1987, 35 years ago, when the average IQ of people that used computers was substantially higher than it is today. All on a megabyte of ram, and no internet, extraordinary.
Interesting how things have changed. The Internet and BBSes before it were originally all about openness, sharing, and had an etiquette where people didn't "flame" or "troll" others. People still don't do that but instead it seems they lack the intelligence to realize they sound, act, and think like the trolls of the past. Heck, even the trolls back in the day were intelligent and doing what they did for fun instead of doing it as a reaction to their brainwashed ways.
I wish I still had my animations I created on an Amiga 500 computer. I had taken a computer graphics course for Art back in 1988. I saved those animations for about twenty years until I finally tossed them out. Amazing how far computers’ graphics have come since then.
Hi Gravity King, well, that's too bad, but believe it or not, they are still available today on eBay (around $490. with software) so maybe put it on your Christmas list. : ) ~
What amaze me more is for doing the same stuff you need a super computer nowedays... Nice graphics in current world but at a much higher hardware demand compared to the beginning.
My Amiga 1000 introduced me to 3D modeling in color with Sculpt-Animate 4D. That was mind-blowing in the mid eighties. PC's and Macs were way behind. I still do 3D modeling today and print my models on a Prusa. Fond memories !
Imagine dropping in a current gaming rig with a 13900k, RTX 4090, SSD and 128GB of ram with Adobe suite pre-installed in the year 1987. People would lose their mind and swear its alien technology lol.
I remember Computer Chronicles once showed off this massive special built computer - think from SGI - that could do all kinds of video effects in a few minutes. They talked about how that stuff used to require special equipment and TV stations would outsource the work because they couldn't afford the equipment. Then a few years later they showed off an Amiga and did VFX that looked even better. It's still impressive what those machines can achieve with very little hardware, even if it can't compare to today's photorealistic 3D capability in most home computers
My issue with Computer Chronicles was they looked down on the AMIGA in favour of PC/Mac... there was always a bit of a condescending angle, which annoyed me slightly. Possibly to do with price.. Not sure.
I still have four fully working Amigas - an A-1000, two A-2000s & an A-3000. Sadly, I don't have an A-500 -- I had one back in the 80s & practically wore it out. 👍🙂
We used almost same setup. 3x betacam/sony dfs-500/amiga 1200 with 68030+lots of ram. Amiga used for titling, subtitles and several other things. Its size was a serious advantage as editing tables dont have too much space. There is another thing, Amiga OS had zero lag. In those times a single frame drop cost hours.
When I went over to PC in about 1991 my mum sold the Amiga 500 and my entire disk box collection of games and everything else. Would love to have that back now.
I love videos like this. I'm impressed on what you could do productivly on machines like this, that are primarily (but inacuratly) remembered as gaming machines. "Titanic" was made on an Amiga!
Sorry but that is incorrect. The CGI from Titanic was made by Silicon Graphics workstations, much more powerful at that time than any AMIGA that have ever existed.
@@ivanocj The channel "Retro Recipes" found original footage from that movie on a A4000 that was used in that production. I should've specified the model in my original comment.
That is what eveyone talked about. Amiga and the OS were a multi taskig, distributed independent chips powered multimedia platforms. The crazy thing: Miner said what he had in mind was considerably higher specs. Commodore simply couldn't manage it. I always wonder Steve Jobs opinion about Amiga getting wasted. Mac for him ended in 1985,he was already thinking about tomorrow.
I still have a working Amiga 4000 with a Video Toaster/Flyer system and two TBCs. Amazing broadcast quality video production in it's day. I also had an A500 at home for the kids to play games.
Wish i had never sold my Amiga-500 when i was 17 years old.... I have one now though, but it was not my first one my parents bought me then.... It was the 500+. So much good memories of it.
This was my first home computer. As animation was my passion I had to extend the meager memory but eventually managed to use New Tek's Lightwave 3D softwate.The effects in theTV series Babylon 5 were made on the Amiga. Great but so slow to render! Happy days.
I still own the original Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 and play them 😺👍🕹️🕹️. I even have the Commodore 64 games on the tapes and disks and only one cartridge, INTERNATIONAL SOCCER 😺👍🕹️. COMMODORE 64 AND AMIGA FOREVER 😺👍🕹️!
Now you have Blackmagic Designed DaVinci Resolve 18. It's amazing how far humans have progressed. I always enjoy these history videos. Thanks for the look back.
@@flogjam "PC" as in "personal computer" which was simply a general category of consumer and small business computers vs. mainframes and mini computers back in the day, long before it came to be associated mainly with DOS machines. So, yes, the Amiga was a PC.
@@jakeperl5857 it wasn't at the time. In the time of Microcomputers, Minicomputers, PC's, Mainframes, Workstations, Terminals, Home Computer's. They were all their own category. The Amiga was never a PC unless you installed a PC bridgeboard/emulator card into it. GVP made one for the 500 and various others were available for big box Amigas. Commodore did make PC'S too and ultimately this was their undoing as they diverted money away from Amiga R&D. The A2000 case was a reused design from a Commodore PC. To call an Amiga a PC is insulting. Would you call an Atari ST or Acorn Archimedies or Apple Macintosh a PC? 😄
@@flogjam They were, are and always will be a type of PC, personal computer. Yes, IBMs started being referred to as simply 'PCs' but it was not so common until the 90s. I remember PC being used for home computers in general more than 'microcomputer'.
Clip art graphics!?!? I remember when I found the clip art collection in Microsoft Word. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Only thing to top it was when I found the Wingdings font.
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The plan was to have something like Apple 2 card. Classic Amiga running virtually while the NEW Amiga runs PA-RISC HP CPU with 3d supporting highend graphics. Or to produce such a card for PC. The thieves spent money for leisure and came up with "300" scandal which was labelled 600.
for my confirmation i got a amiga 500 AND a foking monitor! and my sisters friend got me a whole box of floppies full of pirate games! one of the best days in my life!
showing a500 and kinda tell a2000 xD thats reason not say price. if i would know these when i have first amiga(still have) they sold me a500 for workbemch and games nothing talked replacing studio equipments lol
Commodore made a MASSIVE mistake not having Composite OUT right on the A500. They had a Black and white one...and required the RF modulator wich had disgusting output compared to the previous A1000. But even later on the A600 when Sony Had invented Trinitron or someking of almost S-Video quality Composite OUT...Commodore never adapted it. So composite on an A600 although way better than an A500 still looked subpar. It wasn't until the CD32 that S-Video was added and looked superb. However if you ahd a SuperGen SX which had S-Video OUT you were good. But those were expensive as hell when released.
Every Amiga has a RGB Port. This is the only way to get an incredible sharp picture. You need this for a Genlock. With composite the edges would be flickering. You can use a simple RGB to Scart cable for Best picture quality on your TV.
@@MrTatica1973 You don't get the point: Should anyone have to shell out more money for a Sega Genesis/Nintendo to add Composite that should already be on there? also it prevents software developers from Supporting something the Amiga doesn't have.
Static pictures using HAM can display UP TO 4096 colors, no animation. I mean you could animate in HAM, but it may not look good do to HAM fringing effect.
You can update palette registers in horizontal blanks, so 32 colors per line, not screen. Even less capable Atari ST can show all its 512 colors, at once on the screen.
You could also display 64 colours in extra half bright mode which gave you a second palette of 32 colours half as bright as the first 32 colour palette hence the name EHB
I had an amiga500 in 1987...it is now 2023 and i have 3 of them..my childhood never left me..long live the commodore amiga.
1987, 35 years ago, when the average IQ of people that used computers was substantially higher than it is today. All on a megabyte of ram, and no internet, extraordinary.
Interesting how things have changed.
The Internet and BBSes before it were originally all about openness, sharing, and had an etiquette where people didn't "flame" or "troll" others.
People still don't do that but instead it seems they lack the intelligence to realize they sound, act, and think like the trolls of the past.
Heck, even the trolls back in the day were intelligent and doing what they did for fun instead of doing it as a reaction to their brainwashed ways.
I wish I still had my animations I created on an Amiga 500 computer. I had taken a computer graphics course for Art back in 1988. I saved those animations for about twenty years until I finally tossed them out. Amazing how far computers’ graphics have come since then.
Hi Gravity King, well, that's too bad, but believe it or not, they are still available today on eBay (around $490. with software) so maybe put it on your Christmas list. : ) ~
What amaze me more is for doing the same stuff you need a super computer nowedays...
Nice graphics in current world but at a much higher hardware demand compared to the beginning.
My Amiga 1000 introduced me to 3D modeling in color with Sculpt-Animate 4D. That was mind-blowing in the mid eighties. PC's and Macs were way behind. I still do 3D modeling today and print my models on a Prusa. Fond memories !
The Amiga was way ahead of it's time back then.
I used to spent all day on Deluxe Paint II
It was one of those pieces of software that really did reward you for putting the effort in.
Imagine dropping in a current gaming rig with a 13900k, RTX 4090, SSD and 128GB of ram with Adobe suite pre-installed in the year 1987. People would lose their mind and swear its alien technology lol.
Boy didn't I churn out tracks using OctaMed on one of these in the early 90's. Fun memories.
4096 colors is more than anyone will ever need!
Being a 3d developer... this video is gold to me.
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Had some amazing games this machine. It introduced me to my very first dungeon crawler Dungeon Master. The A500 was way ahead of its time.
I remember Computer Chronicles once showed off this massive special built computer - think from SGI - that could do all kinds of video effects in a few minutes. They talked about how that stuff used to require special equipment and TV stations would outsource the work because they couldn't afford the equipment. Then a few years later they showed off an Amiga and did VFX that looked even better. It's still impressive what those machines can achieve with very little hardware, even if it can't compare to today's photorealistic 3D capability in most home computers
Yes, pretty amazing machines. There are a few on eBay, still working too!
I loved PBS' Computer Chronicles! What the fudge happened to them??
@@JohnAranita the last episode was aired in 2002, but you can watch most episodes on the Internet Archive and on RUclips.
My issue with Computer Chronicles was they looked down on the AMIGA in favour of PC/Mac... there was always a bit of a condescending angle, which annoyed me slightly. Possibly to do with price.. Not sure.
I have seen the same thing too but Kildall mostly spoke bad about the management of Commodore and Amiga. Selling them in toy stores etc. @@flogjam
I still have four fully working Amigas - an A-1000, two A-2000s & an A-3000. Sadly, I don't have an A-500 -- I had one back in the 80s & practically wore it out. 👍🙂
My older brother had an Amiga 500. It was a great machine, very enjoyable to use.
We used almost same setup. 3x betacam/sony dfs-500/amiga 1200 with 68030+lots of ram. Amiga used for titling, subtitles and several other things. Its size was a serious advantage as editing tables dont have too much space. There is another thing, Amiga OS had zero lag. In those times a single frame drop cost hours.
AMIGA,computer glorioso e intramontabile!.grazie per la condivisione
This computer paid for itself so many time over!
When I went over to PC in about 1991 my mum sold the Amiga 500 and my entire disk box collection of games and everything else. Would love to have that back now.
I love videos like this. I'm impressed on what you could do productivly on machines like this, that are primarily (but inacuratly) remembered as gaming machines. "Titanic" was made on an Amiga!
Sorry but that is incorrect. The CGI from Titanic was made by Silicon Graphics workstations, much more powerful at that time than any AMIGA that have ever existed.
@@ivanocj The channel "Retro Recipes" found original footage from that movie on a A4000 that was used in that production. I should've specified the model in my original comment.
That is what eveyone talked about. Amiga and the OS were a multi taskig, distributed independent chips powered multimedia platforms. The crazy thing: Miner said what he had in mind was considerably higher specs. Commodore simply couldn't manage it. I always wonder Steve Jobs opinion about Amiga getting wasted. Mac for him ended in 1985,he was already thinking about tomorrow.
Ah.. Cannon Fodder, & Sensible Soccer.. Good old times! Memories.. 🙂
Yes my friend..
Good old times,for me is: Lotus Turbo Challenge 2( intro music!)
I still have a working Amiga 4000 with a Video Toaster/Flyer system and two TBCs. Amazing broadcast quality video production in it's day. I also had an A500 at home for the kids to play games.
Wish i had never sold my Amiga-500 when i was 17 years old.... I have one now though, but it was not my first one my parents bought me then.... It was the 500+. So much good memories of it.
07:06 "... Be warned! Complex 3D animation requires lots of memory, often more than a megabyte. ..."
This was my first home computer. As animation was my passion I had to extend the meager memory but eventually managed to use New Tek's Lightwave 3D softwate.The effects in theTV series Babylon 5 were made on the Amiga. Great but so slow to render! Happy days.
I still own the original Commodore 64 and
Amiga 500 and play them 😺👍🕹️🕹️.
I even have the Commodore 64 games on
the tapes and disks and only one cartridge, INTERNATIONAL SOCCER 😺👍🕹️.
COMMODORE 64 AND AMIGA FOREVER 😺👍🕹️!
Now you have Blackmagic Designed DaVinci Resolve 18. It's amazing how far humans have progressed. I always enjoy these history videos. Thanks for the look back.
It can be said that the AMIGA 500 marked the beginning of a new era in personal computers.
I always wanted one when I was young.
"Anaconda" (1997) has digital effects made with one of those computers due to the lack of a sturdy budget
Amazing computer Amiga 500
Yes, thank you
This was my first PC and man, the graphics that seem like a joke now sure looked good back in '88 Lol! Spent most of my time with Deluxe Paint III.
I bet it brings back some good memories! Yes, those graphics used to be a hot thing when they were first introduced!
it was not a PC!
@@flogjam "PC" as in "personal computer" which was simply a general category of consumer and small business computers vs. mainframes and mini computers back in the day, long before it came to be associated mainly with DOS machines. So, yes, the Amiga was a PC.
@@jakeperl5857 it wasn't at the time. In the time of Microcomputers, Minicomputers, PC's, Mainframes, Workstations, Terminals, Home Computer's. They were all their own category. The Amiga was never a PC unless you installed a PC bridgeboard/emulator card into it. GVP made one for the 500 and various others were available for big box Amigas. Commodore did make PC'S too and ultimately this was their undoing as they diverted money away from Amiga R&D. The A2000 case was a reused design from a Commodore PC. To call an Amiga a PC is insulting. Would you call an Atari ST or Acorn Archimedies or Apple Macintosh a PC? 😄
@@flogjam They were, are and always will be a type of PC, personal computer. Yes, IBMs started being referred to as simply 'PCs' but it was not so common until the 90s. I remember PC being used for home computers in general more than 'microcomputer'.
I want that reel to reel in the background.
Clip art graphics!?!?
I remember when I found the clip art collection in Microsoft Word. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Only thing to top it was when I found the Wingdings font.
Sensible soccer and championship manager.....God I loved those days.
commodore amgia so cool
WOW! The future really is near ^-^
The presenter did a great job considering the 20mg of Xanax was really starting to kick in.
I want that modem he downloaded Peeled from it.
I just realised I am dressed exactly like the presenter.
I had one, and a Sinclair Z81 hitech stuff in the eighties I wish I saved them. In 35 years from today, how many still have a iPhone saved 😀
Hi Hugo, good question. Probably not too many. ~
C64 and Amiga 500 on board in 2022 ;)
Excellent.
"the animation needs 1 MB memory" you have been warned. One of my 16 GB RAM bar was popping out the slot because of laughing 😉
those were the days
1 MB was monstrous though, coming from a Commodore 64.
to quote Bill Gates: "why would anyone need any more than 640k"
@@oldtwinsna8347 i also had C64 then went to Amiga with 1mb ram and whopping 20 mb hard drive
Were title of all of those movies really done on an Amiga 500? I remember watching Three Men & A Baby on VHS back in the late 1980s.
imagine we're watching this in 1989
My girlfriend in the 80s bought one of these. I bought her a a commodore SX for her birthday… she broke up with me shortly after. Ha ha.
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Atari 2600 > Atari 400/800 > Commodore Amiga, thanks in large part to the late, great Jay Miner.
Architecturally, the Amiga is in many ways a 16bit 800. Copper lists = Display lists etc
@@iainlaskey7285 There is some "cross pollination" , for sure. Ironic, how it turned out, with the ST though....
MY 3 LOVE (FİRST Tİ994A) ( c-64 ) (AMİGA500)
The host reminds me of @Dustin Abbot
@Corridor needs to check this out
More than a MEGABYTE... ow wow
Muy buena.
Wow
How is the reaction in that time if you let them see Adobe Aftereffects :)
A mixture of DaVinci Resolve, Black Magic hardware, and Radeon Graphics, is what Commodore should have become.
The plan was to have something like Apple 2 card. Classic Amiga running virtually while the NEW Amiga runs PA-RISC HP CPU with 3d supporting highend graphics. Or to produce such a card for PC. The thieves spent money for leisure and came up with "300" scandal which was labelled 600.
for my confirmation i got a amiga 500 AND a foking monitor! and my sisters friend got me a whole box of floppies full of pirate games! one of the best days in my life!
Too bad my emulator does not allow me to use all these futuristic art capabilities
These days, this PC pales in comparison with my Lenovo PC and Adobe Premiere Elements 2021!!
it's not a PC, never was. It was a 68000 based home computer. PC was x86 based and over priced and under designed (at the time)
cold and computery
showing a500 and kinda tell a2000 xD thats reason not say price. if i would know these when i have first amiga(still have)
they sold me a500 for workbemch and games nothing talked replacing studio equipments lol
Commodore made a MASSIVE mistake not having Composite OUT right on the A500. They had a Black and white one...and required the RF modulator wich had disgusting output compared to the previous A1000. But even later on the A600 when Sony Had invented Trinitron or someking of almost S-Video quality Composite OUT...Commodore never adapted it. So composite on an A600 although way better than an A500 still looked subpar. It wasn't until the CD32 that S-Video was added and looked superb. However if you ahd a SuperGen SX which had S-Video OUT you were good. But those were expensive as hell when released.
Hi Eijent Wun, very fascinating background info, thank you for sharing that. Good observation! ~ Charles, CHAP
Every Amiga has a RGB Port. This is the only way to get an incredible sharp picture. You need this for a Genlock. With composite the edges would be flickering. You can use a simple RGB to Scart cable for Best picture quality on your TV.
If you wanted a composite OUT you can get it for few bucks extra on a A520 RF modulator. There you have AUDIO IN, RF OUT and composite VIDEO OUT jacks
@@MrTatica1973 You don't get the point: Should anyone have to shell out more money for a Sega Genesis/Nintendo to add Composite that should already be on there? also it prevents software developers from Supporting something the Amiga doesn't have.
@@mantrahus Unrelated to a Genlock... it is utterly ridiculous for an NTSC Computer made for Games to not have COMPOSITE out from the get go.
Quick get me Steven Spielberg on the phone, I’ve seen the future of CGI, it’s called an Amiga 😂
Gold years but not in Poland, in 1987 in poland we had russian communism (poverty and pain).
dj, hope it is much much better now. ~
?? I recall it could have 32 colors onscreen at once.. from a palette of 4096. Not 4096 on at once.
Static pictures using HAM can display UP TO 4096 colors, no animation. I mean you could animate in HAM, but it may not look good do to HAM fringing effect.
You can update palette registers in horizontal blanks, so 32 colors per line, not screen. Even less capable Atari ST can show all its 512 colors, at once on the screen.
Well I'm just amazed that i could remember those specs after 30 plus years since i sold my Amiga. 😆
You could also display 64 colours in extra half bright mode which gave you a second palette of 32 colours half as bright as the first 32 colour palette hence the name EHB
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold-And-Modify#Advanced_Graphics_Architecture_HAM_mode_(HAM8) Then in 1992..... even more.
1980's bad computer graphics tackiness overload.
What a silly comment.
Il mio primo computer, doppio lettore ed il mitico cloanto c1 per editor testo.
what a shame such a great company had to go bankrupt! lol if i had to be a brand idolizing fanboy! Commodore would be it for me!
Very good friends 🇷🇺
Better times 💖 not like this awful XXIst century.