@@TempOne-vh4fd I bet it"s an FDM and not a resin printer. For this small scale modelling FDM is usually unsuitable. Or takes a lot of work (sanding, or using fillers) to get rid of the layer lines. And the models lose some of the details in the process.
Get cheap metal utensils and plates and cups from a thrift shop, melt them down, and cast them. However, you should use a lead tester unless you’re very confident you’re not going to swallow or lick your marines.
@@QuintMorrison6 Cheap utensils are probably going to be made out of stamped steel and are way beyond what you'd be able to melt down at home. Would be better just to buy some white metal and use that, it isnt *too* expensive afaik
A few tips for these kind of molds; after adding a bit of whatever release agent works for your material choice, pack both sides of the mold with material and focus on the troublesome details and undercuts. Pack the clay/dough into the nooks and crannies of both sides, add a ball to the middle and smoosh. This will ensure a consistent smoosh-fill. 2. After you do a few successful ones, weigh it including the flashing and squeeze out and use that same amount for each next batch to get repeatable results. If your best few had the right amount of material, just weigh them, and if they weigh 20g or whatever just make a bunch of 20g balls and then smoosh em all at once. (Edit: to clarify, you don’t want to measure the figure after clean up because you always want a bit of squeeze out. Ideally you want just a tiny bit of squeeze out on all sides, this ensures that you have a properly filled mold and no bubbles or gaps.) 3. A bit of compressed air works great to release them without pulling and squishing. Even a can of keyboard duster air works, or a small airbrush compressor and empty airbrush. Just get a small opening and gently blast some air into the crack to undo the suction and surface adhesion and it should pop out really easily without getting that gansta lean you mentioned. Lastly, I’d absolutely recommend foam clay! It works like clay, air dries and hardens into a material very similar to craft foam sheets, it’s a soft bouncy closed cell foam. Clay foam takes paint pretty well, it stays squishy and fun to use, and it’s safe for kids to play with and not break them or hurt themselves/each other by throwing them or whatever. A kid can learn to paint for cheap (a big bucket of foam clay is like 500gr for about 15$us and keep in mind that it weighs almost nothing. 500gr is a lot) and have fun playing with them and get excited and bash them or bang them into each other or whatever without making you cry as the kids destroy your expensive and hand painted minis! Hahaha one of the best parts about foam clay is that it sands and trims easily but the magic thing about it is you can smooth a surface with just a bit of water on a finger or cotton swab. You can just dip a swab in water and smooth over the mold lines or imperfections, and “glue” mistakes with a bit of water. This only works before it dries fully. For more info Kamui Cosplay has videos on it and works with foam clay a lot! I did all of the experiments myself with this technique when my niece wanted to make her own toys. She wanted some larger scale D&D minis but she wanted chibi and cute ones. So 3D digital sculpted a few myself and paid a girl on fiver to do a few more, we had these exact type of molds made and printed in engineering resin by a D&D print shop on Etsy and then we made hundreds of minis out of foam clay and they held up for a long time! She did dozens of game nights with her friends, she strode them loose in a big box or a backpack and they just took the abuse. I’d highly recommend it. She’s older now and using the same clay and techniques for cosplay too… it’s versatile stuff! Hope this helps! Good luck and I hope you get your army of tie dye marines!
This is really fantastic. I’ve been looking for a way to teach my class how to paint minis while on the school’s budget and this video and comment may be exactly what I’m looking for!!
I feel like La-Doll clay from Japan would work really well for this, its a product created to make realistic Ball Jointed Dolls. When it is dry it does not shrink at all, and its designed to be painted on when dry, ends up with a really smooth finish.
Milliput could be a good call too; I find it tends to be a lot softer than Green Stuff when mixed, especially if you get it nice and warm, and you can also leave it to cure for a while in the mould, so it should be sturdier when you try to release it.
you can always just prime over the painted mini again if you dont like your paintjob. you can do this a few times without visibly loosing detail. and then you can soak it for a few days in window cleaner and clean it with a toothbrush
Fun fact putting Super Sculpey into a cold place such as a freezer stiffens it up to make it less likely to deform. Also, you could pack both sides and then close it to have less squeeze-out.
I've built models before (plastic, card, and metal) but I'm not into tabletop gaming at all, and then this video popped up in my recommended. Your space marines turned out pretty good and your miniature painting skills are amazing!
It is such an unexpected delight to watch your videos. You’re editing and humor just gets better with every one. So many great little lol bits in here and you have such a great positive vibe. Thanks for making some really unique content. Excited to see what you do in the future.
Nice one Louise, Super Sculpy is used by a lot of doll makers I believe but one product you may want to try is Apoxie Clay which is a 2-part epoxy clay that hardens naturally in a mater of hours and is very resilient with no shrinkage. You may have seen Apoxie Sculpt being used by kit-bashers but I believe the Clay is a softer material and is recommended by the manufacturer for stamping/impressions. If you want a rubbery little guy then there is a 2 part resin that produces a rubber (if I remember the name I will edit this) but this needs some adapting of the mould for a 'Pour' hole and vents and finally the old silicone bath sealant - squeeze it out into a tub of water and dish soap, massage into a lump then use like the Play-Doh - I use this for cheap and easy moulds for puppet eyes and it holds up really well (my moulds are over 3 years old). Keep up the weird videos.
I am just vintage enough to love both those retro space marines, and Play-doh! It is the perfect combination. I TOTALLY would have had the Play-doh Space Marine Manufactorum!
Honestly, not only is this a fun little project to mess around with, this is a great way to test color schemes and painting techniques. Bake a batch of sculpty, and you can practice on a bunch of clay minis to get your scheme down and then use what you've learned to apply to your expensive GW models
I agree! This is in no way a "let's replace our armies with these" but just a really cool little experiment and honestly a lot of good fun for those who wanna practice or try something out!
Your videos are so incredible! As a crafty person who’s partner paints WH (that’s always been cool but not a pool I’ve wanted to dip my toe into) finding your content has me building my first kit and being so engaged by all the creative ways you enjoy the hobby! Literally inspiring 🥳
So when doing this kind of press mould stuff for miniatures, my tips would be: 1) Use Apoxie Sculpt, a different type of epoxy putty, as it's cheaper than Greenstuff but takes detail well 2) Demould the miniature when the epoxy has fully set. It might be easier if you insert a piece of coat hanger wire into the putty in the mould when it's still soft, then you can use this to leverage out the finished miniature when is set.
This took me back to the time my uncle would cast Space Marines with lead. Fun times, although I think my age expectancy might have dropped by handling those lol.
That little spinning shot with the IF and the shorter RW marine looks like the set up for some kind of goofy buddy comedy about two marines that were accidentally dispatched on the same mission and had to team up to take down a chaos cult or something 😂
I have several actual units made of DAS clay and greenstuff-like resin and I would caution that DAS clay will break over time when handled, unless the surface is soaked in glue to harden it. It is very porous so it will absorb it to decent depth. It shrinks a lot too, so I only used it for certain flat parts like cloaks and non-human minis like trolls. Once painted and on the table, you cant tell at a glance which of my minis are hard plastic and which are DAS. Also, regarding the amount of material and pressing, this seems quite excessive. My general approach was to just fill each half exactly with material , then add a little bit to the center to force the two halves to merge and create pressure on the details, but minimize material waste, needed pressure and mould lines. Generally you could produce ok result pressing with hands only.
A suggestion on that mold and using firmer materials like the Sculpey and Fimo: can you drill a small hole at the bottom of the mold for some of the excess to squeeze out of? That might make it easier to get them closed with having to resort to a vise each time. And the DAS was definitely too wet; I think the curing time is too long on that but I think they have other clays that might work better. NARA makes a flower clay for sculpting petals that stays flexible and can bend up to 360 degrees which might open up some interesting ideas if one was to go beyond space marines.
Yup these needed vents and petrol jelly. Green stuff can be used in molds, you just have to let it cure for a few hours before you try and take it out. Squish molds in general aren't that great for minis in general, because often minis are too complex to be cast using one mold. You have to use multiple molds for the different parts and you end up with a lot of flash.
Love the video so much! Petroleum jelly is the best mold release, if you want to try FIMO again. Also you can boil Super Sculpy to get it to harden. :)
When you made the candle space marine I thinked that your next step was to make a "lost wax" casting with bronze or another melted metal like the traditional sculpture method. Great video, very fun! ❤🎉
Very cool, the 3-D box idea can lend itself to other areas as well! I was thinking that maybe using a quick clamp might be a good and inexpensive way to squeeze the mold together instead of a vise.
So after the first couple minutes I was like ooooo, new Warhammer game mode idea: that box is a canon mechanic, some kind of cloning vat or whatever, and part of your struggle to win is trying to outcompete your opponent in unit production... and then behold, Necromolds did it xD
That paint job is incredible!!!! love it :) Curious if a 50:50 milliput:greenstuff mix would work well? The milliput makes the mix a lot softer and easier to work with
The greenstuff just needed to cure for a few hours before taking it out of the mold. I use pure greenstuff with oyumaru/bluestuff and found its best to let it sit long enough to harden so it doesn't warp when you take it out of the mold, but is soft enough you can practically peel away the flash with your fingers.
I think mixing Milliput and Greenstuff might work well... Milliput is much softer than greenstuff and when you mix them you get something that has properties from both materials. Then perhaps letting them cure inside the mould for an hour or two (but not until they are completely solid) before trying to get them out. If I had a 3d-printer or a 3d printer I would try this. I use this mix whenever I use blue stuff moulds and it works really well (compared to only using greenstuff or miliput) Cures rock hard in the end as well...
After having watched several OOAK doll making videos with the rest of my household "I didn't have X so I made one out Apoxie Sculpt" is a regular meme phrase in my house.
I LOVE THIS SOOOO MUCH!!! I've only recent started playing and researching 40k, and I love the charm and aesthetic of the old 2nd-5th edition models. The new models are beyond cool, but I really want to get multiple factions made of dough. Thank you for taking the time to put this wonderful video together.
This is probably the most hilarious video yet. I love all of it and how much fun it was. The icing was definitely the "advertisement" in the middle. Well done! 😁👍
Adorable! And the play-doh / sculpty minis are cute too. The great thing about RH is how much your personality and artistic approach are on display with the projects. They're fun, colorful, quirky, and unique. Keep up the great work and direction the channel is going.
The commercial was the funniest thing I've seen a good while. Also the photo bombed dreadnaught made me spit my drink out lol. I'm definitely going to try these at home
I love how this can be used for getting young new painters into the hobby without spending a fortune on fancy new models but most of all I love how the ex GW employee is promoting the recasting of GW products they must have really done the a number on you when you found a reason to leave (if you left by your own choice)
Perhaps worth trying DAS again, but rather than pulling it out as soon as you've pressed, letting it dry fully. Since paperclay is airdry and it shrinks as it dries, it would pull itself out of the mold and you wouldn't have any lean or distortion. It would just take a little longer. You could also just use an exacto knife to cut any fiddly remains.
letting them dry a bit or even almost fully dry before pulling them out of the mould would help prevent some of the deforming, back in Ye olde days I used a lot of homemade press moulds, mostly for smaller stuff like guns and details and letting them dry really helped a lot , in part of the shirking it will come loss easier and its more firm so less bendy, couple of wires or sprue pressed into the center also helps with that. good luck looks like a fun project
I think the biggest thing that stands out to me about this process is how the space marines aren't GW space marines and in no way impacting anything they do. It's almost as if you just found a fun thing to play with and are having fun with it.
i think the (green-stuff ?) failed molds would be really cool for space-marine based shrines and statues, for like 'in memory of such and such battle brother', and there's a sort of vietnam-war-memorial style wall or gazebo temple, of his various legendary deeds and battles, or something.
I realy like the video 🙂 Try talcum powder or vaseline lip balm as a demoulding realase agent depending of what kind of clay you use, talcum works great for fimo.
I like how you ended up with scale creep, that was a funny added bonus. I honestly thought this'll be pants but no, professionally painted makes everything look good. This gadget wouldnt have supplied my friend with an army when he was little, he'd have just eaten his playdoh marines, he had a taste for forbidden foods .. then grew up to resemble an ogre, the signs were there all along.
That is just so cool!!! I want to make an all Play Doh army now! Hahaha! Your paintjob makes them look almost indistinguishable at a glance, really nice work!!!
I've done some casting with greenstuff and thermoplastic (aka bluestuff). I found that what worked best was to push a bit of green stuff carefully into the extremities, then fill up the main space on each side until it only slightly came higher than the mould and then, yes, clamp it together. The results were... OK but still had more flashing than is ideal.
Cold porcelain is a pain in the ass to make because its messy, but it'd likely do fairly good with this mold. Bonus being the shrinkage may be enough for them to dry/cure to the proper scale, not to mention since its mostly PVA glue paint bonds extremely well to it once cured.
Spraying the mould with cooking oil before hand makes the green stuff mini literally fall out of the mould when you open it. I’ve done this countless times with high elf horse tails, because buying 2nd HE horses never come with tails haha
I'm pretty sure this video made me aware of Necromolds. The first major expansion and restock of the base game just released at the beginning of the month and international shipping should be opening up soon towards the end of the month or start of next month if you want to get your hands on the game. My copy just arrived yesterday and I came back here to rewatch since I'll probably try making permanent versions of some of the minis and wanted to see what you'd settled on for clay and I might want to figure out adding that space marine to my game.
as someone who knows little about 40k and this Mini Painting hobby. Of the videos ive been watching. I love them, They have a good Vibe and style that i really like. and the paint came out really well. really cool.
There is another material. It’s a special kind of clay/playdoh that is used in Asia. It is soft like playdoh but stiffens when exposed to air. You could try this at different stages of stiffness, it will also dry into a permanent cast within a day. They call it “Nien Tu” in Mandarin.
Dear Rogue, it's better to fill the mold with green stuff bit by bit (press firmly to get good details) until each half is filled, than a little on one part to make them stick together and only after that stick both halves together. Well at least this worked with blue stuff with lego casing. Hope this helps.
Y'all, this is peak Rogue Hobbies. I mean, I'm grateful she taught me to paint and all, but the humor and Play Doh stuff was just too hilarious and fun.😆
Man this would be a cool way to create "stone" or "concrete" statues for terrain, the little imperfections would basically be free weathering of the chipped "stone" and it would be really easy to add even more damage from stray shots or shrapnel.
If you cover the marines in a base coat of acrylic matte medium, you don't have to worry about the weird texture. That will give them a coating that almost feels thirsty, and is a joy to paint. 'Liquid green stuff' is also an option for the base coat, but meh, acrylic matte medium is very cheap and does the job. In the past I have diluted the medium a bit and dipped them, then set aside to dry. Super quick.
Try a mix of Milliput and Play-doh, roughly 50/50, adjusting to your needs. The Play-doh makes it more malleable and less sticky, and the Milliput makes it cure and harden. If you're worried about having your mixture stick to to mold, a light dusting of talcum powder will act as a release agent. I've used the above method for making new parts like windows and door frames for Mordheim, using Blue Stuff/Oyumaru to make the molds.
As the air drying clay is water based most greasy things can help with the release. Vaseline for example. Even cooking oils and moisturizers that are oil based work if you feel like improvising
Great video! Super informative and interesting the whole way through. I also really like the concept of the unit boxes. Imagine playing a TTRPG where at the start of the session the DM lines up a series of boxes that all the players can see. Those will be the mystery encounters for the session. I don't know what would be more intimidating, having all of the boxes be similar in size and then having a massive one at the end of the line, or pulling out a massive one later in the session when the party enters a more dangerous area. The DM could even take out the party by having a big unit box but when opened it would actually be a super small press-zone, like for a mouse.
Some old advice I've heard from clay molds for minis using Play doh, coat the mold faces with Some oily product to make your life easier when you have to remove them from the cast. Baby oil I believe is the one they were using on that video.
Just a thought, my wife has the same issue of trying to get cake fondant out of moulds too. A quick blast of cake release spray helps A LOT with this and doesn’t deform the model. 👍
Can you imagine if we take the mould concept a step further and have moulds in individual pieces so you mix and match your space marine to your liking. Helmets, hand gestures, arm angles, backpacks and especially weapons.
I think when the Emperor said:
"Like clay I shall mould them and in the furnace of war forge them"
I don't think this is what he meant.
almost "like play doh" was the quote
He actually said :"Like clay I shall mould them and in the BIG CLAMP of war squish them"
You question the word of the emprah? Heretic!
Check your local library for a 3d printer. I just recently found out ours has 2.
@@TempOne-vh4fd I bet it"s an FDM and not a resin printer. For this small scale modelling FDM is usually unsuitable. Or takes a lot of work (sanding, or using fillers) to get rid of the layer lines. And the models lose some of the details in the process.
I do really enjoy the irony of a “how can I make infinite space marines?” Video in which a 3D printer is used, but not to make infinite space marines
Same
"she took the kids" absolutely destroyed me.
The whole Play Doh Space Marines ad was pure gold. The editing, the script, the humor, it's just perfect.
So savage , “she took the kids…” 😂
YESSS
The true "We have Space Marines at home" experience!
That was literally the moment(s) that I rushed to Like the video hahaha
If you want a REALLY sturdy marine, you could turn this 3D print mould into a rubber mould and cast it in white metal. Now that's old school.
Full circle.
Get cheap metal utensils and plates and cups from a thrift shop, melt them down, and cast them. However, you should use a lead tester unless you’re very confident you’re not going to swallow or lick your marines.
@@QuintMorrison6 Cheap utensils are probably going to be made out of stamped steel and are way beyond what you'd be able to melt down at home. Would be better just to buy some white metal and use that, it isnt *too* expensive afaik
@@T0mm3n Aluminium soda pop/drink cans.
You can melt the metal bases of Matchbox cars in a coffee can over an open fire. Things you discover when you're a teenager...
The true "We have Space Marines at home" experience!
The real question is: can we seal the mould with anything that makes it suitable for food? EDIBLE SPACE MARINES
For Tyrranid and Ork players who wants to teach others how to play?😂
Marzipan, i work at a company that does stuff like that but i would imagine GW wouldnt like that :D
Gummy marines would be super easy. All you would need is to add a sprue and print in food-safe resin.
you have sugar paste, that would work as a charm!
@@Cry2punkt0 problem is 3d printer resin is porous and this not fiid-safe, so it'd need a coating on the inside before you make food in it
A few tips for these kind of molds; after adding a bit of whatever release agent works for your material choice, pack both sides of the mold with material and focus on the troublesome details and undercuts. Pack the clay/dough into the nooks and crannies of both sides, add a ball to the middle and smoosh. This will ensure a consistent smoosh-fill.
2. After you do a few successful ones, weigh it including the flashing and squeeze out and use that same amount for each next batch to get repeatable results. If your best few had the right amount of material, just weigh them, and if they weigh 20g or whatever just make a bunch of 20g balls and then smoosh em all at once. (Edit: to clarify, you don’t want to measure the figure after clean up because you always want a bit of squeeze out. Ideally you want just a tiny bit of squeeze out on all sides, this ensures that you have a properly filled mold and no bubbles or gaps.)
3. A bit of compressed air works great to release them without pulling and squishing. Even a can of keyboard duster air works, or a small airbrush compressor and empty airbrush. Just get a small opening and gently blast some air into the crack to undo the suction and surface adhesion and it should pop out really easily without getting that gansta lean you mentioned.
Lastly, I’d absolutely recommend foam clay! It works like clay, air dries and hardens into a material very similar to craft foam sheets, it’s a soft bouncy closed cell foam. Clay foam takes paint pretty well, it stays squishy and fun to use, and it’s safe for kids to play with and not break them or hurt themselves/each other by throwing them or whatever. A kid can learn to paint for cheap (a big bucket of foam clay is like 500gr for about 15$us and keep in mind that it weighs almost nothing. 500gr is a lot) and have fun playing with them and get excited and bash them or bang them into each other or whatever without making you cry as the kids destroy your expensive and hand painted minis! Hahaha one of the best parts about foam clay is that it sands and trims easily but the magic thing about it is you can smooth a surface with just a bit of water on a finger or cotton swab. You can just dip a swab in water and smooth over the mold lines or imperfections, and “glue” mistakes with a bit of water. This only works before it dries fully. For more info Kamui Cosplay has videos on it and works with foam clay a lot!
I did all of the experiments myself with this technique when my niece wanted to make her own toys. She wanted some larger scale D&D minis but she wanted chibi and cute ones. So 3D digital sculpted a few myself and paid a girl on fiver to do a few more, we had these exact type of molds made and printed in engineering resin by a D&D print shop on Etsy and then we made hundreds of minis out of foam clay and they held up for a long time! She did dozens of game nights with her friends, she strode them loose in a big box or a backpack and they just took the abuse. I’d highly recommend it.
She’s older now and using the same clay and techniques for cosplay too… it’s versatile stuff!
Hope this helps! Good luck and I hope you get your army of tie dye marines!
Absolutely amazing comment. Saving this info for later use
@@SouthOfTheStars278 agreed. We've got an expert here!
Thanks!
This is really fantastic. I’ve been looking for a way to teach my class how to paint minis while on the school’s budget and this video and comment may be exactly what I’m looking for!!
Its always impressive how high quality the editing is for your videos.
Thanks! I really appreciate it 🥹
Your paint jobs were like magic. This went from a fun novelty to genuinely impressive.
I feel like La-Doll clay from Japan would work really well for this, its a product created to make realistic Ball Jointed Dolls. When it is dry it does not shrink at all, and its designed to be painted on when dry, ends up with a really smooth finish.
I had a moment of stunned amazement seeing you FREEHAND the Imperial fist.
Hardcore, instant subscription, we love to see it
I may do a little video in my patreon about the imperial fist yellow with some freehanding tips! People seem into it :D
Bruh, first time freehanding that imperial fist logo is genuinely insane
It’s a relatively simple design…
@@justadummy8076 nevertheless, not easy to freehand
Milliput could be a good call too; I find it tends to be a lot softer than Green Stuff when mixed, especially if you get it nice and warm, and you can also leave it to cure for a while in the mould, so it should be sturdier when you try to release it.
I use milliput with my Blue Stuff molds. It's much cheaper and the results are just fine.
Just out here appreciating the effort that went into the play doh dreadnought that featured in 2 seconds of footage
This seems like a great way to practice painting space marines without worrying about ruining a bunch of overpriced minis. Also they’re cute.
I was thinking the same thing!
you can always just prime over the painted mini again if you dont like your paintjob. you can do this a few times without visibly loosing detail. and then you can soak it for a few days in window cleaner and clean it with a toothbrush
@@peterheinzo515that's efficient, and I've done that a few times, but honestly this just looks more fun
The same people do an Orc one so you could make a mini-game.
Over priced??? Not at all. I've never seen an over priced mini, except on forgeworld.
Fun fact putting Super Sculpey into a cold place such as a freezer stiffens it up to make it less likely to deform. Also, you could pack both sides and then close it to have less squeeze-out.
this is so insane and unhinged it absolutely demolishes the norm and storms off into the territory of original and VERY interesting content. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it 🤣
Exactly! Super refreshing while also informative :)
I've built models before (plastic, card, and metal) but I'm not into tabletop gaming at all, and then this video popped up in my recommended. Your space marines turned out pretty good and your miniature painting skills are amazing!
It is such an unexpected delight to watch your videos. You’re editing and humor just gets better with every one. So many great little lol bits in here and you have such a great positive vibe.
Thanks for making some really unique content. Excited to see what you do in the future.
That stone cold "she took the kids." had me rolling. lol!
Love DIY hobby friendly videos like this and would love to see more of your personal creations/paints vintage or new!
Nice one Louise, Super Sculpy is used by a lot of doll makers I believe but one product you may want to try is Apoxie Clay which is a 2-part epoxy clay that hardens naturally in a mater of hours and is very resilient with no shrinkage. You may have seen Apoxie Sculpt being used by kit-bashers but I believe the Clay is a softer material and is recommended by the manufacturer for stamping/impressions. If you want a rubbery little guy then there is a 2 part resin that produces a rubber (if I remember the name I will edit this) but this needs some adapting of the mould for a 'Pour' hole and vents and finally the old silicone bath sealant - squeeze it out into a tub of water and dish soap, massage into a lump then use like the Play-Doh - I use this for cheap and easy moulds for puppet eyes and it holds up really well (my moulds are over 3 years old). Keep up the weird videos.
Archmagos Dominus Louise Cawl making the next generation of space marines over here.
I am just vintage enough to love both those retro space marines, and Play-doh! It is the perfect combination. I TOTALLY would have had the Play-doh Space Marine Manufactorum!
Imagine for a moment, Ultramarine jello shots! For each unit you lose in a game, consume an Ultra-shot-marine!
This needs to happen
Honestly, not only is this a fun little project to mess around with, this is a great way to test color schemes and painting techniques. Bake a batch of sculpty, and you can practice on a bunch of clay minis to get your scheme down and then use what you've learned to apply to your expensive GW models
I agree! This is in no way a "let's replace our armies with these" but just a really cool little experiment and honestly a lot of good fun for those who wanna practice or try something out!
Your videos are so incredible! As a crafty person who’s partner paints WH (that’s always been cool but not a pool I’ve wanted to dip my toe into) finding your content has me building my first kit and being so engaged by all the creative ways you enjoy the hobby! Literally inspiring 🥳
"THEY'RE politically DUBIOUS..." 😂😂😂
Endless test models for paint schemes! YES! PLEASE!
So when doing this kind of press mould stuff for miniatures, my tips would be:
1) Use Apoxie Sculpt, a different type of epoxy putty, as it's cheaper than Greenstuff but takes detail well
2) Demould the miniature when the epoxy has fully set. It might be easier if you insert a piece of coat hanger wire into the putty in the mould when it's still soft, then you can use this to leverage out the finished miniature when is set.
This took me back to the time my uncle would cast Space Marines with lead. Fun times, although I think my age expectancy might have dropped by handling those lol.
That little spinning shot with the IF and the shorter RW marine looks like the set up for some kind of goofy buddy comedy about two marines that were accidentally dispatched on the same mission and had to team up to take down a chaos cult or something 😂
I have several actual units made of DAS clay and greenstuff-like resin and I would caution that DAS clay will break over time when handled, unless the surface is soaked in glue to harden it. It is very porous so it will absorb it to decent depth. It shrinks a lot too, so I only used it for certain flat parts like cloaks and non-human minis like trolls. Once painted and on the table, you cant tell at a glance which of my minis are hard plastic and which are DAS.
Also, regarding the amount of material and pressing, this seems quite excessive. My general approach was to just fill each half exactly with material , then add a little bit to the center to force the two halves to merge and create pressure on the details, but minimize material waste, needed pressure and mould lines. Generally you could produce ok result pressing with hands only.
Brb buying play doh stocks
A suggestion on that mold and using firmer materials like the Sculpey and Fimo: can you drill a small hole at the bottom of the mold for some of the excess to squeeze out of? That might make it easier to get them closed with having to resort to a vise each time. And the DAS was definitely too wet; I think the curing time is too long on that but I think they have other clays that might work better. NARA makes a flower clay for sculpting petals that stays flexible and can bend up to 360 degrees which might open up some interesting ideas if one was to go beyond space marines.
Yup these needed vents and petrol jelly. Green stuff can be used in molds, you just have to let it cure for a few hours before you try and take it out.
Squish molds in general aren't that great for minis in general, because often minis are too complex to be cast using one mold. You have to use multiple molds for the different parts and you end up with a lot of flash.
Love the video so much! Petroleum jelly is the best mold release, if you want to try FIMO again. Also you can boil Super Sculpy to get it to harden. :)
This was genuinely a fascinating video. Thanks for the work you put in putting all this together and subjecting yourself to painting play-doh!
I love that a good or great paint job will elevate a sculpt that might not be the "best" or most detailed. These are glorious.
When you made the candle space marine I thinked that your next step was to make a "lost wax" casting with bronze or another melted metal like the traditional sculpture method. Great video, very fun! ❤🎉
Anyone who has tried to unblock their child's playdough extruder is not surprised that it dried out rock hard.
Very cool, the 3-D box idea can lend itself to other areas as well! I was thinking that maybe using a quick clamp might be a good and inexpensive way to squeeze the mold together instead of a vise.
Wow! They look seriously Oldhammer when painted. Fun stuff! Thanks Louise!
Glad you like them!
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So after the first couple minutes I was like ooooo, new Warhammer game mode idea: that box is a canon mechanic, some kind of cloning vat or whatever, and part of your struggle to win is trying to outcompete your opponent in unit production... and then behold, Necromolds did it xD
8:15 perhaps you could spray vegetable oil or something on the inside of the mold first to make it more non-stick
That paint job is incredible!!!! love it :)
Curious if a 50:50 milliput:greenstuff mix would work well? The milliput makes the mix a lot softer and easier to work with
It will
Why even add greenstuff? Just use milliput, it would be softer
The greenstuff just needed to cure for a few hours before taking it out of the mold. I use pure greenstuff with oyumaru/bluestuff and found its best to let it sit long enough to harden so it doesn't warp when you take it out of the mold, but is soft enough you can practically peel away the flash with your fingers.
Louise, your enthusiasm is infectious! This was so much fun, I can't wait to try it out.
Normally enjoy the content from this channel but this episode was extra fun and enjoyable 😊, the "she took the kids" comment put me over the edge 😂
secondeded
That playdough dreadnought at the end was a thing of beauty
He's my favourite
I think mixing Milliput and Greenstuff might work well... Milliput is much softer than greenstuff and when you mix them you get something that has properties from both materials. Then perhaps letting them cure inside the mould for an hour or two (but not until they are completely solid) before trying to get them out. If I had a 3d-printer or a 3d printer I would try this. I use this mix whenever I use blue stuff moulds and it works really well (compared to only using greenstuff or miliput)
Cures rock hard in the end as well...
Agree milliput and green stuff is a good mix for two part mould squishing
“So I went the complete opposite and tried to make one out of a soft material……clouds” made me laugh out loud at work! 😂
Ah Yes - the Cloud Space Marine.... **cut to Corvus Corrax ripping a screaming Word Bearer apart as a mass of Black Smoke**
Aves Apoxie Sculpt would be good to try, but would suggest letting the polymer clays cured for an hour or 2 before de;molding them
After having watched several OOAK doll making videos with the rest of my household "I didn't have X so I made one out Apoxie Sculpt" is a regular meme phrase in my house.
I LOVE THIS SOOOO MUCH!!!
I've only recent started playing and researching 40k, and I love the charm and aesthetic of the old 2nd-5th edition models. The new models are beyond cool, but I really want to get multiple factions made of dough.
Thank you for taking the time to put this wonderful video together.
This is probably the most hilarious video yet. I love all of it and how much fun it was. The icing was definitely the "advertisement" in the middle.
Well done! 😁👍
Have the little box for old school termies and genestealers and you can make yourself an adorable version of Space Hulk.
Adorable! And the play-doh / sculpty minis are cute too.
The great thing about RH is how much your personality and artistic approach are on display with the projects. They're fun, colorful, quirky, and unique. Keep up the great work and direction the channel is going.
Pro tip; put green stuff in boiling hot water until it's super soft, take it out and press it, and then dunk the entire press into cold water.
Louise, your personality and production value is a 9.5/10 ⭐
The commercial was the funniest thing I've seen a good while. Also the photo bombed dreadnaught made me spit my drink out lol. I'm definitely going to try these at home
I love how this can be used for getting young new painters into the hobby without spending a fortune on fancy new models but most of all I love how the ex GW employee is promoting the recasting of GW products they must have really done the a number on you when you found a reason to leave (if you left by your own choice)
There's a reason why GW's newer painting videos only feature the artists hands and not their faces.
Perhaps worth trying DAS again, but rather than pulling it out as soon as you've pressed, letting it dry fully. Since paperclay is airdry and it shrinks as it dries, it would pull itself out of the mold and you wouldn't have any lean or distortion. It would just take a little longer. You could also just use an exacto knife to cut any fiddly remains.
I'm six minutes in and I have to say, this video is a cinematic masterpiece. Thank you for being such an entertaining entertainer. Truly.
You are goofy
letting them dry a bit or even almost fully dry before pulling them out of the mould would help prevent some of the deforming, back in Ye olde days I used a lot of homemade press moulds, mostly for smaller stuff like guns and details and letting them dry really helped a lot , in part of the shirking it will come loss easier and its more firm so less bendy, couple of wires or sprue pressed into the center also helps with that. good luck looks like a fun project
I think the biggest thing that stands out to me about this process is how the space marines aren't GW space marines and in no way impacting anything they do.
It's almost as if you just found a fun thing to play with and are having fun with it.
i think the (green-stuff ?) failed molds would be really cool for space-marine based shrines and statues, for like 'in memory of such and such battle brother', and there's a sort of vietnam-war-memorial style wall or gazebo temple, of his various legendary deeds and battles, or something.
I realy like the video 🙂
Try talcum powder or vaseline lip balm as a demoulding realase agent depending of what kind of clay you use, talcum works great for fimo.
Cooking oil spray works for me, mainly because I don’t own the other two lol
Cornflour?
Actual industrial mould release is pretty cheap, you can get a full tin of it for less than the price of a couple of space marines.....
I like how you ended up with scale creep, that was a funny added bonus. I honestly thought this'll be pants but no, professionally painted makes everything look good. This gadget wouldnt have supplied my friend with an army when he was little, he'd have just eaten his playdoh marines, he had a taste for forbidden foods .. then grew up to resemble an ogre, the signs were there all along.
Your painting skills are phenomenal, you need to do more painting videos/tutorials! 😮😁
Thank you!
"She took the kids." This line may have been enough to make me subscribe to the channel.
Love youre energy. You're just what this hobby needs. Thanks for being awesome
Thank you I try 🥹
you painting skills are so good you could literally paint a rock to look like a legit space marine and it would totes look like a legit space marine.
That is just so cool!!! I want to make an all Play Doh army now! Hahaha! Your paintjob makes them look almost indistinguishable at a glance, really nice work!!!
I've done some casting with greenstuff and thermoplastic (aka bluestuff). I found that what worked best was to push a bit of green stuff carefully into the extremities, then fill up the main space on each side until it only slightly came higher than the mould and then, yes, clamp it together. The results were... OK but still had more flashing than is ideal.
Totally loving this. Need all the moulds. I think they are substantially transformed!
Cold porcelain is a pain in the ass to make because its messy, but it'd likely do fairly good with this mold. Bonus being the shrinkage may be enough for them to dry/cure to the proper scale, not to mention since its mostly PVA glue paint bonds extremely well to it once cured.
Mix milliput with green stuff to make it softer. Clamp and leave to harden. It’ll work. Hilarious and fun video. Great editing and great painting
Milliput/green stuff mix is phenomenal stuff. There's times you'd prefer one or the other, but for general use it's brilliant
That or just Milliput are definitely worth trying!
Spraying the mould with cooking oil before hand makes the green stuff mini literally fall out of the mould when you open it. I’ve done this countless times with high elf horse tails, because buying 2nd HE horses never come with tails haha
I'm pretty sure this video made me aware of Necromolds. The first major expansion and restock of the base game just released at the beginning of the month and international shipping should be opening up soon towards the end of the month or start of next month if you want to get your hands on the game.
My copy just arrived yesterday and I came back here to rewatch since I'll probably try making permanent versions of some of the minis and wanted to see what you'd settled on for clay and I might want to figure out adding that space marine to my game.
This is just... So much fun. thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@roguehobbies hard not to! Had some of my favourite things. Like clay being smooshed and paint getting used.
Only Sugs can avoid the legal nightmare of 3D printing GeeDubs and simply print moulds for Play Doh Marines... Love it!
Your painting skills are amazing! You turned a frog into a prince ❤
I like the look over the normal space marine p, it gives them a character of their own that goes beyond just a different paint scheme.
So glad you showed off the candle marine 👍🏻I'm going to try making one with sprue goo 😅
as someone who knows little about 40k and this Mini Painting hobby. Of the videos ive been watching. I love them, They have a good Vibe and style that i really like. and the paint came out really well. really cool.
I spend an hour or two every night hunting eBay for new oldhammer stuff 😂
"Squeezing out Space Marines", sounds like something an Iron Warrior would say about Daemobculaba
Conclusion: you're such a talented painter that you could paint any monstrosity and still get a cool result
There is another material. It’s a special kind of clay/playdoh that is used in Asia. It is soft like playdoh but stiffens when exposed to air. You could try this at different stages of stiffness, it will also dry into a permanent cast within a day. They call it “Nien Tu” in Mandarin.
Dear Rogue, it's better to fill the mold with green stuff bit by bit (press firmly to get good details) until each half is filled, than a little on one part to make them stick together and only after that stick both halves together. Well at least this worked with blue stuff with lego casing. Hope this helps.
Y'all, this is peak Rogue Hobbies. I mean, I'm grateful she taught me to paint and all, but the humor and Play Doh stuff was just too hilarious and fun.😆
Cant wait to indulge in some bootleg criminal activities
The commercial/domestic despair was an immediate sub.
What the hell is a space marine?
ur a space marine
@@roguehobbies no u
@bingobangoboom, I here there's a lot if them in Sugs's discord.... if only we could work out how to join 😢
Man this would be a cool way to create "stone" or "concrete" statues for terrain, the little imperfections would basically be free weathering of the chipped "stone" and it would be really easy to add even more damage from stray shots or shrapnel.
If you cover the marines in a base coat of acrylic matte medium, you don't have to worry about the weird texture. That will give them a coating that almost feels thirsty, and is a joy to paint. 'Liquid green stuff' is also an option for the base coat, but meh, acrylic matte medium is very cheap and does the job. In the past I have diluted the medium a bit and dipped them, then set aside to dry. Super quick.
Was merely curious to see the results from just the title... Stuck around for the whole video because this was super entertaining. Sub earned :D
Glad you enjoyed!
Try a mix of Milliput and Play-doh, roughly 50/50, adjusting to your needs.
The Play-doh makes it more malleable and less sticky, and the Milliput makes it cure and harden.
If you're worried about having your mixture stick to to mold, a light dusting of talcum powder will act as a release agent.
I've used the above method for making new parts like windows and door frames for Mordheim, using Blue Stuff/Oyumaru to make the molds.
5:31 *an extremely disheveled emperor walks the housing estates of neo Glasgow*
“She’s turned the weans against us”.
She turned the weans against u aye?
As the air drying clay is water based most greasy things can help with the release. Vaseline for example. Even cooking oils and moisturizers that are oil based work if you feel like improvising
20:16, The only time you've ever wanted to *add* texture to a space marine with more layers of paint.
Great video! Super informative and interesting the whole way through. I also really like the concept of the unit boxes. Imagine playing a TTRPG where at the start of the session the DM lines up a series of boxes that all the players can see. Those will be the mystery encounters for the session. I don't know what would be more intimidating, having all of the boxes be similar in size and then having a massive one at the end of the line, or pulling out a massive one later in the session when the party enters a more dangerous area. The DM could even take out the party by having a big unit box but when opened it would actually be a super small press-zone, like for a mouse.
Some old advice I've heard from clay molds for minis using Play doh, coat the mold faces with Some oily product to make your life easier when you have to remove them from the cast. Baby oil I believe is the one they were using on that video.
Just a thought, my wife has the same issue of trying to get cake fondant out of moulds too. A quick blast of cake release spray helps A LOT with this and doesn’t deform the model. 👍
Can you imagine if we take the mould concept a step further and have moulds in individual pieces so you mix and match your space marine to your liking. Helmets, hand gestures, arm angles, backpacks and especially weapons.