also had some other rad bands called The Divine Shakes, Lt. Snakebeard, False Suns (probably more but that’s all I’m aware of). His son also plays in a band called TOWU that’s rad. All worth seeking out and giving a whirl!
No clue but there’s another video back in June before Josh left and he referenced it. Said shotgun message was going to be on there. Guess it never happened.
this is just incredible... i just seeing this after being a big fan of norma jean from like 20 years... love this shit.. i remember when i was a kid io bought the coolest norma jean official merchandice tshirt. damn...
Thank you for this. It is really awesome. Seeing the 2003 versions of In Reference to a Sinking Ship (or whatever it is called at this time) and the rest of the set is just brilliant. Very much appreciated and hope you have a great day.
I'm glad you liked it. Wasn't sure if anyone would give a shit about some christian hardcore band from almost twenty years ago, but the show is awesome. And Scottie breaking his guitar right in front of me was pretty memorable. Sorry for the late reply. Thank you and take care.
I'm really glad you like it. At the time, I wasn't even really into them (I was recording the show for a friend) but after this show I understood why my friend liked them so much. They're cool guys, too.Thank you.
I honestly didn't know how great this band was until now. of course I knew of them but never really got into it. It's the most disgusting, bitter sounding, beautiful thing I've ever heard and I love it.
While I admittedly don’t know much about these guys aside from “Memphis Will be Laid to Waste” (which is an awesome song btw), I’ve heard great things about the rest of _Bless the Martyr_ and I’ve seen a couple of their live performances here on RUclips. Love the energy they all have here and the overall Hi-8 look, very nostalgic.
The album has several great tracks that I still listen to even though my interest in the genre has all but died. "I used to hate cellphones..." is my favorite.
@@TonyArzenta Just gave it a listen, that’s another really good one for sure. I know you said you’re not really into metalcore anymore but a lot of Every Time I Die’s stuff is pretty good too imo, especially _Hot Damn!_ which I’d call a near-perfect album. “Ebolarama” is my personal favorite off of that one.
@@cordan305 Haha, I haven't listen to Everytime I Die in quite some time. It's kinda fun to remember these bands from the early 2000's. I'll have to give Hot Damn another listen tomorrow during work.
What’s crazy to me is this footage reminds me of the little home town sweaty shows I used to play in my town. Generally 40 to 50 kids or more. But these dudes packed the house in this show lol. But look where they are today. I got to se em once after they were a well known band and they were still great.
@@shafatalam698 yeah lol. Although I should mention it was more in the early days. The band was still called Luti-Kriss. They would play at a venue called the Solid Rock Cafe (my dad's friend's parents owned it.) They were just a metal band in Georgia at that time lol.
@8:38 I think I hear someone yell, “you lied, you said this was a Dashboard show!” Haha, people always have and always will clown Dashboard Confessional
love finding B sides of this band and early versions like this one here of Pretendeavor....the other version on the Solid State compilations (2005?) is also super crunchy.
i was just getting into the underground music scene in the south back in 2002-03 when i was in high school. its hard to overestimate how big these guys were in that scene. i remember when they came through on tour, it was an event. bedlams in pensacola fl. i wasnt that into screamo at the time, but now i really regret not seeing them. actualy im not even sure if that show was AA...that was one thing that sucked being a minor back then, a lot of these shows happened at bars or clubs, although a lot of times theyd let underage kids in as long as they put those giant black X's in magic marker on each hand. anyway, bless the martyr is still one of the best of the genre.
I cannot recall the fill-in's name, but I think he only did a few shows with them. I had a wide-angle adapter on my hi-8 camera back then, allowing me to keep the whole band in shot. Thanks!
@@jerrodregana it is. I just listened to a podcast today with Scottie Henry (it's when Holy + Gold first started) he said that Brad was in the band for almost two years after Josh left, yet he Brad never recorded on a NJ album.
A little trivia without looking on the internet what was their first name before Norma Jean...ok ok I'll tell ya...Luti-kriss...obviously they had to change their name
These guys played in my buddies garage in the Chicago suburbs maybe a year or so before this. They seemed pretty disappointed to be playing to 15 year olds with a mom offering tang and cookies 😂
@@FreshSqueezedLightningthose are their worst videos they are playing garbage material. Watch their tours from 2003-2006 with Keller harbin in the band. You’re cheating yourself and others otherwise.
When your favorite album is Calculating Infinity and you desperately wanna be Coalesce but you're Christian and you originally named your band Luti-Kriss.
@@thewaterboytheoryobviously they do as you are replying to someone who does and you obviously care that he cares which is why you took the time to reply to him 😂
Never heard of these guys and it took me 1 minute and 30 seconds to become a fan
Shoulda gone to youth group in 2003 homie.
Churches almost figured it out
oh...go check out the The Chariot.
Tiny t shirts and backs to the crowd, I remember these days.
Crazy that not one of these guys is in the band now
I'm not that familiar with Norma Jean, are you saying there are no original members still in the band?
Pretty much the same with haste the day
Their sound is different but they still RULE
They gave it all they got in this band, nothing left to start another band with
@kevinrutkowski3034 not a single one lol. NJ had had A LOT of fucking line up changes since its inception. I don't even think of NJ as a band anymore so much as it is a collective if musicians lol. Corey has been consistent but he's still not the OG vocalist. Either way. They've never made a bad album no matter who the members are or how much the sound changes. Fucking love NJ.
Dude... THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PIECE OF HISTORY THANK YOU SO MUCH!
You're welcome!
It would've been much more incredible had it been with their original singer, Josh Scogin, and not this guy. I saw them twice with this guy and his voice was god awful. I saw then 4 times with Josh and it was epic. Even saw them before they were called Norma Jean, back when they were Luti Kriss and dude...they were insane live.
bruh memphis before josh, mind is fucking blown
@@postalcollapse12 Actually this is after josh left. Thats Matt Tarpey of the band Winter Solstice filling in before they got Corey.
@@DrummerEvan1 was this one of the like 3 shows they played after they kicked Brad out for being horrendous lmfao. I thought they basically just kicked Brad out after the one tour he did and then got Corey
setlist
1. the shotgun message
2. memphis will be laid to waste
3. the entire world is counting on me and they don't even know it
4. in reference to a sinking ship
5. i used to hate cellphones but now i hate car accidents
6. creating something out of nothing, only to destroy it
thank you for this amazing piece of history!
I was fortunate enough to see Norma Jean with Josh at the helm and it was one of the most intense moments of my whole life. Next to Converge, or maybe Drain nowadays, there was no live performance quite like it. Just a full on fucking sonic assault of phenomenal lyrics/vocals, brilliant music, and the energy i cant even really quite describe. What a time to be alive.
Agreed. My girlfriend is like, "how did you listen to this?"
I used to fall asleep to it in early 2000.
@@kevincollins8620 Yea man Peak Norma Jean, Converge, The Locust, and the The Chariot....I saw them all live and my lord was it fucking insanity.
@@mr.martyr8573 Same, glad you're still with us fellow Ancient Scenester
jeromes dream is going hard af since sean leary from loma joined, highly recommend catching them if you get a chance
@@mr.martyr8573 The Locust was one of my favorites live. Converge fantastic as well.
Just a whole crowd of people enjoying the music. Man, I miss these days. Totally agree with the comment that metalcore hit different back then. I’m getting too damn old.
That’s me that got up on stage for bringing a knife to a good fight!! I’ve wanted to see this video for 21 years 😭 so glad I came across this
@@steelsdigital3615 that's awesome.
Blast from the past. Early 2000s metalcore hit different. Absolutely psychotic.
This was my favorite band in 2003. I was in junior high and was lucky enough to see them 2 or 3 times. Anyone else have the black Norma Jean shirt with the two shotguns crossing each other on the front?
I wish I did, that shirt is classic
@@matthewcrescimone6404 that shirt was sick, I wish I still had mine. They’ve got one listed on eBay for $50, lol.
@@mdfmma123 lol I was literally just on eBay looking. I’m just gonna buy one anyway smh
It said "support southern rock" under the guns. Wish I still had it...
They're reprinting this shirt for the upcoming tour
I thank my older brother for getting me into these guys when I was 12. I'm 21 now and they still fucking rock. Much love from Texas
I remember this tour...either this one or one right around this time. They were headlining and Underoath and Dead Poetic were on this tour as well. One of the best nights of my life. I'll never forget that night. Miss those days
I am IN LOVE with how much energy they have!
100% HUNGRY
Absolute spazz
I wish this is what metalcore was now, just 5 dudes that looked like they walked outta their mall jobs into a grungy underground bar, you can hardly understand the lyrics half the time, but the crowd can scream them so loud that it doesn't matter, the singer constantly looks a mixed of exhausted & wired, and the guitarists cannot stand still, the glory days..
Yeah me too now it looks like boy bands. Weird..
Most of the bands i am listening now (including Norma Jean) have the same energy. Ken Mode, Converge, Cancer Bats, Norma Jean, Comeback Kid, Unsane, Whores... just ordinary guys playing heavy music and the entire band loosing their shit on the stage.
Came here for the Norma Jean, stayed for the mewithoutYou. Wish I would have been able to make it to one of these shows back in the day.
Norma Jean is my biggest inspiration ever. Pure energy, raw talent, total expression
Same. And the chariot has been just as influential for me.
This is HISTORY uploaded right here! We don’t have shoes like this anymore. The on stage energy, the crowd participation…..THANK YOU!
ruclips.net/video/ttiYGSWNP-o/видео.htmlsi=vczOJ_5d5tzMnE8V
Right before the scene became "the scene"
Memphis is still to this day THE most hard hitting song 🔥🙌
Wow, I saw them as Luti Kriss, as Norma Jean with Josh and later several times with Cody. But I had no idea there was a singer in between those eras... 🤯
He's in the music video for Memphis will be laid to waste
That weird void between Josh Scogin and Cory Putnam. Great video
I was gonna say this doesn't look like Scogin
Lmao I was like wtf who is that
cory will never be no josh
@@Spocklee Cory transcended Josh. I’ll die on this hill.
@@AndyKoons Certainly live.
My best friends older brother got us into “screamo”. He gave me this CD along with an Atreyu, and A Static Lullaby CD. That was my introduction to the scene and this video totally captures the energy of the shows at the Glass House & Chain Reaction.
He ended up starting a little band called Apple Not Asteroid for awhile too.
Epic times
damn super nostalgic for this comment. first concert I ever took myself to (as in, not with my pops) back in high school was Atreyu, Unearth, Norma Jean at 9:30 club in DC... back in 05.
"Screamo" lmao. Not even close
@@slaythembeforeme *strokes neckbeard* “Uhm, AKKSHUALLYY…”
another time, another place..those were the days
A whole lifetime ago 👊🏻
So you taped Norma Jean instead of mewithoutyou and here we are. Thank you so much!
Mewithoutyou was very late to the venue and I had school the next morning, so I was only able to tape their first song.
Yeah, a lucky coincidence in retrospect! @@TonyArzenta
What an era. Thanks for sharing.
This video really really needs to be protected and sent into the cosmos for a possible intercept by whoever may be out there
2020 Norma Jean looks like they ate 2003 Norma Jean for breakfast. Amazing capture. Thanks for the upload.
Haha, that's great. Thanks, bud.
Norma Jean doesn’t exist anymore it’s literally the handshake murders covering then
@@Aaaaaaaa-ix4rp exactly.
or Eso-Charis, especially since Jeff Hickey is gone and Cory's brother Adam did drums & percussion on the latest album (though he was Norma Jean's auxiliary percussionist in 2006)
maybe that's why they're so bloated haha
These guys kick ass. Wish I would have heard about them YEARS ago 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Bless The Martyr Kiss The Child is easily in the top 10 influential albums for the hardcore/metalcore scene
I saw them twice the last time was 2012 with Stick to your guns the energy was unreal and the pits 😵💫😵
they are still around and putting out quality music/ touring.
It's never too late 👍
This is incredible, such a great band and an awesome album. Wish I was old enough to attend at the time of this recording
This is Amazing, these are my high school years right here. Still know these words! Hah
Love the Volta shirt! Spotted it like a hawk!
Great video!!
This record is such a banger! Too much nostalgia
Pure gold, thanks for sharing. :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for posting! Amazing performance by the Almighty Norma Jean!
Goddamn the OG Norma Jean ! Thanks for the upload, that 1st record really has something special within it.
Not OG. Josh was already gone at this point. That's Brad on vocals, the fill in middle guy who never made it on to an album.
@zaqbraniga8845Dang must’ve been an off day for brad. I think he sounds killer here!
bro this band was so wild first hearing them. still are. nice upload
Brad Norris, vocalist during this blip in time, lives not far from where I live in North AL. He’s also had some other rad bands called The Divine Shakes, Lt. Snakebeard, False Suns (probably more but that’s all I’m aware of). His son also plays in a band called TOWU that’s rad. All worth seeking out and giving a whirl!
Lol nvm this isn’t Brad but it kinda looks like em. Either way! Check out those bands!
These dudes were so f’n epic at this time! Live shows were just nuts!
this is so amazing
No clue but there’s another video back in June before Josh left and he referenced it. Said shotgun message was going to be on there. Guess it never happened.
Wow, this is amazing. Definitely a piece of history here!
I clicked on this while in my car thinking it was acceptable driving music. I was wrong. It got violent immediately.
this is just incredible... i just seeing this after being a big fan of norma jean from like 20 years... love this shit.. i remember when i was a kid io bought the coolest norma jean official merchandice tshirt. damn...
It's comments like this that make me glad I uploaded this show.
@@TonyArzenta really apreciate it dude! love from argentina! keep listening and playing metalcore!
@@TonyArzenta ruclips.net/video/CDzYuADFO8M/видео.html
Thank you for this. It is really awesome. Seeing the 2003 versions of In Reference to a Sinking Ship (or whatever it is called at this time) and the rest of the set is just brilliant. Very much appreciated and hope you have a great day.
I'm glad you liked it. Wasn't sure if anyone would give a shit about some christian hardcore band from almost twenty years ago, but the show is awesome. And Scottie breaking his guitar right in front of me was pretty memorable. Sorry for the late reply. Thank you and take care.
thank you so much for uploading this. norma jean is and will be my favorite band and its sooo awesome to see their beginnings
I'm really glad you like it. At the time, I wasn't even really into them (I was recording the show for a friend) but after this show I understood why my friend liked them so much. They're cool guys, too.Thank you.
From Perú, thank you!!!
I honestly didn't know how great this band was until now. of course I knew of them but never really got into it. It's the most disgusting, bitter sounding, beautiful thing I've ever heard and I love it.
I was only into their first album. It was a steep drop in quality afterward in my opinion.
Even though no one in this vid is a part of it, All Hail is an absolute masterpiece.
Def what their known for!
It's not that deep bruh.
@@StoicDivinity yes it is.
GOLD!!!
Wow, the first MySpace Band! Amazing.
I love that the guitar player next to the camera is wearing a Mars Volta shirt.
Scottie henry!!
I'm 50 and love the shit out of this band.
My daughter's introduced me to Norma Jean ❤❤❤❤ back in the day!!
Very cool, man! Loved this band in high school. I missed a lot of their records but I still like the classics!
Glad to be part of this time and vibe
This same year that singer kicked me in the face in Philadelphia. Best show
What an honor
Damn this is extra rare because this is Brad on vocals. After Josh left and before Cory. This is wild.
Saw the guys back when they were still Ludikris. I’m OG hard core scene. ❄️😄
used to love this band
While I admittedly don’t know much about these guys aside from “Memphis Will be Laid to Waste” (which is an awesome song btw), I’ve heard great things about the rest of _Bless the Martyr_ and I’ve seen a couple of their live performances here on RUclips. Love the energy they all have here and the overall Hi-8 look, very nostalgic.
The album has several great tracks that I still listen to even though my interest in the genre has all but died. "I used to hate cellphones..." is my favorite.
@@TonyArzenta Just gave it a listen, that’s another really good one for sure. I know you said you’re not really into metalcore anymore but a lot of Every Time I Die’s stuff is pretty good too imo, especially _Hot Damn!_ which I’d call a near-perfect album. “Ebolarama” is my personal favorite off of that one.
@@cordan305 Haha, I haven't listen to Everytime I Die in quite some time. It's kinda fun to remember these bands from the early 2000's. I'll have to give Hot Damn another listen tomorrow during work.
They've been my favorite band since I first heard them in 2006.
They are absolutely amazing and they just released new stuff.
Love them!!!
Thank you so much for this man! There's not much live footage with the original line up. Those kids were fucking insane!!
I'm glad you liked it, bud. My left ear is still ringing from this show I'm pretty sure, haha.
@@TonyArzenta lol, I meant the original Line Up, hahahaha! I wrote footage twice.
I hope your ear is better now lol
@@marvinvoorhees I thought scogin was the original singer? That's def not him and I do remember at that time he was not in the band at this point
Yeah, that's Josh Scogin! Who else would it be? Who else convulsed like that on stage? I know now he looks a little fat, hahaha but that's him.
@@marvinvoorhees Dude what? no way thats him. He was stocky back then. I don't remember him being that skinny ever
What’s crazy to me is this footage reminds me of the little home town sweaty shows I used to play in my town. Generally 40 to 50 kids or more. But these dudes packed the house in this show lol. But look where they are today. I got to se em once after they were a well known band and they were still great.
" But look where they are today" none of the OG band members are left. I doubt they are well off.
I saw them the same year in North Carolina with Stretch Armstrong and they went so hard they shut the electricity off briefly in the venue. Epic.
One of the best hard core records of all time
This is so awesome
My dad talks about opening for these guys a lot. Definitely a good band and glad I got to hear josh sing MWBLTW with Mewithoutyou.
your DAD???? 😭
@@shafatalam698 yeah lol. Although I should mention it was more in the early days. The band was still called Luti-Kriss. They would play at a venue called the Solid Rock Cafe (my dad's friend's parents owned it.) They were just a metal band in Georgia at that time lol.
This is awesome
To see young people become old people during the 1st sound corrections. These guys slay it!
Right up there with Dillinger Escape Plan for onstage chaos that matches the music. So damn good!
Seeing them around this time at Tremont Music Hall changed my whole life lmao
This is amazing…thank you for uploading this. You’re the man. ❤
@8:38 I think I hear someone yell, “you lied, you said this was a Dashboard show!” Haha, people always have and always will clown Dashboard Confessional
My first real concert was Dashboard. It was heavier than this. Much heavier. 😂
love finding B sides of this band and early versions like this one here of Pretendeavor....the other version on the Solid State compilations (2005?) is also super crunchy.
Wish it was still on youtube
My first show in high school was Norma Jean eighteen visions throwdown for less than $10
This is sick!!!
the fuckin drummer is spot on bro. I used to rock this album a lot, they were very unique and also crazy heavy for not metal
Incredible band. Saw them when they were Luti-kriss too.
I forgot how good they were .
Good times
Bless the martyr is so good
wish you had more footage of mewithoutyou but regardless thank you for sharing!
i was just getting into the underground music scene in the south back in 2002-03 when i was in high school. its hard to overestimate how big these guys were in that scene. i remember when they came through on tour, it was an event. bedlams in pensacola fl. i wasnt that into screamo at the time, but now i really regret not seeing them. actualy im not even sure if that show was AA...that was one thing that sucked being a minor back then, a lot of these shows happened at bars or clubs, although a lot of times theyd let underage kids in as long as they put those giant black X's in magic marker on each hand.
anyway, bless the martyr is still one of the best of the genre.
Why have I never seen this before
Masterpiece
Scottie falls. 25:25
Yeah, he cracked the neck of his guitar and it sounded awful up until he breaks it.
Definitely pioneers…
They define their genre.
Chariot included of course
who's the fill in vocalist on this set? great quality footage my dude, love old norma jean sets
I cannot recall the fill-in's name, but I think he only did a few shows with them. I had a wide-angle adapter on my hi-8 camera back then, allowing me to keep the whole band in shot. Thanks!
He looks Matt Tarpey
It’s Brad Norris.
@@jerrodregana it is. I just listened to a podcast today with Scottie Henry (it's when Holy + Gold first started) he said that Brad was in the band for almost two years after Josh left, yet he Brad never recorded on a NJ album.
@@staringintotheendless can you link me the podcast?
I always thought the concept of not facing the audience works if the front members are doing it.
I am glad Bloodbather brought this sound back.
A little trivia without looking on the internet what was their first name before Norma Jean...ok ok I'll tell ya...Luti-kriss...obviously they had to change their name
I saw them in 2003 and it was the new lineup of Norma Jean, none....none of these guys were there, I came expecting Norma Jean, and.............
Damn dude. This could wind up on a document one day
My neck hurts just watching this
I can’t watch a band ignore a crowd full of kids there to see them. It hurts my soul
They didn't seem to mind.
It was the "cool" thing to do at the time.
@@StoicDivinity I guess you’re right. I played in bands for years and It was my dream to have something like that. Jean rules tho
Did you take this video? My band opened this show and this footage looks like the footage my buddy took.
I did shoot this video, and it's good to hear from you, bud. It's been too long.
@@TonyArzenta wait...who is this?
@@xadamritterx It's Mike. This is the show I put on VHS for you.
Bet you that fan still has that headstock somewhere
8:09 looks like T-Bird & his gang from The Crow came to the show! FIRE IT UP
Wow, this video pretty much sums of underground metal shows from 2000-2008, minus a softer pit then usual
These guys played in my buddies garage in the Chicago suburbs maybe a year or so before this. They seemed pretty disappointed to be playing to 15 year olds with a mom offering tang and cookies 😂
🖤🖤🤘🤘🤘🤘Yeah soooo cool!!!!
I remember a venue called The Skoolhouse in my hometown of Harrisburg PS. It's hard to tell... But is that where this is?
I think it might be.
And then The Chariot afterward was even crazier. This is awesome
Never got into the chariot...they were just a knock off of what Norma Jean had done...and yes I know Norma's original singer was in the band.
@@allencarey7336 Go watch the Perth and Moscow shows about The Chariot. It’s about the live shows not the music lol
Seeing the chariot years ago and they was epic.
@@FreshSqueezedLightningthose are their worst videos they are playing garbage material. Watch their tours from 2003-2006 with Keller harbin in the band. You’re cheating yourself and others otherwise.
When your favorite album is Calculating Infinity and you desperately wanna be Coalesce but you're Christian and you originally named your band Luti-Kriss.
*and had to change the name bc a more successful rapper had a similar name and thought you might confuse the two.
Nobody care about it.. as long as they deliver good music
BOOO
By the time you made your comment Scogin dipped out bc ppl like you
@@thewaterboytheoryobviously they do as you are replying to someone who does and you obviously care that he cares which is why you took the time to reply to him 😂
i would change all my mosh pits for this one