Another Way to Get Better, Faster in BJJ (Jiu-Jitsu)! Are You Missing Techniques? - Kama Vlog
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This is what I’ve been looking 4. I’ve been training for 2 months and I don’t feel like I’m getting better because everyday there is a new technique. Common sense tells me I need to drill a technique until it’s muscle memory.
I've been training for 5 months and I've experienced the same issue.
I bought a grappling dummy and wrote down all the techniques and combinations we learned in class onto cue cards. Every morning for about twenty minutes I draw random cue cards and practice old techniques. Once I feel like I've learned a technique it goes into a different pile. After learning all the techniques, I reshuffle the deck and overlearn them all. I can honestly say I've learned more jiu-jitsu this passed month of doing this than I have in the other four months combined.
I also do this for university and it works far better than rereading or writing notes.
@@sw0745 Are you still doing the dummy technique? How is working out now? Thinking of getting a dummy.
I have been training BJJ for a month and like it but the only problem I do have with it is learning two new techniques every class (Mon-Fri) and Sat. are a review of everything you learnt through out the week. I would rather review of basics at least once a day while learning a new technique to me that makes more sense especially when you're paying $156.60 Canadian a month. Maybe if I get one of those grappling dummies to practice on at home that might work but I shouldn't have to pay that much money for a dummy when already paying so much for classes.
@@sw0745That's great idea but a person has to know how to also draw in order to keep track of the techniques don't they? And not everyone knows how to draw.
The way Gracie Barra Curriculum is broken down is by 16 Weeks. Each week there are positions from either top or bottom. So, for example it's week 12 this week, and it's Back Control/Submission. If I go on vacation somewhere in the world that has another Gracie Barra I will learn the same position. It will be a little different option on Back Control/Submission on what the Professor will show. A certified Gracie Barra school will run this same technique all week until Sunday, and the following week it will be Week 13. Professor at my school doesn't only just look at attendance when you are blue belt and above. They actually see if you are improving as a Jiu-Jitsu person and a human being for the better.
What are the 16 weeks?
@@TotalMartialArtsCenterInc it is GB Curriculum of positions and techniques. After the 16 weeks is done it resets back to week 1.
So I’m heavily contemplating going to a Gracie barra academy because I’ve seen on their website that they have beginner/ fundamental classes and I’m not a fan of how the majority of BJJ schools teach ( like in the video above ) I feel like because I have so much to take in at my current academy at once ,it’s harder to grasp . Would you recommend switching to a Gracie Barra school?
@@1989cadiman it all depends on what you are looking for, and of course the instructor. I was at a GB school for about 6.5 years. Are you looking for Self-Defense or Sport type of Jiu-jitsu.
The fundamental program has basic Self-Defense techniques from stand up to some ground technique. After that, the advanced and black belt program cater more to sport Jiu-jitsu techniques.
You can only wear GB apparel and their GIs are around $180, $60 Rasguards generally.
Their tuition prices vary from school to school. Price where I am at can range from $140-$180. In my opinion if I am not training with Master Rickson or a gracie thats a deep pocket to swallow a month for one individual. A family of 3 would pay close to $500 a month.
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@@1989cadiman It also depends what school you actually go to, every gym has its on culture. I'm a part of a gracie barra affiliate but we dont HAVE to wear gracie barra gis etc
When I became a professional firefighter in Niagara Falls, NY, I also began my college career. Over The next 20 years, I earned a BS, and Masters in Education, and a Law Degree. I've been on the mat since high school (I'm 60 now). Having stumbled on this approach for the first time as it applies to BJJ, I cannot exaggerate how much I agree with this concept of learning. It works in BJJ, wrestling, golf, and in learning arithmetic. A Jiu jitsu school is essentially the equivalent of a "one room school house". Student are at different levels, have different goals and aptitudes. This emphasis of "mastery" over "advancement is the most effective for producing results.
Yep, I totally agree with this method. The problem is most people like the excitement of rolling and don’t have the patience to learn enough techniques in order for rolling to be beneficial at the beginning of their BJJ journey.
We just wanted to say that you are one of the most inspirational sources on RUclips! Thank you for sharing so much knowledge and experience with the world! Your hypotheses regarding progression in BJJ is phenomenal!
Thank you for the kind words.
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Yes! Having a curriculum is so helpful to beginners. Knowing what your going to do before class, or before the next class, or what you missed, helps to understand what your supposed to learn. I have teammates at my academy who, like me, left their old schools because there was no rhyme or reason to the training. You just basically did whatever the coach or professor felt like doing. It was always lacking in the fundamentals. Where I’m at now, I can see what I’m going to be doing tomorrow, next week, next month, and we always touch on what we just learned. Great for us old guys and newbies.
Your methodology of linear progression is the most efficient way to learn.
I used that method to learn a foreign language, specifically, vocabulary. I learnt precisely 2,000+ words with 95 per cent accuracy in about six months.
+ excluding all verb conjugations, and noun declensions.
dang. i gotta use that to learn a language, too...
@@JiujitsuFIIT Organise vocabulary in rows of 100 words (0-100). Cover the answers. Test your recollection of these words regularly and make a note of how many you get right.
At first you will get 40 per cent of the words correct. Repeat as many times to get virtually all words correct.
Once you have 90+ per cent correct in these 100 words, move to the next set of 100 words (101-200).
Now, test yourself from 0-200 words. Again, your accuracy will be terrible. Over time you will again get to near perfect recall. Move to next set of 100 words.
No bullshit method to learn 2,000 words which I did to pass my Russian exam. Because I am a nerd, I used a spreadsheet to analyse my accuracy. Each time I learnt a new set of 100 words, the testing would take longer.
On the night before my exam I did a final test of all words 0-2000 and I got about 99 per cent accuracy, so I knew I'd pass the exam.
Makes sense. My school never really had a curriculum but we were part of Rickson's Jiu-jitsu association for years and used to test for our belts. My instructor got his black from Rickson. I got a blue belt from Chris Saunders in 99'.
David Kama was the first Black belt I ever rolled with. He was maybe 165lbs and I was probably 285lbs at the time. I remember being totally in awe at how strong he felt (I was a white belt). He arm bared me multiple times. He taught us a few escapes and he told me something about leg lock defense that has stuck with me for 20 years. "Control the middle".
I trained with him maybe twice, hell of an instructor and a nice guy.
The start of the video is a prime example of how our psych works. There can be thousands of likes, but those 6 dislikes is what stands out to you. Yep, spot on. You are confirmed a human.
Don’t stress out about the dislikes. I think there are people who surf RUclips all day and just dislike videos because they are negative human beings who enjoy bringing negativity into others’ lives. It’s not about you.
Glad to see you agree with my method of teaching. This way ensures the art passes, generation to generation, with integrity and purity! OSU!
Your instruction phenomenal I really appreciate all the value you bring to this channel And the Jiu Jitsu community thank you it’s an Incredible honor to listen to your videos
Outstanding, now I feel torn, being at a school with no apparent curriculum.
I feel this. I'd be more successful if there was a set of semi-solid goals for each level.
My school had me drill lapel chokes my 1st week 😭
1st class after drills "Ok go roll!" Me: "But...but..."
I started at an association that had the scattergun approach to teaching and thought that was normal, I now have my own academy and have affiliated with a curriculum-based affiliate and it is the best thing I have ever done. Well worth finding a curriculum-based academy in my opinion. I am completely relearning everything along with my students.
Does no one know how to think for themselves and direct their own development anymore? You shouldn't have to be spoon fed everything, especially in an era with free knowledge at the touch of a button. Early curriculums can be beneficial (if they're not TOO specific) but at some point you need to learn to think for yourself and be creative.
That's how I memorize shit for school. Reiteration, stacked.
Debating to dislike or not just to get Ryan to produce another video about this
😂
You’re killing me.
Never been aa part of a jiu jitsu academy. But this brings me back to when i was trying to learn to front roll for 1hr30min non stop, and then another time trying to do a front handspring (still can't do it, and it's a wrestling thing but i digress)...
To just last week when practicing my BJJ warmups, I was hit with a revelation of how to do the proper technique when performing a knee slide (to pass guard from a standing position)..
The simplest things really do take such a long time to learn. II surely hacen't done that warmup 500 times though. I'm inspired to do so now.
I've been learning on my own, and when i joined the army i really had little time to practice, even though i did as much as i had the energy and time to... Nonetheless, I can't wait to join the club and get more skilled!
For anyone wondering, my issue with the knee slide: It's particularly when warming up, though it could probably lead to telegraphing, when in competition,
when you execute the move, you take a step forward, change levels, and slice your knee until your hip reaches the ground.
Return and repeat.
Well for me, the step forward always felt so awkwar and forced! It's cause I didn't have the basics of self defense in general down. I didn't know where to rest my weight on my feet, I didn't know how to properly move, Itt wasn't until learning another martial art that i was able to implement it into my BJJ.
It's a small detail but the devil is in the details.
Hi Ryan ... first of all thank you very much for your tots ...
my name is José Leite I am 41 yrs old and I just started the BJJ 3 month ago here in Maryland Alliance academy
And this strategy will help me to be strong 💪 in each foundation before I got to the Blue Belt curriculum . Yes I do have the curriculum from the academy already and I am going to start focus...
We don't have a curriculum and our school is competition orientated. I guess we are judged on how good we do in competition and how often we turn up. We do open mats where higher belts will help out lower belts (along with our instructor ). Drilling is essential in these sessions. I'm a purple belt and didn't get it til I was getting gold in my weight and open class and felt I was more than competent at that level. I do feel that teaching lower belts makes you break down your own technique to its fundamentals and helps you and them learn more. I live in Ireland, we have one black belt who was a purple belt himself first day I turned up as a white belt and we have become one of the top bjj competition teams in our region. I appreciate your videos and maybe we should look into a more structured 'road map ' to help bring those white belts to a higher level of competency quicker.
Thank you sir!
Thank you for all you do Ryan :)
I'm a pretty new white belt (3.5 weeks). I respect the way you have broken it down and I see the benefit......i know that new belts are often clumsy and can be risky for injury....but I still role every time I go to class at the end. I suck....im getting comfortable with sucking but live rolling has helped me sooooooooo much. Things, in tiny ways, click more and more each timenI do. Although..... i will say, I don't roll with everyone. My coaches are very concious of who I train with whether its drilling or rolling and everyone in my gym is of the mindset of not smashing the new person and super patient with me. I've heard stories about other gyms that are highly competitive and even where color belts sometimes smash new people. I am so gratefull for amazing coaches and teammates.
Absolutely brilliant!!!
This is precisely why we need Kama Jiujitsu in Houston, Tx!
Then let’s you, Ray, and KJJ make it happen!
Im about to give you a thumps down, just to get another technique >:D
LMAO!
Good, practical thinking, though. ;-)
We don't have a set curriculum so I got a Grappling dummy, put a Gi on it and studied on my own during the 2020 lockdown. I broke it down by the pins; mount, side control, north/south, technical mount and S mount etc. Tighten up the positions, pressure concepts etc. and then drill the submissions both the Gi version and the No Gi version. I've trained for a few years, still a white belt but I've learned and retained much more that past year in lockdown than the previous years. Of course, I don't get to train defense and escapes like in a real roll but I get to expand & tighten up my arsenal while also understanding them more internally and the ability to recognize their openings. I'm gonna buy a Gi for my girlfriend so we can train guard passing/retention, escapes, take downs and so forth. Drilling shrimps, hip escapes, sit outs, bridging, granby rolls also helps.
WOW!!!!! That’s just straight up amazing and make so much more sense. Well described.
This is great, but I think most people probably have a circular/random school. How can we take our learning into our own hands while still attending said school. I ask for myself and others, of course. Is it as simple as keeping track of your own linear curriculum and using "rolling time" to train within the confines of your timeline?
For example, one might ask their rolling partner to mount them and start there every day until they've done this for 50 rolls.
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
So...... Do trap and roll, but focus and timing, precision, and relaxation. Do seven reps, then add a guard pass, do them together seven times. Add another technique, do another seven....... After a hour, you will have done a ton of work. Stick with basics, focusing on timing and feeling the movement. Proper angles..... etc.
pay for private classes, go to seminars, watch videos, etc...and if your school has a curriculum review it over and over, keep track of it, and remember to look at the big picture which is that what you have learned complements other techniques and you can reverse the techniques...I really don't think about getting a belt color...I can beat the crap out of a BJJ black belt with what I already know of the martial arts...
Don’t need to know a lot to beat a BB. Just need to be really good at a few “need to know” concepts.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Any way we can get an idea or even list about these core concepts/techniques we can be focusing on as we work through our academy's circular or random curriculum? Do you already have a video on this? My kids, wife, and I train at an academy that feels like this (in their defense there may be a method to the madness I don't see yet). I have used this pandemic lockdown to work through the Gracie Combatives series to build a better foundation, as our academy generally throws white belts in the gen pop class after briefly introducing basic positioning. Thanks for all you do!
Don’t worry about the thumbs down. I’m confident that there are people out there who dislike videos simply because they are unhappy human beings who wish to spread unhappiness. I would consider potentially addressing any negative comment that has substance. Otherwise, just ignore the trolls.
fantastic content, i immediately subscribed!!
thanks a bunch :)
Love your videos
I jus started jiu jitsu and we cant start rolling till our 1st stripe, which is 30 class sessions. Makes a lot of sense why they structure it that way tho. Love the video and love jiu jitsu.
I totally agree with this concept. I truly can't wait till I get the opportunity to visit your gym in TX. I love your videos and your outlook on the art.
Come by anytime.
Wow it all made sense think I have a different view on how to approach training and what I need to do.Thank you for that
This is good stuff!!!
Great channel and content always. Thank you! I'm having trouble visualizing how this is actually accomplished without 10 hour long classes by lessons 20ish plus. I'm exaggerating, of course but how do you review even 5 plus lessons and teach the new one in even a 2 hour class? Group or private. All that comes to mind so far is that your students work amazingly proficient together and the lessons aren't chalk full of details (which is tough to believe because I've been purchasing Henry Akins material for years now). Only adding that I am a new JJ black belt so you have an idea of where I'm at with my questioning.
Japanese jiu jitsu is trash
This teaching t Taught our cross most martial arts
Linear or curriculum is good teaching if you don't have a partner to do drills with. Drills are like homework were the move you learned you go home and practice that same move with your partner 1000 or more times so it becomes automatic muscle memory. That's why you don't even need to pay or go to an academy if you have a partner and RUclips or jujitsu videos
Good Afternoon, Professor. First, I want to say that I am a huge fan of your videos. They help a lot. Thank you so much for your input.
Also, I have a question regarding training progression. As you mentioned the linear approach and the possibility of skipping days; outside of private lessons would online modules assist significantly in your progression?
I did a video answering your great question in great detail. It will post to our Patreon Channel under the “Black Belt” level in the next week.
@@KamaJiuJitsu, wonderful! Thank you, Professor! I look forward to seeing it.
Those who give thumbs down are just losers who don’t train in BJJ. Just trolls, don’t take it to heart. It doesn’t mean a damn thing.
Just got my blue belt after two year of trainings. My plan is to take a concept a week and work it for that week also to break down the principles behind that concept and drill it
How long are the classes in lesson 10,11,12 etc.? It's sound like an excellent idea.
I think this style of learning would be best for me. The school I was at during my first 4 years I got to see the same lessons over and over. School I been at the past two years I feel is very random. Different styles and I see it works for some people and I do miss seeing the same moves all the time.
There is always gonna be those girls that thumbs down everything cause they think its cool or funny, but never say why they did in the comments
1,2,3. 1,2,3,4,5,6. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9. 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12.
Lots of review and reps, with a curriculum designed as building blocks one after another. I agree Ryan, and i think private lessons are worth the investment..... my wife says in broken English "two review, one new...." and she is right.
Hello Jeremy. How do you split this on a week-to-week basis?
@@gensunasumus101 Sunday. 1. Monday. 2. Tuesday. 3. Weds. 1. Sunday. 2. Monday. 3. Tuesday. 4. Weds. 5. Etc.
I feel like you were talking to me because I'm in a similar situation where I feel like I'm learning a bunch of random things with no real direction or curriculum. I can only afford to make it to class once a week, so with this calculation I have a guide now to when I could POSSIBLY get my blue belt. Also, what things can I do to learn outside of class so I can keep up with everyone? Is there a book or something I could read so I can keep up?
"I feel like you were talking to me because I'm in a similar situation where I feel like I'm learning a bunch of random things with no real direction or curriculum". I feel your pain, buddy. That's totally may case. I came from Judô, and at least at my old gym, there were a set of moves that you were taught to every belt. You had to learn and dominate those tecnics before you progress. It was boring at first, but, looking back, it helped a lot.
Wow. Your white board pen has a magnet.
that's how we roll here!
@@KamaJiuJitsu haha. By the way, i like your video. I'm from malaysia and a former muaythai fighter. I quit at age 28 because of lower back injury. Now i train bjj. And it change my life.
I love Muay Thai, too!
Ain’t gonna do it...but I love it!
This is awesome. Mr. Kama, could you do a video next time about essential warm ups and cool downs what every BJJ dojo must follow before practicing the techniques and after the session is done?
We have one of our warmup routines on the Kama Jiu-Jitsu Patreon Channel.
www.patreon.com/posts/kjj-black-belt-24819201?cid=20031143
@@KamaJiuJitsu Thank you very much for your feedback Mr. Kama!
I’ve read that a blue belt is someone who can defend themselves against an untrained attacker. I’m been training 10 months and have 1 stripe on my white belt. The academy I train at just had a new person join who is my same size and rolling with him was like rolling with a child. I still have 2 years before I can get a blue belt, belts are meaningless
In depth presentation on how to get better at BJJ.T
Thanks,
I totally get what you are saying and can not disagree with it at all. Not even on a BJJ level, it just makes sense from any skill you would want to learn.
My issue is the practicality of it. Some of us live in more remote places, places with smaller populations, etc. Finding a place with a BJJ black belt can be difficult enough, but to be 'picky' is just not a luxury that some (actually, I would guess most) of us have.
Also from the other side I don't even get how a school can do this. Honestly, if someone can edjumicate me, I would appreciate it. Three people show up on Monday: how can they teach me lesson 1 while teaching Joe lesson 12 and teaching Paul lesson 4? At first I thought the answer was "you just start at 1 every class"...but then they teach 12 (in my example) techniques every class? And what do I do while Paul and Joe are working on their advanced stuff? I honestly don't get how this would work in a real world class setting.
It can be done.
I say that the best education is self taught. Being as independent as possible.. what I mean is finding ways to educate yourself on your own, at your own time. For example, my son would do jiu jitsu and he’d be watching a ton of videos over and over at home on RUclips and then also practice what he’d learn while rolling or whatever at the gym.
So that way you can learn 2-3 times faster than the rest who are only dependent on learning from/at their gym/instructor.
I’ve been doing this for a long time. And while I agree that YT/online content is really valuable, my experience has been that a skilled instructor can get a student “up to speed” far faster, and to a higher skill level, than the same person self-learning.
But that may be just me.
Kama Jiu-Jitsu I agree. Especially if you have private lessons like you mentioned.
I guess what I was trying to say is that it’s better to incorporate both. The issue is that most people depend too much on their instructors for their learning efficiency and learning speed. But if you learn from your instructor and then also learn on your own, you’ll learn twice as fast or more.
A good example would be Ribeiro (I believe it was saulo) who got his black belt in 4 years while going to law school. What he would do is study it from Bjj books almost every day while on the bus going to and from law school. By doing so, he was able to accelerate his learning to a much faster pace than if he’d simply depend on learning only at the academy.
But I like what you talked about also in your video. That’s good stuff.
Great vid - only point I would make is once your rolling aren't beginners being continuously put into bad positions and having to survive/defend/escape over and over again (repetition)???? Isn't this reinforcing under stressful (full resistance) conditions the fundamentals ????
Definitely agree with drilling at various resistance, focused positional training but full rolling allows previous lessons to be re-tested under stress over and over again.
To quote John Danaher
"To really know a given move one needs to learn not just the basic movements, but be able to perform them on an opponent who is resisting as hard as he can. This comes not from a book, but from time spent on the mat in hard training. A true sense of your level of development is had by training and competing with other practitioners and drawing comparisons with your own game.”
Yep show up to every class
We don't have a curriculum from what I can tell. We are a bit old school with lots of focus on sparring. It also seems that people are promoted based roughly on how often they turn up and on duration. This is also does not seem an exact science and seems to be more based on a feel.
I am not a great fan of this approach but I do like the focus on sparring. At the end of the day the stuff has to work in a realistic scenario (sparring). I also think our drilling is unrealistic. Its just practicing the technique with little resistance. It does teach us the concept but in terms of application I am not sure what use it is. I would prefer that the drilling be based on practicing and understanding the technique but then drilling it with real resistance over and over again.
Successful Internet Psychologist ideally you would want to drill with increasing resistance. The first times to learn the movements and make them muscle memory and then learning the finer points of how to handle resistance, eventually this process would go to landing the move in live rolling
BJJ channels are a dime a dozen, but this one is a level above. I've been training for more than 10 years and have no desire to just see a whole bunch of different random techniques (often badly). Listening to this guy discuss progress, philosophy, etc. is enlightening.
Ok, you’re obviously NOT GM Rickson...
But thank you for the compliments.
Perfectly said and demonstrated. I'm not in a structured school so i do what i can with the info given but it feels like I'm paying for lessons i can get from RUclips for free versus if i had a linear school
youtube has its uses, if you have no other option.
but then again, it can distract, as well.
Love your stuff Professor. Great explanations and points of view -- thank you for that!
Now with the virus and not seeing anyone in three months and counting (June 2020) I feel like I have to almost start from ground zero when sometime get back on the mats - been training about 2 years started when I was 67
Practice practice
I have watched this 3x over past year lol shoutout to Miguel torrest out of Hobart INdiana ... NO specific curriculum but hell sometimes we will spend a week on one technique.. i guess we could be more of a Linear kinda learning
I’m in a gym that appears to teach in the circular method, in that the advice I have gotten to get better is just to come as often as I can,in the first 8 sessions I was taught guard passes, sweeps, take downs, submissions, some different grips and grip breaks ect. No specific defence other then assuming that knowing offence will help me understand defence, if this is the circular method and I’m brand new, I’m limited in where to go in my city as this seems to be the best BJJ facility in the city, if I’m here for the long haul out of necessity, what would you recommend I do to grow properly in light of being taught through a circular method? I in no way am cutting this gym down, it appears to be full of killers! Thanks for any time you spend responding to my question.
we actually have people that travel to our Dallas, TX facility to do 1-on-1 "intense dives" into learning our system the way we teach it. we never even offered it as an option until people began asking for it.
sweet option, not realistic right now,
some practical options i came up with were
taking notes after classes for my review and retention
discussing this with the head instructor and seeing if he would be willing to set up some one on one training with an instructor to run through the basics in a linear fashion if i can afford it.
any other thoughts that i could employ to best learn in a gym that teaches white belts in a circular method?
🤔
Other than traveling to a gym of your choice, I’m not sure what other options you might have.
Thank you for the video! I'm not sure I agree with the comments on rolling restriction up to Blue belt status. Lessons and drills are nice, but Rolling is worlds apart from controlled and compliant drilling scenarios. The experience of color belts attempting to murder you on the mat is essential tempering and it develops fight IQ and the ability to keep your mind (and your lessons) on-line while you're gassed and overpowered. Further, colored belts understand that white belts are puppies with sharp teeth, and they will not hurt you. Your thoughts?
i think you're wrong, based on my experience.
but to each his own.
Understood and thanks for responding. Just sharing of perspectives... Keep up the videos, they are awesome! Its very helpful to hear your perspectives, experience and philosophy!
Hey teacher 🙏🏽, do you have a list of moves or a curriculum that I can follow using this method?
I’m a white belt and I would like to take the training into my own hands by either showing up earlier or staying later to drill moves.
I’d like to learn the first skill, drill it until I know it, then move onto the second skill and follow the method you laid out in this video.
here you go. register either for Brown Belt or Black Belt level. www.patreon.com/kamajiujitsu
What can I do to get better since my trainers teach randomly.
Try this yet? www.kamajiujitsu.com/memberships/
6 people were expecting to order an online pill to get better
Professor please share your thoughts on maximizing learning if you do take a bundle of private lessons!
So, do you outline the WB course you teach on Patreon?
Hey Ryan I’m very new at jiu jitsu and I’m at Phil Migliarese’s school here in philly. Since I’m only on my second week what are some things I can do to practice at home by myself?
Who'd give a thumbs down? This is true for anything. Practice until perfection.
I train @ KOA Stafford BJJ, and have been for the last 5 months. I haven’t seen much progression in my skill; however, other people have. They don’t have a beginners class, just a new “skill” every month. (Such as half guard, guard, mount, etc). Do you think this is an environment/system someone can progress in? I am 17 years old and a white belt who is going up against grown men, so this could have an impact. I just feel I should be learning escapes and survival BEFORE submissions.
It could work; “skill for the day” < “skill for the week” < “skill for the month” IMHO, if that’s how one likes to do it.
Gotta be disciplined, though.
These questions might have been answered before but how old are you? How long have you been training? Do you still roll? And and any advice for someone in it for the long haul?
50, 30yrs, yes, just don’t stop showing up for class and trying to improve 1% every single day.
My instructor says he does both time and skill, so you have to meet a certain time requirement before you can get considered for the promotion, and then it's all about your skill
Say that you due to family (or other) reasons can't attend more than 1-2 classes / week and your in a school really don't seem to follow a set Curriculum - can you do something on your own to improve your game? Like set a certain few techniques to use in rolling to advance using these - or do you need a instructor/private classes to advance?
Thanks for sharing your insight and deep understanding!
Buy mats and find a buddy.
Professor, can you list a curriculum in the fundamentals that all white belts should hv down pack before moving onto blue belt
We have our list.
Others have theirs.
Your professor probably has his, as well.
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Wish there was a Kama Jiu Jitsu in the St Louis area.
Only one thumbs down this time! Great job!
I actually got a thumbs down?!
Sheesh.
@@KamaJiuJitsu You know you just can't please everyone. There are trolls everywhere. Keep doing what you're doing. Great stuff!
excellent!
I Like this way of learning.. I went to a BJJ school & the 1st day the teacher makes me ROLL with an uncontrolled idiot with a blue belt.... The teaching was scattered no system I was 60 at the time so I never went back.... I've been a Professional drummer since 1972 There is a System to teaching drums ...1st you learn letter a then b then c don't go to d if you don't know c.... I went to about 5 BJJ schools here in Montreal All Pure BULLSHIT... I don't know BJJ but I'm old enough to know if its a good school... so I finally found TRISTAR ( Feras Zahabi) Same place where George st, Pierre trains then covid hit....... I was in Cuba for a year & trained in Boxing , they spar Very Gentle no SMASHING ... A Beginner Should not be Smashed by idiots cause they WILL Quit.... The process so be very Slowly....
Your experience is (sadly) typical.
Thank you for sharing
I live in AZ and I’m almost at the point of just wanting to move to TX to train at Kama. I’ve had multiple conversations with instructors in my area that don’t seem to know the difference between sportive/self defense Jiu-jitsu and say “it’s the same thing”, or say they have a “curriculum” but actually don’t or have no idea what I mean when I ask if they take a circular vs. linear approach to their instruction. Is there anywhere to go to find a school that teaches a curriculum based, linear approach to teaching Gracie self defense Jiu-jitsu short of going to one school at a time and auditing their classes?
1001 Cross Timbers Rd
Flower Mound, TX 75028
Come on by.
I think an effective way to get good fast is to use a grappling dummy. Not everyone has the desire or discipline to use them but the grapplers who have used them said how much of a difference they made with progressing in rolling in a much shorter period of time. It could take a really long time to drill just one technique 500-1000 times unless if the practitioner lives in the gym and a dummy is the best way to get the reps in.
Meh.
As Bruce Lee once said, “Boards don’t fight back.”
Neither do grappling dummies.
@@KamaJiuJitsu That's true, but Bruce Lee did a lot of solo training. Grappling dummies don't fight back but neither does the air when doing solo moves like shrimping and bridging. Punching bags also don't fight back, and neither do live partners when it's just drilling and not rolling.
Rolling is a must but as you know the vast majority of practitioners don't increase their skills by just rolling and not everyone can take too many private lessons or have partners they can do unlimited amount of drilling with in class or outside. We have to work with what we have. Still much respect and great content as always.
All true!
Asking respectfully. What's your understanding and of skill acquisition science and perceptual motor-learning?
I'm not particularly for or against having a curriculum. It has pros and cons. Good case can be made for both.
I think the case to be made against is providing autonomy, creativity and motivation for the learner. Whatever you focus on you're missing everything else right. Some learners do well with structure. Some without.
Cheers.
If you have no curriculum to learn off of, what exactly are you learning?
If you don’t have a methodology to instill said curriculum, then it’s all random and subject to chance. SOME may thrive in a random, non-curriculum setup. MOST will succeed when you have a curriculum AND a methodology for teaching the curriculum.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Thanks for the reply. I am not here to mud sling.
First off.. "What exactly are you learning?". That's a tough question. Learning is hard to measure. I care about what shows up on the mats. Not if someone can explain and understand a move or technique. I've been studying and reading about motor learning and skill acquisition for years and I don't pretend to know how we can fully optimize practice transfer. What I have learned is the body will work it out much faster when a coach gets out of the way. Whether a strict Curriculum or random. There is always an opportunity cost. Focus on one thing you neglect all the rest.
I just see how a curriculum can be a way to try and impose order on a sport that is ultimately chaotic and wildly dynamic. I also understand it can rob the learners of autonomy and creativity that I believe are crucial for motivational drive and sustained engagement.
Anyway, I have another question. What is the end goal of a curriculum? To deliver and instill a comprehensive understanding of each position and technique in BJJ? That is a lofty goal.
Again, I'm a safe distance from optimizing practice for learning and transfer. But the traditional/typical linear approach adopted by most BJJ (Not Saying Your gym - I don't know enough), isn't very effective.
As the great motor-learning sports scientist Frans Bosch likes to quip. "The body cares remarkably little about what the coach has to say".
Anyway, always happy to share and debate ideas. RUclips comment sections are rarely a good format for that though!
Thanks again and all the best. I was just respectfully disagreeing.
Disagreements are good for building! Keep it up!
I understand the models and I understand the schools wanting to make cash with private lessons. My opinion is all school should post the curriculum and expectations. Jiu Jitsu is one of these arts that is so subjective including the curriculum. So all the schools should put up their Curriculum or shut up... Including your school. What makes a blue belt at your school? What makes a purple belt? Until we pull the subjectivity out...then belts don't mean much. It's an estimate and you will have a wide range in each belt category.
Our students know what’s expected of them. Ask your instructor to post his own curriculum for you.
As far as the private sessions, and “wanting to make cash,” it’s MUCH easier to make that “cash” teaching group classes since instructors have a MUCH higher probability of sustaining injuries teaching privates vs group classes. Group classes are also MUCH more lucrative financially, as well.
Just saying.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I have that information. The point I am getting at is that no solid standard exists. Some books and few online sites such as the Gracies. Now per your post most school hold that close to there chest and as their own. IE TRADE SECRET and your response shows my point exactly. You are always willing to prove me wrong and post your standards. Point me to a universal authority on what makes a blue belt, a purple belt, Brown Belt, Black belt. I have never seen one. I just feel in general this Jiu Jitsu standards are all over the place. To be fair it is an art in the sense that your Jiu Jitsu and journey is infused with a part of you and how you think and move. As far as private lessons go...it does help make profits and no you could not survive on private lessons alone. Putting the two together helps the school in general and I have no issue with that. Just be straight about it.
Each school has their own standards because “Jiu-Jitsu” is overly decentralized. A blue belt at one school is different that at another. Add in to the mix, that most instructors have NO CURRICULUM, and you have today’s Jiu-Jitsu.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Yes, I couldn't agree more and appreciate the honest response. Very unique Martial art and some of the stuff is hard to measure which doesn't help in matter.
a curriculum is important...I agree...the belt color is not...think about learning backwards...from black belt techniques to white belt techniques...that makes more sense to me if it's taught with detail...given the preacticioner a some average level of psychomotor control and is not too awkward...I would prefer a school that teaches without uniform and without belts but teaches the complicated stuff and works it's way back
I get what you are saying, but like many other in the comments I am unclear as to how you will 'review' lesson 1 500 times by the time you are at lesson 50, assuming the lessons are an hour long. I get the idea of maybe reviewing the last couple of classes just as a refresher but it seems like once you learn a 'fundamental' or basic technique, you practice it and then it gets incorporated in the more advanced lessons. My dojo seemed to have a structure to the teaching, though I didn't ask particularly what it was since I was just starting out anyway. I felt like the fundamentals were always re-iterated and drilled, either just by themselves or as part of a more complicated attack/defense that had the fundamental movements/techniques that were a part of it.
The best!!
Another good one
Good stuff here
I completely subscribe to this approach but I’m struggling to implement it. There are 2 white belt classes a week and I do 1 mixed level and 1 open mat. However, as a student (white belt) how am I supposed to control what I’m training/repeating?
Keep a list of what you're taught and use the open mat time to drill, drill, drill. Most martial arts schools don't have effective lesson plans for skills acquisition, so this is one way to get around it.
40 more classes and I'll be at 250 that doesn't mean I'll get promoted to blue, it means I dumped a ton of money into training, GI's, rash guards ect. I've been training for 16 months so far, if the technique isn't embedded into my auto response system from drilling and drilling and drilling the same thing over and over I won't remember it. If we drill it 2 reps and partner 2 reps a few times back and forth it doesn't stick because it's not consistent drilling, I would like there to be more room for play and less criticism, if someone interrupts to criticize while trying to learn technique.. everything that I was focused on is totally lost. I probably get criticized more than I'm allowed to use creative flow, makes it not fun and I will skip out on classes. In the middle of a roll the partner will stop me and say "oh you should do this" so I don't actually get to try what I was going for because they stop me mid roll, it's frustrating
From first hand experience, schools like Gracie Barra throw techniques at you willy nilly with no real connection to each other or logical progression. It's all about attacks and very little conceptual knowledge. They leave it up to each student to work out how to connect these random techniques. Their weekly curriculum is basically useless.
They have little to no understanding of the 4 foundational principles/concepts we learn from day 1, which is a reflection on their focus of learning tons of attacks and scoring points to win medals.
After I switched over, I finally understand what was being thrown at me before was sub par and what I'm learning now is the real Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. A linear curriculum that actually allowed me to learn concepts and a strong defensive game initially has made me far more confident that I can survive and attack as well.
Thank you professor and Kama Jiu-Jitsu.
3:33 ...you can't stress enough the importance of attendance to get good I understand but in the martial arts you can get good real quick in a very short time...you don't have to go to class all 7 days of the week! 2-3 days is enough and people have other things to do...if you think too much on the classes you don't attend and get all worried you are missing the point of the martial arts which is that learning what you learned is actually a part of what you did not see of the martial art universe because you were not there ...you are learning the art and with time you effortlessly pair apples with apples...teach your students a fast track training of 250 hours chunked in 1 month reviewing everything so that they can learn it quickly and really fast!!!that would be something like training for 12 hours for 20 days or 6 hours 40 days more or less...I would pay more for something like that until I get real good...I don't mind the belt color
Kama Jiu-Jitsu
what is the difference between subs, reversals, sweeps, and escapes can you make a simplifying video about it
All that kind of stuff is on Dave Kama’s Patreon Channel
www.patreon.com/posts/kjj-black-belt-24819201?cid=20031143
I wish my teacher would take this model and implement it at our gym. I dearly miss that curriculum.
By the way, what's the curriculum at Kama JJ?
same as GM Rickson's curriculum.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I'm sorry to bother you again, but I researched Rickson's curriculum to no avail. Can you point me where can find it? Thanks in advance!
hmm... our stuff is all on Patreon. link in the notes section.
@@KamaJiuJitsu Thank you!
im sorry i must hae missed it how many times are you reviewing each lesson? i cant imagine a class where you are reviewing more than a few techniques...
Exactly what I thought as well. At lesson 47, are they going to review the previous 46 techniques?
not usually. once you have a concept "down pat," no need to run through it EVERY class going forward, although it won't hurt. do as many as you want, just make sure it's perfect in execution before going to a new one. it's not uncommon to run through up to 10 in a session.
but you wouldn't believe how many concepts you can run through in a session, if you have them down pat.
there are a LOT more nuances in running through our curriculum, but i'm just getting you started here.
@@KamaJiuJitsu wow! thanks for sharing i greatly appreciate it. im isolated in central pa. currently a brown belt. im attempting to put together a curriculum for my students however up to ths point ive done the old school method of teaching disconnected techniques. i want to spread the art in this isolated locale and having a good curriculum would greatly help. i apprecate your videos and look forward to learning more. thank you!
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You must not know me....
I've had a good start with bjj and being in the regular classes it's usually a different basic everytime. The linear system you demonstrated however seems like it would work wonders to get the most fundamental techniques down pat. So what would be a good way to make sure I'm keeping track of the techniques I learn in a linear fashion if I want to take this into my own hands?
ask your professor to give you his "order for learning" the concepts first. then strive to learn them in that order.
Where are the Los Angeles Kama affiliates!?
5 Ethel Coplen Way, Irvine, CA (Inside the Racquet Club of Irvine)
So if a Gym is Teaching The WRONG way that Means The Instructor Doesn't really know Much, cause an instructor who knows would not use this Scattered Unorganized teaching..... someone who knows also knows how to feed you 1/2 a spoon at a time & your not getting the next spoon till you swallow the 1st 1/2 ... i trained in TKD with a Great Instructor From Korea couldn't speak english very well almost nothing , this was i n the mid 80's he had just arrived in canada, i asked him once when we would start punching he said when you can eat with your feet....best TKD Teacher in Canada Young Chong Su ...after 2 years with mr, chong su when i'd go to the other TKD clubs to watch we were miles ahead of everyone else, we trained the basics always & did Things Very Slow .....he still is teaching at the same place.....Maybe i can move in with you & your Family Ryan??? LOL . ! kkkkkk!
Hi Ryan, just a quick question, I have been a blue belt for about 4 months now and I’m starting to compete in big competitions, when my professor awarded me the belt he gave not a very good belt and it’s also 3 sizes too big for me but no disrespect to to him, I have recently purchased a kanji belt witch is a high end belt and it looks amazing but I’m not sure if it would be rude and disrespectful to wear it, could you please let me know, thanks a lot.