Everyone has to remember that china has huge capacity of shipbuilding rather they have what is called over capacity. Once a design is successful they can produce sister vessels very fast.
@@juhao356 The USA can also scale up production as can it's dozen allies who have navies. The USN is by far the most powerful but when you combine it with the JMSDF, ROKN, the royal navy , Australia and so one it's not that simply for China. China is trying to gain experience on these new ships and that will ultimately be the real constraint they face. It's hard to build aircraft carriers ( even if you are China) but what really kills you is training the several thousand man crews that you need to man them. The PLAN will not be able to project power in the American style for at least several decades more and there is nothing China is doing that indicates they are trying or not aware of their real constraints.
@@pietersteenkamp5241实际上实际上官方已经注意到了这一问题。他们很直观的将其表述为“舰等人”（The ship waits for the sailors）的问题。并通过军事院校的扩招和在大学在读生和毕业生中选拔合适的人才进入海军来尽可能快的补充海军人员方面的缺陷。由于中国海军的待遇十分优越（如果你考虑中国货币的国内购买力和退伍军人政策的话），报名的人相当多。但是问题并没有很快得到缓解，海军依旧需要更多人员。
@@pietersteenkamp5241 problem is you people don't realize what is having a huge population. Chinese work like ants. You are talking about shipbuilding capacity but I think combined all these countries you mentioned cannot match Chinese capacity. If their latest design is proved successful it will take them very little time to bring a lot of copies. Don't worry they already have a huge trained force for carrier operations.
@@pietersteenkamp5241 You forget to calculate the total troops of the mentioned allies. And chinese warships by the end of 2025 will be twice the size the of US, so calculate the allies total warships and compared it with the PLAN. 🤣 only bunches of tiny nations with tiny populations were prouded and tiny warships assets were prouded by a dutch who its nation itself was a tiny land and tiny population. 🤣
@@heksogen4788 True, but apart from nuclear power, it took RN innovations for the USN to get where its at, including the very concept of an aircraft carrier to begin with. However, I think what the OP is saying that what took the USN to do in 60 years, the PLAN is looking set to do in less then 20. They've only been in the carrier game some 12 years now, and are already looking like they are going to have a nuclear powered carrier that could well be on par with the USN's Fords, and that is one hell of an achievement in anybodies book.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Type 4 is i reckon still 6-10 years from a fully operational status. China can be a peer enemy of US only after that time, if the war broke out now they would be at disadvantage carrying long range offensive operations against Hawaii and US coast. Their power project also can't be as good without nuclear powered carriers, not like it matters that much because china has not too many foreign bases/ports. Basically China is building a carrier that will fullfil China new and upcoming role on global world stage, a stage that China has yet not entered.
See how advance and sophistication of chinese aircraft ...power is generated by gen4 nuclear plant but usa is generated by gen2 ....(1) Armaments: railguns, and must be equipped by laser due to so good in power generation ....(2) .. Because the function of laser to defend the aircraft carrier from incoming missiles and hypersonic missiles both conventional and nuclear must be already in this air craft carrier ...(3) The application of AI and quantum computation must be also developed ...(4) The conclusion , chinese the latest aircraft carrier will be the most sophisticated aircraft carrier in the world ...
Chinese carriers aren’t intended to fight the American ones. They have the missiles that kill the US fleet several times over. These carriers are power projections for the belt and road initiatives
True, no yet, and not ever. But what a lot of hot headed americans don’t understand is that just because something isn’t intended to doesn’t mean it can’t(NOT saying you are that type of person but in dumbasses on RUclips). If the United States decides to just be a Florida man on the international playing field and feed themselves into the range of the df-17 then all I can say is “let karma do its thing”. The US should not be where it should not be, period.
air craft carrier aren't for taking out aircraft carriers at all, thats a job better suited missiles, china has several anti-aircraft carrier missiles, including 2 which are designed to be one hit to a kill, and the newest one covers at least 5000km, which is enough to reach guam.
Just that all these aren't true, Carrier 004 #19 is sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian long underway half build All documents for nuclear-power was for carrier Not yet build!!! carrier 005 #20 is nuclear-power Also guaranteed by PLAN
@@james_l4337 china is planning for a another carrier they are rivalrying with the usa and there for need better machines and war power this is just a stepping stone for what about be done
You are forgetting to mention that molten salt reactors are working at a much higher temperature than PWRs, thus have a much lower thermal power for the same mechanical/electrical power, and so needing less radiation shielding. With not needing heavy pressure vessels these reactors are much smaller and lighter than those of the US flattops - a major advantage. Earlier this years Det Norske Veritas approved the design of a very large container vessel for all year round traffic through the Arctic Ocean between Pacific ans Atlantic Oceans using a molten salt reactor.
America is in for a huge surprise China is on the destination of the new world of Naval power.They will have 10 new aircraft Carriers by 2030.America beware.. You are no longer the superpower.
What if China builds 2nd 003 simultanously with a new nuclear carrier? They did overlaps like that with previous destroyers before they settled on 052d.
They could be, but basing off of the Chinese carrier building doctrine, the PLAN wanted to build 2 STOBAR carriers, two improved STOBARS of the same class(fujian sister ship), and then research and build nuclear carriers if needed. So they could very well be building a fujian sister ship and installing an experimental nuclear reactors, but that would mean a redesign of many things, but would lay down some foundational knowledge for building a nuclear carrier.
@@92HazelMocha Are they building a second Fujian? And rumor is metal cutting for the 004 began as far back as 2017. Perhaps you have a good source for this, I haven't been able to find much for the past year.
The American attitude is: "We will always be number 1. No one will EVER be able to compete against us. Never mind the fact that China now has a larger Surface Fleet and that the Chinese Fleet is being built to modern standards and the backbone US Navy's Fleet was built in the late 1980s". America's National Debt has destroyed it!
Thanks to Ronald Reagan for merging hundreds of defense companies into single digits lmao. Now we have the true military industrial complex, but with a slight monopoly.
Plus all the data and specs stolen or developed independently plus more educated stem grads. It's apparent that they are around the 2010s to early 2020s technology. As soon as countries cross that era. They can hope to challenge incumbents that have not moved in a long time. Or whose decaying info structure and uneducated population will prove a drag to its national security or long term prosperity and innovation in the Long run.
Every single hull class Aircraft Carrier is just a stepping stone,. Until China announces the first multi hull AC class all these single class AC are just training ships for naval engineers, dock workers, navy sailors and pilots.
Whatever emerges, it will be very interesting. The PLAN is certainly developing their Carrier configurations very rapidly, and it could be possible for the earlier Carriers to be "upgraded" in view of the development lessons learned perhaps?
The Shanghai Jiangnan shipyard is said to be planning to use thorium MSR in future merchant ships. Not only are there less risks with an ambient pressure transfer cycle, the high temperature created by this reactor can us a CO2 transfer cycle with a C02 turbine instead of a steam turbine. The CO2 turbine is much smaller and takes up less space. MSR can remove contaminants and refuel online and do not need to be shut down like PWR systems. In 2025, China is said to start the construction of a 32mw thorium MSR. China already has proof of concept 2mw reactor running in the Gansu desert since late 2022. The big problem in the past has been the hastalloy metal used in the plumbing. It appears the Chinese have solved that problem because otherwise, they wouldn't attempt their full size 32mw reactor. This 32mw reactor moves the calendar up since originally the plan was to produce a industrial size reactor by 2030. It could be the first nuclear carrier might be steam, but maybe the second a MSR system??? While China is constructing a naval uranium PWR. it may come down to seeing how it performs vs a thorium MSR to see which is best suited for China's nuclear fleet. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller ships use the thorium MSR and as Jiannan is planning for merchant ships. If so, that would drive the US crazy, since they were the original inventors of the thorium MSR design. The US chose uranium reactors because the thorium MSR makes it difficult to produce nuclear bomb material. Some types of uranium PWR reactors produce plutonium. Japan for example has a non weaponization of its nuclear power plants so it sends the US its accumulated plutonium. China on the other hand has two 'fast' breeder reactors running to produce plutonium to catch up with Russia and the US so if there is a nuclear agreement to reduce their stockpiles, China doesn't end up on the short end of the stick in decreasing their stockpiles. Media reports say that China had some 400 nuclear weapons and their breeder reactors allows China to produce some 500 more each year.
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission.
The coolest part about the 004 model are all of the sponsons dedicated to various defense roles, IMO, the GRF Class should have more dedicated sponsons like this.
Didn't they put out procurement for nuclear reactors from the Dalian shipyard? What else will you be procuring nuclear reactors if not for a nuclear powered carrier.
Yes it's for carrier there were plenty Video on that But carrier that's Not yet build Carrier 004 #19 is sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian AND PLAN officially admitted long underway It's already over half build inside huge sheds Carrier 005 #20 is nuclear-power guaranteed just as shown And it's Not yet build except its nuclear-power heart is building Thus documents points to next carrier after carrier 004, it has to be carrier 005 #20 the nuclear-power carrier Carrier 004 is conventional-power the deck design was reveal in Chinese videos, with nose longer for EMALS instead of like 003 was initially design for steam power launch Carrier 004 definite has a chimney All these Type outsider refer to is also totally wrong
@@james_l4337 Carrier 004 #19 could be a modified sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian, a bigger CV with 4 cats & elevators for trials & training, before a NP CVN 20 is built.
@Steven-k8t that's what Video try to convince masses However China already know thus All these research were separate out tested e.g. Thorium Thorium woth molten salt reactors (mastered before 2021) Normal nuclear plant with molten-salt etc. Also one generator tested on land It's long been done
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Yep, I support things that are fun and fact based, and not just propaganda based. Speculation that is fact based makes more sense than speculation that is propaganda and feelings based. Anyone who likes and supports watching china insights or whatever falungong type shit is a moron, period.
Rubbish. Let me know when China develops an actual “stealth” aircraft. J-20 is easily tracked by western radar. China’s space tech is based completely on Russian Soyuz technology that’s decades old. China has yet to launch an aircraft off of Fujian using EMALS.
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission. If the Fujian carried so many carrier-based aircraft, there would not be enough fuel storage space. On the other hand, this may mean that the Fujian needs to be a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to leave more space to deploy more carrier-based aircraft. A fully loaded Fujian can weigh over 80,000 tons, with electromagnetic catapults and all-electric propulsion. The Fujian can be a hybrid power. The Fujian can combine conventional and nuclear power. Those who are sour grapes can only talk empty words. When it comes to advanced science and technology, they are like blind men touching an elephant, which is purely the talk of an outsider. People who like to sour grapes are used to making wild remarks and talking big based on their own opinions. This is like looking at the world from a narrow perspective, which is not the right attitude for seeking knowledge and learning. No wonder they go further and further astray.
There is one issue with thorium reactors which is that since it uses molten salt, it corrodes the walls holding the salt, I'm not sure how exactly you fix that issue, apparently China has a test thorium reactor maybe they figured out something or else they still would need to cut the hull to remove the containers whenever it starts corroding
I really happy after read comment under this video that American and European still look down on china. otherwise if they start take China seriously it will make it much harder for china to overcome both of them 🤫
It's true the next nuclear powered carrier is Thorium powered may be molten salt reactor! The next nuclear power is Not carrier 004 #19 because it's long long been under construction! Since 2022 that means its design was completed when EMALS was chosen for carrier 003 #18 Fujian that's even earlier!! Nuclear-power documents refer to the carrier NOT Yet under construction see model ship by shipyard #20 That's definite nuclear-power Carrier 005 #20 Nothing else This is as solid as it can get! Whereas what's the island, control tower looks like?!? Don't look at the artist! Look at that model, that's it!!
Not sure about using a Thorium powered reactor given the numerous issues varioius nations have had in developing them. Lay people have been banging on about Thorium for ages yet, but they still haven't gotten one to produce the same amount of energy on a consistent basis as existing non-thorium designs. If I was on the planning committee, I would recommend going with a tried and tested nuclear power plant for the first nuclear power carriers, and switch up to a Thorium powered reactor once the technology has been proven and matured. Till then, its would a bit too risky to go the Thorium route.
@@dstr1 Absolutely nothing, but has China mastered the technology yet? So far most thorium based reactor have been rather disappointing, overly complicated, and under producing when it came to power output. Thorium does offer some advantages over Uranium based reactors, but the technology is still under development and not yet mature. But mention thorium and people go nuts, as if it was the seconod coming of power generation. We even had hyped not long ago as "THE" near future fuel source for cars In time, thorium reactors may become a viable and preferable ulternative to traditional nuclear reactors, but I don't that time has come yet. Which is why I find it highly unlikely that the PLAN's first nuclear powered carrier will be using a thorium base reactor.
@gumpyoldbugger6944 China have few running Thorium molten-salt reactors prototype before 2020, she reveal these ~2021 By tgat time China already planned a civilian nuclear plant using Thorium Molten Salt it's under construction & is reported by West media
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 nations research on Thorium, US, then India last China China entered last only ~1 decade she had break through Jiangnan shipyard that builds her carriers have proposed Jiangnan ship yard design & propose KUN-24AP atomic powered container ship, with Thorium nuclear reactors Search KUN-24AP This was when 2023 People will just wait & see it's likely out 2030+ It's not something to come out very quickly Turn around time will be like conventional powered carrier very quick Whereas Uranium is very toxic radioactive maintenance takes half year to over Half old nuclear power carriers their life are sitting in dock Not so with Thorium
the mockup has been dismantled to be modified for the Type 004 class carrier & put back together at the ground mockup facility . . . if you observe the mockup island of the Type 003 class it is made of marine grade steel & not bricks & concentrate as the building it's built on . . . the roof & the building itself is designed to mimic the flight deck of the Type 003 . . .
It is important to know which fleet it will be assigned to and where its home port will be. If you are mainly thinking about conserving it, then it should be assigned to the North Sea Fleet and its home port should be Port Arthur. If you want to use it actively, then it should be assigned to the East Sea Fleet and its home port should be Qingdao.
Thank you everyone for your kind comments. I am late in saying this, but I would like to correct my mistake and say that Port Arthur is actually "LUSHUN."
Lets say 5 years to build a carrier and 2 years sea trials. While on sea trails they work on the other carrier China can build 3 of these babies in 16 to 20 years. BUT what if both ship yards build up the carriers simultaneously 😱
no, 2 ys to build & 1y to test & unduct, so by 2029 they'll have 4 carriers, 1 possibly a CVN. if 2 next CVNs r built simultaneously, by 2033 they'll have 6, 3-4 CVs + 2-3 CVNs, dep[ending on Type 004 being conventional or NP.
That's why Carrier 004 is Not nuclear-power It's confirm already building official 2024 It's over half build in big sheds since 2022 design in solid form before that! Nuclear procurement papers 2024 is for next carrier 005 #20 it's guarantee nuclear-power & Thorium no less Unless PLAN wanted to be turtle go old turtle route Uranium Doesn't make sense as China have no Uranium While China already mastered Thorium molten-salt reactors prototype, it's under construction for real civilian use
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission. If the Fujian carried so many carrier-based aircraft, there would not be enough fuel storage space. On the other hand, this may mean that the Fujian needs to be a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to leave more space to deploy more carrier-based aircraft. A fully loaded Fujian can weigh over 80,000 tons, with electromagnetic catapults and all-electric propulsion. The Fujian can be a hybrid power. The Fujian can combine conventional and nuclear power. Those who are sour grapes can only talk empty words. When it comes to advanced science and technology, they are like blind men touching an elephant, which is purely the talk of an outsider. People who like to sour grapes are used to making wild remarks and talking big based on their own opinions. This is like looking at the world from a narrow perspective, which is not the right attitude for seeking knowledge and learning. No wonder they go further and further astray.
What about a Type 004 with length of 350 m and displacement of 120,000 tonnes, intentionally to be slightly bigger and heavier than Gerald Ford to highlight that the US would be symbolically the #2 in a field so cared to the americans? 😆
No never did only on foreign channel China Chinese chinese channels always known its deck look like Conventional power 004 is long under construction admitted 2024 by PLAN ~since 2022 And design approved even earlier It's to work up the foolish 2024 nuclear power ship parts procurement is for next carrier 005 #20 Ship model was released by Jiangnan shipyard, that build carriers Never changed
Veran medium carrier project from Russia which is obviously dead more interesting than pointless 100k tonne carrier. Same with Chinese type 76 carrier/lphd..
Wait a minute. We haven't even finished building the Ford class, and China is already making carriers just as big? Perhaps Doris Miller should be cancelled and new design made that is 50% bigger. Chinese carriers are going to be operating near their home port. US carriers need to be operating far from home. We need a clear advantage.
Does the USN even have a dry dock that could take a carrier that is 50% larger than the Fords? Plus, would such a carrier be able to fit through the Panama Canal? And where are you planning on building such a monster? The US is having enough trouble trying to find enough qualified tradesmen to build its new class of Frigates. Sometimes bigger is not always better. Having perhaps a few smaller carriers in greater numbers would be better then a single super Ford class.
There was a time when we didn't have to chave our navy active away from our shores, now we do. I suppose it may be pointing to the future plans if China to operate away from their shores too !!
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 none of the USN CV/Ns could/can fit through the Panama Canal, that's why they sail around Cape Horn or around the world after their deplyments oveseas to change homeport or go to shipyard for refueling/overhaul.
Whenever I watch videos about aircraft carriers I always think about dinosaurs. Even if the USA has the best aircraft carriers they still didn’t dare go in range of Iran’s hypersonic cruise missile. Now Russia has used an “oreshnik” with a much longer range. Eventually the USA will stop being so rubbish and e able to fire an installable missile at something so big and lacking in nimble movement as a carrier. A small craft could be alerted to a missile launch and turn a bit but with something that big or so slow to control I’d bet you could hit part of it even with a time gap between obtaining satellite images and impact. Maybe if the satellite was blown up but USA uses satellites for warning about nuclear ICBM so by that point you’re already talking nuclear war. I don’t see the point of aircraft carriers in 2024/5. They are just targets.
Correct, it is speculation, but some speculation, like OP’s, is based on known facts and images. Other speculation is based off of pure emotions and propaganda. Which side do you stand, or do you just hate speculation in general. If you hate speculation in general then just don’t watch the videos in general.
@@qinglinzhang7328 Yes, earlier I saw that the model had three engines, but I still didn't believe it. I saw it yesterday, it's three engines in a horizontal configuration.
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Everyone has to remember that china has huge capacity of shipbuilding rather they have what is called over capacity. Once a design is successful they can produce sister vessels very fast.
Our dear USA fellow netizens seem does not have such easy logic. They only hold one idea that USA is far ahead and no one can approach it.
@@juhao356 The USA can also scale up production as can it's dozen allies who have navies. The USN is by far the most powerful but when you combine it with the JMSDF, ROKN, the royal navy , Australia and so one it's not that simply for China. China is trying to gain experience on these new ships and that will ultimately be the real constraint they face. It's hard to build aircraft carriers ( even if you are China) but what really kills you is training the several thousand man crews that you need to man them. The PLAN will not be able to project power in the American style for at least several decades more and there is nothing China is doing that indicates they are trying or not aware of their real constraints.
@@pietersteenkamp5241实际上实际上官方已经注意到了这一问题。他们很直观的将其表述为“舰等人”（The ship waits for the sailors）的问题。并通过军事院校的扩招和在大学在读生和毕业生中选拔合适的人才进入海军来尽可能快的补充海军人员方面的缺陷。由于中国海军的待遇十分优越（如果你考虑中国货币的国内购买力和退伍军人政策的话），报名的人相当多。但是问题并没有很快得到缓解，海军依旧需要更多人员。
@@pietersteenkamp5241 problem is you people don't realize what is having a huge population. Chinese work like ants. You are talking about shipbuilding capacity but I think combined all these countries you mentioned cannot match Chinese capacity. If their latest design is proved successful it will take them very little time to bring a lot of copies. Don't worry they already have a huge trained force for carrier operations.
@@pietersteenkamp5241
You forget to calculate the total troops of the mentioned allies. And chinese warships by the end of 2025 will be twice the size the of US, so calculate the allies total warships and compared it with the PLAN. 🤣
only bunches of tiny nations with tiny populations were prouded and tiny warships assets were prouded by a dutch who its nation itself was a tiny land and tiny population. 🤣
The gap of 60 years is narrowed to 10 years.
US did nuclear supercarriers for ages, sorry the gap is still big.
@@heksogen4788 True, but apart from nuclear power, it took RN innovations for the USN to get where its at, including the very concept of an aircraft carrier to begin with.
However, I think what the OP is saying that what took the USN to do in 60 years, the PLAN is looking set to do in less then 20. They've only been in the carrier game some 12 years now, and are already looking like they are going to have a nuclear powered carrier that could well be on par with the USN's Fords, and that is one hell of an achievement in anybodies book.
@@heksogen4788 China has always been faster, sorry the gap is still big.
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 Type 4 is i reckon still 6-10 years from a fully operational status. China can be a peer enemy of US only after that time, if the war broke out now they would be at disadvantage carrying long range offensive operations against Hawaii and US coast. Their power project also can't be as good without nuclear powered carriers, not like it matters that much because china has not too many foreign bases/ports. Basically China is building a carrier that will fullfil China new and upcoming role on global world stage, a stage that China has yet not entered.
See how advance and sophistication of chinese aircraft ...power is generated by gen4 nuclear plant but usa is generated by gen2 ....(1)
Armaments: railguns, and must be equipped by laser due to so good in power generation ....(2) ..
Because the function of laser to defend the aircraft carrier from incoming missiles and hypersonic missiles both conventional and nuclear must be already in this air craft carrier ...(3)
The application of AI and quantum computation must be also developed ...(4)
The conclusion , chinese the latest aircraft carrier will be the most sophisticated aircraft carrier in the world ...
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Chinese carriers aren’t intended to fight the American ones. They have the missiles that kill the US fleet several times over. These carriers are power projections for the belt and road initiatives
Which means they would be exposed to the same carrier killing missile tech they think would shield them from the US.
and forward defense in the SC Sea.
True, no yet, and not ever. But what a lot of hot headed americans don’t understand is that just because something isn’t intended to doesn’t mean it can’t(NOT saying you are that type of person but in dumbasses on RUclips). If the United States decides to just be a Florida man on the international playing field and feed themselves into the range of the df-17 then all I can say is “let karma do its thing”. The US should not be where it should not be, period.
I’m glad you think so.
air craft carrier aren't for taking out aircraft carriers at all, thats a job better suited missiles, china has several anti-aircraft carrier missiles, including 2 which are designed to be one hit to a kill, and the newest one covers at least 5000km, which is enough to reach guam.
Great way to make my day better
(I had the worst day of the week)
Just that all these aren't true,
Carrier 004 #19 is sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian long underway half build
All documents for nuclear-power was for carrier Not yet build!!!
carrier 005 #20 is nuclear-power
Also guaranteed by PLAN
Fujian is sailing boi.
Or were you refering to the 2 2nd-hand carriers of little-India?
Or the 2 carriers of the UK?
@@james_l4337 china is planning for a another carrier they are rivalrying with the usa and there for need better machines and war power this is just a stepping stone for what about be done
@taiwanstillisntacountry I was referring to no ship ;-;
Always love it when you show the shipyards or airfields. Keep it up.
You are forgetting to mention that molten salt reactors are working at a much higher temperature than PWRs, thus have a much lower thermal power for the same mechanical/electrical power, and so needing less radiation shielding. With not needing heavy pressure vessels these reactors are much smaller and lighter than those of the US flattops - a major advantage.
Earlier this years Det Norske Veritas approved the design of a very large container vessel for all year round traffic through the Arctic Ocean between Pacific ans Atlantic Oceans using a molten salt reactor.
America is in for a huge surprise
China is on the destination of the new world of Naval power.They will have 10 new aircraft Carriers by 2030.America beware..
You are no longer the superpower.
What if China builds 2nd 003 simultanously with a new nuclear carrier? They did overlaps like that with previous destroyers before they settled on 052d.
They could be, but basing off of the Chinese carrier building doctrine, the PLAN wanted to build 2 STOBAR carriers, two improved STOBARS of the same class(fujian sister ship), and then research and build nuclear carriers if needed. So they could very well be building a fujian sister ship and installing an experimental nuclear reactors, but that would mean a redesign of many things, but would lay down some foundational knowledge for building a nuclear carrier.
They are. The shipyard that built the Fujian is building another type 003, but also the type 004 is set to begin production soon.
@@92HazelMocha Are they building a second Fujian? And rumor is metal cutting for the 004 began as far back as 2017.
Perhaps you have a good source for this, I haven't been able to find much for the past year.
The American attitude is: "We will always be number 1. No one will EVER be able to compete against us. Never mind the fact that China now has a larger Surface Fleet and that the Chinese Fleet is being built to modern standards and the backbone US Navy's Fleet was built in the late 1980s". America's National Debt has destroyed it!
Thanks to Ronald Reagan for merging hundreds of defense companies into single digits lmao. Now we have the true military industrial complex, but with a slight monopoly.
Plus all the data and specs stolen or developed independently plus more educated stem grads. It's apparent that they are around the 2010s to early 2020s technology. As soon as countries cross that era. They can hope to challenge incumbents that have not moved in a long time.
Or whose decaying info structure and uneducated population will prove a drag to its national security or long term prosperity and innovation in the Long run.
China’s navy is less than half that of the US in terms of displace,ent. China,s debt to GDP is more than double that of the US. Stop the rubbish talk.
I tot indians already claimed they are numbawan😂
The 004 will probably be name “Taiwan “
Lol
No, many other better choices.
Then Taiwan would probably name their first carrier Beijing too!
Isn't Taiwan part of Fujian province?
@@dstr1Do it 😂
Every single hull class Aircraft Carrier is just a stepping stone,.
Until China announces the first multi hull AC class all these single class AC are just training ships for naval engineers, dock workers, navy sailors and pilots.
Whatever emerges, it will be very interesting. The PLAN is certainly developing their Carrier configurations very rapidly, and it could be possible for the earlier Carriers to be "upgraded" in view of the development lessons learned perhaps?
The Shanghai Jiangnan shipyard is said to be planning to use thorium MSR in future merchant ships. Not only are there less risks with an ambient pressure transfer cycle, the high temperature created by this reactor can us a CO2 transfer cycle with a C02 turbine instead of a steam turbine. The CO2 turbine is much smaller and takes up less space. MSR can remove contaminants and refuel online and do not need to be shut down like PWR systems. In 2025, China is said to start the construction of a 32mw thorium MSR. China already has proof of concept 2mw reactor running in the Gansu desert since late 2022. The big problem in the past has been the hastalloy metal used in the plumbing. It appears the Chinese have solved that problem because otherwise, they wouldn't attempt their full size 32mw reactor. This 32mw reactor moves the calendar up since originally the plan was to produce a industrial size reactor by 2030.
It could be the first nuclear carrier might be steam, but maybe the second a MSR system??? While China is constructing a naval uranium PWR. it may come down to seeing how it performs vs a thorium MSR to see which is best suited for China's nuclear fleet. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller ships use the thorium MSR and as Jiannan is planning for merchant ships.
If so, that would drive the US crazy, since they were the original inventors of the thorium MSR design. The US chose uranium reactors because the thorium MSR makes it difficult to produce nuclear bomb material. Some types of uranium PWR reactors produce plutonium. Japan for example has a non weaponization of its nuclear power plants so it sends the US its accumulated plutonium. China on the other hand has two 'fast' breeder reactors running to produce plutonium to catch up with Russia and the US so if there is a nuclear agreement to reduce their stockpiles, China doesn't end up on the short end of the stick in decreasing their stockpiles. Media reports say that China had some 400 nuclear weapons and their breeder reactors allows China to produce some 500 more each year.
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission.
China is building 6 more mega aircraft carriers….
The coolest part about the 004 model are all of the sponsons dedicated to various defense roles, IMO, the GRF Class should have more dedicated sponsons like this.
Great to see you got a sponsor!
Didn't they put out procurement for nuclear reactors from the Dalian shipyard? What else will you be procuring nuclear reactors if not for a nuclear powered carrier.
Yes it's for carrier there were plenty Video on that
But carrier that's Not yet build
Carrier 004 #19 is sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian
AND PLAN officially admitted long underway
It's already over half build inside huge sheds
Carrier 005 #20 is nuclear-power guaranteed just as shown
And it's Not yet build except its nuclear-power heart is building
Thus documents points to next carrier after carrier 004, it has to be carrier 005 #20 the nuclear-power carrier
Carrier 004 is conventional-power the deck design was reveal in Chinese videos, with nose longer for EMALS instead of like 003 was initially design for steam power launch
Carrier 004 definite has a chimney
All these Type outsider refer to is also totally wrong
a NP icebreaker could be built 1st to test reactors performance at sea before building a CVN.
@@james_l4337 Carrier 004 #19 could be a modified sister to carrier 003 #18 Fujian, a bigger CV with 4 cats & elevators for trials & training, before a NP CVN 20 is built.
@Steven-k8t that's what Video try to convince masses
However China already know thus
All these research were separate out tested
e.g. Thorium
Thorium woth molten salt reactors (mastered before 2021)
Normal nuclear plant with molten-salt etc.
Also one generator tested on land
It's long been done
As I suggested many times, Thorium reactors are safer, cheaper, lighter and easier to maintain.
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Yep, I support things that are fun and fact based, and not just propaganda based. Speculation that is fact based makes more sense than speculation that is propaganda and feelings based. Anyone who likes and supports watching china insights or whatever falungong type shit is a moron, period.
Rubbish. Let me know when China develops an actual “stealth” aircraft. J-20 is easily tracked by western radar. China’s space tech is based completely on Russian Soyuz technology that’s decades old. China has yet to launch an aircraft off of Fujian using EMALS.
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission. If the Fujian carried so many carrier-based aircraft, there would not be enough fuel storage space. On the other hand, this may mean that the Fujian needs to be a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to leave more space to deploy more carrier-based aircraft. A fully loaded Fujian can weigh over 80,000 tons, with electromagnetic catapults and all-electric propulsion. The Fujian can be a hybrid power. The Fujian can combine conventional and nuclear power. Those who are sour grapes can only talk empty words. When it comes to advanced science and technology, they are like blind men touching an elephant, which is purely the talk of an outsider. People who like to sour grapes are used to making wild remarks and talking big based on their own opinions. This is like looking at the world from a narrow perspective, which is not the right attitude for seeking knowledge and learning. No wonder they go further and further astray.
There is one issue with thorium reactors which is that since it uses molten salt, it corrodes the walls holding the salt, I'm not sure how exactly you fix that issue, apparently China has a test thorium reactor maybe they figured out something or else they still would need to cut the hull to remove the containers whenever it starts corroding
Exciting to hear the development! 🤩👌
我听说004型航空母叫，“广东号”。。。
Also heard it could be named that.
台湾号
Very cool and that concept design looks great.
Hey EurasiaNaval, do you know if the J15D electronic warfare fight is going to be deployed with the Fujian carrier?
I really happy after read comment under this video that American and European still look down on china. otherwise if they start take China seriously it will make it much harder for china to overcome both of them 🤫
欧美的工业已经完蛋了，产业基础进一步被冲垮，他们未来只会更艰难
Ich habe Gerüchte gehört das der Bau begonnen hat
Any satellite shots of the two in developments?
It's true the next nuclear powered carrier is Thorium powered may be molten salt reactor!
The next nuclear power is Not carrier 004 #19 because it's long long been under construction!
Since 2022 that means its design was completed when EMALS was chosen for carrier 003 #18 Fujian that's even earlier!!
Nuclear-power documents refer to the carrier NOT Yet under construction see model ship by shipyard #20
That's definite nuclear-power
Carrier 005 #20
Nothing else
This is as solid as it can get!
Whereas what's the island, control tower looks like?!?
Don't look at the artist!
Look at that model, that's it!!
Not sure about using a Thorium powered reactor given the numerous issues varioius nations have had in developing them. Lay people have been banging on about Thorium for ages yet, but they still haven't gotten one to produce the same amount of energy on a consistent basis as existing non-thorium designs.
If I was on the planning committee, I would recommend going with a tried and tested nuclear power plant for the first nuclear power carriers, and switch up to a Thorium powered reactor once the technology has been proven and matured. Till then, its would a bit too risky to go the Thorium route.
What does the problems of other countries have to do with China mastering the science? Would that be a first?
@@dstr1 Absolutely nothing, but has China mastered the technology yet? So far most thorium based reactor have been rather disappointing, overly complicated, and under producing when it came to power output.
Thorium does offer some advantages over Uranium based reactors, but the technology is still under development and not yet mature.
But mention thorium and people go nuts, as if it was the seconod coming of power generation. We even had hyped not long ago as "THE" near future fuel source for cars
In time, thorium reactors may become a viable and preferable ulternative to traditional nuclear reactors, but I don't that time has come yet.
Which is why I find it highly unlikely that the PLAN's first nuclear powered carrier will be using a thorium base reactor.
@gumpyoldbugger6944 China have few running Thorium molten-salt reactors prototype before 2020, she reveal these ~2021
By tgat time China already planned a civilian nuclear plant using Thorium Molten Salt it's under construction
& is reported by West media
@gumpyoldbugger6944 3 nations research on Thorium, US, then India last China
China entered last only ~1 decade she had break through
Jiangnan shipyard that builds her carriers have proposed
Jiangnan ship yard design & propose KUN-24AP atomic powered container ship, with Thorium nuclear reactors
Search KUN-24AP
This was when 2023
People will just wait & see it's likely out 2030+
It's not something to come out very quickly
Turn around time will be like conventional powered carrier very quick
Whereas Uranium is very toxic radioactive maintenance takes half year to over
Half old nuclear power carriers their life are sitting in dock
Not so with Thorium
the mockup has been dismantled to be modified for the Type 004 class carrier & put back together at the ground mockup facility . . . if you observe the mockup island of the Type 003 class it is made of marine grade steel & not bricks & concentrate as the building it's built on . . . the roof & the building itself is designed to mimic the flight deck of the Type 003 . . .
It is important to know which fleet it will be assigned to and where its home port will be. If you are mainly thinking about conserving it, then it should be assigned to the North Sea Fleet and its home port should be Port Arthur. If you want to use it actively, then it should be assigned to the East Sea Fleet and its home port should be Qingdao.
Port Arthur?
Where in China is that city?
Lvshun district of DaLian city, Liaoning province.
@taiwanstillisntacountry 就是旅顺口。
Thank you everyone for your kind comments. I am late in saying this, but I would like to correct my mistake and say that Port Arthur is actually "LUSHUN."
Lets say 5 years to build a carrier and 2 years sea trials. While on sea trails they work on the other carrier China can build 3 of these babies in 16 to 20 years. BUT what if both ship yards build up the carriers simultaneously 😱
Less time than that! Realistically the could build 3 in 10 years and stagger commission them
no, 2 ys to build & 1y to test & unduct, so by 2029 they'll have 4 carriers, 1 possibly a CVN. if 2 next CVNs r built simultaneously, by 2033 they'll have 6, 3-4 CVs + 2-3 CVNs, dep[ending on Type 004 being conventional or NP.
你们对中国海军造舰能力一无所知，尽管这是可以随意搜索到的内容
That's why Carrier 004 is Not nuclear-power
It's confirm already building official 2024
It's over half build in big sheds since 2022 design in solid form before that!
Nuclear procurement papers 2024 is for next carrier 005 #20 it's guarantee nuclear-power & Thorium no less
Unless PLAN wanted to be turtle go old turtle route Uranium
Doesn't make sense as China have no Uranium
While China already mastered Thorium molten-salt reactors prototype, it's under construction for real civilian use
ในอนาคตกองทัพเรือจีนมีศักยภาพที่สุดในโลก
🇹🇭💖🇨🇳👏
thorium ssbn fleet incoming!
Compared to the complexity of landing on the moon (front and back), returning moon rocks to Earth, landing on Mars and space stations, using miniaturized third-generation nuclear reactors on aircraft carriers and submarines is a piece of cake. The Linglong No. 1 nuclear reactor is a miniaturized version of a third-generation nuclear reactor, and its safety and power output have been certified by the International Atomic Energy Commission. If the Fujian carried so many carrier-based aircraft, there would not be enough fuel storage space. On the other hand, this may mean that the Fujian needs to be a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to leave more space to deploy more carrier-based aircraft. A fully loaded Fujian can weigh over 80,000 tons, with electromagnetic catapults and all-electric propulsion. The Fujian can be a hybrid power. The Fujian can combine conventional and nuclear power. Those who are sour grapes can only talk empty words. When it comes to advanced science and technology, they are like blind men touching an elephant, which is purely the talk of an outsider. People who like to sour grapes are used to making wild remarks and talking big based on their own opinions. This is like looking at the world from a narrow perspective, which is not the right attitude for seeking knowledge and learning. No wonder they go further and further astray.
What about a Type 004 with length of 350 m and displacement of 120,000 tonnes, intentionally to be slightly bigger and heavier than Gerald Ford to highlight that the US would be symbolically the #2 in a field so cared to the americans? 😆
PLA should make a trimaran supercarier class
First advertisement? 🎉
most Modern Warships players prefer using Type 004 than Type 003 because it has Bomber
Is it confirmed it will be nuclear now?
No never did only on foreign channel
China Chinese chinese channels always known its deck look like
Conventional power
004 is long under construction admitted 2024 by PLAN
~since 2022
And design approved even earlier
It's to work up the foolish
2024 nuclear power ship parts procurement is for next carrier 005 #20
Ship model was released by Jiangnan shipyard, that build carriers
Never changed
People wanted to believe their lies so they wanted tobbe fooled
Just eat whatever is handed out
Believe whatever they wanted to believe
UP主你要不要今天追加一期成飞6代机首飞，网上有图片有视频，随便凑凑可以吹一期
没有可信的图片流出，现在传出来的都是ps的图
没有真图，有真图早进入了。
There's lots of doubt about the authenticity of these images ostensibly of the 6th generation fighter
目前都是捕风捉影，等正式发布再说也不迟
FUNIEST Story !!!😁...in the word...
本月有消息说要试飞第六代战机原型机
達利安造船厰 ？太著名了
加油中国 🇨🇳
It will be name Taiwan 01.
All speculation. Even true, still years away.
长荣的船和航母一个船厂制造
considering how chinese didnt really like the number "4", this is kinda surprising
This is the PLA we are talking about, the Strongest defenders of materialism.
Just as the West doesn‘t like the number ”13“
@@tainechen1634 ...and secularism
@@tainechen1634 why is that?
@@tainechen1634 defenders of only revisionist materialism.
are carriers useful at all anymore? awful big target...
😮😮😮
Type 004 will be named the "Anchor"....
Veran medium carrier project from Russia which is obviously dead more interesting than pointless 100k tonne carrier. Same with Chinese type 76 carrier/lphd..
Lots of PRC trolls in here.
Wait a minute. We haven't even finished building the Ford class, and China is already making carriers just as big? Perhaps Doris Miller should be cancelled and new design made that is 50% bigger. Chinese carriers are going to be operating near their home port. US carriers need to be operating far from home. We need a clear advantage.
Does the USN even have a dry dock that could take a carrier that is 50% larger than the Fords? Plus, would such a carrier be able to fit through the Panama Canal? And where are you planning on building such a monster? The US is having enough trouble trying to find enough qualified tradesmen to build its new class of Frigates.
Sometimes bigger is not always better. Having perhaps a few smaller carriers in greater numbers would be better then a single super Ford class.
There was a time when we didn't have to chave our navy active away from our shores, now we do. I suppose it may be pointing to the future plans if China to operate away from their shores too !!
@@gumpyoldbugger6944 none of the USN CV/Ns could/can fit through the Panama Canal, that's why they sail around Cape Horn or around the world after their deplyments oveseas to change homeport or go to shipyard for refueling/overhaul.
Pov defense contractors laughing at this comment because a new contract could turn them and their stockholders rich overnight.
China is now ahead of modern technology compare to uSA & the west.
Rubbish! But keep thinking that.
Whenever I watch videos about aircraft carriers I always think about dinosaurs. Even if the USA has the best aircraft carriers they still didn’t dare go in range of Iran’s hypersonic cruise missile. Now Russia has used an “oreshnik” with a much longer range. Eventually the USA will stop being so rubbish and e able to fire an installable missile at something so big and lacking in nimble movement as a carrier. A small craft could be alerted to a missile launch and turn a bit but with something that big or so slow to control I’d bet you could hit part of it even with a time gap between obtaining satellite images and impact. Maybe if the satellite was blown up but USA uses satellites for warning about nuclear ICBM so by that point you’re already talking nuclear war. I don’t see the point of aircraft carriers in 2024/5. They are just targets.
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Jai hind 💪
Jai be-Hind China forever.
🏳️1962🏳️
Remember 1962?
Go eat a samosa B 😂😂😂
Let’s hope it doesn’t sink while still in port
Nobody knows if it will or not! Do you think it will and why do you think that way?
This is no Indian vessels
Oh stop with the ai voice over shit. I'm out. Too lazy to make own voice video then don't post
Even a blind guy can tell that this is a copy of tejas
So when will little-India replace China as factory of the world?
Mumbai-Dharavi numba-1
🏳️1962🏳️
Tejas, arjunk tanks and kowtowing aircraft carrier are all dead upon delivery 😅 India can't even make their own jet engine.
Look jealousing and frustrated 😁. Teajar can't find their engine.
Better remember to turn off your notifications and claim your money from the CIA and Indian government!!
Bad video, speculation
If all past speculations have over 90% accuracy, you better think it's real
little-India claimed to be a superpower in 2020
His guess is astonishingly accurate. At present, it seems that everything has been achieved.
What are your speculation?😁
Correct, it is speculation, but some speculation, like OP’s, is based on known facts and images. Other speculation is based off of pure emotions and propaganda. Which side do you stand, or do you just hate speculation in general. If you hate speculation in general then just don’t watch the videos in general.
🇺🇸🤝🇮🇳>>>>>>>>>>>>🇨🇳+universe
🏳️1962🏳️
Lmao, learn to shit in toilets first
India isn't USA ally lol
Even you are allied, we can beat both of you as 1962
POV breath300: writes pro US and India comment, then immediately goes to his settings to turn notifications for RUclips off 😂😂😂😂😂
我看了建造的空拍圖，鑑島比3D模型還要靠後，應該是核動力。規則書裡寫了要求4條彈射道。 另外我看到有新的視頻，中國六代機已經試飛，有人拍到的，你可以找找看。據說是3台發動機（2個渦輪，1個爆震），無尾翼
这是反黑吗？“據說是3台發動機（2個渦輪，1個爆震），無尾翼” 搞3台发动机的6代机？
@@qinglinzhang7328 Yes, earlier I saw that the model had three engines, but I still didn't believe it. I saw it yesterday, it's three engines in a horizontal configuration.
那个是ps的图
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