IMPROVED Could US B-21 Raider Defend Itself From Hostile Fighters? (WarGames 185b) | DCS
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Original Battle: • Could US Stealth 6th G...
We look at speculation that the US's latest stealth aircraft, the 6th Generation B-21 Raider could defend itself from hostile fighters using air to air AESA radar and modern AIM-260 JATM missiles.
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0:24 Viewer Complaints
2:01 Scenario Details
6:05 Predictions
7:11 Battle
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Original Battle: ruclips.net/video/k94_bpxM91g/видео.html
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I always appreciate how GR tends to generate almost as much chaos as actual war.
I like how the camera got to linger on "THE PEOPLES CHAMP" love that for simba wimba
That camo on the B21 is freaking Epic❤
yay!
That AI glitch on the enemy base is par for the course. I ran a large carrier mission and the Tomcats on the deck kept running into each other trying to get to the catapults. One even got in the takeoff path and both exploded. Both pilots ejected and landed on the deck. It was actually cool to watch, but not good for a mission. I had to set up trigger zones to spawn in the Tom's one group at a time. All the new shiny toys DCS is giving us is nice, but I would rather they hold off on all future releases and put all their efforts into rewriting the AI system. A solid foundation for your house is more important than what color to paint it.
You do indeed know my pain!
@@grimreapers YES! And the real kicker is you may run it 5 times and it is flawless. That sixth time is a dumpster fire. No way to predict what is going to fail and when. As a mission creator, you have a cross to bear that would cause the weak to gargle Drano!
Hi Fly!!! Good to have you in a video!
*WAITER! There’s a Fly in my video!!*
❤❤😂😂😂😂😂
Loved this one.. GR making landings more entertaining than the rest of the mission!
GR landings is always a gamble...
@@grimreapersGR landings, best landings?
You actually should do the “destroy the defected B21” mission.
Hey SuperCap, B21 paint job is awesome
yay! A fellow camo lover!
How possible would this hypothetical scenario be. A wasp class or America class amphibious assault ship with F-35Bs against the Admiral Kuznetsov. Whatever compliment of ships you choose.
Absolutely possible.
@@grimreapersawesome!
Realistically? It wouldn't be very exciting. By the time the Marine pilots arrive, the Kuznetov will be under tow back to port.
@@MWSin1By the time they launch F-35B’s, the kuznetsov would explode
Egyptian jets are not allowed to be based on Sinai, so they'll be based west of the canal. also I doubt they are allowed to place Sams in the peninsula. All of it must be west of the canal. Israel allowed some AH64 for COIN aginst ISIS. Great mission, loved it. Good to have the old team together again, where is Violet??
We do have some f16s in Sinai with ground strike capability but limited air to air and some air defence batteries, but yes, our more capable fighters like the Rafale and Mig35 are in west of the canal protected by the missile wall
Per Cap, Violet now plays Arma3 instead.
Watching the latest👍🏻.
Great to hear Fly is on🤪
I would think the B-21's would attack at night and alone....
100%, but boring vid.
That was a real blast. Cheered me up after a hellish week. Thanks, guys!
Hi Fly!
hi 😀
"The Peoples Champ" LOL LUV IT! Good job Fly :)
Thanks, it’s simba , he asked me and it was me a Honer to do it 😃
I didn't complain about the first vid so i'll complain now if i may. My complaint is.......Where was General Gordon ? Stuck in Khartoum having tea with Peter O'Toole ?
Absolutely fair complaint. Will address in next re-run.
Watching till the end and seeing pooch try to take off wingless made me rofl
Someone watched till the end! You get a prize.
Cap... I watch *listen to your videos every night! They help me sleep! Please don't take that the wrong way!! But I absolutely love your vids and can't live without them! Don't stop being you and what you do!
Egypt may have over 200 F-16s but how many are actually operational and ready to go? I suspect a small percentage. What about available armaments as well? A warplane without weapons is not much use in war and I doubt Egypt has huge stockpiles of F-16 munitions in good order and ready to load.
@Cap: With Air Defense Saturation being so key, I can't help but think we can expect more saturation dispersal of the (ADM-160, MALD-J) drone decoys from: F-15, and C-17 "Rapid Dragon" type assets. Wing kit, JDAM-ERs may also offer some options...Thanks for all the hard work...
Your pronunciation of the exclamation point at the end of the complaints is HILARIOUS 🤣🤣
@Simba all cocky in his new livery 😂
Good idea! Make it a part two for sure for the defected plane.
You guys are doing a great job. Thanks for the entertainment! I have a complaint and a request if that's ok.
I don't understand the point of the 4th gen aircraft. We would never run the B21 with 4th gen. It defeats the whole purpose of the Raider's stealth.
Also, can you upgrade the F-15EX to be as powerful as the new video from Sandboxx news suggests? It's the same theory that applies to the F-35 and why the F-35 is more maneuverable than standard fighter jets like the F-16 and F-18.
Yea, I didn't realize they could pull so many Gs.
1) the humans want to fly 4th gen planes, can't force them to fly 5th gen.
2) I will try.
Makes sense. You're the best! Thanks!
Yes gen 4 flyingy with the B21 is just highlighting that their is a force coming and they will discover the stealth planes, really stupid
@@MRAWESOME22why wouldn't it? It's an F-15C on steroids. Better engines, better materials, better TW ratio, better everything. It's a full package upgrade that can also carry "f*ck everything in that direction" loads of weapons.
Fly sounds like a very interesting fellow.
Oh , thanks man 😊
I know it would be a bit overpowered, but I would like to see a US Gen5/6 attack on a mainly Gen 4/5 force. B-21(primary strike), F-22(escort and top cover), and F-35 (SEAD and secondary escort fighter).
Every one is sick but Cap sounds healthy. It's a Christmas miracle. I kind of hear some cracks in your voice. Hope all feels better i got a lot of sick people around me as well.
Yes it is indeed a miracle.
Wow, GR completed a mission and nobody crashed on takeoff or landing! Is this a first?
believe it may be...
There is zero question those Patriot batteries would not be functional against the US's own assets. It's our equipment we could definitely disable it.
I think your radar cross section for the B-21 is very conservative. Flying wings are inherently better for radar cross section then fighter aircraft. The Air Force has stated for years the B-21 radar cross-section will be an order of magnitude lower than the F-22 or F-35. Remember it's supposed to have an entirely new generation of radar absorbing materials.
I guess we'll see. Thanks for the vid!
Did the patriot system target US jets during desert storm
@@realseif4759it locked a few of our jets sure, but never fired on them because of programming.
Plus, I don't doubt that EVERYTHING the U.S. sells to foreign nations has a kill switch built into it, so we can disable the weapons systems if they are ever used against us
@@realseif4759 those were first gen systems and we weren't actively jamming them, that's called friendly fire. If we were fighting against them we would have been jamming them.
@@140theguy makes sense. Also if two American jets from deferent (hostile) countries try to shoot missiles at each other, can either side prevent the other from locking him?
That B-21 invented the aviation equivalent of tea bagging.
Egypt also has Rafales with meteors.
Yay! Fly! FlyByWire
yeah Finaly had some time Again
@@FlybywireTheGerman Good to see and hear you back, Fly. Your laughter always makes me grin.
@@exidy-yt yea his presence and attitude always bring me joy. Always happy when he has time to partake.
Imagine the B-21 with an anti-missile 360 gun
The fact that Egypt has the f-16c and is still using the aim-7 is kinda crazy like why don’t they have the aim-120
Israel applied their massive control over the American government and banned their sale.
The US doesn't give us advanced missiles or fighters like the f15 because of our pussy neighbours in the east
Money
NATO does not allow the sale of Aim-120 to Egypt.
Not allowed to get amarams
The new paint scheme is awesome
Thank I do my best😅
I've been cooking my dinner while watching, Cap.
I had to cook my own dinner tonight also.
@@grimreapers Oh I do all the cooking in my house. I like cooking, it lets me play with FIRE
Of course the GR paint scheme has a purple tip. I wouldn't have it any other way.
GR is GR and wenn I started with the F-15 of cap he sad to me quote,, make it flamboyant,, so 😂😂😂 Fly did a thing
“Today we have a new war game: B-21 against….complaining viewers!”
Is Simba Wimba really Kevin Sussman aka Stuart from Big Bang Theory? Sure sounds like him.
It would be funny if you can break a vertical stabilizer off with your canopy.
The B-21 Raiders likely will only going to be carry a few air-air missiles to do just that protect itself in worse cases scenario, so think more bombs with only probably 4-6 self defense missiles and of course there'll be times where they only carry bombs lol however that would defeat the purpose of what your doing ;)
My point is they're not going to be used as Missile Trucks however have the capability to protect itself while bombing✌
NGAD VS -- First grids, ST-21's with AIM-152 GDW's, and YF-23's! Second grids, F-15EX's, and HAVE GLASS F-16's! Last grid, YF-12A's with AIM-260's, B-1R's, and Chrome F-22's! This request would be more like the one against the Russians!🙏👍
Egypt would use Mirage 2000 for fast interception, and then Rafale in the back if really needed (both planes are not located in the Sinaï though so would take time to arrive); Egyptian Rafales do not carry meteor missiles (France did not sell them at the request of Israel) but still have good MICA missiles.
Egypt should start receiving the meteor missiles next year for the latest batch of rafales
I have not seen that info. Egypt is certainly asking for them but I have not seen any deal agreed, and same is true for their request for Typhoons with meteors@@realseif4759
@@VoltaireVoltaire-zq4zhthe rafales we get in 2015 were the f3 version which didn't have the meteors, also America pressured france to not give Egypt the meteors or the scalp cruse missiles. However france did change the American components in the scalps with french ones gave us about 75 of them. I don't think we will get the Eurofigher, since it was used as a pressure card to allow france to provide with the more advanced f3r or the f4 variants which can use the meteors and if they didn't want, the typhoons ( with meteors) were on the table.
Yes I was aware for the SCALP; latest F3 versions do have meteors; to my knowledge (I can be wrong) the new batch does not come with meteors though@@realseif4759
I'd have flown, Cap! Wish I woulda known!!
It's too bad DCS doens't simulate EA assets like the Growler, Compass Call, ect, because it is such a vital part of evvery major U.S. airstrike for the last 40+ years.
I doubt it will ever be a part of DCS. I'm quite happy TBH, it's already hard enough to set these up and get them working. Can you imagine the added complexity of area jamming?
What Cap said, and….DCS is built on honest depictions. _Accurately_ modeling EA would be a computational nightmare, and would be _at least_ 20 years out of date in any case. And EA adds no fun to the human involvement, so drawing people in would be harder.
That said, extensions (or whatever they are called) to DCS to simply guess at the percentage of faults that would result from EA is perhaps something one could add. So, for instance, half of missiles incident upon a B21 could be misdirected, without any reference to the actual means of misdirection other than “EA”. Since I’m not a player, I don’t know if DCS must approve of such variations for someone to season the software for interested players.
Instead of a 10 degree angle of attack, you could do a Thatch Weave.
I dont care what others say, those cameos are GORGEOUS.
Look at 16.08 birds join the game on Egypt side and driving plane through a field.
Nice. Is it possible to do attack on naval instalations (shipping, fuel dumps etc) on Russian naval bases from airfields in Japan?
I missed the token "Cherman"
"thats what happens when you get 2flight hours a month" 😂😂😂😂
Don't know if anyone has talked about this before, but is there a way to make comms more realistic by making only one person can talk at once? Obviously Cap would still do narration on top of radio comms.
Yeh we use proper radio calls in our big missions, but the wargames etc we leave it loose to promote humour.
Yep
The mirkin strikes back
You have to run one of these these missions where all the alert pilots are debuffed because of COVID.
Question: can you refuel at a really low altitude?
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@@grimreaperscool. You should incorporate that into a future mission
7:10 couldn't help ai with sead?
The Solar Hole is bombarding you in AUS for sure, and the rest of us too. Staying indoors is a good idea if you can.
I think America could easily use B-21 as a modern BVR missile bus quite easily
Could you do a hypothetical B-1r or B-21 strike into Iran you pick target. And you choose fighter escort. Not sure where you would start from tho. Italy or Spain🤷♂️
What’s the utility of B21 here? Forward positioned plane grabbing all enemy aircraft? Wouldn’t be B21 more effective as stealth bomber?
What camo are the f16s?
F-16 take of order ; 1. F-16 Simba ( made By Me ) 2 . F-16 Splitter Camo ( Made by ED ) 3. F-16 Viking Flybywire ( Made by me) . and than F15E 1. Cap The Boss and 2. F-15E Simba THE People Champ ( Both by me) 😁
@@FlybywireTheGerman Nice to see ze German.
@@FlybywireTheGerman
Awesome Fly! Did you fly for the Luftwaffe?
@@samuellord8576 ne , im a normal every day guy ( for how knows that one still ), I’m just into planes from the beginning. Funny thing my dad still say my very first word was ,,pella,, I ment Propeller , and sins than I’m into aviation specially military, and do now dcs for 8 or 9 years 😁
@@FlybywireTheGerman Wonderful! My story is similar, though I flew hang gliders for a while. Thank you for greatly adding to our enjoyment of these videos, your delight in flying is infectious. Auf wiedersehen!
The People's Champ.... awesome
I thought we can intimate the Enemy already if they now how is flying 😂
Our cost would have been cheaper without dumping the extra harms…that should come out of somebody’s check
Lmao Poosh..."That's what happens when you get two flight hours a month"
Fair point?
Who said b-21 isn't enough is ngong-ngong dumb 😂
FLY IS BACK 😎😎😎😎😎
it doesn't get dark in DCS ? B21 much more effective at night . Just Sayin . Why fly observables next to stealth on approach ?
Hey fly, how goes it? 😂😂
Well , Pool season is endet so I still work most Time wenn wargames are made but sometimes I got luck and make it 😂
@@FlybywireTheGerman Great to hear you again. I'd say see, but I only get to see what you're flying.
Almost the first comment… At least I’m still a valued viewer.
Yes, yes you are.
Don’t ever use purple rain colors again!
2 flying hours a month. Lmfao
Very end proves the fat electrician is right. The f15 is a rocket, not a plane😂😂😂😂
This mission made no sense.
Why did the AI become so stupid? I mean even 90's games had far better AI, heck DID's F-22 ADF had full awacs mode and it was brilliant, but even from the same family, Flanker, LOMAC and FC2 had decent AI. Never had any problem in any of these games AI going stupid and landing at enemy airfield or trying for dogfight without a gun. How could they mess it up this much?
i feel disappointed how little you think egyptian pilots are skilled, and why didn’t they have any flares??
So much for "improved"
Just sayin'
We completed it didn't we?!
@@grimreapers If you want to mil-sim, for example, enemy pilots stupid enough to taxi across a field and crash into a fence on the way to the runway, sure. Or the SAMs didn't shoot down AMRAAMs, sure. You may have improved B-21s, but other things were broken.
Get this simulations' assets and AI to work correctly and play it again.
@@BarbosaUralyou realize Cap didn’t make the game right? Go fix your attitude and try again